assassination

[thorny pond]

https://tenor.com/view/wayne-letterkenny-provoke-katys-big-tarts-mad-gif-26566969

[dim yacht]

i will run this build when servers come up

[gilded oasis]

just stack mastery nothing could go wrong

[slim hamlet]

Ill give it a go on ST too

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[slim hamlet]

teroos lfr

[dim yacht]

i also fixed the base rogue tree

[thorny pond]

it's nsfw

[balmy condor]

if we had a magic number where we stopped getting X stat, we would say so

because that's much easier

[oblique tangle]

Sure it is. I don't want to be going over hit cap or anything

[spice spire]

I was tanking Terros lfr on my rat dk.
And had 3 stacks of determination on Terros

[slim hamlet]

I like going the 4% vers just to waste 2 point under it

[balmy condor]

aight idk if you're a troll or actually the densest person I've ever met my blood pressure is rising im gonna go

[slim hamlet]

But that seems kinda sick too tbh

how is that even 31 points

[dim yacht]

yeah but what points even give damage at this point

except tight spender

[gilded oasis]

they unironically enjoy exsang so theres that as a clue

[frigid pilot]

I exsang after deathmark to establish dominance

I AM THE ROTATION

[dim yacht]

infact...

[thorny pond]

later @frigid pilot "Why is my parse gray?? !logs"

[slim hamlet]

how is this actually 31

[dim yacht]

fixed it

[frigid pilot]

True

[frigid pilot]

True and real

[slate scarab]

I wish the sim had a sliding scale for some of the talents so you could factor in your own ability some. Like I am an average (or below) rogue, so sometimes the passive ability that is always up is better than the active abilities, even though the actives sim higher.

[dim yacht]

alacrity wont do anything anyway

[oblique tangle]

love u

[dim yacht]

youll never get more than one stack lmao

[slim hamlet]

2 energy a second

[thorny pond]

just take 10% off the top

[slow marsh]

good news.....we're all going dtb now so you're good

[thorny pond]

if you really suck, take more

[slate scarab]

That's not a bad idea

[frigid pilot]

Dtb= down to bang

[thorny pond]

I just multiply mine by 1.25 because I am awesome

[oblique tangle]

dtb = Don't touch boobies (confirmed all rogue mains are virgins)

[dim yacht]

@slim hamlet remind me to link you logs of me using this build

[thorny pond]

don''t project on me bro

[gilded oasis]

touched my own

[slim hamlet]

loggin lfr

hells yea

[dim yacht]

ill be #1 sin rogue logs in the world for this build

[slim hamlet]

u will be #1 sin rogue logs in the world.

[dim yacht]

true, people sleeping on this build

[slim hamlet]

That is THE build

And Whispyr call himself theorycrafter

smh

[dim yacht]

how much % of my damage do you think will be auto attacks

[slim hamlet]

70%

[frigid pilot]

Had a dh in my guild run momentum on sludgefist prog cus he wanted to be the first one

[slim hamlet]

minimum

[frigid pilot]

He broke the chain infinite times

[dim yacht]

i will make sure to run instant poison

[slim hamlet]

if we could get rid of CTTC u would prob use eveery finisher on SnD

[royal lantern]

34?

[frigid pilot]

Room temp iq dhs man

[oblique tangle]

Oh bro what

[dim yacht]

do you think snd will even have 100% uptime

[oblique tangle]

I simmed some gem changes and why the shit are some haste gems simming higher for me rn I'mgonna throw up

yuck

[slim hamlet]

yeah maybe

idk

do u prior envenom for buff and cttc or rupture

[slow marsh]

cuz exsang likes haste more

[slim hamlet]

hmm

[dim yacht]

unironically, with this build you would get more damage using 2cp envenoms to extend snd?

[frigid pilot]

Yo real question is it always worth to do the multiple garrote with imp garrote buff on?

[slim hamlet]

no idea

[slow marsh]

yes

[dim yacht]

i genuinely think you might

[slim hamlet]

we gotta make whispyr optimize it

[frigid pilot]

Like how is that better than a litigate

[dim yacht]

whispyr pls help

[frigid pilot]

Mutilate

[slow marsh]

you gar, x, gar to get max duration imp garrote

[split grail]

So exsang after using deathmark to refresh bleeds I assume, but for the second time do I wait for it to line up again or just use it withing DM?

[slim hamlet]

He already gave me attention for one minminning build a few weeks ago

I think he is done

[slow marsh]

no

[frigid pilot]

I know how it works but mathematically is mutilate that dogshit that extending garrote by 6 sec empowered is more worth?

[slow marsh]

exsang then dm after

[frigid pilot]

Omegalul

[slow marsh]

yes

[thorn lynx]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[slow marsh]

esp with tier extending imp gar by 6 secs is very much worth

[split grail]

Thanks, but what about second usage. Wait for DM or jsut use on cd?

[dim yacht]

the funny part about this build is deadly poison would be better than amp by far

[slim hamlet]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/na-maintenance-extended-to-4-00-pm-pst-for-patch-10-0-5-331140

We knew this would happen didnt we

[oblique tangle]

bruh pls blizzard

[balmy condor]

in single target only with exsang

[slow marsh]

sync unless you'll miss a cast

[slim hamlet]

yup

[oblique tangle]

I am going to be done working from home before you even bring ths ervers back up

[split grail]

Thanks agai

[frigid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[slow marsh]

as in with exsang talented or with it up? APL currently does vanish gar finish gar even with exsang on cd

[balmy condor]

talented

now that we hold exsang for 4 min

instead of 45 seconds

[slim hamlet]

45 sec exsang

[balmy condor]

might want to just single gar every other

but frankly I have like 75 things I would rather do before that

[dim yacht]

name all 75

[balmy condor]

I don't want to name 75 people's mothers

[thorny pond]

1-74: Tell discord to get bent
75: Masturbate on your mom

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

I started this sim 48 minutes ago

it's not finishing in time

unlucky

[gilded oasis]

is it my sim? finally

[earnest imp]

If in the next patch you play without exsangunate, how do you play with the remaining pts?

