This is like going to the mechanic without a car and saying "yeah so I idk what it is but my car has 100k miles on it and it has a good engine but it goes 60mph is that good?" (who do you think said that?)
#assassination
royal lantern
delicate berry
I'm sure just like that buff it's temporary
indigo epoch
Just play KB. Good to go.
broken fractal
does anyone have any good marketing materials for trying to make someone switch to enhancement shaman so I can get a windfury?
delicate berry
So I've noticed...it simmed low for me but it's slapping in large packs
gusty mirage
I sense its probably guy responding to someone asking a question without providing a log @royal lantern
did I guess right
royal lantern
yes, its guy
gusty mirage
So I've noticed...it simmed low for me but it's slapping in large packs
that's prolly because dslice won't ever sim a pull of like 10+ mobs
dslice is a boss fight and then a variety size of trash pulls
gusty mirage
does anyone have any good marketing materials for trying to make someone switch ...
I mean with how good enhance is right now
why would they need convincing
enhance cranks in raid and in keys
broken fractal
See, I don't know why no one seems to play it either
gusty mirage
high apm, high damage, has lust, has purge, has shortest kick in the game, has ankh for when you fuck up
royal lantern
resto shaman mandatory raid healer for 10years btw
broken fractal
I've started gearing an alt enhancement shaman because it feels like no one plays them and they're busted
gusty mirage
indirect buff to your teammates' grieftorch because of said ankh
broken fractal
but I kinda just want to vibe and smash a boss
gusty mirage
yeah and they cried about that 25% aura nerf btw
which was reverted by about 15ish%
and they're still obscenely good
WEIRD HOW THAT WORKED OUT
loud light
resto shaman mandatory raid healer for 10years btw
resto hasn't been mandatory in like 4 years though
royal lantern
yeah and they cried about that 25% aura nerf btw
25% aura nerf when they did like 50%more dmg then everyone else
broken fractal
I've realized not being able to parse because not having tier/windfury makes me sad
gusty mirage
25% aura nerf when they did like 50%more dmg then everyone else
our enhance was legit crying about it
for 2 weeks
I showed him a log
of an enhancement shaman that was dead for 60% of a mythic terros pull during raid test
and still top 3 dps
LMAO
royal lantern
resto hasn't been mandatory in like 4 years though
eh, its not that mandatory anymore, but SLT is still the strongest healing cd in the game with insane value
gusty mirage
@royal lantern
magic eagle
I've realized not being able to parse because not having tier/windfury makes me ...
I just recently found out our WF group indeed did not have wind fury going 😦
wary ice
smh "at enhance" isnt targeted enough?
gusty mirage
royal lantern
"just nerf the problematic abilitys"
brother
everything on enh shaman on the alpha/beta did insane dmg
they legit did more ranged dps then elemental shaman
gusty mirage
don't ask why my name is jared in my guild discord
broken fractal
I just recently found out our WF group indeed did not have wind fury going 😦
if you aren't constantly pming your sweet windfury prince thanking them for their service seems like it was your fault
gray crest
Why is it Jared
gusty mirage
Why is it Jared
because jet thought my name was jared
royal lantern
like man, enh shamans have such a victim complex
gray crest
And I legit though his name was Jeff for months
gusty mirage
gusty mirage
And I legit though his name was Jeff for months
I'm not trying to pronounce his real name
too quebecois for me
storm forum
my old guild thought my name was mike for the longest time
gusty mirage
And I legit though his name was Jeff for months
there's lore behind that
gusty mirage
my old guild thought my name was mike for the longest time
lmao did they just assume
and you never corrected them?
storm forum
yeah
gusty mirage
LMAO
magic eagle
People think my name is Bob and I just don’t get it.
gray crest
Yeah I didn't know, and there were times where it was only the French Canadians and me in voice. They would be speaking french and all I would hear is "Jeff Jeff" every so often
storm forum
my brother would regularly call me by my real name in disc too
and a lot of them just still thought my name was mike
gusty mirage
Yeah I didn't know, and there were times where it was only the French Canadians ...
yeah sano called him Jeff once and a trial thought that was his name
royal lantern
our RL calls my buddy by his real name cus he heared it once
and its weird af cus its a german name and he pronunces it wrong
gusty mirage
so it just stuck
errant swallow
Hello fellow assassins
frigid pilot
@vestal wren whats the reason haste is enchanted now instead of crit? for 10.0.5
frigid pilot
its just ever since exsang became the thing right
i remember prior to exsang it was crit
slow marsh
this is why you sim for yourself
vestal wren
but the reason enchants/gems are used is becuase they are the most consistent highest simming ones
frigid pilot
this is why you sim for yourself
i do, just wondering for the bis profile
vestal wren
i did opt to re-run the gem/enchant combination sim 3 times
and take the combinaiton that is most consistently on top
vestal wren
i should eliminate issues, but also gem combos are usually close
frigid pilot
in the 90.5 profile
broken fractal
I wouldn't think more than its just the best spread of stats, something something hit a falloff where something is better
vestal wren
but the reason haste became more dominant was exsang and puzzle box
broken fractal
change one piece, then suddenly oh you should enchant something else etc etc
slow marsh
puzzle box and exsang yeah
vestal wren
the sim had mastery ahead of haste before puzzle box
slow marsh
but the real question is what race are you
vestal wren
koji did an exsang improvement, and suddenly haste was on par or slightly ahead
frigid pilot
onuses trigger the secondary cap diminishing returns?
slow marsh
yes
vestal wren
just to clarify this
vestal wren
when i mean "on par or ahead" i mean the sim did spread the gear profile stats equally
anyone feel free to correct me if this sassumption is good
but if the sim e.g. takes 5k+ crit, and 2k haste and mastery
i would lable crit as the strogest stat
and haste mastery about equal on 2nd
gusty mirage
anyone feel free to correct me if this sassumption is good
you nailed it, no need to correct anything
vestal wren
just for stats on gear this is 10.0.5 so far
gusty mirage
I did notice haste becoming more in favor after the exsang improvements for my own profile
at least for the ring enchants
vestal wren
vs. pre 10.0.5
vestal wren
so marginal more haste
vestal wren
but rly nothing changed significantly
broken fractal
oh you don't know abou the 1570 vers breakpoint?
