#assassination
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Any wa that can track the two garrote's on deaths mark?
good bye BB, you will be missed 😰
I could but my mouse has 19 extra buttons so...

What crafted piece do i work order
love how the game is throwing 359/363 swords and maces at me, but no daggers
Sparks giving me fomo
everything but evasion and blind which are on alt keys
we arent taking SBS and IC at the same time right? probably just gonna macro both on one button
i think you can so SS or SBS
depends on dungeon/playstyle
but i did have KB/IC macro'd on one button during prepatch, but since we have both
i want to take a moment to say, this is the best assassination has felt in dungeons in a LONG time
i can't remember anything more satisfying than spreading the bleeds around on mobs like we can right now
I think sub and outlaw is considered to be best in M+
sin/outlaw
sub does damage though
Why would you?
is sin ahead on st comparing to outlaw?
shouldnt this work ?
#showtooltip
/cast [known:Serrated Bone Spike]Serrated Bone Spike;[known:Sepsis]Sepsis;[known:Indiscriminate Carnage]Indiscriminate Carnage
Seeing as stat prio is crit mastery now, is there a certain amount of haste I need to function?
Or it's just, dump as much into crit mastery as possible?
you would need to sim yourself
you never needed haste to function
very much so yes
haste literally only made your dots slightly faster and autoattack faster
I'm dumb.. can we use swords in offhand?
kk thats what i thought
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sLbwC8dm654WecrRUe79gh world events op
i got like 3 items after m0s
How the fuck u simming 12k higher than me
Scam
!fuu
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no
ok thanks. the faq says to use kingsbane during deathmark and jw why
double weapon poisons = double poison procs for kingsbane ramp
!wa
Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)
sameee
i will learn the new df rotation on day 1 of raid
dumb question, but whats a good first slot to craft a life binder piece in
Is Assa going to be the way to go for raid and m+?
grappling hook subterefuge bug still active?
no yathzee pirate zone here
hey so with the tempered dragon blades opener, do we still use the exsanguinate opener minus bone spike?
Are ya’ll leveling to 70 as Assassination or are you switching to Sub or Outlaw? I can’t figure out if there’s a big difference in speed.
I like Assassination in Dungeons, but should I be switching to Outlaw for open world stuff?
assassination is a bit slower than outlaw and sub for world stuff
but if you're enjoying it, stick with it
I did 60-70 all as assa
Alright - thanks pal 😎
Do we know which slot is bis for crafted leather? I know necklace, but for the other slot?
dtb felt pretty good for leveling tbh
I’m actually scared of that kingsbane build in raid
How is kingsbane with every possible active ability and ambush procs gonna work with higher secondaries lol
Or do I overestimate APM here?
Yeah past bedtime for me sorry. May voice my thoughts after I played it
If I am swapping from outlaw to assassination, will I need to farm a set of daggers? Or can I use my outlaw weapons for assassination?
Sin/Sub require two daggers
You can buy 343 daggers on the AH for like 2-5k each, depending on your server
can outlaw use two daggers?
I want to play sin raid and outlaw m+, so it would be nice if I didn't have to farm 2 sets of weapons and weapon swap each time
No, Outlaw requires a sword/fw/mace in the main hand
You can use a dagger in your OH, but you cannot use one in your MH
Typically speaking, once you get your main Outlaw weapon
Swap to Sin loot spec
Then you'll only get daggers
Outlaw cannot loot daggers and Sin/Sub cannot loot swords/maces/fw
got it, tyty
Many times, a dagger is preferred in the OH for Outlaw. Not always, but no matter what it's usually stupidly close
Whats the dslice of your equip? I got similar ilvl and want to know if looking for a 2nd dagger is of use for me or nah😅
in m+ spec?
Ye
sec
I mean the ST is stupidly close to my outlaws dslice so im wondering how much you can get in dslice
Oh, alright.
So kingsbane where do we put that on the opener? Like after what
#assassination-faq message theres your answer
You’re amazing ty one more question say we take the point off exsan what would be the better option I like it personally but just to play around I am curious
The BiS list for sin lists an int dagger as the offhand is that correct?
It's Whispyr's way of calling us idiots
So what're the odds on Assa getting nerfed before raid release with the dmg being done atn?
Doubt we will get nerfed dhs are broken and other classes still pump more
I reckon we will
Who'd you say is top dog atm, next to DH?
can we like
pretend exang is super fun and widely liked by the community, and that we abuse it in any way
so blizz deletes it
only if we stop pretending that blizzard uses community discord sims to make balancing decisions
deal?
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I'll consider it
at how many targets should i stop using rupture?
I dont think there is a similarly powerful talent for the point cost. Sim it yourself by clicking around in the trees on raidbots
what weapen enchants are bis ?
Aren't we supposed to refresh the first one ?
they run out at the same time
or if it's at the end of deathmark, the duplicated garrote just drops
and you're left with the regular one
so regardless, you're staring at the same timer
I just noticed on the plates i cast vanish garrote and then exsang then cast death mark, the first garrote run out and i am able to cast another. Im probably dumb though and im seeing it wrong.

