outlaw

[green star]

Might see if its better than the plume

Damn its worse than my champ plume thats funny lol

[tender wedge]

good to know actually, lootmaster forgot to trade it to me on an alt run a few weeks back and i was worried id passed up something deccent lol

[prime bough]

Hi some questions if you get a BtE proc and blade rush comes up do you use blade rush first then consume or nah

[gaunt phoenix]

yes, you br

Or you lose cooldown reduction on it

[prime bough]

Also if blade flurry is about to run out but you’re getting procs do we not care about over capping?

Got it

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes, you have to maintain bf in aoe

[prime bough]

Okay I see

[gaunt phoenix]

regardless of cps

[prime bough]

Makes sense I feel like there’s a lot of combo points coming out but some are just wasted but it seems like it doesn’t matter

[craggy barn]

bro im resorting to outlaw in aug keys

because things still die too fast for sin

[prime bough]

I’m trying to break that mentality coming from assassination

[flat needle]

Is there an effective way to keep RtB and BF buff up besides tracking the buff in the cd manager? I mean some visual reminder or something that screams at you when the buff drops. I feel like i have a good uptime already but then there is still a pack or two in a dungeon where i send 2-3 finisher before realizing my BF has dropped.

Pre midnight we had the RTB Weakaura for this

[river zenith]

Hey guys, if my ping is 17ms, what should i set my spellqueue at?

[thin fiber]

for me, i just keep BF on cd. that's how i remind myself other than tracking

[flat needle]

Yeah maybe thats the play. I have a sound alert already when the buff drops but my brain is good in ignoring certain noises after it got used to it

[mossy herald]

Could use bars mayb

Unless you want the game to blow you out of your chair when it drops or something

[swift moon]

If BTE resets at 5CP u still BR into BTE? I guess CDR has more value than a single BTE at 1 lower CP?

[trim vigil]

I think you should BR on CD even if BTE resets at 5CP

[dusty blaze]

Just watched Wox's video. On the prekey he adds Prep and another AR. Is that legit?

[river zenith]

what is the addon that says NO SPRINT NO HOOK>?

[north sky]

is outlaw finally the meta now? Since shadowlands is it back?!

I see it's being played in keys

[strong cargo]

If you AR KS you consume 1 of the supercharged cp, so I guess he add prep AR to have 2 when the key starts

[hasty warren]

hi pirates

[jolly geyser]

[normal quail]

How much haste are you guys sitting at to make outlaw playable now in raid?

[hollow bloom]

25% is the general area you want to be in. Im pushing 32% haste now and its been playing pretty swell. But mostly about your individual vibes on it honestly.

[lilac crescent]

if im not mythic raiding, wouldn't it be better to just craft a crit-haste main weapon?

[frail veldt]

Generally no more than 25

Sim yourself as you start to close in on 25%

[craggy barn]

yes

[lilac crescent]

cool thanks friend

[keen cedar]

Use sounds when they drop

[bright cedar]

eyo, i am once again back with stats question.

1. I can use the HC crown neck, which is a ton of haste, with some mastery, which gets me these stats (before flask): 30.83% (981) crit, 22.69% (841) haste, 18.65% (490) mastery
   or
2. I can use the PoS neck, that gets me 34.65% (1134) crit, 19.6% (709) haste and 17.7% (446) mastery

which should I use, and what flask should I pair it with?

[quaint kelp]

hello gamers, just watched the Wox video, after prekey, is it legit to press BtE in 1st GCD ?

i believed it was KS in 1st for start dps with the Flawless Form active ?

[snow vessel]

You can sim it and the flask at the same time

[lavish halo]

Stupid question, ive killed Chimaerus serveral times as a range, so just to be safe Ive always kept me on my assigned side. But when melee is it so we can "stack" none are in the soaking phase ?

Its only when someone goes to the other realm we need to stay on our sides ?

[bright cedar]

as a melee you're pumping the boss exclusively until small adds are close enough (past the madness soak markers)

otherwise you are going to kill people

and for the big add you're fine, cause usually they will be in melee cleave range

[bright cedar]

i hate simming for keys i despise it. neither dungeonslice nor dungeonroute is generally accepted as a realistic scenario

[lavish halo]

Ok ty

[snow vessel]

What is a realistic scenario

[bright cedar]

idk, an actual dungeon but yeah, I started a sim already with those setups

[snow vessel]

Simming is inherently a baseline it’s not meant to be representative of an exact fight or raid fight

A dungeonslice sim will still give a more accurate answer than someone guessing based on stat numbers

[bright cedar]

i value personal experience of others who play this spec a lot more. cause simming is playing absolutely ideally in a perfect world. and I know myself to be far from that in chaotic environments such as keys for raids it's a lot more straightforward

[tough dust]

hello guys. i wanted to ask for endgame what is the best crafts and embelishments. i suppose arcanoweave for cloak and maybe boots? but i cant seem to find an exact answer. i know we are simming for it but i dont have overal bis yet and i'm still lacking a few core items. i just want the most value overall for endgame with 280+ ilvl. thank you

[timid portal]

everything is in outlaw faq

[snow vessel]

I understand but no one can tell you which of those is better from personal experience it is better to compare the perfect world because that is the only way to make a comparison if someone told you X neck is better they are comparing off a smaller sample size and potentially situations they fuck up even if you don’t perfectly emulate the sim it will still say which is better

If you fuck up your rotation you should lose about the same dps it’s just which gives the higher average

[tough dust]

its not i checked it but there is no overall bis. only to sim and to go for crafted weapon embelishment. although in sims the weapon embelishment falls off against the 2 arcanoweaves

[snow vessel]

The exception to that is certain trinkets but in the case of neck stats

[tough dust]

thats why i ask if some1 with deeper knowledge than mine could help me

[snow vessel]

If you don’t have full mythic hand/head/legs/chest/gloves you should craft an embellishment there because it is better when you have less gear

You have finite crests so you would rather spend 80 crests there than cloak/bracers

Those slots give more stats

[tough dust]

i understand. so since i got myth bis bracers, bis rings and neck (hero) but got shit gloves i should just ctalyst the other pieces and craft gloves and 1 more tiem for embelishment?

[thorn cypress]

guys is this right? solarflare is not suppose to be better?

[snow vessel]

Ye if you don’t have a mythic weapon you should craft that

[snow vessel]

Is the solar flare hc ilvl?