[balmy condor]

improved poison, just like you would this patch

crazy how that works when nothing about the build changes right

[royal wraith]

kek

[frigid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-jackson-tick-tock-mother-gif-25353417

[earnest imp]

Yeah, i was playing the Venom rush route atm

[frigid pilot]

[lethal heart]

[balmy condor]

nah

[frigid pilot]

[balmy condor]

it's not gonna make it

4% progress in 3 minutes

doomed

[thorny pond]

what is your ip address and mother's maiden name if we're just sharing all this info

[frigid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/obiwan-star-wars-obi-wan-gif-10973435

[gilded oasis]

it's so good of a build the sims can't handle it

[distant mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-cartoon-tom-chasing-tom-and-jerry-gif-14995944

sorry in advance

[frigid pilot]

421 puzzle i KNOW it

[vestal cliff]

Hey whispr do u play sub or assa in dungeons and whats your highest key this season?

[balmy condor]

outlaw, +38

[gilded oasis]

he actually loves outlaw

[balmy condor]

I'm actually world rank -1

[vestal cliff]

lol

Nice

[balmy condor]

raider.io leaderboard doesn't go that high

[vestal cliff]

XD

[vital haven]

god damn you baited me

[frigid pilot]

rank 1 at suckin D

[vital haven]

thought servers were up

[vestal cliff]

How high can mythic keys go?

[unkempt burrow]

YOU THOUGHT

[balmy condor]

as high as you can time

[frigid pilot]

as high as your dreams

[balmy condor]

as long as you keep timing

it keeps going

[unkempt burrow]

How sweaty can one get

[vital haven]

tgp had a limit of +31

[vestal cliff]

So in theory you could do a +50

[zinc frost]

Painsmith Whispyr outlaw arc

[vital haven]

dont know if its the same on live though

[balmy condor]

if you timed a 49 and got a +50, sure

[unkempt burrow]

+47

3 chest ez

[frigid pilot]

bricked 27 is the best rn

[vestal cliff]

What is the highest key ever cleared

[vital haven]

35 i think

[vestal cliff]

Thats some serious sweat haha

[vital haven]

didnt play on legion but 35 JY was the highest on sl s4

[brazen zodiac]

i wouldnt say sweat

gaming

[vestal cliff]

Epic gaming

[frigid pilot]

china was dominating keys in bfa

first +30

[brazen zodiac]

lets go get a 49 together,

[thorny pond]

add 20 to that inmem

[brazen zodiac]

[balmy condor]

rizzing is my thing bro

[thorny pond]

Among other things

[balmy condor]

you gotta slow your roll a little

[frigid pilot]

i think they fucked up the patch

[balmy condor]

take it nice and smooth

watch

[frigid pilot]

cus trading post

inb4 3 hour extension

[balmy condor]

@brazen zodiac le sex fuck?

[frigid pilot]

LOL its extended

1 more hr

[thorny pond]

as a married man, nothing is slow or smooth

[balmy condor]

hol up

[thorny pond]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-hold-up-whoa-gif-20256148

[brazen zodiac]

How could you have sex at a time like this?

[balmy condor]

ruh oh raggy

[brazen zodiac]

The primal incarnates have just been released.

[balmy condor]

real

[brazen zodiac]

Azeroth is in danger

and you want to FUCK?

[frigid pilot]

whispyr made the patch 1 hour late so he can finish his sim

[brazen zodiac]

what the FUCK?

[frigid pilot]

no 🧢

he got connects up top in ABK

[brazen zodiac]

im gonna say it

[balmy condor]

we must procreate immediately in order to build our armies god bless amen

[brazen zodiac]

raz did nothing wrong

[royal lantern]

@slim hamlet our mage left guild cus we progress spoder instead of doing heroic for a 3rd vault slot

[balmy condor]

chad

[brazen zodiac]

hey whisp do u like the lore story so far? :o

[balmy condor]

it's okay, yeh

[brazen zodiac]

i remmeber u being vocal about disliking it a lot in SoD haha

after playing wrath classic i can see how much of the theme they kinda took from it and incorporated it into SL lol

[balmy condor]

sod was a patch I'd rather forget tbh

[frigid pilot]

dont u dare talk badly about mommy sylvanas

[balmy condor]

objectively a bad patch

[brazen zodiac]

lmao

[royal lantern]

HOLD DPS

HOLD DPS

[brazen zodiac]

I DO NOT WANT TO HOLD DPS,

[wide hawk]

ewww

[frigid pilot]

didnt raid that tier

[brazen zodiac]

I WANT TO DOOO DPS.

[balmy condor]

raid entrance was in fucking nowhere land, korthia was a boring wasteland, all the lore was just shoe-horned in

[frigid pilot]

and the 1 moment i thought about coming back

dom sockets made me lose interest

the whole design of shadowlands was giga aids

mEaNiNgFuL cHoIcEs

[brazen zodiac]

it felt bad joining SoD a month late

i just always felt +1 month behind everyone else

[royal lantern]

the concept of afterlife realms is good, but they went somewhat nowhere with it and instantly just went back to "and this will end azeorth and you must stop it by fighting the big bad" wich felt lame af

[flint tusk]

boy i love NA being beta testers for EU.
we'll get a nice quick 3 hour maintenance

[oak sky]

Not to mention shards

[balmy condor]

yep

[subtle tundra]

hi whispar

[brazen zodiac]

varas!

[balmy condor]

afterlands story was done after leveling story

big dumb

[brazen zodiac]

big dumb

[frigid pilot]

i liked legion story

end of wod was kinda cool

[slow marsh]

I felt like the CN and anima stuff was cool

then it all went dumpster after sod

[wide hawk]

I was just thinking that same, feels good going to bed knowing all the patch issues will be fixed by the time we wake up.

