assassination

[gusty mirage]

is moroes broken?

[limber lion]

[gusty mirage]

!poisonbug

[trim zinc]

u guys killed the bot;-;

[gusty mirage]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[gusty mirage]

what the fuck moroes

[limber lion]

Maybe that command didn't transfer over to the new database or whatever

[gusty mirage]

wasn't it pb? am I high?

[limber lion]

when that happened a few months ago

idk

[spice spire]

!garrote

[outer cairn]

!pi

[vestal wren]

could be that i removed some old commands with beta and accidentally some of the still relevant ones

[limber lion]

All good

[gusty mirage]

I'm just gonna blame @spice spire

[slim hamlet]

Is this just the dtb poison removal bug?

or is there something new

[spice spire]

[slim hamlet]

"poison bug"

[spice spire]

Something older

[slim hamlet]

How is that a huh moment

[spice spire]

Poisons not applying with garrote etc

hUhh was to oxi

[slim hamlet]

oh

Never heard of that

[vestal wren]

but if there is something relevant, just let mo or one of the shadowblades know and he adds/updates it

[slim hamlet]

Sounds so edgy

"let one of the shadowblades know"

[subtle tundra]

daggers from 4 shadowmoons

go shadowmoon guys

[vestal wren]

well all of them have permissions to add/edit bot commands

[slim hamlet]

Varas out here straight out admiting to hacking

[slim hamlet]

Yeah it was just the name shadowblades in that context

[subtle tundra]

im giving you the hacks

go aboose

shadowmoon has 3 drops

[gusty mirage]

!pb

[prisma monolith]

Deadly Poison doesn't apply on some casts like Garrote, Rupture, and Shiv.
It's a minor bug but "notable" in that it does have some noticeable impact on DPS.
Should be around a 100-200 dps loss

[gusty mirage]

@limber lion

[subtle tundra]

it can drop dagger waist hands

[gusty mirage]

pb/poisonbug works

[limber lion]

So now pb works

okay cool cool

[cerulean nest]

lots of people using DTB huh?

[slim hamlet]

It's just better

sadly

[vestal wren]

^ its good

[cerulean nest]

does it change the opener/rotation at all?

[slim hamlet]

Yep

[cerulean nest]

shiv on CD

i imagine

[slim hamlet]

Opener at least

It's in faq

[cerulean nest]

ah I see it added, ty

[outer cairn]

yeah its shiv on cd with dtb

[next edge]

Outside opener

Feel DTB is really easy to manage

To a solid level

[slim hamlet]

DTB is sleep

[outer cairn]

well with like all bis it also does more

[cerulean nest]

still kyrian on cd

?

[outer cairn]

but yeah hectic fights and stuff still easier

yeah you should ER on cd, but obviously don't overcap on CPs

[cerulean nest]

yup

kk sounds easy

same tea rules too? tea with CDs or when starved

[outer cairn]

basically. whispyr put a note about tea in the faq

[peak bobcat]

I wonder if ER rupture after SnD is good in the opener

It feels good

[swift moss]

If you are playing KB in raid with ER do you hold every echoing for the 15 sec to sync with KB along with 2 shivs?

[gusty mirage]

I mean I've done both

seems about the same

nice to get a fatty rupture up asap tho

[peak bobcat]

ER rupt into DM shiv feels so nice

[kindred rapids]

Jpcjr had to go and log Kurog

Not cool

[outer cairn]

i mean if you hold ER, you technically lose a cast of it every 3 ERs

but

idk if that matters

[trim zinc]

wont u lose a cast at the end?? if u do that?

[peak bobcat]

I wouldn’t hold ER ever

[cold rampart]

any blacksmith boys? making daggers

[peak bobcat]

You’re not gaining anything from holding it

[outer cairn]

i never have. i tseems to come up righ thwen i need to refresh rupture

oh look, easy 7cp rupture

[kindred rapids]

Dunno if it's optimal but I've been doing this

[swift moss]

Didn’t know if it would be worth to squeeze more envenoms into the KB + double shiv window

[lunar furnace]

How big of a deal is haste for sin?

[peak bobcat]

Not at all

[lunar furnace]

Sick

I have 7%

[peak bobcat]

I’m at 5% haste

[lunar furnace]

Nice

[peak bobcat]

And I have something to press every global

[outer cairn]

I think I saw JPC do this with DtB. He seems to garrote, sbs, snd, er, rupture, dm shiv

[lunar furnace]

I’m trying to do outlaw and sin multi spec and was curious about gear

[peak bobcat]

It’s the best feeling opener by far

[lunar furnace]

I’m trying to get the opener down and struggling

[outer cairn]

it seems a bit easier than mut/amb building, then rupture

when you ER, your CP lands on 3-4?

then you rupture for 7cps

[lunar furnace]

Are you guys using exsanguinate still?

[outer cairn]

then shiv probably get you to the 2nd CP and envenom

[lavish linden]

Depends on the build right

[royal lantern]

10%haste is 1 more energy reg

that means if you have 10%haste you can do 1more mutilate every 50seconds

BIGGEST STONKS

[outer cairn]

Exsang is for KB

[lunar furnace]

Yeah that’s what I currently have going

Idk which build to go with

[peak bobcat]

No

Use DTB if you’re learning

[lunar furnace]

Thanks dad

I’m sin child tbh

[gusty mirage]

dtb also has the perks of being slightly ahead too

so

[lunar furnace]

Very used to outlaw

[gusty mirage]

2 birds one stone

[royal lantern]

bruh, "dtb for learning" sounds stupid af lol

KB is 2 more buttons, 1 with 1min and 1with 3min cd lol

[outer cairn]

play what you want. my sims have each build only ~200 dps within each other. KB is just more buttons to press

[slim hamlet]

dtb is infinitely easier

[next edge]

2 man you in middle

Make me happy

[trim zinc]

ya lol, on kb is like
just use 2 charges of shiv on kb

[gusty mirage]

bro?

[next edge]

Dtb is way easier indeed

[royal lantern]

you guys make that shit sound like rocket science when its litearlly almost no difference

you slam kb every min

the end

[next edge]

Thought it was our dms sorry

[slim hamlet]

It isntt a target dummy Tryan

[next edge]

Tryan on copium

[lunar furnace]

The opener with kb seems more complicated

[outer cairn]

reason i have him blocked

[royal lantern]

this channel turns into #outlaw

[lunar furnace]

Idk if that’s just me though

[fair stag]

Hey guys… is the neck still worth crafting

[royal lantern]

is assa fotm now?