frigid pilot
oh you don't know abou the 1570 vers breakpoint?
is that when all the gigachads get laid
broken fractal
yeah she don't let me hit unless I pull open the character tab and prove it
vestal wren
oh you don't know abou the 1570 vers breakpoint?
haha, i think it is just that the gear pieces with vers didn't change
gusty mirage
no, they play wow they don't get laid
slow marsh
i forgot to include AP
in what
vestal wren
and we can now again have a spread with higher execute
frigid pilot
u get a nice parse in wow u get jeff telling u gj bro
thorn fjord
I get a good parse and get told to parse better
storm forum
AP ahead of KB 
slow marsh
ap right here @vestal wren
gusty mirage
I get a good parse and get told to parse better
so wow parse culture is like having brown parents?
thorn fjord
so wow parse culture is like having brown parents?
Essentially
vestal wren
ap right here <@194804407706189824>
oh, did i take a wrong one?
slow marsh
oh, did i take a wrong one?
na i'm looking at ap in the combinations sim. it's there, it's just not very good
frigid pilot
what does 1 do after parsing 8x 100
thorn fjord
Brown parents would be content with your choice of profession tho
frigid pilot
@limber lion
slow marsh
or do you mean including ap in the dslice sim
gusty mirage
@thorn fjord nothing like graduating with a finance & econ degree with only a 3.3 to disappoint my parents
"Why didn't you get honors?"
"WHY DID YOU MOVE TO AMERICA?"
checkmate mom
vestal wren
i mean, if i look at the comparison
slow marsh
I mean at least your parents care
magic vine
na i'm looking at ap in the combinations sim. it's there, it's just not very goo...
fuu's ap is 1k higher than yours there, its still down compared to the dtb but its ahead of 10.2 kb
gusty mirage
I mean at least your parents care
they're culturally obligated to care
its not the same
broken fractal
I have to try and explain myself when my green parse is in the middle of people's 85 parses
slow marsh
fuu's ap is 1k higher than yours there, its still down compared to the dtb but i...
this is from fuu's sim but yeah sure
limber lion
oops
broken fractal
I swear rogue isn't broken
limber lion
<@165215952479322112>
quit.
slow marsh
they're culturally obligated to care
fair enough
frigid pilot
so to be free from wow addiction we need to hit all 100s
thorn fjord
@gusty mirage Hispanic parents are a little different… my mother coddled the bell out of me growing up and my dad was only really there to bail me out of bad situations lol
gusty mirage
<@192059095279337473> Hispanic parents are a little different… my mother coddled...
same, except the mom part
my mom would always side with the teachers
my dad would walk in "WHAT DID YOU DO TO MY SON"
thorn fjord
Oh hell no
magic vine
this is from fuu's sim but yeah sure
ah i see what you mean. theres an entry at 90.5 that you missed though
vestal wren
na i'm looking at ap in the combinations sim. it's there, it's just not very goo...
but execute on raz
slow marsh
ah i see what you mean. theres an entry at 90.5 that you missed though
oh oopsies
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thorn fjord
@vestal wren use your blizzard connects to cut maintenance down a few hours plz
vestal wren
i wish i could
vestal wren
hope you get something good in the vault
gusty mirage
hope you get something good in the vault
can you tell Ion to give me an eranog ring
slow marsh
I only have 3x normal and one m+ box for my first vault
gusty mirage
if I have a 3rd vault in a row that tempts me to take a socket
vestal wren
also i can see it already, i picture a icon or socket fire ring in my box
oblique jackal
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gusty mirage
I might just commit sudoku
slow marsh
idk if that's good or bad tbh
spice spire
Stinky 17-18 boxes and a mythic raid box this week
gusty mirage
@spice spire I got a juiced vault for the 2nd week in a row
slow marsh
damn quake boxes lightyears ahead of mine
gusty mirage
you know what that means
spice spire
Yeah same last week
steel ridge
my box is gonna be gigajuice, 3x421 and 2x mythic
spice spire
damn quake boxes lightyears ahead of mine
I pugged every key last week and understand why people stop running m+ now
slow marsh
I pugged every key last week and understand why people stop running m+ now
yeah i just been running low keys cuz i dont even want to bother pugging higher yet
gusty mirage
I watched a guildie
grim tangle
I pugged one key, the tank died 5 seconds into the first pull and left the group
frigid pilot
I pugged every key last week and understand why people stop running m+ now
had a 2700 dk tank pull entire rppm after first hov boss wipe and instaleave in our 20
spice spire
gusty mirage
I pugged one key, the tank died 5 seconds into the first pull and left the group
"wait here, don't do damage"
gathers 18 mobs
dies
alt-f4's
spice spire
Had a pally (mind you this isn’t crazy, just a 16 for pb) get one shot through his guardian on cawwth
And that’s when I knew
frigid pilot
tanks that leave when theres still a ton of time left and u need the 20 for ur vault after 1 wipe which was his fault should be locked up
spice spire
It was doom
slow marsh
my little bro tanks keys and i can't wait to put his dps to shame on sin
thorn fjord
Raid was cancelled for us tonight and moved to tomorrow if you wanna smash tonight
Watch me get a 20 academy
slim hamlet
NA gamers gaming in ~4 hours right?
thorn fjord
God willing @slim hamlet
slim hamlet
no idea what that means 🙂
thorn fjord
Means I hope they don’t extend
thorn fjord
Essentially
shut owl
we never did a key before I left the server D:
thorn fjord
When did you transfer
shut owl
yesterday lol
spice spire
Raid was cancelled for us tonight and moved to tomorrow if you wanna smash tonig...