[slow marsh]

it was meaningless

[brazen zodiac]

it felt weird to jump from tht straight into all jailer for 2 patches

[fading wigeon]

I loved mythic soulrender and guardian as assasination

[royal lantern]

covenants made my best friend quit the game cus of how bad they where for healer priest

you want to play holy? kyrian

you want to play disc? doesnt even work unless you are venthyr, but venthyr ability sucks HARD for holy and for disc m+, in m+ they want kyrian aswell

chose 1, be good with holy and be able to do m+, or be able to play disc priest and suck at m+ and have a ussules covenant ability for holy

🙂

[fading wigeon]

Those two fights were fun

[frigid pilot]

i was playing shadow in nathria

then every1 switched to fae for raid

and im venthyr for pvp

made me roll mage cus they used fae for both

was such a dogshit system

[brazen zodiac]

rip

[frigid pilot]

ion should be ashamed about being so stubborn

[brazen zodiac]

i forgot what was the wait period for swapping covs?

2 weeks?

[frigid pilot]

ye

[oak sky]

2w

[balmy condor]

2 weeks yeh

[brazen zodiac]

[frigid pilot]

and u had to fill a stupid ass bar

[balmy condor]

conduit energy bro

[oak sky]

Covenants were very cool with swapping enabled

[brazen zodiac]

i dont think i ever actually swapped until the patch that let u swap frequently

yeahhh

[frigid pilot]

i didnt care for conduit energy cus i didnt change them too often

[balmy condor]

imagine being a paladin that plays all 3 specs

[frigid pilot]

[oak sky]

Mostly bad for specs

[brazen zodiac]

[zinc frost]

You are all giving me ptsd - let’s forget covenant changing, conduit. Massive L

[frigid pilot]

corruption before the vendor came out?

[balmy condor]

"hey we need a healer for this m+"

sorry no conduit energy

[dim yacht]

remember when as soon as covenants were even announced everyone said itd be awful and freely swapping should be a thing

[frigid pilot]

i was using twilight devastation 1 as a fire mage

[dim yacht]

and blizzard told us itd be fine and balanced

[wide hawk]

I like how you still get notified what your soulbind is if you change your spec in dragonflight

[frigid pilot]

legion legendaries if u got unlucky?

i got fire bracers end of legion

🙂

[brazen zodiac]

it shocks me that even with backlash they had regarding the 2 week swap they waited like what, korthia to be allowed to let u swap? or was it ZM

[royal lantern]

btw, why do we still have the revive effect from shadowlands

like, when you release, its still the venthyr effect for me

[balmy condor]

game is super jank

[royal lantern]

brb swapping NF then

[frigid pilot]

i cant change a talent without my UI going to shit

[dim yacht]

zm

[royal lantern]

the best rez effect

better then a red swirliy

[frigid pilot]

wow made me want to be a god damn programmer

i work in fucking finance

blizz incompetence makes me wish i went into CS

[gilded oasis]

problem is un-spaghetti coding it is a lot more work than people realize

[frigid pilot]

league still uses that dog client to this day

[brazen zodiac]

do u guys think theyll ever let you "break down" ur spark gear to get ur spark back or they just gonna keep throwing them out like candy

[storm onyx]

Over the years I lost belief about some stuff being mistakes or miscalculations and think that they just want it to be like that. I cant come up with an understanding to some stuff they let it be

[frigid pilot]

same client that randomly writes 2 gigabyte file on ur SSD and erases it after each game

[gilded oasis]

idk but I hope I get to mail primal chaos soon

[eager sorrel]

Still can't get over their post that was basically 'we were right to do this all along'

[dim yacht]

i remember when i suggested on reddit we should be able to break down our crafted legendaries in shadowlands to get the mats back and recraft. i got mass downvoted and everyone told me i was dumb

[gilded oasis]

sounds like reddit

[storm onyx]

They just wnted the Role play part of "Commitment' there in the story line. so we got that blocks

[frigid pilot]

is there any way to make livelogging less demanding

[dim yacht]

yes

get a better computer

[frigid pilot]

i got a 208pTI i9900k and it makes me have 50 fps in raid

2080TI*

graphics on low

[wide hawk]

Huh, never noticed it affecting my fps

[dim yacht]

maybe clear your log file

[gilded oasis]

isnt wow more cpu intensive

[dim yacht]

thats the only thing i can think of

[brazen zodiac]

weird side of it the most annoying aspect was not being able to farm transmogs

[dim yacht]

kind of like group loot now

god forbid you wanna get some tmog from lfr

[brazen zodiac]

like im venthyr but i really like the night fae stuff why i gott await 2 weeks to look like a fairy >.>

and then not being able to wear it when you swapped back

update ur game gamers!!

[oblique tangle]

Y'all. My highest simming gems are fucking crit+haste and mast+haste and at just 2 dps less, it's haste+crit and haste+mast

I guess haste #1 stat for ass this patch c:

[vale shore]

if it means I get to push more buttons I am all for it

[storm onyx]

That with Box?

[brazen zodiac]

huh

[shut owl]

haste isn't a dead stat when you've got enough of the other stuff

[balmy condor]

you made a post on reddit? huge mistake

[oblique tangle]

Honestly it makes sense with the gear I have.

I'm on 32% crit 40% mastery and 8% haste so it checks out pretty well

[balmy condor]

I continue to hate reading things you type

[strange python]

mine are showing the same but i am also about 40 and 40 with crit mastery

[oblique tangle]

Thank you I try to both have a conversation and also infuriate people at the same time

[oblique tangle]

That's how you know I'm a successful troll btw 🙃

[limber lion]

Fun trivia for ya'll:

[oblique tangle]

tee hee

[limber lion]

Did you know that pressing Shiv on Council is a dps loss?

[oblique tangle]

Not any more

[limber lion]

[frigid pilot]

what bind do u have for CT @limber lion

[brazen zodiac]

oh thank god

[limber lion]

Yeah maybe the devs knew about it all along, Shiv needed some love on 4t particularly

[limber lion]

Shift + 2

[brazen zodiac]

cause i be forgetting to press it ngl

on specifically PC

[boreal cloud]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[oblique tangle]

Ugh I don't want to have to buy t3 crit haste and haste crit gems it's not even gonna be worth the .5% dps increase

[gilded oasis]

gonna be boned when you need an update

[limber lion]

I have to follow it up with some bad news

[brazen zodiac]

oh no.

