how do i sim stats?
#outlaw
sonic pawn
@cerulean portal 22% ? i assume playing trickster par for the course 😛
blissful gate
!fuu
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frail veldt
i have 22 haste and i feel like not doing dmg sometimes
ideally you want closer to 25%
stat prio is haste >= crit(depending on amount) then vers > mast
but we heavily stat crit haste p much on every piece
long barn
!fuu
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long barn
That’s one?
plush grove
Is recklessness pot better than Agi pot?
cerulean portal
ideally you want closer to 25%
idk how to get 25% haste
with the flask i have 26% but low crit
tacit fractal
Haven’t played outlaw since amidrassil. How’s play style compare to back then ?
cerulean portal
Haven’t played outlaw since amidrassil. How’s play style compare to back then ?
rng
quaint mauve
it’s so broke.
tribal cosmos
OUTLAW IS BACK
frail veldt
with the flask i have 26% but low crit
Yeah then run the flask lol
What's your crit
Also tbh it's unlikely stats are contributing much to your issue of low damage though
Outlaw has downtime when you have bad rolls/bad rng
cerulean portal
What's your crit
32% crit without the flask
frail veldt
You can sim which flask is better
But haste plays better so I prefer hitting the 25% first
torpid fiber
the anti-hands hurt tech is to stop mashing, but only some brains don't need to mash ime
frail veldt
Honestly the shift in gcd has been fucking me up a lot
Like how it's like slow half the time and fast the other half
Really throws me off
hardy thicket
I think delayed CP generation fucks me up the most. The CP from SS sometimes feels slightly delayed
frail veldt
Yeah it's weirdly inconsistent this season
primal holly
tender wedge
Yeah it's weirdly inconsistent this season
isn't that partially an addon thing as well? like some show them faster than others?
near osprey
how much vers an d avoidance do u guys have in like 17+ keys?
weak crag
should i listen to my sims if it tells me to stay at 21% haste and use a crit flask? or is it a must to hit the 25% eventhough what the sim are saying
sturdy tartan
should i listen to my sims if it tells me to stay at 21% haste and use a crit fl...
I’m curious about this as well
inner yacht
if sim tells you that its prob right. if the diff is very small haste might feel better bcs more energy on trickster
weak crag
i tried to swap some gear around to give me 20-21% withóut hasteflask, but the gearset with 23% haste and critflask sims 2.8% higher
ancient cobalt
i sim highest wit da haste flask
weak crag
yeah, thats why i was curious wether the 25% haste mark is a must even though simming says differently
tender wedge
whats the gap? if it's like 0.5% id' probably still go haste just for vibes
inner yacht
25 is where we hit max gcd reduction on adrenaline iirc but its stops mattering less and less as you aproach it
so sims is most reliable for your own char
weak crag
2.8%
unkempt dew
Why does my pit dagger sim lower than my crafted dagger? They are the same item level
lusty grove
molten oasis
Why does my pit dagger sim lower than my crafted dagger? They are the same item ...
Sim embellishment in another slot like cape/braces/boots/belt
unkempt dew
Sim embellishment in another slot like cape/braces/boots/belt
Yeah I tried it yesterday, but it still says I should go for it on both weapons 
molten oasis
Yeah I tried it yesterday, but it still says I should go for it on both weapons ...
That with maxed out?
unkempt dew
That with maxed out?
Let me check
nova sinew
go type !bugs in the sub channel for me
unkempt dew
That with maxed out?
-450
stone cradle
literally any sim problem: link sim
unkempt dew
I do it with droptimizer now. I’m in the car hehe
austere cliff
!bugs
ornate heathBOT
[Outlaw bug Thread](#1276315296159760467 message)
bleak rune
!prekey
ornate heathBOT
- Use
Adrenaline Rush to activate 
Loaded Dice. - As Trickster, use
KS to activate 
Disorienting Strikes. - Do NOT use
RTB before the key, you will lose it. - Use
SND during the bubble once the key starts.
cerulean portal
sick of this.
serene cosmos
@vivid vessel Sorry to ping you bro. I see you play Gouge on your lasts keys. You cooking or you find it way better than AoE blind?
gray summit
we continue to use os KS before key
verbal fjord
Why do i use snd during bubble btw?
