#outlaw

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unkempt dew
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Ooh damn

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Will it tab back to the original target? Or do i have to do that myself?

gaunt phoenix
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it does

unkempt dew
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Nice!

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Thanks Solo!

gaunt phoenix
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it's very comfy for rando kicks but you should still have normal kick bound

unkempt dew
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Will do!

cerulean portal
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#showtooltip Kick
/cast [@focus,exists,nodead,harm] Kick
/stopmacro [@focus,exists,nodead,harm]
/focus target
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast Kick
/target focus
/clearfocus
/startattack

unkempt dew
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What is the difference between this one and the one solo shared?

cerulean portal
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it has startattack OMEGAKEKW

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prio focus if u have one

unkempt dew
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Aah oke thanks!

gaunt phoenix
kindred nacelle
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is there a way to show opportunity stacks like combo points show up? Much easier to see than a tiny number

cerulean portal
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i miss WA besad

river wing
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ngl the end result of WA removal ended up being like
strictly negative

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and I say this as someone who never really had a complicated setup or anything

gaunt phoenix
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yep

cerulean portal
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yes yes

kindred nacelle
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I'm about to do something stupid like make a python script that reads the stack count and shows me the boxes I want to see on an overlay. If I'm banned so be it.

kindred nacelle
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the entire wow population is careening to age 50 and they're trying to get us to read a 6 point font stack counter on our 48" 4k monitors.

hollow temple
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making buff stacks into resource bars?

kindred nacelle
compact mountain
kindred nacelle
cerulean portal
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can u make a script that will drop gaze for me

runic stream
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would you take your bis ring from the vault even if it is a dps loss with your current gear?

gaunt phoenix
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what is the bis ring?

runic stream
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signet

gaunt phoenix
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unless you can get mythic lura helm, i don't think making that ring work will be significantly different than your current setup

runic stream
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hmm okay thanks for the advice then i'll probably take the socket

rich basin
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why do i have to slice and dice in the opener?

viscid scaffold
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does dslice work for otlw?

rich basin
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won't it be active when i dispatch?

gaunt phoenix
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dispatch would consume supercharger

runic stream
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yeah you want to spend those supercharger combo points on between the eyes

rich basin
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so it's fine to spend on on slice and dice

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and the other one on bte

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aight, ty

runic stream
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it wont be consumed by slice and dice

gaunt phoenix
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no snd does not consume supercharger

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also if you would have dispatched it is slightly delayed cause you need to blade rush, blade flurry

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while snd is immediate before the pull

rich basin
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i will try again

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maybe i didn't see properly

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oh yeah it doesn't

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mb

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"Damaging"

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my bad

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thank you guys

vivid vessel
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@keen belfry i think the cartel has invaded my server lmao

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all the crafters disapeared

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now i just have this guy

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20k HOLY

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i reported him for child abuse

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now i dont have any crafters on my server anymore but it was worth it

cerulean portal
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WAT

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ppl craft for free

rich basin
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btw, we really don't have any macros, do we?

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i see most things are on gcd

gaunt palm
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Engi head Zac? That is not on the bis list smh my headset

cerulean portal
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this guy has no chill

vivid vessel
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maybe i dont get engi head tho

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seems like no one can craft it

gray mortar
vivid vessel
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if the kick is before focus then how are you ever kicking your focus

rich basin
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u double tap it

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not sure if question was serious or not xD

cerulean portal
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idk how to answear that question

gray mortar
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I wanna hit it once to set focus when starting a pull, then hit it again when I need to kick.

river wing
cerulean portal
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WAT

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i wouldnt pay 5k

gray mortar
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Obvi this is just me being mad lazy and not wanting a second bind

cerulean portal
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bruh

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make em craft for free

vivid vessel
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its important

cerulean portal
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i do that all the time

river wing
cerulean portal
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1k is max

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i payed

pastel sierra
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My max is like 2.5k start of season

river wing
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I mean
I spent 300k getting all of my crafters in order in MN
I do gotta make that money back somehow

river wing
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there are no good crafts
other than the set mail

pastel sierra
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There was an evening on EU where i made 1k per acuity of rendorei r1 craft

cerulean portal
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yall need to learn how to talk to ppl

river wing
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everything else is just general stuff like consumables or normal weps

cerulean portal
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just be nice, make a joke get a free craft ez pez

river wing
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nobody's asked to craft for even less

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and some people legit just say "I'll give you 10k if I have the craft in the next 5 mins"

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idk
this game is drowning you in gold
the majority of my supply isn't even crafting-based, I just did weeklies/WSq on 4-5 chars for a couple months in TWW S2 and I think I made a million off that alone

proven ocean
rich basin
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Do i ever wait for 20 stacks of zero in before i bte?

vivid vessel
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no

gaunt phoenix
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i tried that once

frozen quest
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Im paying my wow sub monthly just from gear crafting - while trying to join lfg keys

gaunt phoenix
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not good

rich basin
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so just send them

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aight

gaunt phoenix
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if bte didnt have a dmg buff

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prolly would

soft abyss
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Which kinda covers all the options, but this season up until 19's I just tab kick

dim parrot
soft abyss
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Yeah there is one

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but random kicks

vivid vessel
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ye thats different

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you still need afocus

soft abyss
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It just tabs kick and tabs back

vivid vessel
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also i was using that macro since tww

