assassination

[balmy condor]

Aight

Can we stop baiting

[lean wing]

zero bait

but trinket is worth

[strange python]

No pandaria dungeons are genuinely shit

[lean wing]

agreed

[balmy condor]

I’m not talking to you, you keep doing your thing

[strange python]

Go do that amber bullshit

[normal olive]

my man is just having a good time

[slim hamlet]

Honestly I feel like temple is the one not awful dungeon

Good choice

All other giga omega hard sucks

[strange python]

Shado pan is okay. Mogu shan too

[slim hamlet]

Lemme see

[strange python]

The rest of the panda dungeon table is horrid

[lean wing]

temple is okay if you have a group who knows how los works

[strange python]

I'd rather do kings rest

[slim hamlet]

Yeah mogushan is prob fine

[lean wing]

i

[cloud moat]

The one with the monkey barrel boss 🤮

[lean wing]

hide in pillar

[slim hamlet]

Feel like the gold boss thingy would suck

[strange python]

Stormstout. Garbage.

[shut owl]

y not brewery?

[lean wing]

this is not our problem..

[slim hamlet]

Scholomance is prob nice tbh

[lean wing]

this is tank problem

tank need to take this boss who does aoe wipe mechanics

to a corner

[slim hamlet]

Brewery is my favourite dung in terms of looks, but I hated it after 3 timewalking dungs, and I feel like it would be same with m+

[strange python]

Dungeons with tank mechanics suck because most tanks are awful

[lean wing]

this is truth

[slim hamlet]

As long as Niuzao temple never becomes m+ I am happy

Fuck that

[strange python]

Ion has said he likes shado pan so mb ur safe

[shut owl]

I recall that at the time brewery felt really free to farm. though timewalking/m+ revivals make things a mess in general as people haven't ever touched the place before

[slim hamlet]

Shado pan probably fine too

Feel like the trash in there is just kind of weird

At least first part

[lean wing]

you get touch from one aoe explosion you ded

ofc you rogue

[slim hamlet]

And also stuff before 2nd boss is just sad

[lean wing]

but yes

[oak sky]

at least shado pan has some nice open areas

thats usually good for m+

[slim hamlet]

Yeah

[oak sky]

the bosses arent bad

[slim hamlet]

And you have some choice

[shut owl]

i can't imagine it being worse than like... motherlode or kings rest with randos

[oak sky]

i think theres a blowup trash tho

[lean wing]

this duung is eZ

[oak sky]

which is bad

[lean wing]

but what i told you

tank must get this guy

[marble hemlock]

fuck mop, just give us cataclysm dungeons

[lean wing]

who make 1 shot

[marble hemlock]

tolvir

shadowfang

[lean wing]

to corner

[slim hamlet]

Please never make Auchindoun an m+ dungeon btw

[shut owl]

oh god. people would implode

[balmy condor]

[lean wing]

XD

[hollow river]

[slim hamlet]

Thought you were gonna fix sleep schedule

smh

[lean wing]

just use cloak lol

lol

[marble hemlock]

youre not my real mom

[normal olive]

who needs sleep anyway

[slim hamlet]

How do you know

[shut owl]

cata dungeons were really cool... cuz they were practically raids on launch lol. I do not want to re-imagine that experience now

[slim hamlet]

But really

Auchindoun

Please never blizzard

[lean wing]

do you want cata dungeons to be in m+

how this would work

[normal olive]

[slim hamlet]

RP-linear-rp-linear-rp-rp-rp

[balmy condor]

I mean you can tell the difference in design from legion onwards

[normal olive]

like the other old dungeons right now?

[balmy condor]

Old dungeons don’t work in m+

[lean wing]

well...

[marble hemlock]

cata dungeons were pretty tight design wise

lots of trash

bosses had quite a few mechanics

[lean wing]

can you see legacy of tyrr mythic + xD

i cant

[shut owl]

I feel like there were some mop dungeons that fit the bill

[slim hamlet]

tbh I feel like temple is pretty good, only thing is running back from 1st boss is kinda weird

[marble hemlock]

dungeon design took a downward trend in mop and wod until legion

but cata dungeons on release were tough

[storm forum]

i cant wait for legacy of tyrr sanguine

thats going to be awful

[lean wing]

just give tricks on tank

[slim hamlet]

You are all boomers

[lean wing]

and lets go

😄

[shut owl]

yes. I definitely spent a few hours in halls night 1

[slim hamlet]

Started in shadowlands

[shut owl]

cuz we had no idea wtf bosses needed to die to progress lol

[hollow river]

you're just learning this?