I remember back then i only pressed it to reset ar but now
livid pewter
Why do i use snd during bubble btw?
so u dont need to waste CP first pull for it, cause our first finisher is BTE not dispatch
else u would have to press snd or dispatch with supercharger stacks, u wanna try to finish with bte always when u have supercharger ready
hardy thicket
Why do i use snd during bubble btw?
if you dont press it before bubble expires you lose the combo points it generated
when key starts CP gets reset
potent walrus
do it like 3 seconds b4 bubble drops
formal knot
well you keep 2 CP which is enough for most starts right
but might as well use it before
or did i just hallucinate that 
gaunt phoenix
You do keep 2cps
tall karma
!oh
ornate heathBOT
A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of 
Zero In, and also slightly more 
Instant Poison procs. Energy is not affected by offhand speed.
It is possible large ilvl differences can matter more than this bonus so use 
Raidbots Top Gear when in doubt.
harsh forge
really the only key that you will for sure not have it if you don’t send before bubble pops is AA
all the others you can start hitting something quickly
vivid vessel
Wtf you actually beat me by 1 lol!
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> Sorry to ping you bro. I see you play Gouge on your lasts ...
I like one more st cc
serene cosmos
I like one more st cc
Indeed, I forget you play in a comp with a lot of AoE cc
Thanks
long barn
sick of this.
Delete your entire wow and fresh install will fix it
desert tendon
if it persists, it's a windows reinstall angle
long barn
@vivid vessel what condition is needed that for you to use dps potion. AR+prep+>Stage 3? Or atleast The same without prep. Obviously, if there’s a boss with boost damage, you would use it.
vague tundra
so im a noob rogue.. whats the killing spree for?
pliant wave
so im a noob rogue.. whats the killing spree for?
Charge DS
vague tundra
ty.. dont know why the search didnt highlight that talent
maybe im a noob searcher too 😄
formal knot
so im a noob rogue.. whats the killing spree for?
what does prep into AR do
solemn grove
anyone have a good addon to auto tricks on tank?
formal knot
!tricks
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harsh forge
!prekey
ornate heathBOT
- Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
- As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
- Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
- Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.
hardy thicket
<:SUSPEKT:1197218497206427698> what does prep into AR do
Gets you to full CP again ig
vague tundra
gives two supercharged points?
long barn
I think prep is optional no?
formal knot
supercharges reset to two when the key goes in
yeah i was just wondering if im missing some tech because i haven't been doing prep prekey
worldly compass
vivid vessel
Indeed, I forget you play in a comp with a lot of AoE cc
i mean we dont have a lot of aoe ccs tho
i jsut think st ccs are good thjijs season
blissful idol
valid hound
do u guys take 289 weaps from GV? considering they're not the best stats for law?
tall karma
Hey guys is fatebound viable spec for outlaw ?
magic shuttle
ye it's pretty good in m+
tall karma
Damn just saw this reading the outlaw guide
magic shuttle
might be slightly outdated
serene cosmos
i mean we dont have a lot of aoe ccs tho
I dunno, seems more that my most pug group ahaha
magic shuttle
fb is like 1% behind in dslice (2k dps for me)
serene cosmos
But yes, I see your point
serene cosmos
Damn just saw this reading the outlaw guide
Aura buff of this week put them close
queen locust
is there a sheet or something on what to priorotize for m+ bonus rolls?
quaint sable
The Aura buff didnt change their relative strengh them nerfing trickster changed that
smoky galleon
!prekey
ornate heathBOT
- Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
- As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
- Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
- Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.
quaint sable
is there a sheet or something on what to priorotize for m+ bonus rolls?
Its highly dependant on ur gear but if u dont have much myth gear yet, then Pit of Saron is the best bet.
red tendon
fb is like 1% behind in dslice (2k dps for me)
But perma tricks
magic shuttle
if you want perma tricks fair enough
queen locust
Its highly dependant on ur gear but if u dont have much myth gear yet, then Pit ...
was thinking about this and couldnt decide if rolling for the dagger is better than crafting one and rolling for skyrech trinket or smthing like that
magic shuttle
i've been enjoying fatebound without prep tho
inland acorn
was thinking about this and couldnt decide if rolling for the dagger is better t...
Like Iker said, depends on your gear. You can also try simming it (droptimizer, m+ dungeons, +10 vault 272, upgrade to 6/6)
queen locust
ig if i dont have a mainhand myth track yet that should be highest prio then right?
hasty warren
Hi pirates
frozen aurora
hello, anyone knows how these changes will upg the dmg on outlaw? https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/es/news/outlaw-rogue-buffed-again-in-weekly-tuning-381519
vivid vessel
it wont
title is lying
ragebaiting
wowhead
need clicks
for ads
all whispyr fault !
its a 2/3% nerf
serene cosmos
hello, anyone knows how these changes will upg the dmg on outlaw? https://www.wo...
