assassination

[royal lantern]

with embelishment not really

[brazen zodiac]

it increases the effects of decay-specific gear by 100%

[royal lantern]

but like, you want a good weapon asap

[heavy trail]

Do you guys have a recommended WA set for assassination?

[static coral]

ty.

[grim jay]

Afenars

[cunning surge]

Afenars isn't bad at all
I started using Luxthos for ease of customization, but both are good options

[grim jay]

Afenar just looks better tho. Can add stuff yourself aswell

[tough ferry]

Out of curiosity, for all non raid trinkets - what's best for ST damage on sin?

Unsure if bis list is up to date on sites

[cunning surge]

Honestly agreed, I really like the aesthetic that their WA give
Afenar does feel more..."Plain"

[cunning surge]

I think the general consensus for NON-RAID trinkets would be Puzzle Box for sure, not sure about a 2nd option for ST tho

[heavy trail]

@grim jay Yeah looks nice. Just a bit small combo points will try to tweak it thanks

[covert charm]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[torpid sparrow]

So i came back last week after a long break,after denatrius,d’armes mm plus and crafted both dagger and lariat with embellishement,was it a mistake ? u all talking about that coxal

[royal lantern]

What

[brazen zodiac]

sorry r u saying u have 2 crafted daggers + lariat? whats ur 4th crafted i couldnt understand

[flint tusk]

Hunger of the pack from Halls of valor is simming best from what i have seen

[tough ferry]

I have a 392 puzzle box, still worth using?

[brazen zodiac]

thats a sim to check kinda thing

[tough ferry]

Over a 398 whetstone?

[flint tusk]

i mean you can upgrade it.

don't forget that

[tough ferry]

gotcha

[torpid sparrow]

No i crafted 1 dagger and lariat but it seems like u all crafted the cowl instead of the dagger.feeling stupid i might have wasted 150 k gold

[tough ferry]

people are actually crafting helm?

oop.

[cunning surge]

tbh I use a 392 Box in raid still and it works really well, sims the most for me overall

[cunning surge]

Oh yeah, that would be the best 2nd option probably, fat amount of crit

[tough ferry]

yeah until some a**hole decides to pull early before pulltime

and you get caught with your paints down

out of stealth

[cunning surge]

Oh I don't use Puzzle Box pre-pull anymore

I use it immediately after Echoing in the opener

[tough ferry]

does more then?

hmm

[royal lantern]

dagger is litearlly the most important craft

unless you got a 421 weapon allready

[cunning surge]

Gets the full duration for your Exsang'd bleeds + Deathmark

[tough ferry]

thought that would be wasting time on cds?

[brazen zodiac]

well both of those items are very very important so i think ur ok

dont think u wasted anything gamer

[tough ferry]

honestly I've been running the dragon tempest build for st

is the other one actually simming way higher or just a tiny bit?

[cunning surge]

I thought so too? But most of the guides and people here say to use it before DM, but I kinda adjust a little bit

Oh I just run Kingsbane because I like it generally, I think it's a little behind, but that might change come the talent changes

Gonna be team DTB after that

[royal lantern]

until you do raza

and are kb again

[cunning surge]

But yeah if you're using DTB, right before Death Mark is a good spot

True true

[flint tusk]

there is zero point using puzzle box prepull you're wasting like 6 seconds of the trinkets buff on setup

[north basin]

Guys how cowl and ring working together? Do they empower eachover or?

[flint tusk]

asuming you don't get caught out of stealth

[cunning surge]

Cowl works as an activator for the ring

[north basin]

Hmm but i think there is nothing mentioned in description of cowl..

Iam wrong?

[cunning surge]

Cowl deals fire damage around you every 3 seconds

Should be in the description of it

[cunning surge]

Thank you, Kilrathal

[earnest imp]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[north basin]

So how it activates ring?

[cunning surge]

Ring only procs off of Fire Damage

[torpid sparrow]

So what is the deal with the cowl?u go for it once u got high ilvl regular daggers ? or u just craft it without embellish ?sry for the stupid questions i dont understand everything bout that crafting deal,it wasnt there before i stipes

[royal lantern]

cus....its fire dmg......?

[north basin]

Aaaaaa

Now gotcha

Ty

[cunning surge]

[north basin]

Was sure cowl and ring do same effect

Just add some fire damage

[earnest imp]

Wheatstone not good for Assa?

[royal lantern]

dagger->lariat->cowl->use Sparks to fill low ilvl slots imo

[flint tusk]

nope ring basically just GIGATurbochad's the aoe firedamage the cowl does

[torpid sparrow]

So u use it to proc the fire ring of the raid?

[royal lantern]

yes

[cunning surge]

I use Whetstone in M+, really nice since you just activate it every 2 minutes, does the same damage if 1, or 20 enemies are around

Don't have to plan for it

[grim jay]

MH atleast

[flint tusk]

cries in Storm eateer's boon

[cunning surge]

I want a Boon so bad lmao

[royal lantern]

well duh, OH is the meme slot

[cunning surge]

It's probably the last trinket I'm missing, outside of Grieftorch

[torpid sparrow]

Ok so i can just craft a regular one for the proc and use my 3 rd spark on the food embellish

[north basin]

I have dagger lariat and cowl, what next? Another dagger in oh? All other gear 378-385)

[flint tusk]

you better get those focus step macros and vanish timing on point then. you're gonna need it

[grim jay]

Many people dont know OH is less important I guess

[royal lantern]

fill no-tier slots

[tough ferry]

curious is storm eaters boon the same

same dmg if its just 1?

[flint tusk]

yeh

[cunning surge]

Yeah I don't want to die like 3 seconds after activating, man that would feel bad

[tough ferry]

so i should probably be rocking that then.

