#outlaw
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and BTE too or BTE 5 is good ?
bte 6+ only
Do i use BR even if BTE is ready at max CP in both aoe and st ? Always thought I prio BTE
Blade rush is effected by restless blades, send it before BtE
BR is the first thing you send
also tier set gives amp
it doesn't generate CP so it never overcaps anything
!prekey
- Use
Adrenaline Rush to activate
Loaded Dice. - As Trickster, use
KS to activate
Disorienting Strikes. - Do NOT use
RTB before the key, you will lose it. - Use
SND during the bubble once the key starts.
they were kinda cheap tbh
they were like +20% over regular versions
seing wow midngiht on these
makes me wanna buy them less
i would never 
Still alot
For a 5070
Might aswell spend that extra for a 5080
Lol
based
As an outlaw main, does it still seem worth swapping to sin for vanguard, as of this patch? Or is it close enough now that it's w/e
i can't imagine being an outlaw main and swapping specs for a cleave fight lol
I can't imagine being an outlaw main and swapping specs.
wait this isnt the sub channel, no wonder there's so many yellow names
Ah right I'm sure most of the sin players on that fight were just swapping from sub
GET ME OUTTA HERE
i ran into someone who did a pikaboo raid apparently
wtached him the other night sending kir on 1 buff and then rolling after
literally today
play sin on nexus point and idk get mad at sin everytime you get targeted with a swirlie while your rotation goes sideways
i know you have infinite money ross
second monitor but also whole season not at the home compy -.0
I wish
ye buy one for me ross
I got a 6000 RTX Pro that’s amazing. Wish I could still SLI those suckers
i have one already
Not rly
wtf is a 90 even
It costs over double for a reason
idk i like how thai cuisine does wings and lobster
cost double so its twice as fast
It is tho
Check benchmarks lol
benchmark this ross 
live next to da riverrrr
higher number=more dmg
Outlaw stonks rising?

4k gaming kek
i dont have 3k to spend on a gpu rn sry
i would get 1 more fps anywya
Its not like its gonna scan my body when playing games
on wow
like 20 minutes longer of optimal dps
Np
If ur not playing on 4k ur missing out anyway
bro
you arent playing on 4k either
you dont even play

youre playing on 0k
how about u play with some bitches >?
idk pork stew friday
cuisine lesson thursday
maybe get better eyes
If ur ego is high and u think 1k is fine up to you
if you need 4k
no ones on 1k bro
ye fuck your ego mewo
Ye
auto bruh is back in addon scene

okay so
what a noob
longer name < less fps
Means better at wow or?
they called it 4k to make it seem bigger
Its fine wemo
they switched to using horizontal
but 4k is actually 2160p
yes
did you not know?
U probably dont knw
you got scammed
peak tricks macro in wrath was tricks macro on a specific name

Which one?
salmonalla or smth idr
your main 4k one
what size is your main monitor you play wow on
What main 4k one i have 4 of them
idk i play wow on all of them
the monitor you put the game youre playing on
he does multi account
the one in front if you
@vivid vessel i think wemo is confused
like race players
okay maybe this is easier
Isnt he
sit in your chair
1k andy
look forward

the size of that
can we get an addon that cuts macros or something like zamn
PLS
nah like fair enough
you dont get it mew o
Nope i have them under the table
tricks lets the rogue ignore threat
2 whole details windows O_O
so theyre all the same size
how big is your biggest 4k monitor
Ok i gotta stop leaking my setups otherwise you’ll find my house
32
or just..stagger the threat redirect by 10 seconds server time so the warlock gets smote
i dont trust 4k gamers because that means they don't play fps with the boys still
they are all in front
you cant just ask him
the size of the one in front
are you stupid mewo ?

