assassination

[vestal wren]

outlaw in a sense has it the worse as it has the best 2 stats further appart from the other 2

if you look at the haste line for sin, it is also quite "wiggly"

[silk linden]

📈

[bold drum]

i wonder what causes it to be wiggly seeing as 10% haste should be 1 energy per second iirc

[vestal wren]

it does not wiggle a lot

it is probably because the value it lands on is close to either the gain of additional ticks or before that

so it is higher/lower depending

[bold drum]

yeah probably

bc you have basically nothing happening around this point

and then sth like this a bit further up

[vestal wren]

you could potentially do more steps

and then average out each point

so that you got 4-8 values for each point instead of 1

that would likely make it more linear

[bold drum]

also is there a way to make the stat delta bigger?

bc that delta seems a bit off considering df stats

[subtle tundra]

once again, outlaw has the advantage for m+

delete outlaw

[steel ridge]

because it stacks vers?

[subtle tundra]

yes

[steel ridge]

[night delta]

Don't partial ticks prevent that ?

[near valley]

outlaw best rogue confirmed?

[royal lantern]

lets agree to disagree

🙂

[little light]

any outlaw haters

raise your hand

[obsidian parrot]

kinda

[vestal wren]

Should, but there is also dps range and varience in the Sim. The graph was run with lower precision (raidbots standard) to be reasonable fast

[royal lantern]

does "i actually like outlaw, but HATE the df gameplay style" count?

[near valley]

i hate the pre-patch outlaw

[little light]

I just played outlaw almost whole SL I cant take it anymore

not sure DF outlaw is a dif playstyle

[near valley]

wel dreadblades changes it a bit

[royal lantern]

eh, i liked the bfa/sl outlaw, but this OMG REDUCE CD REDUCE CD REDUCE CD DREADBLADES DREADBLADES 7HOUR SND DREADBLADES UP AGAIN gameplay just feels weird

litearlly no resources anymore

[little light]

dreadblades is kinda like if you had the luckiest blunderbuss procs ever xd

[near valley]

dreadblades is stupid fun

[royal lantern]

just constant spam

[near valley]

but the apm gets a bit outta hand for me sometimes

[little light]

spam + rng its for me the worst wow gameplay

when it comes to rotations etc

there is "fun spam" tho maybe? xd

[near valley]

its fun spam when u see urself up on those dps charts

but i wna learn Ass so i can learn something that is more slower paced

plus u guys got cools buttons like exsanguinate

[faint harness]

Oh no

[faint harness]

And when has outlaw done that in the last 4 years

[little light]

exsanguinate bait, run

[near valley]

i'll have u know i was doing pretty good dps in S4

obviously that's anecdotal but i am the main character here so it's alright

[faint harness]

Sure, but any spec can top the meters depending on guild

[near valley]

yeah ofc

[thorn crater]

Uhm

[near valley]

wasn't really referring to outlaw as a whole

[thorn crater]

Wild yellow names appeared after the recent buffs huh

[near valley]

more when i was playing

[thorn crater]

Jk jk

[near valley]

if i see myself on the top of my details! it satisfies that dopamine addiction my brain craves

[thorn crater]

No I get it

Which is why I’m not rly joking

No but for real so far it’s prolly a split between 90% of the content that is aoe

And that 10% sin will be better due to st

Cause if you think sin aoe is chill … brother….

[little light]

sin aoe is like if your house was on fire on 20 dif places and you have to apply a garrote and rupture to every fire to put them out

[near valley]

[little light]

not the best analogy maybe haha but that came to mind

[near valley]

vivid picture

just imagining someone trying to stab fire

[little light]

dps that fire good

[near valley]

as long as it plays fun though i'm not too fussed

[subtle tundra]

Is assa good yet?

[royal lantern]

i mean, we gonna fight elementals in df

that includes stabbing fire

[steel ridge]

feral is good, yes.

[subtle tundra]

🤓

U

[steel ridge]

my feral dinged 60 yesterday lmao

[uncut echo]

Cringe

[steel ridge]

but it has been around for like 6 month

[near valley]

trueeeee

[steel ridge]

was a long journey

[near valley]

feral? more like in peril amirite?

[steel ridge]

feral used to be a budget rogue

rn its a somewhat better assassination rogue

[uncut echo]

Now we're diet rogue

[steel ridge]

back in wotlk and early cataclysm i was maining feral

nobody mained feral back then, i think we had a total of 4 on the realm 😄

[little light]

my analogy was actually 5head

maining feral is like signing up for getting your heart broken eventually

you know its gonna happen, its just a matter of when

[steel ridge]

i am just preparing an alt for some alt keys with the bois

[little light]

fair 🙂

[steel ridge]

not gonna raid with it or do anything other than the occasional key

its super easy to get into it tho coming from rogue

[little light]

tbf ive been having druid thoughts too lately

[steel ridge]

feral is ridiculously easy for a seasoned rogue main

you just go like "yep, i have heard that one before"

[little light]

xd apply bleed wait for energy yeps

[empty ravine]

Theres a good reason why feral mains should be content with being able to dps but not be able to compete with rogues

and thats cause you can play all three roles so wtf you expect

[blazing pumice]

that mentality is the reason wow sucked for ages

[empty ravine]

Uh no

If you can play all 3 roles and rogues can't and are able to better than the class that can only be one role, why would anyone play that class with the one role

[royal lantern]

hey, wanna know something

maybe

[blazing pumice]

yes, the notion that a spec should be penalised because the class can multirole made so many specs terrible

[royal lantern]

dont make specs bad

and instead, try to make all good

🙂

[blazing pumice]

you say that ETlol, but people still play rogue, hunter, warlock, mage

[royal lantern]

"feral should be worse then rogue" is stupid, cus no spec should be bad

[willow rapids]

Except dor warloc

For

[empty ravine]

I aint saying to make it bad im saying that if you freaking are a jack of all trades, you inherintely are also a master of none

[blazing pumice]

no

[brisk garnet]

If anything it's the opposite lol, rogue having a weak spec is less problematic since swapping is an option. Full monkey take.