[slim hamlet]

Yeah they play it in rwf

Now we going

[royal lantern]

shit

[outer cairn]

believe so. i got one

[royal lantern]

bye channel, its gonna be unusable for 3months now

[peak bobcat]

Echo playing outlaw

[royal lantern]

fk

[slim hamlet]

More sin fights than either sub or outlaw

[slim hamlet]

Just because they do in the current fight doesnt mean they use it in general

[peak bobcat]

They’re all good

[slim hamlet]

Yea

[lunar furnace]

Outlaw is good for first few fights

[slim hamlet]

Sin is just better on more fights than the others

[gusty mirage]

perfecto is playing assa

[lunar furnace]

Lots of big cleave

[peak bobcat]

Perfecto is playing DH

[lunar furnace]

But after that I think it’ll be sin/sub

[peak bobcat]

[gusty mirage]

I was just watching them

he was on his rog

[slim hamlet]

Sin is better for first 3 fights

[gusty mirage]

plot twist

[lunar furnace]

Even council?

[gusty mirage]

all 3 are good in raid

[slim hamlet]

Council aint what im thinking about as first 3

[gusty mirage]

and yes for every boss

[peak bobcat]

You can be top dps on every single fight

[gusty mirage]

even if more annoying to play

[peak bobcat]

On every single spec

[broken flame]

do i use shiv on cd with the tempered blades build

[slim hamlet]

Eranog, terros, sennarth

[gusty mirage]

IT'S OUR TIME BOYs

CELEBRATE

[peak bobcat]

Yup save one for DM

[slim hamlet]

[gusty mirage]

you got somethin to say pvper?

[sudden sigil]

Are you guys still crafting Dagger?

After the nerf or?

[slim hamlet]

I havnt stepped into an arena in years

[broken flame]

thx

[slim hamlet]

[gusty mirage]

what nerf

[peak bobcat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1052624266400637058/image.png

[sudden sigil]

Binding thingy

[slim hamlet]

Motther of god

[peak bobcat]

The way life should be

[gusty mirage]

that aint a nerf homie

[slim hamlet]

Omega sketch on 1st day

But still all 3

[gusty mirage]

but yes you still make the dagger

with the fangs

or don't

it's like 0.3% difference

[sudden sigil]

Got it

[slim hamlet]

Im so happy I bought tons of mats before reset

[gusty mirage]

make dagger because group loot fucking SUCKS

[peak bobcat]

Did they fix the embellished shit?

[gusty mirage]

and you get 3 off hands on a boss

[gusty mirage]

lmao no

[slim hamlet]

Everything has gone up by 3-400% in 24 hours on eu

[peak bobcat]

Can I recraft yet and put an embellishment

[sudden sigil]

Primal molten shortbalde aye?

[gusty mirage]

oh that

[kindred rapids]

I'm just gonna use dtb unless there's a good reason not too

[gusty mirage]

that was just for jewelcrafters apparently

[peak bobcat]

Hm

[slim hamlet]

Smart

[peak bobcat]

DTB is better

[gusty mirage]

I was able to recraft missives just fine

so seems a-okay for bsmithing

[peak bobcat]

Sick

[slim hamlet]

Not always but yes

Im gonna do KB 100% on egg queen

Also all others but thats just because KB is happy and dtb is zzz

[peak bobcat]

Egg queen is an illusion

That fight is actually 100% ST

[slim hamlet]

Yes?

Well

[kindred rapids]

what's egg queen

[slim hamlet]

No but yes I get what you mean

[mystic fractal]

are we playing exsang in the kb+ic build for m+? it isn't in the import but I see it in the opener png

[kindred rapids]

diurna?

[slim hamlet]

Diurna

[peak bobcat]

Not hitting the boss as a rogue for 100% of the fight is trolling

[slim hamlet]

faq also has trees

[gusty mirage]

tell that to my RL who kept yelling at me to swap to the adds that died in 30s

[slim hamlet]

Yes imma have to explain that to my rl

[gusty mirage]

[peak bobcat]

I swapped to them with one bone spike

[mystic fractal]

yes, and the tree for m+ kb/ic does not have exsang

[slim hamlet]

AHAHA legit what happened for me

Like to the point

[astral flax]

does anybody in here do assass coaching? i cant get above 20k dps on the dummy lmao

[gusty mirage]

fucking ran my stupid ass across the room

to dps for 2s

[slim hamlet]

huh

it dont?

[gusty mirage]

then ran my stupid ass back across the room

[kindred rapids]

oh man

[slim hamlet]

I did DTB which only has one SS

That shit was rough

[mystic fractal]

#assassination-faq message

[gusty mirage]

[slim hamlet]

Next time imma go KB and right click boss

[gusty mirage]

you can just take exsang over MA

its preference

[slim hamlet]

At least as long as adds insta die

[ancient peak]

if anyone can craft me an elemental lariat neck with my mats I will love you forever

[gusty mirage]

they're that close after the exsang nerf in m+

[strange python]

is it ok to put a rank 2 tiered medallion instead of a rank 3 on my neck?

like will that affect future upgrades to the item somwhow or not

[shut owl]

I managed to be the worst sin rogue on terros last night. feelsbad

[slim hamlet]

Rough

[peak bobcat]

It’s day one brothers

You will get better

[kindred rapids]

my RL told me just to hit boss

[slim hamlet]

good rl

[kindred rapids]

fun fight 🙂

literally just sitting on diurna for 3 minutes doing no mechanics

[slim hamlet]

I swear so many of the bosses on normal has omega downtime

[peak bobcat]

Which

[slim hamlet]

where youre more or less just doing rotation with 0 thought

Totem boi

Diurna

[peak bobcat]

Use cloak to continue uptime

[kindred rapids]

big spider?

