outlaw

[vivid vessel]

when i played ww in like

s2 tww

fist was legit twice as fast as ks

• it does full damage to your main target

lame ability tho i didnt enjoy it that much

[cinder relic]

Its about as long as KS rn

But mgith be a low level no haste type shit

idt u stack haste rn though

[vivid vessel]

i really hated the other thing tho

uh

[glass mortar]

no if you had 6 FtH stacks you would PS

[vivid vessel]

like you meditate

[cinder relic]

wdp?

[vivid vessel]

and run around

green shit

hero talent

[cinder relic]

Conduit?

[vivid vessel]

ye

[maiden beacon]

oh okok

[cinder relic]

\

U play SP rn and u dont get this

my FOF is like 2ish 2.5

[vivid vessel]

i see

ye i mena

ks duration

[glass mortar]

i think long fist is gone isnt it

they changed it into bigger fist

but yea u FoF way more then we Kspree

[cinder relic]

Duration feels similar and u do it more on WW

[lethal oak]

What if KS teleported you around and worked with BF?

[glass mortar]

think its 3s base again

so probably similar speed to kspree AR

[vivid vessel]

i mean ww feels very slow to me tbf

[cinder relic]

It is

[vivid vessel]

ks works with bf

[glass mortar]

ye i mean WW gcd is perma 1s

so its like

a wonky sin or sub rogue

ur never fast

but u never have downtime either

very rarely

only with the cringe build

[cinder relic]

U kinda do sometimes

[glass mortar]

fist time is a big part of that

i think shadowpan does

other one less so

[cinder relic]

FOF and SCK

And u sometimes have to wait for energy with some bad luck

But maybe its cuz I'm shit and leveling idrk

[glass mortar]

SCK doesnt slow u down tho u can cast gcds during it

its sick

only thing u cant cast is other cast bars

if u cast a 1 gcd attack during it it doesnt stop the full duration

very fun

wish kspree was like that

[cinder relic]

i like fof i like ks

[glass mortar]

if KS is gunna exist as it does it should probably not do such pathetic damage we are trying to cancel it at all possible points it just feels a bit silly

or at least remove the random damage reducing ur prio during it

it should extend AR too so it doesnt feel so shit to cast in AR idk maybe its silly but it feels dumb to me our 2.5m cd tie in to hero talent finisher is so shit u wanna bte prep bte before u ever even press it

they went a bit overboard on its damage

[tight kernel]

Any helm crafters in chat

[paper grove]

Yeah KS needs to either be a nuke or perhaps apply like a damage taken debuff, something

[vivid vessel]

ks need to not do rng damage so i dont feel like im losing half my irl life when i press it in aoe

[paper grove]

Lots of numbers flying around you think its doing a lot, get the the end of the dungeon and its doing the same as your instant poison

[strong halo]

when i use preparation do i insta send blade rush again even if i just used it?

[wintry solar]

Preparation H

[rough oriole]

based opinion, i miss the prio damage it had

[rough oriole]

pretty sure you do, it has the highest prio

[rancid silo]

any have the mouse over focus macro

[maiden beacon]

Focus Macro
/focus [@mouseover,exists,nodead][@target,nodead]
/tm [@focus]1

[rancid silo]

ty

[timid idol]

is there a limit

to how many of these new +10 ilvl things u can have

[vivid vessel]

no

[timid idol]

baller ty

[steel shadow]

i miss old killing spree

[past fossil]

I don't, I love gunfu. It's a Miss Fortune ult or Dante doing Dante things.

[limpid isle]

its barely either of those things, maybe more so Dante things, but like just barely. should just remove the cone though tbh, and turn it into a gun whirlwind. like Reaper ult.

[formal thunder]

make KS like old Abom Limb, damage aura basically

[indigo token]

filthy league player

[formal thunder]

in fact, give it the same visual, just give each green hand a revolver

[wintry solar]

Go play league then

Get off my spec

[mighty pivot]

how do you know they are maining UHDK?

[wintry solar]

Get off UHDK too

Matter of fact

Nerf DK and Outlaw

[past fossil]

It's not a frontal though? It says "Within 8 yards around you" 🤔

And one of the animations your character puts the gun behind their back and shoots behind them

[wintry solar]

It's a frontal, tooltip and anim sucks

It used to not be

[vivid vessel]

its not tho

visually its a cone but its all st hits

oh if you mean

[wintry solar]

Even behind?

[vivid vessel]

it does only hit in front tho

yes

when it fire behind its because you are out of range

[glass mortar]

the behind animation only plays if nobody is in range

[vivid vessel]

so it doesnt hit anything

[glass mortar]

it wont ever shoot a guy behind u ^

[wintry solar]

I never noticed that

That's dumb, delete ks

[glass mortar]

agreed

[wintry solar]

Don't even bother salvaging it

[buoyant stratus]

Shooting backwards just so i can say i look cool peak aura farm tbh

[fathom bramble]

they already salvaged it

they just gave the outcome to surv instead

[wintry solar]

I do believe both specs could have Boomstick and no one would care in the slightest

[buoyant stratus]

They should make Ambush just shoot a gun, so HO builds can pewpew harder. Good for my immersion

[wintry solar]

They should revert RtB and give adr a second charge

[fathom bramble]

I've kind of felt this for a while

though I was imagining it with crackshot back then

nowadays idk what the point would be beyond open world stuff and flavor

flavor is still cool though

[indigo token]

i miss crackshot

[glass mortar]

ye

[wintry solar]

I miss a lot of things blizz isn't cool enough to bring back

Like MFD

[buoyant stratus]

Thats a DS talent name now smile

[wintry solar]

That's Mark For Death

:)

There's a chance

[vivid vessel]

acro

[wintry solar]

Acro

There's a list of things

Steadily devolving

[vital otter]

Anyone know the issue with Tricks not wokring

[ashen birch]

if we are getting chain BTE resets and ADR is at 1min when the chain starts and it keeps resetting until ADR is at 30 sec, do you start to hold the BTE and cast dispatch instead to save for Supercharged BTEs, or just send them and likely not have BTE for ADR when its off CD?

