assassination

[spice spire]

Turns out CT+PB is difficult to nail down. That’s the final thing afaik

[marble hemlock]

its not even that good. momentarily it feels good, but it also leads to having to refresh bleeds faster, which is really just exsanguinate in a different form

[primal sigil]

fair

[limber lion]

Yeh exactly, just awful.

[uncut echo]

Thought on CT giving scent at reduced effec

Effect

[marble hemlock]

no

[limber lion]

No

[uncut echo]

[spice spire]

I’m gonna follow the green name here and say no.
That will end up loading to spam mentality

Spam CT = cringe!

[marble hemlock]

class needs nothing other than maybe just some rupture buffs

as in, just make it deal more damage while other skills deal less to retain the same baseline in st but have stronger aoe

assa already plays amazingly well in aoe. the only part is that its oversaturating energy with nothing to spend it on. but thats a small issue, ultimately

[uncut echo]

I'd like more from rupture

I think I big agree

[thorn crater]

imagine choosing to make an evoker from the right side under the hideous goblins and for some reason it spawns u in as alliance that u only notice after u have finished the quests and u end up in front of stormwind

wtf

[uncut echo]

Doesn't sound sin related, scalie scum

[spice spire]

Vdh main speaking

[uncut echo]

MAIN?

This is a hate crime

GreenAbuse

[spice spire]

Whoah buddy, what class have you played the most since reset? 🤨

[uncut echo]

Literally rogue

Just the pirate kind

[spice spire]

Even worse

[subtle tundra]

Yikes

Sorry

Hope you get better

[uncut echo]

I enjoy outlaw

Smh

[subtle tundra]

Loser

[uncut echo]

Shit take

[spice spire]

Buddy, it’s okay to let people enjoy things

Believe it or not

[subtle tundra]

Nah

Loser

[uncut echo]

Uh?

[spice spire]

Don’t make me pull your io this tier buddy 🤨

Gonna see a lot of non assassination 🤨

[burnt latch]

Varas noob

[uncut echo]

Or perhaps don't be a dick to people for liking other things

Idk

[spice spire]

You get used to varas

I’ll never get used to the greatness of mister warcieft tho

[violet jackal]

it's his love langurage

[spice spire]

That one time in vc was the greatest 15 minutes of my life

[subtle tundra]

I'm literally the Break The Meta champion

[burnt latch]

[uncut echo]

Exusing people's shit behavior because is dumb

[twilit hollow]

My love language is holiday themed reeses candy

[spice spire]

I don’t excuse it, I just ignore it unless it becomes full on flame

[spice spire]

You and Val share the same love language then

And 2/3 the letters

[burnt latch]

Warcieft mr polite never rude (except when sometimes)

[strange python]

subtely gang

[spice spire]

Warcieft most wholesome rogues

[burnt latch]

No u

[spice spire]

No man

[tropic ocean]

this reads like musclebrah wrote it

[patent igloo]

That guys is annoying af

[spice spire]

Better to not engage the trolls

[subtle tundra]

You always engage me tho

[spice spire]

That’s because I love you despite yourself

[vernal adder]

Cant wait to lvl as outlaw and play it at 70

[spice spire]

[vernal adder]

I did setup my sin bars so thats a start

[spice spire]

I’m proud of you

I’m gone for a few hours - be good chat, or else

[viscid spear]

I'ma level my Hunter rn

[strange python]

Dashing Scoundrel have a currently buggy?

[gusty mirage]

the legendary?

[strange python]

Talent

[gusty mirage]

it shouldn't no

[vernal adder]

dont worry I will moderate

[strange python]

In game only regenerates 1 energy

[gusty mirage]

[vernal adder]

[viscid spear]

All I really need from this prepatch is that heirloom but I have plenty of time
Until then I'm just gonna level some alts

[gusty mirage]

yeah that's odd

[strange python]

I'm sure they'll change but these early 70 builds look so wild from what anyone would've guessed in early beta

Tea, ER, Exsang

[gusty mirage]

@strange python yeah just double checked it, it's for sure either bugged or a tooltip thing

loooks like a tooltip thing on wowhead

cause it says 1 energy in game

[subtle tundra]

Pretty sure I always has been 1 energy

[gusty mirage]

wowhead lists it at 5 energy

for whatever reason

[strange python]

Wowhead wrong

Pretty sure realz confirmed it would be 1 at every level awhile back

[gusty mirage]

wowhead needs to get its shit together

well the leggo was 1 energy as well iirc

[strange python]

Yeah

I vaguely remember some logic about 3 being too OP and not wanting the weird scaling of 1/1/2 for a 3 node talent

I've heard early Sims have sin competitive with outlaw in m+ and ST...plz be true. No more clown pirate enjoying

[foggy socket]

so, if i am understanding correctly we are taking echoing, and tea, and serrated, and exsang, and kingsbane. that seems like a lot of buttons

[strange python]

Yes.

In wowhead is 15 with 3 points

[gusty mirage]

yeah wowhead's wrong

in game it says 1 energy

[strange python]

15 energy pog

[foggy socket]

i feel like that makes for a clunky ass rotation, has that sentiment not been the case?

[gusty mirage]

this was a 33s log, 140 energy from dashing would be a crazy amount of energy

[strange python]

Idk if anyone has any opinions solidified until we play it, but a few people have been unhappy with exsang and ER coming back, yes.

[gusty mirage]

I'm reformed on exsang

[strange python]

SBS is very popular here no matter how much I hate it

I'm cautiously skeptical of ButtonBloatSin, but we'll see.