[slim hamlet]

To an extend terros

[peak bobcat]

I save my bone spikes for totem boy

When you have to run out

[slim hamlet]

Oh

Didnt mean that kind of downtime

Meant like there is a lot of times where youre just hitting boss

nothing happening

[peak bobcat]

Welcome to melee dps

[limpid ermine]

I felt this last night in Normal. Literally just turned my brain off and did my rotation for 4 minutes

[kindred rapids]

welcome to normal lol

who's totem boy

[slim hamlet]

We legit had like 1 whole min with nothing going on in last phase diurna

[limpid ermine]

also true lol

[slim hamlet]

And the adds on totem boy is just zzz

in normal

again

[solid mica]

Do gems stay when you recraft?

[slim hamlet]

Fuck around and find out

The crafter should be able to see the item it will become

so he can see it

[kindred rapids]

they should

kurogs a pretty banger fight imo

[slim hamlet]

Will be

We doing heroic later

cant wait

[kindred rapids]

GL

don't get blasted in the face by ice like I did

[peak bobcat]

@gusty mirage my broodkeeper logs banned for Pi

Didn’t ask for it either

EXCESSIVE externals

[kindred rapids]

rogues getting PI

feels weird

[peak bobcat]

I played sub on council and got Pi

Literally useless

Logs banned for nothing

[ancient peak]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[strange python]

Do we maximize bleeds mefore shiving or is that a exsang only thing?

[trim zinc]

what u mean by banned logs?

if u get pi it doesnt count?

[mystic fractal]

given SBS is a permadot, is it fire once and forget on single target, or do you use it for energy efficient cp gen?

[trim zinc]

dont cap it

[mystic fractal]

ok, thanks

[crisp cipher]

so we're using spark on neck?

[mystic fractal]

been a full expansion since I've played sin, we have a lot of buttons now 🙂

[fallen sandal]

can we sim the dagger with embilshment ?

[peak bobcat]

Yeah if you get more than 1 every 2 minutes basically

[oblique kiln]

So much vers gear in this raid what the heck man

[tranquil stirrup]

Hi, in DTB opener, when is the best time to use Puzzle Box Trinket ?

[dark token]

before

[peak bobcat]

Before DM

[steel sorrel]

@dark token Do your Lariat only procc critt aswell?

[tranquil stirrup]

ok, tnx 🙂

[red tinsel]

I know Haste is a bad secondary, but no haste is equally terrible, right?

How much haste should I aim to have? Like 15% more or less?

[dusk summit]

Why is it that assa rogues getting nerfs yet there are other classes that out perform us on virtually every scale as well as sims?

[red tinsel]

And is there an soft cap for crit?

[trim zinc]

theres no stats break point

[dark token]

which one is this

[trim zinc]

just sim your character

[trim zinc]

and dont use stats weights pls

[steel sorrel]

earth is mastery I think

[trim zinc]

its bad

[dark token]

yup

so my crit/mast gems are giving me mastery proc

noice

[steel sorrel]

My mastery/crit give crit

[dark token]

yes

it gives ur secondary stat

on the gem

[arctic bobcat]

are there any bosses for the Vault that normal kingsbane build wont be ideal against?

[dark token]

not the primary one

[steel sorrel]

Mabye I should change then

[gusty mirage]

We’re getting bullied

[grim tangle]

why did you steal my profile picture

[gusty lance]

Hello, i got a small question, i puzzle before Deathmark and Kingsbane ?

[peak bobcat]

kb is fine on every boss

[peak bobcat]

yes

[gusty lance]

Alright thanks

[thorn crater]

ok sin feels rly good up to 15

havent done anythign higher than 14 though

also, what pots should i buy

only saw phials on the sheet

[dusk summit]

Sims for m+ should be done in Dungeon Slice correct?

[thorn crater]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[feral wasp]

do you have any recommondations for poor rogues out there who cannot afford sophic 😄

[dark token]

dont use an enchant

they are all minium 18k

i suggest farming

[feral wasp]

i can earn money and buy token in shorter time

might wanna do that i guess

[outer cairn]

Oh really? I thought it was random. that sucks.

[meager arch]

what does bronzed grip wrappings do?

[supple snow]

yo guys, anyone knows a good plater ?

[outer cairn]

cevs still works pretty well for me

[supple snow]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-gif-25166150

[astral star]

which 2 posions do i use? amplifying and deadly?

[solemn mason]

why do we sync deathmark and vanish?

[trim zinc]

imp garrote in DM

[pale plank]

where is this from?

[sturdy mesa]

what's the dmg difference between r2 and r3 Fang adornments? ^^

[solemn mason]

ahhh tyty

[supple dove]

why do lots of people prefer Assa in pure ST fights, when sub sims higher? or is it a bait?

[trim zinc]

do they?

[supple dove]

if you ask, most of them say Assa is BiS for pure ST

[trim zinc]

but like in dtb build, u use vanish to refresh the first garrote, so its not 100% synced

[pure spoke]

does WCL really not have a copy build function yet

[jade wadi]

what's everyone been feeling for raid. dragon tempered or kingsbane?

[peak bobcat]

It doesn’t

[trim zinc]

i mean, do sub sims higher?

ya like it doesnt

[trim zinc]

all builds in faq or sheet

[wheat siren]

when should i use algethar puzzle box trinket in my ST rotation?

[raven hawk]

playing kingsbane gives you many extra buttons but both are good

[candid slate]

does anyone have a google docs where we can see what every spec(overall, not only rogue) gain from sets please?

[odd heath]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[candid slate]

this one I know, thank you!
but someone linked spreadsheet with all of the classes and I cannot find it anywhere

[topaz valley]

What’s m+ dtb single target opener ? Same as FAQ without SBS?

[flint summit]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[outer cairn]

i don't understand why lariat only chooses secondary stat on gem.

[topaz valley]

Or do we double garotte instead of garotte sbs

[arctic bobcat]

OK cool thanks

[slate aurora]

Anyone know the name of the cheap weapon enchant for us?? Dont fancy spending a million gold on the recommended ones

[outer cairn]

sophic writ

[unreal epoch]

After the DTB opener, is there anything we need to line up the rest of the fight? Or are we just pressing stuff on CD

[outer cairn]

build doesn't have sbs, you could double garrote for max imp garrote time, snd, er, rupture, dm

[silk acorn]

Do i use deadly poison or amp poison?

[spice spire]

Amp if talented

[outer cairn]

but don't need to cause you have vanish and can just refresh it

[cold rampart]

guys spider boss stuck on 1 hp wtf?