[grim jay]

I dont use step macros for example

[royal lantern]

belt/boots/wrist/cloak

[north basin]

Ok ty

[balmy condor]

what are you doing step-macro

[royal lantern]

how was vault whisp

[cunning surge]

I do have some friends who run Whetstone and Boon, but that's mostly cause they are unlucky and can't get a Pack to drop for them

[balmy condor]

dog

[grim jay]

My stepmacro is stuck in the washer

[balmy condor]

I'm in puzzle box hell atm

[royal lantern]

408box here

[grim jay]

415 here

[cunning surge]

392

I really need to pump it with Valor but I was seeing if Vault would be nice, no dice

[royal lantern]

used all valor on a cos ring

[cunning surge]

That's where all of mine has gone

[royal lantern]

and then dropped a cos ring with socket

[cunning surge]

[grim jay]

I still didnt drop one

Literally no CoS Ring and no bracers so far

382 bracer Gang unite

[turbid heath]

what bracers you after?

[grim jay]

408 GS tho, not that I'm actually slacking

[paper pawn]

does the crafted helm need embellishment for the fire dmg?

[glass junco]

Is there any reason to not use toxified patch?

[cunning surge]

It's pre-embellished, so yeah it takes up a slot for Embellishment

[paper pawn]

I see, thank you

[turbid heath]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[grim jay]

The other options are better

[bitter helm]

what do you think about running this build on full single target raid bosses?

[glass junco]

i mean, i have a 421 tier set on head, and i already have weapons, and boots sim best for me

[grim jay]

Raid or HoV prolly

[glass junco]

and i dont know if they are toxified

but let me get this straight, u can use the boots anyways, and IF you use toxified patch, it makes them embellished?

[grim jay]

Feelsbadman 421 head

[glass junco]

i mean, i got 421 tier set from vault so 😛

its not that bad

[cunning surge]

I'm pretty sure that the Stompers are already embellished, and the toxic patch takes up an embellished slot to double the effectiveness of the stompers

Wait

Nevermind

[grim jay]

You can use every crafted item without embellishment except the things like cowl that have it built in

[cunning surge]

moment

[glass junco]

can I sim the embellishments somehow?

[summer lantern]

I have a Torc of passed time 405 on my rogue, with the mastery embellishment ( over 90 percent hp you get mastery). I simmed against a Elemental Lariat and the Lariat was only 16 dps upgrade. Would that be because the sim assumes you always are above 90 percent hp?

[grim jay]

Correct

[cunning surge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[balmy condor]

why would you drop cut to the chase

I mean it looks like a normal no cttc bleed build

it's fine

but you could just run this instead

it's the same thing but less effort and also better

[cunning surge]

Cut to the Based

[strange python]

Flaring cowl is without socket crafted and people add there socket for coins from vault or is there some secret lore?

[balmy condor]

nope, it's a socket from vault

[strange python]

I see, thanks

[grim jay]

Secret lore for sockets

[balmy condor]

sockets are big

[grim jay]

People with sockets on their head are either lucky or had a sad vault, depends

[strange python]

Sad vault for sure

I have 2 sockets :))

My best upgrade this week is around -350

[glossy vector]

Hi guys,
Vault dilemma.
421 eranog ring vs HC set pants to finish 4pc? 🤔

[bitter helm]

i just found this build by looking at the "best" sin rogue on the same ilvl on a single terros nhc fight 😄 seems like a easy dps boost by changing talents xD

[balmy condor]

that "best" sin rogue on terros could've also changed talents for an easy dps boost

[balmy condor]

I would take the ring

and then just get the pants on rekill

[slim hamlet]

copium

[balmy condor]

much easier to have your guild give you a 4 piece completion

[strange python]

ring is very good and very rare xd 4set u can obtain ez af

[balmy condor]

than to get them to give you a mythic ring

[grim jay]

Dunno like

[slim hamlet]

wont drop for the next 3 months

[balmy condor]

catalyst in 2 weeks if all else fails

but like

should be a slam dunk

[slim hamlet]

Oh yea

[grim jay]

Just bcs someone did more damage with different Talents doesnt mean the talents are better

[slim hamlet]

Heard people talking about it coming out early next week

[shut owl]

I'm gonna get 4pc from catalyst it feels like t-t

[slim hamlet]

Don't know if that is a thing

[glossy vector]

Okey, thanks Whispyr💪

[balmy condor]

HOLY

IT HAPPENED

[grim jay]

Gz on puzzle

[balmy condor]

IT ONLY TOOK 29 ACADEMIES

[shut owl]

grats!

[grim jay]

@rigid eagle you just need to want the trinket as much as whispyr does

Thats your issue

[balmy condor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/e1AFe3dVjgszDgsZy9M4Xt

god bless amen

[rigid eagle]

dude i want it more than whispyr

i had 28 runs on like the 1st week lmao

[crisp cipher]

Gratz!

[rigid eagle]

but yes, gratz bruv

[echo geyser]

thats a juiced up fox

[grim jay]

What stats did you craft back with ? Mastery crit?

[balmy condor]

hast mast

[slim hamlet]

Imagine not just looting it in vault first week

[balmy condor]

crit is a dogshit stat for me

[slim hamlet]

Still only done 3 AA

[shut owl]

wild

[rigid eagle]

imagine an anime girl playing the spec where you rip people's flesh open with serrated blades and spill poison and acid into the wounds

[grim jay]

High crit gamer, I see

[balmy condor]

I can't escape

[rigid eagle]

what a thought

[echo geyser]

same ilvl as me whispyr

did u spend all ur valor?

[balmy condor]

that's 1 higher

fuck you

[echo geyser]

i got 1.8k + 750 this week

[flint tusk]

as a fox don't forget that bit

[rigid eagle]

TRU

[balmy condor]

imagine an anime girl sitting in discord yelling at shitters

god I wish that were me

instead I'm just a femboy

unlucky

[flint tusk]

tiny bit jealous honestly. it's floppy ear night elf for me

[torn atlas]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[grim jay]

Just identify as an anime girl

[echo geyser]

wtf u got the mythic ring

[grim jay]

Problem solved

[balmy condor]

bro I do

you see my pfp

[echo geyser]

ok ur juiced up

[balmy condor]

I'm halfway there

[echo geyser]

certified

[rigid eagle]

i mean nowadays nobody can stop u from being an anime girl

if they try just cancel them on twitter xD

[balmy condor]

REAL

[royal lantern]

i thought it was cat maid?