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you wont convince me nawoh didnt steal it from me

gray mortar
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idk if they redid the tab targetting system, but it feels better with tab kicking

frozen quest
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Mouseover Focus + Target Kick and Focus Kick Macro is the only thing u Need for wow

soft abyss
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It was always good, actually tww felt a bit better

frozen quest
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All These shid Kick macros are useless

soft abyss
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Just put a modifier and you are ok

gray mortar
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Just in Pit, i went to tab kick a netherburst, and hit some random caster instead, so looking for someway to not be a shitter

vivid vessel
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tab targetting got worse in midnight for sure

cerulean portal
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how do i look guys

dim parrot
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Is it even a good macro

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I just focus

soft abyss
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I spent 5min with chatgpt and had a better one

vivid vessel
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i mean i have been using it for a while

dim parrot
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But sometimes I need swap targ and lose damage

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Cuz I do it slow

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Guys I found out I had 100 parse on 18 AA

frozen quest
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Yes u Kick random stuff I don’t wanna Kick like if u use that macro it prob wont kick the 1 cast u want to interrupt it just kicks 1 random cast maybe u lucky maybe not

dim parrot
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Kinda cool

gray mortar
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I'm just gonna buy a racing sim foot pedal, and use the brake to focus, and the gas to kick

soft abyss
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Zac you using mousover?

dim parrot
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But nobody play 18 so that’s why

vivid vessel
soft abyss
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ah I was watching your stream and it seemed like you did

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Just wanted to check

frozen quest
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Put your question Right

soft abyss
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If you are not premade, focus kicking is weird just tab kick and you are ok . We have 2-3 more stops who cares

dim parrot
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Lots of packs only have 1 maybe 2 casters

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So focus kick is always good I think

viscid scaffold
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are u guys sending guidon with cds whenever up?

dim parrot
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Why would I tab and lose damage

proven ocean
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Bro is the king of losing prio dmg

cerulean portal
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i use addon for focus kick

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i forgot its name

proven ocean
vivid vessel
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it doesnt kick randoms

proven ocean
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Everyone has focus kick macro

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Wdym then

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Wtf does it do

vivid vessel
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and i have been using trhat macro since tww s3

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its a tab target

proven ocean
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Sounds like a headache

vivid vessel
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its not

dim parrot
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How does it know to tab to the casting mob

light mountain
proven ocean
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Why would u tab target when u already know what mob ur kicking

dim parrot
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It just does?

vivid vessel
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its lovely this expac because idk the kick cds of my friend

vivid vessel
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i use it in packs with multiple caster

proven ocean
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U guys dont assign ur kicks now or what

vivid vessel
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no

hollow temple
proven ocean
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?

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Ur skills went down

viscid scaffold
proven ocean
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Aintnowa

vivid vessel
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its too hard without having kick tracker

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no

dim parrot
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Nice ok I’ll bind

vivid vessel
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you just dont hav e a kick tracker

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if you assign kicks

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and the guy doesnt have his kick

proven ocean
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Ur overthinking it

vivid vessel
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it will just go trough

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no im not

proven ocean
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He will have kick if hes assigned correctly

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What

vivid vessel
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we dont miss kicks

proven ocean
vivid vessel
light mountain
vivid vessel
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what if there is an aoe cc that goes off

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or whatever

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and his kick get eaten

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before you could know with kick tracker

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dw about us

proven ocean
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Back when i pushed i never checked anyone’s kick in my life

vivid vessel
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we dont have issues with kick

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ye you are a noob

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its ok

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also this isnt true

proven ocean
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I only assigned to people’s kicks

proven ocean
cerulean portal
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here we go again

vivid vessel
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for 1 week

proven ocean
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Entire season

vivid vessel
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hm

proven ocean
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U only passed me when i stopped

light mountain
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🍿

proven ocean
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I pushed for r1 all players btw

vivid vessel
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i only started playing with a group when you stopped tho

proven ocean
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Not r1 rogues

vivid vessel
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ok

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you are very good at wow

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i gap you lil bud

proven ocean
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Ye keep on calling people noobs

vivid vessel
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noob

proven ocean
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When ur literally worse

vivid vessel
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this is noob talk !

cerulean portal
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you r both amazing

vivid vessel
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someone put this noob in his place

vivid vessel
cerulean portal
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the biggest dicks here

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i mean

proven ocean
cerulean portal
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what did i say

vivid vessel
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someone @ me when ross isnt washed up anymore

proven ocean
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No one talks to u anyway

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Ye look gingi is washed up because he isn’t pushing now!

hollow temple
cerulean portal
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s1 ends in august right?

errant berry
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did a key with shantiana her advice was dont follow ravenholdts advice LMAO

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sigh

vivid vessel
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i mean she follows ravenhold advice herself

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she just is kinda a hater cause she got banned long time ago

errant berry
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yah i read the lore

lucid sparrow
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who the fuck is ross?

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@vivid vessel

vivid vessel
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random

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ignore him

vivid vessel
lucid sparrow
cerulean portal
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whos shantiana

vivid vessel
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outlaw streamer

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she was playing mostly during sl i think

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then she stopped

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or maybe df actually

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i dont remember

frozen quest
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Funny Part about lura and sub is - thats its dog on lura if u miss align the kicks in crystals and don’t have Dance + sectech for it guess it’s rly a outlaw fight

vivid vessel
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i mean

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outlaw doesnt do crystal damage either

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after a while i was almost not bfing anymore anywya

cerulean portal
frozen quest
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Sometimes I start on first crystals with top 2 300k and somehow people Kick insta and no sectech rdy and im down to 190k

vivid vessel
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only boss damage matter

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if you look at overall damage on lura you are a cuck imo

frozen quest
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Gotta Check that quick mom

vivid vessel
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i did

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spam and child abuse

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hope more people report him !

