outlaw

[bright harbor]

And I just fill the prio damage role

[keen belfry]

i would say if playing with ademo lock youd probably want assa but idk exactly how cd specs work in coorindated groups

[ember rock]

whe i play with lock or dh comps i usually just go assa

but idk if thats "the right thing" to do

having perma tricks and consistent damage might be better overall

[gusty pagoda]

Does assa do cracked dmg in really high keys when shit lives long?

[keen belfry]

in comps do u want specs with same cds or do u want them desycned

i could see arguemnt for both

like do you want 2 2min specs?

[ember rock]

i think there is definitely a sweet spot

cuz its not like assa dmg just keeps going up the longer the pack lives

but you dont want the pack to die before ur cds end

[keen belfry]

yeah it smore of u have cds for like every pack almost ya know

if pack long enough

[gusty pagoda]

Dunno which youtuber it was, I think petko but he was talking about how assa is one of the highest dmg specs in high keys

But I got no clue tbh

[keen belfry]

dont take what petko says as truth

[ember rock]

idk about that

[gusty pagoda]

Ye thats why I ask

[keen belfry]

he knows some things he doesnt know all things

[ember rock]

think dk wins

over assa

in every key

could be wrong

[mighty pivot]

of course my vault has seat helmet after rolling for it 6 times and then crafting a helmet

[gusty pagoda]

Assa might win with pi?

[ember rock]

i think theres a lot of factors obviously but if the key was played perfectly i think dk would still win

thats just how good it is

lol

[bright harbor]

perma tricks is a game changer ?

[ember rock]

yea its very nice bro

saves ur healer from aggro

every pull

just in general very strong

[bright harbor]

litteraly have 0 clue on the class right now so asking dumb questions !

ok, the pre routine for outlaw seems tideous tho 😄

[gusty pagoda]

I like it because I can start dpsing before anyone else

[ember rock]

its def a qol thing but not having to worry about getting meleed ever in a key is nice

[mighty pivot]

there are no dumb questions

[gusty pagoda]

Tanks are like "stay here"

[bright harbor]

valid banger

[mighty pivot]

unless it's @wintry solar

[gusty pagoda]

How about no

[ember rock]

"dont hit them until thier grouped"

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-gif-9607989208337877207

[formal knot]

tricks on hunter, instantly start hitting

[bright harbor]

Outlaw it is then, will have plenty of time for learning other specs !
Will try to feedback on gaming with a demo lock

[ember rock]

also tho for the record assa is like infinitely easier so if ur jumping into high keys right away maybe something to consider

assa is a vibe compared to outlaw

[bright harbor]

oh yeah didn't think about that, kinda bad at outlaw for now, finding myself looking at bars a lot of times

but I guess if I don't prac I won't get good

[ember rock]

obviously learning and getting better is the fun part tho

i just didnt know if u were like going right into 20's or whatever

[bright harbor]

Will be 18-19 for a start as soon as I got decent gear yeah

[ember rock]

ye i think at that key lvl

[bright harbor]

started gearing it monday

[ember rock]

play whatever u want

try em all out see what u like most

assa/outlaw share same prio stats so its an easy swap

[gusty pagoda]

Does this work?

I never manage to get party members killed doing this

[ember rock]

did he mean misdirect? xd

cuz tricks on the hunter is funny

[gusty pagoda]

I thought he meant using tricks on hunter to get it killed

[ember rock]

yea idk lol

that shit doesnt work

[formal knot]

thats what i meant but i never tried it

[ember rock]

tanks wont let it happen

[formal knot]

my macro just goes perma on tanks anyway

[ember rock]

like for it to work the tank literally cant touch them

[obsidian mirage]

Do we still use a dagger in oh for attack speed?

[ember rock]

i think

[ember rock]

yea

[obsidian mirage]

thanks

[frail veldt]

If the hunter hasn't touched them it won't work either

Tricks can only redirect to something that's already on the threat table

[ember rock]

oh so they also need to be on the threat table?

[frail veldt]

Yeah

[ember rock]

damn

maybe in a certain scenario

its poss

but idk

[frail veldt]

Would work on like add spawns during a boss prob

[true cove]

The auto tank tricks macro is still a thing ?

[ember rock]

true adds that spawn while in combat

could b a thing

[ember rock]

there are addons and stuff

[true cove]

Sick thanks been doing it manually

[ember rock]

https://i.imgur.com/FgwCFCp.png

i use this one

might b a better one out there tho

[true cove]

Does it have a way to assign to a specific tank like the weakaura did ?

[ember rock]

it goes off group roles

i think

so if someone is the "tank" it will md that person

theres settings for raid stuff but

[true cove]

I remember being able to set a specific tank in the weakaura back in tww

[ember rock]

who cares about raid tricks

like by name?

[true cove]

Me when I’m smacking the ads on chimy

And auto tricks is on the other tank

[ember rock]

fair lol

[true cove]

Ye

[ember rock]

yea there is a way to do that i believe

[true cove]

Ok nice

[ember rock]

https://i.imgur.com/OJcpSDl.png

idk i havent messed with it

but im sure it has something similar to what ur asking

[true cove]

Ye should be fine I’ll find a way lol

[gusty pagoda]

I mean technically you can wait for tank to pull ahead, then use tricks on hunter and attack a pack close to the hunter and they should attack the hunter

But if hunter has misdirection active then I guess he can just attack the mobs and lead them to tank or just press feign death so not worth it vs hunters Id say

[gusty pagoda]

Ah nvm then

[inland acorn]

there is option to prio the focus tank

[ember rock]

i mean we could just vanish mobs onto the hunter also right

pull the mobs evasion get him in combat vanish

btw why does it have to be a hunter lmfaoooo

what did the hunter do

[gusty pagoda]

I don't really dislike hunters all that much

If I had to pick 1 class I hate it would probably be paladins, ret and prot specifically

Or demon hunters

[devout garden]

or rogues

oh shit wrong channel

[gusty pagoda]

Putting the rat in Rattuzzio I see

[sterile tusk]

holy fuck not rolling anything higher than a 2 in the middle section of MT for 8 minutes feels so ill

[gusty pagoda]

Yesterday I rolled jackpot at the end of 1st boss caverns and it ran out just before the next thrash pack

kir was on like 10 sec cd when it ran out

[gusty pagoda]

Rolled a 1 afterwards

[plain shuttle]

Hello, Just wondered if the raid talent tree on wowhead is the one we should play on every boss or if there are changes ? especially bc most of the bosses have aoe

[sterile tusk]

i guess im still paying for the sins of this key

[inland acorn]

if unsure, you can just check top100 outlaw parses on warcraftlogs for specific bosses and see the talents that people play.