I’m off tonight 
We have heroic reclear off night but Val has claimed me for the second week in a row
frigid pilot
I’m off tonight <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
We have heroic reclear off night b...
valorant? 😮
thorn fjord
Yea Jess is trying to keep me off my pc tonight
spice spire
No, my fiancée
thorn fjord
But I’ll prob get on for an hour or two after work
spice spire
But I’ll prob get on for an hour or two after work
Get off at 6:30 CST, gonna be home around 8 and gotta make dinner
royal lantern
Sennarth progress time 
spice spire
royal lantern
frigid pilot
Sennarth progress time <:catPOG:841305669428576316>
just killed her last night, aids
2nd/3rd rocks r fake
frigid pilot
royal lantern
i just shadowstep
frigid pilot
el no sabe
well not sure if u help lead
but if its just u then ye just step away brudda
fading wigeon
2nd/3rd rocks r fake
All the rocks work. It's where you stand that matters.
gusty mirage
dathea exists
so I can't agree with you on that one
while sennarth is unfun
it's more annoying than anything else
grim tangle
I like sennarth
broken fractal
for spider is everyone just gating halfway up the stairs then just being sad about the slip and slide?
royal lantern
im 10pulls in, but the fight feels like the typical "you wait until the 3 really SLOW guys dont die for once" boss
broken fractal
any time I have to walk any distance up icy stairs I want to die
bitter aurora
any time I have to walk any distance up icy stairs I want to die
lock gate stair 1 and 3. cloak and sprint stair 2?
grim tangle
broodkeeper is actually the worst fight because P1 is literally just target dummy practice, very boring
zero mechanics
broken fractal
lock gate stair 1 and 3. cloak and sprint stair 2?
it is as I feared there is no good way only wacky ice physics
strange python
dathea exists
I can see dathea varying wildly by guild.
If you play with greedlords who won't move for dunks that fight becomes awful
orchid wraith
what poison should i play with as assa rogue ?
strange python
Not arsenic.
gusty mirage
I can see dathea varying wildly by guild.
just an awful boss for melee
I thought I'd be lucky being on the boss the entire time
but I kinda wish I could go on the platforms now
lmao
thorn fjord
Still havent decided whether to play OL or Sin on Kurog
strange python
Lots changes on dathea
gray crest
Or play sub on kurog and cry
gusty mirage
so like heroic dathea
you were like okay
this fight's kinda neat
then they took the worst parts of the fight
strange python
Marks don't expire, dunking gives a giant dot, managing stacks on adds is moderately complicated. Platform spawn orders are random do you have to kill the mob at the right time
gusty mirage
and made them even worse
you waste half of your prog pulls with people figuring shit out
strange python
If you kill the add for knock too soon you won't know which platforms are right. Kill it too slow and your platform group auto wipes to marks
The window is about 5 seconds
You have to kill it at the same time and put it in the right place each pull
oak sky
My raids actually been really good about the add
royal lantern
you waste half of your prog pulls with people figuring shit out
so, like every single mythic fight ever?
60pulls in and the bigbrain goes "oh, so fire KILLS US and we should avoid it?"
strange python
My raids actually been really good about the add
I just hated getting the call to cancel blade flurry half the pulls.
oak sky
I just hated getting the call to cancel blade flurry half the pulls.
I just stand further from the add
strange python
Outlaw on dathea feels awful if your raid has lots of cleave
oak sky
Its not that big of a deal
oak sky
60pulls in and the bigbrain goes "oh, so fire KILLS US and we should avoid it?"
Half the time i ask dumb questions in raid so other people understand mechanics
royal lantern
I just hated getting the call to cancel blade flurry half the pulls.
deserve that for playing outlaw tbh
wind condor
I had to swap outlaw for the remainder of prog and I’m so sad about it
thorn fjord
Half the time i ask dumb questions in raid so other people understand mechanics
bro if i did that i'd get chewed out so hard lol
oak sky
bro if i did that i'd get chewed out so hard lol
I mean im literally helping other people not int
When people try to tell me its a dumb question
wind condor
My hand already hurts playing that zoomer shit
oak sky
I will literally tell them who im asking for
frigid pilot
@thorn fjord was asking myself the same question, but we have issues with add dmg, might have to be OL for me
thorn fjord
I will literally tell them who im asking for
ah ok... it would be more like damnit dieslow did you not watch the video lol
if it was for others they would be more understanding
oak sky
I mean like i clearly dont int mechs right
But like
I just clarify something super obvious
That other people are fucking up
Or make sure everyone knows the reasoning behind what we're doing
By asking
So people actually do it right
thorn fjord
<@97773487619334144> was asking myself the same question, but we have issues wit...
Our group has a shit ton of cleave so I may be ok but we'll see
thorn fjord
So people actually do it right
I usually just whisper whoever keeps fucking up to the same mechs and try and help them that way
frigid pilot
jade ring wont drop but the academy ring did, might just go sin and 415 the ring
since cos ring aint dropping either
thorn fjord
Very true
royal lantern
I had to swap outlaw for the remainder of prog and I’m so sad about it
i told my RL that i will play assa and not the abomination that is DF outlaw, and thats it 
gray hazel
For the new 10.0.5 build, if we dont run Exsang, you put that point into IP? Or is there just a different exsang-less poison build now?
frigid pilot
i told my RL that i will play assa and not the abomination that is DF outlaw, an...
df outlaw hurts my wrist 
thorn fjord
Its not that bad @frigid pilot lol
I put audacity on my mouse to make the HO loops easier
er ambush on my mouse*
frosty flame
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strange python
Isn’t launch today so we get new sims before 3pm?
royal lantern
Isn’t launch today so we get new sims before 3pm?
you need to spam ping orange names for that
strange python
@balmy condor don’t you lie to me on your spreadsheet 💁🏼♀️😭😭
wide hawk
are we getting another spark thing after reset?
strange python
Yes
high wagon
Just want to double check since this will be my first raid playing exsanguinate I'm assuming we hold DM and puzzle for second esanguinate if the fight is lasting that long?
wind condor
i told my RL that i will play assa and not the abomination that is DF outlaw, an...
Haha tryna swing Sin for M kurog/Dathea was not gonna happen
high wagon
hold exsang/box for your 3rd DM
Ty that actually makes more sense otherwise your losing a DM cast
frozen pivot
any new assassination build?
strange python
Yes
marble hemlock
Isn’t launch today so we get new sims before 3pm?