keen belfry
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Good

vivid vessel
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i dont like when the cartels take over !

frozen quest
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Can craft free on kazzak leather gear

cerulean portal
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for child abuse right?

frozen quest
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Top 3 on Boss dmg on lura havoc is somehow higher then me 😂 - checked overall from 74 p1 wipes

cerulean portal
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man

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i wanna do lura myth too :<

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atleast belo

gaunt phoenix
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put me in coach

errant berry
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im stuck on dragons M tho

errant fractal
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I'm having a hard time improving with this spec, how do I even tell whether I got unlucky procs in a key or if I'm just horrible at the gamecatgasp I miss details so much it was so much easier to learn

rugged wigeon
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dw bro im doing tank damage on this spec too

gaunt phoenix
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i'm not really interested in entertaining what shantiana might critique about ravenholdt advice

her gear and talents are the same so it's prob some rotation thing

errant berry
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o.o

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didnt mention anything at all just asked in general since we ran the key together

gaunt phoenix
cerulean portal
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or we r

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i forgot

errant berry
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i saw pallys easier than dragons now

cerulean portal
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yes

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but we r not raid focused

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just gearing alts atm

uncut stratus
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eyes of the eagle bis or are people doing SM's alactrity for more haste

gaunt phoenix
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eagle is rly good

uncut stratus
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yeah thinking about switching to eagle, gonna lose a bit of haste... at 22% now without haste flask and in ST sims wants me to take crit flask and thief's versatility... i get the feeling if i switch to eagle then that'll change

errant berry
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how does one do a thread for log advices maybe perhaps

gaunt phoenix
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with !log

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but it's just volunteer

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with logs u cant see when cooldowns are ready

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so there's only so much

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you can tell

quaint sable
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You mean to tell me people arent doing the math and counting up all cps spent

errant berry
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!log

uncut stratus
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@gaunt phoenix it's as simple as this for simming enchants and gems right? Selecting all likely options? I feel like every time I've ran top gear with multiple enchants/gems selected it's always just kept what I already have

gaunt phoenix
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there's no way eagle loses

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it's 2% crit damage

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unless you are severely undergeared

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would just select eagle

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u also need this ticked

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for it to consider what you have selected

uncut stratus
uncut stratus
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I wonder how much DPS I've been missing out on that whole time

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feel like it should be enabled by default, otherwise whats the point of selecting shit lol

gaunt phoenix
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i agree

vivid vessel
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while most of the time you never even swap enchant or gems in a season

cerulean portal
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why sim tho

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its bis enchant

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its like simming gaze

uncut stratus
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which also makes me lose thief's versa

vivid vessel
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character explode if you go under 22% haste

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be careful

uncut stratus
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i get the sarcasm but im just being careful

cerulean portal
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LUL

uncut stratus
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Yeah so it does have me take Eyes of the Eagle, but still take crit flask. insane but fuck it?

rich basin
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Is there a list

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where i can see

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what i can use evansion on m+?

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or tips/tricks?

vivid vessel
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not many things

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foragers in academy

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can actually pre evasion the dog jump in seat

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on 2nd boss

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if you know it has high chance to go on you

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and its bad overlap

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can be good

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in general you can evasion basically every jumper mob

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leapers

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like the ones in pit

hasty warren
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hi pirates

vagrant saddle
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u can evasion the fixate in pit and sit on boss

vivid vessel
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generally also everything that is a shoot

errant berry
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how to see swirlies when big smoke covering everyshit

vivid vessel
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like cavern shooterman, or the ones in windrunner

vivid vessel
errant berry
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o i had that in high

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ty

vivid vessel
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i learned recently you imune the frontal on first boss cavern

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which is very good !

uncut stratus
# hasty warren hi pirates

we're not pirates anymore, trickster doesn't have a pirate fantasy and fatebound is more like "outlaw" with tumble weed animations

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spec identity crisis

uncut stratus
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yes, you're right actually, sorry

cerulean portal
rich basin
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do we ever use shiv? xD

cerulean portal
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we have shiv?

rich basin
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m+ build i got from wowhead does

uncut stratus
gaunt phoenix
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its just a soothe

rich basin
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tf is a soothe

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never heard that term

burnt tangle
uncut stratus
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thats what shiv does lol

gaunt phoenix
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soothe is a druid spell that dispells enrage effects

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so the word soothe became synonymous with anti enrage

rich basin
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got it

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ty

vivid vessel
cinder relic
gaunt phoenix
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true

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ty foreverwisdom

quaint sable
ashen void
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what's that called, when the more general name for a thing is referred to by a specific type of that thing?

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Metonomy?

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Synecdoche?

proven ocean
trim harbor
ashen void
gaunt phoenix
river wing
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actually
evasion dodges Maisara arrow storm
but not WS arrow storm, I think?