[gaunt phoenix]

you hold

[dim parrot]

What issue

u prob using it wrong

[cerulean portal]

it just doesnt look like a buff but it is

if used once

[halcyon chasm]

wtf is the rogue mog this season. why does blizz want us dressed up like hobos

[wintry solar]

They're burnt out creatively from having like 7 different mogs and recolors every patch

Outside of class tiersets *

[tender wedge]

rogue tier appearance is generationally bad right now though

sets have otherwise been decent for awhile imo

[wintry solar]

I like the prey set

[wintry copper]

chat are we back

[cerulean portal]

bruh

b tier

[next veldt]

RIPOSTE GANG GANG RISE UP

[harsh forge]

OUTLAWWWW

[harsh forge]

these stats suck tho outlaw is mid on avg but the best run ever is ok

[buoyant stratus]

Yeah just hit bros

[jolly geyser]

Straight up jackpotting it

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel when is season 2 ptr m+?

kinda want to play

https://tenor.com/view/cat-horse-cat-head-horse-brent-12-am-bremt-gif-4061942634947298843

[steel shadow]

is there any op addons besides exwind/exboss

i was shindig had some strange timeline thing

[cerulean portal]

why

how much is that shamans buff?

like 10% overall?

[proven ocean]

Bro can’t read

[cerulean portal]

why u so toxic to meee

i did not read indeed

[dim widget]

ret not being the lowest melee is criminal and needs to be changed asap

[jolly geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646043012924964896/1504913071586541628/faktail-cat.mp4?ex=6a08b704&is=6a076584&hm=a4251d650d096bf6acc96e07f6be772816d528520814072a02ba1175d9887fe8&

[near osprey]

is the wording on elusiveness wrong? cause it doesnt display evasion as reduced 20% damage?

or is it just visually not shown

[worn patrol]

Yo does anyone know if I can use vanish or melt on merc subjugators in seat and if so how?

[craggy barn]

u can vanish off the chains of subjugation circle

[zinc briar]

why are we using dispatch with 6+ cp again?

[worn patrol]

So i can just press it after getting them?

[craggy barn]

yes

[craggy barn]

math

[worn patrol]

Does that also work with shadowmelt?

[craggy barn]

probably?

[worn patrol]

Aight thanks 😄

[icy hare]

less chance of wasting CP's with Trickster compared to Fatebound

[zinc briar]

but we were doing 5 a week ago

[craggy barn]

trickster doesnt get any benefits from spending at 5, unlike fatebound

[icy hare]

it's always been 6 with trickster, only 5 with killing spree

[zinc briar]

and i see ppl ignoring coup the grace

[craggy barn]

dispatch turns into coup, but its still not high enough prio to override other finisher decisions

[zinc briar]

zac dont even track the buff

[icy hare]

there's no need

[craggy barn]

becauyse dispatch just turns into coup

[zinc briar]

i was dispatching with 1 cp when i had coup 4

[worn patrol]

Btw do I get damage when I stand in others circles when I freed myself from chains?

[craggy barn]

yes

why are u dispatching at 1

[worn patrol]

Perfect 👍

[zinc briar]

zac is going full cp with buff up

without tracking the buff

also using ks with 6-7 cp

not with 5

i dont understand nothing

[craggy barn]

u send ks on 5+

sending ks at 5 is fine

u dont have to build to 6+ for ks

u dont treat coup as a special finisher

[zinc briar]

coz its 1+5 of the buff

[craggy barn]

yea but if u finish at 6 its 6+5

u dont need to track the buff because u always should be finishing at 6+

having coup changes nothing

bte > ks > coup / dispatch

is the finisher priority

[zinc briar]

yes you should if u need a fast finish to renew buff with kir or something like that

but in terms of dmg seems we can ignore it

in some situations u can use the extra cp of coup finishing with less cp to save a roll with kir

so u need to track it

[craggy barn]

track what

having coup?

[zinc briar]

coup the grace

ye

imagine u need to break 6 cp coz kir has 6secs of cd and your rolls are falling in 6s

[hardy thicket]

I understand what you are saying

[zinc briar]

u have coup

[craggy barn]

yes i get what u mean now

[zinc briar]

u breack with 1 cp

kir

[hardy thicket]

Not sure if its sim:ed could be a pretty fun little min/max

[zinc briar]

and save the jackpot

[hardy thicket]

if its even simable

[craggy barn]

its minor

and very case by case

doesnt always happen

[hardy thicket]

Would it be possible to sim that the sim forces a finisher with coup de grace up if its going to extend like a stage 2 or stage 3 buff

?

[craggy barn]

probably

give me a sec

[zinc briar]

imagine that u have bad roll (purple) and roll the bones has 6 secs cd, u need to get the cd up and u have 0 energy but "coup the grace" up, u dispatch with 1-2 cp

and u can reroll faster

thats another situation

i dont understand ppl ignoring it

[craggy barn]

people ignore it because people dont understand outlaw cdr

[zinc briar]

or u are in cds with red and want to reroll fast looking for the orange or yellow coz u have prep up

u break cp fast with coup the grace

to reroll faster

[hardy thicket]

yeah but you are talking about ignoring finisher rules giving you less CDR per finisher to fish for a specific scenario its not certain its an actual gain

but could be

I have no clue

[craggy barn]

its very conditional

[hardy thicket]

like at the same time you are sacrificing CDR on other things if they are on CD so yeah its very conditional

[craggy barn]

on average its likely a very small gain

[hardy thicket]

if BtE, AR, BR all are up might be a case for it

[craggy barn]

because the scenarios u would do this arent guaranteed

[radiant wyvern]

i've defo sent a low cp finisher to get a kir up at last second to renew a jackpot

feels kinda clutch

[craggy barn]

if my apl is correct

literally makes no difference on average

but in the moment its very good

[radiant wyvern]

bird in the hand etc

I also send a slice and dice if it's like an algethar going to last boss from vexamus bridge up the stairs and it's about to be a hot second before you're in combat again if I ended up with any cp as the pack died

just for a lil hit of extra cdr

[slim goblet]

is there any1 that maybe can look at my logs and see if i am doing some big misstakes or give me some pointers ?

[sleek bobcat]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[cerulean portal]

what happened to logs

feels like no one making em

[zinc briar]

but seem is not a real combat situation

with moments of no uptime between pulls or something like that

[lavish plover]

Can I track the Blade Furry uptime in essential cooldowns bar like adrenaline rush?

[keen cedar]

What are these rogue notes for patch 12.0.7. I was traveling, didnt follow what is happening

[karmic ember]

As I was reading this, all I could think was "What are these birds doing here?"

I need sleep.