[limber lion]

You're gonna be playing AP on Council starting now

[brazen zodiac]

give it to me straight doc

[limber lion]

So you're gonna have to spam that shit as much as possible

[brazen zodiac]

oh holy mother of the primal incarnates

[limber lion]

Give Shiv the love it deserves

[vale shore]

both charges!

[brazen zodiac]

raz save me now

[gilded oasis]

wait were supposed to use shiv?

[runic hinge]

We taking cold blood and macroing it to shiv or what

[frigid pilot]

wtf is apo

ap*

ive been an outlaw boy

[vale shore]

arterial precision

[brazen zodiac]

shivs cool

[vale shore]

shiv spreads to 4 more targets and increases bleed damage by 20%

[brazen zodiac]

i like soothing shit thats based

[frigid pilot]

wasnt that our 4pc in sepulcher

or some shit

[strange python]

love how kb just isnt taken now T_T

[frigid pilot]

kb enjoyers in shambles

down to bang gang

[brazen zodiac]

i liked kingsbane

feelsnotsokingsbane sigh

[strange python]

better like dtb now

[sick aspen]

just move KB to choice node with sbs, that'll fix it right Whipyr? 😛

[brazen zodiac]

uh

[next edge]

https://i.gyazo.com/46be1a8a8997b7993d63213982d4b4d9.png

[limber lion]

How about we put every single button we have as one large choice node

[brazen zodiac]

LOL

[sick aspen]

lol sorry Cev, was a joke just for whispyr, wasn't serious

[next edge]

Cev is grieving the death of KB

leave him alone

[strange python]

ALL HAIL D T B

[terse orchid]

Cries in 6 fps during lust when group is larger than 2/2/6

[dense hamlet]

would anyone perhaps have a gain chart for blessing of autumn

[strange python]

WHERE ARE THE MOUNTAINS IN THE 30 FPS?!?!

[vale shore]

they had to cut them, they only had half the frames for the image!

the train is definitely running on that track smoother though

[terse orchid]

There was only room for 30 fjords, not 60 🤷‍♂️

[strange python]

this is why you guys get the big bucks. you so smart

[gusty mirage]

we get paid?

@stuck knoll where's my money?

[stuck knoll]

why of all people

would they leave me in charge of the money

[balmy condor]

you guys are getting paid?

[strange python]

[silver forum]

sooo. nothing new with sin?

same old same old?

[terse orchid]

Gotta afford my heroic boost somehow

[strange python]

DTB is overlord now thats it

[frigid pilot]

yo is it normal to get giga declined from keys on an alt cus ur 500 io on it

when ur main is 2500?

[balmy condor]

yes

[frigid pilot]

like holy fuck im applying to 15s not 20s

and im 390 or some shit

[strange python]

they dont even want my main who is 2800 io in keys sometimes

[silver forum]

what do you mean?

[frigid pilot]

i dont wanna do the dumbass shit like +10, then +11 then +12

cus everything below 16 is a wasteland

[strange python]

pugs are elitist its wack

[frigid pilot]

had a priest brick my 15 nok yesterday couldnt heal the storm boss

insta wipe

[fringe field]

Everything above 16 feels like a wasteland too

[silver forum]

guys, its what guilds are for

[terse orchid]

Sounds par for the course

[silver forum]

all the good players already have 2.6k min

[vale shore]

and they logged off until 10.1

[strange python]

i should probably get me one of those

[silver forum]

2.5k is where most of the pugs are at if they kept up

if you don't got 2.5k, i have to admit you won't be getting in anything above 18

and i have not met a sin m+ rogue in a while

[devout hornet]

Its fuckin nonsense that with all timed 19s I'm getting rejected from going into 20s lol

on that note lol

[strange python]

gotta have a timed 21 to get into pug 20s xD

[frigid pilot]

sometimes ur higher io than the guy and u still get rejected

[devout hornet]

^

[silver forum]

you need to get into those juicy 20 SBG and 20 CoS. you can get lucky occasionally and those boost your IO like crazy easy

[frigid pilot]

relax lil bro 1700 IO dh illidangodx,

[devout hornet]

must have 20 years experience straight out of highschool, a 6.75 gpa and a dick bigger than The Rock's biceps are long.

pics or no invite

[glossy knot]

Quick question for Mythic+ using the new DTB+IC build would it not be worth it to go down Flying daggers at the expense of something else?

[vale shore]

just stand closer to FOK!

[violet talon]

"Quick Clear" and "Pumpers Only" are the two red flag descriptions I never apply to. Usually means the key holder is wanting a carry lol

[strange python]

just put big vibing and its normally chill

[high mist]

it's a question of numbers - if 50 people are applying to a key, they're going to take the highest io or ilvl for the most part.

[glossy knot]

theres also an increase in damage not only range

[vale shore]

put more crit gear on and stand closer!

[frigid pilot]

omg pumpers only

[gloomy breach]

Quick doubt, how assassination will perform on raid after the 10.0.5 changes ?

[balmy condor]

it's way too conditional

[high mist]

i avoid the 'big dicks only' ones too

[frigid pilot]

the flag for every cod mountain dew guzzling mongoloid

like the dudes at the office talking bout how drunk they were friday night and blah blahb

[strange python]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-excellence-talladega-nights-interview-gif-13623108

[glossy knot]

Ok i get it I feel like packs of 5+ mobs is often the norm thats why i was wondering

[strange python]

the same

[frigid pilot]

then u got the opposite

guildees that that we have to pug 1 guy

as if hes gonna steal our chicken tendies

[gloomy breach]

Kingsbane Changes will not affect?

[frigid pilot]

kb is dead, long live dtb

[gloomy breach]

xD

[strange python]

"OUR VIABILITY IS NOT CHANGING. THESE CHANGES HAVE NOT HAD ANY MAJOR IMPACT ON OUR DAMAGE.

Again, THE DAMAGE IS THE SAME. PLEASE STOP ASKING "-Whispyr

[gloomy breach]

Oh i forget to see the pinned messages

sorry

[strange python]

nah keep asking whispyr please

[gloomy breach]

Don't think he would like

[strange python]

just make sure you give $2

If you really wanted to, you could argue sin is relatively worse post patch than before, because raid performance is always relative other specs, and many other specs got big buffs

[violet moat]

Make sin great again

[gusty mirage]

yeah but like what about the new CHANGES?

