Holy moly. You might aswell quit, this is never going to happen again. Actual BiS vault
#assassination
minor rover
vast goblet
@minor rover Chose the Shoulders to get 4p 🙂
minor rover
<@102121182177824768> Chose the Shoulders to get 4p 🙂
I jelly
slim hamlet
Skill issue obviously
Got a good vault, just sad that the high ilvl ones are the bad pieces
timber basalt
does anyone know how to sim the upgraded version of primal storms set
i have 359 item but want to sim as though it's 385
vestal wren
easiest way is just to go into gear compare and add the items
undone eagle
@vestal wren my vault dropped a hc tier set leg and hc torch trinket from diurna, im currently 3/5 set , should i go for the trinket if none of those drops in reclear today? Whats ur suggestion pls.. I got hc krumog trinket but the 2nd is from nokhud
Feels like i need this nutty trinket and doubt it will drop ever for me
vestal wren
i would suggest to wait till after raid unless you need the dps immidiatly
silver forum
how do you guys handle so many buttons for assasination?
vestal wren
trinket def. seems like the option i would take ^^
undone eagle
Oki thanks
vestal wren
but 4p is insane
slim hamlet
Trinket is only 1 boss, while u have 2 chances for tier
vestal wren
so if you progress mythic, might be the best for the team
undone eagle
If im lucky tier set drops in m+ and is upgradable in the future, i dont mythic raid this exp
silver forum
guys. how do you handle all the buttons for assaination?? like is there a macro like subtlety has
grim jay
Never had any issues with keybinds on sin
silver forum
there's like 4-5 1 minute cooldown buttons, 4-5 basic attack butons, and 4-5 other ones
i can't really fit them all in on my naga i can only reach 12 buttons comfortably
grim jay
I use 2 buttons on the mouse, 1-6, alt + 1-4, q e r f g x v, alt + Q and alt + E mainly
undone eagle
Use shift and ctrl binds
feral wasp
current technique i guess
grim jay
If you dont need the shoulders for set bcs you have them or are next in line, probably
feral wasp
I have 4 sets shoulder is the 5th, i dont have duirna so i cannot swap immediately.
grim jay
Would wait till after raid and see what you can get
slim hamlet
I am confusion help
Why is outlaw higher in terros mythic no matter the percentile you're looking at
cunning surge
Especially this early in when gearing is a lot more volatile, it'll equal out as the raid goes on and everyone gets geared
silver forum
hey which one does better now for single target? KB or DTB?
oak sky
very close
silver forum
close sometimes means 5k dps
oak sky
close like 100 dps
cunning surge
Nah this is even closer, like <1% of your dps at MOST
oak sky
might vary depending on how much tier you have and your specific gear
cunning surge
Simming is always the way to go if unsure, but yeah at base value both are really close to each other
silver forum
i see
slim hamlet
Depends on your gear
My kb sims higher, but friends dtb sims higher
same ilvl different stats
neon oxide
my KB simmed higher till I got 2pc, then KTB went ahead by about 600 simdps
slim hamlet
Same but then got 4pc and kb sims higher again
cunning surge
I'm just milking Kingsbane as much as I can, didn't even bother simming lmao
Gonna milk this while we have it again
cunning surge
I'm like half and half on it
Like the Execute damage is really nice for Prog, but you also have a lot more buttons to juggle
slim hamlet
current gear = dtb bleed+exsang
cunning surge
I'm still struggling with holding onto my Shiv charges
silver forum
damn you guys are right about the close dps.
slim hamlet
Yep
cunning surge
It's really nice that both builds are so close
silver forum
oh my mythic plus build
slim hamlet
ah
silver forum
are the two mythic plus builds about the same too? i'm ready to give up on KB Carnage cause its too many buttons
thorn crater
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO puzzle box is bis now???????
and i skipped it on first vault?????????
thorn crater
@balmy condor Smoge
slim hamlet
why
slim hamlet
get scammed
thorn crater
i mean it was first week
slim hamlet
No shot im taking tier over a m+ trink
cunning surge
are the two mythic plus builds about the same too? i'm ready to give up on KB C...
I think the consensus is that DTB has more Single Target, but slightly less overall than KBIC
slim hamlet
Never getting that in vault again
cunning surge
Of course I haven't had too much luck with DTB being that much better in ST, but that's what everyone here has said
Fuck I wish I had a 418 Puzzlebox
Or at least not a 376 Whetstone
cunning surge
Also just looked at pins
Wasn't Signet always our BiS?
grim jay
it was 418
Could be worse. 415 vs 418 isnt that big
royal lantern
Also just looked at pins
Wasn't Signet always our BiS?
lol no
cunning surge
thorn crater
ok can i link my vault and ask for help?
cunning surge
Well good thing I've been upgrading mine at least
grim jay
ok can i link my vault and ask for help?
Sure, if you sim it aswell
grim jay
I'd raid first and pick later
thorn crater
yep thats what it said
I HATE
that it gave me a dagger
but its a haste vers one
like, i did like 22 HOVs last week
nad i got nothing
cmon bruh give it to me here
my actual problem is that i hurt on trinkets
grim jay
Dagger isnt that good anyways. You should have 418 mh crafted
thorn crater
i have spiteful storm from normal raz and a 372 puzzlebox
thorn crater
Dagger isnt that good anyways. You should have 418 mh crafted
have it
bottle isnt that good right
sigh why couldnt the tier piece be on the lower part
grim jay
Bottle is way down
slim hamlet
Bottle is the best I can get from dungeons now
thorn crater
second week in a row i get offered manic normal btw
slim hamlet
Depends on current stats
thorn crater
maybe its a sign
grim jay
Just wait for raid and see if you can get chest or the higher ilvl dagger
And then pick
You could get way better trinkets farming academy/hov, so i wouldnt take those
winter gale
When we speak Cowl+Ring we are speaking about Eranog Ring?
grim jay
Obviously the one that interacts with the head in any way and deals actual dmg since we are a dps class, yes
grim jay
It does and its pretty good aswell, but the proc isnt that relevant for dps simwise
winter gale
Yeah, I didn't read 'absorb' part on first glimpse 😄
languid basin
what build are we feeling for this week m+?
dire lodge
its kind of toxic how the 4set perpetuates exsanguinate gameplay
no one likes this talent
royal lantern
exsang is on blizz radar
dire lodge
i can already tell blizz stopped paying the exsanguinate shills. dont see as many of them around
grim jay
Will see if thats good or bad, but I'm actually pretty happy with the stuff they did so far in dflight
I think a 2 min exs with less damage amp wouldve been better, but hey
royal lantern
i can already tell blizz stopped paying the exsanguinate shills. dont see as man...