[keen cedar]

Hahahahah very true, I see something that I cant belive is true, that is the reason I am asking here xD

[mighty pivot]

yes just open cdm settings and move bf from the icons to the bars

[valid hound]

i just reached 285 and myth upgrades still cost 20 crests – shouldnt it get cheaper at 285?

[hardy thicket]

the achivement is for alts

not your main character

[valid hound]

oh shit

[hardy thicket]

your alt will get the discount in slots where your main already has 289

but it works vice versa as well, so if your alt gets 289 in slots where your main does not, your main can get a discount in these slots

[unkempt dew]

Is the gaze trinket so much better than the ranger trinket? I have a normal gaze trinket at item level 263 and I can upgrade the ranger trinket to 285 with the void things but the sim says that it’s a ~1000 dps loss

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9o9zz41MUcgRDye15FxCFW

[soft abyss]

can someone give hook macro ?

[main radish]

Good question

[frozen elk]

then it doesnt give teh 20% red dmg

most likely

[arctic hollow]

#showtooltip
/cast [@Cursor]Grappling Hook;

[arctic hollow]

Number wise the Gaze is cracked. What's your second trinket ?

[unkempt dew]

Skyreach trinket full mythic

[arctic hollow]

@merz The achievement goes both way actually. Meaning, Main has 285, every piece is cheaper to upgrade on alts up to the ilevel reached by the main on that specific piece. But also, if the Alt has a 289 cloack and the main has a lower ilevel cloack then the upgrades will only cost 10 crest on the main as well, only on that piece.
The reduction takes into account the highest ilevel of the item account wide

[formal thunder]

So no notes?

https://tenor.com/view/anger-angry-break-gif-19098093

[keen cedar]

Dont wanna copy all of it here, its a lot of text, but you can check it here https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/

[unkempt dew]

But 263 vs 285 is so much

[arctic hollow]

It is kinda nuts that 6/6NM gaze would outvalue 5/6myth Insigna. The high crit proably helps magnify the main stat proc of it

[formal thunder]

Gaze is especially cracked for us cause of our short GCD and Opportunity ignoring the internal CD of the trinket

[mighty pivot]

there is nothing new for rogue there. what you see is them syncing the live tuning hotfixes (you also linked to the homepage of mmochampion btw)

[unkempt dew]

I can’t seem to get a heroic one

But have heroic ranger trinket

[reef forge]

do we use wound poison in maisara?

[timid portal]

not really worth it that much

[hardy thicket]

Yup thats what I said

[bright lodge]

Worth it very much the higher the key, though won’t show on meters

You could also use it on Voidcallers in MT

[lucid sparrow]

not many mobs that it would affect, pretty meh in general

[solemn pebble]

guys do u use a addon for tricks or a focus macro ?

[quaint sable]

!tricks

[ornate heath]

Auto Tricks on tank Addon - TankMD

[quaint sable]

What I use.

[solemn pebble]

thank u

[formal thunder]

I usually use it up to the first boss, for the berserkers and headhunters

no idea how much it really does

[mighty pivot]

more than what instant poison would do

[reef forge]

are there any other dungeons you would recommend it for?

[cerulean portal]

do we know what we grind in myth+ season2?

[ivory ember]

!ui

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
• Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent

[leaden sonnet]

Latter half of magisters, on the big voidwalkers

Or well, some of them

Don't remember their whole name but they heal based on the damage they deal with their big aoe

[mighty pivot]

the voidcallers

also seat has those riftstalkers which do healing

[leaden sonnet]

Npx has some leeching beams onto players

[soft abyss]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[dim parrot]

Can do for subjugators in seat too

[formal thunder]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[soft cloud]

!cdm

[cinder relic]

@wintry solar why do you hate WW

its so fun

[jolly geyser]

spinnu?

[cinder relic]

Try, fist of fury

[jolly geyser]

[crude anchor]

!prepull

[jolly geyser]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[unkempt dew]

Again no gaze from heroic raid

[soft abyss]

just pugged myth and no gaze

[jolly geyser]

just get it,its that easy

[vapid sundial]

didnt they have haste made good

and not a tax

thats why

they got what we want

[tight kernel]

@keen belfry did you ever go down the alch route and craft your own flask or was that too much work/not worth

[keen belfry]

it was easy

i have 3 chars that make my flasks

ill go make some rn

and see how many i make

[tight kernel]

max rank?

[keen belfry]

yeah highest

[tight kernel]

shit I might go down that route

where guide

this?

[keen belfry]

my rogue giga procced and just made 20 flasks

and i have 3 chars that can make every 3 days

[keen belfry]

yup

this was not a normal crafting xp but i made like 30 haste flaasks and 15 crit flasks over 3 chars @tight kernel

[river wing]

they also have a not-trash mastery that is actually kinda cool

[cedar goblet]

voidcore upgrades outside wowhead info is there anywhere else i can check

[dim parrot]

Just upgrade whatever weapons and trinks ur using since you can get as many as u want

[tight kernel]

wtf okay I try this. pots are expensive man

[keen belfry]

i dont make pots

i just buy the low rank ones

[tight kernel]

i mean flask

mbmb

[keen belfry]

ah yes flasks easy

i just realized i have like 60 flasks in my bank rn

kinda nice not buying any

might even level up my other 2 90s and sell them idk

[tight kernel]

so you need 90s for this tech or 80s

[keen belfry]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

idk are profs gated by lvl?

[soft abyss]

can you explain the alch tactic ? i am pretty unfamiliar with professions

[random stirrup]

you can do midnight profs at level 80 or something

maybe lower

my jc was level 80 for a while

[jolly geyser]

look up a guide where to put skill points depending what you want,helps

[keen belfry]

u basically make your chars and alts have some alchemy skill and knowledge and can fund your own flaks

flasks

with like an hour of work

level alch on multiple chars
get multicraft points knowledge from treasures and crafting orders
make flasks every 3 days
gg

[tight kernel]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/midnight/professions/knowledge-point-treasure-locations

[soft abyss]

I know the general idea, i just want to craft some flasks on my rogue not have multiple chars

is it viable

[keen belfry]

depends on luck and how much u play

but odds are you make like, 5 ish flasks every 2 days?

can proc and make 15, and not proc and make 4

[tight kernel]

Pretty much get like a few healing pots, recycle them. Then get some mats and do all the first time craft. Then go around get all these treasures. Follow this https://www.wow-professions.com/midnight/alchemy-specialization-guide-and-builds

Make sure you do Flask and Selling. It prios multi craft and boom

at least thats my understanding

[keen belfry]

but like ijust giga procced on 3 chars and made close to 50 flasks

this is my tree on my rogue

[tight kernel]

oh and get multicrafting gear

theres like 3 things you can get

cool yea seems simple. ty awang

[keen belfry]

thank @fossil lintel he put me on the path

i will do this eery xpac

i havent bought a flask

[tight kernel]

Yeah its bis

Im about to set rogue up then do alts

i feel like after i do it once it should all jsut be easy

[fossil lintel]

It's super easy yeah

[tight kernel]

so after treasures you get knowledge poitns from first craft and work orders yea?