There's a second tab with ptr Sims already, what specifically are you looking for?
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> don’t you lie to me on your spreadsheet 💁🏼♀️😭😭
What I do
slim hamlet
Everything
spice spire
Too much
slim hamlet
Isn’t launch today so we get new sims before 3pm?
wowhead also updated
strange python
yeah i was just wanting to mess. thank you for coming to my ted talk ❤️
balmy condor
I’m very lost
slim hamlet
Also Whispyr wowhead stuff is a bit confusing
balmy condor
Why
thorn fjord
Ever since I’ve become a regular here I’ve actually enjoyed playing the game a lot more
frail fern
Broad question - i just came back from a 3 year break. Was asked to play enh shammy, wasn't a fan. Got the go ahead to swap to rogue. Currently 4/8m. I was a sin main for years and it's my first love, haven't played it outside of leveling this xpac. Is it really only "viable" for pure single target? I've looked at sims and logs etc, but kinda wanted community feedback/thoughts.
thorn fjord
You got KiR in your name bro
strange python
I am not a red namer anymore
IMPOSTER
slim hamlet
royal lantern
🙂
slow marsh
Ever since I’ve become a regular here I’ve actually enjoyed playing the game a l...
tbh its the reason i came back
slim hamlet
I HATE THE SPIDER
royal lantern
19pulls and didnt even had a full clean 2nd add kill
like bruh
3x did the 2nd stairs and half the raid is deadf
turbid harbor
Dathea is worse than spider
thorn fjord
People getting pulled off?
slim hamlet
Broad question - i just came back from a 3 year break. Was asked to play enh sha...
Its fine in aoe, u lose quite a lot ST to get aoe/cleave compared to the other specs tho
royal lantern
People getting pulled off?
tornados and pulled
slim hamlet
People getting pulled off?
Our reason is that spooder jsut simply doesnt die fast enough
thorn fjord
The tornadoes spawn in the same spot Everytime… people will get used to it
slim hamlet
we alo only had like 10 pulls and no warlock
besides our tank that went on a rat 370 lock and we had an off tank instead
for like 5 pulls
pretty epic
thorn fjord
Nightmare fuel
slim hamlet
Yep
frail fern
Its fine in aoe, u lose quite a lot ST to get aoe/cleave compared to the other s...
Do you feel like the single target/2 target cleave makes up for it, compared to say sub?
slim hamlet
Surely we kill thursday
slim hamlet
Do you feel like the single target/2 target cleave makes up for it, compared to ...
I believe sub sims like JUST behind us in ST anyways
but I also believe 2T is kinda wack for sub
need confirmation on that one tho
slow marsh
yes it is
frail fern
Yeah did some mythic grimtotem pulls last night and sub felt super weird, feels like single target or 4+ target is where sub shines
slow marsh
sub is pretty weak 2-3 t historically
slim hamlet
yea on kurog I would go outlaw and if u hate yahtzee, sin
slow marsh
That's where our niche typically should be
slim hamlet
That's where our niche typically should be
keyword "should"
frail fern
I don't have anything but daggers 
thorn fjord
Yeah OL is the 2t god
slow marsh
yep outlaw always seems to do it better
thorn fjord
Sub blows hard on 2t
frail fern
yeah, i could farm some 16s and do a 418 dagger OH and make a 418 sword, been playing with the thought
slow marsh
I think it'd be fine if OL was fine / better on 3t but the fact we don't even have real 2t niche is a joke to me
royal lantern
sub is pretty weak 2-3 t historically
and then it got a bleed that does more dmg then the DOT SPEC BLEED that also has a auto spread
🙂
thorn fjord
I got the 1h off spider Sunday so I can craft my sin OH tonight 😀
thorn fjord
Yeah
frail fern
Seems like sin is just under represented as a whole for this tier
slow marsh
and then it got a bleed that does more dmg then the DOT SPEC BLEED that also has...
i mean the idea of shadow rupture is fine with me tbh
royal lantern
Seems like sin is just under represented as a whole for this tier
worse st then sub
same st as outlaw
slow marsh
just dont make it better than sin 2-3t
thorn fjord
Sin will be better on kurog if your group needs that boss dmg tho which is nice
royal lantern
and then poisons and shit
the shit is poisonbomb
sand elm
so why play assa
cos its fun
royal lantern
well duh
slim hamlet
specially crisp when i click fok 3 times and CT 1 time and 2 enemies in an m+ pull only got poison procced
thats my favourite part
slow marsh
cuz playing sin is holding on to the forever cope that we'll get buffed one day, then when that day finally comes we just get insta nerfed back into mid just to start all over again
slim hamlet
idk I just love this spec
slow marsh
I do too
slow marsh
I can play whatever but I just enjoy assassination the most
royal lantern
idk I just love this spec
thorn fjord
Same
slim hamlet
This is the first time I am actually having fun besides rsham
thorn fjord
I can play whatever but I just enjoy assassination the most
I did enjoy Sub for a good amount of time mid SL tho
slim hamlet
This is the first time I am actually having fun besides rsham
But I think that was just because it was first time doing actual raids too
slim hamlet
I can play whatever but I just enjoy assassination the most
Same
I like learning all specs in the class, but sin is just always more fun
slow marsh
I did enjoy Sub for a good amount of time mid SL tho
i'm glad you enjoyed it. I didn't lol. I don't mind sub right now though oddly enough
slow marsh
i'm a fan of OL right now because ambush goes brrrrrrrr but i can only craft one weap and i made a daggie
thorn fjord
for sure
slim hamlet
If I had to play current OL without audacity
thorn fjord
Its a really good feeling when the loop just keeps going and going
slim hamlet
Holy that spec would suck ass
thorn fjord
seeing those ambush animations gives me a chubby
slim hamlet
I was a firm demo lock enjoyer while destro was op
slow marsh
the rtb minigame is fun to me
slim hamlet
Easy invites even when "wrong spec"
OL was also sick s4 sl tbh
Infinite energy infinite cp
slow marsh
I'm glad I didn't play s4 SL. I feel like I would've never come back
Break worked wonders for me
slim hamlet
s4 sl is only reason I play rogue
thorn fjord
Bro OL S4 was fucking CRACK
I absolutely loved the playstyle lol
Flag enthusiast here
slim hamlet
in cooldowns u were actually just swimming in energy and cp
even without dreadblades I feel like u clicked finisher every 2nd global
hoary abyss
any videos or recommendations on who I should watch to better help me learn my rotation for raiding as assassination?