[coarse hedge]

hey i got the crit vers mace in my vault is that any good?

[inland acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[river wing]

generally best wep you can get outside of myth raid, so yeah

[hallow spoke]

btw whats the blade rush min range for movement?

feel like sometimes I can ss but i still get yeet'd forward

could be tripping tho

[quick quail]

Has anyone experienced duplicate m+ bonus rolls again? I am pingponging tickets with gms and blizzard ai for 3 days and they finally confirmed it could happen to bypass their safety net due to the bonus roll having a socket or tercial proc. I sent them my raiderio where it is visible I dropped the mythic item on saturday thus no way having it from a greater vault. Also sent them my raidbots logs where inventory and GV is visible

[vivid vessel]

lol

[river wing]

socketed or +tertiary drops are counted as a separate item
holy spaghetti

[arctic hollow]

Have you changed your loot specialisation ? Apparently the loot pools are entirely separated

[ocean quartz]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[quick quail]

Well holy shit what? I didnt switch the spec and cant confirm now whether Im hard stuck outlaw spec or current spec. But what is this bullshitery lmao

[vivid vessel]

no they fixed that

can mouseover the roll thing

and change spec

you will see

[quick quail]

Okay so socket/tercial = hidden id

Kekw are we paying

[coarse hedge]

Sick

[cerulean portal]

so is it outlaw+arms+dh we play now?

[hasty warren]

hi pirates

[cerulean portal]

hi pirate

[rancid onyx]

is there a benifit for outlaw to be in stealth? I can use Vanish just for def right?

felt kinda confusing switching from Assa to outlaw 😄

[river wing]

no benefit from stealth

[loud moat]

It's a defensive/channeled ability break.

[river wing]

so yeah, just target denial

[rancid onyx]

y I still go invis out of fight cause of habit but its not needed I guess

[river wing]

yeah it does nothing outside of sometimes causing hilarious facepulls from people who forget you're in stealth and they're not

[rancid onyx]

Yesterday I had som bugges with my Cool down Manager where my RTB Buffs just disapeard from my Buff list

and rerolled good buffs a lot somone had the same issue?

[languid ledge]

yes I have that same issue, been happening for a few weeks

really annoying

[languid ledge]

what cooldown manager do you use?

[rancid onyx]

Cooldown Manager Centered

[languid ledge]

ok I use a different one, probably not an addon issue then

[rancid onyx]

I havent played today and there was a update, maybe its fixed but dunno

[cerulean portal]

look at this first pull

i feel so good with the gaze

[rancid onyx]

well which dungeon or key? xD

[cerulean portal]

seat 19

[rancid onyx]

DK seems kinda low for a big pull

[ember rock]

was this like one pack?

[ember rock]

the first pull in question https://i.imgur.com/5jteQlG.png

[shell fossil]

is running slight + ld generally better on the voidspire bosses?

copied a wcl build for paladins today and dropped dancing steel

[cerulean portal]

twas chain pull

anyways tank died to charges gege

[river wing]

p sure DS isn't worth for paladins, Sleight should be better

[ember rock]

xd im just trollin

[shell fossil]

yeah hit 200k on some jackpot rolls when all 3 grouped

we're not reclearing for at least a month but might as well lol

[cerulean portal]

btw how do i get the "outlaw" title?

shoud i say like "sub, assa sucks"?

[ember rock]

uhh check pins i think

[languid kestrel]

What the hell take that back

[cerulean portal]

[snow vessel]

DS doesn't really give you any damage gain on paladins

[cerulean portal]

how do i look now guys?

[shell fossil]

yeah i noticed that some imperator/salad logs are also running slight+ld

[snow vessel]

Adds die too fast to get value for a lot of people now

if you are in a run or guilds where people don't aoe DS still good but you might also just be better off full ST talents at this point

most of the adds in VS are kinda just mindless pad

[shell fossil]

yeah the kill times are all over the place ppl are definitely holding for add phases

[river wing]

energetic

[cerulean portal]

why im still new member tho

with whom i should sleep with to remove that

pls

[formal knot]

you will forever be a new member

[cerulean portal]

https://tenor.com/view/stillesque-gif-25542034

[river wing]

broski I've been here for more than a year and I'm still a new member

[gusty pagoda]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[inland acorn]

it's been known bug for +1 month, it's not addon related, it's game issue

[gusty pagoda]

So when exactly do we use rtb? In the bubble as well or just before you start the first pack?

[inland acorn]

before pack

to have as high timer left on it as possible, in case you roll something juicy

[buoyant stratus]

what if we went

even further...

[gusty pagoda]

I was thinking using it earlier would be more beneficial in case the roll is bad but it's at least +2 anyway with loaded dice I guess

At 28% haste do you just go crit flask?

I still run out of energy sometimes in extended combat with 23% haste using haste flask

[inland acorn]

It doesnt matter much if its only 2 though

Since you prep refresh bte which means your second rtb will be back very soon

[inland acorn]

I've been here for 6 years still new member

[brittle lake]

!zac

!ui

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
• Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent

[brittle lake]

ZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCC

[inland acorn]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQ-spyZPGZ4y5diilAnap5nEybU7fWY5nFUNala5rjQ7bPxLKQLWRCVLdmFImcX4_WvvTKE3sKz3Q2g/pub

[brittle lake]

love u

[wintry solar]

You're why I don't ask questions

[mighty pivot]

thank me for my service

[cerulean portal]

ZACCARII

[cedar kernel]

[nocturne wren]

guys, why does it feel like any unprotected roll ALWAYS results in a 1

[cedar kernel]

thats the outlaw

[timid portal]

bad luck

its 50/50

[nocturne wren]

game hates me, its a 0/100. 100% chance to get a chud one

https://tenor.com/view/eleon-eleons-eleon-adventures-ccg-roblox-gif-16288293445628495064

[timid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-anotado-noted-noted-gato-noted-cat-gif-15232071836705052766

[nocturne wren]

so Im new here btw. This is the only chat channel that matters right? cause we are superior for our giga brain gameplay compared to the smooth brain assass and sub players right?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

[vivid vessel]

yes !