80% of them where just trolling, and where more like "eh, i dont mind it"
dire lodge
yep just remove the button never reuse the icon again dont reuse the ability name again
but ya df rogue design has been good so far
sub still has that thing where half their class tree is giga useless but hey
the rest of the tree is great
outlaw feels better then sl too
grim jay
Outlaw
royal lantern
sub still has that thing where half their class tree is giga useless but hey
its bad cus the half feels extremely pvp based
grim jay
Is fucked since end of wod
royal lantern
and like
grim jay
Be real
royal lantern
lmao wow PvP
oak sky
i mean like
they have pvp talents that exist so they can have things that they like
that we dont
royal lantern
There are many pvp enjoyers
yeha, no
pvp in wow is the peak example of a very loud minority
grim jay
they have pvp talents that exist so they can have things that they like
3 talents 
oak sky
I mean like
A third of the sub tree is borderline useless
Probably for both pvp and pve
dire lodge
yeah but they get ST baseline p much without having to sacrifice the rest of the spec
grim jay
pvp in wow is the peak example of a very loud minority
Its a minority for sure but I dont think its as bad as people make it out to be. Dont have statistics tho
dire lodge
sub best its been in years
who remembers sl and bfa secret technique talent placement
grim jay
I didnt miss ST back then tbf
grim jay
Now I would
thorn torrent
is DTB or KB in m+ better this week?
royal lantern
ww monk
dire lodge
mm hunter
grim jay
DH
royal lantern
weapon always
winter gale
I will change dagger for cowl soon?
royal lantern
weapon is litearlly the most important slot in the game, neck is slightly more secondarys
dim yacht
is DTB or KB in m+ better this week?
considering theyre similar damage, i feel DTB is better because it brings more utility to the group in form of the extra poison
though that would also depend on group comp, if they already have a good aoe slow or not
dont necessarily wanna run full ST on every dungeon either. aoe is still good for some
i personally run ST build on temple, shadowmoon, court, ruby, azure, maybe nok?
nok is arguable
academy and halls i would def keep aoe build, and nok has so much trash i think you should prob keep it on there too
royal lantern
considering theyre similar damage, i feel DTB is better because it brings more u...
what extra utility lol
criplling poison is really not important
oak sky
Cr 
pple
royal lantern
like, yeha 50% slow is nice, but not something giga big, espacily because slows are not rare, +tyranical week means adds die faster anyway
dim yacht
i didnt say its huge, just saying its something extra when you consider that KB and DTB are so close to each other
royal lantern
i mean, if anything the ic kb build has way MORE utility
cus of the aoe silence with Carnage
dim yacht
on tyran week, i def think its worth for some of them
royal lantern
tyranical week means you do bigger pulls
dim yacht
and bosses still are a big deal lol
royal lantern
it doesnt matter if tyranical or fort
dim yacht
well a lot of groups have been asking me to go full st lol
flint tusk
i can already tell blizz stopped paying the exsanguinate shills. dont see as man...
you wut m8. wanna fight? 
royal lantern
you still spend the majority of a dungeon doing adds
grim jay
well a lot of groups have been asking me to go full st lol
Weird groups. What key level? 😁
dim yacht
20/21
royal lantern
in fort weeks you pull smaller cus adds hurt more and need longer, but bosses die faster
in tyranical you need 40years for a boss, and save the time by doing bigger pulls bettwen them
paper pawn
Ive had to go switch talents to pure st in some groups even on fortified, because we lack boss dmg
grim jay
Could just pick an entirely different class then
paper pawn
In 18-20 keys
dim yacht
i mean i could, but i enjoy playing sin rogue even if its not a meta pick
paper pawn
So he has a point, sometimes the aoe and utility is not needed
royal lantern
Ive had to go switch talents to pure st in some groups even on fortified, becaus...
what are you guys doing
dim yacht
and im happy that im staying in title range as a sin rogue
grim jay
Its still kinda troll
dim yacht
shrug i ask my groups what they prefer
paper pawn
If it comes down to clearing it or not, idc if you think its troll
grim jay
If you just wanna clear it you dont need to care if pure ST or legit m+ build anways
If you wanna time it tho.. 😁
dim yacht
i find if you wanna time, its not usually about the dps. dps does matter, but its about one shotting bosses, getting your kicks and ccs right
if i do less damage on packs but we one shot bosses cause im pulling extra damage and we time
id say i made the right choice
dire lodge
i agree, except i only play assassination on terros
grim jay
I cant think about a case where you would want to make the sacrifice. You would need to have 2 insane aoe blasters with no st
oak sky
2 ele shamans
grim jay
Ele has strong ST unless they play some weird stuff
Arms has aoe but no st or the other way around depending on build
oak sky
Pretty sure they give up a lot of st to go a full aoe build a lot like how we do
grim jay
Pretty sure they give up a lot of st to go a full aoe build a lot like how we do
They have 2 builds and the heavy aoe one is worse anyways
royal lantern
Arms has aoe but no st or the other way around depending on build
just like assa in raids
royal lantern
"yeha, i can do 111k dps on council, and idk howmuch in ST, but never both at once"
slim hamlet
uh dk xd
royal lantern
meanwhile the outlaw pressed BF once
slim hamlet
uh dk either do 500 mil dps st or 20k
royal lantern
i mean tbh, making aoe/st a bit more restrictive is GOOD in my opinion
if the game is balanced around it and everyone has that
royal lantern
thats the "game balanced around it" part
slim hamlet
It's fine idea for raid where u want some aoe and some st, but then in a fight like diurna add guys are sadge on last phase
And dathea you're sad whole time if u need to go aoe
royal lantern
It's fine idea for raid where u want some aoe and some st, but then in a fight l...