[thorn cypress]

yes

[snow vessel]

Hmm no clue it simmed better for me

[tough dust]

ok my man but since we can craft multiple items. should i craft myth main hand (got myth bis dagger OH) without embelishment and get 2 other embelishments on other pieces? or just craft weapon with hunt and replace my lowest ilvl with embelishment?

[thorn cypress]

weird... idk maybe crucible buff uptime? idk

[snow vessel]

Just craft weapon with hunt if you don’t have a mythic outlaw mh

I don’t think crafting is crest efficient this tier

Especially with bonus rolls giving significantly more mythic items to everyone

[tough dust]

ok mate thank you

[craggy barn]

depends on ur stats and gear which is better

when ive simmed it its flopped between the two at various points

[bright cedar]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dXh4Rb42wZWwu7BZtFNTt8

no matter what I do, guidon sims the best for all dungeons

yet nobody ever runs that shit

[snow vessel]

I assume cuz you’re comparing a 289 guidon vs a 276 prism

My sims said to run it as well

Just ilvl diff

[bright cedar]

yeah i don't have max prism just yet, but I will be rolling for it this week

i'll rerun the sim and exclude guidon ig. or just add a 289 prism

[snow vessel]

I assume most people who are playing a lot of outlaw in keys either don’t have or don’t want to spend crests on a mythic guidon

It’s just if you had one from playing sub it seems “decent”

[woeful otter]

guys ,how to u use ur bonus roll ？Alnseer？ or other dungeons

[snow vessel]

HC plume ofc destroys it

[thorny hull]

😛

[snow vessel]

Depends on the gear you have

If you have lots of orher mythic pieces gaze is probably better

If you have very few mythic pieces getting 2 from dungeons is better

Try using droptimiser and look at the Expected Value from rolling on different dungeons/boss

And just remember you get 2 dungeons for every boss roll

[bright cedar]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6V4xt3my5i2vqqZSZm3bwf

okay so this is my current best

swap to more haste from bracer, use haste flask

and then swap enchant to crit instead of haste

and then I have the baseline 25% haste

and everything can go into crit, like trinket procs or weapon ench

[snow vessel]

Makes sense

I had to reshift all my stats last night cuz of Lura ring

[bright cedar]

i just finished recrafting everything from haste mastery to haste crit as well

been playing sub since release

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel

rare guy crashout https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1113806620988809216

?

[autumn snow]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Why don't we macro trinkets to abilities?

• You want to use trinkets while BtE is active, but you can't macro them to BtE, as breaking vanish with a trinket will cause Subterfuge to not activate, so Vanish > BtE macro could fail.
• Trinkets are your only on demand burst damage, you sometimes want to hold it for specific mobs or vulnerability windows.
• You usually don't want to send it on a dying mob.

[silk obsidian]

Hi, I don't know which dungeon i breloque, some one can help me dicide for me (i have 4 breloque)

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hk4qs9RpBLG3fzvrfXjHxo

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tBQYC5ioXUFCC5KrQDZ7My

[upper hazel]

somedays outlaw can make really fun 😄 Strange comp but was a nice key (PoS 13)

[hardy wigeon]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[wintry solar]

1.) KS hits random targets because they wanted trickster to be less punishing when using the vessel ability (KS) without flurry so it'll still apply the debuff to surrounding targets.

2.) If we give feedback saying to ignore feedback, would that make blizz listen to feedback and cancel out ignoring feedback?

Thoughts?

[grim spear]

If we give feedback saying to ignore feedback, would that make blizz listen to feedback and cancel out ignoring feedback?

sounds like some vibe coding tricks lol

[wintry solar]

They'll be right at home then

[grim spear]

So blizz designers are actually AI agents with a limited context and low token budget

[wintry solar]

Idk about all that, I was moreso suggesting reverse psychology

[river wing]

1. why would you use KS without Flurry unless you were hitting a single target anyway

[wintry solar]

Accessibility

Noob proof

[river wing]

sounds like a really stupid way to do it like that...then lock all the other AoE capability into BF anyway

[wintry solar]

If it only applies to spreading the debuff to other targets via KS then it tracks. If Noob didn't have BF up and pressed KS there'd be procs on more than just prio target.

I think someone at Blizz pressed KS without flurry

And gave us this abomination

[crimson scarab]

I think ur assuming someone at Blizz even plays outlaw 🙁

[wintry solar]

Lol yeah

It was a joke with a 1% of worry behind it

At most they hit a dummy with it to test

[crimson scarab]

one can only hope

[split jolt]

Does using a roll in a 10, also remove that from the pool at 11, 12 etc? Not sure if i heard it was bugged so it only removes from the key level you roll on?

[inland acorn]

It should remove from others too, but I'm not 100% sure

[grim sentinel]

Hey, what do I need to know when switching from fatebound to trickster? Dispatch at 6+, bte>ks, kir at stage 3 or higher, sinister strike at 1cp over pistolshot no longer applies?

[inland acorn]

Yes to everything you said

[glass mortar]

yup

[grim sentinel]

Is that all?

[thorn plinth]

yo a question anyone knows what could cause my old WAs to pop up when using m33kauras? i legit deleted anything having WeakAura or WA in name xd

[proven ocean]

[timid portal]

ghosts of the past haunt you

[thorn plinth]

i mean it was nice to take a look at the old jpc style ui sure brings back memories lol

but we gotta move on and improve current ui

[real mauve]

anyone losing their roll the bones buff when they hit kir?

[crimson scarab]

sometimes it bugs and the rolls isnt shown on the UI

[real mauve]

ah ok

[crimson scarab]

but u can see it usually in the top right where the usual buffs are

its shit 😭

[real mauve]

yeah it was happening all raid lol was so annoying

[crimson scarab]

yeah happened to me yesterday also while raiding

[real mauve]

id just rtb right after

[crimson scarab]

was pissing me off so much

the buff is still active tho

[real mauve]

only happens in raid which is strange

[crimson scarab]

it just isnt shown

[real mauve]

for me atleast

[crimson scarab]

so try not to RTb especially if u have a good roll

i think for me as well only in raid

[topaz fox]

!opener

[zinc briar]

We know something about season 2 release date?

[river forge]

if i get 25% haste without consumes, should i just swap to crit flask?

[glass mortar]

u cannot use dual daggers as outlaw

u will not be able to cast dispatch with a dagger mh

[hybrid pecan]

What's the exact number of the haste breakpoint? Not percent

[trail galleon]

do I still drink haste flask or shud switch to crit one

[glass mortar]

u should be able to compare flasks in top gear now

but probably haste

[frank hamlet]

which spec is better on each raid boss?