You are a week late bro
Check pins
long barn
Zac where can I find how to setup your ui
vivid vessel
do !ui in my chat
long barn
Ty
noble tartan
hi, is there any rule when to wait for bte going off cd? for example: if i have 7cps but bte has 2sec cd should i wait or finish with dispatch then going into bte? its the same for other high prio spells like bladeflurry and so on
river wing
I usually keep my GCDs rolling even if I'm wasting some CDR, two+ seconds of downtime would usually be enough to rebuild your combo anyway
quaint sable
hi, is there any rule when to wait for bte going off cd? for example: if i have ...
U never wanna be just doing nothing and overcapping cps is also a big no no. So if u have cps use a finisher even if a better one is coming up soon. Overcapping cps to ensure BF is something u should do tho if bf isnt active. But mostly with a bit of decent forethought this shouldnt happen too often.
long barn
@gaunt phoenix - is the 5 second double fazed instead of 7 second debuff a bug?
dim parrot
Is grappling hook @target macro a thing
somber fractal
Is grappling hook @target macro a thing
yes
dim parrot
Nice ok
somber fractal
you can find it on wowhead
rustic birch
How do yall position? I feel like im always chasing and can’t get any dmg off. I have no issues with the other specs
vivid vessel
<@921608341048930304> - is the 5 second double fazed instead of 7 second debuff ...
yes
doesnt make any sense based on tooltip
that it would do that
dim parrot
O
vivid vessel
@long barn
doesnt say "to apply fazed at low duiration"
just aspply fazed
fazed is 10 s
idk how they fucked that up
but they did
dim parrot
Zac did u listen to bang bang by IVE
dim parrot
Yeh
dim parrot
How do yall position? I feel like im always chasing and can’t get any dmg off. I...
This is when I lose my dmg too
Won’t happen with other specs cuz uptime not as important
vivid vessel
names
i know the name
hm
let me think
isnt he a youtuber
doing outlaw guides
or smth
vivid vessel
does
he
idk i dont think i ever really wathced a video of his
i think i watched his outlaw guide
upper surge
He's in my guild
vivid vessel
to know if he was spewing nonsense or not
but i dont remember now
was a logn time ago
vivid vessel
Zac did u listen to bang bang by IVE
decent song
dim parrot
Good
vivid vessel
the drop is a bit dispaointing imo
but its ok
good vibe
maybe i add it to playlist
dim parrot
Been vibing to that lazy in hell song recently
unkempt dew
Add some Griselda
vivid vessel
Been vibing to that lazy in hell song recently
ye
i added a few bangers
recently
im addicted to them a bit
dim parrot
Intermission good too
dim widget
!wa
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Resources:
ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
Misc:- Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent
dim parrot
Yeh bro
earnest sphinx
rustic birch
This is when I lose my dmg too
Yeah on dummies and bosses I’m perfect but when I comes to pack pulls I’m just straight ass on the dps meters
tribal cosmos
frail veldt
or it has to be on one character
One char
lone surge
my focus kick macro isnt working can someone give me theirs
hallow holly
somber fractal
aim for 25
proven ocean
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livid pewter
whats main diff between these 2 talents
vers is better dps wise - but u will lack in energy with trickster thats why its recommended to pick flickering steel
arctic merlin
is it possible to swap this out for vers as its better survival-wise as well?
if playing fb
frail veldt
It's not much survivability but technically yes
worldly zephyr
the muscle memory for outlaw has finally set in boys. We'll be a 1%er in no time.
rustic birch
What was the memories that you muscled
near rock
1%er of outlaw isn’t hard since there’s like 5 outlaw players
vivid vessel
1%er of outlaw isn’t hard since there’s like 5 outlaw players
but then that means only 1 outlaw 
doesnt track
worldly zephyr
What was the memories that you muscled
idk, just got better at maximizing number of bte and blade rush casts, messing up rtb/kir much less ,etc
thorn parrot
Yall go back to FB or you guys still going trickster?
gaunt phoenix
fb
vagrant saddle
he doesnt enjoy poverty
thorn parrot
The cloud cover is actually really starting to bother me visually so I think im going to run FB tonight and see how I like it again.
hazy temple
The cloud cover is actually really starting to bother me visually so I think im ...
set spell density to low
hazy temple
feels lightyears better to play
i mean kinda, but i feel like its like that wasnt the case in tww, back then i really disliked how passive the hero spec is. There is 0 sauce to it. the only thing you feel is the combo points
gaunt phoenix
cuz energy was better and FTH gave full cps with broadside
vivid vessel
that singular cp save the entire spec rn
gaunt phoenix
now trickster lands at 5cps permanently
vivid vessel
ye while fate lands at 6 most of the time
just cause of that cp
crazy !
