like actually
#outlaw
long bramble
pure pewter
give me talent string
long bramble
give me talent string
@vivid vessel
pure pewter
good point
last sierra
my guy got cooked
river wing
talent string is secret i cant share
broski are you a blizzard base ui addon
surreal flower
otherwise we might get nerfed again
keep it away from casual
stuck patrol
Is this real
pure pewter
this is missing stuff
stuck patrol
I'm actually going to kms I stg
vivid vessel
good point
i dont think the crit thing works
lucid sparrow
talent string is secret i cant share
pure pewter
you cant override the last thing
tough ocean
publik was that 10% sim patchwork or dslice
pure pewter
i dont think the crit thing works
this? ```
Trickster: No Scruples crit chance bonus increased to 12% (was 10%).
cinder relic
There's just no way we nerfed outlaw st by 10%
vivid vessel
this? ```
# Trickster: No Scruples crit chance bonus increased to 12% (was 10%)....
ye it doesnt move the number for me
cinder relic
That can't be right
river wing
There's just no way we nerfed outlaw st by 10%
we? who's we?
lucid sparrow
yes guy
outer meteor
surely not!
river wing
I ain't done nothin'
lucid sparrow
infact
stuck patrol
Yeah I'm kms
lucid sparrow
they can do better
vivid vessel
lucid sparrow
if you keep talking about it
vivid vessel
i mean then you can just play fatebound if this sim is real
CQQAphyM11FofNMFa1K3vFEDUCgx2MYmZmZmtZmZMzMzsBmZbaZw2MAAAAAALLzMzwMzMzYmZ2GAAAAGDYwsNLmZmRzMbMLssNtwGDwMzMzMYA @pure pewter this is trickster i thought you already had a profile tho
or well this is m+ talents i guess
pure pewter
ye it doesnt move the number for me
does it actually work
vivid vessel
CQQAphyM11FofNMFa1K3vFEDUCgx2MYmZmZmtZmZmZmxsBmZbaZw2MAAAAAAbbzMzwMzMzYmZ2GAAAAGDYwsNLmZmRzMbMLssNtwGDwMzMzMYA this is st
vivid vessel
does it actually work
i mean number didnt move for that one
fair sparrow
There's just no way we nerfed outlaw st by 10%
lapis meadow
117k to 115k in fatebound for me
last sierra
publics right there
daring yoke
Why outlaw is a next season spec 😭
torn lichen
There's just no way we nerfed outlaw st by 10%
jovial dome
where are the numbers people at
They're working
warm pelican
tough ocean
They're working
ik they are, it was sarcasm
wintry solar
Is Imp BTE working as intended in pve?
gaunt phoenix
no scruples? of course it does
tropic zephyr
called it
river wing
ah well, time to go to sleep, see ya in 6 to 8
torn lichen
Outlaw got its one week of fun this expansion. See ya in 13.x
cinder relic
no scruples? of course it does
No scruples? I barely know her
lucid sparrow
play fatebound and get buffed psychologically by 10%, offset the nerfs !
deft mason
fatebound was a mistake since day 1
teal lava
i came to ask for help with my booty dps and i see this lol i am screwed
jovial dome
Booty about to get Bootier
daring yoke
Guys i dont think i have the mental toughness to play this spec anymore. But its the only class i play 😭
pure pewter
yeah it works
vestal grail
hero talents was a mistake since day 1 XD
tough ridge
surreal flower
340 pulls as outlaw boss better die this week
tough ocean
hey at least you guys are getting to play rogue on lura
pure pewter
@vivid vessel works for me
surreal flower
tough ocean
im going to DK prison
timid wadi
fuck... i might actually leave my house now...
pure pewter
old bronze
Guys i dont think i have the mental toughness to play this spec anymore. But its...
after this nerf your first time playing a 220 ilevel char will do more damage than outlaw bro just send it
tough ocean
bro i feel like my fresh 90 warr is gonna do more dam than my almost fully mythic geared rogue
pure pewter
That can't be right
you wanna check my work https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/pull/11429
pure pewter
its that change locally + overrides
tough ocean
how much damage are we losing
thats what were yapping about, tryna figure it out
vivid vessel
<:salute:1171571200527437996>
tho your numbers are biggers than mine tho so idk, like the 2 sims you sent, being 10% appart, when i sim the overrides its only a 5% nerf
there is no way that crit thing not stacking is worth another 5%
wintry solar
how much damage are we losing
Fr, I can't gauge exactly how mad I'm suppose to be with all this chit chat
gaunt phoenix
you wanna check my work <https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/pull/11429>
This is causing the fazed damage taken debuff to not stack
I doubt they disable that
frail veldt
unless on accident haha
cinder relic
you wanna check my work <https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/pull/11429>
I'm busy at a birthday dinner rn 
fossil lintel
yeah line 2497
cinder relic
Solo should be able to assist
vivid vessel
ah ye thats why your number is way bigger, only the crit thing shouldnt stack
fossil lintel
probably need to remain stack_value_direct
gaunt phoenix
Fazed increases damage taken by 8%. secondary effects are bonus crit damage and damage reduction.
frail veldt
Trickster: Additional stacks of Fazed granted by Cloud Cover no longer increase the magnitude of secondary effects, such as the damage reduction from the Smoke talent.
pure pewter
oh yeah thats an oopsie
atomic bolt
it was a good 3.5 days lads
atomic bolt
had a blast
frail veldt
yeah "secondary"
vivid vessel
so like a 7% nerf or so
smoky lotus
Hey they forgot to nerf blade flurry with the aura buff they gave us
vivid vessel
why did we even bother simming all of that
i was exactly right
on my first number
that was rng
im so good at wow
long bramble
bro lets do some fb propaganda come on
topaz stream
are we happy or sad with may 5th changes?
pure pewter
sims are fake news
frail veldt
are we happy or sad with may 5th changes?
more like 'how sad are we'
vivid vessel
are we happy or sad with may 5th changes?