[blazing pumice]

yes

[green harbor]

feral has been bad forever, it's insane how many people want it nerfed when it's finally good

[blazing pumice]

you are hedging your bets on your single spec being meta

[dense cedar]

i'd say feral's melee throughput being slightly lower due to being able to become somewhat sufficiently ranged when required is a better way to judge it then "can play tank also"

[blazing pumice]

at any given time

[empty ravine]

Sounds like someone just wants an ez mode the game but okay

[blazing pumice]

whereas rogue can switch between three

[dense cedar]

Feral should be top dps anyway

they have claws n stuff, quite scary

[blazing pumice]

that's why I stopped playing shadow, there were periods where it was borderline unplayable

eg. uldir in bfa

[empty ravine]

Your right, what was i thinking? Ferals deserve it my bad

[cobalt hemlock]

people want any class nerfed unless its their main

[empty ravine]

Blizzards way of balance is just "make x more powerful to balance everything"

[royal lantern]

boomkin mains in disguise

[empty ravine]

and boomkins topping dmg actually makes sense from a game perspective

[royal lantern]

[brisk garnet]

That's how balancing works yes, you make something relatively stronger till strength is at a similar level.

[empty ravine]

Although boomkins being more tanky like in the past made zero sense

And my final point, rogues having stealth is suppose to be what set them apart, giving ferals stealth was suppose to be all druids needed to be rogue like but not like be better than rogues in every way

And lets just ignore the past issue of ne druids being able to outsealth horde rogues

And also human rogues having.... Perception.... blizz was great at making sense

[subtle kiln]

@civic palm one of your boys is possibly lost how do we get back to classic?

[empty ravine]

which would have been easily been balanced if they made perception make you pop out of stealth at the very least, but i dont want to nitpick

[uncut echo]

These are the most cooked takes ever

Just cuz I can tank, and heal

Means ai should be bad

[subtle kiln]

nah. read their profile. even better takes there

[uncut echo]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HOLY FUCK LMAO

Incel energy

[empty ravine]

Gigacel

[subtle kiln]

you sir are in a catboi discord

[uncut echo]

Sugmacel

[empty ravine]

I dun get it

[midnight mist]

what did I just read

[civic palm]

[royal lantern]

ye, i do 20% less dmg, BUT i could go tank next pull!!!!

[uncut echo]

The most cursed shit ever

Absolute boomer mentality

[empty ravine]

How dare you

[empty ravine]

No. Jpg

[royal lantern]

cat ears are mandatory

or fox ears, in my case

[uncut echo]

They are no longer asking

[empty ravine]

But im allergic to furries

[uncut echo]

You're also allergic to women

[empty ravine]

😮

How dare you

[uncut echo]

I can't stop sneezing

[empty ravine]

Ill have you know.... rant rant rant

[uncut echo]

Fr tho memes aside

Why do you feel being able to tank or heal justifies them being inferior

[empty ravine]

GOOD i hope you dont close your eyes next time you sneeze

And injure yourself

[midnight mist]

[empty ravine]

Once again being a jack of all trades usually also means master of none

[subtle kiln]

you should look up warlock

[royal lantern]

.....why

[uncut echo]

That has to do with player skill

[midnight mist]

Every time I come to the sin channel I read the most insane shits

[empty ravine]

Is it that hard to like get the reason?

[uncut echo]

Not class design

[royal lantern]

fr mate

[uncut echo]

If a class is inherently designed shit, why the fuck would anyone play it

[subtle kiln]

i want a 20 vag paladin raid

[brisk garnet]

Alphamale keyboard warrior is my favourite class

[empty ravine]

Unfortunatly wow isnt a game of skill

[cobalt hemlock]

lmjao

[uncut echo]

Link your logs

[cobalt hemlock]

true

[royal lantern]

...huh?

[uncut echo]

We'll judge that

[empty ravine]

I havent played in months but i swing by chat cause exp soon

[uncut echo]

You should swing outta here

Back to raging at women in league

[cobalt hemlock]

last time you played then

[empty ravine]

Thx for the advice, but ill stay

[royal lantern]

you could still show us your expirience then

like

[uncut echo]

Wow isnt a game of skill

[royal lantern]

wow is by far the hardest multiplayer PvE game

[uncut echo]

Says classes should suck

[uncut echo]

Big agree

[royal lantern]

if you actually do Mythic raiding or push high keys

[empty ravine]

Uhh last time was at least a few months ago, like i tried to raid the jailer zone thing

[uncut echo]

Link logs

What's your character name

[empty ravine]

I would but i really dont care enough to find them

[uncut echo]

And realm, we'll find them for you

[empty ravine]

Etlol in uhh wat was the fucking server

[cobalt hemlock]

coward

[uncut echo]

Dont insult them

[empty ravine]

I want to say alleria but thats not right

[delicate bone]

I better see all 100 parses

[subtle kiln]

vagdestroyerisil

[uncut echo]

U rite

[empty ravine]

I prefer cheekbusterchad

[uncut echo]

Nah fr man, if wow doesnt take skill

You must be at the top tier of raiding

Lets see the logs

[empty ravine]

It doesnt require nearly as much skill as the top end players want to claim

Thats all i mean

[cobalt hemlock]

dont give the guy the attention he so much desires

[pure moth]

what guild are you in?

[little light]

we entering the "its a burden to be this good at the game" terroritory

[delicate bone]

Better be a top player, making that claim

[empty ravine]

Shit the guild im in doesnt really say much

[uncut echo]

Ok so your editing your original argument and still not validating your claim

[little light]

helmet on

[subtle kiln]

I don’t have time for raiding. Just trust.

