#assassination

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strange python
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guys

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why i cant use a or d on pvp or m+ sections?

balmy condor
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dragonflying bug

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remount

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and it clears

flint ridge
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Any wa that can track the two garrote's on deaths mark?

lavish wing
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good bye BB, you will be missed 😰

teal iris
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fuck me we need so many keybinds for m+

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anyone wanna post their action bars HmmYes

lavish wing
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I could but my mouse has 19 extra buttons so...

teal iris
peak bobcat
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What crafted piece do i work order

outer cairn
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love how the game is throwing 359/363 swords and maces at me, but no daggers

peak bobcat
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Sparks giving me fomo

outer cairn
cerulean nest
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we arent taking SBS and IC at the same time right? probably just gonna macro both on one button

outer cairn
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i think you can so SS or SBS

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depends on dungeon/playstyle

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but i did have KB/IC macro'd on one button during prepatch, but since we have both

echo heath
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i want to take a moment to say, this is the best assassination has felt in dungeons in a LONG time

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i can't remember anything more satisfying than spreading the bleeds around on mobs like we can right now

exotic parcel
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what is the strongest spec for M+ currently?

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been doing outlaw and it feels good

steel sorrel
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I think sub and outlaw is considered to be best in M+

balmy condor
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sub does damage though

limber lion
lavish wing
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is sin ahead on st comparing to outlaw?

deft vault
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shouldnt this work ?
#showtooltip
/cast [known:Serrated Bone Spike]Serrated Bone Spike;[known:Sepsis]Sepsis;[known:Indiscriminate Carnage]Indiscriminate Carnage

sturdy rock
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Seeing as stat prio is crit mastery now, is there a certain amount of haste I need to function?

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Or it's just, dump as much into crit mastery as possible?

balmy condor
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you would need to sim yourself

royal lantern
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you never needed haste to function

balmy condor
royal lantern
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haste literally only made your dots slightly faster and autoattack faster

thorn fjord
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I'm dumb.. can we use swords in offhand?

oak sky
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no

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mut requires double daggers

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sub can use sword offhand but its bad

thorn fjord
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kk thats what i thought

slim hamlet
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Scam

rain oyster
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
upper swift
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is kingsbane a lethal poison?

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in regard to deathmark

dark token
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no

upper swift
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ok thanks. the faq says to use kingsbane during deathmark and jw why

dark token
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double weapon poisons = double poison procs for kingsbane ramp

civic niche
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
strange python
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Playing outlaw till raid 😦

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371 ilvl tho

nimble tartan
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i will learn the new df rotation on day 1 of raid

unreal parcel
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dumb question, but whats a good first slot to craft a life binder piece in

pseudo geyser
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Is Assa going to be the way to go for raid and m+?

brave mason
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grappling hook subterefuge bug still active?

royal lantern
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no yathzee pirate zone here

lofty bluff
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hey so with the tempered dragon blades opener, do we still use the exsanguinate opener minus bone spike?

eternal timber
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Are ya’ll leveling to 70 as Assassination or are you switching to Sub or Outlaw? I can’t figure out if there’s a big difference in speed.

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I like Assassination in Dungeons, but should I be switching to Outlaw for open world stuff?

gusty mirage
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assassination is a bit slower than outlaw and sub for world stuff

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but if you're enjoying it, stick with it

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I did 60-70 all as assa

eternal timber
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Alright - thanks pal 😎

strange python
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Do we know which slot is bis for crafted leather? I know necklace, but for the other slot?

trim dirge
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dtb felt pretty good for leveling tbh

rigid tartan
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I’m actually scared of that kingsbane build in raid

dark token
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then play dtb

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its super chill and not far behind

rigid tartan
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How is kingsbane with every possible active ability and ambush procs gonna work with higher secondaries lol

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Or do I overestimate APM here?

limber lion
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I'm gonna be honest

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I have no clue what you're saying

rigid tartan
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Yeah past bedtime for me sorry. May voice my thoughts after I played it

alpine latch
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Is it worth using CT on bosses in m0s?

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OR just use the CP for envenom?

jolly rock
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If I am swapping from outlaw to assassination, will I need to farm a set of daggers? Or can I use my outlaw weapons for assassination?

alpine latch
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You can buy 343 daggers on the AH for like 2-5k each, depending on your server

jolly rock
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can outlaw use two daggers?

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I want to play sin raid and outlaw m+, so it would be nice if I didn't have to farm 2 sets of weapons and weapon swap each time

alpine latch
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No, Outlaw requires a sword/fw/mace in the main hand

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You can use a dagger in your OH, but you cannot use one in your MH

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Typically speaking, once you get your main Outlaw weapon

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Swap to Sin loot spec

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Then you'll only get daggers

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Outlaw cannot loot daggers and Sin/Sub cannot loot swords/maces/fw

jolly rock
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got it, tyty

alpine latch
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Many times, a dagger is preferred in the OH for Outlaw. Not always, but no matter what it's usually stupidly close

serene fossil
median beacon
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in m+ spec?

serene fossil
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Ye

median beacon
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sec

serene fossil
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I mean the ST is stupidly close to my outlaws dslice so im wondering how much you can get in dslice

serene fossil
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Oh, alright.

pure skiff
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So kingsbane where do we put that on the opener? Like after what

pure skiff
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You’re amazing ty one more question say we take the point off exsan what would be the better option I like it personally but just to play around I am curious

topaz breach
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The BiS list for sin lists an int dagger as the offhand is that correct?

slim hamlet
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It's Whispyr's way of calling us idiots

lost goblet
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So what're the odds on Assa getting nerfed before raid release with the dmg being done atn?