yeah the deathmark duplicates the exsang'd garrote
so they're the same duration
shouldn't need to track anything on deathmark
You're right, but I do have to re-garrote mid dm right?
yeah once the exsang'd dots drop
Kk. Thanks lots more power!
whispyr what weapens anchats we focusing not on fuu sheet
hai guys, what is the current best PvE dps spec? Single target one?
for single target it's assa
afaik for pure singletarget assa
double sophic
thx
Yes
yep
!wa
Assassination WA's:
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/LuxthosRogueDragonflight (Luxthos's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)
are yall going into decayology?
guides seem to say thats the best/only way of actual power
so how the hell do we gain Knowledge outside of New Crafts and rng world drops?
I am. My 2nd sub-spec was Inspiring Ambience after
Rng world drops are super common btw just hunt for em
If you get your renown up you unlock more
where generally are you getting them from? idk even know what drops them specifically.
Like I have a ton of chests everywhere for the expedition renown and got 5 or so knowledge in a couple of mins
oh the supply packs
oh
That were unlocked from expedition renown
hm. may have to look into that. didn't pay TOO close attention to what loot i was getting from those.
Also a bunch of prof quests give knowledge
ye just got those in valdrakken
Knowledge is supposed to take ages fyi, mostly raised through prof weeklies
It's a main feature of the expac, meant to last a year
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Is the Cobalt rep ring working for yall? It is doing zero damage for me... yet a DH friend did 5% overall damage with it.
nah
it's just an int dagger
should be fixed soon
I fucking hate that gear page
bis lists are the dumbest shit on this planet
and yet every patch I have to do one
and pretend like I care
yeah
except for rings and neck
if it's crit/mast, huge
if it's vers/haste, probably not great unless it's big ilvl
if you can't tell
then you sim
well, you should always sim
for m+ i feel in order to get all my shit rolling fast enough, i need mfd instead of deeper strat. am i just buggin and cucking myself out of dmg?
but ya know, snap judgement
yep
fml
the "get all my shit rolling" is just IC
IC?
IC feel real good
faq has a visual guide

for abbreviations
okay thanks
np
oh if you are answering questions, bonespike is in the opener image, but there isnt a "if you are specced for it" on bonespike, but there is for kingsbane
we dont take bonespike for tempered build right?
you do
well
you can
it's basically whatever
I guess I could have it added to sbs as well
the "if talented" for kingsbane was because people will inevitably ask "okay but no kingsbane????"
yeh I just assumed people would just be like "I don't have it, so I skip that part"
but I guess I should've added it
you know what they say about assume
makes an ass out of u and me
ayyyy
yo bois! my wow weekend begins
Have fun Drag :D:D
My already over two days in, nothing to do more
the consensus is "raid isn't out"
Tuning round will probably also happen
if anything related to them happens tuning wise, I would think kingsbane would get a little bit of a boost over dragon tempered
but honestly if they just obliterate exsanguinate and then leave everything else
we're chilling
that's the easiest nerf
I see "easiest" as in "just nerf it and we're chilling"
and not "easiest" as in "easy to nerf"
cause uh
it's exsang