[pure moth]

no but it will confirm if people find the right person

[empty ravine]

Just know that i have only played rogue and i played wow since 2004

Thats my justificatioin

[uncut echo]

I've played wow since 2005 and I'm shit

But infinitely better than you

[subtle kiln]

and you’re stuck in 2007

[empty ravine]

Cant argue with that logic

[cobalt hemlock]

people play league for years and are stuck in bronze lmao doesnt mean anything

[empty ravine]

Grats on yer toons

Honestly i was tried to soloq my way to gold in lol

[uncut echo]

G

ld

[empty ravine]

And i for one think i know support better than most peeps

[subtle kiln]

support dn?

[uncut echo]

That's a vagina wielder's role

[empty ravine]

Yes i only got to gold, back in 2014 but playing only supp

And soloq

[royal lantern]

my friend started the game during tomb of sageras in legion, and was wr 340 in antorus allready as a healer

playing the game for a long time means something btw

[empty ravine]

Imo means something

[uncut echo]

Yet your discord, created in 2016

Has your league acct linked

[empty ravine]

I think it was 2014

Shyt been a while

[fallen arch]

[empty ravine]

Think it was like season.... 4 5 or 6?

[uncut echo]

Gn gamer, your case has more holes than premium swiss

[empty ravine]

Okay guess you saying that means that is the case

[little light]

you mean having more holes makes you better? I thought the profile said otherwise

kekw

[uncut echo]

F A X

[empty ravine]

Uhh... Okay o. O

Also

I joined discord lat

You know why?

Cause before discord it was skype and why would i switch if i was fine with what i was using

Eventually had to switch tho obv

[brisk garnet]

Because real men use ventrilo

[uncut echo]

Discord is a woman's app

[empty ravine]

I miss my old vent and ts servers :ll

Was much more like social

Your right... Discord... Athena had an apple of discord... It all makes sense

[civic palm]

Why isn't this channel whipped harder...

[little light]

achtually Eris trew the apple?

[uncut echo]

Because he spent 300 messages skirting around their outrageous claims of wow takes no skill and multispec classes should suck

[empty ravine]

although we never did ask athena if she identified as a female

[little light]

ok go on son we listening

[uncut echo]

[empty ravine]

NO >:c

Now i dont want to

[uncut echo]

You were like, so close to blowing your top on trans people

[empty ravine]

You caught me

Goddamit

[civic palm]

Might be time for a rules rewrite.

[empty ravine]

Foiled again

[little light]

yeah my bad i should've just wait 2 more chat lines

xD

[empty ravine]

Yea your right, how dare you

[uncut echo]

I mewn Mizerok you can clearly see we tried to get them to validate their claims, but this shit keeps happening

[empty ravine]

I mean its all just opinions in the end how much does it actually matter

[little light]

true but ideology is not an opinion

is a stance

[uncut echo]

I feel like saying wow takes no skill, and then refusing to show ANY evidence of why you feel justified in thst shit take is not quite an opinion

[civic palm]

I'm not really interested in anything that anyone has to say in here, I'm just curious that it's so wildly off topic that it serves no purpose.

[uncut echo]

That's super coconuts

[little light]

true no idea how we got here anyway

[uncut echo]

It's about 200 lines up

[little light]

it was fun until it wasnt kekw

[empty ravine]

You know, this would be a lot more constructive if you were to take your own bias into account

[uncut echo]

[little light]

true I play sin im a deeply flawed individual

[empty ravine]

I feel your pai

But naruto taught me pain is legit so

[cobalt hemlock]

dont tell me you are a weeb

[empty ravine]

Wait i assumed everyone here was a web?

[cobalt hemlock]

fuck no wtf

[empty ravine]

I guess ill just let myself out

[little light]

probably?

[hardy dagger]

Jfc no

[little light]

no kink shaming xD

[empty ravine]

How is weeb a kink

Wtf

[little light]

its a jokeee

[empty ravine]

I thik you are trying to say being a weeb means you like hentai wich is a kink

So ill let it slide but tbh weeb means your life is one big cringe that should be discouraged

[little light]

I only like trans hentai

[empty ravine]

Thats nice

I mean i aint a fan of futa personally

But i know ppl that are so i dumn judge

And before the mods get here to tell us that we shouldnt be discussing this here.... futa is so annoying, i think i find myself a good hentai and bam random peeno

[royal lantern]

can confirm, playing sin, left handed AND red hair, the flaws just keep coming

[hardy dagger]

[cobalt hemlock]

werent you a second ago talking about that fact you are weeb doesnt mean you like hentai?

[empty ravine]

Can i not say that but not be a weeb and like hentai?

I mean sure it might be out of the ordinary but i dont see why you gotta assume

[cobalt hemlock]

you said you watched naruto how is that not weeb

[little light]

we might be driving into bait territory now

[empty ravine]

With that logic that means all dbz fans are weebs

[little light]

just saying xd

[cobalt hemlock]

yes they are

[empty ravine]

Which also means that all avatar fans are also weebs

[dire lake]

Buckle up!

[merry sentinel]

Going into more depth about your hentai preferences than about why you think wow is an easy game at the top level

[hallow sonnet]

Perhaps we chill a bit with the baiting and rather hostile tone for now guys

[empty ravine]

And with transitive proof thatd mean all corry in the house fans are weebs

[hallow sonnet]

You can have the same discussion with the same gains without using labels and being combative

[empty ravine]

Tbh i wasnt trying to be combative, but remember how i said you should realize your own bias?

[little light]

dont worry rosvall I think my license dosnt allow me to enter bait city

so im just gonna park here

xD

[empty ravine]

But bait city has so many attractions

Just dont go to jail bait city, thatd be a mistake

[cobalt hemlock]

well be carefull while browing images of your 1000000 years old girls then

[twilit hollow]

Wtf is this convo

[bold drum]

[hallow sonnet]

Yeah, let's please move this away from this channel. After reading back, it's too edgy to be mid round entertainment

[bold drum]

Assa channel

[night delta]

Too sinful for sin

[cobalt hemlock]

alright ill stop giving him attention just bored

[little light]

exactly

[hallow sonnet]

Thanks!