[balmy condor]

Temple and sbg are awful m+ dungeons, completely linear with little room to do anything interesting

[lean wing]

legacy of tyrr mythic plus im legit not touching

[slim hamlet]

Yeah I guess

[balmy condor]

The biggest choice you ever make in those dungeons is like “well, we can pull these two packs together”

[marble hemlock]

basically every other wod dungeon wouldve been better

[shut owl]

temple and sbg are "simple" m+ dungeons, not good though

[marble hemlock]

hope we get UBRS

[normal olive]

nah i like to run over all the books in sbg just to make it fun

[strange python]

HoV still the worst of the pool

[shut owl]

is there anything even skippable in tjs? lol

[lean wing]

nope

[balmy condor]

HoV is infinitely better than sbg and temple

[strange python]

Couldn't disagree more

[slim hamlet]

HoV is actually crisp dungeon

[lean wing]

jade serpent is kinda linear

[shut owl]

you get to pick which like... 4 packs you want to skip in HoV

[lean wing]

:/

[shut owl]

and what order you wanna do it in

[slim hamlet]

Even tho I always find it rly tight timer compared to other dungs

[shut owl]

cuz some trash is a joke when you've got the double boss speed boost

[lean wing]

no skip for rogues

[strange python]

Linear sucks sure. But HoV has the most overloaded trash packs and bosses

[lean wing]

no

[storm forum]

HoV would be great if it didn't have 5 bosses

[lean wing]

funcy mechanics

[fading wigeon]

Yeah odyn is garbage

[lean wing]

and 2 boss is a

[fading wigeon]

I hate that boss

[shut owl]

HoV just has really long RP dragging it imo

[nocturne current]

HoV is neice. Specially in fortified.

[strange python]

Fenrir is one of the worst designed bosses for m+ I've ever seen

[lean wing]

hov dont get me started

i

[slim hamlet]

Imagine not having rogue/shadowmeld for Fenryr on tyran

[storm forum]

HoV is the first dungeon where i got yelled at for not having gouge on my bars back in legion 🙃

[lean wing]

when i see my key hov

i am like

OH WELL ., FCK

[nocturne current]

Skovald is garbage hit dummie but appart from that, pretty solid

[lean wing]

😦

LOL

[storm forum]

ez io

[slim hamlet]

I like hov

[normal olive]

I'll trade you my 18 NO

[slim hamlet]

Fuck that

[normal olive]

fuck that dungeon

[slim hamlet]

Did 3x 20 NO today alone

[lean wing]

i hate it with passion

[slim hamlet]

No more

[storm forum]

i like NO, but ive also only done like 13s of that place lol

[lean wing]

with guys you know its okay

[nocturne current]

Azure Fortified is the hot garbo.

[lean wing]

but with pug it is a devil asss

[slim hamlet]

Top 3 this patch is AA, RLP and HoV

Like cos too

[normal olive]

fuck cos

[slim hamlet]

😮

[normal olive]

i don't want to farm that ring anymore

[slim hamlet]

Yeah I luckily got done with that pretty early

[lean wing]

dude... i love cos

im old legion rogue

like cos

why hate

[slim hamlet]

Just happy I am not boomkin or some shit having to farm NO

[normal olive]

a friend of mine farmed like 40 NO on his disc priest

got the trinket

[slim hamlet]

It just feels like such a slow dung

[normal olive]

and swapped to restro druid

now he has to farm it again

[slim hamlet]

No matter how fast u go

[normal olive]

[slim hamlet]

xd

[storm forum]

[lean wing]

letts go

[slim hamlet]

There is nothing to get from end of dungeon anymore for me

So now I can actually play what I want

Epic

[normal olive]

i need cos ring, halls belt and maybe the puzzlebox if i hate myself enough

[lean wing]

i have a good question

how you get big dick

to do +20

[slim hamlet]

Yeah only thing I can get is HoV belt too, but I have smbg right now which is basically same

[slim hamlet]

just do it

[lean wing]

just farm it ?

[normal olive]

gonna craft a belt with the next spark just because i prolly won't get the HoV one

[lean wing]

how to be big dick

[winter gale]

Is Box + Icon a good combo?

[slim hamlet]

I have done ~25 HoV and only gotten necks

[winter gale]

Dunno how they sim Icon , I think there is 1 or 2 more in my guild

[lean wing]

okay

no

25 is too much

please

[slim hamlet]

25 keys

not +25

[lean wing]

20 is max

in my small mind

[normal olive]

got the crit trinket on my second run so i'm happy with my HoV luck so far

[slim hamlet]

My tank has gotten the trink 3 times

All slightly higher ilvl so he couldnt trade

smh

[normal olive]

lmao

haven't seen the tank trinket a single time yet

[slim hamlet]

Also had one guy I play with a bit get cos ring 2 times and a fucking mage get it 1 time before I got it

madge

[lean wing]

i got this raid trinket

channel gg dps but than

is PEPEGA

[normal olive]

a buddy has the ring 3 times and one of them is socket + leech

[slim hamlet]

Holy shit I cant wait to loot mythic eggnog ring in vault next week

[lean wing]

and

[slim hamlet]

Easy mode for him

[normal olive]

got the ring this week in my vault

after getting the HC one 2 weeks before

[lean wing]

have you read post about ruby whelp ?

[slim hamlet]

I have always only gotten good loot in my lower ilvl spots

[lean wing]

do you think its pepega tooo ?

