outlaw

[vivid vessel]

Haha funny tall person do basketball

[earnest sphinx]

[vivid vessel]

Also I'm french

We are tall

This ain't america Lil bro

We ain't all fat and tiny

[earnest sphinx]

Ur 190cm?

[vivid vessel]

Ye

[earnest sphinx]

kg?

[vivid vessel]

Are you not

I have no clue

[earnest sphinx]

i am 196 110

[desert tendon]

imagine being tinier than 190

i cant

[earnest sphinx]

absolute unit

[vivid vessel]

I never idk the word

Like

Kg myself

Wtf is the word bro

[desert tendon]

weight

bozo

[earnest sphinx]

Weight bro

[vivid vessel]

I never weight myself

[elder sonnet]

you never used a scale?

[vivid vessel]

Only when I go to the doctor

[desert tendon]

the scale use zac

[vivid vessel]

Like once every 4 years

[desert tendon]

that's how it goes

[vivid vessel]

I barely know my height

[earnest sphinx]

I bet zac weights exactly 3.5 grams

[vivid vessel]

I know I'm between 185 and 195

[cerulean portal]

is that true yall have a person for sex? no relationship

[vivid vessel]

But I'm not exactly sure which

[desert tendon]

LMFAO

KAHEDA

BAHAHAHAHA

[vivid vessel]

I mean can be true idk

[cerulean portal]

what

[vivid vessel]

Depend on people

[elder sonnet]

its france ofcourse they do

[vivid vessel]

Isn't that just normal tho

[desert tendon]

zac would you be my person for sex, no relation tho

[cerulean portal]

no its not

[vivid vessel]

Wdym

Seems pretty universal to me

[cerulean portal]

no)

[vivid vessel]

That people have sex without being in relationships

[desert tendon]

nah dude

it's not common everywhere

[vivid vessel]

Weird

[elder sonnet]

you have to find a girl to do that

[desert tendon]

It's definitly not rare in EUW

[cerulean portal]

do u have one zac?

[elder sonnet]

how can you find a girl when you do keys 12 hours a day

[vivid vessel]

No

[cerulean portal]

u do now

[vivid vessel]

I'm good

Girls are too high maintanance

[elder sonnet]

keys are his sex

[vivid vessel]

I was in a long term relationship for like 3 years

It was good

But

[desert tendon]

yea they need a patchnote to lower the girl maintenance number

i agree

[vivid vessel]

It's also too much time

Like it's fun and all but

I can't do that all my life bro

[cerulean portal]

keys better we got it

[vivid vessel]

I just wanna be alone

And do whavee the Fuck I wanna do

Whenever I wanna do it

[earnest sphinx]

And deplete keys

[vivid vessel]

Ye

[craggy barn]

zac massive key depleter

[cerulean portal]

find a girl that play wow

solo

[vivid vessel]

Ok but

[earnest sphinx]

imagine u find like crazy phys comp girl

[vivid vessel]

It's too much

I can't deal with it

I dealt with it

It's too hard

I'm not social enough

[cerulean portal]

we all know one no?

the italian girl

[vivid vessel]

Unfortunate

[elder sonnet]

yeah i watch her

[cerulean portal]

yes

[earnest sphinx]

wtf bro ur french ur literally born with max rizz

[desert tendon]

duuude

[vivid vessel]

Oui oui

[earnest sphinx]

No

[elder sonnet]

she only plays outlaw

zac's soulmate

[cerulean portal]

but lets be clear. italians annoying :>

[desert tendon]

i miss unfortunate clip farming in tww

[vivid vessel]

It's different bro

[desert tendon]

i mean

[vivid vessel]

Im telling you

[vivid vessel]

Talking to people irl is too hard

[desert tendon]

zac write 4 messages every time he types something

[desert tendon]

so divide this number by 4

[glass mortar]

thots or

[cerulean portal]

its not

[glass mortar]

fake french news?

[desert tendon]

Also fun fact, he got banned already or idk, most of his messages were deleted

[radiant wyvern]

just giving u a hard time lil man

[grim spear]

is there a cap on acquiring ascendant voidshard?

[elder sonnet]

wtf im from emirates

what does that mean??

[vivid vessel]

Americans lies all the time but nice try

[glass mortar]

being fat dont make u short

[vivid vessel]

I was never banned

[glass mortar]

not when ur young anyway

[desert tendon]

Weran living on the other side of the pond

[glass mortar]

we got plenty of tallies over here

[earnest sphinx]

Imagine if girls like cared about Hitting 9 bte resets … u would be da star

[vivid vessel]

It is

[desert tendon]

werent you kicked or anything

[vivid vessel]

No

[random stirrup]

@vivid vessel hmm

[cerulean portal]

it makes the thing u have smaller looking :>

[cerulean portal]

i can teach u if u want

someday

[glass mortar]

not important we arent having kids anyway

[vivid vessel]

I gap you lil bro

Swap to outlaw

[glass mortar]

now if zac was from swedan or swiss he coulda said that

tall ass mfs

[vivid vessel]

I mean I told you

[glass mortar]

goddamn nordics

[vivid vessel]

I was in a relationship for 3 years

It was enough

I enjoyed it

I maybe would have regretted if I never tried

I did try

I don't feel like I wanna try again

[earnest sphinx]

Big W statement

[vivid vessel]

Being alone is freeing

[elder sonnet]

how old are you zac?

[vivid vessel]

You have infinite time, infinite money

[vivid vessel]

26

[cerulean portal]

isnt zac one of the ppl who says "i dont want a GF" and then have like 10 kids in 3 years?