Knowing how blizzard tends to overreact when a spec appears strong pre raid, I would say if anything happens to them they'll both be nerfed
dunno bout that
sin is on-target for aoe/dungeons, and ahead in single target
wouldn't make sense for them to knock aoe or dungeon talents down
also the real outlier is exsanguinate
not KB or DTB
KB is like 8-9% atm
which is frankly probably a bit low for a capstone
I think kingsbane can easily take a 10% buff, exsang gets evaporated, and maybe like a 3% aura nerf
and we're mad chilling
that's my tuning hope at least
we'll see what happens
but I think exsang nerf is just a slam dunk
people don't like it, it's crazy strong
nuke it
hurts every build equally in single target
I remember back in BFA sub was looking good pre raid, they just nerfed it, didn't try to do it well.
And then sub broke a boss so they nerfed it even further into oblivion
Whispyr - is JC neck or LW belt not better than the items in the Sims?
Eng is a dps gain?
lol
neck
and idk bout the belt
but maybe
?? JC neck is mythic raid level with two sockets why is this lol
3 sockets
Fuck u right
like its depends cuz every character is diferent and like isnt better to just sim it and see whats better for u?
it does not depend on every character
just asking cuz im not the best tho ;-;
The sims are about bis...
hey whispyr can you tell me what the best snack to eat is while trying the advanced dragonflying races?
my balls
omw
wait is whispyr a dude?
yeah sorry to burst your bubble
im actually mad
Seems p reasonable to ask since it wasn't in the Sims and the Sims are the bis build. Obv it's early, but confirming I wasn't missing something
headcanon was "assassin mummy"
Bandit are you not actually a bandit? Wtf?
what can you do
cute assassin mummy teaches her proteges how to murder effectively
I am a bandit irl
I have to imagine a piece of LW gear that you can put your target stats on while reducing potion curses will outperform a raid item too. Just tbd which slot
yeah in my head im a 2d anime girl
but sadly irl im a 3d dude
respect that i wish i was like that 2;-;
we all have our struggles
Hey man it's 2023 in 4 weeks. If you wanna identify as a 2d anime girl we support you
how much of a difference is it if i stick to engineering/alc vs if i pick up JC or LW.
0
I need to see some keybinds. Examples. I'm at a loss for how to set myself up for ass rogue.
Also realized I should've been asking fuu because those were his Sims I was looking at
According the fuu Sims, for dungeons not playing KB + IC ( but DTB insted) is just less than 1% DPS looss. Anyone else play DTB for ease of use?
IC is fun af
so for my pre-raid crafted I want the JC neck?
Yes. But I'm not convinced IC isn't bugged.
Probably, and to upgrade it to 421 when you can
neat
any other crafted super worth targeting?
we get 1 per week right?
from the spark weekly limitation?
Isn't it better to just craft a weapon?
Afaik you can only "embellish" two items. Tho idk what the embellishments are
I don't think the crafted weapons outperform the raid weapons but I could be wrong
embellished is any crafted stuff
It's 1 from campaign and then one every 2 weeks until week 9 iirc
I just don't know what the embellishments do, how they get added, etc.
But the crafting system is super overcomplicated and I hate it
through subspecs and shit
You guys seem to live on a parallel world where raid daggers actually drop
it unlocks the ability to add it while crafting
& they're like missives
just slap it in the slot and bam
yeah or m+ daggers, or anything
So you need a guildy to have gone the right subspec...