did that fight first time yesterday on heroic as full st blaster assa
did like 26(?)m boss dmg or something like that
slim hamlet
Yeah I only do ST assa on diurna
royal lantern
some add people had 4m
slim hamlet
we will see on mythic tho
Was still on top of dps tho
That's how far ahead my sin was, or maybe add guys just was afk
dont know
slim hamlet
sin much better in that fight than expected
Just not worth when u can do more on sub with 10% of the effort
if even
grim jay
did like 26(?)m boss dmg or something like that
Same
royal lantern
sin much better in that fight than expected
its long duration+long time in execute phase for 4targets
like, you have scent of blood the entire fight
and shit
slim hamlet
yes
slim hamlet
Just not worth when u can do more on sub with 10% of the effort
this tho
royal lantern
oh, and mythic council trinket dropped
healer got it, cus they want to get a tank/healer/dps first with it for obvious reasons, and a dps has the hc one
some guy that allready made loot drama instant gquit
slim hamlet
xd'
Hopefully they are not putting a healer in windfury group
Or well maybe its worth i doubt tho
depends on comp i guess
royal lantern
no enh
glass junco
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glass junco
where did whispyr's pin about builds go?
thorn crater
@limber lion are we running controlled puzzle or manic puzzle?
grim jay
If you read the pins, I'm sure you'll figure it out
Its not whispyrs pin, so not trustworthy 
royal lantern
its a cev pin, cev is not a sub main like whisp
glass junco
If you read the pins, I'm sure you'll figure it out
Dont be mean 😦
I just liked the way he explained which build is better depending on the gear, i dont have 4 set yet
grim jay
I mean he has a point considering you went to the pins anyways
And he has tier sims there
hoary night
i would say the builds are completely depending on your own style of gameplay. But yeah the set does add some marginal advantage to DTB build
and you can find everything in the pins as usual
neon oxide
I simmed all the builds and the standard DTB is still the best and I just got 2 set with whispers trinket
the differences are super minor
teal bloom
Yeah the poison DTB build is probably usually the best if 2 set but not 4
grim jay
I simmed all the builds and the standard DTB is still the best and I just got 2 ...
We love to hear it
"I simmed all the builds"
Fr
neon oxide
We love to hear it
what can I say, I am a man of culture
cursive frost
Weirdly enough it still simmed highest for me with 4pc
low palm
hi guys, quick question: If i'm in a situation where I have full combo points and rupture just started it's pandemic window, but the Envenom buff just fell off, is it better to prioritize envenom buff uptime or a longer rupture with pandemic? I'm trying to figure out what my priorities in the fight should be. Thanks
thorn crater
ok so guild can guarantee me either controlled or manic from hc if it drops but not both to give me
which should i put prio on?
is it just a simple sim both see which is better or is tehre a clear cut winner?
cursive frost
Manic imo but def sim.
velvet bison
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grim jay
hi guys, quick question: If i'm in a situation where I have full combo points an...
It basically doesnt matter when you refresh rupture in pandemic
cursive frost
Where did the list of all those talent builds go? Am I missing a link in pins or faq?
cursive frost
Ty, I just saw them typed out a day or two ago and didn’t see it anymore so I got confused
royal lantern
hi guys, quick question: If i'm in a situation where I have full combo points an...
rupture
envenom buff is not something you play around
you have a giant uptime with it by default, and in the windows where it matters(kingsbane if you play it, DM) you have a 100%uptime anyway
static glacier
any reason a higher ilvl wep would sim higher in OH?
royal lantern
mainstat
grim jay
He prolly means using the higher ilvl weapon in offhand
royal lantern
oh
you borked something in the sim i gues?
like, forgot to also activate it in MH? idk man
static glacier
royal lantern
static glacier
it's just a simple vault topgear
royal lantern
yeha, put it in MH
static glacier
running it again
royal lantern
dunno why sim says offhand
royal fjord
what is the pandemic of rupture?
thorn crater
I mean it depends if he added it as a main hand option. Or the crafted dagger as offhand option
If one of them wasn’t added in both categories this comes out by default
Right?
grim jay
If he didnt select both on both ye
grim jay
Or a better 421
thorn crater
I mean what are the chances
Only better dagger is fenryr
And after a point I don’t think it will be better since at some point crit will lose max value
trail tree
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!log
narrow inlet
is assa also good for M+?
signal vortex
I think it’s great.
narrow inlet
I think it’s great.
what skills do you use for M+ i really struggle with Energy in mythic
signal vortex
I keep going back and forth on 4 poison and KB+IC
lone creek
yep
signal vortex
Thanks @lone creek - Sin is great and I just pump a lot of damage.
I use to. Don’t use it much anymore.
lone creek
Crimson Tempest? Yes
royal lantern
i mean, you can translate it into that i gues
lone creek
yeah lol i guess it is indeed the same meaning
signal vortex
Is my current build for m+ I guess I stopped using IC
turbid heath
IC is the mythic plus god
signal vortex
IC is the mythic plus god
Yeah I don’t remember why I took it out. Gonna have to retake a look at my build tonight 😂
turbid heath
I love it for like, Notgood Offensive or RLP, stuff with a fair few adds obv
Plus I just like the way it plays in M+ especially with swirly blades
Big swirly AOE blade bleeds
narrow inlet
yeah
static glacier
Only better dagger is fenryr
and fenryr doesn't drop a wep. no legion dungeons dropped weps
narrow inlet
i feel like the Tea alone buffed Assa rogue so much
static glacier
i feel like the Tea alone buffed Assa rogue so much
feels like the biggest thing is being able to take talents together that we couldn't in the past
signal vortex
Me and a buddy been fighting. He is outlaw and I’m Sin. It’s like a constant battle on who’s damage is better
static glacier
Me and a buddy been fighting. He is outlaw and I’m Sin. It’s like a constant bat...
he probably does more in aoe and you will do more boss dmg
turbid heath
I'm currently battling with a fury warr in my guild
grim jay
and fenryr doesn't drop a wep. no legion dungeons dropped weps
It does now is what counts tho😁
signal vortex
he probably does more in aoe and you will do more boss dmg
Exactly how it is
static glacier
It does now is what counts tho😁
wait what? can't see it on loot list
narrow inlet
feels like the biggest thing is being able to take talents together that we coul...