[balmy condor]

I can be an anime cat girl maid

[tiny ember]

what am I reading

[rigid eagle]

OH wait do u also play vulpera

[tiny ember]

and why am i not shocked

[rigid eagle]

since ur profile...

[subtle tundra]

im still 410 ;3

[grim jay]

Whispyr changed since he got puzzle, ngl

[echo geyser]

how is whispyr higher than u

[balmy condor]

it's demon hours in NA

[echo geyser]

did u stop raiding

[subtle tundra]

nope

i have 3 normal mode tier pieces

[tiny ember]

is it tho?

[subtle tundra]

i love master loot

🙂 🙂 🙂

[echo geyser]

whispyr popped off

[balmy condor]

it's 2:30 am on the west coast and 5:30am on the east

[echo geyser]

i was not expecting it

[balmy condor]

that's pretty cursed

[grim jay]

Rip. I still sit at 1 nm

[subtle tundra]

oh. and 1 hc

[tiny ember]

Yeah that's cursed as it gets

[rigid eagle]

wait this man is 410 with 3 normal tier pieces?

so ig ur like 420 ilvl everywhere else?

[subtle tundra]

my only mythic raid item is from vault

[echo geyser]

i need to upgrade m+ belt with socket & boots

[balmy condor]

@echo geyser send valor pls

[echo geyser]

that would push my ilvl a bit

[tiny ember]

I have the most amazing vault right now
Eranog 421 Ring
Priman Council 421 Icon with avoidance.....

[balmy condor]

[tiny ember]

do i wait for raid and jebait my RL to give me ring

[echo geyser]

i think im looking for the halls boots + belt

[royal lantern]

im the token server furry, and alliance is dead for raiding, what do you expect lol

[echo geyser]

kinda annoying dung to pug farm tho

prob cba

[subtle tundra]

and also my only hc tier piece is head and thats supposed to be flaring cowl

i fucking hate gearing

[echo geyser]

maybe i get cos boots instead

[rigid eagle]

LOL r u rly still the token furry when whispyr is now anime catgirl maid

[echo geyser]

easiest dung to pug

[balmy condor]

Tryan been the server furry for the last 5 years

[tiny ember]

Yo Ram do I pick from vault Eranog 421 ring or Do i wait for mythic raid tonight to jebiat my raidleader to give me ring and then pick Icon 421 with avoidance for m+ sub

[balmy condor]

he's an ancient ravenholdt regular

[echo geyser]

[rigid eagle]

i do remember this man from when i came here during nyalotha

he already a furry then?

[echo geyser]

u always wait for raid if it can change ur choice

[tiny ember]

Do i do a sneaky

[balmy condor]

yuh

[tiny ember]

I pretend it's not in vault and cry to rl to give ring

big profit

[echo geyser]

but depends if u care about ur prog

or guildies

[rigid eagle]

dang ig i was too slow, never realized then, the danger right beside me

[echo geyser]

many others want ring likely

[royal lantern]

boomer mode man

rember active zine

👴

or guy as a normal yellow name

[rigid eagle]

the most boomer thing i remember is enifire

being the sub channel god

wonder what happened to that man?

[grim jay]

Did you sim your statweights and update your pawn?

[cunning surge]

[tiny ember]

We starting proggin Dathea tonight/tomorrow... but you know some people are teamplayer and some peopel are sneaky bois

[balmy condor]

I did.... something

[tiny ember]

[balmy condor]

I mean I did do stat weights but I didn't trust it so I just ran some droptimizers based on educated guesses

crit/mast cloak was equal

haste/mast cloak was 0.5%

so

stands to reason crit bad

haste good

[royal lantern]

ofc crit bad, over 34%

[rigid eagle]

oh the magic number, i just remembered!

[grim jay]

So, crit cap missing in guide

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/kys-keep-yourself-safe-low-tier-god-gif-24664025

[royal lantern]

in case you are serious:no, there is no crit cap

[rigid eagle]

with the crit whispyr has he can prolly play sub now xD

[weak crescent]

fk

[flint tusk]

seems i'm going to be a flaw cowl socket boy this week.
socket 360
all other options are 330-350 dps and i can replace these from m+
only exception is heroic tier shoulder ilvl upgrade which is 480 dps but likely to be able to get this in raid. this week.
so socket makes most sense as it's the only way of getting it

[royal lantern]

its weird cus im stuck at 34% for weeks now, everytime i get more/less crit, i get a new item on the same day and end up at 34% again

[grim jay]

It hurts my feelings that you think I could be serious

[royal lantern]

there is some form of divine power involved

[thin gate]

guys puzzlebox 421 is bis right?

[royal lantern]

yes

[thin gate]

i just rolled a 424 mythic helmet and 418 puzzle box

[grim jay]

I magically passed my 37% Border

[thin gate]

in my only 418 m+

[grim jay]

And hit 39

[thin gate]

the box rolled....

but if i play flaring cowl i dont wanna drop it for 424 helmet right?

[balmy condor]

correct

[royal lantern]

yes

[balmy condor]

cowl + ring > 424 tier

[thin gate]

w.e 418 puzzle box it is

i mean

[royal lantern]

if You grab cowl, your head slot is done for this tier

[thin gate]

close to bis xD

[weak crescent]

i have 4set but one of them is a normal head, do you reckon i should go for cowl 418? (no ring yet)

[olive wagon]

All the items i get are better for assassination than for outlaw so i made the switch to assination 😛 like it for ST as well. just not sure how to play it well in mythic yet. having quite a hard time on packs. but practice makes perfect 🙂 got the 4thset piece today from the vault

[thin gate]

i guess IC from stealth get 3 garrotes done spred rupture

[royal lantern]

wait until you get a tier piece that is not the head slot tbh, you dont wanna drop 4set