[severe oyster]

Guys. I have 2 Sparks and a Primal infusion, but haven't looked at crafting much. Should I use infusion on neck and just use sparks on weapons at this point? Or should I just keep doing m+ and wait

Currently still have 372 weapons and wrathion neck

[peak bobcat]

I used mine for neck and weapon as they will eventually be bis anyways

[outer cairn]

you can safely craft primal molten shortblade

I'm just wondering what gems we should use since lariat seems to only give us extra mastery with the crit/mast gem

[severe oyster]

So the play is probably 2 daggers one with wrappings and elemental lariat at 405 then

[peak bobcat]

If you have a primal it’s probably worth to slam a dagger now

[outer cairn]

Raid dagger is BIS MH

[dark token]

i infused 405 weapon, crafted a regular 392 neck

gonna recraft the 392 with an infusion after raid tonight

[severe oyster]

Does quality matter for the wrappings? Or is it just to make the crafting easier?

[dark token]

it makes the craft easier

which is big

[mystic fractal]

man IC feels so strong in m+

[outer cairn]

I believe the quality affects difficulty only. which 15 vs 20 could mean the difference between rank 5 or rank 4. depends on teh crafter

[severe oyster]

Yeah. Quality 3 is only 50k so whatever might as well buy it

[dark token]

how much are you pulling overall

[feral wasp]

what drake buff we take =

[spice spire]

In academy?

If so, crit

[arctic bobcat]

In the kingsbane opener since vanish and then garrote is used before exsang, when you then death mark, KB envenom should you be looking to apply garrote and rupture again quickly since exsanguinate will have bled it fast and also you want the double bleed from death mark?

[peak bobcat]

You don’t want to overwrite the exsang bleeds until the last second

[limber lion]

You reapply exsanguinated bleeds after they've dropped. You do not overwrite them early.

Deathmark will duplicate the Exsanguinated bleeds

You got a good 8s or something on garrote during Deathmark, it's not super duper urgent

[strange silo]

with dtb we use envenom like normal max cp or -1 right? we dont wait for the 10 stacks?

[arctic bobcat]

Ah ok cool, just let them bleed out, so after the opener it's just rolling into more envenoms and then bleeds and cds later

[icy cliff]

can some1 paste the 4target assa talent which whispy simmed

[outer cairn]

rule of thumb is improved garrotes and exsanguinated bleeds always let them fall off before reapplying because you would otherwise miss that last tick of damage if you refresh it to early

[brazen fern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

The following is a general recommendation, but you will always get more accurate results through simming your gear through Top Gear.
Crit >= Mastery > Haste > Versatility
Note: In high mythic+ keys, you may want more Versatility to survive. While you may see this on high end players gear, this is generally worse DPS. For pure DPS, Versatility is mostly avoided.

[craggy river]

Hey guys I’m a sin noob.. what is big difference between kingsbane build and dragon-temp?

[outer cairn]

exsanguinate and kingsbane

[peak bobcat]

Your soul

[copper gyro]

wowhead keeps suggesting DTB for most dungeons in m+ scenarios, i've played one or two with that build now but it just seems inferior that indis carnage.. anyone feel the same?

[flat jasper]

Whats the name of the crit food?

[gusty mirage]

filet of fangs

[flat jasper]

thanks

[gusty mirage]

[peak bobcat]

Fortune cookies ftw

[sand elm]

IC has better aoe and dtb has better st. theyre both more than usable in m+. just a matter of what ur group wants/needs or what u prefer

[gusty mirage]

I wish it wouldn't litter my fucking inventory with cards every time I ate one though

or if they'd at least be grey quality so they auto vendor

[peak bobcat]

1 gold

Good value

[gusty mirage]

you haven't gotten the 10g fortunes yet?

[peak bobcat]

No wtf

I’m getting SCAMMED

[gusty mirage]

ye certain ones vendor for 10g

[outer cairn]

shit better give me lottery numbers for 10g

[supple dove]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[gusty mirage]

!pb

the poison bug from SL has been fixed friends

rejoice

[pliant nest]

how big of a gain is windfury for us?

[supple dove]

maybe i get something wrong, but fuu spreadsheet says sub sims higher in ST, but i am also stupid 😄

[misty holly]

There was a poison bug?

[vestal wren]

4-5%

[gusty mirage]

about 5%

[hollow river]

[craggy river]

I don’t have a soul? But for real is it just rotation/ease of use?

[peak bobcat]

DTB is very simple

[gusty mirage]

yes, rupture, garrote, and shiv weren't applying poisons

[vestal wren]

was fixed in beta, but people wheren't sure earlier if its still exist on live so just double checked it

[hollow river]

I noticed my garrotes were applying poisons last night

[upbeat hazel]

are trinkets simming properly on raidbots?

[limber lion]

What does that mean?

Can you elaborate?

[upbeat hazel]

i think its a pretty clear yes or no question

[limber lion]

I think it's a dumb question

The answer is yes

[dark token]

/cast[@Mouseover,exists, harm][] Serrated Bone Spike```

[limber lion]

Why wouldn't they sim properly?

[dark token]

this macro isnt working idk why

[upbeat hazel]

ok 👍

[limber lion]

Add a space between /cast and [

:-)

[dark token]

ffs

[gusty mirage]

[dark token]

man sbs cp is super delayed

or maybe cause terros super far?

[peak bobcat]

Yeah it doesn’t count the CP until it hits

[thorn crater]

ring dropped on first boss

but fuckin warlock got it 😗

all mages are arcane/frost

would have got it otherwise sadge

[peak bobcat]

Today is heroic loot

[burnt latch]

not bad after normal clear boys

the dream is alive hc left

[subtle tundra]

wtf

my guild gives everyone 2pc first week

and then 4pc 2nd week

[peak bobcat]

Same

[burnt latch]

we are splitting and healers and tanks arent getting any tier

[peak bobcat]

Well yeah same

[burnt latch]

so i had little competition

[hexed root]

man I hope I get 2 or 4 pc this week just to keep up w/ everyone next week

[subtle tundra]

i mean same

[hexed root]

no splits qq

[subtle tundra]

i guess if we get omega lucky on our tier

i can get

but like

i dont see that

[burnt latch]

3 rogue tier pieces dropped

managed to get all

pog

[hexed root]

we had... 3 total, 2 of 1, 1 of the other, and I think all of them went to separate people. Ha

[peak bobcat]

We had 4 zenith drop

I got 2, warrior got 2

[hexed root]

hype

So for crafting we're still looking at neck/oh?
Elemental Lariat Neck (+1.1%)

• Fang Adornments Offhand (+0.8%)

[peak bobcat]

Make the dagger

[hexed root]

yea, that's the plan. I got HoV dagger last night, planning to craft the OH today.