[fossil lintel]

I have 4 characters doing pots as well, can get between 15 and 60 pots per character every 3 days

[soft abyss]

the 2 hours flask is when you get 5 points in flasks ?

[tight kernel]

15

[soft abyss]

it was saying 5 for me

probably when i take it to 5 i get something and then again at 15?

[tight kernel]

Prob

just fly around get treasures

youll have plenty of points

each treasure is like 3 points and theres like 8

[soft abyss]

ty guys

[jolly geyser]

more meth cookers for mains join

[warped spruce]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[near rock]

how fitting that triple threat defeats outlaw rogue

[torn plover]

Nice to see Outlaw though

[vast mauve]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[past fossil]

Is it worse to send finishers with <7 CP, or overcap CP?

Like let's say I use sinister and I end up at 6 / 7 CP. Pistol shot would overcap by like 5, and if I use sinister again I have a high chance of getting a double swing and going over. Should I send at 6, or overcap?

Or let's say I have 5/7 and I have hidden opportunity up that would overcap by 1, and pistol shot has procced and would overcap by like 3. Should I send at 5, or just push a button then send? 🤔

[quaint sable]

U spend at 6/7 cp always

if ur playing fb and ur next finisher is dispatch u can finish at 5

If u only have 3/6 opp stacks then u can ss instead of psing at 4+ to not waste cp.

[quaint sable]

in the example u gave. You would sinister strike, if ur playing trickster or if ur fatebound and ur next finisher is a dispatch (aka BtE is on cd).

If u meant that u have 6/6 opp stacks then u would pistol shot and just eat the wasted cp

[past fossil]

Okay, cool, ty

[waxen scarab]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[craggy barn]

if my custom apl is correct, its not much different in a dungeon route sim

slightly bigger delta on both ends in overal
but worse delta in prio/boss dam

[smoky venture]

!guidon

[craggy barn]

wrong chat

[smoky venture]

Nah its the right one

I want to know why Tom Elvis runs it over heroic pluime

[craggy barn]

it simmed better for him

[smoky venture]

or plume in general

[craggy barn]

he also doesnt have a plume

[smoky venture]

I nearly have identical gear and it doesnt for me

[smoky venture]

I doubt that

[craggy barn]

he doesnt have plume, and its better than any of the hero trinkets he does have

idk he hasnt had a plume for quite a while

[gaunt phoenix]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s2iz7Ws1qdvY52sE9Q4daz

its like the same as a heroic plume in this scenario

[formal thunder]

45 min??

[gaunt phoenix]

it's a dungeonroute sim

[craggy barn]

solo can u check my apl https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xmMcFbnRovRoDKBAeZybZR

[gaunt phoenix]

why would you want to finish early to kir a 3?

the 3 is not going anywhere

unless it's going to expire within the next finisher?

[craggy barn]

oh right

[gaunt phoenix]

the apl seems fine but it's happening 0.3 times per iteration

[craggy barn]

i forgot about that

yea i expected that

is there a rtb_buffs remains?

[gaunt phoenix]

if it's going to expire i would do it

i don't think it's going to be caught in sim though

[craggy barn]

yea i dont think so either, but wanted to check

i just forgot about the expire thing

[gaunt phoenix]

not enough to influence the average

there is buff.roll_the_bones.remains

[craggy barn]

ah bet

[gaunt phoenix]

because you are at stage 3, you could check combo_points*1.4

which is what the restless blades reduction would be

[craggy barn]

gotcha

also i dont need the full apl each time right

jsut the part i would change?

[weak elk]

What am I doing wrong? I cannot seem to put out respectable damage

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LacGPphxX8yrwqCJ?fight=last

[gaunt phoenix]

you paste the full apl once after the rogue=tomelvis and then when you copy= you can paste the subsection that is changing, in this case the actions list

[unkempt iris]

Was your tank constantly rolling or was there downtime between pulls? Also 8 1 buff rolls is pretty bad, ideally you should never have any but again that depends on route and how your tank pulls

Unfortunately outlaw is one of those specs where being pulled around for you is required for elite dmg

But also tbf you can kinda make that argument for every spec, we just get punished the hardest for downtime aside from maybe devo

[craggy barn]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6DGRnapnYAaZVF5XGTjW74

lol yep no diff from playing normally

but should be a gain in the moment anyways because sims cant realy capture this uncommon case

[rich cliff]

is outlaw largely unchanged

seems i have a few different buttons now

[craggy barn]

from tww?

the biggest changes are no crackshot windows / vanish stuff
and rtb is different

[rich cliff]

yea, tww

yeah rtb is like stages now?

[craggy barn]

its 4 different roll values

[rich cliff]

so i can;t make a weakarua that just put's a big as 1 2 3 4 on it

does the icon have more dice for each stage

can i go off that

lol

[craggy barn]

yes

different colors

[unkempt iris]

Rtb is less impactful on your rotation, it actually doesnt affect it at all aside from accelerating it when you get a 3 or 4 set, vanish is never used unless defensively

[craggy barn]

1 purple
2 red
3 orange
4 yellow

[unkempt iris]

^

[craggy barn]

1 is 1 dice
2 is 2 dice
3 is 3 dice
4 is one dice but yellow

[rich cliff]

couldnt have j ust kept up the 1 2 3 4 huh

thanks blizz

[craggy barn]

4 is one dice but shiny and yellow where as 1 is dull and purple

each 'stage' inherits the bonuses from the lower stages

[rich cliff]

oh ok so its one BIG die

turns out the sub mastery build from tww

makes gauche go off

lmao

[weak elk]

was a pug so lotta downtime. i just feel like i can never pump out good consistent damage. feel like im all over the place. but ty for the response

[unkempt iris]

Dont beat urself up, if you timed a 16 pug thats all that matters. Like i said if you really wanna crank, you need a group that is gonna maintain your uptime and also mystic touch/shout goes a LONG way

[unkempt iris]

Yeahhh u do NOT want mastery, i remember when i swapped from sub to law because they ruined sub this expac… mannn my gauche was topping the meter by a lot in st 😭😭😭

[blissful idol]

@vivid vessel

[weak elk]

hey question, if we get a BTE reset with 5 CP do we build to 6 or 7?

or send

[craggy barn]

build

[weak elk]

ty

[unkempt iris]

https://tenor.com/view/67-gif-15604862138428950101

This spec is doomed man

[cinder relic]

Why?