Because I'm p sure guild crafting orders allow you to guarantee stats/ilvl
It took me 4 weeks to drop my first dagger on S3 SL
sounds like you didn't farm enough m+
You mean bugged for Sims? Idk I'm running out of usable kaybinds, already moved few to mouse 😄
So I need a guild blacksmith to have dagger subspec with crit/mastery?
No. I'm not 100% convinced IC bleeds are always giving energy Regen like they should.
you need a blacksmith with weaponcrafting yeh
But one who then also got dagger spec right?
It's dagger/fist weapons
Given how atrociously slow knowledge gain seems to be...that might be tough
I understand that true sin lovers prefe to run King's bane but If passive talent choice Sims the same, it should be better for removing user error during encounter
yeah or you just aren't a shitter
Dtb isn't actually easier to play than KB because it fucks with shiv

it's not like kingsbane is impossible to play
you hit it every minute with 2 shivs
it speeds up when you start getting a ton of mettle
Adding KB to my bars is easier than thinking about shiv timing
Wtf does mettle do
its fast if you legit do nothing but craft 24/7
so crafter mains actually have a legit path of progression this expansion, kinda cool
you can buy knowledge items from a vendor in valducken
Man I read the professions guides like 70 times and I don't understand any of it
Err exsang sry
when do you think about exsang
you hold for deathmark
isnt it just send on cd
With KB
Is there any other use for mettle? Should I just be buying knowledge?
is mettle some profession thing
Yes
Yeah I'm kinda shitter, but I did not play for 4 years and did play outlaw before. So I'm trying to be competitive as we have too many rogues for raid.
i literally have never seen this word in relation to wow until today
everyone gets one for free
I'm clowning you for asking a question like that after this
What embellishments can you add to a dagger? Like, any reason blacksmith dagger would outperform raid dagger?
have you crafted anything?
well there ya go
isnt there no reason to cant i work order everything
no
wait
Bsmith dagger ilvl cap is 421 right? So unless it gets a socket or unique effect it can't be worth it compared to the raid dagger
blizzard is making me engage with this content
no they're not
agreon must be shitposting
no there is no reason you can't workorder everything
surely
yeah me too
Work orders from public and guild are different. Public work orders you have to waste all your gold and mats rerolling over and over hoping for what you want. Guild ones you can pick.
anyone knows if there's any rare that drops purple daggers?
Rare loot disabled
they brought it back like an hour and a half ago or some shit
O
Wait Oxi
Can blacksmith dagger go above 421?
Your name is orange now, you're supposed to know the answers to all things
oxi knows nothing lmao
He knew the answers to two questions like 5 minutes ago 😦
Have we exhausted his orange usefulness?
pretty sure crafted gear tops out at 418
I know that your ass is roughly 2 hours out from bitching about exsang or snd again

Hmm. Also why does fuus sim not use 2x 424 dagger
cause haste/vers fucking sucks
Looks like crafted gear tops out at 418
didnt bitch about snd for months now
cus exsang exist

if I search your name
and snd
and there's something less than a month away besides that message
I'm muting you for 24hrs
It runs haste/mastery OH with one less socket. That...sounds wrong but I guess it could work out that work
mute dn
What's wrong with snd
weapons don't have sockets

Wowhead lying?!
wowhead can add sockets to everything
Shows 2 socket diurna wep, 1 socket nerzhul
enjoy your break
Bruh my whole life is a lie
hello friends
hi angelis
i have come in search of a build that does not take exsanguinate, knowing full well its not the best.
trying to reduce some button bloat if i can since my hands dont work to well
un-talent exsang, put anywhere else

!mute @royal lantern 24hr I wasn't lying, enjoy your break
I don't wanna get nerfed 😦
in the future btw, the command is "24h" or "1d"
1 word acronym
Just let us be warlocks
yeh it just added the R to the reason


would you rather it break?
won't it anyway?
like that one time I tried to mute a dude
i guess fatal concoction is going to be my best bet? Does not using ex change the entire build though? Is there a way to sim or? i want to be able to contribute something in group content.
It's time for Oxi to go back to green name. Orange trial failed.
well, g2g to work anyway
probably tiny toxic or improved poison, not sure how you get to fatal concoction without getting rid of another point
you can top gear talents
but exsang doesn't change the build majorly
Plz don't let them nerf us Mr whispyr
Chatting
😦