outlaw should just have 1 less max cp
its not made for 7cp max rn
thorn parrot
its not made for 7cp max rn
100% agree with that
gaunt phoenix
and killing spree used to do 60% more dmg
radiant wyvern
imagine if a capstone talent was more than a 1% gain to take it on the hero talents that specifically use it
vivid vessel
I prefer it not doing damage so I don't feel like I'm wasting all my damage on irrelevant ads :D
vivid vessel
And then I'm in a pack with more than 8 mobs
Or I have ks turned off cause it's funnel
Also bf is 30% or whatever
vivid vessel
bf was still only 50% tho
in big aoe
outlaw was litteraly cooked in keys
just cause of that ks thing
you would go onto big packs
with big prio target
and do less than tank damage
with ks never hitting your main target
was so bad
(halls or arakara for example_
gaunt phoenix
i never really felt that bad pressing ks in tww
maybe cause AR was perma
so you werent losing it
thorn parrot
maybe cause AR was perma
Fuck I miss it so bad
vivid vessel
i mean im not saying ks doesnt feel bad rn
but at least i feel like im not losing damage
i just press it cause it proc trickster and gives me cp
thorn parrot
btw are you guys BTEing once your KS hits max CP?
gaunt phoenix
usually
thorn parrot
Ok cool I just found myself doing that and didnt know if I needed to let it finish or send it.
gaunt phoenix
the rule is to cancel at max energy
but you can still clip it if energy seems fine
thorn parrot
Got it
placid ocean
I was canceling at max cp
tight kernel
good rolls
gaunt phoenix
wow !
waxen scarab
guys on bird mythic, do we send prep for btes?
or wait for adr to expire then adr + bte again
frail veldt
literally
vivid vessel
:)
frail veldt
we have great devs
vivid vessel
hero talents still ruining the game
waxen scarab
guys on bird mythic, do we send prep for btes?
anyone? im mid progress and my dps is trash at the intermission
frail veldt
wow
prep isnt in lorrgs.io
rip
you can infer though
looks like people prepping here
vivid vessel
you should adr bte > prep > bte > adr again when bte ready
its 40s now
its what you do in your opener aswell
waxen scarab
its 40s now
even in intermission?
waxen scarab
intermission is 40s
beloren mythic egg
adr bte bte then prep bte ?
ignore the 2nd adr
waxen scarab
so prep always
waxen scarab
ok
long barn
doesnt say "to apply fazed at low duiration"
Sigh can’t have anything nice
vivid vessel
!ambushkir
ornate heathBOT
Builds without HO do not press 
Ambush because it does not proc 
Fan the Hammer. 
Sinister Strike was also changed to proc 
Count the Odds so SS is always a better global.
vivid vessel
bad spell really
long barn
Bah. I this the otl says otherwise
long barn
Nvm it says with hidden
near rock
Count the odds 
dull ginkgo
@vivid vessel for raids, what talents do you use when there is Add Cleave. like for Vaelgor & Ezzoak
vivid vessel
double bf talent
same as keys
on bosses with little adds like first boss
and chaemerus
i only take gm
dull ginkgo
copy that Appreciated
warped spruce
no outlaw rogues seen in the race yet?
thorny zinc
they played outlaw for 2 pulls or something on soul hunters
vivid vessel
ye !
west ridge
craggy barn
giga out of practice and on a scuffed character
craggy barn
ah id idnt see that swap
vivid vessel
thing is
outlaw wasnt omega better either
it was better for sure
but its not like it would carry the fight
was just better than sub
craggy barn
it wasnt miles better
it was also just harder to play optimally as law on that fight too wasnt it
craggy barn
ye
hard to play along with a harder optimization for that fight specifically
im sad i never got to optimize that fight on farm
never fixed my parse
vivid vessel
and it just spanwed invible puddles
craggy barn
the purple shit
vivid vessel
ye
unborn moon
So I was wondering why my dps was bad as outlaw… and then I realized I had puzzle box was equipped and I wasn’t using it… 😝
vivid vessel
they would have lost anywya but
craggy barn
yea
vivid vessel
they remade cause of neck thing apparently
they had a neck they werent allowed to use
hallow spoke
Btw, AA 3rd boss is the tick and explosion of mana bomb or whatever supposed to happen within 0.2? Our warrior got insta clapped today
keen belfry
they died from invisible puddles
from the graveblaDES?