slim hamlet
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I just hope it's exsang

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yep

pure skiff
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Doubt we will get nerfed dhs are broken and other classes still pump more

slim hamlet
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I reckon we will

lost goblet
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Who'd you say is top dog atm, next to DH?

slim hamlet
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Well not before raid release

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We gotta sandbag

outer arrow
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can we like

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pretend exang is super fun and widely liked by the community, and that we abuse it in any way

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so blizz deletes it

gusty mirage
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only if we stop pretending that blizzard uses community discord sims to make balancing decisions

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deal?

foggy socket
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
strange python
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at how many targets should i stop using rupture?

serene fossil
oak sky
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the next best talent point is ttb

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but it isn't very close

woeful wigeon
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what weapen enchants are bis ?

flint ridge
balmy condor
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or if it's at the end of deathmark, the duplicated garrote just drops

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and you're left with the regular one

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so regardless, you're staring at the same timer

flint ridge
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I just noticed on the plates i cast vanish garrote and then exsang then cast death mark, the first garrote run out and i am able to cast another. Im probably dumb though and im seeing it wrong.

balmy condor
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yeah the deathmark duplicates the exsang'd garrote

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so they're the same duration

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shouldn't need to track anything on deathmark

flint ridge
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You're right, but I do have to re-garrote mid dm right?

balmy condor
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yeah once the exsang'd dots drop

flint ridge
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Kk. Thanks lots more power!

woeful wigeon
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whispyr what weapens anchats we focusing not on fuu sheet

grizzled jay
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go to the sim profile

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it has all gems and enchants

proper solstice
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hai guys, what is the current best PvE dps spec? Single target one?

balmy condor
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for single target it's assa

fickle herald
woeful wigeon
idle radish
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any alchemists here?

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and planning on using it to benefit pve?

dark token
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Yes

balmy condor
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yep

lofty bluff
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
idle radish
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are yall going into decayology?

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guides seem to say thats the best/only way of actual power

grizzled jay
# balmy condor yep

so how the hell do we gain Knowledge outside of New Crafts and rng world drops?

dark token
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No I'm going phial mastery for longer buff

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Decayology is next

grizzled jay
dark token
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If you get your renown up you unlock more

grizzled jay
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where generally are you getting them from? idk even know what drops them specifically.

dark token
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Like I have a ton of chests everywhere for the expedition renown and got 5 or so knowledge in a couple of mins

grizzled jay
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oh the supply packs

dark token
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No I'm talking like

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Interesting piles of dirt

grizzled jay
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oh

dark token
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That were unlocked from expedition renown

grizzled jay
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hm. may have to look into that. didn't pay TOO close attention to what loot i was getting from those.

dark token
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Also a bunch of prof quests give knowledge

grizzled jay
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ye just got those in valdrakken

balmy condor
dark token
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Knowledge is supposed to take ages fyi, mostly raised through prof weeklies

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It's a main feature of the expac, meant to last a year

balmy condor
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or this

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whichever way is easier

fossil pagoda
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
granite mist
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Is the Cobalt rep ring working for yall? It is doing zero damage for me... yet a DH friend did 5% overall damage with it.

lofty bluff
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int dagger showing up as pre-raid bis on wowhead

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or is tooltip bugged on wowhead

balmy condor
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nah

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it's just an int dagger

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should be fixed soon

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I fucking hate that gear page

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bis lists are the dumbest shit on this planet

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and yet every patch I have to do one

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and pretend like I care

lofty bluff
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lolol

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short answer is grab highest ilvl fuck everything else

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yes?

balmy condor
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yeah

lofty bluff
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except for rings and neck

balmy condor
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if it's crit/mast, huge

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if it's vers/haste, probably not great unless it's big ilvl

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if you can't tell

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then you sim

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well, you should always sim

spark cloud
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for m+ i feel in order to get all my shit rolling fast enough, i need mfd instead of deeper strat. am i just buggin and cucking myself out of dmg?

balmy condor
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but ya know, snap judgement

spark cloud
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fml

balmy condor
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the "get all my shit rolling" is just IC

spark cloud
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IC?

balmy condor
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press IC, gar rup CT

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shit is rolling

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carnage

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yeh

spark cloud
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ahh

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new abbreviations gang lol

spice spire
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IC feel real good

balmy condor
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faq has a visual guide

spice spire
balmy condor
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for abbreviations

spark cloud
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okay thanks

balmy condor
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np

lofty bluff
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oh if you are answering questions, bonespike is in the opener image, but there isnt a "if you are specced for it" on bonespike, but there is for kingsbane

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we dont take bonespike for tempered build right?

balmy condor
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you do

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well

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you can

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it's basically whatever

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I guess I could have it added to sbs as well

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the "if talented" for kingsbane was because people will inevitably ask "okay but no kingsbane????"

lofty bluff
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hahaha

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guess people will do it for sbs too

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how do i SBS irl?

balmy condor
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yeh I just assumed people would just be like "I don't have it, so I skip that part"

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but I guess I should've added it

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you know what they say about assume

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makes an ass out of u and me

lofty bluff
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ayyyy

oblique wasp
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yo bois! my wow weekend begins

lofty bluff
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Have fun Drag :D:D

grand trail
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My already over two days in, nothing to do more

lofty bluff
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Tempered vs kingsbane

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whats the consensus?

balmy condor
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the consensus is "raid isn't out"

jaunty lotus
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Tuning round will probably also happen

lofty bluff
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practice both, be ready for either to be better