[foggy socket]

i dont like serrated myself either

[strange python]

As far as I know, you don't do any real minmaxing with ER and Exsang other than send them on CD

[royal lantern]

"a few" and exsang

[strange python]

And SBS is just stay below stack cap

[gusty mirage]

just try it

it's fine

I promise

[royal lantern]

litearlly everyone except quakenhates it

[gusty mirage]

[royal lantern]

stockholm got you

[gusty mirage]

nah with the KB build you just send it on CD

it's whatever at that point

[strange python]

Exsang without requisite juicing honestly doesn't seem as bad to me

The worst part of exsang was the setup and holding

[light garnet]

is there any difference between putting a point in ttb instead of ip?

[gusty mirage]

just one gcd every 45s

[strange python]

I'm more annoyed about ER tbh

Tea is just send during DM, no?

[subtle tundra]

I'm here

[royal lantern]

*no relevant person except quake

sorry

[subtle tundra]

Loser

[spice spire]

I also don’t necessarily enjoy it; but it’s just whatever.
Also I’d argue that varas is 1000000% more relevant than I

[gusty mirage]

tea is just dump energy before using

[strange python]

Real? I remember at some point tea was for the mastery not the energy. That flipped?

[royal lantern]

im joking m8

[subtle tundra]

Omg cutie

[gusty mirage]

turns out it was always for the energy

and the mastery was just a nice bonus

go figure

[spice spire]

Yeah we were GCD capped then

[strange python]

Hmm

[spice spire]

Now we’re not

[royal lantern]

no, just all our capstones are not good lmao

like, we can grab2

dance sucks

[gusty mirage]

woah woah woah

[strange python]

It feels thematically weird to get a mastery buff not sent during DM

[royal lantern]

tea and er are left over

[gusty mirage]

tea good

we like tea

[royal lantern]

bri*ish person detected

[strange python]

I have a question, on single target kingsbane or DTB is better?

[spice spire]

You saying no one else can like tea?

[gusty mirage]

they're about equal at level 70

literally within margin of error on the sims

[spice spire]

That is in the pins my man - both builds for current best set up are there (it’s a pick your poison moment)

[subtle tundra]

If you're gonna die before 35% dtb is better so I will reco mmend dtb

[gusty mirage]

[strange python]

[gusty mirage]

we also have the best execute in the game rn

which is sick as fuck

[vernal adder]

die and get ressed at 35

[iron valve]

How does exsanguinate interact with SBS, if at all?

[strange python]

Is this with or without tier

[gusty mirage]

the sims were done with tier

[strange python]

Interesting

[spice spire]

It doesn’t

[strange python]

So KB build likely substantially better before tier

Time to redo all my keybinds to find room for all these CDs

[uncut echo]

In all reality since dtb is passive it'd be easier to use, ya?

[forest nacelle]

with EXS, do i let my bleeds run out of reaapply after use?

idk how it works so

[gusty mirage]

ye you'd wait for the exsang'd bleeds to run out before reapplying

[forest nacelle]

ok ty

[gusty mirage]

I suppose, idk if the dtb exsang logic is still giga cursed or not

[strange python]

KB likely gains value on any fight with burst windows or notable downtime

[gusty mirage]

but comparing exsang usage in early sims between KB and DtB

I'm running KB all day

[strange python]

Does Dtb do exsang juicing shit?

[teal bloom]

There's a difference in exsang usage between kb and dtb?

[gusty mirage]

with dtb like nothing was synced ever

it probably changed because a lot has changed since

[strange python]

And with KB you just hold shiv

[gusty mirage]

ye and send exsang on CD

[next edge]

So with KB

You rather hold that shivs for 10 sec

Than release without it

Interesting

[deft vault]

Is there a bone spike/sepsis macro somewhere ?

[light garnet]

you dont need one afaik

i guess if you want one, you can make one using the new [known] macro keyword

[plain cipher]

How you take bone spike and sepsis?

Or your necrolord?

[deft vault]

/cast [known:Serrated Bone Spike]Serrated Bone Spike;[known:Sepsis]Sepsis

this aint working

[deft vault]

nah one or the other

[subtle tundra]

life is an unknown...

[violet jackal]

That macro doesn’t look correct

[gusty mirage]

using spell names won't work

but to save you the trouble, sepsis is trash tier and we don't take it

[deft vault]

it works for sbs but doesnt work for sepsis

[teal bloom]

Acrobatic strikes feels so weird

[violet jackal]

Agreed

[subtle tundra]

its based

let me hit things from afar

[gusty mirage]

just forget you have it and stand inside the boss anyway

[subtle tundra]

more leeway to my greed

[gusty mirage]

like I did

[subtle tundra]

more time to hit the boss

[teal bloom]

haha

[gusty mirage]

I was standing in my circle for rygelon

and I was still able to hit him

and I was like wtf

[subtle tundra]

cry about it

[violet jackal]

It’s Definetly good just weird like when I did skolex I was able to step back from blue puddles and still hit him

[gusty mirage]

I'll cry about it when I tuck you in tonight

[vestal wren]

i am not sure if sepsis is that actively used on any of the 3 specs

[subtle tundra]

give sepsis unity

[vestal wren]

subtlety takes it with dark brew because it gets buffed quite a lot

[gusty mirage]

I think sepsis's best chance was for sub

[vestal wren]

but also only if it does not go DM

[subtle tundra]

stepsieee

[crystal nymph]

which poison should we use ampfifying ?