[unkempt iris]

Because we’re fated to always talk about 67 in here…

A burden we must carry… the other rogue specs wouldnt understand 😿

[gaunt palm]

Is BF worth CP builder if only 1 target? like POS 1. boss or MC 2. boss with funnel mobs?

[glass mortar]

3+ targets to use bf purely for cp gen I believe

But its in the faq

[gaunt palm]

Well the FAQ is aoe oriented, but if all that matters is dps on 1 single target, idk if SS/PS has higher value

[vivid vessel]

it is

outlaw gain about 6%

in aoe

funnel

[gaunt palm]

go back to your AA practice

but thanks

[nocturne kraken]

Is there an addon to track what stage of RTB im in?

[steep shell]

!stats

[ornate heath]

Outlaw's stat prio is generally Crit > Haste* > Vers >= Mastery.

• You need ~21-23% haste for energy, this has priority over crit. That's the haste on your stat page after talents/buffs/flask.
• Crit is then your best stat until you approach ~40%, from there random vers or mastery pieces will be similar.
• You have to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine the exact combination of pieces to use.

[craggy barn]

the base cooldown manager

[unkempt iris]

Use luxthos’ cooldown manager profile its really nice imo

[cedar bone]

why is the goat using Gouge?

[craggy barn]

another control button for st lockdown

sometimes u just need to lock 1 thing down

not a whole pack

aoe stops arent as important as they used to be

especially in the pulls zac group does

[placid vapor]

Does gouge go through "shielded" casts like, the ghost pulsing aoe in windrunner spire, where u need to bring down a shield then you can kick it, does gouge prevent the "kill shield first" ?

[mental glacier]

what is the thought on the murder row fish hook? any good or we better off just using krick dagger?

[craggy barn]

no

that mob is cc immune

regardless of shield

[gusty dew]

Is dwarf still good this season？feels like there's many bleeds in dungeons

[formal thunder]

so, is there any rhyme or reason to what damage Cloak actually immunes you to?

so far I found that it does nothing against Vanguard Holy damage and Jellyfish boss pull-in area

[craggy barn]

yes

[craggy barn]

it has like 1 second of full immunity on activation, any other cases where u can fully immune it are shrug

idk if vanguard shit pierces other immunities

there is a sheet somewhere for what cloak can immune tho

[timid idol]

can someone explain

how people kick with focus

or maybe

what addon do you use so hp bars stack nicely in massive pulls

its literally impossible to focus kick for me in some pulls simply bcs bars stack even tho i have the optioin for them not to stack

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[untold siren]

does feint (with elusiveness) also reduce magic DoTs? for example https://www.wowhead.com/spell=1258826/torrent-of-misery

[rancid silo]

Usually you put your focus before they are grouped

[timid idol]

but if theres multiple casters?

this was never an issue before this dogshit xpac btw

plater worked flawlessly

hp bars were one above the other literally perfectly

[rancid silo]

In a pug not your job really. In premade everyone gets their own mark

[stuck sparrow]

dont you just focus the mob

before a pull

[timid idol]

or maybe we dont nuke plater

yay i love no addon wow! (i have more addons than in tww)

[stuck sparrow]

Like he said you get a mark in premades

[rancid silo]

You aren’t intending to kick multiple mobs so just mark the priority kick

[stuck sparrow]

^

I just use platynator

[timid idol]

same i thikn

let me check

[stuck sparrow]

but you just kick your assigned marker

in any group worth a shit

[timid idol]

yea i also use this

so why tf do bars still stack on top of eachother sometimes

[stuck sparrow]

Just track your focus’ castbar

[wintry solar]

PvP

It's actually monk in its entirety

And their haste is actually good

Wtf is that?

So rude

[cinder relic]

It's lit man idk

I think everybody in here would explode having to press fof

[wintry solar]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simspons-homer-walking-away-homer-strop-hmph-homer-hmph-gif-25159531

If KS weren't guns and was good I'd love to press it more often

[vivid vessel]

vanis hthis

but yes

[amber ibex]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[untold siren]

thanks

[frail veldt]

I'd rather have fof than KS

Both shit though ngl

[vestal star]

w

[mystic osprey]

this might be a dumb question since WAs are gone now lol but is there an addon or a macro i can make that announces i have jackpot for the group lmao

[frail veldt]

You can manually press one

But you can't determine which level of rtb stage you have via an addon while in rated or dungeon content

It becomes secret

[mystic osprey]

danggggg okok lol thats fair

just a simple macro like /yell JACKPOT or something nutty lol

[strange kelp]

You can just add text to speech on buff application

Oh for group, my b

[soft abyss]

can you do it for specific buffs?

[strange kelp]

Because each buff is different it calls out whatever you roll

Unless you mean like only call out just jackpot or something, in which no, at least in CDM it's flagged as one trackable item

[soft abyss]

I meant more like have rtb be called out but not BF

[strange kelp]

You can do it for any buff tracked in CDM, BF, rtb etc...

[stable lantern]

what a disgusting chungus dungeon in terms of rolls

[next shuttle]

In high keys what is better: avoidance or leech?

[vivid vessel]

you play rogue so you have feint

leech

[next shuttle]

Ok, thank you

I miss 40% vers

[thorn parrot]

Same Kash... same...

[wintry solar]

Top 5 things I miss for sure

[rugged pulsar]

Just about to start prog on dragons. Should I stay outlaw or swap to sin for sudden demise?