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how is this reasonable

livid pewter
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any suggestions on voidstalker trinket? only upgrade i could pick from vault since i carry gace+solar hero ilvl

gaunt phoenix
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dont think it is worth

viscid scaffold
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what do i do with guidon on otlw

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off cd?

gaunt phoenix
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ye

viscid scaffold
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so its just extra regen + the nice agi>

gaunt phoenix
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it's a bit more atk speed which is more zero in procs

viscid scaffold
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more zero?

gaunt phoenix
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'zero in' the talent

viscid scaffold
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i was just looking for it and couldnt find it

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so my game crashed

viscid scaffold
gaunt phoenix
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@vivid vessel huge

inland acorn
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11 dps ?!

vivid vessel
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guidon with ks tho solo

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that one at least make sense

cerulean portal
random stirrup
gaunt phoenix
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Wtf

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im so 2000 and late

random stirrup
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im pretty sure i cooked that sim too and it was like 0.3% gain

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when i fixed it

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cant remember anymore what the problem was CAUGHT

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maybe sending in the last couple seconds of ar instead of holding idk

cerulean portal
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do i trust this?

gaunt phoenix
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ye

rich basin
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in the rotation, i don't see coup de grace

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is it just normal dispatch?

gaunt phoenix
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it is automatically casted as dispatch

rich basin
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ye ik

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but in rotation

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it's just the same

gaunt phoenix
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yea its the same prio as dispatch

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how tf do you check the cd of a specific item in apl

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have i never had to do this before

keen belfry
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you just do

random stirrup
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Does cooldown.remains not work for trinkets

gaunt phoenix
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it does

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i thought you could only do it by slot trinket.2.cooldown.remains

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but you can trinket.light_company_guidon.cooldown.remains

hardy thicket
cerulean portal
random stirrup
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Don’t think this will cause that but just to keep in mind

gaunt phoenix
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oh ye that can happen

steel shadow
uncut stratus
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does darkmoon sigil hunt/void always sim correctly? bc hunt gives secondary stats depending on target. on my 295 crafted OH hunt simmed higher than void, but i see void is the recommended embellishment

gaunt phoenix
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in sim it averages the effect based on all the raid bosses combined

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void/hunt should generally be the same or mildly different

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i dont recommend one over the other in particular

uncut stratus
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alright then, and ill sim it but im assuming once I get a 298 weapon to replace my crafted 295 weapon, it should be 2x focusing iris? idk how i feel about that because all 3 of my jewelery slots are myth track

cerulean portal
gaunt phoenix
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I went hunt cause it simmed slightly higher at the time

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never changed it

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it is more common to have 2 rando leather items with 2x arcanoweave

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as opposed to focusing iris

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cuz we bonus roll jewelry out of pit

uncut stratus
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ye exactly, i got neck n ring from pit lol

gaunt phoenix
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Iris vs arcanoweave are also not notably different

uncut stratus
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kk

gusty pagoda
gaunt phoenix
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it is the best trinket from M+, but shoulders are a high value stat item

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like, if you had mythic prism and mythic shoulders at 1/6, it is better to spend crests to upgrade shoulders first

gusty pagoda
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yeah and my haste is also really low at like 16% with consumables so it probably values shoulders even higher because of that

vapid sundial
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16%!

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with pot!

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good lord

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bro is starving

gusty pagoda
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yeah it feels horrible to play xd

gusty pagoda
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I just realized that the trinket can be upgraded to 298 so it would be the highest upgrade anyway

vapid sundial
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more mastery than haste

gusty pagoda
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I got 7 bonus rolls left and I've only used 2 so far in pit of saron so if I can get into some groups I can probably fix my stats

gaunt phoenix
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it's awkward because Mythic Prism = Heroic Plume

gusty pagoda
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ye I hate how much better raid trinkets are as someone who just wants to play m+

zinc briar
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how is your experience pugging as outlaw?

gusty pagoda
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Only started gearing my rogue last week so pretty scuffed

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I've been running my own +10 key over and over trying to get pit of saron

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can't dream of getting accepted into 10's at 270 ilvl outlaw

keen belfry
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10s-12s are unironically flooded rn with peopole farming crests/cores so unless youre max itll be a little hard

zinc briar
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im tired of queue time for a 20-21

gusty pagoda
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yeah , on my other characters I fix that by going heal or tank

zinc briar
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its impossible to be picked even if u link logs being top dps of other keys

keen belfry
zinc briar
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ppl dont check anything

gusty pagoda
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shouldn't you have an easier time getting into physical comps?

keen belfry
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most ppl dont play phys

zinc briar
gaunt phoenix
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wish outlaw brought something

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numbing poison HOLY

keen belfry
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it is funny that all specs in phys comp bring giga raid buff utility etc

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and we are brought because we mesh with their raid buffs

uncut stratus
radiant wyvern
gaunt phoenix
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true..

quiet root
keen belfry
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yeah

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when i think most pug groups would do better with a dk or ret in that spot

radiant wyvern
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surv probably also better

keen belfry
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like imagine tww s3 havoc instead of outlaw

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+2 key levels

quiet root
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don't tell the other classes though

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hard enough to get into pugs as is

radiant wyvern
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pls crit raid buff ?

gaunt phoenix
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monsters have -5% crit chance against you

cerulean portal
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i found zac's picture

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wanna see?

radiant wyvern
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crit + some shitty version of instant poison procs for spells and abilities

keen belfry
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do they crit

gaunt phoenix
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idk

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i think they can crit tanks

keen belfry
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lemme guess the sim cant tell you...

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cant even tell the cd of things

radiant wyvern
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aren't tanks crit immune

gaunt phoenix
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idk

cerulean portal
radiant wyvern
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they used to be atleast

gaunt phoenix
keen belfry
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how

cerulean portal
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LUL

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i knew u gonna say it

outer meteor
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guys i gambled and i lost

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no seat helmet this week

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ig im crafting

keen belfry
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mhm

dim parrot
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Is okay

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I still need kricks and solar flare before I start going for helm

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Maybe boots I have some shid mastery boots

cerulean portal
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why ppl play fb on chim myth?