[vivid vessel]

Nah

Especially not kids

[earnest sphinx]

not rly sure bout the second part lilbro

infinitymoneyglitch

[vivid vessel]

Like maybe one day I find someone i wanna live with

[glass mortar]

if u had a wow gf it wouldnt cost u money either

just get one of those zac or

[vivid vessel]

Certainly doesn't include kids tho

Kids are legit for losers

[cerulean portal]

r u kidding me? they r the worst

[glass mortar]

but then ud need to do keys with her instead of ur team

hmm nvm

forget i mentioned it

[vivid vessel]

Ye

[cerulean portal]

u will be their mom for the rest of ur life

[earnest sphinx]

Deadass todays norms of like making kids at30 is fuckedup

waytooearly

[glass mortar]

30 is too early for kids is a take

i think people who have kids in their early 20s r def wild tho

[vivid vessel]

I think today's norms of making kids is fucked up

[earnest sphinx]

U need to scale a bit to like late 30s

[vivid vessel]

We ain't living in a world where you should make kids

[cerulean portal]

1 child is enough

for my nerves

[vivid vessel]

You have a kid?

[cerulean portal]

no i dont omg

[vivid vessel]

How old are you

[cerulean portal]

ty

[vivid vessel]

Old ass

Oh ok

[elder sonnet]

depends if you're living a comfortable life financially

[vivid vessel]

Nah bro fuck this

[earnest sphinx]

i mean try managing expenses of 3 kids in THIS economy

[vivid vessel]

Kids are just money gulpers that cries and shit everywhere

And you lose all your free time

[quaint mauve]

bro imagine having kids, theyll take all ur wow time away

[surreal flower]

True just get a dog

[quaint mauve]

u lose ur mechanics

[vivid vessel]

You become a slave to the children

[cerulean portal]

i have 7 nephews IM DONE

[vivid vessel]

Your life is no more

Your life is your child

So lame

[earnest sphinx]

This dude said u lose ur mechanics

[vivid vessel]

Ye

[elder sonnet]

lowkey based ngl

[quaint mauve]

its true

[vivid vessel]

I couldn't bro idk

I'm too egoistic

I wanna live my life

[glass mortar]

like half the people on the mythic team i raid in have kids and many of them were raiding even with young kids

[vivid vessel]

Do my thing

[glass mortar]

its not as bad as u pretend it is

[vivid vessel]

Fuck no children

[earnest sphinx]

u kinda go downhill from 18 with mechanics

[glass mortar]

it is much harder then most people realize tho

too many bad parents out there

[vivid vessel]

It is bad

[cerulean portal]

thats not egoistic lmao

[earnest sphinx]

Mechanical peak at 18

[vivid vessel]

I don't want no shitter in my house

[cerulean portal]

live ur life

[vivid vessel]

I get tilted when I have a shitter in my guild

[earnest sphinx]

scales down after gg..

[vivid vessel]

You think I can handle a noob in my own house

Ain't no way lil bro

[glass mortar]

ok but zac imagine

u could raise and indoctrinate ur kid

then in 18 years

hmm wait no

[vivid vessel]

Weran listen to me

[glass mortar]

how long does a comp sci degree take

in 22 years

crackshot back

[quaint mauve]

true bro, after i hit 20 i already started feeling the arthiritis in my fingers

[glass mortar]

make them the devs

[vivid vessel]

Kids are a construct created by big corpo

They brainwash you into thinking it's normal to have 2/3 kids

Just so you can spend more money

And make Elon musk richer

[glass mortar]

who was brainwashing people to have 2 kids 1000 years ago

[quaint mauve]

true

[vivid vessel]

It's all a construct

[quaint mauve]

thats why i live ina 4x4

and sleep on floor

[earnest sphinx]

i definitely had enough of cord for tonight

[quaint mauve]

and only spend money on my pc

[wintry solar]

They'll still be pumping out those classic tier recolors

T6?

Idr

[light mountain]

Imagine if u had a kid that u cld tell to do torghast for u

[cerulean portal]

like what? Vagina is a portal where all the kid souls cheering for u to finish? and then.. omg i cant think about this anymore

[vivid vessel]

Elon musk from 1000 years ago

[light mountain]

Worth it

[glass mortar]

u ready for midnight remix

[quaint mauve]

my little brother already levels my alts

[vivid vessel]

Sir Elon the first

[wintry solar]

TLT Classic gonna go HARD

[elder sonnet]

doesn't elon have like 20 kids?

[light mountain]

Had my niece do most of the renown for the lowdown coat thing

[quaint mauve]

doesnt he take care of like

0

[vivid vessel]

I think he mostly just make them and go away

[cerulean portal]

he failed the first one. why would he make 19 after

[vivid vessel]

He just drop them

There and here

[wintry solar]

Before my sister learned the word no, she'd farm mats for me.

[cerulean portal]

sadge

[wintry solar]

I should've told her there are somethings you can't say no to

But alas, too late

[vivid vessel]

All that to say

I have to wake up in 5 hours

To farm dog content for 5 hour

So I can play keys in 10 hours

[cerulean portal]

pros never sleep

[vivid vessel]

Fuck but if I had a kid he could be farming that shit for me

[elder sonnet]

you do it once then you wouldn't have to worry about it later on

[cerulean portal]

u r weak

[quaint mauve]

wait zac u must wait

https://www.wowhead.com/news/100-drop-rate-on-ascendant-voidshards-starting-tomorrow-381595?utm_source=discord-webhook

[vivid vessel]

I know but I can't wait

I have keys to do

:(

[quaint mauve]

[cerulean portal]

see u r getting to it 😄

[quaint mauve]

bro regearing is so difficult

i might just gear my second rogue

[glass mortar]

zac howd u like the movie btw

[wintry solar]

My nephew is moving my brother's character around. Soon I'll have another munchkin to do my bidding...