vivid vessel
from the graveblaDES?
ye
keen belfry
mmmm
hallow spoke
craggy barn
oh right vexi
hallow spoke
like this seems a bit fucked or?
craggy barn
ticking damage before it pops to puddle
hallow spoke
fair so its just be 80%+ with def or what
craggy barn
health pot, just something
shouldnt be low when bombs are going out
esp if the knock back thing is next
vivid vessel
fair so its just be 80%+ with def or what
seems to be like 500k pre mitig
the last tick + explosion
550k
in 21
hallow spoke
ye that is spicy af
vivid vessel
!atro
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Atrophic /Feint in Raid: > Click to Open <
craggy barn
ty
vivid vessel
yes but idk
its not linked
@mighty pivot
drop sheet
and tell fuu to link it again
@craggy barn
can use this
random stirrup
its pinned in wow general
craggy barn
ah
vivid vessel
!feint
ornate heathBOT
Atrophic /Feint in Raid: > Click to Open <
craggy barn
i needa get better about feint usage, i run out of energy cuz i use it too much
vagrant saddle
unbind it, healer problem
craggy barn
unbind it, healer problem
vivid vessel
skill issue tbf
craggy barn
yea
vivid vessel
i would be in feint already
craggy barn
i wasnt expecting the insta dispell right then
vagrant saddle
or type in chat 1heal??
craggy barn
that was the only pack someone died to it
vagrant saddle
we have been getting punished for having feint ever since tomb
vivid vessel
ye but you feinted the next time ?
craggy barn
yes
i feinted SO early expecting it right away
LOL
no coms when thats going out at any point is rough
wait
feint doesnt work at all on the first pull windrunner???
buoyant ridge
guys - I have a question I'm hoping you big brains can answer - to get the Krick's Beetle Stabber BiS (Mythic) - It would have to drop from the vault correct? (or bonus roll if I have them) - but my question is - in order for it to drop from vault, do I have to run the dungeon in another loot spec or open the vault in a different loot spec?
sorry for the paragraph
craggy barn
open vault in dagger loot spec
hazy temple
@vivid vessel when we can upgrade next week, is it worth to upgrade myth with suboptimal stats over Gaze or Myth or off hand with correct stats?
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/outland/static
buoyant ridge
cool, that's exactly what I was wondering - thank you !
just have to be in the loot spec for bonus rolls when in the dungeon though right?
craggy barn
id swap loot spec before teh dungeon starts to be 100% sure
buoyant ridge
yep yep - my thoughts exactly - I appreciate it
vivid vessel
feint doesnt work at all on the first pull windrunner???
well there is nothing aoe no
craggy barn
i kept thinking salvo was feintable
vivid vessel
but its still 20% dr
craggy barn
yea
verbal fjord
Since im a orc rogue
craggy barn
i really just needa get better at feint usage and not over feinting
verbal fjord
where can i bind my racial too
vivid vessel
i really just needa get better at feint usage and not over feinting
same
for example
verbal fjord
like in a macro
vivid vessel
you know first boss skyreach
craggy barn
bro 2nd boss if ur on line is fucking brutal
vivid vessel
now i never feint the dot ever
even in 22
im just using vial dwarf and evasion
rest is healer heals
fuck you
vivid vessel
bro 2nd boss if ur on line is fucking brutal
i dont soak lines
craggy barn
can just cloak one but the rest is fucking awful
craggy barn
yep 🙂
midnight granite
Rogue is on bitch duty for lines
midnight granite
You just run behind the healer
craggy barn
every time
midnight granite
What are we saying
vivid vessel
You just run behind the healer
ye so you arent doing lines
you are just wiggling
not soaking anything lol
craggy barn
i mean, id hope healers would just fucking pre soak lines
vivid vessel
i take 0 damage
midnight granite
Ye
midnight granite
Just wiggle lil bri
vivid vessel
jealous?
craggy barn
ofc
vivid vessel
xhanon the goat
midnight granite
I think hes jealous
craggy barn
nah xhanon can suck it
he said interrupt mechanics should block auto attacks for 10 seconds
craggy barn
in that maisara the other day
he got nature locked
and said that
on stream
the fucking snake
craggy barn
fckin insane!