[tulip kernel]

ass in m+ has too many buttons smh

[spice spire]

Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

[wary ice]

In the #assassination-faq it says at 6 targets CT can be the CP dump - is it still worth envenoming to maintain buff at these target counts?

[crisp cipher]

Are we no longer playing in DTB build for raids?

[bronze hinge]

@crisp cipher not according to the fuu spreadsheet ST build https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9V7XGk7Add5g3AJDoTSLD3

[crisp cipher]

Cheers I'll have a look

[thorn fjord]

It’s what @spice spire said yesterday dtb is much easier to play for prog purposes

Less buttons

Easier to handle mechanics

Raid has been super fun so far

[spice spire]

It’s also just better simming for some

DTB is probably what I bring regardless week one since I have to do callouts

[thorn fjord]

It’s simming less than KB for me but I ran it last night and topped most fights

Was really easy to play

[spice spire]

Been doing the KB opener, so I gotta get used to a very chill opener

[thorn fjord]

I’ll start really min maxing with more gear

[peak bobcat]

I play DTB because I don’t inflict self harm

[thorn fjord]

Yeah the dtb opener is cake

[spice spire]

Yeah buddy I’m my own mental terrorist what of it

[peak bobcat]

We just make sure you don’t go over the edge

We accept it now

[thorn fjord]

Pugging 10+ CoS’s has been a nightmare tho

[spice spire]

Buddy sha on a 9 ate my ass. Raw dog style. Was not a good time

[severe oyster]

@peak bobcat Well went with 405 weapon and 392 neck. Cost a bit more than I was expecting, but probably worth it.

[spice spire]

Touch of nothingness

[thorn fjord]

Lolol

[peak bobcat]

Yeah the dagger is expensive as fuck

[thorn fjord]

You get spoiled by end of expansion pugs

[peak bobcat]

You’re going to see some big gains in the dps dept

[thorn fjord]

All the baddies are back at it now

[severe oyster]

Hopefully. Think it was about 500k for everything, but can't complain.

[thorn fjord]

Big money baller

I’m dropping some cash on tokens at some point this week lol

[peak bobcat]

500k for a rank 3 sophic devotion

That’s what it feels like

[analog oasis]

is there a WA for tricks?

[severe oyster]

I went with rank 2 sophic lol. I'll spend 500k on a weapon and neck + gems etc, but not for a single enchant lol

[hexed root]

anyone have luck w/ the work order system? Are they specific to the server? Struggling to find someone to make the 405 dagger

[rugged warren]

server specific

[hexed root]

oof

[silk bane]

yall rich af ngl. I just raw dogged heroic last night no enchant no crafted no phials nothing... still topping charts cuz assa be goated

[peak bobcat]

It’s pretty fucking wild that if I spend $20 I can enchant ONLY my daggers

[silk bane]

The enchants insane though... frozen devotion did like 8-10% of our fury warr's damage. thats kinda nutz ngl

[hexed root]

i'm trying to

[silk bane]

sophics simming even higher

[silk bane]

sheeeeeeshh. your outlaw parsedhigher than mine cuz I cant play thaqt shit xD

[quaint dragon]

s whats best to craft rn?

[hexed root]

dagger if you can

[hexed root]

aoe boss qq. it was such a sloppy kill too xD

[quaint dragon]

not the neck?

[hexed root]

dagger or neck, weps hype.

[silk bane]

dude right? I just afk'd next to the pillars pretty much cuz people kept dropping the shit on me so I could never leave LMFAO

[quaint dragon]

the bronze wrappings one?

[peak bobcat]

Fang

[hexed root]

check the FAQ and pins, it has some info on the crafts, thats what I checked earlier

appears to be up to date/accurate

[quaint dragon]

but bronze sim better no?

[hexed root]

pins

[dark token]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[lusty widget]

I see that elemental lariot is probably bis, but man this wrathion neck is gonna hurt to replace lol

[pulsar fog]

Yeah none of the necks that drop are any good lol

[peak bobcat]

Wrathion neck is low ilevel

[hexed root]

that's why I'm after dagger first, bigger upgrade.

[thorn crater]

do we have news about our spec with bronzed?

[hexed root]

til 389 is low

[peak bobcat]

Dagger is worth so much more anyways

[pulsar fog]

For a neck it's not that big a deal honestly, still sims better than all the heroic necks for me

[hexed root]

just need to find a dang blacksmith that can actually make 405 dagger

[quaint dragon]

where do u guys get ur primal infusion from?

[tardy lance]

Sorry if it's been pinned

but what seems to pull ahead in DPS in M+ between Kingsbane + Carnage vs DTB?

[peak bobcat]

Normal Raz, m+

[peak bobcat]

Both are very close

[tardy lance]

Is it more on preference?

[peak bobcat]

Close enough yeah

[pulsar fog]

Low keys dtb will be best, higher keys and/or organised group kb+ic should pull ahead

[hexed root]

any blacksiths on illidan?

[peak bobcat]

Any blacksmiths on alliance whisperwind

[thin gate]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[severe oyster]

Hmm 58k overall in m+ after upgrades. Kept up with an MM hunter. Not sure if good though.

[hidden crown]

we use amp poison now right?

[modern dust]

Which one seems to be ahead currently, outlaw or Assassination? Enjoying both play styles myself

[subtle tundra]

not a very good class to compare to if you want to know if you do well

[wet galleon]

Take your pick on specs. Its a coin toss and all are good

[severe oyster]

For sure. I need to do more m+ tonight to see if it's worth staying assassination in it

[wet galleon]

I was scrolling through top 10 rogues and I saw at least 1 sin rogue on raider io

[subtle tundra]

its the first day

lol

[wet galleon]

Kinda why I was saying take your pick/play what you enjoy. Early signs is all 3 specs are competitive

[shell kraken]

If we are at Max CP-1 do we use finisher or builder?