Just gotta teach him to right click plants

[grim spear]

shit our l'ura prog comp doesn't have a monk, gg

[vivid vessel]

It was very good

I enjoyed it

Everything that happened was kinda expected but I had fun

[glass mortar]

yeeeeee

i just finished reading the book today i saw the movie on friday

[vivid vessel]

Oh it's from a book?

I didn't know

[glass mortar]

yup

its by the same guy who wrote the martian

[grim spear]

what movie?

[outer meteor]

man not having any alts is so cringe this tier

[glass mortar]

project hail mary

[outer meteor]

cant leech crests discounts

[vivid vessel]

That's every tier tho Lill bro

You should know by now

[outer meteor]

i didnt play

[stable lantern]

hey guys im sorry if this is like a basic question but im new to outlaw, at what point is it worth saving between the eyes for adrenaline rush? for example if i have adrenaline rush coming up in 30 seconds do i just save my bte?

[outer meteor]

last xpac

[vivid vessel]

You need an alt

Ye

[outer meteor]

too much

[glass mortar]

35s

[outer meteor]

its fine

[vivid vessel]

Yes

[glass mortar]

its a bit fluid tho

[outer meteor]

ill just tank the -2 ilvl

[glass mortar]

30s is fine

[outer meteor]

287 is fine

[glass mortar]

35s is fine

[stable lantern]

would you say 35s is the max

[glass mortar]

38s would also probably be fine

vibes rule

[vivid vessel]

-2?

[stable lantern]

tysm

[glass mortar]

i do 30

id say 40s is the max

i never do that long tho

[vivid vessel]

I saw you were 286 after upping your things to 298 fizz

[outer meteor]

287 now

[vivid vessel]

I'm 288 before upping anything

[outer meteor]

after sending crests

[vivid vessel]

Thoughts

[outer meteor]

ye but

u are 9/9

[vivid vessel]

It's just cause of the alt really

Me being 9/9 didn't do much

[outer meteor]

no way its that big

[vivid vessel]

Ye it is

[outer meteor]

oh well

what can u do

[vivid vessel]

I hit 285 last week

Or this reset actually

Ye this reset I think

And just finished with alt

It's very op

[outer meteor]

ill just be maxxed out a lil late

its fine

[quaint wharf]

i had fun

didnt kir btw

[grim spear]

the most op thing is still to roll alleria to get that necklace, straight up 80 free crests

[dire idol]

Would anyone be able to help me out with a log review for why I absolutely pooped my parse

[desert tendon]

guardian finally above 50%

[keen belfry]

this is my end of week

[desert tendon]

crazy how quickly people switch

[grim spear]

lol turns out everyone here looks exactly the same
me

[cold geyser]

If I'm not crafting a ring, which embellishment should I use on my second crafted armor?

[grim spear]

arcane

[cold geyser]

already have it on my boots

[grim spear]

hunt

weapon

[elfin obsidian]

is crafted weap still 4 ilvl behind if voidforged?

[grim spear]

yes

[elfin obsidian]

dang

[cold geyser]

I have BIS weapons, or I'd use hunt

thus the dilemma

and managed to get the DPS set rings

[grim spear]

oh bis is crafted dagger with hunt

[cold geyser]

I thought Beetle Stabber was BIS?

[grim spear]

.fuu

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[elfin obsidian]

for me, double arcano sims better ngl

[gaunt phoenix]

its the same shit

[cold geyser]

oh, we can double it up?

guess that works too then

[elfin obsidian]

btw, does any1 know if we can "re-upgrade" if we e.g. loot a better weap out of vault?

after using voidforge

[cerulean portal]

would be stupid if not

[elfin obsidian]

so its basically the slot that is enhanced, not the weap itself

[cinder relic]

Its the weapon itself

[elfin obsidian]

so if i wanna swap sin for any reason, i basically cannot because i upgraded law mh?

[cinder relic]

U can just farm more voidcores

lol

[worldly zephyr]

this energy is such ass

[elfin obsidian]

ahh, i thought they were capped at 4 items max this seaason

[worldly zephyr]

running out of energy in raid lol

[grim spear]

oh shit

progging l'ura without a warrior or monk, -10% gg

[random stirrup]

3 p4 wipes

[vivid vessel]

Bro what

Your guild is trolling

No monk I could maybe understand but no warrior?

I had no monk for P3 I wanted to kill myself already

[thin fiber]

the current grp im in has no sham/priest/warr/evok 🫣

[trim harbor]

Whats the cap for this week

[cinder relic]

Infinite

[light mountain]

voidcores are uncapped now?

[cinder relic]

They always have been yes

But wait until tomorrow after patch before farming them

[light mountain]

o wait srysry

i got confused thought u meant the rerolls

[cinder relic]

Yer

Diff system

[craggy barn]

i rerolled for guidon and didnt get it

now i regret rerolling

[light mountain]

i got stinky haste mast myth mainhand its so depressing 😭

highkey praying i get a better sword from vault bc idt my guilds reclearing voidspire anymore

[wintry gate]

is perma tricks bugged?