[vestal wren]

yes, i think sub atm has the highest chance of taking it

[gusty mirage]

if you're talented into amp you use amp

[vestal wren]

^

[crystal nymph]

yeah for image 1 scenario

[gusty mirage]

yeah then you'd use amp

[crystal nymph]

ty

[gusty mirage]

[subtle tundra]

if you do aoe with that build you use dp

[crystal nymph]

ok man ty

[obtuse robin]

current outlaw apl takes sepsis, it doesnt want to waste any globals on br or keeping up ghostly in the ambush build

for m+ build

but that was days ago who knows what has been discovered sinse

oh correction not anymore

[vestal wren]

did hear that before, but it is not that obvious thats the best build for outlaw

[midnight mist]

Well I think br is best now

Sorry

[spice spire]

How dare you have a delayed answer about outlaw outside of #outlaw

[subtle tundra]

outlaw zzzzzzz

[sturdy merlin]

outlaw

[midnight mist]

utlaw

[thorn fjord]

Yaarrr

[spice spire]

[obtuse robin]

[warm olive]

Can anyone say what this is? I have no addons enabled and this comes everytime I try to use a mount in my bag and I had it earlier with another item, can't remember what it was though.

[spice spire]

The tldr is that some add on is not up to date and is causing taint

Disable and figure out the cause

Is the solution

[warm olive]

I have no addons, none, zero.

[spice spire]

It could just be, add on not properly updated to round 2 of prepatch yet

Oh

Uh.

Close and reload

[warm olive]

Tried everything, just about to reinstall, but wanted to ask here first.

[midnight mist]

[spice spire]

I got nothing

It’s 99.9% of the time an add on issue

[frigid wigeon]

Question time. How does one track Improved Garrote with a weakaura? It's the same spell name and ID as just garrote

It'd be nice if I knew what garrote is on my target before my noob-ass starts reapplying normal garrotes during pandemic window

[vast loom]

its very annoying and probably better to find one on wago

[frigid wigeon]

I literally couldn't find anything for the past few hours, that's why I'm desperate

[spice spire]

It is not

381632

[vestal wren]

i alreay hate it and i only use like 12 addons

[spice spire]

Is for improved garrote

703 is normal garrote

[frigid wigeon]

I tried it before and it wasn't working

Let me double check

It's not doing it

I also can't see the debuff ID on my target so I tried all debuff IDs present by WeakAura if I typed Garrote

None of them work, just 703

[spice spire]

Take a SS real quick

[vast loom]

is this new?

[frigid wigeon]

Not sure if you wanted a screenshot of the WA

[spice spire]

Yeah that’s what I was looking for

One moment

Trying from memory

[vast loom]

i had a huge custom coded WA i had to make for it in SL for knowing if it was subt garrote or not

ima go fix it now lol

[spice spire]

I’m unsure if it’s a debuff here - I wish I were at my desk at home so I could test it

[frigid wigeon]

To give more info, the talent gives the player the following buff:

[spice spire]

Hoping some weak aura guru who’s more knowledgeable than my “test and see” method will answer soon

[frigid wigeon]

I've even reached the guys over at the WA Discord

So far, no luck

[frigid wigeon]

If yours still works, could you share it please?

[spice spire]

Did you try that spell ID too? It’s different from wowhead but could be not updated

[frigid wigeon]

Yeah I did, still nothing

[vast loom]

1 sec testing now

[spice spire]

[vast loom]

nah its same debuff when "improved"

[frigid wigeon]

Right?

Dev oversight maybe?

[vast loom]

nah its standard lol

[frigid wigeon]

So how does one track it?

I can't think of a way

[vast loom]

you have to use custom code

[spice spire]

That’s fucked

[frigid wigeon]

Yeah but under what conditions?

What would be the trigger there

[ancient rain]

if you had the imp garrote buff when you casted garrote

[vast loom]

aand you need to keep track of the targets you put it on

[spice spire]

So I’m a dumas and didn’t realize it’s legit the same debuff - the buff is id’d and requires custom afaik

And I’m not versed enough for that one, sorry

[frigid wigeon]

Arf

Me neither, rip

[spice spire]

Yeah it’s annoying ngl

[ancient rain]

what language is the custom code written in?

[vast loom]

i dm;d you some stuff about how to do it

lua

[spice spire]

I even had to ask an outlaw main

[vagrant bison]

i think quazil assasination set had an improved garrote

[spice spire]

[vast loom]

luxthos has one too i think

[midnight mist]

could try making something

[vagrant bison]

but it was a long time ago, can't say if it still works

[frigid wigeon]

Zac, you already saved me with the combo points

[midnight mist]

But my PC died rn i think, so I hope you guys find a solution

[spice spire]

Zac is indeed a lad

[frigid wigeon]

Christmas miracle guy right there if you make it work xD

[frigid wigeon]

I'll definitely check

Thanks so much for the help everyone, really appreciated

[spice spire]

Sorry I couldn’t do more.
Legitimately thought it would be easier

[frigid wigeon]

Could be easier honestly if it was a different debuff

[vast loom]

yeah, anything that snapshots typically requires custom code

IE feral

[vagrant bison]

https://wago.io/ZoHLmeDsb

[frigid wigeon]

I have them somewhere already

[vagrant bison]

i remember that the garrote icon had a glow when it was improved

can't check it now, try it yourself 😄

[frigid wigeon]

Funny enough that's exactly what I want it to do

Thanks thanks thanks

[vast loom]

to me glow means press it so i prefer text changing

[spare crow]

Glow = Press it
Shine = Buff active / Debuff active on enemy

In the case of Improved garrote I too would change its color

[strange python]

HEU

Do we still have Vendetta ???