[vagrant tapir]

So

[hexed root]

I'm ready:

[dark token]

broodkeeper dumbest boss in existance

run around kill adds for 6 min with no mechanics

xD

run back to boss only for next add wave to spawn

[warm parcel]

[hexed root]

sim for me for sophic 2 to sophic 3 is only ~200 dps lol

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fpxdM889tkMY8TAK1WyMFb

[silk bane]

I noticed that too. from 2 to 3 isnt that big.

[vagrant tapir]

[uncut dragon]

So sparks of ingenuity? Spend on daggers early?

[vagrant tapir]

something + lariat

[dark token]

dagger + lariat

[uncut dragon]

No reason not to just make a dagger now since you can just recraft, right?

[earnest imp]

So, did you guys run a cleave assa build on council?

I just wiffed that so hard as assa as i dont really perform well on outlaw right now

[dark token]

no i played sub

[hexed root]

I went outlaw for that boss

[dark token]

which is way easier + bigger cleave dps

it feels like sin with multidot rupture anyway

except ur rupture hits 2t

[hexed root]

I should try that

[warm parcel]

man assa feels weird after a long break

[earnest imp]

is it one dance or two that you run

[dark token]

1 dance

i just ran the m+ build

with agonizing poison

[earnest imp]

idk, aids fight

just lemme assa 😦

[dark token]

i played assa ST every fight

except outlaw broodkeeper

sub council

felt pretty good

[hexed root]

why outlaw brood vs sub/sin?

[dusty zenith]

I feel like the IC/KB mythic build doesnt do alot fo dps on higher keys

[dark token]

cause melee ran around and killed adds

the entire fight

about 5-10% boss uptime

i could have played sub but outlaw has more mobility

• better on demand dmg for every pack

[hexed root]

gotcha

[dense cedar]

what can I replace exsanguinate for?

or is it still needed for the st/execute build

[upbeat hazel]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[earnest imp]

so what did you test around with

[dense cedar]

ty

[subtle tundra]

ok 2pc'd up

[brazen zodiac]

pog

[subtle tundra]

also this

i LOVE master loot

no cap!

[tough whale]

Whats master loot :^)

[brazen zodiac]

lol

[subtle tundra]

the loot gets assigned

its not random

i get given

[tough whale]

Ik what it means, im just still mad blizzard removed the actual ML

[proper tapir]

Finish, never force max CP. If you are in Gar pandemic or need to shiv then you could send them, but don't blast Muti/Amb/SBS just for max CP.

[dark token]

jpc?

[earnest imp]

so you reckon sin cant funnel at Broodkeeper?

[dire steeple]

Do you play dragon tempered with 2p ? : - )

[earnest imp]

in mythic progress

[dark token]

no 2p

[dire steeple]

[dark token]

1 weapon enchant

[amber sleet]

What emb are people running?

[grizzled jay]

i put burning writ on my oh lol

dirt cheap

[dark token]

is it? 18k

devotion is 35k

[thorn fjord]

writ 3 22k on mine

[grizzled jay]

burning writ? i got it for like 5k

lol

Illidan privilege i guess

[bronze hinge]

$20 for top dps? easiest decision i ever made

[novel arrow]

Does anyone know softcap on mastery and versatility?

[dark token]

fuck have to add my 2nd enchant now

my bank hurts

[oblique tangle]

Ayo

Are we DTB or IC for Life-Pools?

[winter gale]

Do we also have some sharpening stones or something similar this expansion?

[oblique tangle]

Yes, we have sharpening stones

[dark token]

buzzing stones

[winter gale]

Whats the name of that item?

[oblique tangle]

(If you're too poor to afford those, there are also literal sharpening stones that increasea ttack power)

[dark token]

these are cheap

like 30-100g

2 hours

[oblique tangle]

Oh that's not bad at all

[restive falcon]

how do u get fang adornments again

[next edge]

ok im 2pc

im juiced

[dark token]

[restive falcon]

i got my lariat crafted and i wanna craft a dagger now but idk how to get the embellishment

[fleet atlas]

Does anyone know if jcs are able to garentee 392 right now? Or should I go with one that just has a chance for my elemental lariat?

[small meteor]

auction house

[trim zinc]

do i have to buy 2 rank3?? to lariat

[opaque brook]

hey guys, im new to sin pve, im currently running KB and IC mythic build... what does "pandemic" mean? like garrote being in pandemic

[trim zinc]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[trim zinc]

here bud

[opaque brook]

thanks. is that a talent? i just didnt see it anywhere in game

[fleet atlas]

Pandemic timers is just something inherent in the game. It gets its name from the ability pandemic back in the day

[trim zinc]

no its just a game mechanic

[strange python]

@limber lion when kb build gets better than dtb?

[opaque brook]

oh ok thanks

[strange python]

was it 4pc?

[trim zinc]

tier set makes dtb even better

[willow vine]

1 rank 2 1 rank 3

[trim zinc]

ttyty

[willow vine]

20k on ur server lol

Hell fuckin naw HAHA

[silk bane]

why 1 rank 2 1 rank 3? not sure how the thingy works

[fleet atlas]

1 rank 2 to give it its second slot and 1 rank 3 to give it its third

[willow vine]

^

You skip first rank cus it comes with a slot already

[silk bane]

Oh I see! sweet thanks!

[modest glen]

anything new on bronze grips vs fangs? thinking of just going fangs

[fleet atlas]

If the healing thing is true bronze grips are kinda bad I think. If it is true hopefully blizz makes it not proc off leech

[limber lion]

DTB is the better overall build, especially with 2p. Kingsbane might be simming higher without tier set but DTB will definitely pull ahead with 2p+

[strange python]

I have 4 figuring out what to play

to master

for mythic

[opaque brook]

i was about to ask the same question, after reading about exsang community hate haha. what is 2p tho? again sorry im pretty new

[drifting cloud]

2 piece tier set

[opaque brook]

oh, duh lol. the raid set im assuming?