[slim hamlet]

Surely next week is the redemption

[slim hamlet]

No one knows

[lean wing]

nobody know

for now

[normal olive]

only had good vaults so far, 2x set piece, and 2x the eranog ring

[lean wing]

but we will find a way

[slim hamlet]

Yeah I have gotten 3 set and 1x puzzle box

[lean wing]

this trinket

is so troll

[slim hamlet]

All 418

The 1 spot I didnt get +20 always

[lean wing]

loook.

i use it every day

since

[normal olive]

my stuff has been 415 so far because i don't have people to run 20s with

[lean wing]

i got it

for dps

[normal olive]

the ones i run them with end up in 2 hours + keys

[lean wing]

and it

[normal olive]

[lean wing]

pros me 2k haste

[slim hamlet]

I have done like 15 20's

[lean wing]

oke

[slim hamlet]

not a single timed

Because I suck ass

[normal olive]

oof

[lean wing]

nevermind im sorrry

[slim hamlet]

tbf we got robbed of our first timed today

[lean wing]

just testing

[normal olive]

we spent 2 hours and 15 minutes in a 16 AV first week

that stuff was a pain

[slim hamlet]

1 min over time on NO and we lost at least 2 min to combat bug

[slim hamlet]

ew

Saw so many on reddit posting their 24 hour adventure in a single dung

[normal olive]

we had a i think 369 monk in there

[slim hamlet]

Luckily didnt experience that

[lean wing]

its ok

[normal olive]

and the monk got a weapon from the dungeon and a weapon in his vault because of it

[lean wing]

do any rogue know what is golad + tirosh ?

[slim hamlet]

outskilled

[lean wing]

honest question

do you know ?

golad + tirosh black prince

wrathion

[slim hamlet]

I legit have 0 idea what you're on about

[lean wing]

best xmog in game

for the

legendary daggers

anyone who is a real rogue

should know this by know

[slim hamlet]

[lean wing]

now

what is shit ? spine of deathwing

[slim hamlet]

This u?

[lean wing]

xDDDD

i think assa is noice !

i have 3 spec

3 of them are dps

pirate rogue is a

;dddddddddddd

no

no

sub is a

[teal bloom]

[lean wing]

sub is a madahaka

[echo heath]

Sub was amazing in Burning Crusade

[lean wing]

TRUE

i looove

enjoy

omfg

sub beast

[echo heath]

HARP will always be best ever rogue playstyle

[lean wing]

i love now

now you have 2 times vanish

this is this

😄

retail is something different

you have PVP on a DUCK

or

i just cant belive

pshero lived through

whole opener from assa rogue

XDDDDDDDDDDDD

this is just straight up kill ........

IF

assa oppens on you

this is no 2 choice

[topaz bluff]

I think he's being exsanguinated, someone help him?

[lean wing]

fuck of or die

might be

this is

open world

so we dont know exact

[slim hamlet]

wait a sec

[lean wing]

but it was fucking savage

[slim hamlet]

arent u the :starge guy?

Or is that someone else

[charred wraith]

[slim hamlet]

I feel like he def is the :starge guy

[lean wing]

if you go at bulgarian rogue

bring out bombs and all

you have

no mercy

i know assa got cucked like a bitch boi

but he was a bad player

show me your ravenhold teleport

and i will call you a rogue

bułgar is bad

xD

[random fossil]

Is cowl without the ring terrible?

[lean wing]

ring from melandrus is the fucking bis

and its

beside your set piece

thing to upgrade

[cloud moat]

Someone please explain this vanish mechanic to me. Tried it again yesterday and just couldn't get it to work properly. Maybe I vanished too late or someone ran to Africa to take the first leap idk

Ps. Fuck HoV

Can't count the amount of disbands I've had on HoV to tank dying to the orbs mechanic or the shield blast

[lean wing]

WHY ? cause you deal so many auto attacks

this ring makes your dps

alot best

for outlaw

probably its bis

[humble kayak]

Sorry if it's been asked before, I'm just getting into DF. Is there an optimized tree/spec for each boss in raid?

[cloud moat]

Honestly would love to see the spider dungeons from WotLK to return as M+

[marble hemlock]

you vanish while he is mid air. so if youre the first target by being furthest away, simply vanish after he finishes his cast-bar

[cloud moat]

I swear that doesn't fucking work lol

[marble hemlock]

it does

[cloud moat]

He jumps on me and applies the dot every time

[charred wraith]

you vanish too late

[cloud moat]

Even though I vanished

[charred wraith]

or idk

[marble hemlock]

then you vanished either too late or too early

[charred wraith]

it has to leap at you

[cloud moat]

Well I vanish while he's midair and far from reaching me

[marble hemlock]

are you the actual target of the jump?

or is he jumping someone else before he jumps you

[mystic fractal]

Do you pre run out to guarantee being furthest?