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got it

balmy condor
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if anything related to them happens tuning wise, I would think kingsbane would get a little bit of a boost over dragon tempered

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but honestly if they just obliterate exsanguinate and then leave everything else

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we're chilling

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that's the easiest nerf

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I see "easiest" as in "just nerf it and we're chilling"

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and not "easiest" as in "easy to nerf"

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cause uh

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it's exsang

jaunty lotus
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Knowing how blizzard tends to overreact when a spec appears strong pre raid, I would say if anything happens to them they'll both be nerfed

balmy condor
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dunno bout that

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sin is on-target for aoe/dungeons, and ahead in single target

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wouldn't make sense for them to knock aoe or dungeon talents down

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also the real outlier is exsanguinate

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not KB or DTB

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KB is like 8-9% atm

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which is frankly probably a bit low for a capstone

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I think kingsbane can easily take a 10% buff, exsang gets evaporated, and maybe like a 3% aura nerf

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and we're mad chilling

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that's my tuning hope at least

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we'll see what happens

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but I think exsang nerf is just a slam dunk

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people don't like it, it's crazy strong

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nuke it

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hurts every build equally in single target

jaunty lotus
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I remember back in BFA sub was looking good pre raid, they just nerfed it, didn't try to do it well.
And then sub broke a boss so they nerfed it even further into oblivion

strange python
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Whispyr - is JC neck or LW belt not better than the items in the Sims?

grizzled jay
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i believe alch eng is better overall dps gain

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(don't quote me tho)

jaunty lotus
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Eng is a dps gain?

balmy condor
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and idk bout the belt

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but maybe

strange python
# trim zinc lol

?? JC neck is mythic raid level with two sockets why is this lol

balmy condor
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3 sockets

strange python
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Fuck u right

balmy condor
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yeh

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it's real good

trim zinc
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like its depends cuz every character is diferent and like isnt better to just sim it and see whats better for u?

balmy condor
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it does not depend on every character

trim zinc
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just asking cuz im not the best tho ;-;

strange python
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The sims are about bis...

gusty mirage
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hey whispyr can you tell me what the best snack to eat is while trying the advanced dragonflying races?

gusty mirage
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omw

lofty bluff
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wait is whispyr a dude?

balmy condor
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yeah sorry to burst your bubble

lofty bluff
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im actually mad

strange python
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Seems p reasonable to ask since it wasn't in the Sims and the Sims are the bis build. Obv it's early, but confirming I wasn't missing something

lofty bluff
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headcanon was "assassin mummy"

balmy condor
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its a tough to swallow for a lot of guys

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both the gender and my cum

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but ya know

ancient crag
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Bandit are you not actually a bandit? Wtf?

balmy condor
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what can you do

lofty bluff
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cute assassin mummy teaches her proteges how to murder effectively

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I am a bandit irl

strange python
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I have to imagine a piece of LW gear that you can put your target stats on while reducing potion curses will outperform a raid item too. Just tbd which slot

balmy condor
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but sadly irl im a 3d dude

trim zinc
balmy condor
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we all have our struggles

strange python
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Hey man it's 2023 in 4 weeks. If you wanna identify as a 2d anime girl we support you

coral sierra
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how much of a difference is it if i stick to engineering/alc vs if i pick up JC or LW.

balmy condor
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0

ancient crag
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I need to see some keybinds. Examples. I'm at a loss for how to set myself up for ass rogue.

strange python
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Also realized I should've been asking fuu because those were his Sims I was looking at

grand trail
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According the fuu Sims, for dungeons not playing KB + IC ( but DTB insted) is just less than 1% DPS looss. Anyone else play DTB for ease of use?

coral sierra
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IC is fun af

lofty bluff
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so for my pre-raid crafted I want the JC neck?

strange python
strange python
lofty bluff
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neat

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any other crafted super worth targeting?

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we get 1 per week right?

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from the spark weekly limitation?

jaunty lotus
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Isn't it better to just craft a weapon?

strange python
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Afaik you can only "embellish" two items. Tho idk what the embellishments are

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I don't think the crafted weapons outperform the raid weapons but I could be wrong

balmy condor
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embellished is any crafted stuff

jaunty lotus
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It's 1 from campaign and then one every 2 weeks until week 9 iirc

strange python
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I just don't know what the embellishments do, how they get added, etc.

balmy condor
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neck is basically locked in for sure

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and then probably off-hand

strange python
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But the crafting system is super overcomplicated and I hate it

gusty mirage
jaunty lotus
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You guys seem to live on a parallel world where raid daggers actually drop

gusty mirage
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it unlocks the ability to add it while crafting

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& they're like missives

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just slap it in the slot and bam

balmy condor
strange python
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So you need a guildy to have gone the right subspec...

gusty mirage
strange python
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Because I'm p sure guild crafting orders allow you to guarantee stats/ilvl

jaunty lotus
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It took me 4 weeks to drop my first dagger on S3 SL

balmy condor
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sounds like you didn't farm enough m+

grand trail
strange python
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So I need a guild blacksmith to have dagger subspec with crit/mastery?

strange python
balmy condor
strange python
jaunty lotus
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It's dagger/fist weapons

strange python
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Given how atrociously slow knowledge gain seems to be...that might be tough

grand trail
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I understand that true sin lovers prefe to run King's bane but If passive talent choice Sims the same, it should be better for removing user error during encounter

balmy condor
strange python
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Dtb isn't actually easier to play than KB because it fucks with shiv

balmy condor
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it's not like kingsbane is impossible to play