true
static glacier
Exactly how it is
real dark horse would be sub, it can compete on both aoe and st
grim jay
wait what? can't see it on loot list
M+ table on sub and sin
signal vortex
God what I’d do to see a Sub rogue in our raid group.
turbid heath
What benefits do sub rogues bring over sin
signal vortex
I got both daggers from raid last night then got dagger from SMB. I’m set
turbid heath
I passed up on the claw in my chest today for diurnas
thorn crater
@static glacier someone has been lying to you. go look at m+ loot table from hov
signal vortex
My vault is sadly gonna be pvp only unless I don’t get a new piece. Then I’ll probably go after the PvE ones
Cause being conquest capped is bull
static glacier
<@579112108839403525> someone has been lying to you. go look at m+ loot table fr...
ahhhh, I forgot to set the loot to mythic +
mb
static glacier
u can use like 7 pieces from in there
temple also has a ton of crit mast gear
turbid heath
My old ring was blaze ring 367 so couldn't pass up diurnas lol
signal vortex
My old ring was blaze ring 367 so couldn't pass up diurnas lol
This is my biggest nemesis right now
static glacier
This is my biggest nemesis right now
at this point it might be a signet of titanic craft angle
static glacier
i have a 372 puzzlebox simming higher than my 398 trinkets
what're your 398 trinks?
storm onyx
i have a 372 puzzlebox simming higher than my 398 trinkets
Depends on the other trinks yea, its massive mastery
thorn crater
horn and raz one
turbid heath
Had to make a horrible decision, legs to give me a 3 set (potential 4 set this week) or the ring upgrade or the Claw dagger was also in the chest, but I have SMB daggy and also the other one from the raid forgot the name lol
thorn crater
i got the 395 dathea one and it sims higher than that one too
static glacier
Had to make a horrible decision, legs to give me a 3 set (potential 4 set this w...
you could always take vault after raid
and make sure to tell them i have a tier in vault, screenshot it and post it to guild disc
static glacier
since iirc we're 2nd/3rd prio(with ww) for our tier token after arms
signal vortex
at this point it might be a signet of titanic craft angle
Yeah I’m just hoping for CoS ring drop.
static glacier
been farming it, no luck with whetstone or ring yet
signal vortex
I need better gear tbh. But I’ve been in the solo shuffle grind that I’ve been neglecting pve lol
royal lantern
viscid spear
Take the tokens
gusty mirage
Huge one socket
silver quiver
does ambush ever take priority in m+ or raid? I'm gonna try some assas pve
viscid spear
legs for catalyst
finna catch these hands
royal lantern
does ambush ever take priority in m+ or raid? I'm gonna try some assas pve
you use it on blindside procs, but not as an opener
silver quiver
So I what you're saying is I gotta bind it. Dang. Ty lol.
lavish wing
I have one seemingly stupid question, but here it goes, does Atrophic poison stack, with multiple rogues?
royal lantern
ofc not
cunning surge
That would be nutty
royal lantern
when you have 2 rogues, the other can go mindnumbing
lavish wing
aye, tnx
silver quiver
Well I know it's been a while that snapshotting has been a thing, but I should let my stronger bleeds wear off and not refresh in pandemic range for extra damage right?
gusty mirage
legs for catalyst
Wahooo holding onto them for 3 weeks
royal lantern
Wahooo holding onto them for 3 weeks
are you telling me that socket tokens are more value, when there is nothing to put a socket on yet
royal lantern
rather get that tier piece on catalyst release that is higher then what drops
signal vortex
No cos ring? <:Raisedeyebrowbutcat:913560814873620530>
Doesn’t exist
royal lantern
No flaring cowl? <:Raisedeyebrowbutcat:913560814873620530>
not buying that one before i actually get the ring
gusty mirage
vestal wren
This is my biggest nemesis right now
more hp, so you don't die, 200iq item
viscid spear
No cos ring? <:Raisedeyebrowbutcat:913560814873620530>
Ask Quake about the CoS ring 
vestal wren
did he loot it?
spice spire
He already knows
vestal wren
👀
spice spire
Yeah I got it out of vault
vestal wren
nice, gz
spice spire
Socketed too 
gusty mirage
Socketed too <:Cheesin:1004094333458317332>
How many bitches tho?
dire flame
Wtf...
spice spire
Val’s a nice person
She’s a saint what are you on about
Imagine living with me and not murdering me
gusty mirage
What are YOU on about?
spice spire
signal vortex
thorny pond
you good bud?
gusty mirage
I think he’s high
spice spire
grim jay
signal vortex
Yeah Quake what’s wrong
final dirge
Anyone have an idea of how to do the opener for Council? Find it hard to work out when to actually fit in bone spike in it
Running IC, Exang, bone spike
oblique jackal
Is flaring cowl still BiS with fire ring ?
slim hamlet
yes
oblique jackal
❤️
lavish wing
we need a new term for something that is like 0.2% or 0.4% better than the other stuff 😄
lavish wing
bestish
signal vortex
Betterish
lavish wing
I believe prices on AH would plummet if ppl actually saw sims for certain stuff
cedar mist
Slightly more good maybe?
signal vortex
You know I never really simmed cause I played feelcraft then I played classic and boy that changed everything how I played returning to DF
hollow river
<:hmmCoffee:750285983744000042>
lavish wing
You know I never really simmed cause I played feelcraft then I played classic an...
true, thats why good ppl did it for us and made a detailed spread sheet
gusty mirage
<a:PU_ppCoffeeSip:679402545961107502>
signal vortex
true, thats why good ppl did it for us and made a detailed spread sheet
True. Which is why I’m not the top of dps charts 😂😂😂
rose vault
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hot goblet
Should primal gem go in Lariat, or other slot ?
raw raft
Do I need to puzzle box before my exsang in my opener 
lone creek
you dont need to do anything
lavish wing
I puzzle before ER+rupture
lone creek
everything we do is a choice bc we're in control of our own lives
lavish wing
its 20 sec should cover full DM
unkempt scroll
With puzzle and torch where are we supposed to use torch in the opener?
low junco
Do I need to puzzle box before my exsang in my opener <a:thonkzoomin:84462989583...