1k andys these days
oh also hand of guldan is bugged
i know right
are you stupid mewo ?
please fix it
1k andys these days
check your email

no cmon ball of imps
ugly ass mouse
sorry I pvp I cant have such a casual mouse
4k io mouse btw
ross send me 32 gig of ram please
It turns upside down
only cost like 2k euro
Not just left and right
should be free for you
index trackball or ima sit
I use an ergonomic mouse like that for work, but then use a razor mouse for gaming
Im broke
and uh mm
wonder why
idk
i know you live in a castle lil bro
with 10 supercars
you guys ever seen ross garage?
he has all the cars
Dont post my house pic in here
he drives a land rover
lanborghini ferrari and all the shit
idk there's this chef rant with someone taking cooking classes this summer 🙂
why do you both have basically the exact same profile pic
Whats addy
address
adress
Ah
i come
it's a good black sabbath song snowblind
umbral plume or solarflare prism ?
plumage
the riff at the end isn't as furious
83 inch tv missing only tho gonna buy that in 2 months
No need now since i wont use it anyway rn

Zac if u come to uae i’ll bring u over to my house
okok

Any guidesa where to bonus roll if u dont need mythic gazed ? Do you just sim droptimizer ?
Extrovert in discord tho
who here isnt
ye
True
I’d say im a mix of both
I can be giga extrovert sometimes
And introvert sometimes
Depends on mood

Oh
Nvm i am giga extrovert
Ye
I chat with everyone i see irl basically

I mean
I understand what u mean by that tho
than go and drink coffee with someone yucky
People are usually weird when talking nowadays
They bring up uncalled things
For no reason
Used to be alot different 10 years ago
?? Thats normal what
thats boring
it is normal
its just booooooooooooooooring
its like
filler episode
i should

do i go up a rank if i say i play outlaw
Makes u alot stronger mentally btw
Rly glad i joined army
Good times
U just go through rough days witj ur friends
Then remember it for the rest of ur life
Only needed at 4k tho and 2k
ram nowadays is infinite price so
Ua now better wait
Im pretty sure i bought the best 64gb ram in the world for 300$
@vivid vessel I see on Wlogs you play thief's Versatility instead of Flickering Steel*
And ur showing
not in keys
Double price of mine
in raid i do tho
Sim higher for you?
No more miners
but i decided not to
cause i could always just buy another 32 in a few years
if needed
how clueless of me
3 year ago me
what a noob that guy
if only he had known
No one knew honestly
Cuz we recently jumped from 32gb being overkill being said from random internet noobs
Into actually being capped
With 32
eh
sounds ok
doesnt pass the cut for me