[brazen zodiac]

u can read the tier pieces in the faq too

pretty pictures of em up :D

[grim tree]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

The following is a general recommendation, but you will always get more accurate results through simming your gear through Top Gear.
Crit >= Mastery > Haste > Versatility
Note: In high mythic+ keys, you may want more Versatility to survive. While you may see this on high end players gear, this is generally worse DPS. For pure DPS, Versatility is mostly avoided.

[sudden sigil]

So how you guys likingh assa in raid?

[steel ridge]

assa is blasting

[sudden sigil]

Been doing it in m+ aswell?

[steel ridge]

nope

might try it tho, since i got my 405 weapon now

[shadow sequoia]

Chat 😦 I'm in big trouble

[true rapids]

I've been having fun in m+ only did up to a +8 thoug

[hexed root]

im thinking of trying sub for m+ because 405 dagger

[steel ridge]

oh right sub is a thing aswell

[opaque brook]

i didnt scroll that far down lmao. mb xD

[true rapids]

seeing lots of good parses and I dont see IC in their talent loadouts is DTB better lol?

[next edge]

I have to say

the raid is fkng cool

Grimtotem is such an amazing boss

[steel ridge]

m+ parses?!

[true rapids]

i guess parses is the wrong word

[shadow sequoia]

GUYS!!!! I need ur help, every1 is playin assassination for raids, and I have no idea what assassination is... this spec needs to get modified it's so difficult and ppl don't know how to explain anything, help

[brazen zodiac]

hehe its ok

[next edge]

oh no

its lunar again

[hexed root]

actual troll?

[steel ridge]

you mean overalls?

[true rapids]

ya like Riptack for ex
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/22316027?mode=detailed&zone=32#metric=playerscore

[shadow sequoia]

I really want to learn assassination but FUK

[hexed root]

thats just raider io

[steel ridge]

yeah m+ parses are like a useless metric

[hexed root]

no?

[shadow sequoia]

Where is Seliathan

Ok Zac is live

Fk he's playin outlaw

[trim zinc]

dont look at m+ parses

varas was playing sin earlier

[dense herald]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[shadow sequoia]

Fk it I don't want to learn ass anymore

[true rapids]

ass seems way easier to play than sub or outlaw imo

[subtle tundra]

its the best spec

[true rapids]

I was just hitting the dummies as outlaw not knowing much and doing like 1.5x dmg more than sin

[subtle tundra]

yes

[copper gyro]

do we still play with exsang even at 3 min cd?

[subtle tundra]

outlaw is better

[trim zinc]

yes on kb build

[copper gyro]

thx

[rain oyster]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[cloud nacelle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[dark token]

wait dathea is a GIGA carnage + iron wire boss holy

[dire lodge]

@balmy condor if you are on an echoing reprimand combo point while shiv up, would you dump envenom without shiv then use it next envenom? or always shiv before envenom off cd?

[past belfry]

so am I really only using thistle tea for shiv windows?

[dark token]

wait carnage KB actually so fucking fun to play in raid

this is insane

[brittle burrow]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[molten widget]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[trim zinc]

use it for energy or if ur capped on charges
and at the end of the fight u can use it

[silk bane]

thats legit my fav fight. its such a goated fight. so simple yet so goood

[past belfry]

gotchya, I just feel like I'm getting energy starved quite often

[silk bane]

I tried it, was good for the ads but I did a lot less overall dps with it for Dathea though :/

[dark token]

really

its doing giga dmg for me

and helps us kill the adds which we are having trouble with

[rapid yacht]

Its not a bad idea to take Lightweight shiv over thrown precision on enrage weeks right?

[dire lodge]

hey are we scared yet

[oak sky]

No

This is pre tier set

And overall damage

And all bosses

And day 1 small sample size

[dire lodge]

its a joke but u really never wanna see rogue and arcane mage leading the pack

[novel arrow]

Is there a way to blacklist debuffs on your target? It's hard for me too see my rupture anymore now that there are so many debuffs.

Anyone know an addon or something

[unique sorrel]

Plater would be the go to

Imo at least

Which reminds me I still need to set mine up

[pulsar fog]

pretty much all addons that alter frames/name plates have that functionality

[novel arrow]

I'm using a nameplate addon called Zperl. and it doesn't 😦

[tough whale]

Use plater

thank us later

[runic hinge]

Plater is a god send

[tough whale]

Did jeweled signet get slightly readjusted? It feels a little worse in sims lately

[novel arrow]

looking into it now ty for advice

[fallen charm]

you know what it mean right? nerf sin rogue

unacceptable

[south pollen]

are the stats prio still crit = mastery > haste > vers?

[runic hinge]

Look for a good profile too.

[tough whale]

Personally loving Yoda's

[fallen charm]

I use threat plates

[steel sorrel]

@balmy condor Thank you and all other helpful persons here ❤️ First time sinner here, felt good in Normal raid today 🙂

[tough whale]

Well done!

[shut owl]

way better than mine. I was the statistically worst rogue on terros until this morning lol

[tough whale]

Its okay it was just a warm up

[steel sorrel]

I mean I did practice on dummy for 5-8 hours like a madman xD

[tough whale]

Could probably filter out 2/3 of those to clean it up

[summer briar]

finaly on AH

[shut owl]

I have to learn by doing moreso than by dummy when it comes to learning new things XD
things started coming around by the time we got to Kurog. pretty sure I was on track for a decent blue/purple track if we could ever pin down a kill

[fallen charm]

anyone have a good WA to track bleeds?

I had one but lost when cleaning pc

[tough whale]

Honestly plater + luxoth (spelling?) has been fantastic as an all around rogue tool. auto tracks empowered bleeds etc

but annoying to resize and move some clumps

highlights pandemic windows, the usual stuff

[fallen charm]

this one?

[tough whale]

Yea, if you move some stuff around to clean it up it can be a pain in the ass but that general bar /weakaura set is incredible

you can also just yoink parts you like out as individual elements

[cerulean nest]

whats the jump from sophic 1 to 2?

generally

dps wise

[fallen charm]

I had yoinked one in shadowlands and spent days tweaking it

I wish I had remembered to save the code

[deft vault]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[grim pawn]

does anyone know what is preferred between sharpening stones and crit weapon rune?

[late veldt]

Like ur nameplates what do u use?