[cinder relic]

What is most comfy to u

[haughty moat]

always this

[cinder relic]

idt the spec ur gonna play is gonna move the needle on the spec in terms of like

"making the fight easier yk"

Esp when its a mechanics fight

[soft abyss]

also assa SD build is not for prog

it's for padding and parsing

if you want to prog you go a normal build, probably outlaw is better

[rugged pulsar]

Ah okay. Thank you guys. I saw the sd build and was looking into it but knowing it is a parse build is really helpful

I'll stick outlaw

[soft abyss]

yeah it's kinda griefing for prog

[unkempt iris]

Bu…bu…b… but my parse!!

[haughty moat]

when they progress dragons now, it just doessnt matter what he plays^^

[soft abyss]

it kinda never matters

[haughty moat]

ye

[soft abyss]

maybe if you go beloren as outlaw you could call it grief

but everything else kinda irrelevant

[haughty moat]

i will go outlaw for belo progress for sure

[long bramble]

how do i get invited in 19s?

do i have to do some proibited ritual?

[unkempt iris]

Im gonna go outlaw regardless so when im on the top of the meter then im gonna flame everyone, especially our dk’s and dh’s

[sweet badge]

Yes, you have to perform the "Badilisha kwa mpiganaji wa kifo asiye mtakatifu"

[gray summit]

!haste

[ornate heath]

Outlaw's stat prio is generally Crit > Haste* > Vers >= Mastery.

• You need ~21-23% haste for energy, this has priority over crit. That's the haste on your stat page after talents/buffs/flask.
• Crit is then your best stat until you approach ~40%, from there random vers or mastery pieces will be similar.
• You have to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine the exact combination of pieces to use.

[olive talon]

I know this isn't an outlaw question but for M+ is there any profession that's just an easy intrinsic value like alchemy 25 for double flask duration?

[cinder relic]

Just alchemy

Nothing else does anymore

[plain portal]

yo bros what buff do you usually take in algethar

crit or haste?

[past fossil]

"60% chance to strike twice and grant opportunity"

Yeah sure. 😭

[stuck patrol]

I'm assuming focus iris embellishment damage increase from different gems is statistically not worth having different gem colors?

[jaunty notch]

I just take crit since I'm already at 25% haste

[lapis meadow]

spec ADD be like

[craggy barn]

i still dont have a guidon so i have been putting off pushing my sub score

[lapis meadow]

Sub is pretty vibes with guidon. Only reason im not an outlaw one trick is i cant play it all day, hands be hurtin

[craggy barn]

i just have a cringe box so ive just not been doing much with sub

[unkempt iris]

Yeah playing outlaw is unironically fucking with my ability to play guitar

[lapis meadow]

box is ok for sub

[craggy barn]

i know

its cringe tho

bc it doesnt sync well, it just feels bad being psuedo 3 minutes

bc i have a myth box i just play sin if im bored

but i mostly push law

never had hand issues tho

i have more hand issues playing specs that spam singular abilities

[wide shore]

quick q: I know we hold BtE for AR for supercharger, but do we do the reverse as well? i.e BtE has 30s left on CD but AR just came off CD

[lapis meadow]

no

[azure tiger]

Is it worth it to craft swords for outlaw? Have been playing sub for 2 expansions now

[lapis meadow]

send AR when tis up and low combo points as long as the pack isnt basically dead

[kindred nacelle]

is there some bug with tricks of the trade reverting tot he old 30s version?

[lapis meadow]

do you have the talent selected?

[lapis meadow]

depends on how much you enjoy outlaw, outlaw is in a good spot rn but so is sub

[kindred nacelle]

Yes

I have it selected

[azure tiger]

I’ve been having this. Sometimes the countdown shows 30 seconds for both me and the tanks buff, but it will still work for the full hour, but sometimes it just doesn’t work

[lapis meadow]

the 30 seconds goes first then it becomes 1 hr

[kindred nacelle]

No way to tell I suppose

Mine never goes the full hour now, the last two tanks its just 30s

[lapis meadow]

it still triggers the 30s tricks, then it transfers to 59 mins or something

weird, i havent seen that

[dim parrot]

You didn’t hit anything within the 30 seconds

That’s all

Same as normal tricks

[azure tiger]

Except it sometimes doesn’t. Seems to be more common in delves, but it happened to me today in a tw

[kindred nacelle]

Yeah I'm in M+ rn and I was hitting stuff and its not showing 1 hour

[dim parrot]

What does it show

Tricks tank at end of bubble never hit it again

Unless it algethar

[kindred nacelle]

Hmm, testing in a follower dungeon now and it does work fine again

strange

[rotund cloud]

if i've rolled pit for two weeks on assa spec but decide my heart is set on outlaw, if i change loot spec does that reset my dupe protection?

[craggy barn]

yes

u want the dagger there anyways

[rotund cloud]

even over a 295 embellish?

[craggy barn]

i swapped off of crafted oh for it

sim it

dont forget to replace the embel somewhere if u do sim

[dull geyser]

what’s over under rousy wins this fight

[craggy barn]

2

[cinder relic]

Yes

[dull geyser]

welp that was fast

[half sorrel]

hey guys

I just came back to the game after a long while. I want to start playing rogue and I always wanted to try my hand at outlaw.

I just figured I'd inquire about the state of the spec right now

[craggy barn]

its good rn

above average in raid and very good in mplus

not as intense as it was in tww, but is relatively involved compared to other classes/specs rn

[half sorrel]

is fatebound behind by much compared to trickster?

[craggy barn]

not a huge amount

pins has the exact numbers

but u lose out on perma tricks of the trade utility

which is infinite dps gain in keys

[cerulean portal]

how 🙂

[craggy barn]

not having to hold damage for pulls

[half sorrel]

oh 🙁 kinda wanted to play fatebound

[craggy barn]

can just blast

[half sorrel]

oh well, maybe next season

[craggy barn]

wothout tricks u can just pull threat on pull and die

fb is fine in keys just gotta play around non perma tricks

we were doing it before they buffed trickster

[dim parrot]

Just play fatebound then lol

[craggy barn]

like u absolutely can just play fatebound

[dim parrot]

Even in 20s FB would be fine

[craggy barn]

yep

the overall dps difference between the two favors trickster, but is not enough of a loss for fatebound to be trolling keys

[half sorrel]

does the spec utilize the stealth mechanics much?

[craggy barn]

no

[wintry gate]

no more stealth mechanics

[buoyant cosmos]

You can vanish some casts to make it someone else's problem

But that is a dick move

[past fossil]

Does coup de grace hit 3 times to match the sound / animation, or just once?