I personally puzzle box before opener
lavish wing
i dont think torch affects ur burst dmg anyway so i wouldnt put it there
low junco
It varies to be honest, people use it after their second garrote aswell
proper tapir
Idk what to do with my vault, I can get pants for 3 piece (already recleared and didn't get tier anything), or Current (trinket). Trinket sims the best but doesn't get me closer to 4 set.
low junco
Idk what to do with my vault, I can get pants for 3 piece (already recleared and...
which trinket
signal vortex
everything we do is a choice bc we're in control of our own lives
Too early for that kinda thinking
signal vortex
Not if you ask my wife 😂
lavish wing
we dont get nerfed for a few weeks and ppl become optimistic and sht
proper tapir
which trinket
Controlled current technique
lone creek
nah tuning wont happen anymore
lavish wing
now u gonna jinx it
low junco
wrong ping
lavish wing
this is also very weird
ehh its all ilvls
proper tapir
Yeah, I guess
lone creek
and its 90th percentile (tho percentile doesnt change anything)
hardy pawn
Idk what to do with my vault, I can get pants for 3 piece (already recleared and...
3 piece is useless, only time tier is worth it is if it gives you 2 or 4 piece bonus. BiS Trinket is gonna be juice at all points in prog/gearing
lavish wing
probably very low parse count
signal vortex
I’m just not gonna talk about parses and just live in imaginary land
lone creek
probably very low parse count
191
lavish wing
3 piece is useless, only time tier is worth it is if it gives you 2 or 4 piece b...
tho good way to get 4 set is to have 3 pieces prior
hardy pawn
tho good way to get 4 set is to have 3 pieces prior
The good way to never see your BiS trinket again is pass on it to sit on 3 piece which does nothing for you now.
lone creek
boss dies 30-40sec after a deathmark
lavish wing
The good way to never see your BiS trinket again is pass on it to sit on 3 piece...
but multiple trinkets are within 0.4% and 1.4% dps, while obtaining 4set gives u 4%
flint tusk
So i'm going to give the exsang spec a go again now i've got my 4 set.
i tried to look it up in FAQ/pins couldn't see anything specificly about garrote but besides using an ER rupture before exsang do we not also reapply garrote even if without vanish before it also?
like the old DEGEN exsang strat
cedar mist
hardy pawn
but multiple trinkets are within 0.4% and 1.4% dps, while obtaining 4set gives u...
Youre not obtaining 4 set youre obtaining 3 set
and he already simmed it and said the trinket was better
polar matrix
is it ok to override a garrote with improved garrote if it's not in pandemic, so you don't miss out on the DM window?
flint tusk
is it ok to override a garrote with improved garrote if it's not in pandemic, so...
my understanding is always
as it directly leads to higher uptime of empowered garrote
fading wigeon
Not having luck getting thr puzzle box. Currently using boon and whetstone. Would you guys use whetstone on pull and then boon after? And then both on cooldown from then on?
lone creek
In raid?
fading wigeon
Yeah
lone creek
Prob depends on boss/when you have 10sec to stand still
Boon great for add padding !!
limber lion
this is also very weird
I think Terros is bugged in some way. I know it's bugged for Subtlety's Secret Technique, but I think something's wrong with Assa as well but I can't put my finger on it
lone creek
I use whetstone on pull with double on use because it feels better
fading wigeon
OK thanks Cynth
limber lion
It's my worst fight by far, even though the last pull I had was absolutely perfect in every way and I had PI :)
lone creek
I think Terros is bugged in some way. I know it's bugged for Subtlety's Secret T...
Bugged in favor, or against? I’ve been swapping between assass and sub on Terros
limber lion
Against
fading wigeon
Which build were you playing cev?
lone creek
Fuk maybe I should just quit and go outlul on it
limber lion
DTB
fading wigeon
Ah ok
limber lion
Literally last week. 4p, cos ring, puzzle box, flaring cowl, 410 ilvl, PI
blue parse
Not sure what's up
fading wigeon
Damn
limber lion
I know I didn't have WFT because raid leader was trolling
thorny pond
It's obviously a skill issue, link your logs /s
lone creek
You’re also competing against other people with the same shit tho
limber lion
but wft shouldn't be the difference between a r1 log and a blue log
fading wigeon
Especially with PI
lone creek
I don’t look at any log now without 4p because they don’t exist past 2/8m
limber lion
I was comparing myself to all the public logs at the time, didn't have too many assa logs at that point
polar matrix
but wft shouldn't be the difference between a r1 log and a blue log
wind furry is so big tho
lone creek
Although (and I linked my logs above in a thread) I would’ve parsed 55ish last night on terros, and when comparing to top logs I casted envenom a few times less. So room to improve
limber lion
That's not something you look at
Envenom count does not matter
That's just RNG stuff
Whether you generate more or less combo points with Seal Fate
lone creek
I’m not a rogue main typically so I hardly know what to look at
limber lion
Yeah, rotation, cooldown usage, resources are the main thing
polar matrix
what was your crit % on evenom
limber lion
Also have to look at buffs including trinket buffs and externals, because the mastery trinket is kinda nuts lol
thorny pond
It is strange that a purely ST fight with a decent execute window has so many outlaws in top 100 rogue parses
polar matrix
sometimes ive had obsurdly low
lone creek
what was your crit % on evenom
Can’t see on mobile
Back at PC shortly but you can prob tell me before xd
limber lion
So sometimes definitely fucked
It was prior to the nerfs, so that's one thing
but that's around 5k or something
thorny pond
@limber lion #1 sin parse, took PB, I don't see it at all: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/c1pYMRgz9TW6tHn2#fight=23&type=damage-done&source=29
limber lion
whereas he's simming much less than most others
limber lion
<@165215952479322112> #1 sin parse, took PB, I don't see it at all: https://www....
It's under Envenom
rare jackal
do you not double garrote anymore in the opener when playing DTB?
limber lion
do you not double garrote anymore in the opener when playing DTB?