[slim hamlet]

runes

and its not close

[steel sorrel]

Buzzing rune

[grim pawn]

got it, ty

[red tinsel]

Just checking, can we stack enchants? Like 2x Burning Writ?

someone here said it'd stack to double crit amount, same proc

[fleet anchor]

Yeah it doesn't matter

All the weapon enchants stack values for DF

So you can mix or stack freely

[trim zinc]

yay

[thorn fjord]

Grats

[dim yacht]

from earlier when talking about this: https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-on-skill-bonuses-and-reagent-quality-when-recrafting-in-crafting-orders-330518

so everybody make sure to craft your shit with r3 mats, even if you dont need them to get max rank at the time

[fleet anchor]

lol yeah this is such nonsense from a player perspective though

[cerulean nest]

for DTB, do you hold shivs ever for upcoming dm?

[dim yacht]

i agree

but it is a thing

[fleet anchor]

It's silly if you have the item "remember"

But don't have any way of seeing it in the UI

Or getting it in the crafting UI

Remembering invisible numbers is bad 😛

[native belfry]

Did they change the tier set's stats?

[outer cairn]

nice

[cerulean nest]

?

[rocky rain]

Did stances change? This isn't working anymore. CS doesn't fire in dance.

/cast [stance:1] Pick Pocket
/cast [stance:1] Cheap Shot
/cast [stance:0] Gouge

[earnest imp]

So any positive feedback from m+ runs out of assasination here

[thorn crater]

yes

[valid whale]

Every time I run it, I blast bosses, but my overall damage is really low… Most of the time I wish I was playing some or outlaw

[thorn crater]

ive run sin DTB up to 14

was pretty sick/smooth

[proud cosmos]

best m+ ass a tech is press n key with chat closed not open for a change

[thorn crater]

but i was running with DH and mage

so we covered each other

15+ is prolly gonna be IC

[earnest imp]

Yeah im interested to see how that handles ST

seems pretty shite

I havent still played nothing but outlaw

[thorn crater]

depends on wep drops as well

ive looted 4 daggers today

double shadowmoon at 385 a terros dagger and a lifepool 395 one

and had crafted one yday

[earnest imp]

Im rolling a 402 heroic dagger

but still put it on my off hand went outlaw

lmao

Maybe i need to give it a go

[flint tusk]

Well first raid down. and gotta say Sin was awesome!

[earnest imp]

how did you like sin on council

[thorn crater]

did u clear?

[spice spire]

Felt good.
Will feel better with more gear. Slamming mobs

[thorn crater]

YES

i didnt expect it

[flint tusk]

nope didn't clear three bosses left

[thorn crater]

and btw the PB nerf

totally warranted

holy shit

[flint tusk]

it actually felt alright on council. it's WAY more work

[next edge]

Could someone give a quick look at my grimtotem kill

[thorn crater]

taht thing slaps

[next edge]

to help out if i made some blatant mistakes

to improve

[earnest imp]

did you play CT?

Sang

[thorn crater]

yes

[spice spire]

Sure @next edge

[next edge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WwqHpkC1DbnTfK4F#fight=34&type=damage-done&source=18

Can yo usee?

[earnest imp]

and we talking about council or m+

[thorn crater]

m+ not council wtf

[spice spire]

Yes

[earnest imp]

😄

[next edge]

Im just learning Sin, first raid in 2 years

[thorn crater]

im not playing sin on council i cba

[flint tusk]

nope. kept same spec and multi dot as wanted to focus on the fight mechanics rather than why my buttons have broken again

[south pollen]

were you DTB for single target dmg and they took aoe focussed?

[thorn crater]

guild is not good enough

[next edge]

so wanted ot make sure to improve

😄

[spice spire]

Lambda Fight Review

[thorn crater]

i slapped them on aoe and st

[south pollen]

what talen you ran with if you dont mind sharing it?

so far im running with king and IC

[thorn crater]

i dont think mobs ahve enough hp to warrant that

but thats just me

i just run the DTB M+

basically just move the SBS point to MA

[keen raven]

what do u run in place of exsang for dragon tempered

[south pollen]

the king is mostly for ST and bosses tbh

[limber lion]

One more boss then I'm done with 3 splits

[thorn crater]

normal i assume

[fleet anchor]

👀

[thorn crater]

also wtf

[next edge]

NOCCO GAMING

[limber lion]

Ya normals first, heroics tomorrow, mythic sunday

[keen raven]

Whats the dragon tempered opener

[thorn crater]

do we have any news on wrappings?

[south pollen]

something like that?

[thorn crater]

lo no

its literally in faq

[keen raven]

not for dragon tempered

[south pollen]

forgot about FAQ channel lol

[keen raven]

oh wait they just added it

nvm

[balmy condor]

Love to see it

[balmy condor]

If you’re on an animacharged cp you finish regardless of anything

[brazen zodiac]

good 2 know xd

[timid dagger]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

[steel sorrel]

yeah me too! Been practicing alot and its fun to see it work in reality 🙂 Now I just need to see how I can improve 🤓

[cerulean nest]

@balmy condor ❤️

[kindred oriole]

!whispyr

[prisma monolith]

Whispyr's Simulation Spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/292m89ev

[balmy condor]

Sure

You can hold a shiv charge for dm

[honest iris]

Should I use both charges of Shiv in dm opener?

[thorny aurora]

Hey, I have a question about the envenom/shiv/kingbsane order
From what I get from the FAQ, if doing the written opener you'd envenom kingsbane shiv so the whole kingsbane fits in deathmark
And on the 2nd kingsbane "cycle" you'd envenom shiv kingsbane instead, correct?

[charred timber]

if i Re-caft the Neck Piece, do i need to re-open 3 sockets?

or do the sockets stay

[winter gale]

My guild's raiding starts tommorow, do I need to craft any item now or do I need to wait?

I am really lost on that subject tbh

[balmy condor]

Yes

[balmy condor]

Yeah, you’d already have envenom up you could just shiv kb

[upper swift]

!consumable

[thorny aurora]

Okay, thanks!

[river acorn]

which embelishment should I put on dagger if multispeccing sin/outlaw

[willow sundial]

Is there a macro for DTB poisons

[earnest imp]

hmm just tested the IC+KB on +8 ruby for funzies

holy shit this is suprisingly impressive