[craggy barn]

3 times

[past fossil]

Nice, I'm not disappointed.

[craggy barn]

u can vanish the channel after a cast on some spells in keys to conpletely cancel the ability

like the leech shit in nexus

[buoyant cosmos]

Yeah, you need to let it start to cancel it

There's been a few

The channel in pit

From the liches iirc

[cinder relic]

its like 2-3% worse or smthing

[past fossil]

So I can assume crippling poison slows more, numbing poison slows casts more. What does atrophic poison do with shiv?

I can't find anything online.

[buoyant cosmos]

I don't think it does anything to atrophic, or else you'd use shiv before a big aoe ability

[snow stratus]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[untold wadi]

outlaw good

[wintry leaf]

Numbing or Atrophic better for keys?

[wind pond]

is there any way to see uptime specifically in combat in keys

or is the best bet just comparing uptime to whoever had the highest % uptime in the key

[proven ocean]

What uptime

[wind pond]

sorry activity time

assuming active time on logs shows time autoattacking

I feel like I'm missing globals when tanks are kiting and whatever and wanted to check how accurate this is

like first pull of aa feels like you need a soul read on the tank what direction they're pulling shit out of circles

[proven ocean]

Thats because ur in a pug

Besides in that pull u should be faster than the tank so

He should be generally dodging the circles slower than everyone

To increase uptime

[wind pond]

of course

[proven ocean]

Idk how the new details/logs work cant help you on that

[wind pond]

it's not about being faster it's about course correcting and not wanting to course correct too late

[proven ocean]

I dont play now

[wind pond]

because they'll randomly do a U turn for fun

[proven ocean]

Shouldn’t happen unless they are hitting a corner

Or weird dodges

[frail veldt]

Yeah that's just a tank issue

Good tanks move very predictably

[sand berry]

if your tank is a freethinker with backpedal unbound it's joever

[proven ocean]

The tank is probably just new to the game

Not really a freethinker

More of a new born thinker

Or a noob one of the two

[upbeat mesa]

why dont more people go fatebound if the dmg is close ?

[wintry solar]

1hr tricks

[craggy barn]

the dmg is close, but it favors trickster, and people love damage

and 1 hr tricks

[unkempt cypress]

It's the perm md for me

Too nice

I wouldnt mind playing fb otherwise. Id prb pref it my blind cant see crap through smoke

[craggy barn]

fb would need to do more damage than trickster like always to be played

[upbeat mesa]

i feel like i get energy dry alot

[craggy barn]

yes

trickster is more energy starved

fb has an energy talent built in the hero tree

trickster doesnt

[upbeat mesa]

i wana try it but i dont know if a should in a 20 lol

[craggy barn]

trickster wants more haste to compensate

i mean

u dont have to run a 20

[upbeat mesa]

tru tru

[unkempt cypress]

I'm still waiting for them to bring back old acro. Still pist about that

[upbeat mesa]

i feel like more energy would make you do more dmg at the end. if you miss click even a few times

[craggy barn]

trickster just has burst with the cloud shit, so u can have higher highs

[upbeat mesa]

tru i didnt even think about the double fazed

[craggy kelp]

gonna need you guys to not raid tomorrow

[cerulean portal]

this is so sad guys

cant find team to do 18-21s

i wanna cry

[proven ocean]

if u can't find a team that means ur not good enough yet

start gaming buddy

because once ur good enough teams will be looking for you so

[cerulean portal]

i understand

can u tell me if this looks good or not

fb btw

kekw

[proven ocean]

i dont play wow man

stopped last season

might come back later

not sure yet

[cerulean portal]

i meant

any of rogues

[proven ocean]

what dungeon is that

@cerulean portal

ur dmg seems fine but

ur main gauche is not doing any dmg

[cerulean portal]

its nexus 17

[proven ocean]

u can easily compare with zac's logs for example

but

hes not playing fatebound

tf

[cerulean portal]

i know

[proven ocean]

u noob or

why fatebound

[cerulean portal]

the cloud fks me so i play fb

i ruined enough keys to stop playing trickster

[cerulean portal]

i am noob kek

[proven ocean]

i mean just keep playing

u still have 10000-20000 hours to go

of gameplay

[magic shuttle]

you might wanna try using thiefs vers instead of flickering on fatebound, should be a bit more damage

[cerulean portal]

ye i changed it today

i played flickering when had no shaman so i forgot to change back

[lament island]

should i be sending BtE during AR with 5 cp or is it always worth sending the ss?

[unkempt iris]

Because trickster feels like poop when you’re energy starved due to bad luck since you cant as easily take loaded dice, and then the tradeoff is killing spree which feels horrible to press

[hazy temple]

Wdym just take loaded dice instead of acrobatic strikes, it’s a single target loss but still better than getting atrocious rng streak

[proven ocean]

i mean no offense but most of u guys are rly bad and would use the low energy to get used to the spec more

it takes so many hours to be good at the game

if its easier to play then send it till ur good enough imo

[frosty python]

Can someone clarify the best opener in raid for FB outlaw rogue? Anything prepull? And then immediately at opener. Every detail

[wintry solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691817984246808638/1500980722247401544/67-6767.gif

6 or 7 CP always

Whatever builder is prio atm

[cerulean portal]

lol i just realized

67

[wintry solar]

It's a very topical gif lol

[timid portal]

Nothing special really, you just go adr rtb snd potion br build to bte, when bte br is on CD you use prep into normal priority

[unkempt iris]

And i do, still doesnt feel good that the choice has to be made for a terrible talent being KS

[unkempt iris]

Thats a pretty insanely bad take tbh but to each their own

[dull geyser]

terrible take tbh

[cerulean portal]

xenas 17 but trickster

😐

[grim spear]

wtf is this 'harvest' thing?
Was this really designed by humans?

[opaque scarab]

previous question about cap, yes it is 40% from what I've read

Haste flask if crit flasks takes you over 40%

[reef forge]

are we still going above 25% haste for m+?

i remember something about sims favouring higher haste

[worldly compass]

we take those

no shaman tho :/

[cerulean portal]

gj

can u share the logs

[coarse swift]

ive seen people still drinking haste flask at the 23-24% haste at 20s

[maiden beacon]

Is there anyone that got some lifehack,. to easier follow FL cooldown? And easier know when BTE is up?