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you hit it every minute with 2 shivs

gusty mirage
strange python
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Adding KB to my bars is easier than thinking about shiv timing

strange python
grizzled jay
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so crafter mains actually have a legit path of progression this expansion, kinda cool

gusty mirage
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you can buy knowledge items from a vendor in valducken

strange python
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Man I read the professions guides like 70 times and I don't understand any of it

oak sky
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when do you think about shiv with dtb

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isnt it just send on cd

balmy condor
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well

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kinda

strange python
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Err exsang sry

oak sky
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when do you think about exsang

balmy condor
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you hold for deathmark

oak sky
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isnt it just send on cd

strange python
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With KB

royal lantern
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and good morning

strange python
oak sky
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is mettle some profession thing

strange python
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Yes

gusty mirage
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I think you use it to recraft shit

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also

grand trail
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Yeah I'm kinda shitter, but I did not play for 4 years and did play outlaw before. So I'm trying to be competitive as we have too many rogues for raid.

oak sky
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i literally have never seen this word in relation to wow until today

gusty mirage
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everyone gets one for free

oak sky
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ive never seen that

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why have i not seen that

gusty mirage
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I'm clowning you for asking a question like that after this

strange python
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What embellishments can you add to a dagger? Like, any reason blacksmith dagger would outperform raid dagger?

gusty mirage
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have you crafted anything?

oak sky
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lol

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no

gusty mirage
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well there ya go

oak sky
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isnt there no reason to cant i work order everything

gusty mirage
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no

oak sky
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why

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i dont want to engage with this content

gusty mirage
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wait

strange python
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Bsmith dagger ilvl cap is 421 right? So unless it gets a socket or unique effect it can't be worth it compared to the raid dagger

oak sky
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blizzard is making me engage with this content

gusty mirage
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no they're not

balmy condor
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agreon must be shitposting

gusty mirage
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no there is no reason you can't workorder everything

balmy condor
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surely

gusty mirage
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idk man

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something wrong with the water down there

oak sky
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oh i triple negatived

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didnt i

gusty mirage
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bro idk what is going on

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I've slept 6 hours in 2 days

oak sky
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yeah me too

strange python
oak sky
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me and oxi having

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the most well rested conversation

bitter badger
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anyone knows if there's any rare that drops purple daggers?

strange python
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Rare loot disabled

gusty mirage
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they brought it back like an hour and a half ago or some shit

strange python
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O

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Wait Oxi

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Can blacksmith dagger go above 421?

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Your name is orange now, you're supposed to know the answers to all things

royal lantern
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oxi knows nothing lmao

strange python
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He knew the answers to two questions like 5 minutes ago 😦

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Have we exhausted his orange usefulness?

gusty mirage
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pretty sure crafted gear tops out at 418

gusty mirage
strange python
balmy condor
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cause haste/vers fucking sucks

jaunty lotus
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Looks like crafted gear tops out at 418

royal lantern
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cus exsang exist

gusty mirage
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if I search your name

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and snd

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and there's something less than a month away besides that message

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I'm muting you for 24hrs

strange python
royal lantern
strange python
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What's wrong with snd

strange python
balmy condor
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wowhead can add sockets to everything

strange python
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Shows 2 socket diurna wep, 1 socket nerzhul

gusty mirage
strange python
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Bruh my whole life is a lie

olive current
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hello friends

gusty mirage
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hi angelis

olive current
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i have come in search of a build that does not take exsanguinate, knowing full well its not the best.

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trying to reduce some button bloat if i can since my hands dont work to well

balmy condor
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un-talent exsang, put anywhere else

royal lantern
gusty mirage
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!mute @royal lantern 24hr I wasn't lying, enjoy your break

strange python
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I don't wanna get nerfed 😦

balmy condor
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1 word acronym

strange python
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Just let us be warlocks

balmy condor
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letter?

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1 letter acronym

gusty mirage
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apparently 24hr worked too tho

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!unmute @royal lantern

balmy condor
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yeh it just added the R to the reason

gusty mirage
royal lantern
strange python
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Can I ping tryan while he's muted and can't respond

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Fk

balmy condor
gusty mirage
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won't it anyway?

balmy condor
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like that one time I tried to mute a dude

olive current
strange python
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It's time for Oxi to go back to green name. Orange trial failed.

royal lantern
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well, g2g to work anyway

balmy condor
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you can top gear talents

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but exsang doesn't change the build majorly

strange python
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Plz don't let them nerf us Mr whispyr

oak sky
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Chatting

strange python
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I sleep now

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Gn

balmy condor
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we're 10% ahead of every other spec

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don't nerf

oak sky
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if the mods say we dont need nerfs we wont get nerfed

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Chatting

strange python
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😦

gusty mirage
strange python
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Warlock S3 and 4

balmy condor
oak sky
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blizzard only cares about st tuning

strange python
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Raids too.

oak sky
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nobody was an insane outlier in raid for st

strange python
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Warlock just unethical and hide apl/Sims

gusty mirage
oak sky
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yeah man

empty hinge
oak sky
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yet somehow blizzard can also not see that warlock player counts and damage is higher

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because they cant see sims

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they are blind

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to what classes are good

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true

olive current
#

top gear talents? whats that mean?

balmy condor
#

top gear in raidbots

#

supports talents

strange python
#

15 years straight of being the best class. Let us have one tier.

oak sky
#

I actively advocate for rogue nerfs

#

I am the problem

#

I exist

balmy condor
#

Chatting theorycrafters want rogue to be bad Chatting

#

all the theorycrafters from every class in the game is actually a warlock

#

that's why their sims are dogshit

oak sky
#

rogue presses impending catastrophe

#

in aoe

balmy condor
#

because they're too busy making every other class look decent

#

this is my truth

#

you may not agree

#

but I live my truth

olive current
# balmy condor top gear in raidbots

ill check out raidbots. I got two talents left before i hit 70. does blindside bring up stealthbar or do i need to put it on my regular action bar?