[still matrix]

Anyones Ayjiecdm just broken?

cant move anything around

since patch

[hardy wigeon]

Outlaw on all bosses, hope that helps x

[frank hamlet]

sub is better on beloren isnt it?

[fair sparrow]

yes by far

outlaw is not good on beloren

sub is also better on nexus

and on crown

[hardy wigeon]

That is simply propaganda, outlaw is the best everywhere

[frank hamlet]

i feel weird on dragons and vanguard

[fair sparrow]

but you can get away with playing outlaw everywhere else

[vivid vessel]

waht is nexus

[fair sparrow]

rogue just sucks on dragons and vanguard

saladbar = nexus

[vivid vessel]

thats not true tho

[jolly geyser]

Saladbar is saladbar

[fair sparrow]

i mean

cleaving orbs is not a rogue's job

[vivid vessel]

yes

im talking boss damage

[vivid vessel]

ye it does the exact same damage lo

[fair sparrow]

its much easier to get that damage as sub thanks to the short amp phases that line up with blades

[earnest sphinx]

!macros

[fair sparrow]

but yeah

you can play outlaw anyways

[earnest sphinx]

lads

[fair sparrow]

its not a hard check boss

[earnest sphinx]

how do i setup insta grapple

[vivid vessel]

but it doesnt line up with blades

is the thing

so

[fair sparrow]

the first amp lines up with blades

[vivid vessel]

if it lined up with blades naturally

[fair sparrow]

the second you might have to hold a bit or can send on orbs

[vivid vessel]

@ cursor

[earnest sphinx]

#showtooltip Grappling Hook
/cast [@cursor] Grappling Hook

like this?

[vivid vessel]

y

[earnest sphinx]

ty

[alpine cape]

Since wow analyzer isn't working for outlaw, is there any easy way to analyze what the outlaws with most damage are doing? Besides the logs of course

[earnest sphinx]

zac when stream

ur literally the only source of law gameplay

[vivid vessel]

tonight

19h eu time

[earnest sphinx]

👍

[alpine cape]

[earnest sphinx]

i will be in raid.

unlucky

[vivid vessel]

gege

[frank hamlet]

okay ty

[grand shoal]

If I get my sword to 289 and I have 285 dagger can I upgrade my other dagger up to 289 or do I need to spend 20 more crests

[vivid vessel]

need t ospend 20 more

[thorn plinth]

zac is there any guide in your ui file how to setup feint thingy and timelinereminders? its kinda huge, I've asked bit on chat yesterday and tried to figure it out but I couldnt even find timelinereminder addon, just found some sync option

[halcyon chasm]

have you guys found dropping acrobatic strikes for better rtb to be worth?

[vivid vessel]

timeline reminder is the addon from liquid and i think its paywalled

but you can do the same with mrt i think

[thorn plinth]

anlaki

will try

the circle is noice

[vivid vessel]

eh maybe not actually it doesnt seem updated for new dungeons

[thorn plinth]

gg, eyes addon then

[vivid vessel]

im sure there is other addons that can do that tho

could do it with weak aura prolly

[native tinsel]

why do we suck at dragons lol

[gaunt phoenix]

cuz low cleave just aint that good

[jolly geyser]

used to be

[glass mortar]

before they took it out back and shot it

🙂

[snow vessel]

Eh I think it’s fine

I wouldn’t say it’s particularly good but I’d never say a guild should avoid playing their rogue on that fight or something

I think it’s just kinda mid

[native tinsel]

Yeah, that is what I thought as well

[snow vessel]

Vanguard I would actually say if you have anyone else who can play over the rogue I would recommend it

[native tinsel]

Issue is that devourer is just OP

[vivid vessel]

@gaunt phoenix

thoughts on the fact you can be out of energy not even 3 min into the key

in full aoe packs

coming out of an adr with 3buff

kinda crazy no

[proven ocean]

Zac

[vivid vessel]

pressed 4 ss no procs in a row gg spec broke doesnt work anymore

[gaunt phoenix]

i love having 3 charges of tea, then glancing at it 15 seconds later and they're gone

[proven ocean]

Same

[vivid vessel]

idk

this is such a shit iteration

idk how this can happen

[proven ocean]

Tea should just increase energy regeneration by 100% for 20 seconds

[mighty pivot]

have you tried not pressing any buttons until you are over the 30 energy threshold

[proven ocean]

3 charges

Or 15 seconds

[pastel cloud]

let auto attack solo 🔥

[vivid vessel]

outlaw should litteraly have 3x the energy regen we have rn

[proven ocean]

Or 30 seconds

[vivid vessel]

then it would be playable

[proven ocean]

And 1 min cd

[vivid vessel]

specs disgusting rn

[proven ocean]

So u can have it half the time

3 charges

Should help with downtime

Current tea is just useless

Doesnt solve any problem

[mighty pivot]

3x the energy

[proven ocean]

Nah

100% energy regen for 30 seconds

1 minute cd

3 charges

[native tinsel]

makes no sense buddy

[proven ocean]

Says the assa

[native tinsel]

might as well just remove the skill and baseline it

[proven ocean]

Nobody’s talking to u bud

[vivid vessel]

ninja

[mighty pivot]

their insistence on not tweaking combat potency or flourish is pretty annoying ngl

[vivid vessel]

waht do i have access to

[proven ocean]

Assa players

[vivid vessel]

in term of knowing mob type and shit

is there apis

[native tinsel]

i just like the color, i play all specs

[vivid vessel]

i couldnt find

maybe im noob

[proven ocean]

We’re not a ninja tho

We are cow

I mean

Outlaw

Or pirate

Idk

[proven ocean]

Thats what every assa player says

[snow vessel]

For some reason last night on lura I was getting just the worst fucking SS rng I felt

Just perma out of energy p1

Couldn’t do shit

[proven ocean]

Purple plays outlaw!!!!!

[vivid vessel]

ye idk

[proven ocean]

What!!

[red pike]

isnt sub is the ninja part?

[vivid vessel]

this no energy outlaw

[proven ocean]

Ronkley since when u outlaw

[vivid vessel]

isnt it

[proven ocean]

?

[snow vessel]

Then you have you have to feint and it is just pain

[proven ocean]

Ya

[vivid vessel]

:D

[proven ocean]

Fully ninja

[native tinsel]

and it does not matter the stage of rtb

[vivid vessel]

some packs in keys i legit feint on cd ronkle

[native tinsel]

i felt it sometimes too

[vivid vessel]

imagine the pain

at least in raid you dont feint much

[snow vessel]

My guild asked me to rogue this tier and when outlaw was buffed I decided to play it all the bosses

Killed Lura last night as outlaw

[proven ocean]

Based

[vivid vessel]

huge

[snow vessel]

I was hoping to be first but I will take 2nd

[vivid vessel]

im working on it aswell

[native tinsel]

how was it?