slow marsh
Just don't go to youtube
thorn fjord
He could watch Varas
slow marsh
find streamers on twitch
thorn fjord
Yeah Twitch is your best bet
slim hamlet
Not the fish
late veldt
Dalaran gaming 
slow marsh
Noooooo lol
slim hamlet
Dalaran gaming <:concernedpopcorn:622840041118629929>
isnt he giga yahtzee main
late veldt
No idea
slim hamlet
I got recommended his sin guide I believe
shut owl
any videos or recommendations on who I should watch to better help me learn my r...
Seli and Whispyr do a fair bit of streaming
thorn fjord
Only youtube videos i watch for sin are Pika's
terse orchid
even without dreadblades I feel like u clicked finisher every 2nd global
That sounds dreadful tbh
thorn fjord
but obv thats only for pvp
slim hamlet
Only youtube videos i watch for sin are Pika's
I feel like pika just chooses whatever and cranks
slow marsh
You're best bet honestly is to just hang in here and read faqs. Catch seli streams if you can
Whisp streams, oxi streams
thorn fjord
I feel like pika just chooses whatever and cranks
He's usually always right though lol
slim hamlet
I remember his first few sin builds was cooked
thorn fjord
I love that kid
slow marsh
Pika is entertaining for sure
lament warren
pikaboo is my favorite pvp player
frozen turtle
any videos or recommendations on who I should watch to better help me learn my r...
This makes me miss infexious
slow marsh
Actually I kind miss infexious too cuz it was good drama entertainment
turbid harbor
I only recently started watching pika but I love his content
terse orchid
This makes me miss infexious
Wait, where did he go?
late veldt
adulthood took him
royal lantern
I only recently started watching pika but I love his content
pvp lol
frozen turtle
adulthood took him
Yuuupp another one bites the dust
grim jay
pikaboo is my favorite pvp player
actually like pika and xaryu equally
frozen turtle
Wait, where did he go?
Stopped playing but I still think he’ll be back
grim jay
in different ways
slow marsh
I mean good for him and good for the mainstream normies. Less misinformation to go around
terse orchid
The day his WA stops working imma go play some braindead shit like dk
lament warren
he just fills the room
grim jay
xaryu is cool but everyone but pika makes me feel empty
dunno if thats sad or good
actually
valid whale
The day his WA stops working imma go play some braindead shit like dk
Bro what DK 10x harder than rogue lol
lament warren
pretty sad i think
balmy condor
You and the other writers are fantastic and much appreciated.
my pleasure
thorn fjord
Bro what DK 10x harder than rogue lol
No its not lol
valid whale
Whispyr keeping Assa enjoyers alive
slim hamlet
No its not lol
let him cook
lament warren
i do personally think unholy is harder than rogue
but dks have zero responsibilities
they just deal damage
slim hamlet
uhdk is like 20 cds and nothing else
thorn fjord
Its not harder its just a little awkward with the button pressing
lament warren
and avoid any mechanic that has to do with movement
terse orchid
Bro what DK 10x harder than rogue lol
Harder to enjoy, sure
grim jay
i do personally think unholy is harder than rogue
actually its pretty straightforward
late veldt
Afraid to admit it but have not played anything else as rogue since wotlk
lament warren
every spec is straight forward
thorn fjord
Where Rogue makes sense as far as the flow chart UH is a little weird
lament warren
awkward is hard
marble hemlock
https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/10k0rkw/carpal_tunnel_from_play...
the more worrying medical condition should be the brain damage you get from playing/reading outlaw for too long
slim hamlet
I remember using hekilli once when I didnt know half of the english words
as uhdk
and I bottomed meters
grim jay
@balmy condor what happened to your sleep schedule, isnt it even more fucked up than usual? I'm worried about my Zuckerschnute.
slim hamlet
I blame it on the addon
thorn fjord
I blame it on the addon
100%
slim hamlet
<@167090536602140682> what happened to your sleep schedule, isnt it even more fu...
what in the fuck did u just call him
Zuckerschnute
royal lantern
https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/10k0rkw/carpal_tunnel_from_play...
i mean, i have CTS, i legit cant play the spec for more then 30min
spice spire
Where Rogue makes sense as far as the flow chart UH is a little weird
I’ve learned that rogue does not make sense to everyone
terse orchid
I blame it on the addon
"Yep, I see what's causing your problems; faulty damage meter."
frigid pilot
sc2 pro answered 😮
flint tusk
US servers still down or something?
sorta shocked we haven't seen a "What do i pick" 
post
slim hamlet
I 100% thought rogue was the hardest class BY FAR before I started it
spice spire
i mean, i have CTS, i legit cant play the spec for more then 30min
Skill issue Tbh
late veldt
what in the fuck did u just call him
As a swede I can confirm its dirty
thorn fjord
I’ve learned that rogue does not make sense to everyone
We play a flow chart class tho
slim hamlet
Now I think its like one of the hardest, but prob not THE hardest
thorn fjord
Just follow the path
slim hamlet
As a swede I can confirm its dirty
As a dane idk wtf it means
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> what happened to your sleep schedule, isnt it even more fu...
so I didn't sleep saturday to sunday, then on sunday I went to bed at 4am, woke up monday at 10:30 with my alarm. Then yesterday I was up till 5:30am, and I woke up at 11am
terse orchid
I’ve learned that rogue does not make sense to everyone
I should give sub a try but it scares me. Sin has just always made perfect sense and outlul is outlul
slim hamlet
"Yep, I see what's causing your problems; faulty damage meter."
this tbh
slim hamlet
Just follow the path
this is legit every spec
spice spire
Worst case, you suck and you learn
thorn fjord
this is legit every spec
Not every.. some specs play wackamole
miss me with that shit
zinc frost
I should give sub a try but it scares me. Sin has just always made perfect sense...