balmy condor
#

you need ambush in your main action bar

balmy condor
#

!simguide

prisma monolithBOT
#

Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights

For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.

olive current
balmy condor
#

uh

#

just deathmark+trinket+racial I guess

main solar
#

Not sure if intended or a bug, but when you envenom on an anima charged combo point, cut to the chase doesn't seem to treat it as a 7 point envenom and only extend by how many cp you actually spent

olive current
dark token
#

I sim more for single target than I do for dslice

#

Sin is weird man

pulsar fog
#

Sins major CDs are fully ST so you basically use them for prior targets in M+

dark token
#

Yes I know but you think adding targets would add DPS but nah

steel sorrel
#

Morning fellas, I was wondering if there is a recommended craft as a first with the Spark? Is dagger always prio?

dark token
#

Im planning to see what drops and craft to fill the spot

#

not crafting anything till week 2-3 since it will be very expensive week 1 until crafters level more, and week 1 is mostly m+/tier set farming in heroic/normal

#

But yes dagger is prio

balmy condor
hoary remnant
grand trail
#

I'm already 367 after first run

hoary remnant
#

Same 366

grand trail
#

Got all weapons for outlaw and sin

hoary remnant
#

You step into the raid with 370+

hoary remnant
steel ridge
#

Did all 8 and zip weapon

#

😦

grand trail
#

I switched for last boss for outlaw and got mace aswell 😄 got 3 weapons from last two m0

#

So basically ready to play w/e I want

#

But raidbot Sims my assa at 40k DPS and outlaw at 25k propably not working

burnt latch
#

All m0 run with a full leather stack, looted 3 items

balmy condor
#

Group loot ain’t it

burnt latch
#

Its personal loot in keys

hoary remnant
burnt latch
#

Or dungeons rather

balmy condor
#

Weirdge

grand trail
#

I had to give out 3 rings and one bracer for roll

hoary remnant
#

I know why otherwise u could just do m0 splits

#

Which is crazy

balmy condor
#

As crazy as m+ Splits?

burnt latch
#

Oh no how horrible would that be deadge

hoary remnant
balmy condor
#

I’m sure all 15 people that would affect are really bummed by that

burnt latch
hoary remnant
royal lantern
#

🙂

#

im not even max lvl on my rogue

burnt latch
#

What wr is that

#

Sounds like madness

balmy condor
#

Sounds like 1500

royal lantern
hoary remnant
burnt latch
#

Oh god

balmy condor
#

My guild is getting there

#

I give it 2 more tiers

royal lantern
#

mid lvl guilds are the most tryhard braindead shit possible

hoary remnant
#

Good guild just say get gear as f**** that's it

royal lantern
#

thats why i left

burnt latch
#

Heard a lot of guilds even hard enforcing professions atm

royal lantern
#

and probs have casual raiding in df peeposhrug

hoary remnant
#

If there is a competitive environment for raids spots people will just do as much as they can

oak sky
hoary remnant
hoary remnant
burnt latch
oak sky
#

Im doing them later in the week

burnt latch
#

But nothing enforced

oak sky
#

No rush

#

M0s are like expected i guess

burnt latch
#

2 characters are like expected but not enforced

oak sky
#

Because obviously you cant walk in with 304 gear

balmy condor
#

Watch me

oak sky
balmy condor
#

I have a group running tomorrow

#

I haven’t done a heroic dungeon

oak sky
#

Yeah i think we're doing a leather stack some time

#

Idk ehen

#

When

balmy condor
#

We’re not even leather stacking

#

We’re just running

oak sky
#

Tomorrow or ovrr the weekend

royal lantern
#

btw whisp, would it be better if you put a "use your crafted gear slots on this stuff" in the FaQ/pins?

#

cus that question will come up alot

hoary remnant
oak sky
#

Our guilds had some plate stacks and theres people coordinating for mail cloth and leather

#

But yeah

balmy condor
balmy condor
#

Cause I don’t know

burnt latch
#

Value or not im omw to school, 50 min commute, for a 5 minute group talk and 2,50€ lunch, and then instantly back home another 50 mins

royal lantern
#

same

royal lantern
#

do your sim magic

balmy condor
#

Tell blizzard to stop fucking with the numbers

royal lantern
#

today im gonna reach 70 prayge

oak sky
#

Make the sim not press exsang

#

Then we wont get nerfed

#

Because

#

Only sims matter

#

For tuning

gilded swallow
#

Been gaming hard, it's insane how nicely assassin play this expac, I love it

balmy condor
#

I hope they just nuke exsang and then nothing else

burnt latch
#

”Craft the crafted piece on whatever is your biggest upgrade on raidbots whenever you’re going to be crafting the item since none of them are end game items anyways”

balmy condor
#

-8% dps

royal lantern
#

i really dont like assa rn man kekw

balmy condor
#

We’re balanced

balmy condor
burnt latch
#

Oh god

#

Is there some cringe -30 from max ilvl neck simming crazy

balmy condor
#

You think a triple socket neck with special effect to make gems better

#

And main stat gem

#

Isn’t going to be good?