[snow vessel]

It’s good

I think it is as good and can rng better than sub

[mighty pivot]

correct. There is UnitClassification and UnitClassBase and UnitIsLieutenant and I think you can also check if the unit has mana or not (which isn't always useful)

[snow vessel]

It’s just Sub pads p4 damage better than you

[native tinsel]

does rogue carry the yellow gem or not, idk

[snow vessel]

P1-3 you are as good

[west ridge]

i do

[snow vessel]

I would still say playing sub is good on the fight cuz it’s so simple and there’s a lot going on

[vivid vessel]

ok i see

none of these are helpful i think

maybe class

[snow vessel]

But if you like outlaw I think it is decent

[vivid vessel]

i was hoping i could check mob tyoe

[native tinsel]

but you played as outlaw for prog or farm?

[vivid vessel]

like undead and shit you know

[proven ocean]

tyoe

[snow vessel]

I did like 100 pulls as sub then played outlaw when 0.5 dropped

So progged mostly as outlaw

[proven ocean]

Cant wait for assassin creed blackflag

U all should play it when its out too

[desert tendon]

I dont

i wont

[proven ocean]

U dont play outlaw

So it doesnt include u

Xensi..

[desert tendon]

Zerocool...

[snow vessel]

But ye Zac I agree I swear I feel more rng swings in if I am proccing ss than rolls or bte resets

Cuz energy is just fucking zilch

Even pressing AR I have energy issues sometimes in p2 cuz of how often you feint that phase

[upper hawk]

so does outlaw wildly oversim or am I bad?

[worldly zephyr]

Killed mythic salad bar as outlaw last night. Had a few pulls where it was just jackpot after jackpot, and like 10 bte resets in a row. But of course I got mid rng when we finally killed him

[snow vessel]

I don’t think it over sims

[desert tendon]

10 bte reset

[upper hawk]

like my single target 5 min patchwerk is 127k, but 99% on vorasius heroic is 113k. how is that right?

[jolly geyser]

boss didnt wanna give you good parse so he locked in and wiped the raid

[upper hawk]

am i simming someting wrong?

[worldly zephyr]

haha maybe it wasn’t 10 but it was the most I’ve ever got in a row. Maybe I’ll dig through some logs

[vivid vessel]

ok legit every mob in the game is a warrior tf

[mighty pivot]

C_CreatureInfo.GetCreatureTypeInfo but I dunno if you can do anything with it other than display

[desert tendon]

i mean just open your log and your sim, and check on critrate, average hit, and stuff

you ll see if there is a difference here

[proven ocean]

99% can still have alot of mistakes

Since its a heroic log

Also

Sims show avg dmg

[vivid vessel]

ye but what is this tho

[native tinsel]

link the sim rq

[proven ocean]

So u can do way higher

Or way lower

[snow vessel]

127k also sounds like you have vantus on

[upper hawk]

i understand all that. but there are enough good rogues and at this point vorasius is a target dummy on heroic. you'd think there would be more ppl doing more than my not uber-geared rogue

[snow vessel]

So that will also be a big factor because you probably aren’t vantusing vorasius

[upper hawk]

is vantus worht 10%?

[desert tendon]

can u please send me logs and sim, i want to check something easy

[proven ocean]

Link ur sim

Also

No offense but im 99% certain ur not playing outlaw perfectly

[mighty pivot]

probably UnitCreatureType instead actually. Assuming it's available in retail's api (wiki is confusing)

[upper hawk]

I know i'm not, but i'm looking at every outlaw parse to see 99% level right? surely someone is and they should be closer to my sim?https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6aYHup54sF1NGQXo4u7pee

[fair sparrow]

if this is about heroic, you do have to remember that most of the good geared rogues are not doing heroic

so you are not parsing against them

[tranquil folio]

How was your rtb and bte rng? The damage difference between levels 2,3 and jackpot is large. Also getting cucked by bte going on cd in an ar frequently will result in a poor parse

[upper hawk]

I know I'm bad, but i'm just tyring to figure out how bad

[vivid vessel]

right, this do be secret tho unfortunate

idk how much you can do with secrets

[upper hawk]

and how much is just the sim goes higher htan any real life rogues do

[fair sparrow]

there isnt really a "how bad" idk, you shouldnt be comparing your log to a sim

[vivid vessel]

would i be able to have a color curved based on a secret return ninja

[fair sparrow]

just follow the rules of the spec

sims are a guideline

[vivid vessel]

if it returns me a secret number

[upper hawk]

mainly our group is progging midnight heroic. we're not great and we're righ tat the dps check for 2 crystal strat... so i'm debating between sin and outlaw

my outlaw sims nearly 20k higher

but in practice...

[native tinsel]

You can see some more details about the sim in the full html report. Do a quick sim and you can see the link, you will be able to see this graph as well, it shows the variations of the dps. I do not know if this is still useful or ever was, but, I remember this at least once was relevant

[fair sparrow]

outlaw is going to do more boss damage than sin yeah

[mighty pivot]

maybe. I haven't used curves. They do work with secrets but you can't apply curves to everything

[vivid vessel]

was thinking plate recoloring, im assuming color curves would work on these since its a status bar prolly

im getting tilted on some dungeons

having same color for every mob in some packs

[vivid vessel]

i guess its true

i mean outlaw does good damage rn

but seems like no one is reaching their sim dps really

[mighty pivot]

the problem is that even if you could colour based on creature type, dungeons tend to have the same types mostly

[vivid vessel]

idk why

[vivid vessel]

eh

this pack

the dudes are undead

and the dragons are beast

for example

in caverns all these dudes are humanoid while everything else is beast

so i could filter them out of my mind

[twilit axle]

Last night I was doing low keys with the homies and Outlaw felt like ASS. Couldnt fucking do damage for the life or me. But higher keys with bigger pulls it felt better? I feel like Outlaw wouldnt care much about "key too low " no?

[vivid vessel]

with another color

like what im thinking is just once i go down the list of lieutnant > UnitClassification etc, i can add another layer so that the normal mobs arent all red

know what i mean

[true jackal]

is outlaw good in raid now

?

[twilit axle]

Pretty good if you can not spend on 5 like me.