Warlock S3 and 4
I actually am all of blizzards tuning team
mythic plus dunge
ns
blizzard only cares about st tuning
Raids too.
nobody was an insane outlier in raid for st
Warlock just unethical and hide apl/Sims
well next time don't listen to seli and nerf energy regen
yeah man
Should be 20% or more
yet somehow blizzard can also not see that warlock player counts and damage is higher
because they cant see sims
they are blind
to what classes are good
true
top gear talents? whats that mean?
15 years straight of being the best class. Let us have one tier.
theorycrafters want rogue to be bad 
all the theorycrafters from every class in the game is actually a warlock
that's why their sims are dogshit
because they're too busy making every other class look decent
this is my truth
you may not agree
but I live my truth
ill check out raidbots. I got two talents left before i hit 70. does blindside bring up stealthbar or do i need to put it on my regular action bar?
you need ambush in your main action bar
also regarding raidbots, this might help
!simguide
Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights
For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.
cool thanks, one last question, before i leave you be to fiddle with raidbots for 12hours, any macros you could suggest?
Not sure if intended or a bug, but when you envenom on an anima charged combo point, cut to the chase doesn't seem to treat it as a 7 point envenom and only extend by how many cp you actually spent
bug
ok thats straightforward enough.
Sins major CDs are fully ST so you basically use them for prior targets in M+
Yes I know but you think adding targets would add DPS but nah
Morning fellas, I was wondering if there is a recommended craft as a first with the Spark? Is dagger always prio?
Im planning to see what drops and craft to fill the spot
not crafting anything till week 2-3 since it will be very expensive week 1 until crafters level more, and week 1 is mostly m+/tier set farming in heroic/normal
But yes dagger is prio
There’s downtime in dslice as well
Just wait. You can safely run m0 with a group of 350 itemlevel
I'm already 367 after first run
Same 366
Got all weapons for outlaw and sin
You step into the raid with 370+
It might be still worth crafting weapons
I switched for last boss for outlaw and got mace aswell 😄 got 3 weapons from last two m0
So basically ready to play w/e I want
But raidbot Sims my assa at 40k DPS and outlaw at 25k propably not working
Group loot ain’t it
Its personal loot in keys
No personal
Or dungeons rather
Weirdge
I had to give out 3 rings and one bracer for roll
As crazy as m+ Splits?
Oh no how horrible would that be 
Worse 😄
I’m sure all 15 people that would affect are really bummed by that

Tbh personal loot is fine as it is
i left the guild i had a trial in, because the RL demanded 3-4max lvl alts week1 for m0 splits
🙂
im not even max lvl on my rogue
Sounds like 1500
400-500, what else 
Looool I mean if your in thar guild
Oh god
mid lvl guilds are the most tryhard braindead shit possible
Good guild just say get gear as f**** that's it
thats why i left
Heard a lot of guilds even hard enforcing professions atm
and probs have casual raiding in df 
If there is a competitive environment for raids spots people will just do as much as they can
Bro my guilds is enforcing nothing i didnt even do my m0s yet
Lol again stupid just helping each other out is way more beneficial
Casual 😄
Yeah same, altho i did run my m0s
Im doing them later in the week
But nothing enforced
2 characters are like expected but not enforced
Because obviously you cant walk in with 304 gear
Watch me