your number goes down by about 6/7%
frail veldt
and damage taken goes back up 🙂
hollow bloom
dont trust the clankers, just stack haste 
tough ocean
i assume the 7% is single target right
granite quarry
your number goes down by about 6/7%
i see what u did there
frail veldt
i assume the 7% is single target right
aoe is prob more
cuz the fazed nerf is big there
tulip jewel
not too bad, arms will only out damage on overalls by about ~90k instead
lone crow
So still trickster over fatebound?
keen belfry
yo zac
covert harness
no cap tho
Fr fr
keen belfry
can we play fatebound now
vivid vessel
So still trickster over fatebound?
maybe not
maybe yes
i think trickster might be ahead by like 1 %
fathom bramble
I mean 6-7% nerf for trickster 5% buff for fatebound
plush grove
wait for the guy to give the final blessing
vivid vessel
i need what publik coded to be online to actually know
fossil lintel
1% is not enough to make me play trickster over fatebound 😂
gaunt phoenix
just chill out with numbers
fathom bramble
and they probably accidentally double buff coins again just because of how the spec aura is built
bold patio
i think trickster might be ahead by like 1 %
if so fate is back bois
fathom bramble
so we will see
lapis meadow
outlaw is slightly above mid for 1 week "MUST ADDRESS OUTLIER"
fossil lintel
look on the bright side
vivid vessel
and they probably accidentally double buff coins again just because of how the s...
holy i forgot about taht one
guys ok look
fossil lintel
they didn't do aura nerf 5% damage
vivid vessel
last time we got a 4% aura buff
fossil lintel
so we may be able to go fatebound
fossil lintel
worse case is they just aura nerf and we get stuck on trickster with less damage
tulip jewel
trickster 0.5% ahead confirmed
stuck patrol
No bc we LOSE
long tundra
wox said 20% so thats my headcanon
gusty topaz
fossil lintel
so are we closing the discord down?
lucid sparrow
holy i forgot about taht one
whats this about fb and aura buffs being bigger on that spec
stuck patrol
When is the nerf going out? Or is it live rn?
vivid vessel
whats this about fb and aura buffs being bigger on that spec
i will not coment on that
otherwise we get nerfed
again
quick oak
hotfixes coming for sure 
gaunt phoenix
@pure pewter just revert this part and it should work
pure pewter
yeah just putting it behind an option
vivid vessel
honestly if we are lucky and coins get aura buffed by too much
fb might be slightly ahead
and we are free
of the bad gameplay
fossil lintel
also you need to remember that fatebound can play crit flask without feeling like an absolute pile or garbage
drifting burrow
ok ok
dull ginkgo
@gaunt phoenix please help us, 🐐
drifting burrow
prayge
gilded condor
fb might be slightly ahead
we pray 
teal lava
of the bad gameplay
i am new here is fb more fun to play
vivid vessel
i am new here is fb more fun to play
it fixes the spec ye
granite quarry
i am new here is fb more fun to play
yes
vivid vessel
you dont have to do the thing where you build at 5 cp perma
gilded condor
depends who you ask but IMO yes
dull ginkgo
@gaunt phoenix the Man we need
gaunt phoenix
ping me again
vivid vessel
@gaunt phoenix
lone crow
@gaunt phoenix
dull ginkgo
@gaunt phoenix please don’t band me
tough ocean
zac boutta get banned
fossil lintel
@gaunt phoenix our hero
last sierra
@gaunt phoenix
empty basalt
@gaunt phoenix
crystal granite
@gaunt phoenix help
tulip jewel
@gaunt phoenix
thorny zinc
dull ginkgo
@gaunt phoenix HELP US
thick coyote
@gaunt phoenix oops
vagrant kettle
SOLO
keen belfry
of the bad gameplay
i enjoyed fatebound quite a bit
slim hare
vivid vessel
elder sonnet
@gaunt phoenix PLS
dull ginkgo
@gaunt phoenix PLEASE HELP USSS AYMEN
blissful gate
fossil lintel
outlaw discord is going to be closed down, not because of the nerf, but because we pinged solo too much
keen belfry
i pray we can end up on fatebound
dusk dirge
haughty wigeon
I love
surreal flower
you guys remember when solo left the channel??
glass mortar
@vivid vessel
haughty wigeon
Love it
fossil lintel
also was warrior just straight up buffed in all scenarios?
vivid vessel
is going on with the game
what
hasty fable
goddamn I just switched to Aug from my beta+ years of outlaw (fartcloud was the final straw) and now they backtracking on the farts
glass mortar
im getting the RtB bug like 3-4 times a boss pull rn
slim hare
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1493009002479751168/im...
yeah its that time again
haughty wigeon
I love it when fucking the spec is gated around bad design
torn lichen
Be nice to solo
glass mortar
in raid
gilded condor
https://tenor.com/view/castorice-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-rice-fried-rice-gif-15126117275146411567
haughty wigeon
Like prep
gilded condor
let em cooook
vivid vessel
im getting the RtB bug like 3-4 times a boss pull rn
ye bro dw about it
glass mortar
never seen it this much
vivid vessel
its normal
glass mortar
its crazy
vivid vessel
its blizzard ui
haughty wigeon
But hey fatebound does big damage
lyric sun
My fault guys. I went to Blizz hq today and asked for an outlaw buff and a dev team jacket..
fathom whale
Our buffs/nerfs anything ? We still trickster?
lyric sun
haughty wigeon
And fate bound being dogshit
granite quarry
yo wheres the rogue dev that used to bless us, has he been sacked for trying to be too helpful?
tough ocean
damn you got there fast
winter skiff
speaking of prep why is it even a botton, why not just give AR, KS, etc. 2 charges.
tough ocean
you live like half an hour away?
slim hare
im getting the RtB bug like 3-4 times a boss pull rn
thats me in every raid as outlaw rn
winter skiff
did they just bring it back for nostalgia reasons?
haughty wigeon
yo wheres the rogue dev that used to bless us, has he been sacked for trying to ...