[marble hemlock]

the boss always jumps to the furthest target each jump. so if you wanna vanish, ideally everybody else stays in melee. ofc that means if you fuck it up, its basically a guaranteed wipe

[cloud moat]

I'm probably doing it wrong and this is the case. Otherwise I have no fucking idea what's going on anymore

[marble hemlock]

but it also makes it super easy doing the vanish

[lean wing]

you can allways use pinned ones

or just go rogue and create your own

build

[slim hamlet]

someone needs to stop this man

[lean wing]

just a rogue passing by

[charred wraith]

[lean wing]

😛

look

i did not asasination on bald thrall

[cloud moat]

🫂

[marble hemlock]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SnappyPluckyMelonOMGScoots-mAc6cZ9T7SaRzE6P

just, ya know, vanish/meld when hes on his way to you

[lean wing]

i think it was GG from your side

[marble hemlock]

if everybody else stays in, you just run out, wait for ravenous leap cast to finish, press R

[balmy condor]

Is that nelf

I can’t tell

[lean wing]

and you can use evasion to put middle finger to this dof

[marble hemlock]

its not

[lean wing]

sog

[marble hemlock]

ahve to stay belf for raszageth

[balmy condor]

[lean wing]

eZ life as rogue

[balmy condor]

Just be in a slow enough guild seli

That way you don’t have to worry

It’ll be giga nerfed by the time we get there

[marble hemlock]

id rather have 4set

[lean wing]

you go talent escape death ?

if no you are trolling

[cloud moat]

Tyvm for the video. Skill issue it seems like for me

[balmy condor]

Who are you talking to

[marble hemlock]

its a lot easier if nobody else runs out

so you guarantee youre the first jump

[cloud moat]

Yeah, pugs really like to run to the hills with the mark

[marble hemlock]

anyway

time for bedge

whispyr youre cute

dont let anybody tell you otherwise

[lean wing]

you might be good but you know

no second life

its troll

[balmy condor]

that.... wasn't my question

I was asking who you're talking to

[lean wing]

ah

[balmy condor]

because you're just saying things not related to any conversation

[lean wing]

yeah sebek told me you good

[balmy condor]

and I'm very confused

[lean wing]

you good man

[balmy condor]

[cloud moat]

🫂

[lean wing]

i like you actually =3

please dont troll my key

joking

abit

😛

give me tank who is perfecto

sorry

[slim hamlet]

This guy has been going for over an hour

He's unstoppable

[agile geode]

Guys, on kurog last phase Is worth to keep garrote and rupture on ice add while blasting boss?

Kurog mythic

[lean wing]

has kurog adds ? no ? than blast ST

[agile geode]

SBS aswell ofc

[lean wing]

just dont give a fuck man

or i

[agile geode]

Yes It has a big one

[lean wing]

my raid is struggle with kurog

[agile geode]

Wich isnt going to die neither focus

[lean wing]

but if i were in your situation

i would just blast him

[slim hamlet]

Guess it depends on if u need it to die quicker

I would but then I also got flamed for putting dots on captain on eggnog

so idk

[agile geode]

1 bleed should be maintaned ofc for more st blasting

Was Just asking if Is worth to keep another one

[lean wing]

no problem

ive had this delusion since raiding mythic legion

it comes to as assa

[slim hamlet]

I love that raid

[lean wing]

OMGG

johan

krossus

[versed canopy]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NV7hfjb9RHmWAFtc#fight=22&type=damage-done
Here are my logs, what could i do better or what am i doing wrong?

[lean wing]

burning bridges

[slim hamlet]

!logs

[lean wing]

your main target

[slim hamlet]

wait

[lean wing]

must be bleed

[slim hamlet]

I didnt know it just insta made it

[lean wing]

garro

[slim hamlet]

How do I undo

Oh well you are in there now

[lean wing]

and snapping envenoms

what buuld are you rinnin ?

[versed canopy]

DTB

what is snapping envenom

[cloud moat]

[slim hamlet]

Please dont

Read anything he says

And expect it to make sence

[lean wing]

yes

i just feel like

snapping envenom in

is nice

but you must understand

echoing reprimand aoe

[balmy condor]

idk what bro is saying but he's cooking something up

[slim hamlet]

@balmy condor Can you explain this new tech?

[lean wing]

im cooking

[slim hamlet]

He has been cooking for an hour

Cant wait to taste

[versed canopy]

so what am i doing wrong accoridn to logs

[balmy condor]

I cannot, I haven't been able to understand a single word he's said in the last hour

[lean wing]

im cooking tuskarr supe

now you making a fun of me

[lament warren]

[lean wing]

breaking my balls

[slim hamlet]

Get them stitched

[lament warren]

hahahahahahaha

[lean wing]

hahah

[balmy condor]

I'm not trying to make fun of you, I actually just have no clue what you're talking about

[lean wing]

oki

[balmy condor]

every time I look you're just saying things to no one

[slim hamlet]

As you said yourself

He is cooking

[charred wraith]

sounds scary and painful

[balmy condor]

it's like there's some invisible person I can't see on the other side of the conversation

[lean wing]

this build is cooking

please no joke

from me

[slim hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/califlower-cooking-gif-18315501

