Bf fix helped a lot in keys of
#outlaw
gaunt phoenix
I liked the bf charges from bfa, where bf damage was mental but it could not be permanent
the people would hate having bf downtime tho
cinder relic
the people would hate having bf downtime tho
100%
keen belfry
i think id hate that yeah
cinder relic
I said it before in here like
"bf being 90% uptime isn't a big deal"
Like, in theory, if tuned properly wouldn't rlly bother me
But I think it'd drive a lot of ppl insane
buoyant stratus
I think a lower uptime stronger bf would be sick
keen belfry
whats the benefit of it? can you be more bursty ish
keen belfry
cant they just rework a spell or something and make it also cleave
dim parrot
Idk if any class has 90% uptime on aoe
keen belfry
like BTE can just not need BF to do aoe dmg
gaunt phoenix
whats the benefit of it? can you be more bursty ish
it allows bf to be tuned very high
cinder relic
whats the benefit of it? can you be more bursty ish
Higher tuned bf. You can bank charges for future pulls with bf as a big value
keen belfry
i do very much want to have one more none passive cleave button like BR, i think we need it
cinder relic
In bfa it was in theory like 70% uptime or smthing but downtime and walking between packs meant closer to like 80/90%
gaunt phoenix
there were encounters with periodic aoe like orgozoa that outlaw was exceptional at with banking charges
keen belfry
did u have any other way to do aoe outside of BF
dim parrot
Yeh that’s what I think too Awang
gaunt phoenix
No, not really
dim parrot
Would be weird
keen belfry
i think bf being a static cd, lower than 100% uptime, WOULD be fun to me if we had non bf aoe elsewhere
dim parrot
Unless BR and like 1 more thing could cleave while BF is down
keen belfry
i already hate the scarce moments i have where i chose to not bf at end of pack
would be worse with bf charges like that right?
gaunt phoenix
what if you were still so far ahead on details because the blade flurry you did use was so much dmg
keen belfry
cinder relic
You had like, 5jsh seconds of downtime between each bf when fully out of charges
gaunt phoenix
You just didnt need to aoe permanently in bfa
cinder relic
Or maybe like 3
keen belfry
i do like the idea of an omega BF
gaunt phoenix
though we also had Wits which has designed around not-permanent bf
keen belfry
but it would need to come with something else, more on bf aoe
why cant u just have an omega bf button thats different than bf
gaunt phoenix
u could get like a passive 10% cleave
keen belfry
like something that just makes BF blast for like 30% of the time
gaunt phoenix
and then real bf is big cleave
keen belfry
yeah
i mean AR could just bolster BF
45% uptime on AR would be be decent tuning knob for BF buffin
keen belfry
it always comes back to this
AR charges
but for real AR buffing blade flurry % directly would be banger
civic bay
if you were a 126ilvl earthen outlaw rogue what dungeons would you reroll first?
civic bay
thank you king
gaunt phoenix
as assassination loot spec
keen belfry
then go find myth tier dungeon that u dont have
civic bay
swapping to sin loot spec now 
river wing
if you were a 126ilvl earthen outlaw rogue what dungeons would you reroll first?
are you getting carried and just staying dead for the entire dungeon
126 ilvl won't survive them aoes
gaunt phoenix
after pit you just kinda roll randomly for what you dont have
keen belfry
even pit is giga for outlaw, its actually like 3x giga for arms
civic bay
are you getting carried and just staying dead for the entire dungeon
126 ilvl wo...
ROFL
keen belfry
bis weapon, 3 tier slots, bis neck belt and ring
like its actually 10-17x more bis for arms than law dam
gaunt phoenix
maybe brand new rogue should send crafted helm
civic bay
I am an arms going outlaw but im an outlaw main so
keen belfry
well solo as a fresh char, miasma chasms is a good roll too
civic bay
just curious where to full send besides mythic chim reroll
keen belfry
pit is general rec like solo said, lotta good pieces there
craggy barn
why does ddh get the concept of smuggling while we rogues dont get to do shit like that
wtf
we the rogue not them!
river wing
why does ddh get the concept of smuggling while we rogues dont get to do shit li...
wha
craggy barn
ddh people decided that the action of holding resources to take into /out of meta is to be called smuggling
river wing
smuggling and wiggling
smh
steel shadow
me when i use raw slice and dice on prepull to smuggle an extra supercharger
frail veldt
or when I smuggle my cds for the amp phase
random kraken
Currently, I have Mythic Gaze, Mythic Guidon, Heroic Plume and Heroic Prism as my trinkets. If I keep Mythic Gaze fixed, which other trinket should I use?
Also, would it be worth spending my bonus rolls next week to try and get a Mythic Prism?
inner yacht
heroic plum is probably about the same with mythic prism. you should sim them and see for yourself
quaint mauve
rotund zodiac
no
lean flax
Currently, I have Mythic Gaze, Mythic Guidon, Heroic Plume and Heroic Prism as m...
The answer will always be to sim yourself. As for the bonus rolls, completely up to you based on your gear
random kraken
The answer will always be to sim yourself. As for the bonus rolls, completely up...
I generally understood that Gaze and Prism were the best options, so I was a bit confused when Guidon came out slightly ahead in my current setup. Thanks for the answer!
hardy thicket
298 guidon will always beat any HC option I think
From M+ *
My trinkets are so bad I've got like 3%+ DPS missing from just not having Gaze 
worldly compass
Heroic plume is better than any mythic dungeon trinket for me
It sims slightly ahead of my mythic prism
unkempt dew
My trinkets are so bad I've got like 3%+ DPS missing from just not having Gaze <...