Classic habits are rough man.

[mighty pivot]

yes but it might not be possible. I think otherwise people would've done it already

[vivid vessel]

eh

[true jackal]

interesting coz parses show its is

[vivid vessel]

like 4 weeks ago plater added a new coloring options for mobs

based on another category

3 weeks ago maybe

i dont think its too out of here to think they would either not have thought about it or not think it would be good to do

which i would disagree with

[mighty pivot]

you can try it

[vivid vessel]

i will

and none is gonna stop me

[vivid vessel]

also you say that but

like 2 weeks ago

[mighty pivot]

except maybe blizzard's restrictions

[fair sparrow]

sorry i wasnt following

[vivid vessel]

some guy legit remapped every mob

[fair sparrow]

whats the benefit of coloring based on mob type

[mighty pivot]

that was an exploit

technically

[vivid vessel]

i know

but technically everything is an exploit

so

does blizzard really want you to recolor mob based on mob type, mob mana and shit

idk

but they allow it for now

[mighty pivot]

noooo, not really. If something is patched as fast as that thing was, it is an exploit. Otherwise it's just using the little things that we have

if blizzard was not ok with using mob type it would've been killed

[vivid vessel]

yes

im just saying

you dont know what is an exploit

till blizzard decides its an exploit

[mighty pivot]

they have been killing things with no/short notice all expansion

[snow vessel]

I miss my plater being usable

[vivid vessel]

look at that liquid weak aura

for lura bro

[native tinsel]

plater just vomits errors in my chat now

god bless bugsack

[mighty pivot]

ye tomorrow ion might wake up grumpy and delete cdm customization you never know

[vivid vessel]

i know

so idk

to me

everything is an exploit

[fair sparrow]

isnt the liquid lura "wa" the same as whats in NSRT right now

[vivid vessel]

or rather

nothing is an exploit

till blizzard decide it is

if you look at m+

they decided they would fix most of the snapping tech this season

snapping been used in keys since forever

but apparently this season it has gone too far

[snow vessel]

They had a more advanced one originally iirc

[native tinsel]

wasnt in bfa that they kinda decided to go against it

[mighty pivot]

have they done something about this, or said they will?

[vivid vessel]

ye they fixed all the academy snaps

they also fixed people pulling trough walls and doing whatever fuckery in skyreach

which btw is crazy

cause that key is now legit 2 min slower

but timer wasnt adjusted

[native tinsel]

cuz i remember that in bfa almost every dungeon had snapping stuff

[vivid vessel]

so i guess gg

[pure folio]

theres still one left

[vivid vessel]

which one

oh the dh

thingy

right

over the door

[fair sparrow]

ah right

[pure folio]

nah u can chi burst through the wall after first boss

and pull into that pack

[vivid vessel]

i mean they fixed that one no ?

[pure folio]

nah

[mighty pivot]

yet tricks still snaps them to narnia

[pure folio]

been doing it today/last night

they fixed pulling into the first boss

[native tinsel]

that first pull of MT as well?

was it fixed?

[pure folio]

MT u can still do

nmah

just did it

[fair sparrow]

nope you can still do

[pure folio]

like 20 mins ago

@vivid vessel

this pull

[vivid vessel]

yeye

we were doing it last week

[pure folio]

can still do

[vivid vessel]

and then idk

we thought it was fixed

i dont think we did a skyreach in a bit tho

we timed 21 and that was it

[pure folio]

prob just missed it

[vivid vessel]

never went back

[pure folio]

i thought the MT one was fixed but i just missed it twice 💀

they fixed pulling this one into boss tho

cant interact with them till boss is ded

[native tinsel]

how did you do it before

crackling jade?

[pure folio]

exploding keg

[grim spear]

ye!

[native tinsel]

goddamn

you were bold

nice!

[grim spear]

Actually, prog of this boss, playing Outlaw doesn't feel bad.

[native tinsel]

the downtime though

[grim spear]

It's ok
it affects the first Bloodlust, but after that you can keep going the whole fight.

and you can funnel on the adds

[viscid scaffold]

do i want to play the m+ otlw build as soon as there are adds or are there more swaps that can be made?

[rancid silo]

outlaw has funnel?

[fair sparrow]

maybe he meant tunnel lmao

[grim spear]

yep

deft

[hybrid mesa]

we just callin anything funnel nowadays huh

[tropic zephyr]

yeah it's not funnel, we don't redirect damage to the prio target, we benefit from multiple targets to get more resources/DPS on our prio

[hybrid mesa]

the so called "funnel"

[twilit axle]

My favorite thing is for my key group to pull ads to the boss for "Funnel" and I am like "yep I love when we have funnel for the boss" with bf active

[vivid vessel]

thats called funnel

[tropic zephyr]

heh

[vivid vessel]

it litteraly is the definition of funnel

you can say we dont have much funnel

its very little

[snow vessel]

Depends on your raid and boss

[vivid vessel]

sure

but its called funnel

otherwise what is funnel for you

[tropic zephyr]

to me the literal definition was like sin bleed build

[snow vessel]

If the adds die in 0.5 seconds I would just play the ST build anyway

[vivid vessel]

only assa has funnel then

only spec in the game i guess

[tropic zephyr]

yeah i guess

[vivid vessel]

ye so

[tropic zephyr]

[vivid vessel]

you are wrong then

[snow vessel]

Like I cba going aoe for first boss or nexus king because the adds are nonexistent in my guild

[hybrid mesa]

it's the most minimal funnel in the world but technically it's funnel

so we do the same glass but close the walls off by like 0.5 degrees

[vivid vessel]

no one falling for this anymore lil bro

well you did i guess

massive skill issue

[hybrid mesa]

anymore?

now that i think of it are there even any funnel specs left

[vivid vessel]

idk

[rancid silo]

priest

[hybrid mesa]

enh and arcane funnel got gutted

[vivid vessel]

at what point do you consider a funnel spec a funnel spec lol

[hybrid mesa]

havoc ar got nerfed

[vivid vessel]

half the specs in this game funnel

[hybrid mesa]

half the specs in this game cleave

[vivid vessel]

and rn the strongest funnel in the game is arms prolly

[tropic zephyr]

ret has big 1mn button funnel

[hybrid mesa]

oh yeah there's ret

[vivid vessel]

arms

alo

[hybrid mesa]

how does arms funnel

[tropic zephyr]

how does arms funnel works?