[subtle tundra]

no

vendetta is now an outlaw ability

[strange python]

Bruh

haha

[subtle tundra]

sorry

that was mean

[vagrant bison]

toxic

[strange python]

I don't see it 😢

[vagrant bison]

its a pvp talent

[spare crow]

Vendetta is

[vast loom]

[subtle tundra]

check the "deathmark" ability

[spare crow]

Sent to Shadowlands PvP jail

[strange python]

still don't see it x)

[vast loom]

can it still be applied via sepsis leggo?

[strange python]

so they changed vendetta for death mark ?

[spice spire]

It’s been replaced by death mark

Yes

[spare crow]

Yes our new cd is called deathmark

no more vendetta

[strange python]

Well, I feel like its a downgrade, it is a verified feeling ?

[spice spire]

Nah deathmark is major +++

[strange python]

Hum okey

But vendetta actually brought someting to the table in aoe, death mark don't ?
Ok it does bring extra energy to via Venomous Wounds

[spare crow]

They function in a similiar way, but deathmark is a huge upgrade

[subtle tundra]

wtf did vendetta bring

must be something i missed in 4 years

[strange python]

energy generation ?

[subtle tundra]

energy regen is not something in aoe

[vagrant bison]

stealth vision

[strange python]

Well, it adds someting

[subtle tundra]

no it didnt

[strange python]

I thought Death mark didn't bring NOTHINg, but Like I said, extra venomous wound some same all same all

[subtle tundra]

also deathmark does give more energy

[vagrant bison]

yep, you could see the targets if they stealthed with the debuff on

[subtle tundra]

more than vendetta did

vendetta gave 60 energy

[strange python]

I figured since you say its an upgrade

[subtle tundra]

but saying that vendetta gave energy and it mattered in aoe is completely false

[spare crow]

regardless, we have IC now, and that is the gamechanger for me

In aoe situations, did you try it already? @strange python

it feels so good

[strange python]

The thing for me is

You want to always synchro death mark and vanuish or no ?

[spice spire]

They should line up pretty fair

[strange python]

Cause if you engage a boss, you want to death mark since you have a improved Garrot available without Vanish

[spice spire]

Since they’re both 2m

[strange python]

Starting from here, you have both spell non synchro

or you don't death mark on the pull, and wait for the stealth-garrot to fade to then vanish and death mark

[valid leaf]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[spice spire]

You don’t deathmark automatically

[strange python]

hello guys!

[spice spire]

Greetings

[violet jackal]

deahtmark like 4 seconds into the pull and then vanish is like 12 seconds after

[next edge]

wish i could play

but update agent is buged

[spice spire]

Is it actually? Or is it weird? I had to close all background processes for mine to update last night

All battlenet**

[next edge]

It's on a "initializating" infinite lopp

and doesn't update

Closed everything too

still nothing

[spice spire]

Yeah try closing all background processes rq. Even after you close battlenet, it “remains open”

[gusty mirage]

ye

what quake said

open task manager nuke everything blizzard

[next edge]

Did that

[gusty mirage]

and relaunch and wait

[next edge]

and nothing

[gusty mirage]

or

there was a tweet about this last time it happened

there's like some prepatch download shit

from like

BFA

[spice spire]

[next edge]

Yeah it doesnt work

sadge

[spice spire]

[next edge]

Wanted to play Sin on today raid after 1 month break

and this happens

[spice spire]

It’s a sign

[viscid spear]

||Play Mage||

[gusty mirage]

@next edge try closing bnet launcher and deleting all the indexes in this folder

it should redownload them

well the relevant ones

[grizzled jay]

@next edge go into task manager and end Blizzard Updater (or something like that) after closing the bnet client. Usually works for me.

[next edge]

Just delete the folder?

[next edge]

Tried that but sadly doesnt work either

[next edge]

Doesn't work either

[gusty mirage]

😦

have you tried restarting your PC?

[spice spire]

Scan and repair?

[next edge]

Everything, yeah

[spice spire]

[viscid spear]

What poisons am I using?

[spice spire]

Amp > deadly > instant

[viscid spear]

mb

[strange python]

Does Duskwalker works on Deathmark ?

[thorn fjord]

Yep

It’s fixed

[strange python]

nice

[gusty mirage]

did you just call instant poison lethal?

[spice spire]

Bro

I’m going to kiss you on the mouth for pointing that out ty

[gusty mirage]

do it

you won't

[spice spire]

[next edge]

Since i deleted the files @gusty mirage

it still doesnt work

but now its downloading 1006 files

[gusty mirage]

yea mine did that too

[next edge]

You broke my game

[gusty mirage]

but then suddenly it worked

idk what the fuck happened

[next edge]

88/1006

for an hour

[gusty mirage]

but the last 2 big patches scuffed something in battle net

[next edge]

[spice spire]

Community figure? More like community menace

[timid cloud]

Fix it, Lamb?

[potent mauve]

I'm having the same issue. I'm tempted to copy my wtf/addons folder and just do a fresh install

[timid cloud]

It should be a hang up.

No cap. Last time that happened to me, simple restart works usually.

[potent mauve]

I restarted my computer, I tried to repair, none of it worked

[timid cloud]

[potent mauve]

I'm at 956/1006 though. So hopefully it will be fine after this.

[timid cloud]

As long as it moves to reclaiming space, you should be okay.

That’s the real fear of god moment.

Was there a new pin?