Blizzard destroyed him
fresh acorn
I'm busy at a birthday dinner rn <a:glorpCake:1295685786372407356>
happy birthday
glass mortar
i had a single KiRd jackpot
lyric sun
old gull
hollow temple
@vivid vessel I am big sad now
glass mortar
then popped back up at 6s
tulip jewel
speaking of prep why is it even a botton, why not just give AR, KS, etc. 2 charg...
it’ll get pruned next pruning dw
glass mortar
?????????????????????
haughty wigeon
Oh shit happy birthday guy
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> I am big sad now
lyric sun
They nerfed us after I asked for a buff. Also asked them to stop making purple raids and dungeons. He said one more expansion of purple…
daring yoke
Are we back to this 😭
hollow temple
<:CAUGHT:1250659892465762345>
They shadow realmed us in pvp all because of this stupid cloud shit
gilded condor
Bliz hates us 🙁
tender wedge
devs saw the OUTLAW! meme and thought it was a memo from the CEO
tough trellis
anybody have any preliminary thoughts on the changes
vivid vessel
They shadow realmed us in pvp all because of this stupid cloud shit
we also dont like the cloud
no one likes the cloud
winter skiff
but the cloud was thematic
old gull
hasty fable
fartcloud is the worst
vivid vessel
i had to reduce my particle density settings from high to low cause of cloud
now i cant see frontals in academy
wtf !
copper radish
Get a new gpu?
thorny zinc
if I die in the cloud it was meant to be just like old ks
vivid vessel
Get a new gpu?
what 
no i just mean you have to put it to low to see mechanics
under the cloud
omegalul
wicked kestrel
That is fuckin wild. LMAO
pure pewter
@gaunt phoenix https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/pull/11429
gilded condor
yeah the cloud is thicker than the smoke cloud and a YN show 
covert harness
If fatebound is better im happy, felt much better to play then trickster
Law will never be meta anyways might as well enjoy it
pure pewter
should be safe to merge, default is left at 1
fallow rover
elder sonnet
lowkey was starting to like killing spree, gave me a second to scratch my nose or grab a drink
empty basalt
if you forget that ks is a button its not bad
pure pewter
time for a beer, lmk if i can help with anything else
sullen nimbus
@vivid vessel I told you last week they’d nerf this and you called me a braindead monkey
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> I told you last week they’d nerf this and you called me a ...
no way i did that
granite quarry
lmfao
vivid vessel
i would never call someone that doesnt deserve it a braindead monkey
empty basalt
evil tom
keen belfry
publikw as there for mewhen i was a noob shadowpriest now hes here for me as outlaw rogue
teal lava
ok now that it has calmed down a bit can someone help me understand why me dps so garbo in keys
teal lava
!log
vivid vessel
red grove
So this is like a 5-6% nerf overall?
vivid vessel
6/7%
fair sparrow
6/7%
red grove
Fuck
timid wadi
6/7%
blissful gate
is it really a nerf if we can play fb again
harsh forge
we’re technically 6/7% net buff from .5
dreamy halo
vivid vessel
is it really a nerf if we can play fb again
i dont think you can
red grove
I just got to 3500 to D:
pure pewter
They could always change their minds!
vivid vessel
trickster should still be about 1 to 2% ahead in st
harsh forge
give fate bound permanent tricks
vivid vessel
and a bit more in aoe
blissful gate
well at least assass and law share stats xD
empty basalt
seems like its still trickster over fb from perc
vivid vessel
cant believe we get nerfed when the spec could be buffed again by 5 % and still not be brought in keys
river wing
This is legit the worst outcome
vivid vessel
old bronze
really if you think about it this nerf is a $15/month buff for outlaw players, they should be happy blizz is giving them such a huge buff
blissful gate
yellow invis at all times bug
harsh ocean
Time to learn assa
timid wadi
@vivid vessel 10% and no inv LUL
river wing
Nerfed but still trickster
keen belfry
dont u dare tell me that trickster is now barely but enough ahead of fatebound
u cant say this
im wiating for solo
hazy siren
They could always change their minds!
Not when it comes to outlaw, spec popularity is way too low to make enough noise
wintry solar
I'm taking the L and playing FB if it's that close
worldly zephyr
You see the PvP changes lol? Even more nerfs
next shuttle
Since cloud cover was nerfed how valuable is prep now>
stuck mountain
the 5% aura buff doesnt negate this?
wintry solar
Nope
pure pewter
Not when it comes to outlaw, spec popularity is way too low to make enough noise
Just be popular bro
fossil lintel
Since cloud cover was nerfed how valuable is prep now>
we play prep as fatebound still
shadow trellis
No way we caught a nerf man xD
ancient pollen
No way we caught a nerf man xD
wintry solar
It's not unlike blizz to nerf a bad spec though so I'm not totally shocked
fossil lintel
Just be popular bro
hard when you keep getting nerfed when you're not even ahead
lapis meadow
trickster should still be about 1 to 2% ahead in st
but 10% behind in gameplay flow
lapis meadow
building at 5 feels so fuckin bad
vivid vessel
the thing is trickster also has the perma tricks thing
which is kinda an insane dps gain
lol
lapis meadow
that shit is useful ngl
lime socket
yoooo small buff today
gaunt phoenix
@vivid vessel this is what i got
fathom bramble
yoooo small buff today
guess again
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> this is what i got
ye i have the same numbers rougjly
gilded condor
the thing is trickster also has the perma tricks thing
I swear I still get smacked by mobs if I shot them sometimes with perma tricks.
vivid vessel
well less cause i dont have the crit thing on my end
but yes
i thoguht the crit thing would be slightly more tho
wintry solar
I swear I still get smacked by mobs if I shot them sometimes with perma tricks.