[snow vessel]

Sub on Zul

[vivid vessel]

arms double its st by having 2 mobs on boss

[tropic zephyr]

ik they do tank dmg if they have only 1 target

[hybrid mesa]

bro that's called cleave

not funnel

tf

[tropic zephyr]

other than that idk how they work

[vivid vessel]

?

double ITS ST

SINGLE TARGET

[hybrid mesa]

okay

[rancid silo]

what makes them do that

[hybrid mesa]

now what happens when a third target comes in

[vivid vessel]

they do more st

[twilit axle]

More rage I would guess

More rage = more buttons

[hybrid mesa]

how does the third target make them do more st

if sweeping only cleaves to another target

¿

[twilit axle]

More targets to build rage on.........

[vivid vessel]

idk arms well

i assume this is part of it

[hybrid mesa]

bro genuinely doesn't play arms

[vivid vessel]

i mean do you ?

[tropic zephyr]

ha yeah

[vivid vessel]

you dont even know arms has funnel

[rancid silo]

no way slam is doubling their damage

[vivid vessel]

when its prolly the strongest funnel in the game

[hybrid mesa]

because it doesn't have funnel tf LMAO

[rancid silo]

is slam their main spender still lol

[vivid vessel]

ok

let me show you smth then

you tell me

[hybrid mesa]

like we GENUINELY gonna compare

[twilit axle]

.......yikes

[hybrid mesa]

AR havoc one shotting elites with more targets

[tropic zephyr]

does feral have funnel rn?

[hybrid mesa]

or arcane

with arms cleaving?

[vivid vessel]

cleaving ?

[hybrid mesa]

foh with that clown shit

[vivid vessel]

do you know the definition

of cleaving

[hybrid mesa]

do you?

[vivid vessel]

i mean you clearly dont

[tropic zephyr]

show abilities breakdown

[hybrid mesa]

or are you gonna ego and talk like you know anything

[jovial hinge]

Is that you?

[red pike]

Bro if Pulling more mobs make ur singel target better than usuall thats funnel

[hybrid mesa]

when you're clearly just a clown

[cinder abyss]

Sub rogue in BFA Uldir to me was funnel that one boss whatever his name is

[snow vessel]

Stop stop stop

[vivid vessel]

arms double its st with 2 more target and you are telling me it doesnt have funnel

lmao

[snow vessel]

This isn’t a useful conversation

[hybrid mesa]

holy

[snow vessel]

If you want to talk about

[rancid silo]

wait you have to cleave/WW to activate that slam

[hybrid mesa]

i cannot with this actual cow

[vivid vessel]

prolly the strongest funnel spec we have had in a while

[snow vessel]

Stop insulting each other

[vivid vessel]

i havent insulted him once

[hybrid mesa]

ye

be fr

he hasn't insulted me

[vivid vessel]

i should tho

[hybrid mesa]

ye u should

i wouldnt care

but u should

[twilit axle]

[vivid vessel]

yes

[gaunt palm]

Does the Risen Warriors in POS steal blade flurry cleave? Not sure how the interaction works

[vivid vessel]

yes cause you are target capped

[jovial hinge]

I enjoy your streams

[vivid vessel]

imma tell my arms warrior he doesnt funnel

we are gonna stop bringing adds on boss

[keen belfry]

I’m back

[vivid vessel]

see what happens

[tropic zephyr]

[vivid vessel]

when his st is divided by 2

[hybrid mesa]

guys you heard it here

[vivid vessel]

omegalul

[daring oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-eating-gif-10104807991349274331

[hybrid mesa]

hitting a 2nd target = more dmg on main target

LMFAO

[keen belfry]

What’s that guy arguing? Hes saying arms doesn’t have funnel?

[hybrid mesa]

big funnel alright

[daring oxide]

Execute cleaving could be funnel?

[vivid vessel]

how does my arm do 113k st

[twilit axle]

Correct

[rancid silo]

I still dont think that ability is funnel but it is good

[hybrid mesa]

cause bros genuinely don't know the difference between cleave and funnel

[keen belfry]

How

[glass shard]

this argument was over as soon as bro made a personal insult

[daring oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-mei-mei-cat-vro-sister-mei-gif-5058489670031568296

[glass shard]

= autolose

[hybrid mesa]

o no

[twilit axle]

Not my argument. Arms definitely needs the funnel

[keen belfry]

What’s this guys argument

What’s he saying

[twilit axle]

Arms doesnt funnel

[hybrid mesa]

bro do you know to read

[red pike]

does it make diffrence if we call it funnel or not ? 😄

[hybrid mesa]

like

[red pike]

it does more dmg

[hybrid mesa]

it's up there

it does more damage to a second target

aka cleave

[keen belfry]

Oh he’s a semantics loser

[hybrid mesa]

if it dealt more damage to a main target = funnel

[vivid vessel]

cleave is doing damage to secondary targets

lmao

[tropic zephyr]

cleaving = damage on prio redirected to all targets
funnel = damage on all targets redirected to prio

Arms does more damage to prio when multiple target present = funnel

[hybrid mesa]

naw im just not a monkey

[vivid vessel]

so you think

arms

does 115 k

st

in misdnight

s1

or

[red pike]

if cleave boost ur dmg to a prio target what do u call it ?

[rancid silo]

show damage break down

how much is that slam doing

[snow vessel]

I mean FoB is funnel inherently because your maintarget instead of getting hit by a slam is being hit by a whirlwind + an amped slam

[vivid vessel]

guys he is using cleave button thats why its not funnel

[glass shard]

@vivid vessel on last boss seat how long before dmg amp do u decide to not send stuff

[vivid vessel]

its cleave !

[snow vessel]

Idk how powerful it is in the grand scheme but that is more prio damage

[rancid silo]

why is cleave hitting so hard LMAO

[snow vessel]

Than just STing

[hybrid mesa]

show me 5 targets vs 20 targets

[red pike]

😄

[keen belfry]

Funnel

[vivid vessel]

idk i swap to sub

[vivid vessel]

what

this is a boss

[glass shard]

despair

[hybrid mesa]

it's simple

if there's 20 targets

he should FUNNEL more

logically

right?

[snow vessel]

Funnel isn’t inherently related to target count

No

[vivid vessel]

not neccesseray lol

[snow vessel]

It’s not logical

[tropic zephyr]

no?

[hybrid mesa]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[rancid silo]

I personally wouldnt call it that

[snow vessel]

It isn’t?