[spice spire]

No

Reorder

[timid cloud]

Ah.

[spice spire]

Because the infamous legendary question was asked a few times in a row

[subtle kiln]

what broke?

or what did oxi break?

[timid cloud]

Shiv Broke?

[spice spire]

Nah Exsang broken

You always pick it

[timid cloud]

New gaslight technology from Quake.

[spice spire]

Yes man

[timid cloud]

NF canceled.

[subtle kiln]

📈

[spice spire]

Friendship with NF ended, exsanguinate is my new best friend now

[uncut echo]

WYM GUYS

Cydone I'm sepsis is based

[subtle tundra]

just

[spice spire]

This mf swore I was gaslighting his ass

[subtle tundra]

remove all talents

[gusty mirage]

okay crazy person

back to the white padded room

[subtle tundra]

give me rupture garrote envenom toxic blade vendetta

nothing else

[spice spire]

Sepsis was fine, it was no sbs tho

[spice spire]

Bone spike buddy

[gusty mirage]

sepsis was trash

[uncut echo]

It's fire and forget big single target number

[subtle tundra]

no

[gusty mirage]

it always was

[subtle tundra]

the bfa experience

[uncut echo]

Nah sepsis is cool

[subtle tundra]

rupture garrote envenom toxic blade vendetta

[gusty mirage]

everyone remembers sepsis + reworked conduit + toxic onslaught

it was literally trash

[subtle tundra]

thats all i need

[spice spire]

Cool is a stretch

[uncut echo]

It may suck but it's cool

[subtle tundra]

45 apm

[gusty mirage]

the only reason we ever played night fae was because the soulbinds were strong in 9.0

[subtle tundra]

living the life

[gusty mirage]

stop it

[uncut echo]

No I ran sepsis 9.0

[gusty mirage]

[uncut echo]

SRS

I did!

:(

[spice spire]

I mean yeah

[gusty mirage]

if you played night fae after 9.0.5 you were throwing

[spice spire]

He said the thing

[uncut echo]

I didnt play rogue after 9.0.5

[spice spire]

Necrolord supremacy

[uncut echo]

:>

[subtle tundra]

loser

[uncut echo]

Not again

[timid cloud]

Stinky.

[uncut echo]

Varas we're slowly losing homie status

[subtle tundra]

=-=-=-=-=-=

[spice spire]

Bro?

[uncut echo]

I was gonna show you my pen collection

[timid cloud]

Sepsis was buns after Burrs was nerfed.

Change my mind.

[subtle tundra]

youre not an actual rogue player? im betrayed.

[uncut echo]

I AM

[timid cloud]

Ahri tank main.

[uncut echo]

I QUIT WOW UNTIL 9.2.5

LOL

[subtle tundra]

see?

my point

[spice spire]

Wait no

[subtle tundra]

and then you played... vdh

[spice spire]

That means ahri is the most sane mf here

[timid cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/power-lord-of-the-rings-lotr-gif-9197188

[uncut echo]

No, BDK s3 for keys

[spice spire]

The quitting, not that part

[uncut echo]

Rogue raid

[timid cloud]

Sniff sniff….

[spice spire]

Don’t bully guys wtf

[uncut echo]

Vdh for s1 df

[spice spire]

That’s my job to all of u

[timid cloud]

[subtle tundra]

assa rogue aallllllll the wayyyyyyyy

like a real G

[timid cloud]

Only time I quit Sin was 9.0…

[uncut echo]

Im playing sin in raid

[spice spire]

Ur io says otherwise mister varas 🤨

[uncut echo]

But I'm vdh for title

[subtle tundra]

what does it say?

WHAT DOES IT SAY?

noob

[timid cloud]

Mine says 250 score for Sin

[spice spire]

It says a lot of outlaw and sub in shadowlands buddy

[subtle tundra]

it doesnt

[spice spire]

🤨🤨

[timid cloud]

I healed more keys on alts than games play as Sin in M+

[spice spire]

Please hold

[timid cloud]

[gusty mirage]

don't worry about him

he played necro sin in SoD

[subtle tundra]

ah

ok...

[timid cloud]

He got so many rank 1’s though…

For healing.

[spice spire]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/draenor/Váras#season=season-sl-1

[timid cloud]

[spice spire]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/draenor/Váras#season=season-sl-2

[subtle tundra]

stalker

[spice spire]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/draenor/Váras#season=season-sl-3

[timid cloud]

This man has a family, stop!

[subtle tundra]

get off my d**k

[gusty mirage]

yeah man's fried

[spice spire]

Ur telling me for three seasons assassination wasn’t your main and you’re clowning someone else for the same 🤨

[subtle tundra]

it literally was

[timid cloud]

If you ain’t dick ridin’ your friends, are they really your friends?

[spice spire]

It wasn’t the power top

S4 am proud tho

[subtle tundra]

s4 omegalul

sure

[gusty mirage]

?????

seems pretty good to me

[spice spire]

So true bestie

But it was below sub

🤨

[timid cloud]

[spice spire]

World 2 isn’t good enough, unreal elitism from the casual Andy

I can’t believe it

[gusty mirage]

yeah after a certain point you don't want to int key prog

[timid cloud]

Oxi is getting the Mr.Instigator award.

[gusty mirage]

you want him to follow in the footsteps of Mr. Fan of Knives in ST himself?

[timid cloud]

[timid cloud]

Stop.

[spice spire]

We dare not speak his name

[gusty mirage]

Maybelukewarmx

[timid cloud]

Wait, who is that?