I have a champion gaze and that one is even beating most of the higher trinkets. Its insane how good that one is
cedar bone
Why is there no wow analyzer for Outlaw ?
proven ocean
Because thats why
dull geyser
what do you guys think separates top dmg logs vs average logs?
mighty pivot
the numbers
cedar pewter
what would be the best trinkets to use?
hardy thicket
what do you guys think separates top dmg logs vs average logs?
The ability to consistently play close to perfect despite being subject to various RNG elements (i.e. getting a mechanic at a bad timing).
Then again some mechanics just giga fuck even a top tier player but generally
bright cedar
how to handle the scenario where even with Loaded Dice, I only ever roll 2s
until I run out of loaded dice and resets
and I'm 50s away from AR
no RTB
I roll, I keep getting ones
cause yeah if I roll 3 or jackpot, KiR fixes this and you'll have AR up again by the next time you have to roll
and that gives you loaded dice
but I stg
i just did a MGT, i rolled 2s for like 6 times in a row
never used KiR
i ran out of loaded dice juggles
and from then on I kept rolling ones on the boss, doing a solid 60k dps
sometimes this spec makes me want to punch a hole into the monitor
do I just KiR a double trouble? to prevent running out of loaded dice?
tranquil hemlock
pins say if you're so far away from a loaded dice and you have a 2, you can KIR to not have to endure rolling a 1
its a very slight dps loss but it's a gameplay gain as you avoid torture
bright cedar
okay. i'll just KiR a 2 next time
cause sometimes I steamroll the dungeon with 3s and jackpots and I feel like the biggest gamer ever
tranquil hemlock
but yeah i feel you its pain
bright cedar
and other times it's just 1s and 2s
tranquil hemlock
outlaw man
bright cedar
and it makes me want to throw up
soft abyss
Also probably depends on the context, in aoe you can wait for a good roll but in ST with a 1 roll you are tortured
tranquil hemlock
its like the squidward window meme
you have a 1 and you're watching the other dps have fun enjoying game
bright cedar
yeah and then you SS > SS > SS > SS > SS > SS to build 6 combo points so you can use one finisher
all this at 0 energy ofc
and you need to wait 3 seconds between each SS
the highs are really high on this spec
but god damn the lows are low
mighty pivot
🤓 erm actually you only need 5 SS because of ruthlessness
trail sparrow
do you guys fill to full cp after a bte reset or just press until cd ?
limpid sky
do you guys fill to full cp after a bte reset or just press until cd ?
unless you get 2 combopoints from ruthlessness and you land on 6 after an ace proc you wanna fill yeah
simple bridge
When raiding should I do the pre pull Killing Spree tech?
bright cedar
if I were to send a log, would someone tell me what am I doing so horribly wrong?
i've been trying to learn this for weeks, probably months now
but even when i have god rolls and I feel like, fuck yeah, i got dmg now
i do like 20k less overall than in sub
and usually I do like 40-50k less overall
hasty warren
Hi pirates
wintry solar
Sup
tough salmon
jolly geyser
astral granite
Middle
unkempt dew
Just go brrrraaaaappp
bright cedar
Outlaw in a full fledged physical comp:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/C8XtDTzhwNLAHFjM?fight=last&type=damage-done
151k overall, died twice to random shit I couldn't see cause I was busy looking at my 17 buffs and buttons that I have to maintain, managed to use kicks and stops 11 times, took 34m damage on an 18
Subtlety in a complete random bullshit go comp:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/b2rNRTAVgdfxWvy4?fight=8&type=damage-done
156k overall, not died to anything, 25 stops and interrupts, took 29m on a 19 
please make it make sense
i would be very appreciative if someone could tell me how to improve
i really want to get better at outlaw
but i have to use 110% of my braincells i feel like, and there's nothing left up there for kicks and mechanics, and even then, I do less damage than sub which has two buttons
i love this spec but I'm so bad at it
astral granite
You could try !log but I am not sure if it still exists
shell fossil
ret ate all the pad its okay
pastel sierra
also if you want a bit of an easier time on outlaw you can try fatebound
and i guess in general double checking how much you're tracking and how you're tracking it
shell fossil
in this case the sub rogue didn't pad enough..ended up with more time in 8 target situations etc
gaunt phoenix
where bug fix
wintry solar
Under there
gaunt phoenix
whm,ere...
river wing
where bug fix
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frozen quest
Theres like 3 different gear options for outlaw now not sure which to pick the sim is almost same
- 2x arcanoweave
- Arcanoweave + hunt
- arcanoweave + Iris ring
gaunt phoenix
since they sim the same, you could go Hunt because it gives haste (sometimes), which helps energy in some small way
rugged wigeon
if my bte resets but it reset to 5cp do i ss for 6-7 combo points or just keep spamming untill it doesnt reset?
weary fog
build to 6
rugged wigeon
ok ty
frozen quest
since they sim the same, you could go Hunt because it gives haste (sometimes), w...