[thorn crater]

DAILY REMINDER that sub is the fat ugly weird distant cousin of rogues

[little light]

he got us on the first half but now we figured the strategy

[thorn crater]

now proven

[little light]

maybe

[cobalt hemlock]

we hate outlaw in this channel

[night delta]

you mean outlaw right ?

[thorn crater]

no

outlaw are the frat guys

pumping beer

[little light]

what if you could merge outlaw and sub

[cobalt hemlock]

not really i knew what was happneing just didnt care

[night delta]

Sub at least have a redeeming qualities : they can drop and then trade daggers to sin players

[subtle tundra]

youre right

sub is fine

outlaw is the problem

[little light]

I mean outlaw the name implies, it shouldnt be legal

[uncut echo]

2 spec dream

[subtle tundra]

make outlaw have to invest into their aoe

then we fine

[uncut echo]

Best Varas take

[night delta]

still, outlaw bring balance

2 specs and then we'd enter dh territory

[subtle tundra]

imbalance*

[little light]

a star wars reference somewhere

[cobalt hemlock]

you mean make them spend one point on blade flurry?

[uncut echo]

The entire idea with these trees was to give in some areas to gain in others

Outlaw gains giga aoe with 2 points

[near valley]

outlaw is what people think of when they hear rogue

Assassination and Sub what?

[raven knoll]

Blizzard should make pirate class and move outlaw there

[night delta]

oh heck no

[near valley]

nothing that's what

[night delta]

I refuse to have some drunk pirate cosplayer be the poster boy for my class

[near valley]

change all classes to pirates

[cobalt hemlock]

fuck that

[little light]

silly, nobody hears about rogues cause we stealth

wait that wasnt the message

[night delta]

Orc rogues know to wear purple transmog

[near valley]

them tauren hooves do be silent

and violent...

[cobalt hemlock]

tbh vancleef is really cool just valeera or spymaster shaw are way cooler

[little light]

tauren rogue clap

[night delta]

vancleef also died 15+ years ago

[near valley]

Garona Halforcen is where it's at

[cobalt hemlock]

no cool pirates in game

[near valley]

Outlaw crying sounds

[little light]

wdym last boss in Freehold cool pirate ?

Ima say yes

[night delta]

I would love a recurring pirate minor villain though

too bad the bloodsail were neutered with Legion

[cobalt hemlock]

the pirate murloc is cooler than him kek

[near valley]

become the change u want in the world

embrace piracy

https://tenor.com/view/piracy-its-a-crime-you-wouldnt-steal-a-car-you-wouldnt-steal-a-handbag-you-wouldnt-steal-a-mobile-phone-you-wouldnt-steal-a-dvd-gif-20041955

[little light]

freehold m+ soon

[little light]

Dee Bee Dee

[uncut echo]

FREE HOLD WHEN

[cobalt hemlock]

season 2 maybe

[near valley]

more like Reeeeeeeeee Hold

[raven knoll]

I dont think we will get any dungeon from BFA in DF m+ rotation

[cobalt hemlock]

one cool outlaw rogue would be flynn from bfa i liked that guy

[little light]

I think we will, cause shadowlands cured people from their hatred of bfa by being 3x worse

or maybe this just freehold hopium xd

[raven knoll]

They said something like that SL and BFA are too recent

Maybe in 10.3 😄

[little light]

xD

they gonna run out of old dungeons at some point right?

[cobalt hemlock]

waiting for legendary keystone of blackrock depths

3 hour timer

[little light]

Maraudon full run m+

[raven knoll]

Vanilla Wailing caverns

[night delta]

I was just about to say that

also, Full Dire Maul

[little light]

yikes

[raven knoll]

oof 😄

[little light]

tho dire maul is kinda fun

[near valley]

classic dungeons aint no joke

[cobalt hemlock]

furriously spamming ice bolt

[spice spire]

No man

[near valley]

maraudon fun time

in fact they should bring back hit rating as a season affix

[little light]

blackstone ring is bis so get to it

[night delta]

sinister strike > sinister strike > wait 2 seconds > sinister strike > wait 2 seconds > sinister strike > wait 2 seconds > Eviscerate

the best of times were had

[raven knoll]

And reforge NPC together with that and I'll take it 😄

[near valley]

now we're talking

[uncut echo]

You missed a doozie @spice spire

Gm :)

[cobalt hemlock]

i would like classic more if it didnt take you literaly weeks to level

[near valley]

that's the appeal of it

[cobalt hemlock]

not for me

[spice spire]

Yeah I woke up late this am

Sauce?

[uncut echo]

Uhhhh

Scroll up to something about druids should suck

Like 300+ messages

[spice spire]

Based

[raven knoll]

on what

[cobalt hemlock]

it was a real good one

[near valley]

that entire convo was a barrens chat moment

[uncut echo]

I tried

We found logs btw

[cobalt hemlock]

did we actually? Pog

[little light]

[cobalt hemlock]

if its 50 or more in hc at least ill be surprised

[spice spire]

Not based at all btw

Cringe conversation

Went to anime too 2/10

[near valley]

peak degeneracy

[uncut echo]

Ya it kinda sucked

[little light]

I fueled it a bit my apologies

[cobalt hemlock]

me too kek

[uncut echo]

I mean homie was turbo misogynist like. Publicly on profile

I got a hair heated

[little light]

it was bait

[spice spire]

Has to bed

[little light]

100%

[near valley]

master bait

[uncut echo]

It worked

[little light]

I know worked on me too until I figure it out

im not very smart sadge

[spice spire]

Aso @uncut echo barthilas logs I assume?

[uncut echo]

Ya

[cobalt hemlock]

well dont keep us waiting

[spice spire]

Oh no no no

[little light]

bring the logs or whatever is happening

[spice spire]

[uncut echo]

That's doxxing as fuck

[little light]

ok dont true

[uncut echo]

They're there

[little light]

xD

[uncut echo]

If you'd like to find them

[cobalt hemlock]

you already said his character name whats the difference between me looking them up a nd you showing it

just barrier or me caring / beeing lazy to do it

[uncut echo]

I'm not actively finding them for you

Needless to say they're an LFR chad

[near valley]

poggers

how many determination stacks?