[trim harbor]

Did you melee the mobs before tank got to them

[wintry gate]

no

the buff isnt staying anymore

it just disappears once it times out

and i'm not sure if it keeps working past that lol

[pure folio]

u have to hit something for the hour long tricks to apply..

[rough oriole]

^

You have 30 seconds to hit something

and then it lasts an hour

[wintry gate]

oh yeah im dumb

[dusty magnet]

Do you have to retricks every pack or is it just that once?

[unique fulcrum]

when's EU reset

[pure folio]

just once with trickster

[dusty magnet]

Sheesh I've still been pressing it before every pack lmfao

That's a nice qol

[wintry gate]

if you have it macroed you dont feel it too much unles ur actually chain pulling

[heady whale]

outlaws doing good now?

[shadow trellis]

5am

[unique fulcrum]

Its 5:30 am and still no vault:(

[shadow trellis]

hmm you are right

i just logged in

[wintry gate]

yeah its very playable

[heady whale]

has anything changed priority wise?

[wintry gate]

all three specs are technically close to each other

[amber forum]

Quick question: Its better use a off-hand weapon with Embellishment´(hunt) or to use one with a higher item level?https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vifwy6ftSxGxfJeUfBTu4o

[pure folio]

#outlaw-faq

[keen belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1501612479481118860/1503972241589796884/Medal_S8hgbRn354.gif

[cerulean portal]

its still trickster for raiding right?

[olive talon]

How do you guys deal with the smoke cloud ruining your visibility of floor mechanics

[cerulean portal]

well we just die

[hollow bloom]

[wintry solar]

I look through the smoke

[olive talon]

How big is that aleria trinket?

[buoyant cosmos]

WARRRIOR

[daring yoke]

did they ninja nerfs the rituals?

[buoyant cosmos]

tier 1 to 4 yeah

there was a blue post about tomorrows changes

[daring yoke]

but t1 to t4 is nerfed already in?

[buoyant cosmos]

Wouldn't surprise me

Heroic / mythic / 10+ keys always drop a core with no cap

tier 5+ rituals and 11 delves

[cinder relic]

No clue

[daring yoke]

yeah i think like 2 hours ago, we average like 1-2 core drop per full party run. but now zero for 5 runs

[cinder relic]

Sounds kinda normal idk

we were doing guild ones earlier with nothing

[daring yoke]

hmm

[wintry solar]

Arent they buffing rituals?

Voidshards nvm

[wind pond]

this week I WILL coin a gaze

[cerulean portal]

#nevergaze

[dull ivy]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[kind tendon]

[cerulean portal]

i have both on my mage and priest

[kind tendon]

ooh

yeah this wasnt even on my rogue

was on resto shaman so easy choice

[elfin obsidian]

just did entire hc raid, got 1x shard...

[cerulean portal]

was that u in our group

[blissful idol]

is there a quest i need to do for the new cores?

[jolly geyser]

Got more coins in vault,prolly should have bought a socket. Oh well

[cerulean portal]

100k on crown (:

[elfin obsidian]

aye... sad story

lacked warr buff, so potentially 105k xD

do we get a 100% drop rate anywhere?

like 11 delves or smth... this is just ass

[cerulean portal]

ppl farming rituals

so i do that

[elfin obsidian]

rituals, aye

les go

[cerulean portal]

lvl 1

[potent estuary]

I thought I saw 100% drop rates tomorrow

https://www.wowhead.com/news/100-drop-rate-on-ascendant-voidshards-starting-tomorrow-381595

[normal hawk]

Tomorrow

[hallow spoke]

today is blessed. myth wep from vault + head/trinketfrom bonus roll

[near osprey]

how much vers yall have doing 18+?

[vast mauve]

does radiant plume turn into umbral plume?

[normal hawk]

You toggle it

[vast mauve]

oh, so it doesnt rly matter

then its giga vault lmao

[wind pond]

117

[wind pond]

my 7 am dreamrift did not reward me

[slow granite]

1 month into this char...and even in this vault no signs of Gaze
Imma be stuck with 263 trinket all exp atp

[viscid perch]

guys we must have 25% haste?

[silk stirrup]

Is this any good?

[arctic hollow]

Must have 21, 23 is better, 25 feels best

[slow granite]

Gz 😢

[reef forge]

What ilvl do upgraded hero pieces go to?

[normal hawk]

285

[reef forge]

Might be able to upgrade my hero pieces and save on myth crests

[unkempt dew]

I got the wrong MH from the vault

[river wren]

Sorry for the delay... Yeah the light potential. I'm not sure I'm using it in a good timing all the time^^

[elfin obsidian]

actually today

may 13th

"later that day"

[near osprey]

should i be running avoidance or leech? cause im lowk dying in 17s easily outside defensives

[elfin obsidian]

u literally have 24/7 feint, go leech

[near osprey]

yea

my friend told me to swtich and called me dumb for going leech lmao

[elfin obsidian]

just need to specc elusiveness

instead of cheat

and u good to go

[near osprey]

fs

ty

[obtuse schooner]

!ui

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
• Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent

[livid sand]

Mythic guidon in vault.. any good for outlaw? I saw Zac using it?!🤭

Or I can take saladbar Ring 😄

[midnight ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[pliant wave]

So good Trinket

[livid sand]

I know that I could sim, but as specifically mentioned, i saw Zac using guidon, i was asking.