Sub is very easy at the moment, especially in keys.
terse orchid
Worst case, you suck and you learn
Sucking feels bad when I could be pumping
grim jay
so I didn't sleep saturday to sunday, then on sunday I went to bed at 4am, woke ...
thats pretty messed up. sounds like you got the same amount of sleep I work with most of the time, people just shrug if they hear it, saying they would die 😄
thorn fjord
Sucking feels bad when I could be pumping
Sucking usually feels good yafeelme?
slim hamlet
Whispyr is on demon hours
slow marsh
Sin mods stay on demon hours
spice spire
Whispyr pulling a 2022 quake
slim hamlet
Do you know if u gonna be on max stream tonight btw Whispyr
terse orchid
Sucking usually feels good yafeelme?
Not when you're the one doing it
balmy condor
thats pretty messed up. sounds like you got the same amount of sleep I work with...
my issue is that I don't need a lot of sleep in general, so I end up staying up really late
indigo pollen
anyone have any pvp thoughts for the patch today
balmy condor
Do you know if u gonna be on max stream tonight btw Whispyr
I haven't been asked
slim hamlet
He was doing 10.0.5 and general class discussion yesterday, missing a few
frozen turtle
Worst case, you suck and you learn
Eww what is “learn”
thorn fjord
Clean even
Pure*
grim jay
Zuckerschnute
Zuckerschnute is basically sweetie on german
terse orchid
anyone have any pvp thoughts for the patch today
I think it's illegal to use "pvp" and "thoughts" in the same sentence
slim hamlet
I haven't been asked
Yea he just randomly texted people 2 mins before yesterday too
balmy condor
sounds like max
slow marsh
yeah
slim hamlet
Zuckerschnute is basically sweetie on german
Sukkersnude
spice spire
You mfs making up words
slow marsh
that why his lists are pretty much jokes
spice spire
Swear to god
thorny pond
You mfs making up words
All words were made up
terse orchid
Sukkersnude
Suikersnoet?
thorn fjord
that why his lists are pretty much jokes
Too bad people take whatever he says as the Alpha and Omega
slim hamlet
Suikersnoet?
nej sukkersnude
terse orchid
Gesundheit
thorn fjord
nej sukkersnude
bless you ❤️
late veldt
sötnos
slim hamlet
søde kage
slow marsh
ofc they do cuz they dont have brains to think for themselves
terse orchid
bless you ❤️
Ayooo
spice spire
All words were made up
Just like me man
slim hamlet
yes
grim jay
my issue is that I don't need a lot of sleep in general, so I end up staying up ...
I dont need a lot of sleep either, but for me its rather that I feel like I dont have much of my day after work if I dont stay up that long. I could 100% use more sleep tho. 
oak sky
that why his lists are pretty much jokes
I mean theyre jokes because theyre always the sum of the opinions of like 20 people who all think about the game differently
grim jay
Sukkersnude
that actually sounds pretty cool ngl
slim hamlet
@thorny pond bro u simply have to change your profile pic
terse orchid
I dont need a lot of sleep either, but for me its rather that I feel like I dont...
Become a civil servant. Work is just a suggestion for when you're raid locked and only have HoV keys
hoary abyss
thanks ill look up those streamers
balmy condor
You mfs making up words
donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänsmützenputzermaschinenölpreisschilddruckertintenfabrikschornsteinabgasinspektörsausweisanforderungsbeleg
thorn fjord
<@212747189703671808> bro u simply have to change your profile pic
be the change you want to see
slim hamlet
donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänsmützenputzermaschinenölpreisschilddru...
speciallægepraksisplanlægningsstabilliseringsperiode
thorn fjord
^^^^ New capstone
thorny pond
<@212747189703671808> bro u simply have to change your profile pic
@spice spire picked it for me
grim jay
donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänsmützenputzermaschinenölpreisschilddru...
its Oberweserdampfschifffahrts... 
spice spire
This is a real comment
slim hamlet
donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänsmützenputzermaschinenölpreisschilddru...
Thought that was an import at the start
novel arrow
@balmy condor Can you settle a dispute. Does Enevenom consume 2x amp poison during deathmark.
sonic schooner
That s a nice word whispyr
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> Can you settle a dispute. Does Enevenom consume 2x amp poi...
yes sir
sonic schooner
What does it mean?
slow marsh
quake can pick me one too if he wants. he knows me well enough i think
novel arrow
@balmy condor You do gods work.
thorn fjord
Ive had the same disc pic since 2016
thorny pond
Why would u do that
I believe it was because "iykyk"
slim hamlet
I dont want to know
spice spire
But this is still a new one
thorny pond
Summer Beach
lament warren
i want to know
slow marsh
it is but it isn't
dreamy gull
Who's ready to log in for dtb gaming
thorny pond
I am just ready to die
terse orchid
Who's ready to log in for dtb gaming
Can't hardly wait. Shame eu server reset is still a ways off
slim hamlet
Who gonna stop me
dreamy gull
The only reason I'm excited is I can get IC now
novel arrow
Can someone pls Msg Blizzard and get them to start servers? I think we've done enough testing.
balmy condor
What does it mean?
it's the document to get a new id card for the inspector of the emissions for the smoke stack that makes the ink for the printer for the price-sign for a machine that cleans the hat of a captain of a steam boat that goes down the river donau
thorny pond
slim hamlet
nah
slim hamlet
Means sugar snout
thorny pond
snapper is cool
slim hamlet
Word some use for their partner
thorn fjord
I like Danishes
terse orchid
Basically sweet cheeks
slim hamlet
Basically sweet cheeks
ye
thorny pond
Gonna put my snout in your snapper @spice spire
terse orchid
Not to be confused with sugar tits
grim jay
@slim hamlet apparently americans have an issue with saying "knuffeliges Knuddelbärchen". thats what eminem told me.