I tend to miss these in the heat of the moment so scryuing up my rotations and missing that dmg

thank u in advance

[cerulean portal]

what is this

should i reroll hunter

MM hunter

[timid portal]

What cdm are you using?

[cerulean portal]

hows that possible

if u have 23-24%haste im sure ur crit is like 36%

[naive shore]

I’m learning Outlaw and don’t wanna deal with Preparation 1) how much of a loss is that and 2) what are the best talents to sub in for it? I’ve been using Acrobatic Strikes instead atm

[river wing]

naw
23% haste, 40% crit before FBs +3%

[radiant wyvern]

it's worth getting used to it, the extra loaded dice is much better at preventing being stuck on low rolls

[naive shore]

You know I did experience exactly that in my gameplay so fair play it’ll go on my bars

Guide advice is still up to date, slam AR, BR, BTE then Prep?

[radiant wyvern]

ye as soon as you use up bte and its resets you prep

[torn plover]

197K at around 280ilvl is the best I managed, I think some classes just work better if the pulls rotate around their CDs, Outlaw feels like it excels when things are a little chaotic with pulls I think

I only ever play with randoms though, never found a proper group so never been able to play pulling around CDs really

[radiant wyvern]

if you're playing well but overall is bad it's prob tank routing fault

[dim parrot]

Outlaw doesn’t really care about routing compared to other classes

Bad route still sucks but sucks more for any other spec I think

We just slam finishers and do whatever

[tacit sable]

hi guys new outlaw rogue. are we sticking to 6+ for bte or do we go full combo points for better reset chance? is it worth doing another ss to get to 7?

[dim parrot]

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/856897810536071208

6+

[tacit sable]

thanks

[cerulean portal]

and he was the one cheering "MM META NOWWWWWW"

[cerulean portal]

zac doing 300k overall

[vapid sundial]

i mean

looking at zac

and trying to compete

is just doing yourself a disservice

guy is french but

he play outlaw good

[radiant wyvern]

french debuff

[vapid sundial]

yeah

french debuff, u lose enough braincells to play outlah

[blissful gate]

13 BTE and Jackpot

[proven ocean]

Is that why i have no braincells left

wtf

[vapid sundial]

yeah

outlaw drains them

[proven ocean]

[radiant wyvern]

cap

outlaw the most stimulating spec in the game

its good for my alzheimers

[proven ocean]

If u have alzheimer then how do u remember that i disliked ur cat long ago

[radiant wyvern]

who disliked what cat

[proven ocean]

cap

[vapid sundial]

he got u there ross

gg

[radiant wyvern]

[vapid sundial]

owned

[proven ocean]

He said who

Which means hes lying

I clearly said i there

So

They call me detective ross

[radiant wyvern]

how about u detect some bitches ?

mt

[proven ocean]

Already have them in my..

[radiant wyvern]

truce

[proven ocean]

I wont continue that sentence

[vapid sundial]

if your worth of someone is based on how many they get

you already failed

[formal knot]

freezer

[maiden beacon]

yo man what do you mean

[gusty dew]

@vivid vessel hey zac

what's that gcd circle mousecursor addon ur using

❤️

[vivid vessel]

random weak aura

[gusty dew]

[timid portal]

are you using addon or blizzard base

[maiden beacon]

soo i looked i tup and i managed to get this :

THis is like a new game now

[vague cape]

I feel like ur bte is about to fly off

[maiden beacon]

what u mean

[vague cape]

infact all the icons are in the process of an unamicable falling out

[maiden beacon]

now i can see it when ready

[maiden beacon]

I dont understand

[buoyant stratus]

Ass

[vague cape]

the icons had a fight and now they're walking away annoyed at eachother

[maiden beacon]

Ah you are just beign an asshole

Get a life kid

[vague cape]

jokes aside why are they so spaced out / why 2x AR?

since bottom isn't showing cd, but duration

[maiden beacon]

not sure

[golden stump]

We spend all our rolls in pit? (Edit: nvm found the answer. It's pit)

[maiden beacon]

now i fixed it its better ye

haha cool

now it makes a sound when buff is off 🤣

[fresh lynx]

hi i'm new on rogue, anyone using ellesmereUi who'd share their profile with me ?

[cerulean portal]

kekw

33%crit 24%haste

and haste flask is better?

[buoyant stratus]

You should be thrilled to sim better with the feelgoodflask

[cerulean portal]

ye siming again

[cerulean portal]

u were right

[craggy kelp]

does bte have a travel time?

vorasius is the only thing in the game atm where my reset is delayed to hell

[cinder relic]

the apex refund does

[craggy kelp]

or I guess that would be the apex talent technically

[cinder relic]

Ace doesn't

[craggy kelp]

Yeah

[cinder relic]

Why? I don't know

[maiden beacon]

is there a way to make a sound when u get tribble threat or jackpot?

[hasty warren]

hi pirates

[jolly geyser]

pirato

[fresh acorn]

Wait so if the apex refund has travel time, what if you proc a normal ace while it’s traveling?

[vivid vessel]

i never noticed this happening

but it can prolly happen

you would get 5cp and a cp later

or smth

[mighty pivot]

since apex cannot proc ace, you'd have to rebuild and send another bte while it's traveling which doesn't sound possible

[vivid vessel]

wdym it cant proc ace

how do you know

[mighty pivot]

i checked logs in beta

[vivid vessel]

ok

[mighty pivot]

you'd never get an ace proc when you had enough bullets

[maiden beacon]

What are good dungeons to farm for trinkets?

[loud moat]

If you're not raiding/pugging atleast HC Chim/Belo, then Skyreach & Windrunner.

[proven ocean]

ok

Zac when will u come back to wow

?

[timber knoll]

Hello, if I have RTB off CD and have 1 or 2 lvl RTB buff, should I always immediately reroll the buff?

[unkempt cypress]

I just reroll 2 if i have loaded dice up.

Apl says diff. Guides i seen say thats fine so prb nbd

But always roll away 1 buff

[timber knoll]

so no loaded dice and have 2 keep it?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

[hallow spoke]

Btw. If we mess up BTE/AR timing so AR comes up first. Do we just hold for BTE to sc it? Or send insta

[wind pond]

yeah I'm gonna play some wow of warcraft (sit in silvermoon queueing for random 20 keys for 8 hours straight)

[gaunt phoenix]

if AR is ahead of BtE by 1 finisher you can hold

otherwise just send

[hallow spoke]

ty

[timid idol]

what the fuck