[oak sky]

next set of changes

[gusty mirage]

KEK

[strange python]

🙂

[slim hamlet]

I love how they announce it like 1 second before

[strange python]

Called it

[gusty mirage]

AM I OUT OF RAID TONIGHT BOYS?

CMON BLIZZARD

[slim hamlet]

wtf

[gusty mirage]

TRIPLE WHAMMY

[slim hamlet]

how are u not 3 slot vault

[lucid mirage]

I WANT TO PLAY WOW

[strange python]

We've lost Tuesday raid three weeks in a row

Surely it won't be the fourth

[gusty mirage]

idk who shirley is

but idk if we can blame her

[strange python]

Can I blame foreverguy?

[gusty mirage]

dw I'll entertain you guys for the next hour

probably

he broke the servers with his alchemy

[strange python]

Can I go start a fight with foreverguy?

[gusty mirage]

I would recommend against that

[strange python]

But he's so fightable

[lone mango]

Lol at this rate servers won't even be up by the time I'm off work

[gusty mirage]

just tell him outlaw is OP

[tulip tendon]

Nah prob be down til like 10pm pst

[thorn fjord]

They extended again?

[oak sky]

i like actually need

[thorn fjord]

Useless cunts

[gusty mirage]

yes

[oak sky]

to do shit before raid

mdage

[gusty mirage]

perfect

fuck it

[thorn fjord]

We moved raid to tomorrow on account of blizzard being dumb

[gusty mirage]

bring em back with EU

GLOBAL RELEASE

[strange python]

Idk why they wait to start maintenance until 7 am

They used to start at like 4

[slim hamlet]

apparently servers up

[tough gorge]

you can log in

[thorn fjord]

Smoll Indy company

[gilded oasis]

surfs up

[slim hamlet]

they did a jebait

[thorn fjord]

Oh nice

[gilded oasis]

sorta. loading slow

[lone mango]

Got 'em

[slim hamlet]

Can't wait to fall asleep to beta testers

[strange python]

Just as I was about to say outlaw is a useless pad spec and tag Guy

[thorn fjord]

Rejoice

[slim hamlet]

Do it

pussy

[proper tapir]

Hey @gusty mirage, what's the new Council build?

[slim hamlet]

wowhead

[thorn fjord]

@marble viper OL is the best spec to ever grace our class

There it’s done

[strange python]

I had this fight with him like a week ago. Jokes aside guy is actually too infuriating to argue with

Full outlaw brain rot

[royal lantern]

2day raiding mate, first say was clearing to terros and do terros, today was spoder ice fun time progress

[thorn fjord]

How did prog go @royal lantern

[slim hamlet]

werent u the one that just said u would troll by saying it was useless pad spec?

[royal lantern]

saw last phase once, biss at 45%

[strange python]

I said that to him last week

[slim hamlet]

Yea

[thorn fjord]

Oh wait I tagged him with the wrong statement

[slim hamlet]

U are further than us

how are u not full hc vault

[royal lantern]

we did not do hc this week

[balmy condor]

[tough gorge]

Replied to wrong person, messages too fast lol

[balmy condor]

yeah servers are up guys

[thorn fjord]

I only have 3 upgrades in heroic

[tough gorge]

Use AP for council whoever asked

[royal lantern]

and them the mage gquit cus of it

[slim hamlet]

Double jebait

get fuckd kid

[balmy condor]

it's not even putting me onto live servers

I log in

and it's giving me tournament realm servers

hello?

[thorn fjord]

Client side update

Did you update?

[slim hamlet]

Some chatters are saying theyre getting in after some DC's on max's stream

[gusty mirage]

you are my champion

[balmy condor]

of course

[thorn fjord]

Hmm

All going according to blizzards plan I guess

[subtle tundra]

omg get a life

just wait for servers

go read

sorry

that was rude

[slim hamlet]

wrong channel for that

dumbass

U know we wont do that

[strange python]

what did he say?

[subtle tundra]

😡

🤏🏻

[slim hamlet]

He told us to read

xd

[subtle tundra]

i need to sleep

[strange python]

[teal bloom]

[oblique tangle]

if I pray real hard can I play WoW before Friday?

[thorn fjord]

The fish speaks!!

[oblique tangle]

Hope we get a day of compensation c:

[fallen moon]

so whats the ST build now

[brazen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[oblique tangle]

1 5 1 1 3 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2

[slim hamlet]

I'm so happy we have forced beta testers with NA

[royal lantern]

34

[thorn fjord]

Yeah @gusty mirage what’s the ST build now?

[slim hamlet]

Can't imagine having to deal with some of the shit

[fallen moon]

not in robot

[slim hamlet]

@gusty mirage Will no capstone build be useful this patch?

[thorn fjord]

Just put the baby to sleep@so servers came up just in time

[oblique tangle]

Not my fault you put your skills on different buttons

[gusty mirage]

fuck you guys

can't bring me down

421 tier pants

[marble hemlock]

nice trinket

[balmy condor]

[thorn fjord]

That trinket thooo @gusty mirage

[copper hazel]

just means you aint getting a mirror drop now @gusty mirage unluck

[gusty mirage]

what about it

I have a whispering icon + 415 puzzle box

[oblique tangle]

Hey while you're here can you sim my gems

[thorn fjord]

Sadge

[slim hamlet]

idk those shoulders looking juice

[thorn fjord]

Glad you didn’t get sockets though my dude

Grats

[slim hamlet]

wtf does my man mean yikes

[violet jackal]

anyone else poisons broken?

[royal lantern]

you did it

you killed the sim bot

you reached the TC endgame

[slim hamlet]

Now just wait for next patch

[balmy condor]

I cant re-sim the spreadsheet bro

can't log in

can't sim

it's so doomed

[peak basin]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[thorn fjord]

Just uninstall

[royal lantern]

you have around 14hours until i woke up, went to work, went home and took a shower whisp, dont worry

[slim hamlet]

I heard reinstalling fixes it

[fallen moon]

repair game

[flint tusk]

Just sim it bro.