[thin gate]

hold snd up

envenom uptime and besides of that CT spam

[summer briar]

vault today elgiggle

[thin gate]

shiv/KB exang main target

[flint tusk]

watch someone take this as a written rule

[worldly sphinx]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[grim jay]

Well its not bad so

[shut owl]

I can't seem to make haste better than crit/mastery yet

[balmy condor]

just be like me and have 5400 crit

[grim jay]

Mostly everyone with some knowledge answering questions in here will tell people to sim anyways

[balmy condor]

YOU MUST HAVE THESE STATS NO EXCEPTION IF YOU DON'T YOU'RE BAD DON'T SIM DON'T READ GUIDES THEY'RE ALL FAKE DON'T LISTEN TO THEM ONLY LISTEN TO THE VOICES IN YOUR HEAD LET THEM IN LET THEM IN LET THEM IN LET THEM IN LET THEM IN LET THEM IN LET THEM IN LET THEM IN LET THEM IN LET THEM IN LET THEM IN LET THEM IN

[grim jay]

And if someone just follows something he picks up out of context and blindly follows it without asking or anything 😁

[grim jay]

Gotta go straight to upgrading and crafting some haste vers

[balmy condor]

I think I actually regem off of crit gems bro this is insane

[unborn barn]

Guys, I dont have 37.60 % crit, should I abandon assassination and switch to elemental shaman???

[balmy condor]

play arcane mage and just afk until rasz shield happens

and then do 900k dps

and then afk

[grim jay]

But isnt that a weird case depending on lariat proc ?

[unborn barn]

Okay thanks for your help, will do!

[balmy condor]

yah but haste/mast > crit/mast, same lariat proc

for example

[grim jay]

Uh ye true

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

[shut owl]

I had a mage do that in a CoS once... somehow slammed 95% of the second boss in 18 seconds, then just kinda coasted for the rest of the key and still wound up 2nd.

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yescat-cat-nodding-nod-gif-21702876

[verbal mantle]

63 dps

[balmy condor]

it's margin

we go to advanced sim

must increase sim accuracy

[verbal mantle]

still cooking

[balmy condor]

I must know

[pastel onyx]

pin plz

[balmy condor]

if the sim thinks I have too much crit

[pastel onyx]

[heavy coral]

How I feel playing Puzzle Box:

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

[hollow river]

[spice surge]

Whispyr cooking up some forbidden no-capstone build

[flint tusk]

that is full haste vers

[balmy condor]

cooking up some verboten geschwindigkeits edelsteine

[spice surge]

No habla espanol

[balmy condor]

that's more than margin of error we got em

[celest ruin]

haste > crit confirmed time to remove all crit from gear

[balmy condor]

yep

recraft every item you own

[thorn crater]

on it

ill be sure to spread it all over the place

[flint tusk]

that size of dps chance xD

[spice surge]

Friendship ended with big crits, now fast is my best friend

[thorn crater]

whispyr said haste>crit

[balmy condor]

oh no he changed his name

[flint tusk]

but what about the proc from lariet?

[balmy condor]

my eyes don't agree with my brain

[thorn crater]

its been 20 years

[balmy condor]

what about it

[thorn crater]

bout time

[flint tusk]

is haste/mas and mas/haste both mastery procs for lariet?

[balmy condor]

haste/mast and crit/mast both proc mastery

mast/haste procs haste

[thorn crater]

all it matters is you get as much haste in your gear as you can. whispyr said so

[flint tusk]

nom nom energy

[thorn crater]

now GO

[balmy condor]

proc is based off the secondary of the gem

[thorn crater]

time to reenchant/regem everything

[royal lantern]

kritische Trefferrate+ Geschwindigkeit edelsteine, oder meisterschaft+geschwindigkeit edelsteine?

[flint tusk]

full haste gems here i come

[balmy condor]

blitzkrieg auf paris is bis

[thorn crater]

time to use that haste stick neck

fuck lariat

[thorn crater]

also i got banned for a week for telling a kid that left hov 20 on final boss cause he got in a fight with our tank that "nobody loves him"

feelsgood

[balmy condor]

blizzard loved him

unlucky

[novel arrow]

Is there any way to see our tier set pieces in the game?

[balmy condor]

nop

[thorn crater]

i thought i saw something horrible

[novel arrow]

..... 😦

[thorn crater]

then i got linked my messages

[grim jay]

@balmy condor so, is it normal that the simreport doesnt show the crit diff with buzzing rune on buffed/unbuffed ? Just saw that as I was checking stats

[balmy condor]

but you can see them in the faq

:D

[thorn crater]

and i giggled

also zerocool playing outlaw

sin dead finally
?

[grim jay]

More like zerocool dead

Bcs he is playing outlul

[thorn crater]

LUL

[royal lantern]

yahtzee pirate

[balmy condor]

buzzing runes are technically considered enchants by simc

can see them here for example

but they don't show up on stat reporting

bit of a grey area

[grim jay]

Oh alright. Didnt really check that before tbf

So the stats tab basically shows the stats without buzzing, ye?

[balmy condor]

ye

[grim jay]

Alright. 38% with buzzing seemed kinda low

[balmy condor]

that's about where I am I think

I just regemmed let me check

I'm at almost 40 with buzzing

[thorn crater]

i thought stat weighs are not a thing nowadays

time to start listening to pawn

[grim jay]

Tbf I dont know the actual % buzzing adds

[balmy condor]

almost 2%

[royal lantern]

6%

[balmy condor]

per

[royal lantern]

source:trust me Bro

[thorn crater]

ok so in all seriousness

whats the fuss with secondaries suddenly?

[balmy condor]

I'm min maxing

cause uh

I'm at that point

and I need to get rid of some crit

[grim jay]

And we just compare

[balmy condor]

cause crit/mast cloak is 0.0%
and haste/mast cloak is 0.5%

so

we do a little bit of min maxing

[brazen zodiac]

just a lil

[balmy condor]

and a little bit of re-gemming

[brazen zodiac]

100k later

new sim!