Gotta build threat homie
vivid vessel
from the sims publik sent
pure pewter
crit thing was like another 2-3%?
vivid vessel
but i guess its like 1% or so
fossil lintel
so trickster is about 2.6% ahead still
pure pewter
i thought
stuck mountain
<@352916297262301194> this is what i got
this is with the 5% aura buff take into account?
gaunt phoenix
Yes
vivid vessel
then i dont have the same numbers but it might just be my profile idk
I simmed my char cause
warm fractal
last sierra
<@352916297262301194> this is what i got
777 nerf goes hard for the gambling spec
gray rapids
I just dont understand why they nerf when there Are so many other op specs
wintry solar
pure pewter
honestly ill take the blame here guys, i just crafted a sword
stuck mountain
what really bothers me is how biased towards ranged this game has become
gaunt phoenix
@pure pewter is there a cleaner way to not repeat this lol
profileset."apply tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.191056.base_value=64
profileset."apply tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.1294586.base_value=64
profileset."apply tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.1135886.base_value=6000
profileset."apply tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.1313710.base_value=6000
profileset."apply tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.1136236.base_value=6000
profileset."apply tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.1313616.base_value=1
profileset."apply tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.1135822.base_value=12
profileset."apply tuning"+=trickster_cloud_cover_secondary=0
profileset."no scruples after tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.179720.base_value=64
profileset."no scruples after tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.191056.base_value=64
profileset."no scruples after tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.1294586.base_value=64
profileset."no scruples after tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.1135886.base_value=6000
profileset."no scruples after tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.1313710.base_value=6000
profileset."no scruples after tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.1136236.base_value=6000
profileset."no scruples after tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.1313616.base_value=1
profileset."no scruples after tuning"+=override.spell_data=effect.1135822.base_value=12
profileset."no scruples after tuning"+=hero_talents=cloud_cover:0/no_scruples:1
profileset."no scruples after tuning"+=trickster_cloud_cover_secondary=0
profileset."fatebound"+=override.spell_data=effect.179720.base_value=64
profileset."fatebound"+=override.spell_data=effect.191056.base_value=64
profileset."fatebound"+=override.spell_data=effect.1294586.base_value=64
profileset."fatebound"+=override.spell_data=effect.1135886.base_value=6000
profileset."fatebound"+=override.spell_data=effect.1313710.base_value=6000
profileset."fatebound"+=override.spell_data=effect.1136236.base_value=6000
profileset."fatebound"+=override.spell_data=effect.1313616.base_value=1
profileset."fatebound"+=override.spell_data=effect.1135822.base_value=12
profileset."fatebound"+=talents=CQQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgx2MYmZmZmtZmZmZMmNGmZbaZw2MAAAAAgZbbmZGmZmZGzMzyAAAAwAYgNYGjGzGgtJswAgZmBG
profileset."fatebound"+=trickster_cloud_cover_secondary=0```yet mage is hardly getting touched
fossil lintel
goddamn publik
vivid vessel
look i have a new hat and shit
gilded condor
I just dont understand why they nerf when there Are so many other op specs
my tinfoil hat theory is bliz doesn't ever want outlaw to be as good as it was in BFA
stuck mountain
warlocks hardly getting touched
pure pewter
oh jesus
vivid vessel
<@165904439947952128> is there a cleaner way to not repeat this lol
```profilese...
ye dont apply it to fatebound kekw
fossil lintel
you're here playing outlaw, that's probably why there's no mention of psychic link
stuck mountain
blizz doesnt want rogues good because tehy regret stealth
pure pewter
<@165904439947952128> is there a cleaner way to not repeat this lol
```profilese...
also you might need override.player
can you just use copy actors?
copy="after","before"
# All damage increased by 5%. Does not affect PvP combat.
override.player.spell_data=effect.179720.base_value=64
override.player.spell_data=effect.191056.base_value=64
# Trickster: Cloud Cover primary and secondary duration reduced to 6 seconds (was 10 seconds).
override.player.spell_data=effect.1135886.base_value=6000
override.player.spell_data=effect.1313710.base_value=6000
override.player.spell_data=effect.1136236.base_value=6000
override.player.spell_data=spell.441587.duration=6000
# Trickster: Cloud Cover now causes Fazed to stack 1 additional time (was 2).
override.player.spell_data=effect.1313616.base_value=1
# Trickster: No Scruples crit chance bonus increased to 12% (was 10%).
override.player.spell_data=effect.1135822.base_value=12
# Trickster: Additional stacks of Fazed granted by Cloud Cover no longer increase the magnitude of secondary effects, such as the damage reduction from the Smoke talent.
trickster_cloud_cover_secondary=0
override.spell_data doesnt work with copy, but maybe player does
pure pewter
yeah you have to player scope it
gaunt phoenix
i didnt know of .player at all until a bit ago
last sierra
player fixes that yea
light ingot
soo how much did we get nerfed like %3-4 or more?
vivid vessel
yeah you have to player scope it
ok thats kinda goated
i have always had to do profileset for these things
which is very annoying
pure pewter
yeah thats gross dot com
vivid vessel
@gaunt phoenix send me your string when you redid everything
i know you are gonna do it so i wont bother doing it
this is how you work efficiently btw guys
take notes
fossil lintel
so to work efficiently we need to ping solo, got it
vivid vessel
yuh
pure pewter
do you guys want me to merge that pr so you can test in raidbots
or does solo have perms? idk
hollow portal
where I was happy
vivid vessel
shouldnt you just have it on ptr=1 tho
pure pewter
uh
vivid vessel
instead of the variable thingy
pure pewter
well i could if you wanted to but
gaunt phoenix
its fine
pure pewter
does ptr data match live data?
gaunt phoenix
usually
pure pewter
idk for us its usually missing hotfixes and shit
vivid vessel
i mena its whatever
vivid vessel
ye you are maybe right
last time we didnt have the aura in it
idk if it has been added now
pure pewter
vivid vessel
im used to doing these things on ptr it felt cleaner but
you are prolly right
ptr is sometimes cooked
wintry solar
There are Russians on ptr and they were mean to me one time in BFA :(
coarse kraken
Wait... we are getting nerfed? Why??