Ok ty
shell fossil
im reading manga camby
gaunt phoenix
Ok ty
cursive gyro
im reading manga camby
I play outlaw because I'm trying to find the one piece.
dim widget
bro, who thought having to build after ace procc would be fun. this feels so fucking ass wtf
weary fog
overcapping infinite CPs yaayy
gaunt phoenix
and still didnt give it 1 more cps
shell fossil
combat rogue
gaunt phoenix
yes
shell fossil
actual goat take on that guy honestly
pastel sierra
and still didnt give it 1 more cps
They just think we should finish on 5
Even if its worse
dim widget
https://tenor.com/view/rogue-warcraft-wow-gif-11008475980691198481
first time i played sin in wotlk i thought having something like cut to the chase was the 2nd coming of christ
shell fossil
elitistjerks was literally sin or nothing but then mechanics happened basically swapped to combat for ulduar prog
also shadowpanther afair
still made fun of sub though cause i was like..what's a burst spec lol
jolly geyser
doing shadowcraft sims locally
river wing
https://tenor.com/view/bongosub-sub-rogue-world-of-warcraft-rogue-aoe-gif-275548...
rupture? what rupture? xD
unkempt dew
Go outlaw or go broke
midnight granite
shell fossil
doing shadowcraft sims locally
literally had no idea how to sim using that excel spreadsheet tbh
cursive gyro
literally had no idea how to sim using that excel spreadsheet tbh
I calculate all of my sims manually with a TI-87
jolly geyser
literally had no idea how to sim using that excel spreadsheet tbh
copy char data,insert item id or something like that. been awhile
shell fossil
definitely way off in yesteryear
jolly geyser
"leans forward" in my days...
wintry solar
They just think we should finish on 5
Either that or they don't want us slamming finishers back to back. They just gave us a little finisher spam as fan service.
river wing
Either that or they don't want us slamming finishers back to back. They just gav...
frankly IDK what they want for us
and I'm almost sure they don't actually know either
unkempt dew
Buffs when?
shell fossil
maybe they can make aug evoker the raid spec so they can fix dev evoker
and then they can buff
river wing
idk why you're expecting anything before 12.1 at this point
outlaw isn't in the bottom 5 for any content
the big "fix shit we should have fixed in beta" 0.5 patch has come out also
that's it, that's the state of affairs till 12.0.7 at the earliest and I only expect outliers to get changed there, too
shell fossil
dragonflight aug x outlaw was basically the most played last last expansion
give it the bdk treatment where it just fizzles in big keys or something
indigo token
Either that or they don't want us slamming finishers back to back. They just gav...
(but thats why crackshot was so fucking FUN!!!!!)
like sure, get rid of UHUH, but it was just so satisfying getting a ton of BTE resets after another and all the sfx going on
thats fun man!
I know some of the uncs in here couldnt handle it
but dammit it was fun
wintry solar
It def could've existed without uhuh
I'd kill to give outlaw another button to push
indigo token
yeah but UHUH was part of its power for sure right?
cause if you rolled high enough you could get one crackshot window after another
wintry solar
Yeah but if blizz wanted outlaw away from stealth, it didn't have to go the way of the dodo bird
shell fossil
i like the rtb changes but i hate that it's a linear scale 1-4
wintry solar
A button with 2 or 3 charges
shell fossil
it'd be neat if we had rotational changes based on what we rolled
shell fossil
like..bte should be bad in some situations or something
or like just not the most damaging move
or something idk
wintry solar
I'm picking up what you're putting down
indigo token
i dont really agree but i get your point
i think fartlaw is the nadir of outlaw
all the mechanical debt of rogue is catching up to it
why is SnD a button STILL in the first place
shell fossil
blade flurry being a 2 min cd in classic/sod to being a builder rn is in the same boat for me
mighty pivot
Surely they remove HO/Aud from the spec tree
In tlt+1 at this pace
shell fossil
fun button but also press for combo points
mighty pivot
maybe they'll notice we still have those vanish talents too
wintry solar
Hopefully they'll accidentally buff energy regen and not notice
mighty pivot
popo collab with mafic would be peak rogue design
wintry solar
Idk what it'd turn into nor do I want to think about
river wing
like..bte should be bad in some situations or something
nah pls no
wintry solar
It probably wouldn't work
shell fossil
bruh im trying to read manga
river wing
all the mechanical debt of rogue is catching up to it
only now?
mighty pivot
bruh im trying to read manga
read right to left if you are confused
wintry solar
popo collab with mafic would be peak rogue design
I'd just delete those 2 talents and reshuffle the tree atp
uncut karma
So on single target do you never use blade flurry? Even tho it does twice the damage of sinister strike? I get SS has a chance to strike twice and feed procs but it just makes sense when I hit 5cp to just slap blade flurry
mighty pivot
I'd just delete those 2 talents and reshuffle the tree atp
random shuffle like they did?
dim parrot
So on single target do you never use blade flurry? Even tho it does twice the da...
BF is an aoe ability
So it wouldn’t make sense to use in ST
vapid sundial
BF is an aoe ability
Me when I say something extremely wrong
Bf was used in st for a bit there
Actually multiple different times throughout it's iterations
God I hate typing on low phone
uncut karma
But am I wrong to hit blade flurry on a boss if I have a shitty roll and land on 5cp?
vapid sundial
Saw your message about snd
Lol
It was gone for awhile and passive
Blizzard can't make up their mind
mighty pivot
remove cttc you cowards. Let's go back to always manually casting it
wintry solar
Damn, I did say I'd kill to have an extra button for outlaw
Monkey paw strikes again
bright lodge
But am I wrong to hit blade flurry on a boss if I have a shitty roll and land on...
You are losing on all the interactions SS have, not only mastery 2nd strike but also UBs
indigo token
It was gone for awhile and passive
its so weird like
i already dont like pressing dispatch first in our raid opener
to activate SnD, when we ran fatebound
now we have to press a move that doesnt do any damage??
uncut karma
You are losing on all the interactions SS have, not only mastery 2nd strike but ...