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should i?

timid portal
topaz cobalt
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where can i get someones outlaw profile? I'm really needing an ui or a way to track what buff i got from roll the bones as finding it in my base blizzar ui buffs mid combat is hard

timid portal
topaz cobalt
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can you give me link or twitch name? idk who zac is

timid portal
fair charm
cerulean portal
#

i lost 50/50 on chim

#

got the other trinket :<

fair charm
#

I’m surprised that tricket is even decent. It reads so bad. A chance to tickle you 5 times and then a small punch, repeat.

cerulean portal
#

i wanna cry

dull geyser
#

why am i POOLING FOR ADR NOW?

#

its sad.

bright lodge
#

How does sim calculate Void Stalker's Contract? It sims 1k dps more over guidon for DSlice

dull geyser
#

@keen belfry how cringe is it if i just forgo my sims and just put haste gems on for energy, this is beans

keen belfry
#

my sim says use vers gems but i say no

#

im like, 990 haste buffed or something

strong halo
#

whats the website to see boe's on all servers

outer meteor
#

did u fix ur haste

random stirrup
keen belfry
outer meteor
#

ig ill be at the same

#

once i upgrade my pit neck

#

still using hero salad one

keen belfry
#

i felt like i am back to doing dmg

uncut stratus
#

awang i just realized you're one of the outlow chads

keen belfry
#

i did like 231 in AA with BF turning off on a few pulls

uncut stratus
#

saw your name pop up in WCL like awangawangaw

keen belfry
#

mhm if u see abunch of awangs in a name

#

thats me

uncut stratus
#

are tomel and wox in here too lol

#

or active at least

keen belfry
#

tomelvis is zac

#

wox rarely here

uncut stratus
#

lmao had no idea he was tomelvis

twilit axle
frail veldt
#

ofc

uncut stratus
#

nah with 990 haste surely he's going crit flask

twilit axle
#

Sim is telling me Crit and I am at like 836......but like still seriously energy starved sometimes.

keen belfry
twilit axle
uncut stratus
twilit axle
#

I can get to 1001 with haste flask.

keen belfry
#

just haste flask, wahts ur crit

frail veldt
#

haste plays better

#

I think sim undervalues haste past cap

twilit axle
keen belfry
#

dslice sim is short

frail veldt
#

^

twilit axle
#

This is oils + haste flask

frail veldt
#

it doesnt sim the misery of having no tea charges and lowrolling

gaunt phoenix
#

it does because of frontloaded thistle tea

keen belfry
frail veldt
#

custom dslice 30 minutes?

gaunt phoenix
#

droute

uncut stratus
#

so even at that much haste yall still going haste flask, even when sims say crit?

twilit axle
#

1122 crit, 1001 Haste, 296 Mast, 196 Vers

#

Probs looking at crafting a helm since its all uncapped.

keen belfry
uncut stratus
keen belfry
#

can have less haste

#

id even bet u can go like 22% haste on non BF upkeep bosses

gaunt phoenix
#

but haste reduces the effect of rng, which is modeled by sim and feels better

even if you did 40 billion pulls and haste flask is a worse global average

uncut stratus
#

yeah i noticed when i simmed 2t and 3t, it wanted haste. on all ST fights, called for crit

twilit axle
#

We just killed paladins last night and towards the end of the fight I had actually no energy

keen belfry
twilit axle
#

Thought about swapping acro strikes to Dancing Steel but it seemed worse so I didnt

keen belfry
#

that fight just blows dick for outlaw

#

quite unfun

#

at our current design, we dont function on bosses like paladins

twilit axle
keen belfry
#

u can ignore the fart cloud

#

the buff refreshes itself

twilit axle
#

Right, more so the visuals

keen belfry
#

oh yeah, fight kinda cringe

twilit axle
#

Cant see fuck all under the obelisks + add circles + smoke

#

Like pepe_KMS

keen belfry
#

i kinda like guidon

twilit axle
#

Raiding not fun atm the guild is extending lockouts and no more reclear fun.

keen belfry
#

i like pressing a trinket

twilit axle
keen belfry
#

not sure if placebo but i gained 110hate and am using guidon this week and has just felt much better

gaunt phoenix
#

it's not placebo

#

haste is very good when you need energy

#

it is still possibly true that if you did 40 billion pulls your total average is worse

#

which is basically what sim would say

keen belfry
#

i felt like i was able to press buttons

#

basically all key

gaunt phoenix
#

ye

keen belfry
#

not sure if in my mind but these last 2 weeks felt so bad

#

i only lost like 50 haste in those 2 weeks i thnk

#

but this reset was good

kind otter
#

pirates im done (no flask)

keen belfry
#

absolutely wild gear

random stirrup
#

no alleria weapon..

kind otter
#

dont need the crit

gaunt phoenix
#

the alternative is something is bugged with energy, in game or sim, that we dont know about

keen belfry
#

it felt unusual but i tend to think about the low lows

#

like legit the last 2 weeks felt wild to me

snow vessel
outer meteor
keen belfry
#

but all in all, iwould recommend more haste than what the sims say to basically everyone

snow vessel
#

for me

cerulean portal
#

i just tried fb in raid

#

0 energy

fervent garden
random stirrup
keen belfry
paper grove
#

anyone able to look at logs for glaring issues? My logs are mostly like lower keys and just random pugs but I still feel I should be doing a little more dmg

random stirrup
#

i was just trying to be a hater

snow vessel
#

Vor dagger just randomly goated for me oh

proven ocean
#

Hi purple dog

#

How are me

#

You*

outer meteor
snow vessel
#

I am good

keen belfry
#

yeah i was frying that key i think

snow vessel
#

I am playing my Enh in alt raid today

proven ocean
#

Nice

#

I might come back to wow soon

outer meteor
#

i had a 220 something

proven ocean
#

Or just completely quit

outer meteor
#

but i had a crazy bad 1st pull

proven ocean
#

50/50 chance

#

Not sure yet

keen belfry
#

yeah AA a bit dumb, a lot of ur dmg can be first pull

proven ocean
#

I feel like its just sad that i invested so much time into this game and let it all fade away

outer meteor
#

i had a crazy crawth tho

#

i was at 137k i think

#

at the end

dull geyser
#

its so weird. i went down like 110 haste from diff trinket, and now i cant hit any buttons.. like what?