burnt latch
#

Triple sockets u can have on all necks tbf

balmy condor
#

Yeah sure but increased gem effect is like

#

Real heavy breathing

burnt latch
#

God

balmy condor
#

Cause the unique equip gems are like 70 agi or some shit

burnt latch
#

Well let me rephrase

balmy condor
#
  • other stat
burnt latch
#

”Craft the crafted piece on whatever is your biggest upgrade on raidbots whenever you’re going to be crafting the item since none of them are end game items anyways (except for the neck, considering crafting the neck)”

balmy condor
#

Perfect

burnt latch
royal lantern
#

"dont use crafted gear, just drop loot lmao"

steel sorrel
#

Thanks for all the answers guys, its seems like I need to get myself a neck or mabye a neck?

gilded swallow
#

Look at all these neckless people, golem gang taking over

#

Can't be a neckbeard if you have no neck though wesmart

steel sorrel
#

TRUE! hahahaha, just gotta figure this crafting order shit out xD

balmy condor
#

You either need it or you don’t

royal lantern
#

allready made it to 68yesterday and are in the last zone

balmy condor
#

Last zone is 0xp

royal lantern
#

man

#

chill

#

work allready fucks me hard enough

balmy condor
#

Hey it’s fine

#

I leveled 69-70 Just crafting

royal lantern
#

expac comes Out???

yeha fuck you, overtime for the rest of the week

balmy condor
#

Was weird

royal lantern
kind forge
#

should have applied for vacation this week

royal lantern
#

cant

#

🙂

kind forge
#

~45-50h and a new expac in a week is sad

steel ridge
#

i think i will pin this on my monitor

ebon notch
#

if assa doesnt get nerfed and im in warrior prison im gonna scream

balmy condor
#

It’ll get nerfed dw

fallen arch
#

Start screaming

drifting cloud
#

wheres nocco prot warr fotm?

ebon notch
#

i am dps nocco warrior

#

@balmy condor bruh did you see i got a nocco chat cover

azure gulch
balmy condor
ebon notch
#

probably good for your health

ebon notch
azure gulch
#

What world rank is your guild that you're rerolling

#

Or are you an officer or something

ebon notch
#

we're aiming for top 75 this tier

azure gulch
#

Okay that's fair

drifting cloud
#

hope its not the same people as on jailer Cheesin

balmy condor
#

Daps is a simp

ebon notch
#

i can play multiple classes/specs so filling the gaps in the roster is more important than what i personally enjoy

ebon notch
#

good prog pls Prayge

royal lantern
#

and not exsang

balmy condor
fallen arch
#

what

balmy condor
#

It’s a multilayered joke

#

Dw bout it

balmy condor
ebon notch
#

thats a very cute gif

grand trail
#

I'm still thinking about that kings bane 😂 just dont want to play it... Basically playing IC for aoe, I can take poison bomb instead of KB? Sim about 0.5% same

onyx wind
#

389 ring any good?

balmy condor
#

yeh it's better than a 388 ring

weak horizon
#

I'm feeling very every starved in heroic dungeons when IC is on cd. I just can't get my ruptures up on many targets. Anyone else having similar issues? Maybe my crit is too low so I have to fok too much? Idk

balmy condor
#

you have 3 garrotes out and a couple ruptures and still are very starved?

warm parcel
#

Put on poisons

weak horizon
#

I feel starved after the 3 garrotes and a CT

#

I struggle to build for the ruptures

balmy condor
#

yeah cause your energy needs to regen

steel ridge
#

exsang is the worst ability in the game holy shit

balmy condor
#

okay

#

and then you build for the ruptures

#

and then what

weak horizon
#

Fair, I guess I'm just unreasonably expecting infinite energy like the IC pulls

#

In a dungeon where you know the boss will die before 2nd DM it's better to desync vanish and vanish after exsang garotte falls, right?

hollow nebula
#

hey guys

#

can't find the information but

next arch
#

Bro energy starved even with thistle tea?

balmy condor
hollow nebula
#

whats the best between crit and mastery for pvp ?

next arch
#

Thought I'd loathe thistle but I'm a believer

#

Oh true

hollow nebula
#

i see people having both

balmy condor
hollow nebula
#

yeah vers was not in the equation tho

#

ty

#

❤️

balmy condor
#

okay

#

then answer is crit sucks don't do crit

hollow nebula
#

yeah crit sucks xd

#

i love assa rn, pretty bursty

balmy condor
#

50% crit penalty in pvp is just

#

kinda brutal

#

the burst is crazy though

bronze dust
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
safe marsh
#

He guys, Is it only my feeling, or do get a huge Energie reg nervt from SL to now?
I would line to see Dashing Scoundrel gave us more then just 1 Energie... feels like i lag of fun to me tbh..

balmy condor
#

it's faster

next arch
#

ok really weird question

#

but is anyone able to mog their main hand dagger into either, vengeance, The dreamer or Tiriosh?

#

the daggers from the dragonsoul lego questline

outer lodge
#

only 2 weapon world quest rewards - 1h mace and 1h sword???? AngToxic

next arch
burnt latch
slim hamlet
#

You can also get 364 gear from the weekly rep quest

dire lodge
#

BMQAOB/7AZ//CwQOf4fPMswHVjIRCSS0SAAAAAAAkAQSCAAAAAAgEkCtkkIJJRIJRCJJJJJA

sharp falcon
subtle tundra
#

hi make sd viable

burnt latch
#

Remove exsang

dire lodge
#

thistle super nice pve

#

especially on assass

burnt latch
#

I just hate farming the herbs for it

dire lodge
#

mood

slim hamlet
#

simply no

subtle tundra
#

Also make it so i finally drop the last key framing i need omg

sharp falcon
#

prog, varas... pls... LETS KEEP IT ON TOPIC IM HERE TO TALK ABOUT RAMPART, PLS ASK ABOUT RAMPART

burnt latch
#

RAMPART THIS PantsGrab

subtle tundra
#

my dude youre using language beyond my comprehension

slim hamlet
burnt latch
#

unbelievable got no u’d by the dev im down bad

subtle tundra
#

HUH you edited so my little brain can understand

slim hamlet
#

Still can't comprehend it

sharp falcon
#

reference to very old reddit meme because i am very old

slim hamlet
#

Boomer

sharp falcon
#

sad_but_true.jpg

burnt latch
#

Back in my day we used to use the announcement page of the local news paper as a shit posting forum… u dont know old

sharp falcon
#

hah

worthy plaza
#

@sharp falcon dont nerf exsang or youre killing a damage profile on demand almost no spec in the game has