Yea I figured thanks.
vivid vessel
Me when I say something extremely wrong
?
was used maybe twice and its all becuase of some stupid interactions
spell was never intended for st
vapid sundial
spell was never intended for st
Classic bf would disagree
vivid vessel
ye bro lets go back to 20 years ago
proven ocean
Classic bf was aoe only
vivid vessel
why you turbo yapping rn
vapid sundial
Ye bro you didn't get attack speed in classic
vivid vessel
20 years ago
proven ocean
React omegalul if ryker noob and doesnt know classic like me and zac
vivid vessel
stfu ryker
vivid vessel
im legit r1 classic knower
vapid sundial
vapid aspen
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vivid vessel
stop linking thingsz from 20 years ago
proven ocean
Ryker mad cuz bad
jolly geyser
if you have yellow name you are noob
proven ocean
stop linking thingsz from 20 years ago
dim parrot
When someone asks if they should use BF in ST send this pic!!!!!
dim parrot
So cool and good
proven ocean
if you have yellow name you are noob
Ikr 
vivid vessel
no but guys bf isnt an aoe only ability, 20 years ago it used to give as in st 
proven ocean
no but guys bf isnt an aoe only ability, 20 years ago it used to give as in st :nerd_glasses:
vapid sundial
no but guys bf isnt an aoe only ability, 20 years ago it used to give as in st <...
Multiple times more recently was used st too
jolly geyser
I just post shit
vapid sundial
radiant wyvern
Ikr <:ICANT:964717117071048774>
not an outlaw player? u in wrong chat buddy
shell fossil
blunderbuss in sod be like
vivid vessel
Multiple times more recently was used st too
ye like once in df i think i dojnt even remmeber why
proven ocean
Ryker: Aaaa let me yap more to make sure they think im kinda right
glass mortar
wasnt it GM
vivid vessel
and that was it since i started the game
proven ocean
vivid vessel
multiple time bro said
glass mortar
didnt gm make BF hit primary target also or something for a short time
vivid vessel
no
glass mortar
was weird i do remember that but it didnt last long
vapid sundial
Ngl think ross can go back on block
vapid sundial
Not worth reading his messages
glass mortar
something like that ye
proven ocean
didnt gm make BF hit primary target also or something for a short time
If used to give us 5% mastery
In DF
only
shell fossil
from the side in scarlet monestary the level 40 dungeon
radiant wyvern
need som of that shit the rogue devs smoke fr
vivid vessel
big 0.01% dps gain
proven ocean
Big big fr fr
vivid vessel
no we dont
proven ocean
Yes
proven ocean
We will
vivid vessel
you dont even have a 90 character
jolly geyser
Never, wow dead
eel
vivid vessel
you do
radiant wyvern
yikes
vivid vessel
i also need to level up a third guy
vivid vessel
its zacques
vivid vessel
im 83 already ross
jolly geyser
i also need to level up a third guy
aug evoker
vivid vessel
thoughts
proven ocean
Nice
radiant wyvern
you cant both do the one word messages thing right now its 9/11 for the chat
jolly geyser
its another outlaw
nah,my dev evoker stuck in lvling hell
jolly geyser
ye
radiant wyvern
<:Zerossthinking:1100799833150861372>
hey zac how r u doing today ?
radiant wyvern
im not hard
radiant wyvern
like a cinder block?
proven ocean
Ye
radiant wyvern
that could be useful
proven ocean
proven ocean
Im at work zac
vivid vessel
whats the name of the addon to level chars
proven ocean
When i come back sure
vivid vessel
that isnt rested xp
opal badger
Follow the arrow?
vivid vessel
no clue
vivid vessel
follow the arrow
proven ocean
I’d rather die
vivid vessel
i hate also
proven ocean
Than quest
radiant wyvern
do the shadowguard point delve spam
vivid vessel
will be doing keys by then
vivid vessel
do the shadowguard point delve spam
idk this is kinda degenerate no ?
proven ocean
Ur french tho
radiant wyvern
all leveling is
radiant wyvern
afk activity til you can play the actual game
radiant wyvern
yea
hardy thicket
Ive only managed to level 2 guys this xpac cuz god I hate it with a passion and time is precious
proven ocean
Ye i did too
radiant wyvern
W
vivid vessel
io mean
proven ocean
I bought a lamborghini revuelto
vivid vessel
buy a boost at this point ross
proven ocean
Banger car
vivid vessel
its prolly like 500k or smth idk
radiant wyvern
I bought a lamborghini revuelto
bought the macaroni spaghetti
proven ocean
I want a fast method
Not a lets play together boost
Like
Fk that
Every expac we had afk lvling
How come now no
??
jolly geyser
just watch/listen to stuff on the side
proven ocean
bought the macaroni spaghetti
proven ocean
just watch/listen to stuff on the side
XDXD
i’d rather not
Makes anything i watch 10 times worse
Cuz lvling is so ass
jolly geyser
well,thats your brain problem
radiant wyvern
get medicated for adhd?
proven ocean
Leveling is an outdated concept
That needs to be fixed
Just release an expansion
Why lvl each time
Like what
radiant wyvern
number go up
rugged wigeon
ngl i just bought a boost while i was working, cba levelling
shell fossil
mmm the powah
proven ocean
ngl i just bought a boost while i was working, cba levelling
Is it afk
radiant wyvern
we should be level 200 right now hitting auto attacks for 23 quintillion damage
rugged wigeon
nah they log into my account
proven ocean
THEY LOG
rugged wigeon
guessing they quested
vapid sundial
nah they log into my account
Not something you should admit here mang
vapid sundial
we should be level 200 right now hitting auto attacks for 23 quintillion damage
Curse you shadowlands
proven ocean
its prolly like 500k or smth idk
Zac
Give me oink oink discord
!!