[balmy condor]

nah gems are super cheapo

they're like 2k a piece

[thorn crater]

dont forget ring enchants

[shut owl]

did you just do a sim of all your crafted crit going to haste? or just your gems?

[balmy condor]

just the gems

[thorn crater]

what about sharpstones

instead of runes

[balmy condor]

no ty

[shut owl]

ah, that seems reasonable

[thorn crater]

but you gotta know

right?

Kappa

[balmy condor]

I know that whetstones suck

[balmy condor]

I think I could squeeze out a bit more if I recraft my mainhand for hast/mast instead of crit/mast

but uhhhhhhhhhh

that seems expensive for no reason

[grim jay]

Just get a 421 sbg

Problem solved

[balmy condor]

just eat my balls

how about that

[grim jay]

I would

Dare me

[balmy condor]

damn check dm's I'm sending the ady

[subtle tundra]

The wat

[grim jay]

Gotta tell RL im not there

[balmy condor]

my location homie

my house

[flint tusk]

you a boomer or something? don't know what ady means?

[balmy condor]

the street I live on and the funny numbers to identify the square box I preside in

[grim jay]

[slender rapids]

Is anyone here playing assassination in m+?

[balmy condor]

yes

all 5 of us

[slender rapids]

I sim like 20% lower than outlaw and sub top gear

[balmy condor]

I would say there's dozens of us for the meme

[subtle tundra]

Give it to me too

[slender rapids]

and i have a few different pieces to choose from

[balmy condor]

but I don't think there actually are

[flint tusk]

i'm going to try sin in m+ this week i think now i'm sitting on +16's more

[subtle tundra]

I will visit America sometime in the next decade

[balmy condor]

sin dslice is a little cursed because of how dslice works

but it's doing good

[slender rapids]

Is it just my gear or are ass that much worse?

ah ok

[subtle tundra]

Assa dslice is always low

[balmy condor]

the number dslice spits out is less important

[slender rapids]

Do u have any good youtube clip or guide to direct me to?

[subtle tundra]

It barely sims more than pure st

[fleet imp]

😂

[slender rapids]

since ive never played ass and new to rogue

[grim jay]

Ass > boobies, nothing worse there

[slender rapids]

Yea this was pretty funny

[fleet imp]

Homieees lets push it up

[balmy condor]

@subtle tundra and @marble hemlock both have vods of their keys and they're like top 5 assa rogues in m+ in the world

so

would go there

[slender rapids]

Thanks man

[shut owl]

sim dslice feels like its playing sin in a heroic dungeon with all ilvl400+ geared folks

[subtle tundra]

Idk if I have vods anymore they delete after a week

[fleet imp]

Last week started as F ended up as A. Proud 🤝

[balmy condor]

bro huh

[subtle tundra]

😔

Idk

Haven't changed anything

[balmy condor]

don't make me stream my keys man

[shut owl]

by the time dots are applied shits dead

[slender rapids]

The wowhead talents for m+

the generic one

[subtle tundra]

Well I won't play assa this week

[slender rapids]

why?

[subtle tundra]

I have to practice sub

[simple gulch]

can I change my lariat stats in sim?

[subtle tundra]

Rasz does that

[grim jay]

3 gcds?

[slender rapids]

I mean u spread dots with Sub as well

for 2-3 gcds

[balmy condor]

they're good, would recommend ||also I wrote it and everything I write is perfect with no flaws and no mistakes for I am god himself and my word carries the weight of a million mountains||

[grim jay]

If you have 4-6 Mobs its 2-3 gcds ye

[simple gulch]

I think I have bad stats for assassination, my outlaw sims higher on ST

[subtle tundra]

Don't make me fucking play cb in m+ just to troll people

Your word will mean nothing

[shut owl]

if your tank chains infinite packs together you don't get to apply dots quickly 😛

[simple gulch]

Is that normal guys?

[balmy condor]

I know the country where you live and it's not a very big country and I know other people in that country that probably could find you

[shut owl]

and thats what dslice feels like its doing

[grim jay]

10.0.5 big AoE CB TTB shiv gameplay

[subtle tundra]

You probably know my city too

[slender rapids]

Is assaination like sub where you have to manually spread dots or is there a better gameplay

or more fun/boomer friendly

[subtle tundra]

Nope currently cb

[simple gulch]

help

[subtle tundra]

How can we help sir

Get better gear

[grim jay]

[simple gulch]

Guess I'll continue playing outlaw then

[shut owl]

is your MH dagger the same as your MH weapon?

you've given 0 context here

[balmy condor]

I mean romania has like 3 big cities, so I'm gonna guess in order of probability, bucharest, constanta, cluj-napoca?

[normal mist]

You missed Tate brothers city

[subtle tundra]

That's bucharest

[simple gulch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bUN6YzuVLgcKT6PnqmP7Md

[ruby sedge]

!FUU

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[flint tusk]

oh sweet summer child hasn't experiences IC yet

[simple gulch]

I guess it doesn't help that my lariat is for outlaw

[quaint dragon]

are sims still fucked?

[balmy condor]

honestly this ain't bad

[balmy condor]

oh good shout, no they got fixed

[simple gulch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jChmqa2jMQ931XJN6yRKVn this is outlaw

[balmy condor]

need to delete that pin

[quaint dragon]

Why do I sim so low i dont get it

[shut owl]

have you tried simming the dtb bleed build box? since you've got tier it might land a bit higher?

[simple gulch]

Do you guys think I should take the legs? I think I should

[grim jay]

I could sim 10k lower than outlul on most other specs and I still wouldnt play it, if that helps you

[balmy condor]

3 ilvl higher and almost equal

[flint tusk]

you aren't in your birthday suit are you?

[simple gulch]

hmm, I haven't, i'll try it

[simple gulch]

I think I wanna take it for tier next week

[shut owl]

but I mean... your weapons for outlaw are slightly beefier so the small gain in outlaw shouldn't be terribly surprising?

[restive spire]

silly question:
you lose no uptime on lariat proc if you put in an illimited diamond for one of the 3 sockets right. It'll just 50/50 the other two elemental jewels in it. Not have a 33.33% chance to hit the diamond and brick the proc?