Tomorrow or ovrr the weekend
btw whisp, would it be better if you put a "use your crafted gear slots on this stuff" in the FaQ/pins?
cus that question will come up alot
Our tank did one hc and then straight m0. Easy game. Although tank can do that
Our guilds had some plate stacks and theres people coordinating for mail cloth and leather
But yeah
It would be, mind telling me what to use them on?
Dn
Cause I don’t know
Value or not im omw to school, 50 min commute, for a 5 minute group talk and 2,50€ lunch, and then instantly back home another 50 mins
School 
do your sim magic
today im gonna reach 70 
Make the sim not press exsang
Then we wont get nerfed
Because
Only sims matter
For tuning
Been gaming hard, it's insane how nicely assassin play this expac, I love it
I hope they just nuke exsang and then nothing else
”Craft the crafted piece on whatever is your biggest upgrade on raidbots whenever you’re going to be crafting the item since none of them are end game items anyways”
-8% dps
i really dont like assa rn man 
We’re balanced
Yeah that’s what you think, you seen the neck?
You think a triple socket neck with special effect to make gems better
And main stat gem
Isn’t going to be good?

Triple sockets u can have on all necks tbf
God
Cause the unique equip gems are like 70 agi or some shit
Well let me rephrase
- other stat
”Craft the crafted piece on whatever is your biggest upgrade on raidbots whenever you’re going to be crafting the item since none of them are end game items anyways (except for the neck, considering crafting the neck)”
Perfect

"dont use crafted gear, just drop loot lmao"
Thanks for all the answers guys, its seems like I need to get myself a neck or mabye a neck?
Look at all these neckless people, golem gang taking over
Can't be a neckbeard if you have no neck though 
TRUE! hahahaha, just gotta figure this crafting order shit out xD
Yeah it’s a 50/50
You either need it or you don’t
allready made it to 68yesterday and are in the last zone
So you’re going to be 68?

Last zone is 0xp
expac comes Out???
yeha fuck you, overtime for the rest of the week
Was weird

should have applied for vacation this week
~45-50h and a new expac in a week is sad
i think i will pin this on my monitor
if assa doesnt get nerfed and im in warrior prison im gonna scream
It’ll get nerfed dw
Start screaming
wheres nocco prot warr fotm?
we already have 2 prot warriors ready to go
i am dps nocco warrior
@balmy condor bruh did you see i got a nocco chat cover
wdym warrior prison why are you in any class prison 
No I don’t watch your stream
if you wanna kill bosses you gotta make sacrifices
What world rank is your guild that you're rerolling
Or are you an officer or something
we're aiming for top 75 this tier
Okay that's fair
hope its not the same people as on jailer 
Daps is a simp
i can play multiple classes/specs so filling the gaps in the roster is more important than what i personally enjoy
we've made some changes
good prog pls 
watch them nerf amp poison and kingsbane
and not exsang
Yeah like replacing that shit fotmrogue guy with jpc’s EU rogue being played by a hamster drinking sugar water
what
ur mean