[cobalt hemlock]

about as expected

all i need to know

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

For your sanity don’t read it

[subtle tundra]

tldr?

[near valley]

these kind of things never happen in subtlety channel

[spice spire]

Lfr GIGA chad comes in and trolls

[cobalt hemlock]

mysoginistic weeb is coping at beeing bad at wow

[little light]

plot points include feral and anime

make your own movie

[subtle tundra]

women arent real

[near valley]

never were

life's a simulation

[uncut echo]

Based Varas

[spice spire]

Not on the internet at least.
I’ve been living with Val for four years, and I’m still not convinced

[cobalt hemlock]

if only i could sim best build for life

[uncut echo]

I mean, I'm not a boy, I'm not a girl

[gusty mirage]

Oh it’s that dude

[uncut echo]

I'm an existential nightmare

[spice spire]

Yeah

[subtle tundra]

if they were real, in my soon to be 21 years of life one would've liked me

[near valley]

sims can't help with what u don't have

[little light]

they need to release those wow best dps charts for real life

wowhead

ez meta

[spice spire]

Ur just like me

[gusty mirage]

Can I ban him boss?

[dense cedar]

they should add a poison that gives enemies a small chance to fall over for 0.5 seconds

[uncut echo]

@gusty mirage pls don't be mad at me

[spice spire]

I feel like we should tbh

I’m not 100% sure tho

[uncut echo]

I wouldn't be mad if you did, but they didn't really do anything wronf

[spice spire]

I mean being misogynistic is not kosher

[cobalt hemlock]

noone would go it because it would be a dps loss KEK

[near valley]

it was worthy content tbf

[spice spire]

Which yeah, half the discord, sure.

[near valley]

got me engaged

[spice spire]

Yeah why do you think we might ban

[gusty mirage]

Misogyny and deriding the conversation to be 300+ messages about not assassination rogue or even wow is pretty wrong

[spice spire]

Coming from “when people think rogue they think about outlaw”

[gusty mirage]

[near valley]

should have put assassination at the ends of his sentences

[subtle tundra]

what the fac is an outlaw

in my headcannon the spec doesnt exist

[little light]

type sin and xd at the end of everything, noted sin xd

[gusty mirage]

The rogue spec blizzard keeps around for warriors and DHs to feel at home with

[subtle tundra]

ah for the adhd players

[spice spire]

So true bestie

[gusty mirage]

Cause that’s how that works

[uncut echo]

I mean tbf he got multiple people involved, myself being a main perpetrator

[spice spire]

Yeah but like, that’s kind of this chat’s MO.

[near valley]

he came in like a tornado

[uncut echo]

Valid. I was attempting (poorly) to get them to validate their claims

[spice spire]

A driving force of evil

Is

[near valley]

correction: like a fan of knives

now its sin talk

[uncut echo]

Then got swept up in the storm

[little light]

like indiscriminate carnage

[uncut echo]

ayo

Ur not wrong

Maybe IC IS POTENT

[spice spire]

@gusty mirage we were wrong

[little light]

like a shuriken tornado, wait no, wrong dont ban

[spice spire]

He was just rping indiscriminate carnage

Unreal

[near valley]

like Exsanguinate, he will be missed

[spice spire]

Dude is more GIGA chad than I thought

[uncut echo]

[little light]

he didnt get to use a finisher tho

kekw

[gusty mirage]

I hate it here

[near valley]

didn't need to

[uncut echo]

HAHAHAHA

[gusty mirage]

I’ll leave again you little bastard

[uncut echo]

Oxi we just became friends

[spice spire]

He might be missing lore homie

[uncut echo]

U cant go

[gusty mirage]

[dense cedar]

dps loss how?

[cobalt hemlock]

forget it

[dense cedar]

the fall forward

so backs exposed

[near valley]

would be a strange posion tbf

[dense cedar]

very powerful on sub

[near valley]

like what kind of poison knocks u forward for a small amount of time

[dense cedar]

its not a real suggestion but i wouldn't be against seeing it

well they wouldn't move at all

they'd just fall on the spot

[near valley]

so would say it would be...crippling?

[cobalt hemlock]

maybe you should go talk sub to the sub channel

if you actually wanna talk about your idea

[spice spire]

[dense cedar]

[spice spire]

What is happening

[cobalt hemlock]

maybe they will understand more

[dense cedar]

i think all rogues would benefit

[near valley]

make Exsanguinate the main combo point finisher

[dense cedar]

no one understand the beautfy of interrupting poison

smh

[near valley]

blizzard dev i know ur here

[gusty mirage]

The fruit of your labor

[uncut echo]

What labor

[gusty mirage]

Exactly

[uncut echo]

Homie still driving to work

[spice spire]

In what world is this my labor?

[cobalt hemlock]

upaid janitors Sadge

[spice spire]

Brother, I’ve been at work.

[gusty mirage]

Remember when I tried cracking down on this shit? And you joined in on the 1984 memeing?

[uncut echo]

Ur always drivinf in my heart

[gusty mirage]

This is the result

Enjoy

[near valley]

how was it?

[uncut echo]

Oxi I remember that

[spice spire]

Idk I’ve been here for 45 minutes; can’t round until 8:30

[uncut echo]

I'm so sorry

[gusty mirage]

Oh don’t be

[spice spire]

I literally 1984 my own shit

That’s not an argument

[near valley]

sadge

[uncut echo]

Sin while it's still legal, boys

[gusty mirage]

Now I can watch this shit hit peak degeneracy for the second time in 6 months and watch people’s questions get drowned out

[near valley]

u would think there was some kind of general or off-topic channel

[uncut echo]

Nah questions are still getting answered

[cobalt hemlock]

tbh i have b een actively looking at the chat and noone asked any questions

[near valley]

^

[gusty mirage]

Thanks guys

[uncut echo]

I mean who would

[gusty mirage]

Had no idea

[cobalt hemlock]

you are welcome 🙂

[thorn fjord]

here it comes

[near valley]

always here to make things easier for you

[spice spire]

Oxi grumpy today

[gusty mirage]

Oxi about to mute people for funsies today

[near valley]

i hear Doritos can fix al of lifes problems

[uncut echo]

He has a point tho guys, who tf would ask a question into all of this

[thorn fjord]

Do the CF's have mod for all spec discussion or only their respective spec?