[nocturne wren]

I started as Assass when I got my rogue up. Tried Outlaw on a whim and have fell in love. I have since purchased a pirate hat and ninja katanas to hone my craft

I tried Sub today and felt the ancestors cry out from the great beyond in shame and agony

[twilit axle]

You need a rapier and a cutlass

Or a broken bottle

[lapis meadow]

Weekly 10s be wild sometimes

[nocturne wren]

the less dmg your teammates do, the more dmg you get to do

[lapis meadow]

True, they were helping me honestly

Boomy fighting for his life to out dps the disc priest

[nocturne wren]

mission failed successfully

[gaunt phoenix]

forgor what to do after moonfire

[nocturne wren]

maybe is a guardian druid main and just did that roto

[random stirrup]

I had a boomie like this in a 10 this week myself

lost to the healer in overall despite being 260

[gaunt phoenix]

herbalism bot accidentally queue'd

[random stirrup]

0 starsurges cast in the entire dungeon

was just walking into crawth and spamming starfall

[lapis meadow]

I'm 90% sure he bought a +10 the week before because he did 0 mechs and died 10 times

But I bonus rolled the neck so worf

[nocturne wren]

Bling Acquired

[earnest sphinx]

outlaw gear finally almost finished 99%

[nocturne wren]

uh sir may I have that Mythic Plume pls?

[earnest sphinx]

just noticed im still missing a belt

i was honestly hoping for alleria neck 4sub gaming

but plume isnt bad

[nocturne wren]

need to replace helm and use tier legs

[frozen quest]

Nice ring u need different gem types 😂

[south crypt]

Why is every outlaw rogue using Prism instead of Plume? I sim and hero version (with ascended) sims better than Mythic Prism (ascended)

[nocturne wren]

dirty nasty stinky sub main

[south crypt]

Is it simbait? Should i go for Prism instead?

[nocturne wren]

Plume is rare and Prism is easy as hell to get?

[earnest sphinx]

wym gng

[vivid vessel]

its easier to time a skyreach 10

than to kill beloren mythic

[south crypt]

Indeed, but the HC version of Plume sims better than mythic prism

[vivid vessel]

they should be basically the same i think

[nocturne wren]

HC plume is a bit ahead, ST, cleave, and 5min dungeon slice

but agian. rng is rng. you either got to get it as a drop in Heroic or in vault

[south crypt]

If they are then im getting it because ilvl and then i get the magic ilvl number (290)

[earnest sphinx]

chat are there any good shoulders in the game rn

for law

[nocturne wren]

Tier shoulders

[south crypt]

ok +/- 400

[earnest sphinx]

there is nothing in dungeons and i have tierset from sub gear

[nocturne wren]

You opt out of Tier helm for Crit Haste helm from Seat

[earnest sphinx]

fk the paladin ones

[nocturne wren]

and you run Tier legs for Outlaw

[earnest sphinx]

do have

[vivid vessel]

i mean you need 4p lil bro

head is what you replace

iudeally

you cant replace both head and shoulders

[nocturne wren]

Acquire this. or crraft 285

[earnest sphinx]

5head

[south crypt]

It's beautiful😭

[earnest sphinx]

no more bonusrolls this week so

@vivid vessel bro i was making fun of you for wearing the crit only helmet

looks like i might have to aswell

[vivid vessel]

noob

[earnest sphinx]

[dim parrot]

Got this this week pretty gassed up

I think I’m done gearing just need 2 sockets

[marsh robin]

as a player that will be doing only M+ is it safe to just do double arcanoweave craft? or would someone suggest what i sink into

[lapis meadow]

If you're only doing m+ I think offhand will probably be better

[plain shuttle]

Quick question about that : I have the 4p for sub (so head and not legs) and when i switch to crafted head + tier legs i loose dmg on sims

[lapis meadow]

Sim it

[nocturne wren]

hmmm what would be strange. might not be getting the haste breakpoints? no idea without seeing the full picture

[lapis meadow]

If you're like deep into crit haste, sometimes vers/mastery will become not as shit

[plain shuttle]

I have 884 haste 1177 crit and 577 mast (bc i had sub gear ) so switching haste/mastery legs and tier head should be a huge gain but it is not

that's what i dont get

what is the haste breakpoint ? sorry rlly new to the spec

[lapis meadow]

Trust the clanker

[quiet root]

221k overall is really sick in a 10 considering how tanks usually play in those

was it pit?

[lapis meadow]

It was lol

[river wing]

I still habitually put metas into the head socket
as soon as I have one

[lapis meadow]

I'm sitting at like 42% crit 23% haste I think

[earnest sphinx]

with haste flask

https://giphy.com/gifs/star-wars-memes-clankers-xeBE8Qm7tXnmSBB89W

[lapis meadow]

I'm a bit mastery heavy cause I play all 3 specs

[nocturne wren]

ye you want to get to 25% haste. Sims won't pick it up perfectly either for the same reason you want 700-800 haste as Sub. Human error

[lapis meadow]

I just use haste flask

[quiet root]

haste flask puts me at 28% haste but it still feels better than crit flask xd

[nocturne wren]

id have to see your sim setup to see why the helm swap isn't simming higher but who knows

[quiet root]

at 24% haste it feels like if you ever get unlucky and consume all your tea, the rest of the dungeon is just a struggle

[lapis meadow]

Yeah getting more haste made trickster feel a lot better

I was playing FB for a while cause I couldn't figure out why my damage was so much lower

[shell fossil]

i tried simming to see if i could lose heart of wind with some crafted gear but it preferred it

it's weird

[cerulean portal]

why bloodmallet sim fb?

[gusty pagoda]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7cbGQ36A8UGkZDbYX8UhYK Should I still take heart of wind since it's supposed to be the better trinket?

[cerulean portal]

do i trust that

[gaunt phoenix]

fb is good

[cerulean portal]

it is good

but not as trickster

i hope they buff fb cz im sick of the cloud

why its not just the buff without the visuals

[grim spear]

Can't we use grappling to get back on the final boss of skyreach?

[cinder relic]

You can't heroic leap either.

[dim parrot]

I think only abilities that don’t require pathing work

[grim spear]

Thought it would work.

[glacial agate]

298 heart of wind simming highest for M+ with 298 gaze, even over 298 solarflare, why is dis sim bait?