[lean wing]

i will give evidence

LOL

what im doing is

cooking new ez build

i not need sooo many openers

fk it

[charred wraith]

thats dtb 🪤

[severe oyster]

Let em cook. Maybe he comes up with secret tech

[lean wing]

i hate

[topaz bluff]

He's what I envision every player with <name>-Ragnaros to be

[lean wing]

😄

nooo

actualy is

burning legion

aka worst servidor

[slim hamlet]

This is still the best build I have cooked

[lean wing]

WOW

[slim hamlet]

for m+

[lean wing]

and

no teee

you put zoldrick

ni

[slim hamlet]

I also have one for st if u want

[lean wing]

question

do you use this new poisio ?

poison

how do you manage it

[slim hamlet]

this for st

[hollow river]

remove deathmark

[slim hamlet]

[charred wraith]

can you

uncook those somehow

[lean wing]

HAHAH

[slim hamlet]

I can't

[hollow river]

Amplifying poison? it's passive

[lean wing]

never remove deathmark

[slim hamlet]

Trust me

we simmed

We call it "minminning"

[lean wing]

dude you

[slim hamlet]

No

What is done is done

[lean wing]

what damage you doing with this build on pull

30 k?

[slim hamlet]

29k max

[lean wing]

okay

[slim hamlet]

We got it under the 30k mark

Nevermind

[lean wing]

could be done

[slim hamlet]

lower than 29k

[minor valve]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[teal bloom]

Real secret tech is leveling 1-70 and not spending a single talent point

[lean wing]

actually this is nice

[brazen zodiac]

[lean wing]

kingsbane (old legion leg)

[brazen zodiac]

[slim hamlet]

Secret tech is just not playing the game

[lean wing]

monkaS

i am enjoyer

less butttons to press

its

i know

kb combo is gg

but let me be normal

[slim hamlet]

So when does this guy get orange name?

[lean wing]

hard to know

[slim hamlet]

I don't think this choice is available

Need DLC or something

[lean wing]

nooo

please

if you want to spam

go play pirate rogue

we are assa

[teal bloom]

True

[charred wraith]

ass rogue*

[lean wing]

true

[teal bloom]

Pirate rogue bad assa rogue good

[slim hamlet]

sub rogue?

[lean wing]

pirate rogue is

pepega

sub is ok but low dmg

[teal bloom]

Truer words haven't ever been said

[slim hamlet]

[charred wraith]

this is so amusing

[lean wing]

xd

[slim hamlet]

Isn't sub simming highest in everything besides 2 targets actually?

[lean wing]

yes i know because i am from ravenhold... not discord

the guild of rogues

[topaz bluff]

Yes, leave rogues alone and nerf dks/mages please. This guy has spoken.

[slim hamlet]

10% aura nerf next reset

and u know it

[teal bloom]

Nerf boomkins and warlocks

[slim hamlet]

Nerf surv hunters

[lean wing]

bro

[teal bloom]

D:

[slim hamlet]

Fuck em

[balmy condor]

bro how are you guys still shitposting about this

[slim hamlet]

They had their time in season 4 sl

no more

[lean wing]

nerf kul tirans because they have a FAT BELLY !

[slim hamlet]

Excuse me

[charred wraith]

thats sounds like the cutthroat highway man pasta

[slim hamlet]

Who are you to call us shitposters

[lean wing]

no

[slim hamlet]

This is an intelectuail conversation (I have no idea how to spell that word)

[lean wing]

i want horde kul tiran rogue

[teal bloom]

I am having very good time at 4:57 in the morning

[balmy condor]

I'm like inches away from just slapping a slow mode on and waiting for it to end

[charred wraith]

just find happiness in life

[slim hamlet]

You know that wont even fix it

He will be here

Night and day

[lean wing]

yes chill

i tried classis wow

[slim hamlet]

Nice

[steel spire]

Yes chef

[lean wing]

but cloak is shit

[slim hamlet]

Did you get the DLC?

[lean wing]

in classic

[brazen zodiac]

huh

[lean wing]

ANDY

[teal bloom]

Mutilate rogue

[balmy condor]

I'm trying to, and I think the happiness I'm finding would be this channel not being a shitfest

[lean wing]

andy rogue

pepeg

you can now fight on ducks on retail

you can fight mounting a duck

[slim hamlet]

Just looked back at the community tier list by max

Arcane mages spat kinda facts

[topaz bluff]

Whispyr while you're browsing. Does O.5 change the value of sepsis at all to be competitive for any of the specs, or is it still trash tuned?

[lean wing]

WHERE IS ROGUE ?

[slim hamlet]

MM hunter too

[lean wing]

WOW

gg

where is rogue

[versed canopy]

where is outlaw and sub?