[vivid vessel]

bro is this guy braindead

or what

[red pike]

no man its target cap wtf

[snow vessel]

Like fundamentally

[hybrid mesa]

i cant with these monkeys

[tropic zephyr]

bro you are dead wrong rofl

[cinder abyss]

If a classes damage increases due to a second target that is cleave. If the damage to the main target is amplified because of the 2nd target that is funnel yeah?

[tropic zephyr]

bro

this guy is ragebaiting

[keen belfry]

Hes an idiot

[tropic zephyr]

hard

[keen belfry]

Not even flaming him

[vivid vessel]

of course

[tropic zephyr]

just mute

[hybrid mesa]

nah you guys are just incredibly dumb

[keen belfry]

Like objectively stupid I think

[hybrid mesa]

it's amazing

[glass shard]

this guy rn

[snow vessel]

!mute @hybrid mesa look I should have done it earlier we’ll just leave it here

[tropic zephyr]

[rancid silo]

What do warriors press if they arent cleaving on pure ST lol

[glass shard]

hearthstone

[snow vessel]

Increasing prio damage isn’t funnel apparently

[alpine cape]

hold on, i can solve this with gpt

[vivid vessel]

i dont even think we have had a stronger funnel spec in the last 3 expac btw

[snow vessel]

Now this conversation can be ended

[vivid vessel]

becuase

[glass shard]

yea man ai is known to understand nuance

[keen belfry]

Their goal is to press slam as little as possible basically

[red pike]

i m sure he is just joking and he is currently lagughing at us that we are hardly explaining to him and he already knows he is wrong 😄

[vivid vessel]

arcane needed a bunch of targets during his cds and shit

[vivid vessel]

it was kinda annoying

[keen belfry]

Slam is backup spender in st

[vivid vessel]

arms you just bring 2 mobs that do nothing

its free

and you double the st whatdehelly

its very strong

[snow vessel]

It’s nicer cuz a lower target count is required to maximise the effect for sure

[red pike]

u said u playing sub ?

[snow vessel]

Idk if it’s stronger as a funnel spec

But it’s easier to play around

[rancid silo]

so cleaving + that talent with 3 targets = more ST damage than pressing whatever the other spender is

[vivid vessel]

on last boss seat ye

i havent done it in the 21 cuase

we had free timer

[red pike]

ah ok

[vivid vessel]

and my summon was on cd

but like

its legit 1min rp

[keen belfry]

Yes they have like 3 talents that are literally if your cleave hits 3 targets u do more dmg, and one shoots out an empowered slam

[red pike]

i thought u totally rerolled to sub

[vivid vessel]

so i will just tp out

for hard keys

[unkempt dew]

Pfff everyone and there mother get the skyreach trinket but im never lucky

[red pike]

u do this for MC too?

[keen belfry]

They also simply get more colossal smash stacks in aoe which is funnel IMO

[vivid vessel]

no

i dont think outlaw is bad for cavern amp tho

its a very long damage amp

[copper radish]

Love me some early morning baits 😂

[vivid vessel]

you could legit do 2 adr back to back

its alright

[red pike]

but sub boss dmg is smt else

[vivid vessel]

also you dont have time to swap out

i mean outalw does more boss damage

[tropic zephyr]

it's really strong, but it's kinda balanced in the way that you have to play around it to enable it

[vivid vessel]

in normal scenario

idk if the damage amp is really enough to change things enough

that you would wanna swap out

[vivid vessel]

eh

[tropic zephyr]

i like the cool strat you guys did to get mobs on bosses though

[vivid vessel]

i dont think arms is balanced at all rn

[snow vessel]

I mean funnel is just by having more than 1 mob there you do more damage to the prio target

[tropic zephyr]

yeah but you know what i mean

like it's busted but you have to build everything around it

[vivid vessel]

we did a random for fun key yesterday and our war did this btw

how illegal is this

and arms was still bugged

i think today they got hotfixed

[tropic zephyr]

then bcs farover dps ppl pick up arms warrior and go troll keys doing tank damage on boss

[vivid vessel]

and gain a bit more

[keen belfry]

I agree, funnel is a wide spectrum but I’d disagree with anyone saying this version of arms isn’t funnel

[red pike]

funnel is just flagg in shadowland 😄

[snow vessel]

Target count is irrelevant imo the biggest funnel spec was sub on Zul and that stopped gaining after like 5 targets

If you disagree with zac saying it’s the strongest I can see argument both sides but saying it has none is wrong

[red pike]

the biggest version of funnel was sub in shadowland

with venthyr ability

[vivid vessel]

it barely had unfnel in sl

kinda a meme honestly

that people played this spec

[buoyant stratus]

We all out here ignoring last season DH or what

[vivid vessel]

i think rogue in sl was so overrated

[keen belfry]

Assa rogue funnel last season was crazy

[keen belfry]

This too

[vivid vessel]

if you told people today we played rogue in every key

with rogue doing that

[snow vessel]

Sub used to have a passive that depending on targets hit with shuriken storm it increased the damage of evis up to like 250%

[vivid vessel]

no one would believe you

[buoyant stratus]

Like put dh into arakara its -5 minutes to timer

XD

[snow vessel]

And because SS did no aoe it could funnel the shit out of adds on a boss without killing them

[vivid vessel]

true but

[keen belfry]

Doing an arakara with a dh as outlaw was self sabotage

[red pike]

in SL season 1 Rogues were under Vengence DH in keys

[vivid vessel]

arms funnel is something else idk

but its because the spec also does infinite aoe

[atomic coyote]

New rogues never saw the light

[red pike]

JPC pushing buttons hard to not be under nerf

[buoyant stratus]

Bro i lowkey think NA arms warriors are just trolling

[vivid vessel]

and then you end up with a spec that does infinite overall while also doing infinite st if you just bring 2 mobs on boss

which is super chill

[snow vessel]

Am I a boomer now Weak is that it

[keen belfry]

Why do you think I have a warrior

New warrior

[snow vessel]

Am I quoting expacs no one ever played

[buoyant stratus]

Like where is your damage brossss

[atomic coyote]

Ye we are unc status by now

[vivid vessel]

like number wise it might not be the strongest funnel we had, like dh and arcane did more prolly

[keen belfry]

CHARR

I HAVE A WAR NOW

[buoyant stratus]

Awang!

Big

[vivid vessel]

but arcane did 0 aoe, and the funnel was annoying

[buoyant stratus]

Become the savior of NA

[vivid vessel]

you needed more mobs, you needed them during cds etc

arms is just

[twilit scarab]

So as someone who is been kinda enjoying outlaw again since the change, how much importance do we give zero in? Like is it worth holding between the eyes for it?