[gaunt phoenix]

perhaps you are low on haste

[glacial agate]

ah you are correct my haste a bit low

[gusty pagoda]

for me it sims 800 dps lower than void stalker contract with 20% haste

[glacial agate]

interesting i dont think i will take it from vault, no one on logs is using it

in raid or m+

[gaunt phoenix]

we want passive haste not a haste bonus

[cerulean portal]

i just made a ticket

[glacial agate]

thats what i thought, thx solo

[cerulean portal]

if they rework the cloud

gege me

[gusty pagoda]

guess voidstalker is better for m+

[cerulean portal]

WHOS VOIDSTALKER OMG

[gusty pagoda]

some contract idk

[quaint kelp]

!trinkets

[cerulean portal]

!zac

[gaunt phoenix]

M gaze > M plume > H plume >= M solarflare > the rest

[quaint kelp]

guidon svck ?

[gaunt phoenix]

oh ranger captain is somewhere in there

[gusty pagoda]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1Q9pzSFdHuEsYncHmQcbB2 heart sims better in ST tho

[cerulean portal]

never plume man

[cerulean portal]

tell me u joking)

[gaunt phoenix]

zac used guidon cause he didnt have plume

then ppl copy it like it's a secret tech

but M guidon is fairly similar to H plume

and probably feels like it helps energy a bit

[quaint kelp]

thanks for ur replies bro:)

[vivid vessel]

thats an actual skill issue

[cerulean portal]

guidon is skill issue

[halcyon garden]

zac

[thorn parrot]

Are spec rolls different pools for the Voidcore rolls?

[halcyon garden]

should i play outlaw now

[cursive gyro]

No, try feral.

[halcyon garden]

ok

[cerulean portal]

wanna get ambushed?

[cursive gyro]

Blizz would rather you not press ambush.

[gaunt phoenix]

they are per-spec, yeah.

loot spec rather

[thin fiber]

!DEF

[ornate heath]

Rogue Defensive Spreadsheet: > Click to open <

[thorn parrot]

Messed up big not just doing straight assassin on Pit oh well

[gaunt phoenix]

same

i fucked it somewhere

[hollow zenith]

hey guys! im new to rogue, please feedback

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/smolderthorn/istab?zone=47

[gaunt phoenix]

ok !

[hollow zenith]

tag me when u have something to say ❤️

[gaunt phoenix]

first thing, i think you're not maintaining blade flurry

this is the first pull

the blade flurry uptime is at the top

if you are in aoe you should have blade flurry active permanently

for your combo points, you should be spending at 6 combo points

it seems like you are landing at 6 and then deliberately building to 7

or sometimes finishing at 3-4-5 cps

[zenith gyro]

I'm playing outlaw rogue for the first time. When looking at the rotation guide Shiv isn't listed anywhere. Is there any reason to ever use it on raids or M+?

[gaunt phoenix]

no, it is utility only

it dispells enrage

[inland acorn]

Idk when was last time i specced into shiv

[zenith gyro]

Not really even sure the last time a mob I was fighting was enraged

[inland acorn]

There are some enrages, think in Maisara and somewhere else

But I doubt they're relevant unless you're pushing high keys, in your 10-12 weeklies I doubt it matters, unless your tank is undergeared

Also other classes cover enrage dispells better, like hunters, druids

[vivid vessel]

ye sure go for it lil bro

[halcyon garden]

prankex^^^^

[vivid vessel]

^^

[zenith gyro]

I have the default rotation assist enabled. With 6 combo points and 6 points of Opportunity, why does it suggest Pistol Shot over Dispatch? bad blizz logic?

[gaunt phoenix]

ye it's wrong

if it really does do that

[slow granite]

so bonus rool on spec change are bugged aren't they
i did all rolls as outlaw on pit, now i switched to assa for the dagger

but it shows me i have all pieces yet to receieve

[inland acorn]

it's not bug

it's intentional, bonus rolls are per loot spec*

[vivid vessel]

thats weird

someone showed they changed that

[slow granite]

that makes it worse FOR ME at least

[vivid vessel]

i think i even checked it in game to make sure

[slow granite]

it's the same loot between the two aside for the wep

[vivid vessel]

also its obviously a bug lol

something that is obviously not intended to be that way is a bug

[slow granite]

ye

[inland acorn]

I don't think it's a bug

I just think they're unable to implement it better, with their shit code

[slow granite]

but it makes no sense

[slow granite]

this does on the other hand

xd

[inland acorn]

This game is literally holding by a duct tape

[vivid vessel]

explain this

@inland acorn @slow granite

how come this guy can change spec

[slow granite]

and mind you, i just remembered that i was indeed rolling with assassination loot spec all time long, but now i can't get the dagger

[hardy vault]

Friend of mine rolled skyreach empty but accidentally as bm hunter

Now the table reset and he won’t get his guaranteed dagger for sv

[inland acorn]

yeah mind you

[vivid vessel]

how did this guy do it then

[inland acorn]

we had technically a patch this reset

[vivid vessel]

i dont get it

did they revert the fix

[inland acorn]

and we all know how good blizzard is

[gaunt phoenix]

hm

[inland acorn]

with maintaining pipelines

[vivid vessel]

this is true

[cerulean portal]

i feel i get guidon tonight

[vivid vessel]

means 3x more chance of getting tertiraries tho !

so good !

[thorn parrot]

lmfao

[inland acorn]

Like just this season alone

How many times did we have a fuckup with pipeline and fix getting reverted

[slow granite]

i did this last week if i remember correctly_
i was assassination, i didnt want the dagger at that point, i switched to outlaw (and in transfered the left items - the last one being the belt) but it counted as if i did all of assassination

[inland acorn]

at least 2 times right ?

for crafting and something else

[thorn parrot]

I literally just had the opposite happen to me this morning

[deep tide]

I understand, that we're putting a lot of stock in a billion dollar company, getting their deployment pipelines / implementation correct, but I think there are a lot of arm chair developers who aren't acknowledging the singular fact that what they're doing is hard, and people are human.

[vivid vessel]

haha

ye sure thing buddy

[deep tide]

Wdym?

[inland acorn]

Maintaining pipeline

Is hard ?

[vivid vessel]

the type of shit we get from blizzard you would get fired from any normal company

[inland acorn]

I'm sorry, what

[vivid vessel]

they are not human

or its litteraly just one guy

deving the whole game alone

[deep tide]

I mean, existing pipelines it depends on how the workflows are, I'm just saying people give this entirely way too much criticism, without being there themselves.

I'm not condoning it, or I'm particularly happy with it.