#

dont let the discord frogs get to you bro you truly a real one

subtle tundra
#

man i need to think of new bad takes

dire lodge
#

how much pve damage am i losing by not using shiv before envenom off cd

subtle tundra
#

like 3

dire lodge
#

i never played assass before df only sub i am not use to pressing this funny button

sharp falcon
#

some

#

dont worry about 'before envenom' or w/e, just send it

dire lodge
#

also can someone explain if this is right. exsang before deathmark dps gain for healthier targets, exsang after deathmark for burst?

#

right?

mystic gate
#

yo a question, we dont have bonespike on our ic kingsbane build ?

sharp falcon
#

no, the only extra (very-short-term) dps you gain by pushing exsang after dm is the dm dmg itself, but reducing its duration is a huge overall dmg loss... tldr, never exsang during dm

dire lodge
#

if the add or player is going to die in an 8 second death mark its more dmg

#

ye?

sharp falcon
#

yes

dire lodge
#

i guess more relevant in pvp again mb

vast forum
#

Very niche

dire lodge
#

but ye ive been using exang before dm and its been a lot better in dungeons

subtle tundra
#

ofc

sharp falcon
#

but by a relatively small amount, enough that you might have been better off holding DM for a target that will live closer to the full duration (assuming you encounter that circumstance within the next 30-40sec)

subtle tundra
#

its the biggest dps loss to exsang in dm

slim hamlet
#

So might aswell get the prolonged dmg in case you can't one shot

#

Well I guess Realz legit just said that xd

sharp falcon
#

the tldr stands, never exsang during dm is a good rule. The exceptions are extremely few and if you don't VERY clearly understand what those exceptional circumstances might be, you should stick to the rule and the damage you'll lose by not knowing // taking advantage of the exception will be negligible anyways

slim hamlet
#

Or be a real man and forget to use exsang before, just for you to sit during DM and wonder if it's worth to wait or not

#

That's my gameplan

oak sky
#

how did we end up with a dev answering tc questions

#

wild

sharp falcon
#

idk

vast forum
#

He a real gamer

sharp falcon
#

im here and i felt like it =p

#

but i can stop

next edge
#

Realz is a chad

oak sky
#

nah bro keep it coming

slim hamlet
#

Coming for Whispyrs job

sharp falcon
#

hardly lol

vast forum
#

I wish your name had a little bit more teal in it

#

Or at least your soul

late veldt
#

Does ER only apply to one target or does it charge my combopoints overall? And does it disappear when the target dies?

slim hamlet
#

What

next edge
#

Your cps

vast forum
#

Target based combo points haven't been a thing for a while

slim hamlet
#

Which means no it doesn't get removed when enemy dies

next edge
#

Wod?

#

Cata even?

vast forum
#

Mop or cata i don't member

oak sky
#

wasnt there an ability that could swap your cp to another target or something like that

raven knoll
#

cata had target cp

next edge
#

Mfd

#

Ye

slim hamlet
#

I tried out rogue in classic and was like wtf is this

late veldt
#

Thnx, well figured if they did something special with just that spell

vast forum
#

I remember redirect was in wotlk but don't remember when it was changed

sharp falcon
#

yeah redirect

#

before that you just always SnD before switching targets =p

slim hamlet
#

Oof

next edge
#

Wasnt it marked for deat?

#

the one that swapped the cps

#

or im trippin

vast forum
#

No

oak sky
#

i remember people mentioning redirect before

sharp falcon
#

was it? maybe, i also remember the word and icon for redirect

oak sky
#

that was what i was thinking of

vast forum
#

No it was redirect

sharp falcon
#

like a zig-zag arrow for redirect icon

vast forum
#

Mfd was always a 5cp thing

dire lodge
#

how do u guys hit ur ER anima charged combo point consistently as ass

#

with seal fate and the combo point rng

slim hamlet
#

Just rng it

vast forum
dire lodge
#

unless im one away and i just shiv its just rng

#

ye

thin ingot
#

anyone got a lvling setup you wanna share please please?

vast forum
#

Garrote is also 1 cp

slim hamlet
#

You can't really go for a specific amount bcs of seal fate

oak sky
#

dont play around it at all

dire lodge
#

ehhh if im 1 cp away shiv feels like a gain

oak sky
#

garrote is guaranteed 1cp, but shiv can get seal fated to 2cp

slim hamlet
#

Sometimes shiv

#

yeah

dire lodge
#

true tho

#

i did notice shiv can get 2 cp

oak sky
#

just land on it

#

it always happens eventually

#

tbh i think its much harder to land on 2 for sub

sharp falcon
slim hamlet
#

I have not had a time where I didn't get atleast 3 of them in the time you have the buff

oak sky
#

3cp ambush and shadowy techniques make it hard

dire lodge
#

how to use shadowmeld for dps gain, just always use for improved garrote right unless u need to cheap shot something asap?