wintry solar
Because blizz doesn't know how to tune
sonic flint
Yall literally got a PRIEST carrying out the burial rites of the spec with the sims lmao
fossil lintel
Wait... we are getting nerfed? Why??
people were playing outlaw, can't have that
gaunt phoenix
@vivid vessel ```copy="apply tuning"
override.player.spell_data=effect.179720.base_value=64
override.player.spell_data=effect.191056.base_value=64
override.player.spell_data=effect.1294586.base_value=64
override.player.spell_data=effect.1135886.base_value=6000
override.player.spell_data=effect.1313710.base_value=6000
override.player.spell_data=effect.1136236.base_value=6000
override.player.spell_data=effect.1313616.base_value=1
override.player.spell_data=effect.1135822.base_value=12
trickster_cloud_cover_secondary=0
copy="no scruples after tuning"
talents=CQQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgx2MYmZmZmtZmZmZMmNeAmZbaZw2MAAAAAgZbbmZGmZmZGzMzyAAAAwYAwY2MMkBmFWoF2YAmZwAD
copy="fatebound"
talents=CQQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgx2MYmZmZmtZmZmZMmNGmZbaZw2MAAAAAgZbbmZGmZmZGzMzyAAAAwAYgNYGjGzGgtJswAgZmBG```
wintry solar
Not even in a doomer way but they repeatedly show they don't know how
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> ```copy="apply tuning"
override.player.spell_data=effect.1...
you are so cute when you do that
drifting burrow
xD
craggy barn
merged my own PR 👍
wtf thats illegal
pure pewter
should work in raidbots in a few minutes
gaunt phoenix
you are so cute when you do that
pure pewter
okay @vivid vessel @gaunt phoenix latest on raidbots should work now
with the option
glass mortar
you are so cute when you do that
pure pewter
if koji is busy can ping me next week to remove it
vivid vessel
okay <@352916297262301194> <@921608341048930304> `latest` on raidbots should wor...
thanks cuh
keen belfry
Not even in a doomer way but they repeatedly show they don't know how
Putting trickster barely ahead would be criminal
coarse kraken
Was there like some scenario that we were overperforming in? Or just changing things that no one asked for and weren't needed?
vivid vessel
Putting trickster barely ahead would be criminal
i have bad news for you
tepid galleon
So we going back to sub now?
pure pewter
if you dont play what the sims say are you even playing the game
keen belfry
if you dont play what the sims say are you even playing the game
Robot shows some power ya know
drifting burrow
all good guys next 12-5-2026 again tuning we get aura buff again for the 5th time
pure pewter
(imo you should publish as much data on the changes as possible so blizzard maybe adjusts it before tuesday)
#cope
drifting burrow
cope
timid wadi
bob needs to get off the pickleball court and revert this shit
vivid vessel
(imo you should publish as much data on the changes as possible so blizzard mayb...
ye imma forward it to my blizzard guy chat dont worry
timid wadi
wheres the classic my dad works for blizzard dude?
eternal socket
my dad works for blizzard and he is mad at me for forgetting to take the chicken out of the freezer
this is my fault guys
vivid vessel
@gaunt phoenix does it work for you
the override player spell data
doesnt for me
or idk
numbers too low
gaunt phoenix
seems fine to me
opal gazelle
Is the cloud cover bug fixed where the buff refreshes even when we aren’t in it
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> ```copy="apply tuning"
override.player.spell_data=effect.1...
you forgot one override in this btw
sage bronze
wait is it a buff or nerf
vivid vessel
massive skill issue imo
gaunt phoenix
I know
iron trout
wait that was a bug ? O.o
vivid vessel
no thats not what i mean
override.player.spell_data=spell.441587.duration=6000
this one
gaunt phoenix
oh, i copied it from publik
pure pewter
something something math
gaunt phoenix
not my fault !
vivid vessel
something something math
i wish
pure pewter
yeah my first one was broken because cloud cover has 4 entries in spelldata for teh duration
for some reason
iron trout
wake up
cloud gone
no
torn lichen
tepid galleon
Where is the sim monkey when you need them am I brainlessly respeccing assa now or is the whole rogue class cooked
gaunt phoenix
the monkeys are monkeying...
tepid galleon
Someone react to this if you agree we need someone to tell us what to play
burnt sierra
Time to pull a paladin and shut down the discord.
frail veldt
does anyone have a working stealth buff tracker
the default cdm one has been bugged all xpac for me
strange hill
Where is the sim monkey when you need them am I brainlessly respeccing assa now ...
Well Assn was neither buffed nor nerfed so according to some other people that means assn is the best.
wooden pilot
Where is the sim monkey when you need them am I brainlessly respeccing assa now ...
there are multiple monkeys looking at it rn come back later
tepid galleon
Ok bc I need to know what to spend my bonus rolls on
fossil lintel
oof from 60% uptime to 38
tepid galleon
Monkeys pls monkey faster ty
long bramble
Where is the sim monkey when you need them am I brainlessly respeccing assa now ...
Reroll aug
tepid galleon
I have a dev dh if all else fails
long bramble
I have a dev dh if all else fails
I have a chair and a rope ready
tepid galleon
I have that too
last sierra
understandable
simple heath
I have a dev dh if all else fails
i have a fury warr KEKW
long bramble
i have a fury warr KEKW
Ngl seems insane tho
lucid sparrow
u will get a compensation nerf next week relax
keen belfry
simple heath
we’ll see 5% added to a pile of shit aint crazy
vivid vessel
he doesnt deserve to get unbanned
teal lava
i wanna be this cool one day lol
long bramble
i wanna be this cool one day lol
Like braycloak?
gaunt phoenix
its not supposed to be 9%
his 9% result is removing cloud cover entirely
frail veldt
stay banned nooba
lucid sparrow
btw did uhdk get turbo nerfed
gaunt phoenix
we are so bad at copy pasting ..
fathom bramble
less turbo nerfed than us
keen belfry
i wanna be this cool one day lol
how can u
long bramble
we are so bad at copy pasting ..