Because for my Sub guidon sims worse then puzzle box, yet it is „better“…

[mighty pivot]

zac has noob trinkets and that's why he is using guidon

it's that simple

[livid sand]

When as outlaw do you use it? 😄

[livid sand]

Thats nice to hear! I have noob trinkets too🤣

[pliant wave]

On CD

[inland acorn]

when you switch to sub

[unkempt dew]

I have a crafted 285 MH and i got a 272 mythic MH from the vault. Can i upgrade it to 285 for free now or do i still need the crests?

Oh i guess no because i cant upgrade my off hand for free while i have an crated 285 item level dagger

that sucks

[inland acorn]

If you have both slots 285 it should be free

[grim spear]

is there a bug with brewmaster's threat right now?
i heard from a friend that the threat from brewmaster's self healing is being attributed to healers?

[inland acorn]

Good

Let them suffer

[unkempt dew]

Yeah but its crafted

[inland acorn]

doesn't matter

[unkempt dew]

[inland acorn]

it should be free till 5/6 no ?

[unkempt dew]

Let me check when im off work

Hmm sims say its free

[normal hawk]

itll be free to 5/6

[unkempt dew]

Aaight

But what's weird is that the sims say my off hand is also free to upgrade to 5/6 but im checking now and i have a crafted 272 dagger. I thought it was 285 but it's not

[blissful idol]

is ritual site tier 1 or 5 more efficient?

[haughty moat]

is the upgrade thingy bugged? i try to put it on my weapon but nothing happens

[alpine bloom]

Which trinket are the best for M+ ?

[river wing]

p sure 5 is better for farming IF you can just burst down the objective quickly enough to not deal with mechs too much

then again you could just not enable embers/obelisks and then it's real simple

[elfin obsidian]

u can just wait till later today. they implement some 100% drop rates. m+ 10 e.g.

[unkempt dew]

Do I need to pick up a quest for those things to drop?

I only got the forging the hammer quest I think

[river wing]

you need to do that 4 times

you have a counter near Decimus

[unkempt dew]

I did that

But got the quest again

I think

[elfin obsidian]

yeee

repeat

till u done 4x

[unkempt dew]

Hmm maybe I missed a week or something

You guys don’t have the hammer quest anymore?

[fluid meadow]

need this and at 4/4 u get your first voidshard and no more quest just drop

[unkempt dew]

Aah shit

I think i am at 3/4

[cerulean portal]

if use voidcore on crafted it will be 295 right? not 298

[unkempt dew]

Yes

[cerulean portal]

pfff

so if i use it on heroic 276 it will be 298?

[unkempt dew]

Noo

[alpine bloom]

is Heart of Wind or Solarflare Prism better for m+?

[cerulean portal]

prism is good

[unkempt dew]

285

[cerulean portal]

waaaat

[unkempt dew]

Mythic track goes to 298

Heroic 285

Crafted 295

[blissful idol]

how many cores do we get technically?

unlimited?

[cerulean portal]

this sucks

:<

[rugged wigeon]

Just farm the mace from nexus with the void core

[river wing]

yuh just a long-ish farm

[unkempt dew]

Nightmare preys give them 100%

Those wont take long

And do some T11 boutiful delves

[cerulean portal]

it didnt drop 🙁

[rugged wigeon]

Rip

[unkempt dew]

I got the MH from caverns

I think ill stick to that one for now

[bronze badge]

its better up weapon craft 295 or trinket chim 298 ?

[cerulean portal]

atleast i can upg my shit trinkets

and won do shit dmg anymore

I WANNA CRY

[south crypt]

Sim it

[cerulean portal]

when they fix the drop chance?

[south crypt]

Also im pretty sure you can do both

[unkempt dew]

What drop chance?

[cerulean portal]

shard

its totally random atm

should drop with 100% chance in hc raids

ok

Zac do not wake up

its all awful

[soft abyss]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[hardy thicket]

Do we get 4 sc charges if we prep then AR again before key starts? Havent bothered to test.

Or do they just overwrite

[mighty pivot]

it drops to 2 when the key starts

[hardy thicket]

Unlucky

[near trout]

hi !
I saw that a lot of ppl crafted their offhand and boots/cloak , i wasn't completely aware if there was was craft to avoid or must do back at the start of midnight so i back in the days following wowhead guide I crafted myth a ring and my main hand. was that a wrong choice or is there nothing to worry abt ?

[alpine bloom]

Why Heart of the Wind Sims 150dps better than Prism in dungeonslice

[cerulean portal]

maybe u r low on haste

[alpine bloom]

19% without Flask

[unkempt dew]

Its alright

[near trout]

thank you :)

[river wing]

that's why then

[verbal fjord]

25% haste is needed right ?

[normal hawk]

It says later on the 13th

That’s like within the next 10 hours give or take

[static crescent]

Does anyone know if the Voidcores just keep dropping constantly, aka can i just upgrade my shitty main hand and upgrade a new one later?

Also interested do they just insta start dropping to alts too

[opal badger]

Do we need to do weekly one more time before unlocking farm for voidforge?

Cant check I'm at work

[static crescent]

yes

[cerulean portal]

yes

[normal hawk]

Yes

[static crescent]

thansk Kaheda

[mighty pivot]

mafic is cooking again @rotund depot

[wintry solar]

I'm manifesting exploding him with my mind

[mighty pivot]

it's not very effective...

[wintry solar]

It's a work in progress

Why is armor pen even on his radar?