[winter raft]

cant even open da vault

[flint tusk]

Not hard. Just do the thing.

[winter raft]

nvm i bitched about it and now i can

[tardy spade]

Whats the new ST build looking like in 10.5?

[oblique tangle]

Tough decision.

What do you guys think?

[flint tusk]

Identical to the old dtb bleed build pretty much.

[flint tusk]

Token obvs

[slim hamlet]

i think an uninstall here is my usual go to

[tardy spade]

@flint tusk is there a link to that? I am dumb sorry

[oblique tangle]

Got me a puzzle box already even though I have to upgrade it

and a CCT

hmmm

guess I should go sim and see

[peak basin]

Sim says it doesnt work for me b/c of new talents on raidbots.

[distant mesa]

so I have a grieftorch and a puzzlebox WI trinket probably?

[slim hamlet]

all these people getting 421 cos ring

and not even taking that as a decision??

I would click it so fast

[distant mesa]

its a decision yes, but I can't decide

[keen spruce]

finally

[limpid quest]

I clicked it here on discord lol

[slim hamlet]

u never seeing the ring again

u seeing the trinket each week

I saw that

[lyric cave]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[thorn crater]

Amp poison not even showing up to be able to apply it

[slim hamlet]

U cant hide

[vale shore]

came here to say this

mine are

[thorn crater]

So thats fun

[flint tusk]

I’ll try find it i’m on mobile

[thorn crater]

Deadly doesnt even show up LOL

[slim hamlet]

Another day to be happy about being EU

[brazen zodiac]

@balmy condor are u able to log into area52?

[dusty zenith]

so we have to use exsanguinate with the new dtb build?

[limpid quest]

not yet

[thorn fjord]

fuck my life man

[limpid quest]

area 52 still down

[balmy condor]

nop

[balmy condor]

"have to" is a very relative statement

[thorn fjord]

fucking hot dog water

[slim hamlet]

if u dont take bis talents u insta die

I heard

[tall atlas]

Omg whys

[tardy spade]

Belt has socket and leech

[tall atlas]

Stop being a poo

[winter hawk]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[tall atlas]

You took the SC before the animation stopped

The excitement was real

[fallen moon]

anyone elses hotbars decide to not exist

[tall atlas]

Id take the belt

[flint tusk]

BMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINJSCcgElEAAAAAAAJAkkAAAAAAAQDJOQJJkkkkWKJiEkIRiFE

[tall atlas]

100% if socket and leach

[slow marsh]

hey guys, should i sim my vault options or just post here and let you decide?

[distant mesa]

which build is that?

[limpid ermine]

sims are down for a couple of hours

[slim hamlet]

I usually just use this https://www.random.org/

[flint tusk]

If you post it. Just take token.

[flint tusk]

The new dtb bleed spec. Whispyr put on wowhead.
But he can’t 100% confirm it on live as being best as he broke raidbot

[sick aspen]

@balmy condor is it 2/2 Imp Poison as the "off choice" over exang? or is there a better option?

[vale shore]

I fixed poisons, just respec and spec back. Wait, nevermind, they does not give deadly poison back

[strange python]

so if i only have 1 tier piece should i take diurna ring or a hand tier?

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[slim hamlet]

hand

Diurna ring aint the crisp ring

[tall atlas]

Is the faq updated

[balmy condor]

only wowhead atm

[strange python]

thought seal of diurna was?

[slim hamlet]

yea

[strange python]

yeah that is the ring i got xD

[spice spire]

Seal of diurna isn’t diurna ring

[slim hamlet]

but when u say diurna ring i expect u to mean the ring from diurna

[spice spire]

That’s off of eggnog

[strange python]

oh my bad eranog ring xD

[slim hamlet]

Just because

[flint tusk]

Seal of diurna is THE ring

[dusty zenith]

does anyone have a DTB build that does not have Sanguinate?

[vale shore]

ok spec into another spec and then back to assassin to get your poisons back

[peak basin]

Can I gnome racial to remove root from Storm-Eater's Boon?

[strange python]

so get eranog ring?

[dusty zenith]

none of the sheets have it

[slim hamlet]

idk now that catalyst is a thing i go eggnog ring

[strange python]

thats what i was thinking

[dusty zenith]

ty

[flint tusk]

No shrouded shuf

[keen spruce]

assuming that 3/3 zoldyk is better than other options

[balmy condor]

sheet will update later today

[tall atlas]

Wtf were you doing during maintenance

[distant mesa]

isn't the Exsange build better?

[tall atlas]

Chop chop slacker

[spice spire]

Living his life man

[keen spruce]

he literally asked

for a non-exang build

jfc

[spice spire]

Leave him alone

[tall atlas]

You leave him alone!

[spice isle]

is this good for sin?

[dusky wing]

I think it really depends to be honest.

[tall atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/hitmans-bodyguard-samuel-l-jackson-time-tick-tock-mother-fucker-gif-16837428

@balmy condor

[wide ridge]

i thought dashing would keep the 15% crit but just go down to 2/2 points

[flint tusk]

It’s meh

[spice spire]

Universally it’s just better, but if people can’t handle Exsang spoons, then yeah just execute

[keen spruce]

what do we do abotu the class tree now though

[wide ridge]

shouldnt beat CoS ring + eranogg ring

[tough gorge]

can't untalent in unbreakable stride lol

[keen spruce]

i'm locked from the build i want becasue of required poins in the middle of the tree

[kind summit]

SAME

[balmy condor]

that's fine, we never want to untalent it

[spice isle]

thanks

[spice isle]

gotcha

[flint tusk]

Unbreakingable stride is like the biggest thing i’m looking forward to.

Wow sin is so cool. 😂

[dusty zenith]

no shadowstep? wtf

[wide ridge]

-30% on slows seems kinda meh?