We need some cope pasting ngl
pure pewter
his 9% result is removing cloud cover entirely
oh fuck
vivid vessel
his 9% result is removing cloud cover entirely
ye i knew he was getting skill issued
hazy siren
we are so bad at copy pasting ..
Dont copy the name when you copy the pasta
teal lava
Like braycloak?
not the big dps guy
gaunt phoenix
harsh forge
dev 3#
dull ginkgo
1 target <https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pyj6pgipn6D9jN6ASCAQYq>
8 targe...
NOOO
harsh forge
outlay
long bramble
1 target <https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pyj6pgipn6D9jN6ASCAQYq>
8 targe...
Bro we are so back
harsh forge
100# nerf
tepid galleon
Shut the fuck up @pure pewter
long bramble
Fb is the way
buoyant stratus
Tuff
gaunt phoenix
Shut the fuck up <@165904439947952128>
Wtf
dull ginkgo
1 target <https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pyj6pgipn6D9jN6ASCAQYq>
8 targe...
NOOOO
tepid galleon
This is cap af
cedar latch
Demo Lock/Devdh player, shall I add Outlaw to my collection?
hazy siren
Hey folks this is rryker
carmine pine
I AM SO FUCKING PISSED ABOUT THE NERFS. Seriously..
vivid vessel
1 target <https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pyj6pgipn6D9jN6ASCAQYq>
8 targe...
ye seeing the same
anyway !
carmine pine
wintry solar
Can't we all just love one another and get along?
pure pewter
1st try we got it for sure trust
vivid vessel
we need to figure out something
long bramble
Can I say that it s Zac fault? He legit said 2 days ago that he would take a nerf to go back to fb
vivid vessel
like
hazy siren
WAIT WHAT
vivid vessel
Can I say that it s Zac fault? He legit said 2 days ago that he would take a ner...
ok but trickster is still above tho
surely trickster oversim
must find something
buoyant stratus
So what 6% nerf thn
iron trout
just made the switch to outlaw. why is fatebound prefered over trickster ?
tepid galleon
So a 9% nerf
long bramble
ok but trickster is still above tho
1%? With trickster oversim it’s like 2% behind
The only argument viable by my clueless pov is the perma trick
teal lava
just made the switch to outlaw. why is fatebound prefered over trickster ?
i just swaped 2 maybe 3 days ago and i am kinda lost here also lol
vivid vessel
1%? With trickster oversim it’s like 2% behind
its like 3 % ahead in aoe tho
trickster
tepid galleon
Brooo chat we are cooked
keen belfry
i just swaped 2 maybe 3 days ago and i am kinda lost here also lol
it has better energy, combo point gen, qol play, fun rules
vivid vessel
kinda weirdge if you are playing fb no
orchid oracle
Hey folks this is rryker
Wrong one but i read that in his voice
hazy siren
Wrong one but i read that in his voice
Yeah thats the point
iron trout
it has better energy, combo point gen, qol play, fun rules
thx
tepid galleon
Why is blizz nerfing a class with the most loyal fanbase
teal lava
it has better energy, combo point gen, qol play, fun rules
oh ok
long bramble
kinda weirdge if you are playing fb no
I mean I ll just do whatever you do ngl try both for us and let us know daddy
marsh raft
is there any way to put thing in cooldown manager so I can see when it's up again easily?
outer meteor
thats gotta be racially motivated
long bramble
I don t trust trickster sims cuz I didn’t get 15% on my details this week ngl
keen belfry
no way ur inviting him to ur keys
he invited me
pure pewter
is there any way to put thing in cooldown manager so I can see when it's up agai...
need an addon like cooldown manager centered or others to do this
outer meteor
gg
pure pewter
base ui cant track trinkets
tepid galleon
Finna crash out lowkey
vivid vessel
anyway
outer meteor
maybe u highrolled like crazy
marsh raft
need an addon like cooldown manager centered or others to do this
cooldown manager centered is the name?
hazy siren
So what you are saying is base ui is dogshit
keen belfry
maybe u highrolled like crazy
i sat on kir for so long that whole key
pure pewter
cooldown manager centered is the name?
yeah thats what i use
long bramble
just tell your friends outlaw got nerfed by more than dh and dk
Just did
marsh raft
tyvm
pure pewter
gives you this
cedar latch
hol up so did this spec get nerfed or buffed
tepid galleon
So what’s this telling us is we play assa?
vivid vessel
its true btw
carmine pine
Love that all these outlaw rogues got to time +20s and when I get their i wil lbe nerfed
midnight granite
nerf doesn't stop you from timing 20's lol
cedar latch
vivid vessel
Love that all these outlaw rogues got to time +20s and when I get their i wil lb...
all these outlaw rogues
timid wadi
got to get invited 1st LUL
craggy barn
yea
long bramble
I m gonna play preservation evoker guys or windwalker monk
craggy barn
them fotm outlaws
gusty topaz
Thats insane what a bunch of meta slaves
pure pewter
if your goal is to get buffed into making it easy to be invited to keys i have bad news for you
tepid galleon
It’s giving bleach cocktail angle
iron trout
cant believe this army of outlaw rogue fotm reroller
you made the spec look fun onstream
long bramble
Maybe I have to go back to my roots and play shadow priest
cedar latch
I m gonna play preservation evoker guys or windwalker monk
windwalker got axed for no reason tho
pure pewter
shadow is fun
pure pewter
not even close
burnt sable
I just wanna know what they're thinking with all of this tuning man half of it is just like ???? To me but maybe I'm stupid
teal lava
you made the spec look fun onstream
thats why i swapped
pure pewter
legion shadow priest m+ was the most abominable shit on the planet
gusty topaz
mfers robbed us of our smoke bomb warlocks of their meta and legion spriest voidform
cedar latch
I'm just glad they let off the nerf pedal on my demo lock
timid wadi
ill play SP if they go back to emerald dream stm hahah
wintry solar
mfers robbed us of our smoke bomb warlocks of their meta and legion spriest void...