[inland acorn]

Because it's the most basic thing

[vivid vessel]

there aint a single game that cost more than wow

[inland acorn]

Which you can't fuckup if you pay 5 minutes of attention

[vivid vessel]

and then they breka the entire game every patch

revert bug fixes from 3 months ago

dont even do the most basic qa

also they litteraly have players testing their patches for them on ptr and beta

and that isnt enough for them

they still release everything broken

you pay 10eu a month

[inland acorn]

Like I'm sorry, I'm developer and my company is pushing weekly deploys with like changes from +15 developers

[vivid vessel]

80eu an expac

every server/race transfer

[inland acorn]

And we never had an issue of something reverting

Or something going with deploy that shouldn't

[vivid vessel]

and they even have micro transactions

and they cant do a merge properly

[deep tide]

@inland acorn You're also not deploying at the same scale.

[inland acorn]

The scale doesn't matter

[vivid vessel]

they been doing this for 20 years

might be time they get something more solid going on

idk how this happens every single patch

without exception

[deep tide]

What do you mean the scale doesn't matter?

[dim parrot]

If you run loot table dry before switching specs then it doesn’t work

[vivid vessel]

idk what this menas

[dim parrot]

I still had cape in pit loot table so I swapped to assa yesterday and cape and kricks was available

[vivid vessel]

ah you mean

get to actual 0

well thats funny

[dim parrot]

But if I had taken the last one as outlaw then it resets

[inland acorn]

What scale has to do with devs just maintaining clean branches and pipelines

And then just deploying correct one

???

[deep tide]

Well, it has to do with promotion.

Dirty commits happen, people cherry pick in mistakes, and in the age of AI things have gotten progressively worse with people 'double checking'.

Should something get reverted, probably not. Did somebody force push something and it got reverted, I mean I don't know exactly what happened I wish we had post-mortems that were public.

[vivid vessel]

ye imagine if they were doing a post morten every week

what was it this week

ah ye

arcane mage

suddenlty unplayable

[wide heath]

so are the sharpening enchants from bs good now 😄 ?

[vivid vessel]

cause negative mana

[soft abyss]

I did it in the first 1-2 weeks. I think it was patched later

[deep tide]

I mean, the whole Arcane thing is wild, because you'd expect the behavior to be present on PTR.

[vivid vessel]

so wild that this happen to 2/3 spec every patch

very wild

[deep tide]

Sure, absolutely.

[inland acorn]

there was no PTR

It was tuning patch

[vivid vessel]

i wasnt even surprised when i saw the wowhead post

[deep tide]

I meant private.

[vivid vessel]

like

its just the usual now

[deep tide]

Like, they should have some internal QA kind of thing.

[vivid vessel]

i expect my spec to be broken every patch

[vivid vessel]

sure bro

[inland acorn]

We are QAs

If you haven't noticed for past 2 years

[deep tide]

I mean 'should', and what's reality is obviously two different things.

But, they're attempting to move fast and they're just breaking shit, and it's not acceptable. I agree.

[vivid vessel]

didnt they fire half of their qa people in like df

[gaunt phoenix]

they acknowledged 12.0.5 wasn't to their standard

[vivid vessel]

great

[gaunt phoenix]

you are right that no one knows unless they work there

[deep tide]

Yeah, but to be fair from @vivid vessel and @inland acorn's PoV there's a sub-standard in quality.

[vivid vessel]

its way way under any standard for litteraly the game that cost the most to play on the market

[deep tide]

And if it wasn't one of the largest game developers, that built a game we've been dedicated to for x amount of years.

[vivid vessel]

find me any game that cost as much as wow

[deep tide]

We probably wouldn't be playing it.

Like if it was any other game, this wouldn't fly.

They'd be in the bin like New World.

[inland acorn]

Yes

[deep tide]

But the only thing that I can speak from, is working at larger corporations is that elephants are hard as shit to move.

And the process of something so very large.

Like even their pipelines for hotfix deployments are probably immense.

So, I'm just saying, like we give them a lot of shit, and it's warranted, but.. I think a lot of the people that are giving a significant amount of feedback of how 'simple this is' has never worked in Major Corporation Red Tape land. And my heart kinda' goes out to the folks and Blizzard still trying to make this work.

Bad quality is what happens when unreasonable deadlines meet bad management and everyone pretends it’s a mystery.

[zenith gyro]

As someone new to retail rogue, is it safe to say Outlaw is the most complex rotation of the 3 specs?

for PVE

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[deep tide]

Yeah.

[inland acorn]

Yes

[deep tide]

A ton of variables.

[zenith gyro]

I started with sublety and while levelling up it was simple. Do Shadow Dance and melt stuff rinse and repeat

[deep tide]

Yeah, Sub is a scripted interaction p much.

[inland acorn]

shadow dance is core of sub rotation during cds

[rose granite]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dull geyser]

why does 21 nexus feel like the hardest key

[vivid vessel]

nexus is the most rng key

[vapid sundial]

It's just ff I think

[vivid vessel]

bunch of things can happen for no reasons differenly

[vapid sundial]

Or do you mean development

[dull geyser]

do you have a strat for first boss or just yolo it

we strugle with the rng

[vivid vessel]

try to drop puddles on the outside of the arena

and play on the outside

[vapid sundial]

Also hi Zac.

[young mango]

@zac hey, how much haste should we have (for m+, without flask and stuff) ? and how much is the limit of haste?

[vivid vessel]

i think drag boss more middle before big aoe also is good

[vivid vessel]

idk like between 22 and 28

xdd

[dull geyser]

hi ryker

[vapid sundial]

Hello

[vivid vessel]

no i meant cost to play

[vapid sundial]

Then ye ff is the only comp

Since sub and expac

[frail veldt]

Does anyone have a timer for the orbs on last boss MT

so im not accidentally moving

and 1 shot myself

[vivid vessel]

i made a weak aura for it

[frail veldt]

yeah

need that

[vivid vessel]

but do you deserve it

[midnight granite]

Hahaha debuff timers in this expac? No chance bud

[frail veldt]

[vapid sundial]

Can I have it?

Zac

Dm

[vivid vessel]

also it only works if you have taken the haste debuff from start of the dungeon

cause im just counting up the debuffs

and getting the third one

[frail veldt]

from the item?

[vivid vessel]

ye the book

[young mango]

i have 2 crafted item , sword and legs with embelishments, i have fetid helm with socket(hero) and i got myth devouring nights helm but without socket. and when i sim my hero is better than that myth 289 for some reason. should i craft helm with haste crit is it worth?