You do if you play Exsanguinate
thorny pond
Jesus I am dumb
rare jackal
You do if you play Exsanguinate
i see
eternal vortex
lol
polar matrix
i mean green and greys comparatively right?
grim tangle
also somehow that log doesn't show as getting PI on the ranking page even though he got 4 Pis
limber lion
Why would you want it?
lone creek
greed
wide ridge
Also have to look at buffs including trinket buffs and externals, because the ma...
which one? puzzle?
or trinket from cos
unreal coyote
puzzle box having a cast time is the dumbest shit tho
limber lion
PI is kinda giga for warlocks/mages and whatnot because it helps them play the class and do the rotation much easier.
wide ridge
tf is that
limber lion
Int trinket, drops from Academy
thorny pond
Is it that dumb ring getting over juiced on logs? Details doesn't show it as high as WCL does when I roughly compared
wide ridge
oh i see, you mean someone else gives you that buff right
dire flame
PI is kinda giga for warlocks/mages and whatnot because it helps them play the c...
My guilds priest gives it to me because he sees our warlock/mage at the bottom of the dps list.. i tried to tell him itll help then out more 
normal mist
Same with me on my raid group
Both warlocks doing -15 to 20k dps than me sometimes
So they just slap it on me whenever they can / remember
limber lion
Welp we're doing a mythic reclear today, we'll see what it'll look like today
brisk crystal
what build u suggest for this week in m+? classic ic and kingsbane?
normal mist
Have you tried dtb?
I'd recommend for people to try out both. I find dtb with pugs much better than ic kb.
mint kindle
Hey quick question, I play DTB and I have the torch. Does anyone know when to use it in the opener?
The opener of sin is very long so I'm always confused to when
I also have the puzzle box so I need 15 secs into the fight to use it
normal mist
Maybe when it is off CD after using the box?
Since you wanna use those 20 secs of box to pump hard on the rotation
mint kindle
Directly after? Doesn't matter what bleed are going to fade?
vernal walrus
sorry about that, but when to use Manic Grieftorch in the oponer with DTB Bleed no exsang build?
mint kindle
Alright I'll try it
limber lion
Before Deathmark if it's the only on-use trinket you use, or after Deathmark if you have another one
@vernal walrus
mint kindle
Before Deathmark if it's the only on-use trinket you use, or after Deathmark if ...
Deathmark is used like ~5 seconds into the fight, so I need 10 secs more
vernal walrus
thx, i have Algeth'ar Puzzle Box too
lone creek
@limber lion wasnt sure if you had seen this
that's rank 1 terros log
he gained 11 ilvl
and can't beat his own parse
limber lion
thx, i have Algeth'ar Puzzle Box too
Yeah so you would use that right before Deathmark and Grieftorch when it's off cd
mint kindle
80k with 400 ilvl? Jeez. I have 399 and I sim 65k
lone creek
something severely wrong with assass on terros for sure
normal mist
He pressed his keys harder before gaining 11 ilevel xD
lone creek
mint kindle
<@165215952479322112> wasnt sure if you had seen this
Which build is he playing I don't understand
lone creek
he swapped from DTB to KB
limber lion
<@165215952479322112> wasnt sure if you had seen this
Yeah xd very interesting stuff
lone creek
DTB on first, KB on most recent
sour wraith
It's also 8 sec into the exsang±dm overlap in execute rather than 40 sec, so he's not going to get the full value of those last cds (esp if he saved pot for that lineup in the first kill)
burnt star
Ur missing the point. Look at fight lenght
Lower ilvl but without even taking a better look at it. Im pretty sure the % of fight in execute must be much larger
limber lion
There's not much you can do to prolong execute phase on Terros lol
Everything's timer based
On prog pretty much everyone kills it during the last enrage
frosty cedar
wait there's Christmas trees?
gray crest
When Michael Buble and Mariah Carey begin their summer hibernation
turbid heath
Those daggers are the mini winter veil daggers 🤣
chilly marsh
that pin with the best build for 2p and 4p sets is somewhere else ?
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limber lion
is this accurate for the uptime for the helm and ring?
couldn't be more accurate
lofty topaz
anyone know if there is a pin somewhere for all the best options for the Lariat?
spice spire
!neck
prisma monolithBOT
lofty topaz
thanks!
spice spire
For you personally it’s a simmer
lofty topaz
for sure, just looking for the guidelines.
turbid heath
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1055055765980844093/...
I don't fully understand this lol
So my 77crit/30mast gem always procs Mastery?
hazy whale
Question, are the sims correct, and if i have Frieftorch, just uise it after first garrote? xD
grieftorch*
royal lantern
you use it after ER
so its like
garrote-SnD-Garrote-rupture-er-torch or puzzlebox-rest of the opener
viscid spear
So my 77crit/30mast gem always procs Mastery?
Correct.
The pure stat ones always proc the associated element (Red-Crit, Green-Haste Purple-Mastery, Blue-Vers) but the dual-stat gems prefer the lower number.
turbid heath
So I'm best stacking the crit gem in my lariat then
royal lantern
you stack what sims highest for you
winter hawk
!fuu
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chilly viper
!fuu
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echo geyser
!whispyr
prisma monolithBOT
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ebon notch
!whispyr
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hoary fulcrum
Who can I send a log to review for Sin rogue on Terros? Im decently knew to Sin. So trying to get better
ebon notch
Who can I send a log to review for Sin rogue on Terros? Im decently knew to Sin....
type !log
or !logs
hoary fulcrum
!log
hoary fulcrum
VERY COOL
gentle tusk
im just started to look into assassination. Why do you garrote twice out of stealth? Seems like in opener you garrote/finisher/garrote. and also when you use vanish, its vanish/garrote/finisher/garrote
unkempt burrow
!log
hoary fulcrum
I believe people do that for max pandemic in exan
hoary fulcrum
im just started to look into assassination. Why do you garrote twice out of stea...
If using Exsanguinate its def to max pandemic
eager solstice
whats everyone's talent of choice for m+ this week for 19-21 keys
red tinsel
How does a Monk's touch impact on Assa DPS? I assume it's 5% only to AA, Mut and Envenom?
limber lion
this updated with puzzle changes?