Spriest lost VF?
shadow trellis
I don t trust trickster sims cuz I didn’t get 15% on my details this week ngl
I did 
long bramble
shadow is fun
I love shadow priest in raid I can’t play caster in m+ i m too greedy
pure pewter
ill play SP if they go back to emerald dream stm hahah
you mean the thing that couldnt do m+
long bramble
I did <:antennaglorp:1410496077362364549>
Sorry to breath your air bro
nova sinew
good guy blizzard helping me fix my lura parse with these nerfs
vivid vessel
how did dk get nerfed by the same amount as outlaw
nova sinew
<@588903099867856907> stop
this fella is an antagonist or what
gusty topaz
yeah and like 3 people play it optimally lol
vivid vessel
and aug got nerfed by half what outlaw got nerfed by
buoyant stratus
and aug got nerfed by half what outlaw got nerfed by
Slayer arms tho 8)
long bramble
It s the real question
keen belfry
this fella is an antagonist or what
antagoonerist
gusty topaz
Why did outlaw got touched
ptsd bfa sins they hate yellow pee color
long bramble
Like just aura nerf in PvP and leave me alone in PvE
gusty topaz
buoyant stratus
They nerfed outlaw to keep phys comp farover in check
keen belfry
and ur doing it as assa
buoyant stratus
Blizzard broke his foot too
Ye i was just bored
Messin around
Ds assa btw
XD
keen belfry
dee snuts
ashen void
5 jacks back to back
buoyant stratus
Jackpot 9x ace
gaunt phoenix
@vivid vessel thoughts on this droute lol https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9Q1kA15ECvrywZ6rbx3d36
buoyant stratus
Top dps first pull algethar over ret pal
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> thoughts on this droute lol <https://www.raidbots.com/simb...
ye i mean i got the same
buoyant stratus
XDDDD
vivid vessel
i cant figure it out
sage bronze
I need a pin to go up with %'s before homer go something something
vivid vessel
why the result is so different in droute
so i gave up
im honestly completly clueless
long bramble
<@352916297262301194> thoughts on this droute lol <https://www.raidbots.com/simb...
Based
vivid vessel
it doesnt make one single sense to me
pure pewter
<@352916297262301194> thoughts on this droute lol <https://www.raidbots.com/simb...
where bloodlust
gaunt phoenix
i dont think lust will influence outlaw results much
long bramble
it doesnt make one single sense to me
I resolved the matrix
Fb 2% behind on sim BUT
I can flask crit on fb
dull ginkgo
@gaunt phoenix pin msg inc?
vivid vessel
i dont think lust will influence outlaw results much
i dont get it also cause fb doesnt win any target count for me
gaunt phoenix
ye i know
vivid vessel
maybe fb was always kinda "ahead"
in longer sims
cause of the whole energy thing
idk
you get me
vivid vessel
i hate this tea bullshit man
long bramble
maybe fb was always kinda "ahead"
In our hearts
fathom bramble
FB is actually far ahead
vivid vessel
i think imma just play fatebound in keys idk
fathom bramble
you just quad grapple and you are like 80 yards ahead
vivid vessel
truth
buoyant stratus
Truth
vivid vessel
truth nuke even
long bramble
i think imma just play fatebound in keys idk
YESSS
vivid vessel
YESSS
i mena look
ks always had this thing also
tirkcster
where ks is a spell
and the spell does rng targeting
green star
5% dmg buff and tricksters dead confirmed via #1 outlaw rogue
vivid vessel
so in a way you lose like 2/3% st
long bramble
Bro I wanna kms while I m ksing on my screen
vivid vessel
in a lot of scenarios
so like
its fake
so then idk
at this point maybe its just a fatebound angle
long bramble
I m gonna play fb tomorrow
lucid sparrow
compensation nerf gna be 5% buff to killing spree
timid wadi
trueee
vivid vessel
but i hate that we have this huge diff bwetten dungeonslice and dungeon route this season
cause of tea
tea is fucking everything up
what a shit talent
has there ever been something like that
that cant even be simmed
in a 5min sim
ornate kernel
So we are back to fatebound? how much % is the nerf?
long bramble
I honestly liked tea when I could use it by myself without anybody forcing it to me like a fucking child
vivid vessel
but fatebound doesnt have perma tricks tho is the thing
and perma tricks is so op bro idk
it sucks doing keys without perma tricks
pure pewter
retweet
vivid vessel
you cant ever hit mobs
long bramble
but fatebound doesnt have perma tricks tho is the thing
BRO WE FLASK CRIT I SWEAR
dire rampart
yeaperma tricks is giga
green star
I dont want to go back to tricksing every pull 
vivid vessel
like i actually have to be a normal person on fatebound
i cant just insta attack mobs
feels bad
i feel like a fury warrior
standing afk next to mobs
this aint outlaw cuh
long barn
Just tricks and pistol shot from distance lolll
pure pewter
it also helps the tank in general s oranged dont pull threat and move mobs away
timid wadi
a naked fury warrior that gets 1 shot by anything
vivid vessel
it also helps the tank in general s oranged dont pull threat and move mobs away
ye like
my warrior can dps earlioer
i can dps earlier
sage bronze
I mean im not doing 20's but swapping to the blind one off perma tricks is nice for things like first pull AA
gaunt phoenix
i need to look into fatebound. something's not quite right
long bramble
Guys listen
winter skiff
has anyone made an RIP outlaw April 21-May 2 2026 tombstone meme yet?
long bramble
I prefer waiting 2 more global
Then being a cuck 4 mins into the pull
Cause I have no energy since 2nd boss of the dungeon
vagrant kettle
i need to look into fatebound. something's not quite right
vivid vessel
when are they deleting them
pure pewter
what is it solo
asking chatgpt rq
green star
Cause I have no energy since 2nd boss of the dungeon
You dont like sitting there auto attacking for 10 seconds?
fair iron
i dont even remember what that's from, but I can hear him
timid wadi
"villain" talents
pure pewter
pure pewter
imagine if perma tricks was just a normal class talent
perma tricks instead of tea???
vivid vessel
ask claude instead i heard he was very good at simc
timid wadi
hahaha
winter skiff
I heard a rumor that blizz is gonna turn outlaw into a tank spec next expansion, that's why they nerfed trickster
long bramble
I heard a rumor that blizz is gonna turn outlaw into a tank spec next expansion,...