[mighty pivot]

no the best part is that he wants it for SS

[vapid sundial]

negl

i think anyone who says 'give us KS' should be perma banned from the game, the discord

and from giving any kind of feedback ever

[inner yacht]

i feel like ks could be really cool

if they made you able to cast while casting it

[mighty pivot]

he seems fixated on KS having a 10y range

[wintry solar]

Just gotta

Delete it

Ezpz

[mighty pivot]

rework nr2 let's go

[wintry solar]

Fucker gives me heartburn

No rework

Don't even bother

[mighty pivot]

tie trickster to BR instead and delete ok

[wintry solar]

A most preferable outcome

[unkempt dew]

Who is that guy anyways?

[mighty pivot]

the goat

[wintry solar]

Forum main

[normal hawk]

Is he talking about the old killing spree

[inland acorn]

No

He is talking out of his ass

[wintry solar]

New

He just says random shit

[inland acorn]

I will never believe, that it's a human and not Ai

[normal hawk]

Killing spree is where you like do a bunch of slashes but can’t interact for like 3s right

[wintry solar]

Shoot your gun randomly but yeah

[normal hawk]

Pass

[wintry solar]

Actually both, you're right

It's such a garbage animation

And people like it somehow

[normal hawk]

Nothing like less interaction

[inland acorn]

I really don't mind animation, it's fine

[normal hawk]

Man the assassin comment and the sub one are dog too

[inland acorn]

The issue for me is, it literally looks like frontal

And does

Fucking nothing

And hits random targets

[normal hawk]

Yea I remember in dragon flight maybe? The damage wasn’t worth using

[mighty pivot]

KS can be less ass just by allowing autos during it and removing random targeting

[inland acorn]

There's like

10 ways to make it 10x better

And we all know

They wont do shit with it

For next 2 expansions

We waited years for rework of this garbage

And we got more garbage

[wintry solar]

It's only positive is you can walk around during

[mighty pivot]

until the outlaw dev is removed from isolation and replaced with a new one

[inland acorn]

And use defensives

[mighty pivot]

still slows you btw. still doesn't say so in the tooltip btw

[wintry solar]

I'm not counting the ability to use defensives because that should be a given in this day and age

[inland acorn]

Should doesnt mean blizz would

Probably just lucky dart landing on YES

[normal hawk]

Maybe we mute Mafic first

[wintry solar]

The ability to use a defensive during is like

The most obvious thing

[normal hawk]

Then they’ll do something

[mighty pivot]

promote mafic to forum mvp instead

[wintry solar]

That they shouldn't even get credit for

[inland acorn]

[wintry solar]

That moga fella changed his name back lol

I guess the bit got old

[inland acorn]

Can you imagine the horrors if even half of

Mafics feedback was implemented

[wintry solar]

It'd just be combat rogue in its entirety

[inland acorn]

I think it could be worse

[normal hawk]

Yea definitely worse

[unkempt dew]

I think ill upgrade my heroic gaze to 285 if i get it. No way ill be doing the boss on mythic with pugs

[wintry solar]

You're right, combat rogue had a direction

That's my b

[normal hawk]

Combat was kinda fun in wotlc

[mighty pivot]

the direction was trajectory towards the garbo bin

[inland acorn]

Pug chim is not that bad

Its defo doable especially if you vet people

[wintry solar]

Combat, as boring as it was, felt like blizz knew what it was doing with it.

[mighty pivot]

popo = mafic

[normal hawk]

The cores are unlimited so unless you can both get sand upgrade mythic gaze this week

[wintry solar]

Don't ever say that again

What's wrong with you?

[normal hawk]

You may as well just send it on what you have

[mighty pivot]

rogue main

[wintry solar]

Ope

[inland acorn]

I don't think even popo is that cooked

And i don't think even he deserves such disrespect to call him mafic

[wintry solar]

At least I play the spec

He just larps on the forums

[inland acorn]

He is playing only PvP right ?

[wintry solar]

Random BGs ye

[inland acorn]

Imagine playing WoW only for PvP

[normal hawk]

Like ranked battle grounds

Or

[wintry solar]

If it ain't rated, it don't matter

[wintry solar]

Random

Like

[normal hawk]

Dam

[wintry solar]

Random random

Lol

[normal hawk]

Pointless shit for weekly

Level

[cerulean portal]

Is there any macro for attack nearest enemy? except the cleartarget macro

[inland acorn]

i think it's /startattack

[cerulean portal]

no not that one

[inland acorn]

wdym not that one ?

[cerulean portal]

if my target is far i need to attack the nearest enemy

so only cleartarget i guess :<

[true jackal]

so outlaw got 9%

this reset ?

[inland acorn]

previous reset

[inland acorn]

I'm pretty sure /startattack targets closest enemy...

[spare sandal]

does outlaw aim for 20 % or 25 % haste?

[rugged wigeon]

Might have to make an alt to learn outlaw, not enough crests /voidcores for all 3 specs 🤣

[cerulean portal]

if u dont have a target then yes

[mighty pivot]

/targetenemy

[river zenith]

does crafted 285 go to 298 with the ascendant voidshard?

[cerulean portal]

how does it work?

[cerulean portal]

295 🙁

[cerulean portal]

no 🙁 its not the one i need

[opal badger]

The hotfix isn't live right?

We still do t1 farm?

[inland acorn]

I might be speaking out of my ass but

I think t1 has already been nerfed

[mighty pivot]

it's like tab

[opal badger]

:)

[inland acorn]

But ofc, the 100% droprate is not in yet

[opal badger]

Ik its better to wait for hotfix but guildies have raid today so

[cerulean portal]

ye but u cant hit the nearest enemy if u have a target

[inland acorn]

well, best way to put it is

If you have free time and nothing to do, you can grind it

If you have anything else to do, probably don't bother till hotfix

[maiden beacon]

Guys, what's more beneficial opening vault as outlaw or Assassin?