[slim hamlet]

I am not done with vid

2 sec

[balmy condor]

it's almost competitive, but the playstyle alone is probably enough to invalidate the talent by itself

[royal lantern]

how long are you using this channel allready

[lean wing]

sub tier b 😄

[royal lantern]

you should be used to doomers

[slim hamlet]

Did sub get buffed after, or was this epic sandbag gaming

[royal lantern]

tier lists in a nutshell

[balmy condor]

its not even doomers it's just actual gibberish

[royal lantern]

sub is "better" then assa/outlaw for most situations=B tier

[lean wing]

HAHAHAH

[slim hamlet]

I mean

Arcane mages in D

[lean wing]

OMG

[slim hamlet]

Lower than surv

[teal bloom]

[royal lantern]

we need a tier list tier list

[slim hamlet]

Max already made that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPU4Y0O55fI

[lean wing]

i told you before xD

sub is not so strong

but its a lovely

class

[steel spire]

Chef Cook up a spec for sub please

[lean wing]

YES CHEF

LETS COOK

SOME SOUP

[slim hamlet]

I got you

[lean wing]

FOR

[slim hamlet]

1 min

[lean wing]

YES CHEF

[slim hamlet]

m+ or st?

[steel spire]

M+ xd

[slim hamlet]

Alright good

Then we can get lots of utility

[versed canopy]

so @slim hamlet got any assassination tips for me?

[slim hamlet]

Absolutely none

[lean wing]

I HAVE

overall when you simulation your cxharacter

it does

[slim hamlet]

My name doesnt mean I actually know anything

It's an illusion

[lean wing]

pop prepot

what are you hiding ?

[teal bloom]

I think it's hiding an outlaw player

[lean wing]

you need to know your statistic weight

for example for pve ?

you need your crit 30 percent

haste 20

its ez as that

and it depends

on your items

[teal bloom]

Stats are just an illusion, true strength comes from your heart

[lean wing]

yes this is true

you feel it

when you have

not enout haste

or so

Janis is 100 true

20 percent haste

pve

[slim hamlet]

here u go

[lean wing]

makes you feel

[slim hamlet]

Was a hard one

compared to sin

[steel spire]

Chef this one is ready for 20s thank you

[teal bloom]

Cringe damage minmaxer vs chad utility enjoyer

[lean wing]

LOL you have taken the rotten path

[slim hamlet]

[lean wing]

yess

janiss

[slim hamlet]

This will be in world first +30

mark my words

[steel spire]

Acro strikes is very mvp here

[lean wing]

utility enjoyer

[balmy condor]

I'm losing brain cells alarmingly fast

[slim hamlet]

Just u wait

Currently cooking outlaw

[brazen zodiac]

[lean wing]

lets go sim

i will give you my build

40k dps

😄

no extra buttons

HAHAHAH

[slim hamlet]

oh shit

[lean wing]

giga chad

[slim hamlet]

outlaw is so easy to minmin for m+

simply dont take blade flurry

[lean wing]

no kb no exang

xd

[slim hamlet]

ah fuck

U have to

sadge

[balmy condor]

the last 1000 messages in here have actually just been the most hollow meaningless ramblings I have ever read

it's gotta be a new record

competing with the devoker guide

[slim hamlet]

Is this good content?

[spice spire]

Np

[slim hamlet]

Something worth reading?

[balmy condor]

I would've told you it's not worth reading about 2 hours ago

but compared to this?

[flint pond]

I got some good content right here

[slim hamlet]

oh

gottem

get fuckd

Wait

I am the one who got fuckd

[spice spire]

Not a lot of content is there?

[flint pond]

no

[spice spire]

[slim hamlet]

[lean wing]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/chqwZEZ8d89acgfqmbW1wW

[spice spire]

If Zac were up I’d ping him to do my bidding for me

[lean wing]

41 K DPS

[balmy condor]

he was like 25 min ago

[lean wing]

WITHOUT DOG

AND CAT

[slim hamlet]

Why is outlaw cooking so hard

[balmy condor]

bro

my eyes

what is this

[spice spire]

Yeah I don’t wanna accidentally wake him to post

[lean wing]

bro

[slim hamlet]

Seems pretty good

[lean wing]

this is not always true ; D

you need gouge

for m_

[spice spire]

What is he cooking

[slim hamlet]

sims 13k higher than mine

[teal bloom]

It's a gigachad build

[lean wing]

WHAT ARE YOU COOKING

[balmy condor]

I thought I taught this channel better

[lean wing]

THIS BUILD

is nice

[spice spire]

Nice is not the word i’d use

[slim hamlet]

What do you guys think about this one for m+

[lean wing]

LOL

[balmy condor]

aight I'm slow moding

this ain't it chief

[slim hamlet]

No dad

[spice spire]

That’s what I’m thinking

[lean wing]

PLEASE DAD NO BEAT ME

[teal bloom]

[steel spire]

needs more dice talents for gamba

[spice spire]

Too much there Chief

Let’s knock it off about 30%

Slow mode

[slim hamlet]

Sadge just wasted my 5 min shitpost timer on an emote

[balmy condor]

y'all can't figure out how to have a single productive conversation in 2 hours

I would start muting people

but I'd have to mute like 6 people

so we're gonna try this first

and see what happens

[brazen zodiac]

👍

[jaunty lotus]

If you did that we would be out of assassination rogues though

[gusty mirage]

good

[spice spire]