keen belfry
#

how end a t137

#

tf

outer meteor
#

perma

#

jackpot

proven ocean
#

Its like studying neurosurgery with a doctorate degree then quitting

outer meteor
#

whole fight

proven ocean
keen belfry
#

ithink ur rtb is bugged on crawth

#

dont u always jacpot it

#

i did a crwath yesterday i didnt press KIR

outer meteor
#

actually i lied

proven ocean
#

Ngl ui setup is whats preventing me from playing wow

outer meteor
#

it was 131

#

at end

proven ocean
#

What a headache

keen belfry
#

131 is wild

proven ocean
#

They just made the game more annoying to setup

outer meteor
#

it was

proven ocean
#

And market it as noob friendly

outer meteor
#

3:37

#

crawth

#

xdddddd

keen belfry
#

i guess i went to dmg amp at 118 on mine, but then was 2 buff - 1 buff - 2 buff and ended 117

slim hare
#

its worse inh every aspect

proven ocean
#

Blizzard is actually stupid

slim hare
#

less accessibility

proven ocean
#

For thinking its easier and better

#

Like

slim hare
#

less option

proven ocean
#

Its diabolically bad

slim hare
#

less everything

#

except bug

keen belfry
#

i still need to find out how outlaw is very much oversimming in ST

#

trickster oversims ST for sure

proven ocean
#

Instead more older players quit because of the stuff they keep restricting

slim hare
#

you have way more bugs and you have those more often cause of pointless update

#

its crazy they didnt pull the ripcord yet

#

i would love a peak to their metric to justify no*t pulling the ripcord yet

outer meteor
#

boss died like 20-30 sec after amp

#

so dps is gonna be higher

keen belfry
#

like i left crawth with 2 and a half tea charges

#

somethings changed!

random stirrup
#

arcui was pain and misery and took hours

keen belfry
#

dropping arcui was too easy

#

i was gonna go base cdm + wangbar

#

until i found ayije

#

ayijiecdm good

random stirrup
#

acdm had the easiest time swapping everything over to new specs of all the cdm addons i tried

#

takes like 5mins

keen belfry
#

yeah

outer meteor
#

im still using bcdm

#

cause im lazy

keen belfry
#

i dont like buffs that move

outer meteor
#

im used to it at this point

twilit axle
#

Wish blizz would fix RTB disappearing from my CDM.

gaunt phoenix
#

ye i hadnt seen it in a while

#

then it happened like 3 times last raid

#

weird

random stirrup
#

it's not just rtb 😭 my buffs on other specs just vanish all the time

#

its so infuriating

fair iron
#

my blade flurry does it now too

#

sadge

gaunt phoenix
#

🤔

#

so you should fake meakaura your entire buff bar

#

and observe

keen belfry
#

whats everyone biggest mistake as outlaw, i press ace resets at 5 way too much

random stirrup
#

not pressing blade rush instantly

keen belfry
#

i am quite bad at making myself build at 5 during ace resets cuz just seems like gogogo spend spend

gaunt phoenix
#

i think i have AR ready at like 2cp but i already had a builder in queue so i delay AR by a finisher

random stirrup
#

br just feels terrible not building cp or spending it

fair iron
#

that time when you slam KiR as it comes off CD a millisecond after your jackpot expires

random stirrup
#

and so i dont watch the cd close enough

nova sinew
keen belfry
#

all my issues are 5cp related i think

random stirrup
#

and then i build once after its ready

random stirrup
gaunt phoenix
#

pressing a blank kir is exit and uninstall territory

#

it's over

keen belfry
#

i did that yeserday in my aa

fair iron
#

"no, I totally got this"

nova sinew
#

i use blade rush while forgetting its a charge sometimes

random stirrup
#

nah years of havoc trained me for this

#

i will never die this way

gaunt phoenix
#

im gonna look at energy stuffs to try and find something bugged

if anything i dont think its a talent but just the regular passive regen

keen belfry
#

dont judge me

nova sinew
#

what we dont see is the jackpot in your buff bar that is gone from your cdm, right?