Me wnat oink
🐽
vivid vessel
no
radiant wyvern
woah get a room
radiant wyvern
not safe for work
shell fossil
dim widget
and they already changed ace once
since you answered to my rant sentence about building after ace
energy feels also ass and having to click tea (the talent, not actually pressing the ability) on law is disgusting
thank you for listening to my ted talk
vapid sundial
Trust me, we've complained endlessly about energy
Atp pretty sure it's just going into the void.
dim widget
Atp pretty sure it's just going into the void.
because blizz only cars for devourer huh? i see the meta joke there 😏
vapid sundial
Not even a joke, pretty sure they just ignore outlaw players
gaunt phoenix
thistle tea didnt bother me in theory but in practice I see the frontloaded charges is a problem
vapid sundial
Haste tax still existing is smoking gun
jolly geyser
because blizz only cars for devourer huh? i see the meta joke there 😏
what car would a dev dh drive?
bmw prolly
vapid sundial
Lifted Ford f150
dim widget
what car would a dev dh drive?
idk
dim widget
bmw prolly
i drive a bmw
vapid sundial
They don't even use it for any lifting, hauling, nothing like that
Just want big truck
vapid sundial
i drive a bmw
Unlucky
BMW drivers are seen as cocks along with not knowing how to drive.
dim widget
Incoming sleeper that costs a 10th of your entire bmw
havent met one yet
and my bmw was quite cheap since its an older one
worldly compass
Does it have working indicators?
dim widget
Does it have working indicators?
ye
jolly geyser
I see no point getting a big horse power car if you dont drive above the speed limit
vapid sundial
Do you use them
worldly compass
probably cuz the previous owner never used them 
dim widget
I see no point getting a big horse power car if you dont drive above the speed l...
german represent
dim widget
Do you use them
ye
jolly geyser
fair
dim widget
probably cuz the previous owner never used them <:OMEGAKEKW:829051106361344021>
might be, idk
it was a weird swap from me
jolly geyser
da autobahn
dim widget
they are a bit unintuitive to use
you tap for like a second of blink
but "clicking" them for blink till turn feels scuffed haha
feels like having to build after ace procc
kms
vapid sundial
Sounds unintuitive
On that note it's been 6 years since I last renewed my license
dim widget
vapid sundial
It's a fraction of the cost to use public transport
jolly geyser
mine is valid untill like 46 or 56,forgor
vapid sundial
Can't help it
jolly geyser
car license atleast
vapid sundial
mine is valid untill like 46 or 56,forgor
Every 4 years here
jolly geyser
truck might be diff
dim widget
It's a fraction of the cost to use public transport
ye i also cycle for most of my errands/work commute
the car is for weekend drives, visiting family type shit
dim widget
🤷♂️
vapid sundial
I'm not willing to give my city $200 a month
So I can then pay for gas and insurance
dim widget
200 a month is crazy
dim widget
i pay 60 a month for garage spot
i can, but i like going to office for some reason idk
its also just a 10 min bike ride
bright lodge
Why does it always have to be on my alt
cerulean portal
if i turn of the Particle Density will i see enemys spells? like pools etc
vivid vessel
ye
very rare cases of weir things tho
but i havent noticed anything game breaking
the fire on last boss skyreach is a bit less visible
like the edges
frail veldt
what car would a dev dh drive?
Nah something like a Camaro or mustang gt lol
mint ether
is it widely know that if you change your loot spec, your rolls for a given dungeon/boss reset?
cerulean portal
@vivid vessel so its ok if i change it to Low? just ruined a key bcz of the cloud :>
gaunt phoenix
is it widely know that if you change your loot spec, your rolls for a given dung...
yes
proven ocean
what car would a dev dh drive?
Lamborghini Revuelto full black matte
mint ether
yes
I am reviewing all the blue posts introducing the system and I don't see this specified
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> so its ok if i change it to Low? just ruined a key bcz of ...
You should yes
uncut stratus
Best dungeon to send bonus rolls on? MH and dagger both, or two 1h's I guess. Have a maxed crafted dagger already from sub i can put in OH
Don't see any haste/crit MH's unfortunately
uncut karma
In rotation it says to clip KS to not overcap energy. so during a big lust pull with adrenaline rush active do you only pop killingspree to spread fazed buff then just back to BtE and Dispatch? and if using preparation in that pull do we wait till fazed is about to fall of the rest of the mobs and refresh?
placid vapor
jolly geyser
Best dungeon to send bonus rolls on? MH and dagger both, or two 1h's I guess. H...
seat or skyreach ig,nesus
nexus
uncut karma
pretty sure its PoS
jolly geyser
hard to say what else he has
uncut karma
he was asking for weaps and said he had a crafted sub dagger
river wing
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669308329419341836/996602948316581899/2...
wet...egg...with an opener?...
cerulean portal
wet...egg...with an opener?...
kinda hot innit
gaunt phoenix
In rotation it says to clip KS to not overcap energy. so during a big lust pull ...
you do cancel ks immediately in lust, but it is not just spreading fazed, it is giving you 2 unseen blades
there is not a specific rule about holding ks to not override fazed from 2 to 1 stacks, i couldnt get a gain out of it
gaunt phoenix
I am reviewing all the blue posts introducing the system and I don't see this sp...
it is not announced by blizzard but it is known generally
uncut karma
doesnt it also apply 2 stacks to all mobs?
gaunt phoenix
ks does spread fazed but you are already spreading fazed with cloud cover being active
cloud cover makes blade flurry instantly fazed everything around you
uncut stratus
hard to say what else he has
Don't have anything on myth track, just a 285 crafted 1h sword and a 285 crafted dagger, so honestly I don't have anything bis yet and I've got all 8 bonus rolls on my rogue
gaunt phoenix
when cloud cover is not active, ks will override fazed on mobs from 2 to 1 stack. i thought that's what you were asking, if we deliberately try to avoid this
unkempt iris
Don't have anything on myth track, just a 285 crafted 1h sword and a 285 crafted...