[vivid vessel]

idk the name of items you kinda lost me

also you could craft engineer helm

full crit

kinda a banger

[young mango]

o rly ?

[vivid vessel]

https://wago.io/mz74YZhkZ @frail veldt @vapid sundial

[frail veldt]

I am at an unfortunate point as night elf

where I have low haste during the day

and too high during the night

[gaunt phoenix]

mrl

[dull geyser]

i take this ty

[frail veldt]

goated

[vivid vessel]

also it stays on your screen perma when on last boss cause i didnt bother fixing it to hide after debuff drops

[frail veldt]

thats okay

[gaunt phoenix]

i meant to type me_irl but that didnt happen

[frail veldt]

idc

[zinc briar]

are we the worst dps in all boses?

[frail veldt]

nope

[gaunt phoenix]

i dont think so

[frail veldt]

just you

[zinc briar]

just me? hahahaha

[vivid vessel]

like that

[zinc briar]

wanna see 100 parse?

[vivid vessel]

just a lil bar

i wanted to have a circle but its not possible

[frail veldt]

thats perf

I just need to know

when a soak spawns

if I should wait to move

or move immediately

[vivid vessel]

yes !

[young mango]

check dm when u free please xD

[gaunt phoenix]

zac help mygear..

[frail veldt]

zac can you help me pick my transmog

[dim parrot]

Zac when use guidon? After pack die or no

[young mango]

🥹

[vapid sundial]

Zac how do you get a girlfriend

Or a boyfriend if you swing that way

[frail veldt]

make them ketchup pasta

[dim parrot]

Hmm

Ketchup pasta for r1 so they’ll leave you alone forever and let u game I think

[frail veldt]

Zac can you resolve this ticket for me

[vapid sundial]

Zac could do your job faster and better than you, didn't you know

[vivid vessel]

sorry i dont asnwer dms that starts with, can i ask a question

actually one of my rule

[lime lake]

[vivid vessel]

i think its a manipulation tactic to steal more of your time

like you know

[frail veldt]

like when someone dms you on slack

"hello"

its bait

[vivid vessel]

same thing about asking for the time to a stranger on the streets

[frail veldt]

nevere respond

[vivid vessel]

and then

asking for more

[young mango]

ok ok 😄

[vapid sundial]

Wait I judt saw a meme

For this

One. Minute

Let me find it

[vivid vessel]

otherwise you can directly ask your question here

and i or anyuone else will answer

[frail veldt]

zacs name is no longer green

he doesnt work here

[vapid sundial]

Loktark isn't green but he's my go to

[young mango]

back in the days i was using omnicd or sth and i could saw grp's personal deffs and i had another one for interrupts. and now can't find any help

[vapid sundial]

That's gone

[frail veldt]

if i want zacs help I just ask in general and he will correct someone if they give me the wrong answer

[young mango]

unlucky

[vapid sundial]

I prefer to dm lok bc it's isolated and easy for me to look back at

Whereas outlaw....

YKnow

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[frail veldt]

everyday

[vivid vessel]

thats true

i dont always answer but if someone says something wrong

idk bro

i have to no?

[midnight granite]

[flat karma]

Any tips for lura myth as outlaw? Is it just single target talents and blast?

[vivid vessel]

it is

hold 2nd prep for p3

damage amp

[flat karma]

Sweet ty chief

[vivid vessel]

tho i guess maybe now if you wanted to pad

[young mango]

outlaw is weak in raids compared to sub right ?

[vivid vessel]

you could prep in fake phase

[vivid vessel]

its fine nowadays

[random stirrup]

minicc will show you a couple of the group's defensives

whatever blizzard says is legal for you to see

dont think any of the interrupt trackers work

[flat karma]

Prog so ill prob save padding until reclear

[random stirrup]

the blizzi one is schizo af

[flat karma]

Or the midnigt crystals

[zenith gyro]

When Ace up the Sleeve procs do you wait to use Between the Eyes when you get back up to 6 combo points?

[young mango]

raid build for outlaw is up to date ye?

cleave and st (both)

[keen belfry]

if u join a key and youre whispered by someone to enchant ur boots u have to not enchant them right?

[gaunt palm]

no gaslight them into thinking they have a ui bug

[languid kestrel]

Replace em with a green boe that is enchanted

[lime lake]

keep a pair of enchanted boots in your inventory to link but not put on

so they think inspect is bugged

and are mildly confused for a few seconds before moving on with their life

[frail veldt]

literally have to

[inland acorn]

Which phase is fake

The amp ?

[vivid vessel]

secret phase

its the easiest phase and you can beat the damage check with legit 5 people dead

while the more damage you do in the first part of the fight

the easier the fight get

cause you skip more mechanics

[inland acorn]

To be ethical or not to be

[young mango]

guys , what is Sparkle +1 on crafted item ? im crafting 3rd item now and should i do that embelishment for that or naa?

[vivid vessel]

it let you do backflips when you jump

[young mango]

zac , crit limit is around 40 % right ?

[vivid vessel]

no limits

[young mango]

5 target 3 min , am i simming properly ?

[vivid vessel]

do these things with top gear

gear compare can be weird something

also did you socket the other heads

[young mango]

ah i was always using gear comp... oops

[vivid vessel]

cant see on gear compare

[deft jackal]

What talents do we use for raid for +24% haste

[gaunt phoenix]

sparkle is when you remove an embellishment

[vivid vessel]

It never ends ..

[cinder relic]

MORE POWER

[gaunt phoenix]

power

[vivid vessel]

It's legit so annoying for keys

There is a full wipe clean every 2 weeks

Not even joking

[gaunt palm]

wtf..

[unkempt iris]

I read it all too, its literally just reshii wraps again p much

Midnight must be the time for casuals

[vivid vessel]

This season is legit slop

Over and over

I'm getting spammed with bullshit Perma

[unkempt iris]

Amen

I knew we were cooked when we had like 50 currencies

But now they are just shoving shit down our throat at this point

[young mango]

why i cant upgrade this item into top gear to 285 ? :\

went up to 272

[reef forge]

is this going to be an item we equip or just a buff?