[mighty pivot]

what do you mean by that

[maiden beacon]

Because daggers won't trop for you unless you loot as assassin correct?

But all trinkets are the same ain't they

[inland acorn]

yes

[light mountain]

it js removes swords/axes etc from drop pool

[inland acorn]

daggers don't drop unless your loot spec is assa/sub

[rose granite]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cerulean portal]

hmmm it does work actually

but it goes crazy

tabbing every 0.2 secs xd

[mighty pivot]

what are you doing with it?

[cerulean portal]

just clicking x>

[wintry solar]

What a goober

Trust me, I know goobers

[mighty pivot]

you can't make it only change if your current target is out of range. You can either have it always change target, or only target something if you don't have any (hostile/alive) target yet

[cerulean portal]

🥹

[vivid vessel]

XDDDD

Guys is it still not 100%

Do I go back to sleep

Wtf is this shit

[cerulean portal]

no

gm

[vivid vessel]

Fuck man so cringe

[cerulean portal]

4 hours in rituals

got 9

ok 10

[vivid vessel]

Xddd

[fallow sapphire]

how much diff in term of dps% between craft weapon and myth track weapon for void upgrade?

[unkempt dew]

But rituals don't have the 100% drop rate

[inland acorn]

Nothing has

Until hotfix is live

[unkempt dew]

How do we know if it's live tho

[proven ocean]

What are these shards anyway

What do they do

[inland acorn]

idk

pray blizzard does blue post or smth

[proven ocean]

Whats that

??

[cerulean portal]

item upg

298

[proven ocean]

Ooo

[wind pond]

guess I'll just not play today

or what's the point of this update

[proven ocean]

The update is to prepare u for the update

Once the update is out

Then u can enjoy the update

[wind pond]

and then only 50 more updates which break prior updates

and the game is saved

another .5 patch which reverts hotfix aura buffs mayhaps

it's only happened like 10 times they couldn't possibly be prepared for it

[cerulean portal]

well u know

they r smart

they force stupid nolifers like zac to play the game

KEKW

[wind pond]

what we really need is psychic link tuning

[inland acorn]

Ye havent seen it mentioned in last 2 patches

[reef forge]

are daggers just so good that +9 ilvl sword = -0.3% dps

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gu9TScvsLmJi179ZZQgbW7

[inland acorn]

!oh

[ornate heath]

A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of Zero In, and also slightly more Instant Poison procs. Energy is not affected by offhand speed.

It is possible large ilvl differences can matter more than this bonus so use Raidbots Top Gear when in doubt.

[reef forge]

can anyone let me know if i fucked it up

[hasty warren]

Hi pirates

[unkempt dew]

What would be fucked?

[reef forge]

guess im just surprised that hero dagger is that much better

making it difficult to choose a MH

[river wing]

yes

it's like a 20+ ilvl diff to see a positive contrib from a slow OH

[blissful idol]

getting there

[unkempt dew]

Where did you farm?

[reef forge]

i guess i just take the MH that sims the least dps loss and take that for when i eventually get a myth dagger

[cerulean portal]

lvl1 rituals

[blissful idol]

all day here

tier 1 no affixes

[unkempt dew]

Blink twice if you need help

[blissful idol]

bro i cant even loot

these people are crazy

[unkempt dew]

But you have a dagger equiped right?

[reef forge]

heroic

[unkempt dew]

Aah same here

[reef forge]

im hoping we can use upgrade of heroic dagger/trink and get free fully upgraded myth piece for 20 crests

im going to try anyways

[unkempt dew]

I have the pit dagger

And will be using the caverns main hand

[blissful idol]

wait

keep me updated

[reef forge]

will do

does anyone know if the upgrade just puts you to max ilvl or if it increase the upgrade cap to 6/8?

[blissful idol]

should be insta 298

[cerulean portal]

idk if i should upg my dagger

[blissful idol]

if it works we are golden

will craft feet for 2nd embellishment

[reef forge]

having it 5/6 already beats the whole purpose lol

thats what the free upgrades would get you to

if it works that is

[blissful idol]

ye but i can upgrade crafted

and then farm more

ah wait

i am an ape

or no

i wanna make it free 6/6

to make it 298 after

[wind pond]

shit's gonna have 100% droprate in like a few hours

why farm another

[reef forge]

100% from where?

[blissful idol]

hc raid

• 10 keys

etc

[reef forge]

huge

[opal badger]

There is hotfix that people are waiting for

[opal badger]

Fuck i had while post

[wind pond]

I was reading that

[blissful idol]

hell yeah

[opal badger]

I had small tldr for my raid team about stuff

I wanted to paste the after hotfix changes

[wind pond]

blizzard actually did the impossible

made me go from excited to get my free 298 items

to going outside

[edgy owl]

Hi, is this ring really BIS? I can't find a way to sim it properly

[blissful idol]

its the crafted ring

[edgy owl]

yeah but with iris embelishment

and I have 4 socket slots rn, but I don't feel like the sim does it right

[cerulean portal]

why vers tho

[timid portal]

you go vers on items

when you have 25% haste 40% crit

[edgy owl]

probably cuz of returning rate

yeah

[timid portal]

bcs stat dimnish

[cerulean portal]

how u got 40% crit

im 284 and 23 haste 38 crit

[timid portal]

plum gives u crit

you go crit pot

[cerulean portal]

[timid portal]

im also not on 25/40

but its pretty much how it works that vers will sim better compared to haste/crit

you can also take heavy crit neck from nexus king

and use haste pot

[arctic hollow]

Even with 40% crit vers doesnt really sim better than crit

[timid portal]

i mean u take vers on 2 crafted items only tho

and cape/legs

are ur only vers items

[blissful idol]

xdd

[cerulean portal]

im lvl 8

[blissful idol]

never touched them before in my life

[cerulean portal]

same

wow i got 2 in a row

need 5 more D:

[edgy owl]

so does anyone have the data behind that iris embelishment on the ring?