vast forum
#

Finish + wait 4 sec

#

You pool some energy

oak sky
#

oh right low dance uptime

#

of course its easy

slim hamlet
#

I mean 2 is fine, just simply don't hit seal fate

vast forum
#

Vigor also gives more time

#

To pool

oak sky
#

is sub playing seal fate rn

vast forum
#

Ye

dire lodge
#

vanish 2 min cd, death mark 2 min cd. should i line up second vanish or shadowmeld with exsang?

oak sky
#

yeah gotcha

slim hamlet
oak sky
#

because i was thinking you could save a few seconds with a gloomblade

vast forum
#

Sub gloomblades a lot and the extra cp are insane

oak sky
#

but nah

slim hamlet
subtle tundra
#

oh wtf

#

war supply crates are in the game

#

havent seen one since bfa

slim hamlet
#

Ye

subtle tundra
#

warmode off gaming in sl

oak sky
#

i think ct shrouded and sbs are the most important things tbh

#

for leveling

slim hamlet
#

Looted 4 and only bloody coins/tokens/whatever

#

Sadge

oak sky
#

then you just go pb/kb or dtb+some zoldyck points

slim hamlet
#

Ye

subtle tundra
#

no dtb

#

it removes your poisons all the time

#

cba

oak sky
#

i played kb

slim hamlet
#

Imp garrote, MfD envenom with pb also just oneshots anything

oak sky
#

because i felt like it

dire lodge
#

war supply crate super good for recipes

#

i have been a war mode terrorist

vast forum
#

War mode was completely useless in sl

dire lodge
#

ive been running around as sub in open world

#

using the 300k opener on random evokers and monks and dhs in particular

#

and druids too

slim hamlet
#

Ah yes the ER cold blood?

dire lodge
#

all of those classes deserve a 100k echoing reprimand

subtle tundra
#

world pvp starege

slim hamlet
#

Yep we back to start of SL

subtle tundra
#

havent touched a single player while i leveled with wmon

dire lodge
slim hamlet
#

I saw it

#

Is nasty

dire lodge
#

i just love

#

one shotting DHs

slim hamlet
#

Or hear me out

#

Play sin

#

Put up everything with exsang and dm

#

and vanish and just watch them struggle

dire lodge
#

sub is infinitely more tilting to die too imo

slim hamlet
#

Yep

subtle tundra
#

go to sleep

dire lodge
#

but yes that is a good combo

slim hamlet
#

No counterplay unless healer

dire lodge
#

i watched a sub rogue in arena earlier 2v1 against paladin monk, blinded the paladin gouged the monk and 1 shot the full hp monk is probably .75 seconds and then vanished

#

truly a beautiful sight

slim hamlet
#

Skill issue on the pala monk side tbh

#

Just simply don't die

dire lodge
#

is dragon tempered blades > kingbanes?

balmy condor
dire lodge
#

i dont understand why DTB builds dont run fatal concoction, i guess its because talent before it kind of sucks

slim hamlet
dire lodge
#

rly?

dire lodge
#

u would think two lethal poisons would make that talent good

balmy condor
#

it's fine

#

its just not great

slim hamlet
#

That was smart play

balmy condor
#

but feel free to drop shadowstep and go fatal concoction instead

#

that's probably okay

dire lodge
#

my shadowstep macros still borked anyway

royal lantern
slim hamlet
#

But it's unironically fun

royal lantern
#

i mean, yeha

#

my goals are

#

max lvl

#

daily stuff then

slim hamlet
#

Swooping around, specially on evoker so you can soar when no vigor

balmy condor
dire lodge
#

ive made like

slim hamlet
#

Oh

royal lantern
#

and then no-life mining+bs after the m0 tour

slim hamlet
#

Sorry

dire lodge
#

500k afk today because i hit 2 star pelts for LW

balmy condor
#

YOU CANT HAVE FUN

#

DONT YOU GET IT

subtle tundra
#

time to put myself through suffering and upgrade my dragonriding

royal lantern
#

and yes, what whisp said

slim hamlet
#

Sorry dad

dire lodge
#

armor kits too

royal lantern
#

no fun allowed

#

fun is cringe

dire lodge
#

i cnat be out here working a job in wow too

royal lantern
#

its 300% worth it

balmy condor
#

you don't have to work a job in wow

sharp falcon
balmy condor
#

expansion isn't going anywhere

slim hamlet
subtle tundra
#

rn i hate dragonriding

dire lodge
#

flower minimum wage with mining on the side hustle

slim hamlet
#

Legit makes the system 100 times better

royal lantern
#

i got a runes asap after i unlocked riding, and it makes it so smoth varas

balmy condor
royal lantern
#

like, its night day difference

subtle tundra
#

cause it feels bad

hardy dagger
#

What dragonriding is sick

slim hamlet
#

Might be giga nasty now

balmy condor
subtle tundra
#

yes

balmy condor
#

ok

#

can't argue with that I guess

slim hamlet
dire lodge
royal lantern
#

everyone can have shit opinions whisp, its ok

dire lodge
#

and its truly

#

wows passive income

royal lantern
#

we still love him

vast goblet
#

Some people can’t enjoy things it seems

subtle tundra
#

its frustrating cause im bad and cant get anywhere fast

#

rn

#

cause i dont have upgrades

royal lantern
#

get them

drifting cloud
#

then go get them you lazy bum takes like 15min

balmy condor
#

the upgrades take like 20 minutes

royal lantern
#

zoom around the globe