slim hamlet
<@210141260663619584> apparently americans have an issue with saying "knuffelige...
wtf is that
Guessing its german still
Bro I studied that shit for like 5 years
spice spire
Gonna put my snout in your snapper <@226508540746006528>
The snussy
slim hamlet
and idk whats going on
terse orchid
Cuddly something
ocean ore
hey all!! this new talent of shiv cleave will make assassin strong in m+? like sub or outlaw
balmy condor
hey all!! this new talent of shiv cleave will make assassin strong in m+? like s...
nop
royal lantern
my translators license coming in handy
wasn für eine
balmy condor
reed die peens
royal lantern
hey all!! this new talent of shiv cleave will make assassin strong in m+? like s...
the talent is shit
🙂
slim hamlet
reed die peens
sorry I dont speak that language
frozen turtle
hey all!! this new talent of shiv cleave will make assassin strong in m+? like s...
Lulz
slim hamlet
english only here please
terse orchid
hey all!! this new talent of shiv cleave will make assassin strong in m+? like s...
No, because sin is already top dog obviously
terse orchid
Oi
terse orchid
Don't you dare
slim hamlet
my man dabbed over text
balmy condor
thorn fjord
🤣
balmy condor
frozen turtle
Top dog on deez
grim jay
wtf is that
word for word, it would be something like cuddly snugglebear, for a lack of better words
thorny pond
eat shit and sleep excellence then maybe you can get on Whispyr's level
flint tusk
If you play sin in m+ and do less damage than outlaw and sub. is a skill issue 
spice spire
thorn fjord
I need to get work done but i dont want to... this is too entertaining
late veldt
Remember this discord on DF release
balmy condor
eat shit and sleep excellence then maybe you can get on Whispyr's level
you mean eat excellence and shit sleep
terse orchid
If you play sin in m+ and do less damage than outlaw and sub. is a skill issue <...
The real skill issue is not preventing sub or outlaw from joining your group
balmy condor
(I'm a cannibal)
thorny pond
you mean eat excellence and shit sleep
Eat Hi Chew and piss on #outlaw
strange python
8 hour maintenance days suck
slim hamlet
Spending my 10 mins thinking about what dumb shit to type next
balmy condor
Eat Hi Chew and piss on <#316923682607857685>
what a based thing to say
spice spire
10 minute wait times
slim hamlet
My favourite part of this disc
royal lantern
(I'm a cannibal)
eating ass doesnt turn you into a cannibal
balmy condor
eating ass doesnt turn you into a cannibal
no, but eating your mother does
strange python
Eating ass is gross
grim jay
if someone says "back in the days on this discord" I immediately get reminded of people asking when to use TB
thorn fjord
Turns you into a boss @royal lantern
frozen turtle
Can’t wait to sit outside of raid instance for extra hr cuz can’t load in 🥲
spice spire
Eating ass is gross
Take it back
strange python
Never
thorny pond
Eat ass > doing ass DPS
slim hamlet
Eating ass is gross
pussy
thorny pond
ez clap
grim jay
so y’all happy mad or don’t care about assa tree change
watch your back the next time you are in stormwind brother
spice spire
so y’all happy mad or don’t care about assa tree change
Bit of both happy/sad/don’t care
Not much changes
slim hamlet
so y’all happy mad or don’t care about assa tree change
malding
thorny pond
DTB
slim hamlet
absolutely dooming
thorny pond
nothing new
slim hamlet
and fuming
frigid pilot
cpm LOL
terse orchid
so y’all happy mad or don’t care about assa tree change
Anything that removes exsang from my life is good in my book
frigid pilot
fury warriors
muted ridge
I will kill my guild mates, I need confirmation from people here. Is is WORTH to insta distract Diurna (mythic) the moment she spawns? Bear in mind often they are still eating once she spawns.
thorn fjord
We were dooming yesterday
late veldt
Do we like zerocool btw?
late veldt
cool
spice spire
Nochill 
grim jay
we like to hate him
slim hamlet
New capstone is nice, if it wasnt sucky and if it wasnt a capstone 🙂
late veldt
were like mean girls
slim hamlet
So pretty much perfect
balmy condor
we like him just as much as staring at the apes in a zoo exhibit
frigid pilot
Your enh is asleep
thats my friends guild not mine
thorny pond
were like mean girls
Movie is based on this channel
strange python
Your friends enh is asleep
grim jay
we like him just as much as staring at the apes in a zoo exhibit
thats actually pretty accurate
late veldt
figured
thorny pond
book is based on @gusty mirage
terse orchid
we like him just as much as staring at the apes in a zoo exhibit
So perusing #outlaw?
slim hamlet
wait why dont we like zerocool
strange python
Whispyr for ravenholdt mod when
slim hamlet
isnt he the guy doing CB and shit
lament warren
I will kill my guild mates, I need confirmation from people here. Is is WORTH to...
depends on where you’re starting
cpm
balmy condor
wait why dont we like zerocool
cause he's an actual clown
muted ridge
depends on where you’re starting
next to stairs, but we move to left
grim jay
I'm really thankful whispyr made me aware of zerocool
frigid pilot
protect ur wrists friends
royal lantern
wait why dont we like zerocool
he has 0 cool quality's
lament warren
you should just distract in a good spot to pull
slim hamlet
he has 0 cool quality's
I have only seen his name on m+ ladder
lament warren
because it’s actually really bad if she gets a cast off before getting to eggs
muted ridge
which is ????
lament warren
pretty sure left
muted ridge
she goes insta right
slim hamlet
outlaw on kurog
how in the fuck
lament warren
ah then yes
thorny pond
i don’t know what way she pats first
she serpentines
lament warren
distract
slim hamlet
also how do you see this in logs?
muted ridge
deal
lament warren
it’s worth
frigid pilot
how in the fuck
ikr
balmy condor
it's honestly a miracle zerocool found an m+ group considering he spent all of shadowlands getting booted from m+ groups until he had such a bad reputation he had to pug all his keys
frozen turtle
Why do mostly see outlaw and Sub on logs top rogue parses ??
lament warren
if you pull from a bad position she will random incubate bad eggs and spawn staff in africa
frozen turtle
Need some sin representation!
strange python
Why do mostly see outlaw and Sub on logs top rogue parses ??