[spice spire]

Literally the Voldemort of assassination

[timid cloud]

Did he go Poison Katar?

[gusty mirage]

stop bullying varas

[spice spire]

PotentiallychillyZ

[subtle tundra]

holy fuck i played a lot of outlaw in s1

[gusty mirage]

no

[timid cloud]

You gotta run that logic by me.

[gusty mirage]

his brain got poisoned katared

[gusty mirage]

POISON APPLICATION

OMEGALUL

[subtle tundra]

i guess thats what happens when assa is completely unplayable for half the season

[timid cloud]

How did you come to the conclusion….

[spice spire]

I love varas tho

[timid cloud]

No shot….

[subtle tundra]

🫡 🥰

[gusty mirage]

@oak sky help

[spice spire]

S1 meant you had a brain.
No one should have ran assassination that season

[timid cloud]

Dude, y’all are gonna make me kiss you on the lips.

[spice spire]

[timid cloud]

Gonna make me say something bromosexual.

[gusty mirage]

as soon as assassination got buffed & necro was nice

I played it

[subtle tundra]

s2 was redemption though

[spice spire]

I meant for the first half

Like he said

It was literally peen and Deï in m+ and that was it

[subtle tundra]

yea i stopped playing m+ later in the season

[spice spire]

S2 sin was fun

[gusty mirage]

"fun"

[spice spire]

S3 affix

[timid cloud]

Gems carried it in S2

I did play some in PF

Or TOP

[gusty mirage]

S1 breakdown for me

[oak sky]

Whatup

[gusty mirage]

[gusty mirage]

@timid cloud doesn't believe there was fan of knives usage in ST by mr. lukewarm

[timid cloud]

You’d have to dig for mine, I’m going back to work.

[oak sky]

Lol

Well you see cydone

With poisoned katar

[timid cloud]

I mean I was asking what the mental illness was behind that?

[oak sky]

Its actually good to fill your cp

[timid cloud]

????

[spice spire]

Feelcraft

[gusty mirage]

he did it as sub too

[timid cloud]

HUH

[oak sky]

Not all the time but sometimes

See it cant be consistent

[spice spire]

Anyway, don’t bully people for liking different things was the point

[timid cloud]

OKAY, I’m logging out.

[oak sky]

It just works

[timid cloud]

I gotta hear more of this later….

[subtle tundra]

the blessed s3 cos drop

[gusty mirage]

necrolord on guardian

L

[spice spire]

Play NF one last time buddy

[subtle tundra]

3 runs were for a friend

[timid cloud]

I will, for you. Promise it’ll get R1

[balmy condor]

Oh are we talking about verycold fok single target?

[spice spire]

Sub in sofo L

[gusty mirage]

cydone should love him

the man played night fae sin in keys in s2 and s3

[spice spire]

Oh fuck

I forgot he did that before buffed stuff

[spice spire]

Yes man

That’s how you know it’s a banger day

[gusty mirage]

????

[oak sky]

Indeed

[royal lantern]

even if they like balance druid?

[gusty mirage]

"Sub in sofo L"

[subtle tundra]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-shrouded-hero-title-going-out-players-who-abused-legacy-quest-buff-dqed-329942?webhook

AHAHAHHAHA

[gusty mirage]

LMFAO

[spice spire]

Notice the operative word being people

[oak sky]

Cydone didnt even believe it was real

[balmy condor]

Never underestimate the power of a chiller

[copper hazel]

what did the legacy quest even do

[oak sky]

Dn

[spice spire]

🤨 you’re not helping the case mister oxi

[gusty mirage]

bro

you legit played necro sin in SoD

shut up

your opinion is irrelevant

[spice spire]

Damn bro that’s crazy

🤨

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/bean-dance-crazy-aye-dats-fr-crazy-hoe-now-show-me-one-person-who-asked-gif-16195074

[spice spire]

That’s the yoke buddy but ily you lil zany goon

[gusty mirage]

you and seli copiumed the fuck out of necro in SoD

[oak sky]

:oooobang:

[spice spire]

I didn’t say it was better

[gusty mirage]

"when you spread for veil you dump bonespikes"

[oak sky]

Me pressing fok when out of range

[spice spire]

Nah, it legit just didn’t matter

First three bosses on mythic were a meme

[gusty mirage]

why press fok when you can bone spike

[violet jackal]

i'm confused how sharing a quest leads to .1% M+ score

[spice spire]

Amen

[gusty mirage]

the quest gave you a buff

[echo geyser]

wait

[violet jackal]

what was the quest what was the buff?

[echo geyser]

is it the stamina / stat buff

[gusty mirage]

yes

[echo geyser]

LMFAO

[gusty mirage]

dunno tbh, just heard rumblings

[echo geyser]

this is the funniest thing ive ever heard

[spice spire]

I was about to ask if you were affected mister ramfam

Reaction says no

[echo geyser]

no, but i would do it probabaly if found out earlier, its literally for like grimrail etc

hm actually it was stamina its unrelated

[spice spire]

If anything taught me the importance of voting it was our decision to put grimrail as a key this season

[oak sky]

Kekw

Love trains 🙂

[subtle kiln]

2020 didn’t teach you anything about the importance of voting?