[vivid vessel]

When you add an item to top gear you can select mythic crests on the right

[young mango]

oh thanks

[lapis meadow]

Bring back corruptions

I want to stack twilight dev

[jolly geyser]

more power slop

[gaunt palm]

If it was something fun I would be ok with it, but it's literally just a stat buff and some defensive slop

Gimme an extra talent point, an extra trinket slot, some extra action button spell

[unkempt iris]

Or just do more class tuning that isnt a slap in the face or blatantly AI

(Arcane mage)

They’re wasting so much time with borrowed power and casual slop

[vivid vessel]

Idk it's just really cringe for m+

[gaunt palm]

If class tuning was AI it would be good tho. I think it's actual employees

[unkempt iris]

I like to believe that for the funnies but did u see the arcane mage bug that got hot fixed yesterday?

[gaunt palm]

no I only play outlaw

did they break mage?

[vivid vessel]

Based

Gun merchant

[unkempt iris]

First zac is right

But yeah they accidentally made their mana regen a mana drain, so if u were in combat your mana just drained passively… almost as if someone, or something (AI) accidentally put a - in front of a number

[gaunt palm]

hmmm yea thats sus

[unkempt iris]

But hey more borrowed power!!!!

[gaunt phoenix]

it wasn't just a negative number, it had to do with mana regen scaling per level

[gaunt palm]

@vivid vessel When are u gaming, I need content before bed

[gaunt phoenix]

eventually going negative

[young mango]

guys , i simmed the gear on 5 target for 3 min. what is the most accurate ?

[vivid vessel]

In 10 min

[random stirrup]

it wasnt just combat bro

sitting in silvermoon you slowly drain down to 0 mana and can never cast again

[vivid vessel]

We get resi 23 this week muma

[unkempt iris]

Thats what they want u to believe 😼

[vivid vessel]

I think we are able to play

[unkempt iris]

Im joking, kinda

[vivid vessel]

Resi 23 or disband !

[gaunt palm]

Yea you did good yesterday

but inc a few days of depleto

[vivid vessel]

Impossible

[unkempt iris]

Yeah i forgot the specifics 😭 still crazy work because this accompanied their “buff”

[gaunt palm]

SEAT, WS should go pretty fast

[vivid vessel]

Idk about spire

[gaunt palm]

We have a new spire cook

[vivid vessel]

Seat and nexus are one shots tho

[vivid vessel]

Ok what is it

We also have new spire cook tho

[gaunt palm]

hmm ok its not really a cook

we have multiple, but one is that warr TPS out and changes spec before 4th boss while I get funnel. We found out that as soon as he is inside dung again, we can pull boss

the gateway works and the door at last boss is fake

[vivid vessel]

Yes

[gaunt palm]

now your turn

Oh I also taught Shai a NPX cook today when I played with him

Idk if you knew this, but the 2nd boss RP adds spawn condition is based on the 2 nullifiers, not the big add

[vivid vessel]

No clue what this means

[gaunt palm]

The adds that spawn that you have to kill at 2nd boss area

they spawn when the 2 casters die

[vivid vessel]

Oh ye

[gaunt palm]

not the big add

he doesnt mater

[vivid vessel]

Well I thought you needed to kill the whole pack

[gaunt palm]

nope

just the 2 smalls

[vivid vessel]

Interesting

[gaunt palm]

but most ppl prio focus the big guy

[vivid vessel]

Ye

[gaunt palm]

and they all 3 die at same time

[vivid vessel]

Imma target the adds hehe

[gaunt palm]

its a nice time save, then the big add just dies to passive cleave. You basicalyl never target him

I learned this in a +10 on my alt btw

[hallow spoke]

speaking of npx

can warriors acciendtly refect the circle back onto the mobs?

[gaunt palm]

Yes

[hallow spoke]

had a mob with that shit chasing our tank earlier

[gaunt palm]

yea its annoying

[cedar bone]

bro you legit the goat, you told me on stream to get prism mythic and you legit summoned it into my vault

[vivid vessel]

Np

[stark star]

is the crafted engineer head good? the one with only haste on it

[gaunt palm]

If you need haste it's "good", but its less ilvl and the embellishment it can have sucks, so you want 2 other crafted items anyway

[stark star]

alright, was asking cuz i saw that some top rogues have it crafted like tomelvis and wox

[gaunt palm]

Its kinda free to craft right now, so sim your gear and see

[stark star]

sure, thx

[blissful idol]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[unkempt iris]

Literally done this boss every week since it dropped and ive never seen it drop on norm or heroic… i FINALLY got it the first time it dropped

[hollow wedge]

!stats

[ornate heath]

Outlaw's stat prio is generally Crit > Haste* > Vers >= Mastery.

• You need ~21-23% haste for energy, this has priority over crit. That's the haste on your stat page after talents/buffs/flask.
• Crit is then your best stat until you approach ~40%, from there random vers or mastery pieces will be similar.
• You have to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine the exact combination of pieces to use.

[still matrix]

have 8 coins and nothing to spend them on apart from helm from seat

do i just yolo roll it?

nothing else but belo myth roll i guess to but that is only once a week

[gaunt phoenix]

show gear

[still matrix]

crown myth wep isnt even an upgrade over current according to sim

[unkempt iris]

Yeah id just yolo the helm

Eventually you have to get it anyways, plus like u said plume is time gated so think of it as having 6 rolls dedicated for the helm and your weekly 2 is towards belo

[still matrix]

Ye

[formal thunder]

can outlaw skip the 2 destroyers on their own in Seat?

[marsh prism]

grapple wall

[lapis meadow]

"no path detected" has entered the chat

[formal thunder]

ye, watched Zac vid, now I know where to aim

[keen belfry]

just stand on the ledge thing jump and grapple

[marsh prism]

You need to target the grey wall that just a little bit behind initial wall

and you can grapple without jump, just standing on broken peace

[gusty pagoda]

it ain't much but cmon I still can't get into a single fking 10-12 key

[formal thunder]

rogue crit raid buff when

[untold wadi]

!wangbar

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
• Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent

[untold wadi]

wtf

oh

!wangbar2

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
• Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent

[untold wadi]

just blind

ignore me

[red tendon]

Is heroic plume better then Solarflare Mythic?