Go pit and get the whole dungeon’s loot table
jolly geyser
could gamba in pit
cerulean portal
cloud cover makes blade flurry instantly fazed everything around you
wait what?! we use bf after ar?
uncut stratus
Go pit and get the whole dungeon’s loot table
Does pit even have a 1h weapon though? Shouldn't the 1h weapon be in MH?
gaunt phoenix
no just the passive blade flurry hits are spreading fazed
cerulean portal
Does pit even have a 1h weapon though? Shouldn't the 1h weapon be in MH?
the offhand dagger
cerulean portal
no just the passive blade flurry hits are spreading fazed
dont scare me pls
unkempt iris
Does pit even have a 1h weapon though? Shouldn't the 1h weapon be in MH?
If you have a crafted sword, and a crafted dagger focus on everything else
cerulean portal
If you have a crafted sword, and a crafted dagger focus on everything else
ok and what should i do? i have everything except weapons and trinkets 
cerulean portal
im done rerolling on chim
jolly geyser
Dreamrift creature
cerulean portal
its in my next vault or fk that
unkempt iris
Then wait for belo/crown or if you want a mythic item try for prism in skyreach
jolly geyser
I cant think
uncut karma
when cloud cover is not active, ks will override fazed on mobs from 2 to 1 stack...
ok that makes a lot of sense. i did just hit some dummies and after cloud dissapated KS didnt overide to 1 stack. regardless after BtE is on cd we just insta cancel KS for the unseen blade stacks and move on?
gaunt phoenix
yeah if you're about to cap energy during the channel
uncut karma
in lust with adrenaline rush energy is endless so i felt weird hitting killingspree
jolly geyser
want the strikes
cerulean portal
just KS with 1 combo point like pros
gaunt phoenix
it's a design failure in general. KS should pause AR or deal 100% more dmg during it
uncut karma
ok so after preparation it is worth to pop the second one for a quick cancel if in no need of energy and BtE is on cooldown
sorry i know this is super niche im just curious
vivid vessel
it's a design failure in general. KS should pause AR or deal 100% more dmg durin...
should just be faster
ww have that with a hero talent
fist being way faster in cds
should legit be one gcd only in adr
when i press ks on crawth with the haste buff + guidon
and it does tick tick tick tick tick insta
it makes me happy
rough oriole
guidon good for burst on outlaw?
uncut stratus
Are there any moments outside of boss intermissions that we should ever actually hold AR? The only obvious things I can think of are intermissions on dragons, chim, crown
vivid vessel
its almost one gcd you just need guidon lust + crawth haste buff !
uncut stratus
Tricky as well when you consider beloren, knowing if AR would be available again by first egg
I'm guessing if you're playing correctly then AR would either be available or overlap with egg
jolly geyser
its almost one gcd you just need guidon lust + crawth haste buff !
need any scuffed blessings for vault?
vivid vessel
beloren you kinda stop dps for a long time tbf
vivid vessel
need any scuffed blessings for vault?
ye
give me lura head with a socket
or beloren trinket
chose either
jolly geyser
aha
uncut stratus
give me lura head with a socket
if you had both which would you take?
vivid vessel
hmge !
jolly geyser
birdussy trinket in vault for zac 
uncut stratus
keen belfry
zac do u think i get gaze from vault/boss or do i need to spend my 10th voidcore on it?
be honest
vivid vessel
if you had both which would you take?
i think either is the same
i rolled once already on belo
and once on lura
ashen birch
it makes me happy
What’s the WA or addon that makes the sound? I’m using your pack basically but don’t have that
vivid vessel
and its 3 items on both bosses
jolly geyser
zac do u think i get gaze from vault/boss or do i need to spend my 10th voidcore...
I got mine on my 1 creature kill
keen belfry
zac do u think i get gaze from vault/boss or do i need to spend my 10th voidcore...
@vivid vessel answer now
vivid vessel
zac do u think i get gaze from vault/boss or do i need to spend my 10th voidcore...
i got gaze on like 2nd vault
idk dont be a noob
keen belfry
I got mine on my 1 creature kill
just looking back on it its CRAZY that i spent 8+ items on it, when u could just spend 2 or 0
ashen birch
https://wago.io/IKLXk2kPQ
Bless
keen belfry
voidcores are giga for alts, ass for mains
jolly geyser
shit game and all that @keen belfry
keen belfry
in my experience
vivid vessel
Bless
the weak aura is alreayd in the rogue weak aura thing btw
i just forgot to link the things to download
in the desc of the wago
keen belfry
like i could genuinely go make a char today, hit 90, grind all day all day and be higher ilvl than my main
cuz voidcores are insano value
jolly geyser
eeh
proven ocean
keen belfry
u can hit like 287.5 without a vault on an alt starting last reset
vivid vessel
keen belfry
typo alert
vivid vessel
good one
keen belfry
ashen birch
i just forgot to link the things to download
Ahh so I probably have it and just need to DL the sounds then
vivid vessel
ye
jolly geyser
I want myth shoulders in vault
jolly geyser
hop on
uncut stratus
does zac have a WA that'll allow me to 4-roll every rtb
cerulean portal
im sure he does
pastel oxide
does thistle tea auto proc on OL?