[vivid vessel]

ok i get these 2 useless mobs

[keen belfry]

You don’t care…

[buoyant stratus]

Also i think tanks are insane trolling too

[vivid vessel]

and arms double its st gg

[buoyant stratus]

Oh sorry

[vivid vessel]

dont track it

[snow vessel]

Just hold BTE for AR

[buoyant stratus]

BIGGLY SIGNA RIZZALER HOLY SAMOLE

[keen belfry]

Yeah nbd

[snow vessel]

Don’t think abiut anything else

[red pike]

currently if they give this version of subb rogue that we have right now smt like flag it will be huge

[buoyant stratus]

AwangAwangawangawang

[keen belfry]

Yeah that’s me

[twilit scarab]

ah so we do just bte whenever it pops up or adrenaline rush windows?

[buoyant stratus]

Wangbar warrior edition

[vivid vessel]

i genuily think rogue in sl has just a massive bias perception cause of what its been the expacs before

[snow vessel]

Bte perma except with like 30-35 seconds on AR

[vivid vessel]

and the fact you had a bunch of rogue one tricks

at the top of the ladder

in the top teams

but if rogue had the same tuning nowadays

it wouldnt be played at all

if we would redo sl rn

no one is logging in on rogue in keys

[tropic zephyr]

i just remembered SL S1 tanking

[red pike]

yea i defentely go for a fire mage

[tropic zephyr]

i don't want to remember that

[glass mortar]

man i missed out on a tremendous ragebait

good stuff zac fightem

[twilit scarab]

i know im dumb XD dumb but ui only understand like half of that

[glass mortar]

u want to bte on cd (at appropriate CP of course) unless AR is 30s or less away

then u hold it

[snow vessel]

BTE on cd except if your cooldown of Adrenaline Rush is less than 35 seconds ish

[twilit scarab]

ahhh ok!

ty guys!

[vivid vessel]

because of supercharger talent btw

[snow vessel]

Ye

[twilit scarab]

yeah that makes sense

[vivid vessel]

makes your 2 finishers after adr big

[twilit scarab]

i imagine its best to br for the 4 piece damage boost at the same time?

[vivid vessel]

synergise very well with bte especially with ace being a proc scaling with cps

so + 3 cp is big value

[vivid vessel]

no you dont care

hit it on cd

[twilit scarab]

ah ok

[buoyant stratus]

Br on cd = more energy more damage pew pew

[red pike]

should i use blade rush in between of Ace procs?

[snow vessel]

Yes

[glass shard]

why are they glowing

can i turn it off

[twilit scarab]

the new guide system

[vivid vessel]

its the route thingy

[snow vessel]

Recommended pathing tbing

[vivid vessel]

idk if you can turn it off lol

[snow vessel]

Speak to key lady in silvermoon

Fairly sure you can

Or it’s like the tank of the group has to decide if it’s on or not

[twilit scarab]

Oh one last question because icy viens and wowhead disagree on this, is it crit primary or haste primary for my stat goals?

[alpine cape]

almost sure that if tank turns it on, it shows for the whole group

[snow vessel]

Haste to a point

[glass shard]

annoying

[buoyant stratus]

Guys do i bte at 29 when the sun is at its apex and the moon rises and i have a gun pointed at me and the scary man is telling me to parse better and

[snow vessel]

Crit is also very strong

[tropic zephyr]

actually vile by blizz to recommend getting this patrol

[snow vessel]

Just sim items

Robit knows

[alpine cape]

probably the reason players were bugged, marked with lindormi

[glass mortar]

only if mercury is in retrograde

[pure folio]

u can turn it off just talk to her again

[buoyant stratus]

Ohhh

[glass mortar]

u can make a WA for that tho

[snow vessel]

You mean a MA

[buoyant stratus]

U mean a MA?

[glass mortar]

itll always be weak in my heart

[snow vessel]

[buoyant stratus]

LMAO

[keen belfry]

@buoyant stratus

[buoyant stratus]

Holy aura

[keen belfry]

look what this guys did

[buoyant stratus]

I cant wait to be a naked dwarf with a pick axe and a shovel

[buoyant stratus]

Raids over44r

[keen belfry]

he hated my gear

[buoyant stratus]

Tuff

I beat an outlaw rogue in a 12 on my 246 dh

I felt a bit bad

[alpine cape]

oh you're the one i did skyreach yesterday

matumbo didn't like the 230 ilvl

[tropic zephyr]

i know someone fucks if they pull up like this

[buoyant stratus]

Hit him with the mchimba bolls rest

[carmine mountain]

Clearly the outlaw rogue wasn't that good I take it?

oups wrong answer but you get what im saying xD

[buoyant stratus]

Probably

280 ilvl should not be doing 120k overall in pit

[keen belfry]

ive risen since then

[snow vessel]

Suspicious

[alpine cape]

[keen belfry]

who were u cuh

[carmine mountain]

Looking sharp xD

[alpine cape]

the people's outlaw

[keen belfry]

mhm

[glass shard]

i thought that was only in 2-4s

[keen belfry]

now thats a banger team

[carmine mountain]

Yeah i don't know whats the right number exactly for pit but getting beat by a 246 DH is not lol

[snow vessel]

They changed it this patch so it could be used higher if you wanted to

[twilit scarab]

ye

[glass shard]

ok gonna see with the keystone lady

if i can toggle it off

seems like no

fucking annoying

ty blizz

[atomic coyote]

party leader toggles it

[random stirrup]

fellow rerolla?

[glass shard]

u get myth from a +10 reroll right

[obsidian light]

yes

[glass shard]

ty

[wet nest]

is the ilvl higher if u bonus roll on higher than +10 key?

[keen belfry]

no

[snow vessel]

No it’s just 1/6m

[wet nest]

ty

[keen belfry]

system is banger for alts

[smoky grotto]

Hello, small question about something that’s confusing me in my gameplay: when Adrenaline Rush is ready, BTE is also ready, but I already have full combo points — what should I do? Should I press AR even though I’m already full, to supercharge my next BTE? Or should I Dispatch first, then AR → BTE? Or use BTE first so I don’t lose a GCD on the ability before using AR? Thanks!

[random stirrup]

@keen belfry imagine i get this and then gaze is the last item left in my bonus roll loot pool

my dk is just doomed or what

[tough trellis]

i just dispatch and then AR BTE

[tropic zephyr]

i'd be mad if electrocum stole my gaze

[random stirrup]

3 way 99 tie!

never before seen

[keen belfry]

i cant tell how i feel about it in raid