[fair iron]

zac, what is the source of your feint circle graphic on (at least) last boss of skyreach? standalone m33k? tyty

[clever wasp]

sim will give u this answer, but the answer is no

[red tendon]

Yea thats why I wonder cause for me it sims both ST and Dungeon sim 0,1% higer

[clever wasp]

298 vs 285? (or whatever hc becomes)

[red tendon]

Yea both voidforged

[stuck sparrow]

imagine my upset

when i coined a solarflare

after already having a myth plume

[clever wasp]

i mean they are very similar, so probably correct yeah

but ilvl is king for gettng into keys

[red tendon]

Yea crazy how good plume is then to beat/equal with myth solarflare

[clever wasp]

yeah plume is sick

but like, think about it like this, hc gaze beats both

on mythic

[stuck sparrow]

gaze is just hella overbudget

[clever wasp]

is there any class that dosnt use it?

[red tendon]

Yea I just coined mythic gaze

And won the other trinket via roll of Chin

Both my strongest for now

But ill try to get Solarflare since I already coined there twice

[blissful hinge]

!log https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/76bBxK3RXVdFpmDq?fight=23&type=casts&source=539&view=timeline

[stuck sparrow]

got my gaze start of april

[soft abyss]

Plume should be much better than prism

[wide heath]

hey guys is FB rotation anything different or its the same status quo

[river wing]

welp, that's the raiding season over for now
looks good enough to me

[vapid sundial]

!tricks

[ornate heath]

Auto Tricks on tank Addon - TankMD

[frail veldt]

different

#outlaw-faq

FB has different builder and spender rules

[wide heath]

ah I see thank you

[frail veldt]

most based m+ dungeon score

[copper radish]

Got the same X feed as me 😂

[frail veldt]

lol this was just shared to me in another disc

miss me with X

but fr though fuck Seat

[cerulean portal]

[frail veldt]

the first pull is fun and everything after that is just downhill

[random cosmos]

hey guys! new here trying to figure out some things, coming from sub/assa and i was wondering if its ok to macro AR with pot or guidon

didnt find it on faq and just took the opportunity to ask here

[cerulean portal]

why guidon

@ zac ffs

[random stirrup]

i actually like the trash in seat

[random cosmos]

instead of which trink?

[random stirrup]

1st and 3rd boss can suck it though

[heavy shadow]

Is there a trick to good parse on Beloran? I guess doing the fight properly, not egg burst?

[red tendon]

Got Mythic Blazing Sunclaws weapon via coining Skyreach. But that weapon doesnt beat my crafted weapon, even if I remove embelish

[still matrix]

Is there ever a situation where rangers-captains is actually good or nah?

[river wing]

try simming with another embel in another slot

[red tendon]

I did with cloak and arcanoweave, but it prefer crafted cloak without embel and weapon with embel over Blazing Sunclaws + Cloak with embel

[inland acorn]

It is good if you dont have gaze / plume / flare

[inner meadow]

yo is there a way to check how low % the egg was on belo ren through logs? i can't seem to find it

[buoyant cosmos]

Maybe replay

[safe pasture]

is there any ench or something we can use to proc the effect off voidsong chain?

like some sort of shadow damage on hit or something

[arctic hollow]

Fatebound does cosmic damage

Some plate gloves in Trium do shadow but i dont think any leather

[safe pasture]

doesnt it have to be shadow specific?

sadge

[arctic hollow]

Cosmic is part shadow

[safe pasture]

oh snap fr?

[arctic hollow]

Yeah and it procs enough to cap the necklace proc in ST

In aoe you cant get as many proc as sub, th eproc is probably / target and we dont have black powder

[safe pasture]

ty very helpful!

[arctic merlin]

Cosmic should be all damage except physical

[near osprey]

do parses count for down phase on chimerus heroic?

or just adds in up phase

[formal thunder]

maybe I'm the problem in seat

I've been trying to get this key on 19 for 4 days now

I haven't seen the endboss all of today or yesterday

it must be my fault that tank pulls absolute doodoo

no other explanation

[vivid vessel]

is this new

main warcraft channel having a random streamer on

i have never seen that

kinda cool

is there some sort of event going on at the world of warcraft company video game or what

[mellow thicket]

where do i find the current differences in damage between fate bound, and trickster for dungeons?

[hollow sonnet]

this is the second time the official WoW twitch channel streams banshers and his comp doing high keys i believe. no event just random. last time the POV was woxtoxic

[soft musk]

@vivid vessel why do you open with killing spree in AA but not in seat?

[vivid vessel]

oh really

why them

are thye friend of bobby

[vivid vessel]

seat is insta packed

aa takes forever

[gray mortar]

Does anyone think its worth taking Blackjack over Tricks? Or if playing with bear, you gotta tricks?

[buoyant cosmos]

American favoritism

[vivid vessel]

outlaw cant play without tricks

you insta take agro every pack

the spec does too much damage instantly

there is no spec like that in the game

outlaw press one gcd and you are instantly at your peak

its not designed to be played without tricks

[glass mortar]

outlaw played without perma tricks for like 20 years bozo

[gray mortar]

Thats fair. I've been goofing with Assa and blackjack is so helpful but I havent tried it on outlaw cause I have died to intial aggro so much

[vivid vessel]

he asked about no tricks at all lil bro

[glass mortar]

we had this fancy technology called waiting patiently for your tank to be done establishing threat

[vivid vessel]

its a chocie node

bozo

[gray mortar]

This guy stinks frfr

[glass mortar]

smh the zoomers just wanna press buttons 24/7

[vivid vessel]

weran stfu !

[glass mortar]

go take a picture of the sky

look at google maps

[vivid vessel]

show me your gear weran

[glass mortar]

m+ was meant to be savored

[gray mortar]

Bro probably still says "Combat Rogue"

[glass mortar]

says? i still play combat rogue mf

i think i do 1 sec

let me see if pandaria is still installed

[vivid vessel]

weran help me pick vault

what do i take

[gray mortar]

Savoring M+ is doing the most damage and killing big mfers

[glass mortar]

6k gold

[leaden sonnet]

Why is it even a choice node to begin with, why cant we have nice things

[vivid vessel]

only interesting talent in the rogue tree

and we cant ever take it

[glass mortar]

280 ilvl checking in

[leaden sonnet]

(as in why isnt blackjack somewhere else)

[glass mortar]

i havent played the game in 2 weeks

i uninstalled

[vivid vessel]

same as perma tricks btw eleem

[glass mortar]

sub expires in a week

rip pandaria

[leaden sonnet]

Speed shroud too

[vivid vessel]

still cant believe the best rogue talent ever got

is locked to trickster

ye speed shroud

also a good example

kinda xdd if you ask me

[glass mortar]

nah peak was when

2 specs in the game had long arms

one was outlaw

one was feralk