[spice spire]

A. Being facetious, obviously.
B. I was 8

[subtle kiln]

C. i fat fingered a digit.

[tacit pebble]

get zenkiki'd

[spice spire]

Ahhhhhh

That’s fair

[subtle kiln]

remember. old blind man

[spice spire]

Same homie

[subtle kiln]

I did good today. worked with a guy from England. his kiddo is 15 and Type1. let him know of a better doctor than they’re seeing now

[spice spire]

That is a good, we love to hear it

[subtle tundra]

😭

I don't know what that means

🛐

[tacit oar]

hello

[tropic ocean]

its like +10-20k hp tho

[spice spire]

He recommended a better doctor for a kid that needed help, that’s the long short

And greetings

[echo geyser]

no i think the stamina is not from that quest, that one should be all stat or main stat

[tropic ocean]

ye 5% mainstat

stamina is pvp consumable

10% flat

[tacit oar]

Have you tested evoker you filthy assassins

[gusty mirage]

oh wonderful

[spice spire]

No man

[gusty mirage]

I knew something was odd when chat's flow changed

[tacit oar]

Then don't it's boring

[gusty mirage]

I disagree

[tacit oar]

[subtle kiln]

evoker kinda fun at 70

[gusty mirage]

I leveled one to try to jump on the broken loot table train

I enjoyed it at 60

[tacit oar]

The heal spec is cool. But the dps spec is feeling empty

[gusty mirage]

nothing I'd main, but it's cool

[hearty junco]

is there any assa rotaion guides out? for DF that is

[subtle kiln]

full send andy

did i do it right @spice spire ?

[spice spire]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[tacit oar]

That's prepatch ones

He want guides for DF

[gusty mirage]

nothing's finalized for DF

we could see a nerf tomorrow for all we know

and it changes talents we take

[tacit oar]

Yeah that why he was asking if this was out yet

The answer is no then

[tacit oar]

Like idk... Exsang ?

[gusty mirage]

no exsang's not going anywhere

unfortunately

[tacit oar]

Maybe they rework

If everyone complains

[subtle kiln]

@hearty junco opener then just keep sending cd is the basics.

[spice spire]

Then there’s the answer

[hearty junco]

ty, learned some stuff, but is there a DF opener or have one yet not been established?

[spice spire]

Everything could change tomorrow

You’ll know close to launch. Remember you have 2 weeks from launch to raid to figure out your ideal opener

[subtle kiln]

time will definitely change tomorrow

but I linked the basics of the opener for ST for you

[gusty mirage]

also APLs are still being worked on and refined

[hearty junco]

might aswell learn 1 opener, havent played assa since BFA, i have double the amount of buttons now

[spice spire]

It’s good to get practice, but guides aren’t due yet. There’s some stuff in here you can practice for now - but if Exsang gets nuked tomorrow, it changed

[tacit oar]

they will just remove Assa on launch and create a new spec

[spice spire]

No man

[hearty junco]

hopefully

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

yellow name comes into my house, disrespects my family

[subtle kiln]

no man. it’s called outlaw. sub already dead. remover daggers from loot table.

[spice spire]

[subtle kiln]

[tacit oar]

Welcome to the new rogue spec, poisonous

[subtle kiln]

[hearty junco]

i honestly havent reflected on the color, im pretty sure i was red at one point

[gusty mirage]

jokes on you, poisons do no damage

[subtle kiln]

melee attacks ftw

[gusty mirage]

kingsbane hard carrying the color green in our details breakdown

[tacit oar]

Poison is my favorite thing about rogues

[gusty mirage]

[tacit oar]

Already bragged about double dipping daggers yesterday

[gusty mirage]

I remember

now I want chicken nuggets again

[tacit oar]

I love POISONS

[subtle kiln]

pepperidge farm remembers.

[tacit oar]

We should have 20 differents poisons

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-family-guy-pepperidge-farm-remember-gif-12133921

[tacit oar]

Super situational each

[balmy condor]

Just wait till you get tier and decent gear bud

[subtle kiln]

i just want some red ink in my veins.

[gusty mirage]

we should have to brew our own poisons again, and keep them in our bags

[tacit oar]

Or like a mini game where you create your own poison and choose herbs and stuff

[gusty mirage]

also blinding powder for blind, and vanishing powder for vanish

[tacit oar]

And the effect depend on what you used in the brew

[gusty mirage]

my dude, we were promised something similar for crimson vial in shadowlands

and we saw how well that worked out

[tacit oar]

They just gave it to kyrian phial

[gusty mirage]

oh so I get to wait for the catalyst to open again to experience poison damage?

sick

[wary ice]

Do people like amp poison?

[tacit oar]

Yes

[balmy condor]

Yes

[gusty mirage]

amp poison's neat

[tacit oar]

I like big numbers

[balmy condor]

Wrong spec

[gusty mirage]

class*

[wary ice]

[balmy condor]

Sub has big numbers

Kinda

[tacit oar]

Came from unholy so envenom got big numbers for me

[gusty mirage]

I thought sub was dead in the water

every sub rogue is crying enough tears to replenish oceans

[balmy condor]

Our big numbers are hidden behind 35 seconds of dots

[gusty mirage]

only number I'm interested in, is your cell phone number so I can send you feet pics

I mean wait what

[hearty junco]

why rup > ER > rup?

[balmy condor]

You have my phone number

[spice spire]

[balmy condor]

[gusty mirage]

true

[tacit oar]

Having a lot of numbers is pretty neat if you use the old display from vanilla where numbers stacks and flood the screen

[spice spire]

Brother that was out of pocket

[gusty mirage]

may I introduce you to a wonderful game that'll fill every desire to see big numbers?

Have you heard of my lord and savior MapleStory? 🍁

[tacit oar]

Poe ?