frail veldt
he said interrupt mechanics should block auto attacks for 10 seconds
tbh though
interupt mechanics
0/10
boring as fuck
midnight granite
Tbh gotta give ranged some drawbacks bro
frail veldt
blizz needs to do better
midnight granite
Afk idiots always complaining
frail veldt
about making mechanics less do nothing
midnight granite
Ranged is literally the easiest shit in the game, any ranged player crying needs to be shot
hallow spoke
just be BM hunter best of both worlds
craggy barn
stop casting is bleh fs
midnight granite
Name one ranged that doesnt have an instant cast
frail veldt
interupt mechanics is equivalent to those aoes centered on the mob
that you just have to move out
and wait
0/10 boring as fuck
non gameplay
actual dogshit design
midnight granite
Lol
frail veldt
yeah thats fine
I think all mechanics should allow for 99.9% uptime if you play it really well
anything less is just an unecessary skill ceiling that adds nothing to the gameplay imo
like for whirlwind type shit why not just have one safe space
like one sliver
that you can find and stand in
vivid vessel
i mean
thats what acro did
like is it really different to have to go out and afk
vs have to go out and pixel perfect outrange it
with acro
to maintain uptime
that was the cool shit bro
bring back acro
hardy thicket
acro was the coolest shit about outlaw no contest
so
Playing other melee specs when Outlaw had acro felt really weird tho lol
vivid vessel
who cares
they removed the coolest outlaw thing
just cause whatever
some random guy on top
wanted things to all be the same
fucking loser
hardy thicket
I mean it made so much sense that Outlaw had it as well so iuno I think it was a signature ability that defined the spec
No other spec got rekt so hard by not being able to keep hitting shit so was fair
vivid vessel
:)
coincidally they removed acro
and the game has gone downfall since then
fucking hero talents
and then next expac
deleting everything
it all started with the deletion of acro
and im not even joking
hardy thicket
we here playing a version where u dont need addons or WAs anymore at least
wait...
right we still do and now we just need 15 different addons and some github backend copied version
craggy barn
yo zac what dungeons do u swap to numbing
vivid vessel
pit and cavern rn
main bone
is there any specific reason i see some of our top ballers in outlaw swapping to the banner (haste burst on use raid trinket) since the reset? or just coincidence as they got it on mythic and simmed better than sunfire prism?
main bone
ah i see thanks, so if you got a sunfire prism mythic you would probably get better results
wait im an idiot
imma just go sim lol
thorn plinth
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kgBFhe77c2WrLH2a1ozo5s
did i fuck something up in that m+ sim that my guy rolled 1buff in opener? lol
thats low sim for AA
thats the route if that helps
waxen scarab
is outlaw the best at lura?
cinder relic
Prooobably
I feel like subs timers on that boss r really bad
And burst doesn't matter too much
random stirrup
I feel like subs timers on that boss r really bad
ok guy i ask this
im on dk now right
also 90s
it doesnt seem that cursed
end of p3 is a little troll but like its kinda fine
outer meteor
@keen belfry why no more streams cuh
vivid vessel
you dont deserve the wang streams
keen belfry
nice zac
outer meteor
wtf?
keen belfry
sometimes im scared
outer meteor
if anything i deserve it alot
keen belfry
to stream
dawn talon
bro streaming wow lwk sucks
vivid vessel
streaming wow is so cool !
dawn talon
the only chatters you get are people typing like, "build ? what do my buttons do ? can u file my taxes ?"
or completely clueless hecklers
hallow spoke
Just saves u hard drive space for vods
dawn talon
ye just dont answer them
dude even if i don't answer it like
raises my blood pressure
i can't take it
vivid vessel
i ignore half the chatters
cinder relic
it doesnt seem that cursed
It's mainly sectec and dance that end up being very wonky
somber fractal
!build
dawn talon
and then u stream deadlock and, believe it or not, ur chatters are typing "build ? what do my buttons do ? can u file my taxes ?"
formal knot
i only post dancing pooh emotes in zac chat
dawn talon
there's no escape
cinder relic
Like you can't send ur last dance on lura before p2 because she teleports to the middle
And then after p2 ends you have sectec ready but she's about to stun you so you either over cap on dances, or end up having to hold blades to have enough dances for your blades
Idk it just always feels like my dances are wrong on that fight
sturdy wigeon
!wa
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dawn talon
bro league has to be the least fun game to stream ever
nobody ever clicks on a league stream to enjoy themselves
compact olive
do we just never press ambush
random stirrup
And then after p2 ends you have sectec ready but she's about to stun you so you ...