thats a very cute gif
I'm still thinking about that kings bane 😂 just dont want to play it... Basically playing IC for aoe, I can take poison bomb instead of KB? Sim about 0.5% same
389 ring any good?
yeh it's better than a 388 ring
I'm feeling very every starved in heroic dungeons when IC is on cd. I just can't get my ruptures up on many targets. Anyone else having similar issues? Maybe my crit is too low so I have to fok too much? Idk
you have 3 garrotes out and a couple ruptures and still are very starved?
Put on poisons
yeah cause your energy needs to regen
exsang is the worst ability in the game holy shit
Fair, I guess I'm just unreasonably expecting infinite energy like the IC pulls
In a dungeon where you know the boss will die before 2nd DM it's better to desync vanish and vanish after exsang garotte falls, right?
Bro energy starved even with thistle tea?
sure yeah
we don't run tea in dungeons
whats the best between crit and mastery for pvp ?
i see people having both
crit has a huge diminished value in pvp you should go vers mastery
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He guys, Is it only my feeling, or do get a huge Energie reg nervt from SL to now?
I would line to see Dashing Scoundrel gave us more then just 1 Energie... feels like i lag of fun to me tbh..
it's faster
ok really weird question
but is anyone able to mog their main hand dagger into either, vengeance, The dreamer or Tiriosh?
the daggers from the dragonsoul lego questline
only 2 weapon world quest rewards - 1h mace and 1h sword???? 
ok nvm, have to right click it, it shows the off hand one in the window. you have to do the 2 separately.
I got a dagger 364 ilvl from the water chest event
You can also get 364 gear from the weekly rep quest
BMQAOB/7AZ//CwQOf4fPMswHVjIRCSS0SAAAAAAAkAQSCAAAAAAgEkCtkkIJJRIJRCJJJJJA
delete this, can't risk this kind of narrative spreading, what you think people can just go around having fun?
hi make sd viable
Remove exsang
I just hate farming the herbs for it
mood
Also make it so i finally drop the last key framing i need omg
prog, varas... pls... LETS KEEP IT ON TOPIC IM HERE TO TALK ABOUT RAMPART, PLS ASK ABOUT RAMPART
RAMPART THIS 
my dude youre using language beyond my comprehension
Pretty sure fun is illegal around here
unbelievable got no u’d by the dev im down bad
HUH you edited so my little brain can understand
Still can't comprehend it
reference to very old reddit meme because i am very old
Boomer
sad_but_true.jpg
Back in my day we used to use the announcement page of the local news paper as a shit posting forum… u dont know old
hah
@sharp falcon dont nerf exsang or youre killing a damage profile on demand almost no spec in the game has
dont let the discord frogs get to you bro you truly a real one
man i need to think of new bad takes
how much pve damage am i losing by not using shiv before envenom off cd
like 3
i never played assass before df only sub i am not use to pressing this funny button
also can someone explain if this is right. exsang before deathmark dps gain for healthier targets, exsang after deathmark for burst?
right?
yo a question, we dont have bonespike on our ic kingsbane build ?
no, the only extra (very-short-term) dps you gain by pushing exsang after dm is the dm dmg itself, but reducing its duration is a huge overall dmg loss... tldr, never exsang during dm
yes
i guess more relevant in pvp again mb
Very niche
but ye ive been using exang before dm and its been a lot better in dungeons
ofc
but by a relatively small amount, enough that you might have been better off holding DM for a target that will live closer to the full duration (assuming you encounter that circumstance within the next 30-40sec)
its the biggest dps loss to exsang in dm
Yeah but DM dmg is such a small amount of your dmg
So might aswell get the prolonged dmg in case you can't one shot
Well I guess Realz legit just said that xd
the tldr stands, never exsang during dm is a good rule. The exceptions are extremely few and if you don't VERY clearly understand what those exceptional circumstances might be, you should stick to the rule and the damage you'll lose by not knowing // taking advantage of the exception will be negligible anyways
Or be a real man and forget to use exsang before, just for you to sit during DM and wonder if it's worth to wait or not
That's my gameplan
idk
He a real gamer
Realz is a chad
nah bro keep it coming
Coming for Whispyrs job
hardly lol
Does ER only apply to one target or does it charge my combopoints overall? And does it disappear when the target dies?
What
Your cps
Buff on yourself ye
Target based combo points haven't been a thing for a while
Which means no it doesn't get removed when enemy dies
Mop or cata i don't member
wasnt there an ability that could swap your cp to another target or something like that
cata had target cp
I tried out rogue in classic and was like wtf is this
Thnx, well figured if they did something special with just that spell
I remember redirect was in wotlk but don't remember when it was changed
Oof
No
i remember people mentioning redirect before
was it? maybe, i also remember the word and icon for redirect
that was what i was thinking of
No it was redirect
like a zig-zag arrow for redirect icon
Mfd was always a 5cp thing
how do u guys hit ur ER anima charged combo point consistently as ass
with seal fate and the combo point rng
Just rng it
This is correct
just let it happen
anyone got a lvling setup you wanna share please please?
Garrote is also 1 cp
You can't really go for a specific amount bcs of seal fate
dont play around it at all
ehhh if im 1 cp away shiv feels like a gain
garrote is guaranteed 1cp, but shiv can get seal fated to 2cp
just land on it
it always happens eventually
tbh i think its much harder to land on 2 for sub
I have not had a time where I didn't get atleast 3 of them in the time you have the buff
3cp ambush and shadowy techniques make it hard
how to use shadowmeld for dps gain, just always use for improved garrote right unless u need to cheap shot something asap?
2 for sub is trivial
Finish + wait 4 sec
You pool some energy
I mean 2 is fine, just simply don't hit seal fate
is sub playing seal fate rn
Ye
vanish 2 min cd, death mark 2 min cd. should i line up second vanish or shadowmeld with exsang?
yeah gotcha
I used this, not perfect but got the most essential things
because i was thinking you could save a few seconds with a gloomblade
Sub gloomblades a lot and the extra cp are insane
but nah
Switching some stuff for PB might be better
Ye
warmode off gaming in sl
then you just go pb/kb or dtb+some zoldyck points
Ye
i played kb
Imp garrote, MfD envenom with pb also just oneshots anything
because i felt like it
War mode was completely useless in sl
ive been running around as sub in open world
using the 300k opener on random evokers and monks and dhs in particular
and druids too
Ah yes the ER cold blood?
all of those classes deserve a 100k echoing reprimand
world pvp 
Yep we back to start of SL
havent touched a single player while i leveled with wmon
the rotten + danse + the bajillion dmg modifiers sub gets + cold blood + er is truly unhinged
Or hear me out
Play sin
Put up everything with exsang and dm
and vanish and just watch them struggle
sub is infinitely more tilting to die too imo
Yep
go to sleep
but yes that is a good combo
No counterplay unless healer
i watched a sub rogue in arena earlier 2v1 against paladin monk, blinded the paladin gouged the monk and 1 shot the full hp monk is probably .75 seconds and then vanished
truly a beautiful sight
is dragon tempered blades > kingbanes?
how about I herb for another 6 hours flying around on a horny lizard
i dont understand why DTB builds dont run fatal concoction, i guess its because talent before it kind of sucks
For what?
other way around
rly?
level a feral ;3
u would think two lethal poisons would make that talent good
This tbh, I herbed and mined for 4 hours, until it was 4:30AM and I had to go to school at 9
That was smart play
but feel free to drop shadowstep and go fatal concoction instead
that's probably okay
my shadowstep macros still borked anyway
all that work, to get ah flipped by a bot