Damn it really be your own

[lean wing]

rogues are not playing for the horde or allliance btw

[teal bloom]

Good night all

[slim hamlet]

gn 🙂

[wheat plank]

is this right? without subterfuge

[balmy condor]

yes, there's a section about double garroting in opener in the faq

it's worth it because they run shrouded

[rocky ruin]

how long do log requests usually take? i submitted one on the 10th, not sure how backlogged it is though, responding in here cause slow mode, my overall parse says its low and ppl keep telling me to not look at ilvl parse @coral willow

[balmy condor]

entirely depends on the availability of people. No one's getting paid to log review so there's no schedule or anything about what logs get reviewed when

[coral willow]

you got a 98 for your ilvl, you did fine

[burnt latch]

What the hell happened here whys the channel on slow mode

[valid coral]

Why outlaw and sub beat assa on mythic terros?

[balmy condor]

people decided to shitpost for almost 2 hours straight and I was feeling generous enough to not mute them

[rocky ruin]

it seems, at least to me that all the rogue specs are essetially equal, this is based on pure observation not sims

[brazen zodiac]

he was feeling very very generous

[burnt latch]

Ah I would say shame on them but im lowkey sad i missed out on it myself

[brazen zodiac]

nope, no idea who that is!

[coral willow]

different fights favor different specs

[topaz bluff]

AP+IC anticipated to be the go to M+ spec or a variation of DTB? I feel kind of lost without the standard KB+IC setup.

[balmy condor]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[balmy condor]

there's a ptr page

can see the comparisons there

[topaz bluff]

Awesome, I didn't know the ptr page was up. ❤️

[lean wing]

why are you are so serious ?

are you rogue or perse plauer

:/

[brazen zodiac]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[lean wing]

sad

[wheat plank]

thanks!

[coral willow]

welp, there goes the burst 😦

[brazen zodiac]

@rocky ruin theres a section that shows builds on that spreadsheet, go sim em

[rocky ruin]

was just meaning preference, which 1 u like more not really dps

[lean wing]

Zebedin#2449 please send me questions regarding rogue

based

[topaz bluff]

With the mention that the APL for AP isn't finalized does that mean likely under/over performing, or just don't know in general?

[rocky ruin]

huh?

[balmy condor]

underperforming

[coral willow]

is the APL for ptr changes on the github, i didn't see it

[balmy condor]

the APL hasn't changed

[lean wing]

lol i raided +20 in legion i dont know what the fuck apl is

XD

ignorant ?:

or just noob.

[coral willow]

you wouldn't change the condition to use shiv with the changes?

[gusty mirage]

bro, you good? or what

[lean wing]

well

[dense jetty]

Sigh

[lean wing]

in legion +20 was the thing

[coral willow]

i guess on CD make sense still, but it seems like you'd want to line it up with deathmark at the least

[lean wing]

nowadaus

now is a

fack off

[balmy condor]

shiv is already basically on cooldown, and 1 charge gets held for deathmark in most situations

it's kinda hard to do much more

could hold both charges

which is an idea

[brazen zodiac]

ice! <3

[slow marsh]

Tell me why I always seem to lurk at the perfect times

[balmy condor]

could cold blood -> shiv, which is an idea

[lean wing]

this is good

because

[brazen zodiac]

you play the new season of LoL by chance? ;o

[balmy condor]

there's also some stuff like holding for a future pack or something

[lean wing]

rogue discord i think

is the best

[balmy condor]

but that's a little more out there

[lean wing]

no toxic

[gusty mirage]

[lean wing]

why be toxix when we have a

[balmy condor]

but generally there's not really much there aside from "just shiv"

[slow marsh]

I always find myself sucked in somehow or another

[lean wing]

toxic poision

[coral willow]

yeah, you'd have to have estimated time to live on so much stuff to hold for packs

[lean wing]

xDDDDDDD

hard to be toxic

[dense jetty]

What are you even talking about lmao

[coral willow]

i hear ya

[nocturne current]

[balmy condor]

it's actually quite easy to be toxic, here's an example: please shut the fuck up no one is talking to you

[lean wing]

this is from you

[brazen zodiac]

i played three games of yuumi, max'd q, almost got a penta lul.

good thing she got absolutely gutted, lol.

[balmy condor]

#league-of-legends is a thing

there's enough off topic in this channel today to last a week

kinda sick of it rn

[brazen zodiac]

oh i actually didnt know that lol sorry.