What puzzle changes?
red tinsel
Or bleeds are also physical?
limber lion
Yes and assuming you read the pin you'd have the answer to that question :P
But there are no major puzzle changes or anything
spreadsheet is fully updated
echo geyser
yeah i read it last night
trail root
quick question on Bronzed Grip Wrappings, I cannot find a definitive ppm... anyone know where I can find that. I am trying to decide between Fang and Bronzed Grip Wrappings for a weapon embellishment
royal lantern
quick question on Bronzed Grip Wrappings, I cannot find a definitive ppm... anyo...
take the cheaper one
difference is really REALLY small, and you want the flame head in the end anyway and remove weapon embalishment
turbid heath
Wtf I'm simming like 6k less than last week yet I have like 10 more ilvl
I am sad
Big sad
signal vortex
Did you forget to enchant?
limber lion
but i was on the no sleepers
I get it, I slept for 2 hours last night. Very pog
brittle burrow
Or changed talents? That's my most common shocker 🫠
limber lion
Wtf I'm simming like 6k less than last week yet I have like 10 more ilvl
link sim
turbid heath
Standby
signal vortex
What am I standing by?
spice spire
flint ridge
!fuu
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turbid heath
Okok so that's the spec I'll need to run with double dance and head and neck?
frozen iris
Should I make another dagger with my 3rd spark? I have elemental lariat already and don’t have the ring for the headpiece . Also I only have 2 piece head and shoulders.
brittle burrow
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storm onyx
for HC eranog, do u bleed any ads?
They die too fast, I fok and funnel
vagrant dirge
hey anyone else just really strugglin with energy management? i always burn out so fast with this spec
young idol
hey anyone else just really strugglin with energy management? i always burn out ...
its probably lying somewhere in your rotation
vagrant dirge
yeah probably
vagrant dirge
Do you have poisons up lol
yes xd
limber lion
all 4 of them
vagrant dirge
yep
signal vortex
I’ve had to learn that you don’t just spam buttons.
limber lion
You very rarely run out of energy with dtb and tea
vagrant dirge
I’ve had to learn that you don’t just spam buttons.
maybe its that xDD
limber lion
Yes
undone eagle
They die too fast, I fok and funnel
sry dumb question, funnel is ?
signal vortex
Coming from being a tank main to dps is a rough transition cause I just can’t roll my face on my keyboard and be a good tank
young idol
welcome to the fun part of WoW
signal vortex
It’s such a change of pace tbh
vagrant dirge
I really like both outlaw and assa and I seem to sim like 6k higher on ST what could definitely improve my raid performance to some extend but I just don't get the numbers even on Target dummys that I get with outlaw
signal vortex
Numbers go brrrr
young idol
so it sounds to me your more confident in playing Outlaw which could lead you to react to abilities quicker without thinking about it as much
that reaction time is a variable
as well as priority
vagrant dirge
maybe I "play too fast" and thats why I run out of energy?
storm onyx
sry dumb question, funnel is ?
Generating CPs through Fok on adds and dumping it in to envenoms on boss
young idol
outlaw regen is insane compared to Sin
vagrant dirge
yep thats what I noticed too. It feels a lot slower to play
young idol
sin is all ramp up
needs time to be effective
mroe burst then previous tiers i admit
but more dots = more ramp
i'm not the math wiz here but imo if you can rupture 3 targets that should help with your regen
vagrant dirge
only playing assa in PVP or ST situations tbh
not had too much M+ exposure with assa yet
young idol
same, theres a good bit of MT fights for vault rn, most logs dont have sin rogues with KB I've seen
that are ranking at least
vagrant dirge
those are the poisons we're using right?
lusty surge
I usually run numbing
signal vortex
If you’re running 4 poison yeah
lusty surge
Unless crippling is requested
young idol
my default is those simon yea
vagrant dirge
okok
young idol
we finally have raid utility again 8)
flint ridge
for dtb exsang do u just use exsang on cd for the 2nd one? or align it with the 3rd deathmark with vanish?
vagrant dirge
I also have never even tried the KB build because it seemed a lot harder than the DTB build
young idol
im curious about the same thing fleebug lol
lusty surge
The opener is the only hard thing to learn
lusty surge
It gets a lot easier after you have that down
signal vortex
I’m enjoying rogue a lot though. When I was told I wasn’t tanking anymore I really didn’t know what to choose
young idol
i should've gone rogue 17 years ago lol
vagrant dirge
any great guides on YT about Assa yall can recommend?
signal vortex
Pvp is amazing as Sin. Just funny to watch people go from full health to like 25% 😂
vagrant dirge
Pvp is amazing as Sin. Just funny to watch people go from full health to like 25...
yeah thats very fun xD i started playing pvp again bc of assa
signal vortex
any great guides on YT about Assa yall can recommend?
I’ve enjoyed Dalaran Gaming
vagrant dirge
ty!
young idol
I've enjoyed Infexious Gaming
signal vortex
Don’t know if he is the go to but his guides are fun.
young idol
use his WA
signal vortex
I wanna learn combat at some point. But I’m just starting to get strong with sin
signal vortex
Oh yeah it’s outlaw now
young idol
lolol
signal vortex
Fuck I keep forgetting that
vagrant dirge
love outlaw for AOE
lusty surge
This is the most I've enjoyed sin since legion
young idol
ah, dual wielding sword rogue days
lusty surge
Good time to be playing the class lol
signal vortex
Until we get nerfed into the ground again
vagrant dirge
yeah only spec I dont like at all is sub but its strong if someone likes it sooo
lusty surge
Even if we weren't so overturned for dmg
signal vortex
Because we are “too strong”
old jewel
!neck
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flint ridge
for dtb exsang do u just use exsang on cd for the 2nd one? or align it with the ...
any thoughts on this. up :p
fleet imp
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lusty surge
You just send it unless you wouldn't lose a cast by aligning them
Eg if the fight was 4m30s you'd hold 2nd exsang for 3rd dm
That's usually the way cds work in wow
red tinsel
Until we get nerfed into the ground again
Hope it won't come to that since Outlaw, Enh, unh and arcane are all overtaking us
slate knot
what emebellishment for dagger assa?
red tinsel
I feel like Rogue is in an incredibly good spot because all 3 specs are competitive between one another so we can play what we like best without being penalized for it. Hope we can keep this up for long.
viscid spear
red tinsel
what emebellishment for dagger assa?