[subtle tundra]

Wat

[balmy condor]

you don't lose procs no

main stat gems aren't picked

only gems that can proc

!neck

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1055055765980844093/image.png Lariat can proc ANY gem you have equipped, in any slot.

[balmy condor]

so these

[restive spire]

okay cool ty

[balmy condor]

it picks any of the highlighted ones you have socketed at random

[simple gulch]

Where can I find it?

[balmy condor]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[balmy condor]

next to the builds

there's a pastebin

[grim jay]

And not only those that you socket into lariat

[balmy condor]

add that below your top gear

and it'll add all the currently viable builds

you just tap tap tap all the builds

and it'll compare them all

[restive spire]

oh wtf lariat can proc on any gem in any gear?

[grim jay]

Yes

[simple gulch]

this one?

[balmy condor]

that's bleed dtb exsang yeh

current BiS build with gear

but depending on your stats

you might find kingsbane exsang is higher

[quaint dragon]

When will new shiv come?

[balmy condor]

with the patch

[simple gulch]

I see

thanks

[flint tusk]

i dislike that kingsbane is higher simming for me. especially as i know it's getting yeeted in a few weeks

[balmy condor]

you're tellin me

trade chat, we aren't a trade server

[polar matrix]

@balmy condor if Kb exsang was only 0.2% higher than dtb bleed exsang would you play the latter or the former?

[flint tusk]

yeh saw you running it on your sim xD i feel for you. least i have a choice but have to play with less optimal guildies

[thin gate]

its impossible, every 1 sec 20 messages of boosters come in

:sadge:

[balmy condor]

I would probably play dtb bleed exsang unless there's some timing for KB on prog

[simple gulch]

Do you think I should take legs for tier next week or just get the chest now for 4p?

[balmy condor]

that's not trade, that's services

different channel

[simple gulch]

I'd like some input from you Whispyr

[balmy condor]

trade for me is /2, services is /5

[balmy condor]

oh didn't realize you linked vault

hold on

[simple gulch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uK1RqAgSa6eNtQPrYKCPmw with the bis build

sheesh. that's a big upgrade

[balmy condor]

uhhhhhhhhhhh

I would take the tier

you need to get tier legs at some point

[subtle tundra]

I watched a 1hr yt video and 50 minutes of puss in boots last night during prog

[balmy condor]

so like

if you want to

[subtle tundra]

Kinda hate how much apm assa has

[balmy condor]

you can take the tier legs for catalyst

[subtle tundra]

Could've watched way more

[balmy condor]

idk if you want to wait that long though

[simple gulch]

Isn't it next week?

[balmy condor]

2 weeks

[summer lantern]

is Sin any good for m+ or is it best to run outlaw for m+

[balmy condor]

24th I think

[balmy condor]

sin is fine

[simple gulch]

Why does wowhead say it's next week

[balmy condor]

it's more difficult by like a mile

[balmy condor]

am I dumb

I might be dumb

[eternal vortex]

ye wowhead says next week

[balmy condor]

yeah okay I'm dumb

[eternal vortex]

but i heard everywhere else 23/24

[balmy condor]

take the legs and catalyst them next week

[eternal vortex]

icyveins says 23/24 tho

[balmy condor]

I trust the wowhead people to know that better than me

oh

well

fuck

[simple gulch]

[subtle tundra]

You are those you peepee

[simple gulch]

They said it would come out at week 6

next week is the 6th wek

week

[eternal vortex]

comment section under the wowhead post are also chaotic

[eternal vortex]

i dont know actually

ye

[thorn crater]

YO THATS POG

[subtle tundra]

Gear is for losers

[simple gulch]

So that's what, next week?

[thorn crater]

The useless pieces of gear I got from vault become tier

[simple gulch]

When did the raid come out

at mythic

[subtle tundra]

14 dec

A month ago

[shut owl]

finally, 4pc aproaches

[subtle tundra]

[thorn crater]

It’s ok blizz can’t do math small indie company anyway

If it happens next week even better

[simple gulch]

So it's definitely on the 18th, next week

[thorn crater]

I wouldn’t use the word definitely

Especially where blizzard and dates are related

[dense jetty]

Blizz and deadlines. Mhhmm

[balmy condor]

what about blizzard and raisins

why's it gotta be dates

[simple gulch]

[dense jetty]

Mmm dates

[balmy condor]

[thorn crater]

Sleep deprivation finally got to you huh

Also everyone knows raisins are goat turd

[simple gulch]

i'm gonna commit something, and it's not living

[balmy condor]

yo you take that back

raisins are goated

I will down a box of raisins

all at once

straight down my gullet

[simple gulch]

why can't I just get a clear choice in vault

help

[eternal vortex]

raisins are awesome

[balmy condor]

but then fucking people put raisins into cake and shit

and I don't like them anymore

cause what the fuck

but raisins on their own

super sick

[spice surge]

Prefer them when they havent been sucked dry

[dense jetty]

Rasians alone are great. Disgusting in anything else he

[hollow river]

i've also read 23/24th everywhere

[simple gulch]

I think I'm gonna do a heroic reclear first, to see if chest drops before I pick an item @balmy condor

[thorn crater]

I don’t think raisins are meant to be eaten on their own

[balmy condor]

good luck

[thorn crater]

But then again humans are not meant to sleep through the day and roam during night

[simple gulch]

Thanks

[subtle tundra]

Raisins bussin by themselves. In any food they disgustin

[balmy condor]

I identify as a 2d catgirl, cats are nocturnal, this is natural and healthy

[eternal vortex]

we have a dessert we usually put raisins in its so awesome, its called Somlói galuska

[shut owl]

... I dont understand what I'm reading here... how is the same build 15dps higher than itself?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eS5JjYNhV8B5JdtDAdTvQ9

[hollow river]

[balmy condor]

getting out of bed at 2:30 in the afternoon is completely regular behavior stop stareging me

[balmy condor]

margin of error

[shut owl]

ok

[thorn crater]

Any blue post buffing ap yet?