vivid vessel
yuh
uncut karma
should just be faster
at 5+ cp or are you sending it at low cp there?
vivid vessel
5 or more ye
river wing
just realized I'm like 95% bis (as much as I can be/care to try)
like there's minor upgrades/optimizations but not an actual ilvl increase
jolly geyser
plums
not looking forward to s2 dungeons,they prolly gonna be ass
be negative tactic. murder row will be kinda dookie surely
pastel oxide
what buffs should i actually track?
vivid vessel
bf and pistol shot are the 2 main ones you need to be looking at kinda all the time
then rtb but you kinda just look at it once after a reroll basically, and then keep track of when its gonna drop
mint ether
think you should track loaded dice
pastel oxide
gravedigger, coup and the coin flips are not needed?
mint ether
I track gravedigger but I haven't actually played my rogue enough to see it and react to it
vivid vessel
you can track gravedigger because of the bug making it delayed to proc sometimes
so you have an easier time reacting to it
otherwise its not really neccessary no
rest dont track
vivid vessel
why
shell fossil
adr is pretty low priority tbh i used to have it on a bar but it's in one of those essential cooldown boxes now
just send it and blast
zinc briar
imagine that u have 6 secs cd in reroll and 2 secs missing of jackpot but u just have 1cp
if u have coup
shell fossil
cause we don't have giga adr uptime like we used to
vivid vessel
sounds like the most useless minmax that happens once every 5 keys
i dont think you should care about tracking coup
mint ether
I think that is the sort of optimization that is more likely to cause mistakes than actually provide gains
zinc briar
its and strange situation but sometimes happens
also if u have bad roll stucked with energy and want to recover reroll breaking fast, u can break with coup and reroll faster
it happens many times
keen belfry
the thing about low cp coups, they cost same energy and do less dmg so like its probably nothing
zinc briar
u dont want to do damage there
u want to recover a good roll fast
to start doing damage
zinc briar
its just a stuck energy situation that u want to leave fast
keen belfry
yes and that reroll is going to save ur energy
zinc briar
u dont undertand what im saying
keen belfry
thats how it works
zinc briar
also another situation
u want to recover blade flurry faster
because u had less uptime
between pulls or smething
u can break with coup
to recover bf
gaunt phoenix
he's saying if stage 3 is about to expire and kir is 5 seconds away, if coup is ready then it would save your roll
that doesnt sound too farfetched to me
shell fossil
i mean you can pick up time on kir by using the cancelaura > snd macro still
especially between packs
you just remember to reapply slice with a dispatch etc which if you're also waiting for adr to come up and stuff like
ye
keen belfry
low cp finishers to extend have always been a thing but i guess knowing coup is up could save that once every year or so so he aint technically wrong
zinc briar
its just an strange situation but sometimes happens
keen belfry
but iw as replying to his breaking bad energy with a reroll thing
keen belfry
i just hate low combo point finishers as they cost the same energy and do less dmg
shell fossil
it also could be that you're losing time/globals trying to find the prio targets in a pull
losing a few globals in outlaw is extremely gritty
mint ether
i mean you can pick up time on kir by using the cancelaura > snd macro still
how does this work?
zinc briar
and sometimes with low energy trying to hold bf u have like 5-6 secs cd of adr and u wnt to break fast to reroll and burst
and coup saves you
gaunt phoenix
if you pandemic slice and dice you literally cannot recast it until it drops below 48 seconds or w.e
so if you wanted to recast snd you would cancelaura it
mint ether
just as a way to spend CP between pulls and generate restless?
gaunt phoenix
Yes
shell fossil
it's /cancelaura > /cast sliceanddice and you just spam it when you're not doing anything like rp etc
fading forum
my ui doesn't track supercharged combo points and I cba to get a new CDM pack to fix it, when we do prekey AR, KS, AR shit, do we send 2 finishers before AR BtE in first pull to make use of them?
or just go straight into it
mint ether
is that more efficient than just using the CP on the next pull with a normal finisher?
guess it depends on time between pulls and CP decay
gaunt phoenix
my ui doesn't track supercharged combo points and I cba to get a new CDM pack to...
the supercharger stacks up to 4
so u dont need to spend it
fading forum
OH BOY this is great news ty
zinc briar
is that more efficient than just using the CP on the next pull with a normal fin...
if u have long time like roleplay etc yes
fading forum
maybe i should get a new cdm so i can see them xd
gaunt phoenix
wangbar !
shell fossil
my ui doesn't track supercharged combo points and I cba to get a new CDM pack to...
if you cast snd/bf during the bubble you would send rtb + ld > adrenaline rush > bte
raid is different etc
vivid vessel
the supercharger stacks up to 4
6 
well 7 but realistically the only number reachable is 6
uncut stratus
is HM tauren outlaw rogue based?
gaunt phoenix
yes
vivid vessel
bro out nerded me 
proven ocean
uncut stratus
yes
For some reason I've seen a lot of good outlaw rogues on tauren/HM tauren so i just bought a faction change + server change since horde is deadge on frostmourne
vivid vessel
proven ocean
Wait i think its a horse
shell fossil
that's a rat
jolly geyser
boring gif
uncut stratus
can I post something too?