Bronze Wrappings according to Whispyr sim sheet
red tinsel
Bronze Wrappings according to Whispyr sim sheet
Just checked, and it's apparently Fang Adorment now
the difference is minimal though, 0.2%
red tinsel
That'd be it
only downside is if you drop Diurnia's ring you'd kiss that dagger goodbye and get a flaring cowl + lariat
kind jacinth
verbal radish
Hmm must've missed it. I thought Bronzed was stronger cause it scaled with ilevel, and previously people said Fang didn't?
slate knot
That'd be it
thanks brother
and now, what is worth to craft with last spark?
i have lariat and crafted dagger
boots are worth?
thin gate
guys is there a weapon poison reminder WA for DTB Build?
everytime i swap between KB and DTB build i forget to reapply cause me monkey
vestal wren
both bronze grip and fang are fairly close, i would sim it before buying
balmy condor
guys is there a weapon poison reminder WA for DTB Build?
Afenar has them, I think luxthos and the others might as well
thin gate
tyvm
deft yarrow
Anyone Able to help me choose and Item from the weekly lol I ran a sim and the 3 I want and they all come out +650-750 but I feel like there is a better choice between a dagger trinket or pants
balmy condor
Which dagger which trinket which pants
verbal radish
Not seeing where I can sim in an embellishment. Maybe I'm just blind
balmy condor
Not seeing where I can sim in an embellishment. Maybe I'm just blind
In top gear crafted items have a little +, allows you to make a copy with an embellishment
Gear compare works too I think
verbal radish
Ahh was using gear compare and didnt see it
vagrant dirge
Anyone Able to help me choose and Item from the weekly lol I ran a sim and the...
Post a pic
balmy condor
I had one pull last week where it did like 1.3%, and then the rest of the night 0.4%
Real pain
Swapped back to fang after
deft yarrow
@balmy condor 395 Controlled Current Technique - I use 392 Hunger pack and 379 windscar whetstone . then the Skyferno rondel 408, I use the same dagger at 379 IL and my pants are the same Tier pants just item level difference from 389 to 408
rough stump
sim it
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> 395 Controlled Current Technique - I use 392 Hunger pack...
Okay assuming the tech replaces whetstone, and the skyferno is your offhand not your mainhand, I would take the tech
deft yarrow
I did the pants were the highest +750 other 2 are like +690
balmy condor
But pants probably fine
As Just a solid upgrade
That you’re not going to replace or whatever
deft yarrow
I ws assuming the trinket would be harder to get then the pants and a dagger upgrade to
balmy condor
Yeah if it were mainhand dagger that’s an instant take
deft yarrow
but yeah sky is in my offhand im using the crafted dagger in my main at 405IL
balmy condor
But offhand just ain’t that important
royal lantern
But offhand just ain’t that important
its so important that they had to disable the sylvanas dagger
cus otherwhise people would probs still use it
balmy condor
It was competing with heroic daggers ye
spice surge
Is offhand the least important slot? Seeing as bracers can have sockets on them
Or cloak i guess
royal lantern
Is offhand the least important slot? Seeing as bracers can have sockets on them
yes
im like 99% sure it is lol
signal vortex
Now I gotta decide which dagger to use tbh. Cause I got both from raid, then I got dagger from SMB
spice spire
im like 99% sure it is lol
Yeah except you can put sophic devotion on an offhand get woke buddy
fleet imp
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orchid tree
Which gems should I socket into my lariat?
marble cedar
Which is the better build for single targets in raid? Dragon Tempered or Kings?
Is it marginal difference?
royal lantern
Yeah except you can put sophic devotion on an offhand get woke buddy
you mean the thing you could pull on a green weapon aswell
+we are balanced around 2 enchzants? 
tacit oracle
Which is the better build for single targets in raid? Dragon Tempered or Kings?
JustSimItBro
royal lantern
Stay awakened
awakend what? order, fire, wind, earth or ice?
spice spire
Gonna keep myself safe here
river socket
this spec good pve. seems more ez to play no rng
vital vale
Is the suggestion to get daggers with sparks because you can upgrade them and they should optimally be what you're using in mainhand and offhand?
I'm close to getting a ring made only because I can't seem to get any
royal lantern
its 418, chances are really really really high that its your best mh for the next few months @vital vale
spice spire
Crafting suggestions are in the faq
vital vale
392 and still can't get into anything higher than a 10 to get those freaking primal infusions
vital vale
your right
tacit otter
do we use amp or deadly poison on council?
mystic fractal
when do you use puzzle box in the opener?
orchid tree
When do I melee
royal lantern
when do i exist
glass junco
!log
neon oxide
when
thorny pond
If you talent it you use Amp,
If you are using Box, check #assassination-faq >before you RC Rupture
You don't melee, you let blade guide you
You think, therefor you are
no
neon oxide
i dont wanna play KB/IC but it still seems like it will be better than not running IC
thin gate
do we use amp or deadly poison on council?
deadly for sure
u ct rather than envenom
and reapply rupture
so i think deadly beats AMP here
strange python
Other than Fenrir, hov seems like an obvious Sin key to me
cedar mist
Everything is a Sin key if you just want to play Sin
strange python
Tyrannical Fenrir is really unfriendly without double vanish or outlaw cdr on vanish
balmy condor
did u change the shirt?
Nope just got rid of the Santa hat
thorn crater
feels darker coloring
spice surge
Does assa silence stop the shield on first boss in RLP or is it only wailing arrow
thorn crater
must be getting old
strange python
Does assa silence stop the shield on first boss in RLP or is it only wailing arr...
Only arrow
Afaik
dire flame
Please...
strange python
Whispyr
It's been five days. Why no new builds
We should already have new tech on top of the new tech we just got
thorny pond
he has perfected the build
balmy condor
It's been five days. Why no new builds
Because spreadsheet updated yep
tacit otter
deadly for sure
then i was doing it right, ty
spice surge
Need some more 5 am red bull powerspikes for new builds
cunning locust
!whispyr
prisma monolithBOT
Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev
balmy condor
Need some more 5 am red bull powerspikes for new builds
Amen
spice spire
God bless
thorny pond
Where do we donate to the Whispyr energy drink fund at?
balmy condor
Where do we donate to the Whispyr energy drink fund at?
Just give the money to your mom I’ll grab it next time I stop by