I m down tbh
Sign me up
vagrant kettle
outlaw augmentation
stuck totem
be careful asking claude to do something...it may delete all of wow in 9 seconds...or at least the outlaw spec.
burnt sable
I wish perma tricks was a class talent cause once you get used to it... I sometimes will forget I don't have it on my paladin...
long bramble
outlaw augmentation
Same overall anyway on details so atp
naive river
is that outlaw nerf a really big nerf looks like a big nerf
vivid vessel
I wish perma tricks was a class talent cause once you get used to it... I someti...
i still cant belive we have this thing
were we have to chose a dps talent tree
and get fucked over
on the utility part
vivid vessel
:D
blizzard when they make the same mistake over and over and over and over and over
never stops
pure pewter
ask claude instead i heard he was very good at simc
claude found bugs
vivid vessel
"dw guys we know having to chose between utility and dps feels bad"
pure pewter
!!
vivid vessel
claude found bugs
pure pewter
long bramble
"dw guys we know having to chose between utility and dps feels bad"
So they removed both choices no utility and no dps
That s SOO smart
ember rock
buffing arms and nerfing outlaw seems insane to me
green star
I mean they mainly buffed its ST tbf
vivid vessel
buffing arms and nerfing outlaw seems insane to me
no you dont get ti
arms could be doing 300k overall its not
we must ocntinue buffing it every week
till it can
eternal reef
That makes sense to me
vivid vessel
still cant believe the meta comp aint playing an arms warrior btw
ember rock
yea i mean did anyone acctually think the trickster changes made us nerf worthy
timid wadi
claude said play arms for me.. weird
vivid vessel
this spec is crazy style
cinder relic
we must ocntinue buffing it every week
Bi weekly arms buffs
Until the morale improves
cinder relic
Legit
vivid vessel
(its a nerf again)
long bramble
Wait so even with the 5% dmg buff its a nerf?
cinder relic
thoughts on 3% nerf to ddh?
Clearly deserved
random stirrup
this will bring them in line!
vivid vessel
@cinder relic btw its time for a tweet, both aug and devoureur got nerfed by less than law, and dk got nerfed for about the same as law
time to write somethign up lil gup
i will be waiting for the notification
naive river
what % neft you think it is
uncut ginkgo
I legit need a blue post from them about these shenanigans
vivid vessel
what % neft you think it is
4/5/6
ancient cobalt
vivid vessel
depending on situation
green star
They saw 1 group (Zac) doing well and had to instantly rogue
ancient cobalt
can u use this gif in the tweet
vivid vessel
more st than aoe
shadow trellis
My middle of the pack getting nerfed 
😔
ember rock
what chud at blizzard makes these decisions btw
green star
Cant have yellow on the raiderio page
ember rock
must be a casualaddict viewer
wintry solar
DK got nerfed by like 5% AoE and 1.6% ST. You saying we got hit similarly?
wintry solar
My middle of the pack getting nerfed <:Toxic:585733851591081984> 😔
Yeah they do it sometimes because lol
naive river
i dont freaken understand why mele cant have any power thiss expansion
vivid vessel
DK got nerfed by like 5% AoE and 1.6% ST. You saying we got hit similarly?
6% st and like 3% aoe
fathom bramble
nerfed by less than devourer or no ?
thorn cypress
this tuning on outlaw was a nerf or a buff?
uncut ginkgo
outside of AR windows I would suspect it would be a minor buff
ebon vale
it doesnt make one single sense to me
U promised me they wouldn’t touch outlaw😢
vivid vessel
nerfed by less than devourer or no ?
no more
we got nerfed by more than dev
or so i think
fathom bramble
👍
fathom bramble
I mean it looks like they need a nerf triple ours so
green star
Thats good, Dev was really struggling, I'm glad we were held to the same standards as it 🙂
fathom bramble
seems fine to me
timid wadi
all rogue specs even 
agile orchid
@cinder relic remember when you called me a doomer for saying they will nerf outlaw
shadow trellis
nerfed by less than devourer or no ?
vivid vessel
nvm they edited the pin
they have a pin
5%
we got nerfed by a bit less
i do say a bit less
green star
"Do not panic"
vivid vessel
because we get nerfed by more in st
green star
Jesus christ
vivid vessel
but less in aoe
so in my book we get nerfed by more than dev
which seems fair tbh !
uncut ginkgo
wouldnt we get nerfed more in ae than st?
vivid vessel
outlaw is 0.5% spec pop in keys
wintry solar
6% st and like 3% aoe
Not according to theorycrafters
vivid vessel
and everyone wants an outlaw
iron trout
so its ok to play fatebound ?
ember rock
"do not panic" as the gun is inside of our mouth
fossil lintel
which seems fair tbh !
We were clearly the outlier there
craggy barn
they nerfed outlaw because its doing better raid overall than sub and sin
and blizzard does not like that
green star
Don't panic! We we still be quite ahead of everyone becuase they all got nerfed too!!!
naive river
people hate outlaw for some reason when i talk about likeing it they are like "gross"
i miss crackshot and underhanded upper hand
shadow trellis
OUTLAW!!!!
uncut ginkgo
cause its not a lawlspec like 90% of specs
naive river
other rogue players
craggy barn
gross
vivid vessel
@wintry solar the numbers i told you
were for outlaw
you asked me if we were hit similarly
ember rock
how is sub that popular btw
vivid vessel
i gave you outlaw numbers
vivid vessel
ye so
wintry solar
I misunderstood
green star
Guess its time to break out the aff lock
vivid vessel
yes i know
green star
sike they still ass