[gusty mirage]

We can mute/delete in all channels

[spice spire]

All, we (or I) generally stick here. But if it was needed elsewhere you can

[near valley]

powerful entities

[spice spire]

No

[gusty mirage]

No actual banning/kicking though (except for recently, and it’s temporarily for extenuating circumstances)

[near valley]

i guess you could say that this channel has been going........rogue

[uncut echo]

The fuupersonator

[royal lantern]

what did i miss

[spice spire]

Freudian slip?

[gusty mirage]

Nothing useful, like every other day in this channel

[near valley]

was top quality content

[spice spire]

Nonsense, honestly, not worth going over.
Misogynistic lfr Andy trolled and talked anime and nonsense for like an hour

[cobalt hemlock]

till there is some wow content we need to make our own content

[spice spire]

You can do both

[uncut echo]

I mean off topuc is there

Btw

[spice spire]

Speed run leveling

[cobalt hemlock]

yeah

[spice spire]

Also evoker + prepatch event today

[raven knoll]

Tomorrow 😦

[cobalt hemlock]

crazy how rtwf people are making like 4 of every class they play

[spice spire]

EU moment

[near valley]

EU best

[spice spire]

Unlucky

[uncut echo]

Wild, I get to scalie after work

[near valley]

enjoy beta testing losers

[spice spire]

Not quite that bad, but yeah they have a lot to do upcoming

I do feel bad for tisu

[faint harness]

Don’t be so harsh on yourself quakers

[near valley]

i miss the old world first kill videos

with the dubstep and flashy montages

[spice spire]

I was driving to work man

[gusty mirage]

Dubstep?

[raven knoll]

shadowstep

thats what he means

[gusty mirage]

It was for sure obscure metal no one listened to

[spice spire]

Opulence kill video

[cobalt hemlock]

well that was because the races werent streamed would you rather have them not streamed?

[faint harness]

[gusty mirage]

Hi push

[bold drum]

thats what they used for pvp montages

[near valley]

oh yeah it was obscure metal music

[faint harness]

Hey taurus

[near valley]

just remembered the World first Opulence video

[faint harness]

Wildcard gaming

[cobalt hemlock]

saw that on max stream that thing was lit

[gusty mirage]

When did world first kills transition from shitty metal to shitty dubstep?

[near valley]

that video had no right to be so epic

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Legitimately though. It’s the fourth boss of the raid chill

[gusty mirage]

Opulence was pretty hard on mythic iirc

[near valley]

having 3 POVs that were the exact same

[gusty mirage]

[royal lantern]

can you NA plebs get the patch allready? i want gamebreaking stuff fixed before it releases tomorrow

[cobalt hemlock]

later today

[gusty mirage]

Jokes on you we’re all playing overwatch or league

[spice spire]

[cobalt hemlock]

gotta get your twitch drops later too if you care about that

[royal lantern]

cant play tomorrow anyway

cus my boss told me im 2days out with him

[spice spire]

I’m in full husband mode to gain good will for patch release homie

[royal lantern]

🙂

[spice spire]

Y’all playing games?

[gusty mirage]

I’m collecting mounts and grinding reps, and I’ve had more fun this past week than I have the entire expansion

[spice spire]

God bless

[royal lantern]

living the life

[cobalt hemlock]

chatting about bullshit in here > malding at league of legends

[royal lantern]

stop caring about world ranks

and just enjoying stuff

the best way to play wow

[near valley]

sounds like no one is winning in that situation

[spice spire]

Oxi doesn’t care about wr

[gusty mirage]

I was asked what alt I’m playing next tier

I responded with this:

[faint harness]

Until you wipe 500 times because of 1 player

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[near valley]

Peak WoW experience

even better if its a guildie

[cobalt hemlock]

first time mythic raiding cant wait 😄 unless it gonna be me

[near valley]

and u know u can't lose ur shit on him

[gusty mirage]

Oh Ozwild-Zuljin, how I don’t miss you

[royal lantern]

you forgot at wipe 300 somone asking "oh wait, we are supposed to do X?" (X is a normal mechanic)

[spice spire]

Spriest moment?

[faint harness]

Great

Times

Indeed

[raven knoll]

Theres no way someone actaully wiped 300 times on a single boss.

[gusty mirage]

In between him screaming in French and dropping hard Rs he managed to not die on our pain smith kill and grey parse

[near valley]

or that time when u seem so close to actually getting it down but someone decides to go full ape and throw it

[spice spire]

[faint harness]

Its the main reason why i prefer to play in a decent guild. Ppl will still fuck up, but at least its not the same guy everytime

[royal lantern]

a classic

[near valley]

then takes u 2 more hours till ur back

[spice spire]

I forgot oz was both of the issues

[royal lantern]

the only reason i want to be in a guild that is 500+

is because progress is less pain

lol

[gusty mirage]

Your guilds a lot better than decent my dude

[thorn fjord]

You would think that @royal lantern

[near valley]

the classic hard R malding

[thorn fjord]

We were top 500 and our prog was miserable

[royal lantern]

its better than a 1k-2k guild allright?

[spice spire]

Accidental HoF guild decent

[thorn fjord]

for Sanc and Sep

[royal lantern]

[faint harness]

I think thats a matter of perspective, but thanks oxi:))

[near valley]

ur guilds are progressing?