[shut owl]

I just did not expect it to spit it out like that lol

[balmy condor]

yah

your margin is 32

so any 2 combinations that are within 64 dps

are equal according to the sim

cause it can't tell the difference

[shut owl]

ty

[thorn crater]

Dumb sim

It’s clearly different

[balmy condor]

it told me a 415 puzzle box is a 0.1% upgrade over my 415 puzzle box

[balmy condor]

[thorn crater]

Controlled>manic?

With puzzle?

[spice surge]

Perhaps the box contains an easier puzzle

[shut owl]

depends how much you wanna sacrifice your allies I'd bet

[spice surge]

So its faster to solve it

[thorn crater]

I mean technically my raid group sucks

[shut owl]

cuz if your raid is not great at staying off the floor... not much gonna beat manic XD

[simple gulch]

my dh

[shut owl]

I've seen 20% manic damage t-t

[balmy condor]

not usually, but it's still pretty gud

[vestal abyss]

#raisinmasterfruit

[balmy condor]

rubix cube defaulted to an easier solution

[thorn crater]

For m+?

[subtle tundra]

Wtf is a puzzle box

[thorn crater]

I’d assume you don’t play around deaths

[balmy condor]

yeh you don't, neither does sims

I think manic still better in dungeons

[thorn crater]

Kk cheers

[balmy condor]

stay losing

[subtle tundra]

I do some elementaling

In keys

[subtle tundra]

I only grief

Also I have 421 leech whispering

So stay losing

[spice surge]

The ankh+ankh totem enjoyers though

[balmy condor]

I stay winning brother

it's W city where I live

[subtle tundra]

I whisper in your ear

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor would you grab a 418 engineer wrist for the meme cr that never works and kills you, or a LW 418 wrist

[subtle tundra]

And give a lick

[balmy condor]

(also 150mm of rain)

[subtle tundra]

How tall are you

[balmy condor]

(but mostly W)

[subtle tundra]

It's raining rn

[balmy condor]

about 185

[subtle tundra]

fuck you're so big

[simple gulch]

whispyr, do you play something as an alt?

[royal lantern]

manlet lol

[subtle tundra]

🤤

[royal lantern]

laughs in 198

[simple gulch]

Ask me how tall I am

[subtle tundra]

Almost all my friends are taller than me

And I'm 180

[balmy condor]

yeah I play a buccaneer and a dawn warrior in maplestory, currently gearing a fire/poison mage, hero, and a dual blade

[balmy condor]

how tall are you

[grim jay]

CCT is siming with 100% uptime on the Boss aswell, so it might turn out to be a bit worse, aside from manic usually siming higher

[simple gulch]

[flint tusk]

I love when the sim gives me 115 dps increase by swapping my trinkets PepeLaugh

[simple gulch]

200

[grim jay]

Its legit for on use

[royal lantern]

slot 13 is passive, 14is activd trinket, thats the rule

[balmy condor]

okay and without heels?

[simple gulch]

no heals

[subtle tundra]

I wish I wore heels

[flint tusk]

i have 2 actives due to how shit my passives are

[simple gulch]

swear

heels*

[balmy condor]

damn

I'm so flaccid now

[simple gulch]

I've only met one person taller than me

[balmy condor]

shouldn't have told me no heels

[simple gulch]

[balmy condor]

[grim jay]

It handles the uses differently depending on slot iirc

[subtle tundra]

Tall men are whatever. I want to meet a 2m Amazonian woman

[simple gulch]

I felt emasculated when I met a guy taller than me

is this how everyone feels when they meet me

[balmy condor]

my gf is 170

perfect height

[thorn crater]

Mine is 183

🙂

[balmy condor]

jesus

[flint tusk]

ahh right so basically puzzle box should be on the top slot for simming reasons basically and boon so it uses it outside of rotation

[thorn crater]

Thankfully I’m 188

[balmy condor]

jesus

[simple gulch]

Mine is 0

[subtle tundra]

I don't need no gf

[balmy condor]

okay so how tall is your boyfriend

[simple gulch]

0 too

[balmy condor]

oh

[subtle tundra]

He is a little taller than me

[simple gulch]

I don't have a gf

[thorn crater]

Never measured your palm huh

[balmy condor]

you're kinda boring

[simple gulch]

A very good point

I should do that

[subtle tundra]

He also has a gf

[grim jay]

Box 13 bcs opener

And I have 2 on-use aswell. Puzzle and torch

[simple gulch]

I've never been in a relationshipo

im 26

[dense jetty]

Not worth it

[grim jay]

Thats why I should eat your balls

[flint tusk]

human's suck ass

wow is life

[grim jay]

Bcs gf too big

[simple gulch]

I prefer short girls

[weak crescent]

Assa chat pogging rn xD

[grim jay]

Jk. 1.70 prolly best

[shut owl]

if I'm 200cm in heels does that just break you whispyr? 😛

[subtle tundra]

I was kissed in the cheeks recently

And not by a man

[balmy condor]

real

[flint tusk]

what is the weather like up there

[balmy condor]

m...mommy?

[grim jay]

Seeing you in heels would break him

[subtle tundra]

(being kissed by men is very normal for me)

[simple gulch]

I'm 270 with heels, how about that?

207

fuck im dumb

[thorn crater]

I wish my gf would wear heels but she has a complex cause of people teasing her at school so now she never wants to look taller than me

Smoge

[sand jetty]

heyo, is flaring cowl with eranog hc ring worth for assa? or is diruna the only way to make it good?

[balmy condor]

[simple gulch]

not enough blood going in my brain makes me dumb

[shut owl]

ngl, I wish I wasn't so tall >~>

[simple gulch]

[balmy condor]

it's kinda worth without it, definitely worth with

[shut owl]

hard to shop

[subtle tundra]

Out of curiosity how tall are you

[grim jay]

As long as she doesnt look bigger, just taller

[shut owl]

same height as your gf apparently 😛

[thorn crater]

I mean she’s 183 58 kg

[subtle tundra]

I don't have a gf

[thorn crater]

Been trying to get her to eat more

[balmy condor]

follow up question, do you like girls, cause my gf does

[flint tusk]

this is the setup i currently have. a random shield just from your helm doing damage is pretty great. especially if you have problem with being healed while tiny tick damage or big abilities happen.