[oak sky]

im so reformed man

[lean wing]

NO NEVER

[balmy condor]

all good, normall wouldn't care, but it ain't a good night

[oak sky]

i used to be the most off topic assassinationer ever

[lean wing]

league of legends

play shaco

[brazen zodiac]

i feel like that was notrickz xD

[nocturne current]

Whisps' going to have a stroke tonight

[lean wing]

you are probably an american

.........

i told you as europeam

[balmy condor]

I had to slow mode cause it was 2 hours of gibberish and brain dead sims for the lowest dps

[lean wing]

this is chill

[balmy condor]

it wasn't even assassination

and then I turn slow mode off

and we're right back to it

[slow marsh]

To be honest it's the shit like this that makes me want to play again. It's not even the game

[brazen zodiac]

lol thats what that shit was? i tabbed in for 2 seconds and saw the "40k" numbers lul

[lean wing]

THIS TIME

[coral willow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-did-ill-do-it-again-dont-tempt-me-jon-taffer-bar-rescue-gif-10202892

[lean wing]

americans or russians are in chat

FAK

[coral willow]

whispyr right now

[lean wing]

LAJ LAJ LALALA

fak it

[balmy condor]

bro seriously. Stop it

[lean wing]

my damage is DOG llaalallajalajajalajaja

xdddddddd

[balmy condor]

no, slow mode is channel only

[lean wing]

my dps is serious dog LAJ LAJLALALALA

andrew tate

props

xddddd

[nocturne current]

Jeeves is going to have a blast today later on.

[oak sky]

oh did you quit

[oak sky]

where did this even come from

[lean wing]

dude

[oak sky]

bro needs to chill

[brazen zodiac]

can u get rid of him now plz

[lean wing]

SHUT THIS BAR

RIGHT NOW

[gusty mirage]

!mute @lean wing 24h enjoy your break

[balmy condor]

oxi

I was typing it out

[coral willow]

lol

[gusty mirage]

I had it typed out for 10 minutes

[balmy condor]

and you didn't type a reason more than "enjoy your break"

[oak sky]

kojack reaction

[balmy condor]

we talked about this man

[oak sky]

holy

[nocturne current]

I was actually surprised it lasted that long.

[slow marsh]

I would say I guess I didn't troll hard enough but I see stuff like that guy and realize people were probably relieved I've been absent

[nocturne current]

Now back to hating exsang

[brazen zodiac]

its time for ur return >:)

[oak sky]

its just a life goes on thing

this discord is basically the stranger

[slow marsh]

Oh fo sho

[topaz bluff]

Any theory/chance if AP finally makes it worth using CT on single target, or is the (current) closeness more of a dtb thing?

Sorry if I'm asking too many ptr related questions that might have been covered already. Getting home from work next week and a little behind on the updates and anticipated changes other than the quick cap in the pin.

[coral willow]

i saw some top parses with DTB/Exsang, which surprised me

[oak sky]

Dtb exsang is good

[rocky ruin]

but exsang is nice :(

[balmy condor]

been considered, not looking like it

(thank fucking christ)

[lament warren]

st ct based

[slow marsh]

Did someone say CT in ST???

Time to resub

[slow viper]

Anyone able to look at my logs and tell me what im doing wrong?!logs

!logs

[hollow river]

[brazen zodiac]

much love <3

[stray mural]

did some soul searching and changed some talents. feels better for 402.

16 av

[balmy condor]

nice

[brazen zodiac]

good stuff 👍

[oak sky]

Cant wait for another bleed tier set next tier

That would never lead to ct in st

[remote heath]

[pure spoke]

Is the opener with box just the same across all builds but you box just before deathmark?

[balmy condor]

10.1 tier set actually already leaked. They're putting active abilities on them

2 set: Learn the Ability "Speedy Bleedy", increasing the tick rate of your active bleeds by 80% (3 min cooldown)
4 set: Reduces Speedy Bleedy's cooldown to 45 seconds and now increases tick rate by 100%

[marsh rover]

which phial do you use? wohead says elemtnal chaos, which icy viens says tepid vers

[balmy condor]

either is fine

[vapid sierra]

speedy bleed is just exsang?

[balmy condor]

wow, someone understood the punchline, very impressive

[vapid sierra]

wait was i right

is that just a troll?

WAIT I WAS RIGHT

[balmy condor]

most intelligent outlaw rogue I've ever seen tbh

[vapid sierra]

[oak sky]

Wow thats crazy, looks like an ability that would never get nerfed, changed, or reworked at any point in the game's history

Might even be loved by the community

[balmy condor]

I'm sure it's not super unintuitive and janky

I mean, it's blizzard we're talking about right

[vapid sierra]

when has blizzard ever fucked us over?

[balmy condor]

they would never put an effect on an item that can't be understood without running a chat script and combing over datamined spell data

[vapid sierra]

you have a smartphone right?

all the data you need is on there

[balmy condor]

honestly the most sigma move of blizzard to copy paste IQD but somehow make it even jankier

[topaz bluff]

Or understand how to even "train" said items? Hehe, that's the best part though! All the mystery.

[balmy condor]

I wouldn't have the balls to fuck the community over like that

[oak sky]

And you have to engage with the world every day to make it work

[brazen zodiac]

i believed tbh.

[balmy condor]

you believed "Speedy Bleedy"

[oak sky]

One day we get a tier set that just makes ct better than envenom always

So we spam it in st

Lmao

[brazen zodiac]

i believe blizzard would put something as stupid as this yeah

[balmy condor]

bleed increases also count towards CT's instant damage

[vapid sierra]

do we maintain ct on st?