[keen spruce]

you get it in the class tree

[dusty zenith]

oh

[wide ridge]

and it's not even slow effectiveness, just duration

[flint tusk]

I mean missing bleed talents exsang or not is just bad with 4 set

[keen spruce]

so class tree doesn't change then?. i was hoping for an extra point. but i guess we're kinda locked in the middle of the tree anyways

[silver forum]

k i'm loaded in. why do i have one extra point for sin talent

[violet jackal]

relogging fixed

[flint tusk]

So double step
Single step

[keen spruce]

dashing scoundrel is 2/2 now not 3/3

[lusty nacelle]

Dashing scoundrel is only one talent now

er, two

[brazen zodiac]

@balmy condor do u use elvui by chance

[vale shore]

also respeccing and then back

[silver forum]

so what do we pick in place of it

[kind summit]

Quick question : The extra talent point we gained from SIN going down DTB... would you suggest more Execute phase damage or shrouded suff??

[balmy condor]

why would we get an extra point, we already pathed through everything to begin with

[balmy condor]

we take both

[coarse bear]

heroic grieftorch or mythic icon better?

[kind summit]

i have 2/3 execute

[keen spruce]

i mean by dropping unbreakable, didn't seem super pog in raid. but still need middle points

[kind summit]

yea.. ok that's what mine looks like now

[keen spruce]

i just wanted my extra lethality point

[spice isle]

now another question... should I take this BiS leech wrist and say goodbye to engi brez???

[coarse bear]

does grieftorch still do more damage than the sim?

[upbeat needle]

where can I find the new build for Sin

[balmy condor]

be me
update wowhead guide days in advance
GUIS WHERE NEW BUILD???????????????????????

[brazen zodiac]

lol

[upbeat needle]

AY LISTEN DAWG

I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS IN THE GUIDE OK MAN

AAAAAA

[tardy spade]

I dont even know where that is :D

[flint tusk]

But expect it to change.
Whispyr is going to spend the next 9 hours simming like a mad man and will find a spec with more than a margin improvement.
Also will come attached with a 5000 word essay on why 50dps is worth it. Etc

[balmy condor]

if only

[frigid pilot]

OMG

[balmy condor]

there was like

[frigid pilot]

I SHOULDA DONE 8 20S

[balmy condor]

some message

[frigid pilot]

I SHOULD HAVE

[balmy condor]

that told you

[frigid pilot]

FML

FMLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[keen spruce]

that's very ablist of you assuming I can read

[thorn fjord]

but if you did the 8 20's it wouldnt have been there

[placid cipher]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[silver forum]

so you put the extra point in SS and not in Zoldycks

why?

[lean fossil]

for you all to hate on 😄

[distant mesa]

is that import a troll.. no Shiv's....

[balmy condor]

more damage

[silver forum]

is it gain in single target?

[distant mesa]

no more Shiv in bleed DTB?

[keen spruce]

raidbots appears to be unhappy

[balmy condor]

no, I'm actually recommending a bad talent build on purpose just to make you confused

[keen spruce]

with simc exports atm

[lusty surge]

We trained him wrong as a joke

[sick aspen]

same here

[silver forum]

sorry SS sounds weak and zoldyck sounds a little powerful

[keen spruce]

they don't speak sarcasm

[balmy condor]

fkin ridiculous

[flint tusk]

All i will say. Imagine having a kingsbane role in 10.0.5 🎣

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

"why this talent"
cause it's better
"so it's better?"
the fuck you think

[fallen moon]

roast him

[keen spruce]

okay but what about in single target though? @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

[silver forum]

okay okay i get it

[balmy condor]

gotta ask me 15 times

[silver forum]

geebus

[thorn fjord]

"the fuck you think" made me ugly laugh

[keen spruce]

dw you'll be memeing people too soon

[broken ibex]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[silver forum]

who knew two extra CP and 20% outdid execution damage

[balmy condor]

"hey whispyr saw you made a build, but I don't believe you"
no that's right
"okay but that's not right?"
no, that's right
"okay but is it better"
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[lean fossil]

where my shiv at tho!

[normal olive]

Whispyr can your remove exsang from the game thanks

[tall atlas]

Whys you need to help guy he’s breaking down in the outlaw disc

[frigid pilot]

@balmy condor FLAME ME

[flint tusk]

No exsang 4 lyf

[normal olive]

[balmy condor]

I literally don't care

[flint tusk]

Token bitch, now

[thorny quiver]

is this bis

[coarse bear]

does grieftorch still do more than the sim?

[normal olive]

yes

[thorny quiver]

[olive flame]

Is shrouded suff better than the execute damage? Or were people memein?

[silver forum]

^

[fallen moon]

[olive flame]

I still can't tell x)

[silver forum]

i told you i had a comon question

[teal bloom]

[vale lantern]

can anyone share the line for the cowl head piece from sim?

[silver forum]

whyspr, come here and answer this man

[fallen moon]

it was already answered though

[broken ibex]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[silver forum]

anyways, the answer is SS is better

cause i was told so

without talking about it

[olive flame]

Thanks lol

[fallen moon]

20% over all dmg is better then 45% execute dmg

[flint tusk]

Tag him. No balls

[edgy hound]

sanguinate is the worst spell in the game 🙂

[keen spruce]

raidbots actin up for anyone else?

[peak basin]

Am I the only one that thinks exsang feels juicy?

[wide ridge]

yeah says it's not updated

[keen spruce]

i think it's just for assas i got guildies havin no sisues

[balmy condor]

fuck off

[silver forum]

anyways, i just got a heroic grieftorch in my vault

[balmy condor]

jesus christ

[formal cliff]

Someone make Whisp go to sleep

[silver forum]

also a 421 hunger and a mythic incarnaate

[formal cliff]

He's going crazy today lmao

[thorn fjord]

Nah today is a shit day

[silver forum]

whysper do you feel okay buddy?

[thorn fjord]

leave him alone

[balmy condor]

122000 people in this discord and I'm convinced 0 people are literate

literally none of you

[white orchid]

When I sim is there somehting I need to change bc it’s still simming as KB in its old spot

[indigo pollen]

is rogue one of the classes?