Ah got it wrong

[spice spire]

Logic is essentially max pandemic for the Exsang

[gusty mirage]

maple story big numbers

even ramfam is gaming it out

[tacit oar]

Diablo had pretty big numbers too

So big they just stop displaying

Because it means no freaking sense

[strange python]

no gona lie, I'm so path illiterate but big on books I was over here like "what does edgar allen poe have to do with rogues?"

[gusty mirage]

our legion class mounts were ravens

[tacit oar]

He would have played undead rogue for sure

[spice spire]

Every time I speak to oxi I have a tell tale heart

[tacit oar]

Or shadow priest

But undead for sure

[strange python]

maybe spriest back when we used the whole floaty shadow orbs with a glyph that made them a raven

[tacit oar]

Oh yuss

[balmy condor]

Maplestory yes man

[strange python]

I miss the whole glyph cosmetics thing tbh, wonder if it's ever in the pipline to create more, or to give us spec totems like a poison vials for sin

[gusty mirage]

huge numbers

EVERYWHERE

[hearty junco]

but that 2nd rupture will only be like 1 cp?

[tacit oar]

Is there Assa rogue on maple story

[spice spire]

Read ER again

[strange python]

I've always wanted to play MStory properly before - but these days it' feels like getting into eve. starting now? bruh you're so far behind just give up on arrival

[tacit oar]

I'd try if df wasn't in like 2 weeks

[oak sky]

Nevermore

[gusty mirage]

the reboot servers kinda fixed that

[tacit oar]

Class mounts were dope

[gusty mirage]

also removed most of the pay 2 win shit, leaving the QoL stuff like pets to pick up your loot

I wasn't a believer

[strange python]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[gusty mirage]

but I got my monke

and I'm happy

also I hate the class I picked

but

[strange python]

class picking, always the worst part

ngl I played hunter till legion

[tacit oar]

There is no sub classes

[strange python]

then they took my traps, and I was like "yo, I fucking hate this... who can still do cheeky shit? rogues? awesome"

[tacit oar]

Everything is cool for someone atleast

[hearty junco]

are you saying i need to snipe rupture on ER charged CP?

[spice spire]

Yes

[tacit oar]

Is this is a crime to play outlaw on mythic plus environment

[spice spire]

Punishable by death

Unlucky

(Of course not)

[tacit oar]

because I kinda struggle with aoe on assa

Sadge kill me then

[wary ice]

isnt rup-er-rup garunteed to be on a charged cp?

[tacit oar]

I find like overwhelming to check rupture and garrote on more than 3 targets

[spice spire]

Should be yeah @wary ice

[tacit oar]

You find yourself only applying dots

Forever

[spice spire]

Well yeah

That’s aoe

[tacit oar]

Outlaw can just press blade dance and go pew

[hearty junco]

i really dont see how it is

[wary ice]

Resounding clarity makes it charge 4 in total

[hearty junco]

oh

im stupid

[wary ice]

and ER does 2 (or 3 w/SF) cp

[hearty junco]

i need that last point i ER upgrade

[wary ice]

Or actually isnt there an RNG where you Do/Dont get your SF crit and the 3rd or 2nd respectively cp isnt charged and u feel like a loser?

[true pelican]

it's always 2nd to 5th cps

[wary ice]

i dont know why i thought it could be 6th as well

[versed rapids]

That is my plan. Outlaw for m+ and sin for raiding

[gusty mirage]

my friend, I feel like a loser regardless of SF crits

[wary ice]

you're a winner in my book oxi

[gusty mirage]

[hollow river]

you are a... safe mfer

[spice spire]

Yes man

Safe but not sane

[uncut echo]

how do I get the cute whispyr emotes

[strange python]

probably gota join his maplestory community

[uncut echo]

Awww, how do I do that?

[oak sky]

sub to his twitch

to get the emotes

[gusty mirage]

join his discord

4head

[uncut echo]

where at?

We did it!

[spice spire]

[chilly viper]

Do you guys think Assa will be better in st ?

[spice spire]

As of now yes

[viscid spear]

gib medicine for flu

[spice spire]

[cedar star]

Sin AoE being viable again is just

[candid geyser]

People need to calm down. Sin will get hit with 30% aura nerf mythic week.

[spice spire]

[drifting cloud]

its true (my uncle works at blizzard)

[spice spire]

[candid geyser]

Can't have be #1. Not allowed. But to fully have proper impact... the nerf will be delayed until the last possible moment.

[inner temple]

its true, his aunty told me

[ashen scroll]

For exsang, does it speed up the dots for the rest of the duration of the dots?

[drifting cloud]

yes

[ashen scroll]

pog ty

[drifting cloud]

you wait for them to fall off and reapply, or well last second works aswell

[somber fractal]

so do we still just send vanish/dm/exsang on cooldown without syncing?

[oak sky]

yeah

vanish lines up with dm tho because you use it right before

ig with dusk in prepatch 2nd would line up

[somber fractal]

you use vanish before dm in the opener?

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

you can yeah

[somber fractal]

that feels weird, and i assume it's still double rupture before exsang in the opener as well

it's all so degenerate

[candid geyser]

You know I'm right.

[vernal adder]

Are you

[spice spire]

No

[plain cipher]

When I use mutilate or something that gives combo points all them fill up then it goes back to like 2 or 3. Is this a bug or maybe a WA or addon causing this? Its really quick but messing me up

[spice spire]

Sounds like a weak aura issue

Are you using base UI or a weak aura profile for combo points

[plain cipher]

it is up on my cahracter portrait

regular ui, bunch moved around. It is probably a WA