#

surely

keen belfry
#

no I kir after cockpot expires

#

jackpot*

nova sinew
#

cockpot indeed

outer meteor
#

thought on finishing at 5 there

#

to kir jackpot

#

is that int

keen belfry
#

no u do that for sure

#

i was just brain fart out of melee range and thought i finished like twice

outer meteor
#

W

random stirrup
#

drop the reverse though

outer meteor
#

i ve done that so much

random stirrup
#

i wanna see the beautiful extend

gaunt phoenix
#

the pyramid of buffs

outer meteor
#

but i have the high ping cope!

random stirrup
#

okay i almost sent an emote that may not be suitable for ravenholdt

frail veldt
random stirrup
#

miss these days so much

frail veldt
#

so I build at 5

#

with KS up

gaunt phoenix
#

rip 0.3% dmg..

frail veldt
#

fr fr

random stirrup
fresh acorn
#

i fight the urge to KIR a 1 buff sometimes

outer meteor
frail veldt
#

^^^

#

dude same

outer meteor
#

so i miss out on a couple brs

frail veldt
#

something in my brain

outer meteor
#

a key

gaunt phoenix
#

sometimes i just randomly hit my roll for no reason at all and roll some shit away

outer meteor
#

ive gotten better at it now

frail veldt
#

LOOOOOOOL

outer meteor
#

but it used to be so bad

keen belfry
#

i die to blade rush still

outer meteor
#

i died to it yday

#

1st boss on sr

gaunt phoenix
#

brain said roll

outer meteor
#

br into chakram

frail veldt
#

idk why

fresh acorn
#

i still vanish when BTE is on cd

#

just hoping it works 1 time

outer meteor
#

@keen belfry im coming to grief ur key cuh

gaunt phoenix
#

i dont think i do that but i naturally press cds at high cps

keen belfry
#

whyd i press BR here?

outer meteor
#

LOL

#

thats a crazy press

inland cairn
#

ive done that too many times on skyreach first...

keen belfry
outer meteor
#

cmon man...

#

i need to get a better timer

#

on my nexus

#

actually nvm

#

my ws is shit

#

not nexus

keen belfry
#

i forget how many points exist just from better timer

outer meteor
#

my aa...

keen belfry
#

idk how to do AA faster

#

well i guess our arms warrior did 0 dmg in my 2nd aa yeterday

outer meteor
#

my skyreach was crazy fast

#

and i didnt even get good rolls either

#

was only at like 193k

keen belfry
#

only 193 he says

outer meteor
#

after turbo boost

#

thats normal no?

#

before it was crazy

keen belfry
#

i guess i aint been in there since

dim parrot
#

Bro just bragging

bronze robin
#

Is anyone bored? I need help. I'm going crazy trying to figure it out. I feel like my globals are somehow slower with bloodlust/AdR. In addition it seems like my spenders take forever to go off sometimes-- like my keyboard is covered in mud or something. I feel like I could be playing much faster... like am I missing a setting or something? I've tried adjust tolerance settings and changing the bindings (like for the spenders on my mouse) to keyboard binds as apposed to macro binds... I just don't know anymore lol

harsh forge
#

i miss undermine tier set

keen belfry
#

go for a walk thjen try to blast again hulkhands

#

maybe go for more thor hands instead too

bronze robin
#

lol fair

frail veldt
#

Also check you don't have any wack add-ons doing weird shit

#

Also raid can def be laggy

bronze robin
nocturne shuttle
potent latch
#

does anyone use vers flask for high keys? +20 and above

keen belfry
#

what haste u got

potent latch
#

25% with nelf

keen belfry
#

youre at 25% haste no flask?

#

respect

pastel cedar
nocturne shuttle
#

chinese diff

keen belfry
#

he has more ars = more attack speed = more zero in booom

gaunt phoenix
#

zero in procs probably

keen belfry
#

does ar affect zero in solo

#

id guess it does

#

but idk

gaunt phoenix
#

zero in + agility weapon enchant + gaze procs

#

if the stars align, boom boom

#

yes it does

pastel cedar
#

isnt zero in AA?

keen belfry
#

the guy had 7% more AR uptime as well

#

quite massive gap

gaunt phoenix
#

yes but it's on crit

pastel cedar
#

so switch enchant on wep and hope for procs?

gaunt phoenix
#

you have low haste so idk if you should change weapon enchant.

#

i'm just answering the question- why is max bte higher

#

it's because of procs

pastel cedar
#

got it

oak wraith
#

I have crafted sword, crafted dagger and myth track dagger, what should i upgrade with my voidshard? (I have already upgraded gaze)

gaunt phoenix
#

pit dagger should be slighty ahead of crafted dagger

modern shoal
#

Yo chat, new to Outlaw, any general tips ? I’ve watched guides and reread evything in the faq but some pulls I just do nothing. Like great procs and all and 50kdps. I feel like I’m missing something super obvious

gaunt phoenix
#

well, the most obvious thing would be maintaining blade flurry

#

youd' be surprised looking at vods and ppl go several globals without bf active

#

without bf you dont aoe at all

modern shoal
#

That was the first thing. Started just pressing it on cd

#

Is it ever worth to hold it for the combo points or just have it up

timid shoal
#

UHUH spoiled us

paper grove
gaunt phoenix
#

if it is not active, you must hit it

#

when it is already active, you use it as a cps builder

#

in aoe

#

(On st you dont use bf)

oak wraith
fluid vortex
#

are there any good options to reroll for weapon in dungs?

gaunt phoenix
#

yeah you should bonus roll all of pit really

oak wraith
#

I should note that i don't raid so only m+ gear and crafted gear is available

modern shoal
#

Makes sense, one of the guides I watched mentioned hitting while the tank is grouping is also important since this isent a burst class ?

oak wraith
gaunt phoenix
#

no, definitely not

oak wraith
rough oriole
#

You can yes

gaunt phoenix
#

i misread your question. i didnt know you didnt upgrade anything

#

upgrade mainhand

oak wraith
#

Ty ❤️

fluid vortex
paper grove
fluid vortex
#

alr

gaunt phoenix
#

outlaw needs to just use everything

#

adrenaline rush just makes you faster and is needed for loaded dice

#

At the start of the key, where you already have loaded dice from before the key, you can hold AR while the tank is gathering the first pull