[balmy condor]

I make a pin, no one reads it

I update a guide

[formal cliff]

He really should be alone, not here

[balmy condor]

no one reads it

[formal cliff]

[balmy condor]

I give an answer

[slim hamlet]

sorry cant read that word

[balmy condor]

no one reads it

[unreal kayak]

when do new talent become available on raidbots ?

[balmy condor]

what the fuck is wrong with you people

[fallen moon]

a lot

[normal olive]

everything

[flint tusk]

U people

[silver forum]

lol

whysper is having some issues with peoples

[balmy condor]

you're right

I am

[flint tusk]

Honestly, i do feel bad

[tall atlas]

Guy got so mad in the OL channel he put slow mode on

[thorny quiver]

Internal Bleeding is better than Shrouded Suffocation and Zoly

[balmy condor]

because I spend literally most of my life

making resources

and info

for people to ignore it

[flint tusk]

Some people are turbo thick skulled it’s not funny. I couldn’t do what he does.

[balmy condor]

that's frustrating

[slim hamlet]

Rename the channel again Whispyr

[balmy condor]

I literally am spoon-feeding content to the community

and people will show up

and fucking ask the same dumbass questions

that are answered in 35 places

[tall atlas]

It’s a vocal minority dw your work is appreciated

[glossy knot]

Well on the cleave training dummy I don't really see a difference using AP+IC VS DTB+IC but single was noticably better using DTB+IC so i guess only 1 spec for mythic left 🙂

[tall atlas]

They are not real rogues just part timers

[silver forum]

you should put it in the faq or something to check the pins in this channel. its probably people not reading the pin

[balmy condor]

please stop talking oh my god if I could choke you through my screen right now

[slim hamlet]

[keen spruce]

[night delta]

I mean

[normal olive]

[teal bloom]

[arctic hare]

For Assassination, could you replace exsang in the "Recommended M+ build" with the flying daggers talent?

[slow marsh]

if people don't read the pins they don't read the faqs. if they don't read the faqs they don't read the pins

[arctic hare]

or would it still not be worth it?

[gray hazel]

If you dont run exsang with the new build, i assume you take IP instead?

[keen spruce]

you can do whatever you want

[unreal kayak]

Choke me ddy

[keen spruce]

and if it's what you wanna do then it's worth

[arctic hare]

I figured, will definitely have to sim lol

[polar matrix]

just dont reply to every dumb question???? there is going to be a lot of people that randomly ask dumb questions in this thread

[polar matrix]

it doesn't mean no one looks at the FAQ or pins

[silver forum]

hmmm, i didn't notice that

sorry information overload. monkey brains fried

[nocturne sorrel]

Someone should pin it

[flint tusk]

What is dumb i use the faq like once a week atleast.
Even just to check i’m not missing something new.

[night delta]

let's pin a message telling to check pins

[royal lantern]

i cant read, what does it say

[flint tusk]

People come to the discord but don’t do that is weird when everything. Literally everything is there

[balmy condor]

have people been noticing

[topaz bluff]

Everyone all excited for new patch and I can't get past the log in rip

[balmy condor]

that I put dots

in the faq

and then delete them

to make people get an unread message

so that they read it

[hot oriole]

yeah its toxic

jkjk ❤️

[formal cliff]

idk, can't read either

[balmy condor]

I'm running out of ways

to get people

to read

[idle inlet]

noooooo my kingsbane build

[balmy condor]

I have no more options

[fallen moon]

@ all

[nocturne sorrel]

Maybe an FAQ should be made

[night delta]

people gonna mute the FAQ category pretty sure x)

[royal lantern]

Reading is for nerds anyway, i want funny Pictures explaining things

[night delta]

anything to not read the fucking updates

[balmy condor]

I just

I don't get it

[indigo pollen]

dtb really is one of the all time talents

[balmy condor]

do you need the gentle embrace of another human? Do you miss talking to people? Are you stuck at home doing nothing and just need someone to yell at you?

why is it so hard

[flint tusk]

What faq? Me no see

[balmy condor]

to just read a guide

[formal cliff]

Change "English" to 'Pins"

[royal lantern]

Whisp, think positive, there is probably a good chunk of people that join the server, check the pins/faq and then dont ask questions cus its all explained 🙂

[velvet haven]

I assume non exsang users are just using the final 3/3 in Zoldyk

[lament warren]

yes

[velvet haven]

reading still

[lament warren]

i need your gentle embrace

[fallen moon]

how'd you know

[tall atlas]

Mental break down inc

[balmy condor]

I can't man

[topaz bluff]

I dont check faq or pins and just ask me questions like a real gamer. Community interaction makes an mmo so I hear. I'm just contributing in the best way I can

[balmy condor]

I'm incapable

[unreal kayak]

is the faq even updated ?

[balmy condor]

I wake up to so many dm's every day

with the stupidest questions

and I answer them all, gladly

but like

CMON

HELP ME HELP YOU

[fallen moon]

this is the first time i've spoken in here enjoying my time so far

[tall atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/scrubs-dr-cox-elliot-doctor-nurse-gif-3381079

[thorn fjord]

No fucking wonder lmaooo

[balmy condor]

you tell me

does the changelog say it's updated

[lusty nacelle]

was the nerf to dashing scoundrel accidental? I know they dropped it to 2 points, but it only returns 1 energy on crit

[royal lantern]

its the assa channel, we swap bettwen dooming, making fun out of our dear tc guys, beeing horny and more dooming

[balmy condor]

are the talent builds new?

[last aurora]

Anyone try out the new M+ build yet? Any significant dmg changes?

[balmy condor]

did you have an unread message in the faq

[flint tusk]

Stealing loporrit quotes now are we?

[slim hamlet]

god damn its been 30 mins

[balmy condor]

it's always done that

[rancid bane]

I don't post often and I wouldn't have the gaul to message you personally but I thank you for all the work you've put in. My own dps has skyrocketed since reading your guides whispyr 🙂

[thorn fjord]

How was your box tho @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

I'm glad to hear it

[balmy condor]

it's funny you think I'm able to log in

[topaz bluff]

I can't even log in log-in servers are down

[night delta]

You get to have good ST while sporting your standard M+ build now

[thorn fjord]

If it makes you feel better I don’t have any action bars currently