Because sin got nerfed because whispyr is too good at his job
balmy condor
Why do mostly see outlaw and Sub on logs top rogue parses ??
better specs 
terse orchid
Why do mostly see outlaw and Sub on logs top rogue parses ??
Because the people with the big brains necessary to properly play sin also have the good sense to not play sin I guess
slim hamlet
it's honestly a miracle zerocool found an m+ group considering he spent all of s...
give me the drama
strange python
If whispyr was just as dishonest as the warlocks and hid all our sins, we'd get buffs surely.
balmy condor
give me the drama
I just did 
frigid pilot
just pretend the spec is unplayable like rets do
slim hamlet
Besides just saying he was an ass
frigid pilot
worked 2 times in a row
thorny pond
let's start a rumor about someone right now and pretend it is truth
balmy condor
Besides just saying he was an ass
nah he's a fairly nice guy, he was just shit at the game
slim hamlet
cause he's an actual clown
huh
slim hamlet
he has 0 cool quality's
huh
balmy condor
yeh
worthy timber
Does arterial precision increase existing bleeds by 20% for 8 seconds? Or are we going to have to shiv and then apply our bleeds?
balmy condor
Does arterial precision increase existing bleeds by 20% for 8 seconds? Or are we...
the first
strange python
Holy fuck
slim hamlet
fucking imagine if it was good and we had to snapshot
strange python
The second sounds cursed
thorny pond
what is this, 2013?
subtle tundra
it's honestly a miracle zerocool found an m+ group considering he spent all of s...
what playing 24/7 does to a mf
slim hamlet
that shit would be actually worthless no matter what
thorn fjord
Only clown im down with is Rockzo the clown
strange python
Just like that, a thousand sin voices cried out
slim hamlet
shiv carnage garrote from stealth
yea what about all the shivs u just sitting on without vanish and carnage
dapper wraith
Does arterial precision increase existing bleeds by 20% for 8 seconds? Or are we...
Doesn't matter, no one is going to play it 😄
gilded oasis
banger alert
I brain farted on spider last night and DM then Exsang. It was cash money
balmy condor
I brain farted on spider last night and DM then Exsang. It was cash money
I did that on kill too
gilded oasis
bro kills are always my worst pull
slim hamlet
I did that on kill too
smh flaming rwf players and then doing the same
gilded oasis
ok whispyr youre grounded
spice spire
I did that on kill too
Was it at the end?
balmy condor
bro kills are always my worst pull
the pull before kurog died was on track to be a rank 3
I beaned the kill
gilded oasis
woof
subtle tundra
idk how to parse on kurog
gilded oasis
we did like 10 pulls last night
subtle tundra
for the love of god i cant do good dmg
gilded oasis
terse orchid
I miss good parses
slim hamlet
for the love of god i cant do good dmg
just click cold blood
terse orchid
I should've quit in bfa
balmy condor
for the love of god i cant do good dmg
with our timings, the kingsbanes were SUPER tight
subtle tundra
dtb?
subtle tundra
my best log was 84
subtle tundra
feeling like i made no mistakes
slim hamlet
good thing we have no choice now 🙂
grim tangle
kurog felt like I could either do good overall but a lot less boss damage and not kill the boss, or do more boss damage and shit overall but actually kill the boss
gilded oasis
I just looked at top logs real quick and they were al still dtb exsang so I stuck that
slim hamlet
no need to think
balmy condor
I just looked at top logs real quick and they were al still dtb exsang so I stuc...
yeh, clowns
dtb was like -3% or something
gilded oasis
fk clowns
slim hamlet
wtf have they done to you
gilded oasis
I was thinking during the pulls I really wanted to CT
slim hamlet
they just doing their job
indigo pollen
so it’s kings now
balmy condor
this russian dude just fucking sent a poison dtb on mythic kurog
slim hamlet
this russian dude just fucking sent a poison dtb on mythic kurog
chad
gilded oasis
my hero
slim hamlet
so many people still playing poison
balmy condor
top logs are actually just idiots 50% of the time
slim hamlet
all star points? 
balmy condor
yea then why tf cant i get
skill issue I guess
lament warren
i sim 74k
balmy condor
cause I'm actually a joke of a player
subtle tundra
your gear is insane bitch
terse orchid
I was thinking during the pulls I really wanted to CT
I get those intrusive thoughts as well. Just do it, fuck it, what's the worst that can happen?
balmy condor
doesn't matter how good my gear is if I'm shit brother
lament warren
except council where i 99
limber lion
Ya'll crazy
lament warren
best fight
slim hamlet
except council where i 99
oh u mean out of 10 people?
lament warren
no i play sub
slim hamlet
ah
gilded oasis
im washed, just waiting for MOP classic
slim hamlet
well gamed then
balmy condor
Ya'll crazy
nice role icon bozo hows it feel
lament warren
he can still play it
balmy condor
blizzard vibe checked the fuck out of you
lament warren
for one more day
balmy condor
yeh idk why there's been no tuning
it's just
"here's the changes"
and that was it
kinda weird
balmy condor
it's not like we didn't see this kingsbane stuff coming
slim hamlet
But then there were also like 3 months in beta 🙂
slim hamlet
I didnt realise until someone said it in here and I called him a liar 🙂
balmy condor
maybe they're waiting on log numbers to tune or something
oblique tangle
Yikes
lament warren
they’re waiting on more heroic logs clearly
slim hamlet
specially when we are 8 weeks in and people are beginning to log my doing dumb shit
oblique tangle
Watching Ret shoot to 4th gave me a chuckle
oblique tangle
with Unholy arcane and ass dropping like bricks
subtle tundra
we should get aoe buff
slim hamlet
i mean, works for many other classes and specs
Frost mage has to be THE point in this
buffing a really good class 5% just because of overall logs