#

but in general you dont hold stuff

pure folio
cerulean portal
#

both 285

#

should i craft a trinket?

gaunt phoenix
oak wraith
#

Craft trinket monkaGIGA

gaunt phoenix
#

no heroic gaze/plume?

cerulean portal
#

no

gaunt phoenix
#

rip

gusty pagoda
#

is this method patched yet? starege

gaunt phoenix
harsh forge
#

bros the boss dropping 5 pieces that will be bis for literally everyone in a .7 patch with random stats is sort of crazy right

gaunt phoenix
#

make sure you're tracking them

radiant wyvern
harsh forge
#

spend a bonus roll get the ring or necklace but it’s verse mastery

#

XDXD

uncut stratus
#

im boutta say fuck it and craft a helm, feel like that's the move until mask of darkest intent drops or seat helm on myth track in vault

#

fuck it, look like walk like smell like cash

gaunt phoenix
#

i think crafted helm is a good move

#

i'm not rolling the 14 items in seat

cerulean portal
paper grove
random stirrup
next shuttle
#

Hi, at higher keys is it better to use Atrophic poison?

paper grove
#

do we just sent an oppurtunity even at 5cps?

pure folio
pure folio
next shuttle
kindred nacelle
# hollow temple isn't there a way to do that with arcui or something

I just did it, and while the cooldown bar only shows how long opportunity has (and there is still a text based stack counter) you can set one color for 3 stacks and a threshold color for 6 stacks so you can bypass the number reading and rely on a color without focusing on it. I find this a lot easier for tracking.

uncut stratus
#

so i think crafted helm is great until l'ura helm or seat helm in vault

river wing
#

bloody hell
jackpot - triple - triple - jackpot - jackpot - triple
only for SOMEONE to fuck up and wipe us at 20%

modern shoal
#

Anyone know the %dmg difference between the rolls? Is that a thing

river wing
#

I mean it's not that straightforward

nimble cloud
#

is it possible to set up a sound for when your RtB buff ends? mayde an addon?

river wing
#

but basically 2 should almost double your damage due to combo speed and therefore increased CDR

uncut stratus
river wing
#

nah

#

1 - nothing
2 - gameplay enabled
3 - gameplay feels good
4 - is this what they call burst?

frail veldt
#

@vivid vessel @keen belfry didnt yall do this?

paper grove
#

They just need to get rid of the 1 roll

uncut stratus
#

I almost never get 1 rolls, but when you get em, you can really feel it

modern shoal
#

If I ever roll without the buff it’s a 1 roll

plain ravine
#

had a dungeon where i natty rolled jackpot like 4 times but other than that its basically always the minimum

uncut stratus
#

2-4 outside of loaded dice is a real blessing yeah, but honestly i feel it's pretty rare i get a 1

#

but also at the same time I've experienced several 2's with loaded dice lolol

#

feel like that's pretty fucking common

river wing
#

you have like
a 50% chance to roll a 2 with LD

paper grove
#

I really like this spec but my damage is all over the place. Partially me partially the class

river wing
#

practice makes perfect

#

even with like
2s all the way
you can do maybe 80% of best possible damage

paper grove
#

Yeah im just averaging a 65 ish, I know I can do better

peak holly
#

!def

ornate heathBOT
gusty pagoda
#

Is there also a spreadsheet for vanish use?

grizzled knot
#

Does evasion work for the 2nd boss fixate in pit?

gusty pagoda
#

yeah I do it all the time

inland acorn
short plover
#

is there still a possibility to create a channel to invstigate logs?

#

i can find the command

inland acorn
#

Its !log

ashen birch
#

if you have a 3stack of fth and its getting ready to expire while youre at 5cp and the only other builder off CD to press is SS, would you let it expire or cast the PS?

harsh forge
#

vibe decision

#

FTH should give us a little revolver animation with loaded bullets for the stacks so we can easily tell instead of just the red line

short plover
#

!log

wind pond
#

my tank accidentaly did the skyreach bird trick and the "fix" they implemented instakilled us all then spawned us so far under the ground that none of us can log in and unstuck doesn't work

#

this is podracing

timid idol
#

can u track trinkets

#

with cdm?

hardy vault
#

i cannot believe that my normal plume is still my best 2nd trinket for law

#

so fun that raid trinkets are broken again

median ocean
#

do we hold KS for AR window? cause right now im just sending it, but in log my ks does less dmg then others

glass mortar
#

no

pure folio
median ocean
#

alright

frail veldt
#

but with addons yes

#

can track trinkets and potions/healthstone/etc

#

racials

timid idol
#

thats insane

#

i already thought cdm was dogshit

#

i just found out you cannot track trinkets

hardy vault
#

blizz one is

#

addons make it good

#

as always

timid idol
#

i would have never known this if i hadn't played hunter

#

yea idk

glass mortar
#

well see why would u think tracking trinkets is important?

#

blizzard clearly doesnt

#

so why should you

#

that was my motto garf

#

play the game the way blizzard intended 😠

#

surely someone has made a stop using addons meme in the stop format at some point

queen locust
#

Is dropping preperation doable? Idk whats about this button but i really keep forgetting to use it

undone notch
#

Honestly I wish we could play without KiR

#

Feels like it adds genuinely nothing to the class and something like "Your dice rolls last 5-15 seconds longer" (scaling with dice level) would be just as impactful without giving another button to worry about

lean shadow
#

I love when my guild wants to go over logs with us after raid and they get to me and theyre just like yea idk

glass mortar
cinder relic
#

if u dont wanna play prep just play fatebound