[balmy condor]

[shut owl]

I'm married to one, so I sure hope so

[balmy condor]

based

holy

[sand jetty]

i mean, I dont have diruna yet, i only have hc eranogg :p

[simple gulch]

How can you be so based??

[subtle tundra]

All my respect

[balmy condor]

she actually just won life

[shut owl]

"based" and no one has even mentioned the screen name pun

[flint tusk]

yeh that's find seal of diruna (dropped by eranog) procs damage from you doing fire damage. the seal of filial duty(dropped by diruna) gives you a shield

[thorn crater]

That looks like youruichi but I just noticed it’s not. What’s the character

[grim jay]

Im 1.86 btw, not 1.70

[simple gulch]

is 72.7k good for 408 ilvl

[balmy condor]

bro my gf just rolled over and she's legit eating her phone mic right now wtf it feels like she's snoring directly into my ear canal make it stop

[simple gulch]

[shut owl]

its a picrew thingamajig, so its no character, just an avatar

[flint tusk]

that's cap

[balmy condor]

yah it's fine

[balmy condor]

you wanna hear?

[shut owl]

I gotta start streaming again

[simple gulch]

please no

[flint tusk]

go on then

[grim jay]

Stream it

[flint tusk]

wheres the video or it didn't happen proof

[simple gulch]

life kinda sucks tbh

[shut owl]

I do not understand how the hell folks are slamming down like 80k on eranog with similar gear to mine t-t

[simple gulch]

at least you won at life

[shut owl]

ehh... I'll consider it winning at life after feb 3rd

[simple gulch]

Should I make a second lariat for sin

[shut owl]

like... maybe feb 10th or so

[subtle tundra]

Mute her

[subtle tundra]

You said you didn't have 4pc?

[grim jay]

88k with 402 on first kill

[balmy condor]

I tried that once and then she woke up at 5:30 in the morning and got mad I didn't respond bro

don't fuck with latinas

they're insane

[royal lantern]

didnt we talk about the "GF" part allready?

[trail tree]

truth

[flint tusk]

I have the proof and i can agree. the snoring is erm yes
"dense"

[shut owl]

I do not have 4p

I have anxiety

[subtle tundra]

Ok maybe idk how it be to be in a relationship

[shut owl]

[flint tusk]

Now to give Whispyr a really complex thing to sim while listening to that 😛

[balmy condor]

we been together 7 years and she wakes up angry cause she had a dream that I went ice skating with my friends instead of staying home and watching a movie with her

I don't know how to ice skate

[shut owl]

but yeah, slammed a 54k at 398/2p last night; only one black-out-forgot-to-re-up-garrote moment, and some shiv holding in first dm being the only critical shit I could find

[harsh perch]

I’ve been married 16 years it doesn’t get better lmao

[balmy condor]

what am I supposed to do about that

[subtle tundra]

There's this girl I know and she has the wildest dreams. She suddenly starts saying the weirdest dreams possible in the human mind

[harsh perch]

My wife still wakes up mad because I cheated on her in a dream.

[grim jay]

Would love to see you iceskating with your vulpera outfit

[subtle tundra]

I get scared when she says she dreamed

[simple gulch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aGjJFao7U2NrrgUDrhuaj2 a guildie

[balmy condor]

my gf talks in her sleep and one time she just deadass said "no not the russians" and then rolled over

[simple gulch]

help

[modern dust]

Increase the duration of Dragon Isles potions Does this increase combat potions?

[flint tusk]

i will say sleep talking is some of the funniest shit going

[grim jay]

Is she german?

[balmy condor]

yes

[balmy condor]

no she's mexican

I'm german

[subtle tundra]

Whispyr is austrian

[balmy condor]

that's fuu

[subtle tundra]

Fuck

[flint tusk]

fail

[grim jay]

Rip

[balmy condor]

well

[undone summit]

W

[balmy condor]

I'm half austrian technically

my mom's austrian

my dad's german

but like

my mom's family moved to germany when she was little

so does that really count

[grim jay]

Thought she perhaps screamed "DIE RUSSEN KOMMEEEN" but well

[subtle tundra]

How did a German boy end up with a Mexican lady and live in america

[balmy condor]

SCHEIßE ALTER

[subtle tundra]

Netflix movie story

[grim jay]

Didnt you read his biography in bookform?

[simple gulch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uK1RqAgSa6eNtQPrYKCPmw how do I make my lariat mastery crit in this sim

[subtle tundra]

Shit

Theres whispyr lore?

That I don't know of

[simple gulch]

Anyone can help me with that?

I mean, the stats

[balmy condor]

oh

that's

a little more difficult

[slender rapids]

Am i using Amplifying and Instant poison for m+?

[grim jay]

Whispyr write a CV for us

[simple gulch]

What do I do about this? I'm gonna have to change my lariat to crit mastery then bac kto versa crit for outlaw every time i change my spec

[balmy condor]

okay careful now, look at your import

[simple gulch]

[balmy condor]

do you see the "neck=" line

that you have on your character

[simple gulch]

ys

[balmy condor]

okay

copy that line

[misty holly]

If you care that much craft 2 of them. Or pick a middle ground for stats, like crit/vers or something.

[balmy condor]

add a hash, and then paste it just like this

at the bottom

you should now have 2 lariats

[simple gulch]

I wanna make a 418 dagger for sin/sub

[balmy condor]

probably marks the new one as great vault

[simple gulch]

so i won't have enough to make

[thorn crater]

Yo mr Rich man with premium raidbots

Can you run droptimizer for me?

[balmy condor]

process is the same stick with me here

do you have 2 lariats?

[balmy condor]

yah sure

[thorn crater]

Welp not at a computer rn fuck

[balmy condor]

L