Btw if ur pc ever stutters zac
Like sudden fps lag
Its because of ram likit
Limit
or hard drive loading things
Cuz with 7800x3d and rtx 5080 it will never be because of those 2
Whats that
hard drive in 2026
He has an m.2 anyway or
bro living inside a cave or what
happens on any storage device
Gpu bottleneck never causes stutters with modern ones lol
game has to load things sometimes
720p no bottlenecks
infinite fps
could spend all the money in the world youre not getting the frames I got
40 man raid says hi
Even in a main city??
Zac my balls or?
Not true
Try it
im sold, im trying the 720p tek
!tricks
holy smokes
how much haste are we aiming for?
outlaw burried other rogue specs?
25% but 21%-23% is fine
with flask?
guys im kinda lost in the sauce and i have few questions if i may ask:
1- Should i only use AR if BtE is ready ?
2 - If i have full combos and BtE is ready, and AR is coming in less than 3 or 2 secs, should i do it or hold to AR to buff BtE and ignore the overcap combos?
list is garbage
fake news many would say
slanderous and perhaps libelous if you will
you ar on cd except if the pack is abt to die
if ar is 30s or lower cd u use dispatch instead of bte so you can line up bte with ar
thanks friend.
ive learnt assassination, maybe not mastered it but definitely pretty well.
I have in earlier expansions played a bit of outlaw and I just wanna get an idea if it's worth learning or if I should just stay as assassination for now? Mainly doing m+
Well outlaw is pumping insane damage right now but afaik assa is pretty good as well
I think all 3 rogue specs are doing well rn
amazing start to the week
why is bro wearing a pvp trinket
grats!
anybody else finding that their RTB buff is disappearing from their cooldown manager?
yes. It did this after i downloaded the better tracked bars addon
Do you use the blizzard cdm?
yep
oh so its not my addon
weird
it has made me roll after getting jackpot a few times
kinda sucks
its in the pins
known bug
i finally hit the key level where its just full meta
its over for my pug journey lads
10+?
18
Good thing outlaws meta 😄
Luckily theres like a million more out there cause its the only functional tank 😂 😭
🙂
stop soaking glooms :3
ye was aware but feels 10x worse this patch @glass mortar
yea alot more people r reporting it post 12.0.5 so
are there any solutions? just download other ui addon?
ye
thank you!
nope it happens in all ui addons that skin the cdm
i see
u need a WA specifically to indicate to u the bug is happening
and the WA cant even tell u what ur RtB buff is fyi
only that the bug is happening
i see
u still gotta look at ur buff bar to see ur rtb
well that's still useful
yup
thanks appreciate the pointer
Engineering goggles being my best craft is not what I expected but Im here for it
I do still need some haste
a story
I also dont see myself getting the Seat helm myth any time soon
Bro is living the outlaw dream
the story we are all here for
Anyone got some recommendations on 12.0.5 outlaw YouTube videos with commentary?
Or maybe some good streamers to follow to learn more
Does @keen belfry have a warrior arc coming?
Yall think crafting the Engi helm is troll? It sims 1% higher than Haste/vers or haste/crit helm
yes
77k in a MT 12
nbd
big!
is hmltotems invited.
LMAO
+3% mastery
rsham?
wait wait wait hold on
im already 4 set
Fuck the mastery, Arms feels unplayable without skyfurys 20% auto reset
that too bro @keen belfry
warrior mentioned
hmltotems stocks r high
Quickest way is always get a bunch of mates and spam weekly keys but if that’s not an option
You can get a lot from prey, delves, weekly TW etc
how is a brotha supposed to get 25% haste man all my gear almost has haste o nit
Flask it up brother
But yeah also jewellery is massive for picking your stats, I almost always end up crafting a ring to that end
I have no haste on my waist / one ring / cloak smh
pit pit pit
I’ve been insanely lucky with bonus rolls for bis gear this week but without the pit neck I’m still barely cracking 20%
Do we want to bonus roll for something other than the weapon on Crown? 
goated spec or what bro (jackpot uptime)
Gaze?
Trinket if you don't have 2 good passive
Even the sword isn't an upgrade for me for exemple
I got the legs 
Even in 289?
Yep
It might be if I switch some piece, but for now, it's equal the salhadaar weap
Remember if you’re using crafted weapon with embellish any non embellished weapon will sim lower
Hah that’ll do it too
So, I guess not worth getting more crit
im trying to get someone to craft the engi helm and theres like 0 people who can do it LOL
Maybe this is a sign to just craft a crit/haste one
any crazy outlaw player here right now?
anyone thats an outlaw enjoyer is crazy by default
true
What do you mean by "crazy" ? We're all playing outlaw, so we are crazy
but i need a explanation about when to cast Preparation
i know its when u have AD, BTE and BR on cooldown
ideally after an AR when BTE goes on cd so you get BTE back up during ar
or if the boss has a phase where it takes more damage then use it then
kinda varies
but i'm trying to make the logic for my addon for the Preparation cast