[gaunt phoenix]

what about it?

[blissful zinc]

guys should I go for myth guidon or myth prism? (after i get myth gaze)

[edgy owl]

like is it really bis? I have 4 sockets and it still sims lower than normal ring, but I feel like it's a sim problem

so idk i'm lost

[gaunt phoenix]

i'm not aware of it being bis

[edgy owl]

On wowhead*

[gaunt phoenix]

in my experience, the embellishment itself is just basically the same result as arcanowave lining or darkmoon hunt

so, the embeliishment itself is not important

whether you should craft a ring, depends on your current rings and other options

[edgy owl]

So it doesn't really make sense to put a crafted ring in BIS slot on wow if it's not about the embelishment, since we already craft the boots

[inland acorn]

The only reason to get guidon is if you play sub

[trim harbor]

do we know when will the updated drop chance be pushed

[blissful zinc]

ah i saw* some guy using it thought it might be good

[inland acorn]

Its ok if you lack haste, but it wont solve the problem

[gaunt phoenix]

i don't think that's important to distinguish

actual "bis" gear is 2 crafted items that you cant roll from pit of saron

[inland acorn]

No, but knowing Blizzard I wouldn't expect it before like 6pm server time

[gaunt phoenix]

i dont think the 2 crafted pieces matter much at all

[soft abyss]

there is no bis, just sim your char and follow robot

[edgy owl]

I know but I felt like the results were weird with the embelishment that's why I asked in the first place

[gaunt phoenix]

it sims correctly

[edgy owl]

ok so everything's fine then lol, thanks for your answers

[gaunt phoenix]

me changing arcanoweave to iris

[obsidian karma]

what should I upgrade after weapons? alnussy or crucible?

[edgy owl]

Have you set sim to swap gems? Cuz it deals more dmg for each different color

[shell fossil]

run keys til face falls off

there's no cap

you can just upgrade all the things

[edgy owl]

That's the reason I found results weird btw, like it doesn't change gems

[shell fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/blind-wave-blind-wave-aaron-elliott-aaron-gif-6207287813506390928

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah, it's the same thing

[shell fossil]

but maybe since the change to drop rates is tomorrow alnus nus

[gaunt phoenix]

i think, boosting an effect that does 0.8% of your damage, by a few more %, is not doing a whole lot

but i have to gem haste all the way

so my stats get shuffled

[edgy owl]

I do too, but the wowhead guy said the opposite, and since I'm new to the game idk if I can trust the wowhead guy

(sorry for caliing him like that idk who it is)

[gaunt phoenix]

coincidentally, his name is guy

[edgy owl]

plot twist : I knew it

[gaunt phoenix]

guy is always here. i can get that oddity corrected

nothing lags my work pc more than wowhead

[rotund depot]

These are worse than Trumps late-night Truth Social rants

[obsidian karma]

@gaunt phoenix what trinkets you think are bis now with the voidforge upgrades? I'm guessing crucible can't keep up anymore with 298 version of trinkets?

[blissful idol]

@gaunt phoenix would you upgrade crafted offhand 3rd or heroic belo trinket

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah, I mean gaze and plume should be ideal

[gaunt phoenix]

not sure, though i can run it through sim in a sec

[blissful idol]

would be amazing, thank you

[slow granite]

Can I upgrade not msxed items and then max it?

Or do they need to be max lvl in order to upgrade?

[normal hawk]

Rng bby

[lean shadow]

when are they updating the drop rates?

[normal hawk]

Like within 10 hours probably

[river wing]

they said "sometime today"

[gaunt phoenix]

probably on reset?

[shell fossil]

yeah also some people are reporting their weapons disappearing?

[gaunt phoenix]

[shell fossil]

idk the dude who said it uhhhhhh might ahve lost it in their bag but im not getting up today lol

[gaunt phoenix]

for me its the same result

so if you roll Pit dagger it is probably slightly ahead

[true dust]

!ui

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
• Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent

[misty socket]

Do you guys think its worth going 298 Blazing Sunclaws over 295 crafted Spellbreakers with crit/haste?
The claws sim 50 dps higher, but they have mastery so idk if its gonna feel worse

[gaunt phoenix]

50 dps

[blissful idol]

what do u think of crafting feet for embellishment and using my mythic pit dagger?

[gaunt phoenix]

thats margin of error so its basically the same result

[cerulean portal]

so

[gaunt phoenix]

thats fine

[cerulean portal]

it took 6 hours to get 4 voidcores

[jolly geyser]

[fervent garden]

I'm thinking after the change, 1 heroic Void raid and shouldbe good. No?

[gaunt phoenix]

i mean you need 15 of em

[fervent garden]

pick up all four

hahah

[mighty pivot]

you get shards of the cores, not full ones

[fervent garden]

ohhhh shiiiiit

that just put a damper on the morning