hmm we send rm/pillar right as p2 ends and only get like 3s out of it but at least the rm still pops
dawn talon
they legit click ur stream to torture u
random stirrup
maybe it is just a sub thing
somber fractal
do we just never press ambush
never
random stirrup
45/90 seems good
random stirrup
raises my blood pressure
i love the ones that go into yoda's stream for ex. and ask "i have 815 haste 115 mastery 692 vers 555 crit can i tank the tankbuster on first boss seat with only this cd up in a +14?"
devious ragebait
dawn talon
dude i can't take it man
im in the middle of the most stressful key of my life and i have a chatter asking me if 0.0001% dps is worth just fucking dying to white hits
cinder relic
maybe it is just a sub thing
It's only a sub thing
It's not about blades being bad
Blades usage is fine, lines up with lust and
But with kill timers shortening you only get 1 blades in p3
U end up holding to start of p4
dawn talon
i love the ones that go into yoda's stream for ex. and ask "i have 815 haste 115...
any time there's a tank trinket it's 10000x worse
cinder relic
Rather than getting 1 at the end of both
Which is another awkward part but any 1:30 has that
floral crown
im in the middle of the most stressful key of my life and i have a chatter askin...
visit your stream and ask dumb questions
dawn talon
do u need cheat trinket to live in a +6? or is absorb trinket better?
mr streamer can u actually just pilot my character for me ?
random stirrup
HAHA the days of asking about cheat on vdh
random stirrup
Which is another awkward part but any 1:30 has that
ye my thinking for prog at least is if we push that fast
i dont need the 90 there anyway
if we need it to skip memory game I will just send
craggy barn
pop quiz
random stirrup
you only get 1 use in p4 either iirc
craggy barn
if i say 1st and 2nd lines, what do u think i mean
cinder relic
ye my thinking for prog at least is if we push that fast
I feel like with gear it's impossible to not skip that last memory game
Like we skip both of the last ones rn
Even on prog we skipped the 2nd last
random stirrup
oh yeah our boss is exploding
cinder relic
And that part makes 1:39s worse
random stirrup
our boss is like 35% before we even lust
that thing is just dying
constellation/memory game gamba highroll into being normal in p4 
vivid vessel
im killing tmrw unless big noob
keen belfry
Ryldd my guild is on crown now
random stirrup
we will get 298 weapon on reset and boss will giga explode
random stirrup
Can u give me tips to raid lead them
ok actually though
vivid vessel
we were like 1 mechanic from seeing p4 first time
we saw one p4
random stirrup
your melee need to not be pigs and bait obelisk right
vivid vessel
and obviously one guy failed the stars imediately
random stirrup
and not stand in swirls
random stirrup
and obviously one guy failed the stars imediately
we are mad coping about a guild we know who killed first p4 try
vivid vessel
we are mad coping about a guild we know who killed first p4 try
ye i mean its def possible
random stirrup
and thinking that will happen to us
vivid vessel
but like
random stirrup
but i know
vivid vessel
in practice
random stirrup
i know
keen belfry
your melee need to not be pigs and bait obelisk right
Fine
vivid vessel
our raid leader also didnt call us to move early enough
so half the raid died to big beam
hollow lava
I'm doing terribly as outlaw. What are the main things I should do or watch out for? Any tips help
random stirrup
idk our raid team just doesnt prep that much
vivid vessel
random stirrup
i still doubt that half of them have even rewatched p4 since liquid kill
i have little faith in the p4 dream oneshot
cinder relic
I'm doing terribly as outlaw. What are the main things I should do or watch out ...
Low apm
Just not monitoring all the random stuff
Bte CD, KS CD, proper finishers, stats, rtb
maiden beacon
Guys I feel like am off, anyone kind enough to check my sim and give me some pointers?
am siming with 5 bosses for 2 min at 330k dps
at 270 IL
:/
maiden beacon
Yeah man
random stirrup
puzzle box is quite unfortunate
maiden beacon
yeah bc i cant get passed maybe 240k dps after like 3 min hitting the dummies
maiden beacon
puzzle box is quite unfortunate
i never click it
standing still mid fight haha such a odd trinket
gaunt phoenix
well ur sim is fully raid buffed + lust + consumables
somber fractal
higher than sim, irl clanker confirmed
urban oyster
do you swap from wound -> instant right before 2nd boss in seat ?
vivid vessel
before first boss you mean
it doesnt do anything after first packs no ?
tho i always forget to use it in seat
urban oyster
ok before first boss then re apply ? i heard somewhere the bird things and the shadowstalkers or w/e do heals
it prob doesnt matter that much tbh its only like a 16
vivid vessel
shadowstalker are healing when they channel that cast
but you should insta kick it or any cc
urban oyster
true
urban oyster
ya i think i saw in woxtoxic vid maybe ?