[royal lantern]

if my guild was alliance, i could have grabbed alliance Sanctum HoF

[gusty mirage]

It got confusing listening to the dude transition from quebecois french to heavy racism in English ngl

[cobalt hemlock]

well sepulcher mythic looked like an experience

[spice spire]

Did you all get HoF in Sep @faint harness (I could check but cba)

[gusty mirage]

Yes

[faint harness]

In sep?

[gusty mirage]

Sepulcher

[spice spire]

Sofo

[faint harness]

We got it in every tier this expansion actually

[thorn fjord]

Nice

[spice spire]

Oh good shit

[subtle tundra]

u bad

[spice spire]

2 day gaming

[near valley]

a word that defies all language barriers

[faint harness]

3

3.4

[subtle tundra]

sorry im just mad

[spice spire]

[cobalt hemlock]

just beeing top 100 is decent

lol

[near valley]

HoF is for losers

[royal lantern]

top 100 is SLIGHTLY above "decent" 🙂

[subtle tundra]

nah he bad

[near valley]

real chads get Ahead of the Curve then log off till next expansion

[gusty mirage]

Jokes on you I’m a loser regardless

[cobalt hemlock]

thats what im talking about or he just really humble

[royal lantern]

thats like league players going "oh, only challanger players are good, everything bellow that is pure trash"

[gusty mirage]

[spice spire]

Push is downplaying.
His guild is very good

[near valley]

sounds like what a iron player would say

[faint harness]

@subtle tundra why u mad? Anything you want to share with the group

[royal lantern]

im a unranked chad, not gonna waste my life by playing league rankeds

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[cobalt hemlock]

i like to look at all players to make me feel better like plat in lol is top 10%

[subtle tundra]

i have to study and i dont want to i just want to lay in bed

[near valley]

i get to gold 4, get my skin, the run it down the rest of the season in normals

[faint harness]

Do both

[near valley]

gotta keep things fresh after nearly a decade of play time

[royal lantern]

if you have 3-4 mythic kills each tier, you are allready in the top2% of the wow community btw

or something like that

[subtle tundra]

kinda hard to do mathematics in while laying in bed

[thorn fjord]

ew math

[near valley]

kill a mythic boss is already putting ut at like top 5%

[cobalt hemlock]

i never raided mythic hope its gonna be fun iun df

[near valley]

it is

till it isnt

[subtle tundra]

mythic raiding is a gateway for m+ for me

[near valley]

luckily doesn't seem to be any guild testing bosses in Vault

[subtle tundra]

so i can get gear

[cobalt hemlock]

i mean yeah i did prog some heroic bosses on first weeks cuz we arent the best

[royal lantern]

mythic raiding is 2 things: learn fast, have patience for the people that dont learn fast

[cobalt hemlock]

exact opposite for me

[spice spire]

It’s fun with the right mindset.
If it’s your first time, expect a slow prog and a lot of mistakes. But it’s a good feeling to overcome

[royal lantern]

^

[near valley]

not like doing painsmith and watching all the people on ur guild who used to be all smiles and happy, drown in sorrow and lose all life in their eyes

[royal lantern]

killing a prog endboss and getting that 20x CE flood in guildchat with some nerd screams in VC

is the best thing ever

[subtle tundra]

do you push high keys so you can mythic raid?

you only need to do your weeklies

[thorn fjord]

If they give us another stone legion type boss im going to rage

[cobalt hemlock]

only weekly

for gear

[near valley]

i'd take SLG again

fun fight

[royal lantern]

cease

[subtle tundra]

LOL

[thorn fjord]

You're crazy

[subtle tundra]

go away

ban

[royal lantern]

SLG almost ruined the tier

[subtle tundra]

him

[royal lantern]

[cobalt hemlock]

?

[subtle tundra]

@spice spire ban

ban this guy

[thorn fjord]

LOL

[cobalt hemlock]

whats wrong with that

i did heroic only

[near valley]

casual exsanguinate Enjoyer take

[royal lantern]

like, CN was great, and SLG alone turned it from 9/10 into a 6/10

[thorn fjord]

SLG was... how can i put this

[spice spire]

No man

[thorn fjord]

CANCER

[subtle tundra]

hc isnt really representative of what the fights really are

mythic was the worst fight of the expansion by far

and thats including like kt

[royal lantern]

KT

pre-nerf

[thorn fjord]

KT was a beautiful experience compared to SLG

[subtle tundra]

yes

[spice spire]

@subtle tundra 🙂

[royal lantern]

with 2000min WAIT FOR CDS

[near valley]

KT lmao

dumbest waste of a boss

[subtle tundra]

kt you atleast you didnt get bs and if you played it well you killed it
slg can go fuck itself

[spice spire]

SLG bug simulator was definitely up there on worstbfights

[cobalt hemlock]

i mean its kinda dumb where second to last gets killed so fast

[thorn fjord]

Painsmith pre pre nerfs sucked too

[royal lantern]

PUSH PUSH PUSH, WAIT WAIT WAIT, PUSH, STOP ONLY 0,9%!!! PUSH!!! OK WE PUSHED TO FAST; WIPE IT

[gusty mirage]

Idk personally I’d rather wait for CDs than have to bug a fight so it’s not dogshit

[royal lantern]

i loved it

[gusty mirage]

But yeah KT was dogshit

Actually an awful boss

[thorn fjord]

Yep

[near valley]

Alll the last 4 bosses of sanctum were actual dog

[thorn fjord]

naah Sylv was fun

[near valley]

though Fatescribe was somewhat aesthetically pleasing

[thorn fjord]

Sylv was a good fight

[royal lantern]

sylv would have been 10x better if the fight was just ~5min shorter

[near valley]

Sylv is fun if u don't die on p2

[gusty mirage]

Sylv didn’t need 9 rives

[royal lantern]

the only problem with sylvanas was simply that it went on for WAAAAY to long

[spice spire]

I DO NOT WANT TO STOP DAMAGE

[gusty mirage]

It was cool the first 10 times

[royal lantern]

i mean, yes

[near valley]

imagine dying p3 just to then wait 10 mins to get to that point again

fuck all of that

[thorn fjord]

we killed her at like 520 on Mythic LOL

def wasnt cool after the 20th

[gusty mirage]

The 300+ after was just misery

[royal lantern]

thank god you didnt need many p3 pulls

[gusty mirage]

Like we get it you’re angry and are hurling the scenery at us

[spice spire]

Watching oxi have people die to the intermission

[thorn fjord]

Especially when you got her to like 54%

[spice spire]

Killed me inside

[near valley]

cursed image

[royal lantern]

i think we only had 14p3 pulls?