gaunt phoenix
yes
vivid vessel
no
uncut stratus
well which is it
jolly geyser
forgot gif didnt have sound
proven ocean
keen belfry
solo can you tell blizz dev to make AR buff BF so we can have bigger BF windows in ar
vivid vessel
well which is it
im a member of this discord for longer than solo so i have autority
keen belfry
that was good idea we had yesterday
radiant wyvern
THIS ONE IS SO GOOD
facebook mom posting ai images
shell fossil
i think a hunter misdirected me in a 17 npx the other day
uncut stratus
im a member of this discord for longer than solo so i have autority
there. i posted it.
gaunt phoenix
nice
shell fossil
everything turned and smote me on first pull
vivid vessel
nice
proven ocean
vivid vessel
a dog + cat
uncut stratus
yep
gaunt phoenix
that's a rabbit
uncut stratus
nope
jolly geyser
proven ocean
https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-385202266665379022
Wtf a tiger
uncut stratus
that's what's called a "cabbit" jsyk
shell fossil
is that doom or kf2 music
uncut stratus
and yes they exist
pastel oxide
they took away outlaw shadowstep???
shell fossil
im like 90% thats demon hunter
gaunt phoenix
yes
pastel oxide
this spec is ass
gaunt phoenix
no it is outlaw
pastel oxide
bring back the HO builds
gaunt phoenix
no
gaunt phoenix
fuck ho players
proven ocean
fuck ho players
Fuck hoes? Wtf
pastel oxide
i think ive only ever enjoyed HO
vivid vessel
solo finally joined me '
gaunt phoenix
why
vivid vessel
ho players are all low iq !
keen belfry
its not an HO loop, its called an HO poop @pastel oxide
gaunt phoenix
the loop of press glowy sinister strike instead of sinister strike
vivid vessel
@gaunt phoenix do you understand me if i tell you that i think killing spree animation or whatever likle the feeling i get when pressing the button
is too rounded
compared to other outlaw abilities
keen belfry
omg my sinisster strike procced to ambush lets press the ssame keybind and call it a loop
gaunt phoenix
🤔
vivid vessel
other abilities are sharp !
gaunt phoenix
rounde
vivid vessel
quick !
gaunt phoenix
d
keen belfry
what the fuck did zac just say
gaunt phoenix
i get it
vivid vessel
cut deep and clean
keen belfry
KS is too round?
vivid vessel
dull
gaunt phoenix
its soft
vivid vessel
not sharp
soft
tickles
ignoring the damage its doing btw
that doesnt affect me
cerulean portal
@proven ocean how many cats do u have?
nova solar
Makes perfect sense tbh
hardy thicket
zac
hardy thicket
what was the % gain from warr/monk/sham for Outlaw I know u know these by heart
gaunt phoenix
is monk tooltip 5% or 3%
jolly geyser
get 10 cats
hardy thicket
is monk tooltip 5% or 3%
I dont even know that kek
keen belfry
5
gaunt phoenix
5% / 5% / 6%
hardy thicket
insane
keen belfry
cats are the easiest thing ever
gaunt phoenix
lmfao
jolly geyser
do a ufc fight
cerulean portal
man r u ok
gaunt phoenix
proven ocean
@tough salmon give us some car gifs
cerulean portal
uncut stratus
will sims even prefer to get you to 22-24% haste? outlaw friend of mine told me go for 24% haste without flask
so I'm thinking since its kinda custom maybe I gotta figure that out on my own?
uncut stratus
that's not AI
pastel oxide
anyone know how to turn off the fazed tracker on plater?
jolly geyser
the settings
cerulean portal
will sims even prefer to get you to 22-24% haste? outlaw friend of mine told me...
i have 24% without flask and always 2nd dps, never first :<
jolly geyser
gaunt phoenix
will sims even prefer to get you to 22-24% haste? outlaw friend of mine told me...
yes they will, but 5 minute sims are frontloaded on thistle tea
uncut stratus
anyone know how to turn off the fazed tracker on plater?
plater settings, think its auras or soemthing like that, you select that debuff and add it to "ignore" list something like that
gaunt phoenix
if you did the long dungeonroute sims it might show that going above standard haste is fine
proven ocean
anyone know how to turn off the fazed tracker on plater?
In wow
uncut stratus
definitely looks like jundies plater, good on you
pastel oxide
definitely looks like jundies plater, good on you
it is
uncut stratus
it is
ive been using ellesmereUI so i dont even have plater, otherwise I could tell you the exact tab/section it's in, but I think it's auras
cerulean portal
looks like minicc to me but im not sure
uncut stratus
then you just add fazed to ignore list
shell fossil
will sims even prefer to get you to 22-24% haste? outlaw friend of mine told me...
mm depends on your gear..my sim likes crit flask 23% haste and myth heart of wind over vorasius ring + haste flask
how do you do long dungeon route sims by the way is that an expert thing?
gaunt phoenix
yes, you use a weakaura to export an mdt route
or you copy paste it from somewhere
proven ocean
gaunt phoenix
it basically just recreates the pulls with little health bars and the sim ends when the last pull dies
normally it's a bit weird with more damage = faster sim but outlaw doesnt really care
shell fossil
pit of saron route and uhhh lemme try that one of these days
gaunt phoenix
the only difference between dslice is the evaluation of haste
cerulean portal
ross u streaming?
pastel oxide
BTE isnt an increased damage if your targeting the BTE target anymore right?
gaunt phoenix
correct
proven ocean
Its just ass to grind some stuff in osrs
pastel oxide
ok outlaw is cool
proven ocean
Most of the game is boring af
pastel oxide
i hated that shit