But it's unironically fun
Swooping around, specially on evoker so you can soar when no vigor
STOP HAVING FUN
ive made like
Oh
and then no-life mining+bs after the m0 tour
Sorry
500k afk today because i hit 2 star pelts for LW
time to put myself through suffering and upgrade my dragonriding
and yes, what whisp said
Sorry dad
armor kits too
i cnat be out here working a job in wow too
dude
its 300% worth it
you don't have to work a job in wow
with master assassin spec'd? bonus points if yes lol
expansion isn't going anywhere
That aint suffering
rn i hate dragonriding
flower minimum wage with mining on the side hustle
Legit makes the system 100 times better
i got a runes asap after i unlocked riding, and it makes it so smoth varas
why do you hate good things
like, its night day difference
cause it feels bad
What dragonriding is sick
I did when leveling, but havn't tried it since
Might be giga nasty now
it feels bad going 3x the speed of normal flying on day 2 of an expansion?
yes
I just use it to level professions on all my other chars
i use to grind gold then i got vial of the sands recipe like 3 years ago
everyone can have shit opinions whisp, its ok
we still love him
Some people can’t enjoy things it seems
its frustrating cause im bad and cant get anywhere fast
rn
cause i dont have upgrades
get them
then go get them you lazy bum takes like 15min
the upgrades take like 20 minutes
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