[gusty mirage]

Same people every single time

[royal lantern]

70%of sylvanas progress was p1

[spice spire]

Yeah

It was

[gusty mirage]

The warrior was eating riven debris like it was a buffet

Insane

[spice spire]

Sad wasn’t even the word

[near valley]

p1 was pretty solid as a bdk

[spice spire]

Didn’t the warrior damage after?

[royal lantern]

we had a dh that always fell down in p2

DH

[near valley]

idk about all u dps losers

[spice spire]

After pretty much inting prog

[gusty mirage]

The strat was to no one else die so we could brez him after rives

Lol

[near valley]

lmao

[gusty mirage]

Idr how many sylv pulls we got it in

Feels like almost 400 idk

Maybe 300?

I’ve blocked that entire guild out of my brain

Just awful

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

lol

[near valley]

300 pulls is actually mentally tasking

[thorn fjord]

558 was our kill

[spice spire]

[thorn fjord]

lol

[near valley]

jeez

[spice spire]

That’s mental terrorism

[gusty mirage]

I also have a screenshot my friend took of me during painsmith prog

Let me find it

[thorn fjord]

compared to 218 for painsmith

[near valley]

SoD was were i found my hatred for venthyr boomkins

[thorn fjord]

We got jailer to 4% the day before S4 started 😦

we were only at 198 pulls

[gusty mirage]

@spice spire

[thorn fjord]

one more day and it would have died

[thorn fjord]

looks about right

[near valley]

such a happy camper

all that was reflected in those eyes was pain

[thorn fjord]

SLG took us 469 pulls LOL

[royal lantern]

it took you until SoD to hate boomkins?

[spice spire]

Put a Santa hat on that one homie

Holy fuck

[near valley]

i had the hatred in the back burner

SoD solidified it

[gusty mirage]

Just might

I feel like that was my face on anduin

The entire time

[thorn fjord]

Anduin didnt feel bad

[gusty mirage]

I was in for that fight and never felt more useless in my life

[near valley]

a lot of the bosses in SL gave me that face

[thorn fjord]

Had to play sub tho -_-

[spice spire]

Anduin had you malding the hardest this tier I felt

[gusty mirage]

Bro they forgot to knock me out of kingsmourne and I died

[thorn fjord]

lol

[near valley]

Anduin was pretty fun

[gusty mirage]

And they made it through p2 at like 1% higher than when I was alive

[near valley]

but again b4 u flame me

[gusty mirage]

I was 1% boss damage

LMAO

[near valley]

it's cause playing dk in that fight was sleeper

[spice spire]

Aight time for rounds glhf friends

[thorn fjord]

They let me play Shuriken tornado on anduin

[near valley]

u2

[thorn fjord]

Anduin took us 145 pulls

But this was post first nerf

[near valley]

parsing on lich king adds was

[gusty mirage]

Took us like 70 or 80 post first nerf

[cobalt hemlock]

how do you parse on that as a rogue

especially assa

[near valley]

u dont

i would guess

[burnt latch]

161 pulls cant remember if it was nerfed already

[royal lantern]

god, i wish i could say that about myself

[burnt latch]

when did they nerf

[near valley]

they nerfed it a bunch of times

[gusty mirage]

Hope your xymox cache is on axe when the army of the dead finishes casting

Lmao

[near valley]

lol

[royal lantern]

same way you always do, dont get hit by mechanics, have something for aoe cheese

[burnt latch]

ye but first nerf

dont think there couldve been multiple nerfs before we killed it

[near valley]

destro on the adds lagged my computer badly

[gusty mirage]

First was like mid April?

[cobalt hemlock]

any of you played halondrus pre nerf it looked absolutely crazy on stream

[gusty mirage]

Then they nerfed it again end of May

[thorn fjord]

You play sub

[near valley]

they nerfed halondrous in the race itself right?

[gusty mirage]

Well major nerfs that is

Yeah they had to

[burnt latch]

oh ye 26th of april

[near valley]

ye we didnt get to experience that brutal anguish

[burnt latch]

so 160 before any nerfs

pretty pog

[gusty mirage]

God bless

That fight was awful

[cobalt hemlock]

watching im firedup play that fight was actually satisfying somehow

[gusty mirage]

I spent my birthday wiping to anduin for 3 hours

[burnt latch]

thats just rude from your guild

[gusty mirage]

Best birthday present ever

[royal lantern]

[near valley]

brought u to tears i bet

[gusty mirage]

Idk what I hated more tbh; anduin or pantheon

Probably still pantheon

[royal lantern]

pantheon is a council fight

[thorn fjord]

Were you drinking atleast?

[royal lantern]

all council fights suck by default

[gusty mirage]

Me no drink

[royal lantern]

nobody likes council fights

[near valley]

wdym

[burnt latch]

what was wrong with pantheon

[near valley]

they are fine

[burnt latch]

it was decent

[near valley]

council was just dog

[cobalt hemlock]

max from liquid likes council fights

[gusty mirage]

I was sent to ST an add during lust while everyone else got to blast

[thorn fjord]

Pantheon was fine… battery was more of a chore

[near valley]

only thing that kept u going was the sigil dropping for u

[gusty mirage]

[burnt latch]

same dude

dark timeline

but it made sense

[gusty mirage]

Yeah I mean not like rogue aoe was any good

[thorn fjord]

Remember the zoldyk sbs play on early panth tho

I got benched for panth prog and was in the night we killed it