not sure
prob still just better to instant ig
vivid vessel
ye its true
they heal
i dont think its worth to use wound tho
cause
they die before other mobs
so they are essentially just funnel
if anything you would rather not have wound for them
for example we purposely take 2 troll on first boss caverns
because they heal themseleves
so they are the longest lasting mobs
and for shadowstalkers idk
could be argued
but again if you interupt them insta
they dont heal so
tight wasp
@vivid vessel would appreciate if u checked my dm mate !
urban oyster
makes sense actually ty for insight
hardy thicket
what the fuck did they do to guardian druids
long barn
Wait I thought wound was only good start to boss 1 in caverns
long barn
It’s good in seat?
long barn
For the debuff heal?
vivid vessel
yep
long barn
Indeed
long barn
Forgot as well
clear tulip
is the log review still !logreview? I feel like this season i havent been able to get a flow for law bs previous
clear tulip
!logreview
radiant wyvern
me when i press crimson vial
summer nimbus
swap before first boss
there are some subjugator pulls after first boss so could swap back after
maiden beacon
Guys, how many voidcore thingys for the free-roll can u get up until this week? If u never had any?
summer nimbus
u can look in ur currency tab and find nebulous voidcore
maiden beacon
it say /6
summer nimbus
6 is max u can get currently
summer nimbus
well u can get a voidcore from vault every week so could theoretically have 9 by now
vivid vessel
- the 2 refunded
summer nimbus
oh yea
summer nimbus
i did not get that
vivid vessel
me neither
i did the smart thing of waiting till it was fixed
turns out it wasnt smart
random stirrup
i did the smart thing of waiting till it was fixed
big noob!
random stirrup
i got gaze for free!
vivid vessel
next time !
random stirrup
big refund
random stirrup
abuse early, if it goes bad they save you
vivid vessel
i got gaze for free!
i cant complain tbf
random stirrup
if it goes good they dont take from you
random stirrup
you're like a bank in the 2009 crisis
random stirrup
my bonus roll luck is kind of insane ngl
random stirrup
my main got gaze with the cheat rolls
random stirrup
my alt needed pit neck for discount for main, got it first try
vivid vessel
full gear
random stirrup
my dh goes nexus to get rings for that discount, only takes 3 rolls
vivid vessel
66% chance i have all the items from lura i need
banger
wait is that how math works
ye prolly
vivid vessel
my alt needed pit neck for discount for main, got it first try
ye
i went nexus
for ring aswell
on alt
for discount
got it first try
im goated bro
vivid vessel
goat
ryldder listen right
imma roll lrua tomorrow
and im getting head
with socket
and double leech proc
random stirrup
random stirrup
now we will surely be able to take skyreach 2nd guy beam
vivid vessel
since it has leech baseline
random stirrup
with big leech
vivid vessel
also makes me a bit sad that i cant just roll every week on bosses
to get tertiaries
lol
like next week i should get all the items i need 100%
and then what do i do with my last coins
i guess roll every dungeon gear
for tertiary
random stirrup
The rich just want to get richer huh
fathom bramble
im actually wondering if it can roll leech btw lol
it seems to be an actual tertiary that is preserved when you catalyze it so maybe not
vivid vessel
but i have seen it with avoidance tho
fathom bramble
the last items like this that actually could roll another leech roll had the stat as part of the base item and it wasn't kept on catalyz
interesting
maybe then
fathom bramble
okay then double leech might be on the table
vagrant saddle
seeing people talk about good coins is depressing, I have gotten every item from Pos except ring, neck and bracers
vivid vessel
sounds like skill issue
cinder relic
I had to spend 3 bonus rolls to get the lura ring
fathom bramble
I hit ring neck bracers and belt from my first 4
cinder relic
-6
fathom bramble
now we send the next 8 on lura
cinder relic
8?
vagrant saddle
lura the raid or lura the dungeon?
vivid vessel
7 for next week
fathom bramble
6?
cinder relic
Boss only has 3 items
fathom bramble
idk how many items she has
vivid vessel
3
cinder relic
Haste helmet, mastery double socket neck, very rare ring
vivid vessel
im getting head first coin
ring second
and im getting trinket from belo first coin
its all written
blizzard loves me
random stirrup
I was going to apply a curse to your loot but I know it wont work
you are truly blessed
vivid vessel
i mean
you legit cannot anymore
bro
i have
vault + reclear + coin
to get belo trinket
impossible i dont get it
vagrant saddle
zac got streamer client its too late for curses