Yeah as long as ADR is used and BTE is reset
Not reset*
Its a good time to prep
Better to use it than let it sit there for a while
its possible to send videos here?
@drifting burrow peak description there
"who needs war"
sorry i was the outlaw in the party
Prob? You can send pics so vids might be fine
lemme see if i can send
do we blade flurry on cleave or no?
Yes
Yes
the guide says 3+ targets though
2+ targets
You're trolling if you dont blade furry on like 2nd boss of wind runner for example
No reason not to
heard, I haven't played outlaw since bfa. Coming from sub it's kind of a lot
see that i made it say use preparation right after all 3 are on cd
Yeah its a pretty complicated spec so dont feel bad lol
Lot to track but very fun once you get it down
i don't know if thats fine to use right after all 3 are on cd
there must be some time to wait or smth
You only care about BTE and ADR
Killing spree doesnt matter for prep
Say youre on pull
You ADR
Blade Rush tho
You don't need to go get the 7th combo point if BTE resets to 6 
i know it was just for the demonstration
If Blade, adr and BTE is down use prep
any ideas how I can track what stage of RTB I'm on better? trying to find that buff in the 30 buffs on pull to know if i should use Keep it rolling is wild.
right away?
get a CDM and use my addon :))
And then just ADR once the current one finishes
so the video is right then? all the alerts are fine as they are
okay im down I just dont know what that means haha what's a CDM? and how do I find that addon?
I mean theres only 4, you'll start to recognize them as you play
use prep right after all 3 are on cd
this
yo is the 25% for outlaw before consums or after?
I mean
After
Theres not a hard rule
Yeah
If you need consumes to get to 25% thats fine
Just means you prob have enough crit to not need flask
Yeah should be fine
should I be rtb on cd if I have stage 2 or lower?
rtb on stage 2 if you have loaded dice
I dont like to roll on stage 2 personally since I dont want to get sent back to 1
i believe is the rule
you rarely will be on stage 1 without LD soon
so roll on 1, roll on 2 with loaded dice
Yeah
got it thank you 😄
thanks!
Anyone got time to maybe take a quick look at my log ? Feels like im the worst ilv 280 outlaw there is 😣https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hM7NXQat9BRKgnVd?fight=9&type=damage-done
is vers flask a thing ? if I'm capped in crit like 1380 +
Yeah
what am I doing wrong I don't see any cyan marching ants or anything to show what stage my RTB is at besides the tiny buff in a sea of all buffs
Is there an addon or option in littlewigs so I can have an audible “interrupt” sound on certain key casts on trash pulls? CasualAddict has this somehow
Your melee dmg is a little low which could indicate you might not be utilizing ADR enough
Good ADR usage = higher melee dmg typically
its just one icon now
that changes images based on stage
youre already tracking it
My goal is to press the button and something that isn't difficult to look for shows on my screen either 1-2-3 so I know if I should press keep it rolling ya know?
yeah i dont know what im doing then.
It’s not difficult
They look pretty distinct
Thanks ill try and get better at melee. I just feel that my dps in keys atm, 14 and higher is about 98-110k, and it feels quite week compared to alot of other specs
That is equivalent to 1-2-3
right, but so on a pull like a raid pull there's sooo many buffs and they're all moving I can't find the dice buff.
the dice itself?
Yeah you should def be doing higher than that, I didnt have time to look look at it, but thats just something I noticed
Well thats why you put the tracker in the middle of your screen so you can easily identify it
CDM isnt the buffs in the top right
might sound like a dumb question but is it possible to overlap two builders into one macro ( blade rush and sinister strike ) ?
yeah the default icon has that
you can make it bigger
dont do that
how do I do that because when i drag it, it doesn't apply to the bars
also blade rush isnt a builder
Also that
u cant macro 2 gcd abilities together, it doesnt work like that
you might need a custom CDM addon to control buff size like that
u could cast sequence, but thats also very not ideal, it wouldnt do what im pretty sure u want it to do
yeah more like a prio
not a thing
but yeah I get that alr
Is it worth holding AR for a few sec if BTE is coming up soon or just send it
Hes saying he doesnt have the in game CDT at all
do u have cooldown manager checked in edit mode?
@gritty heron Go to options, gameplay enhancments, and enable Cooldown manager, and then check editmode for it
rip
just 18s!
is NA meta not accepting of outlaw life?
gotta list yourself ig
i ran one earlier and warrior trolled
thats nice of you
Is that ST or cleave
oh
forgemaster with the necro pack
yeah clave thats terrible
very bad LOL
Yeah they trolling
I was gonna say if it was PURE st then thats kinda where they are lol
yea
but cleave they should be top if not very close
Yeah thats a bit low lol
Sounds like they wernt the greatest player 😭
bro
last boss
he died to a green puddle
then got brez
insta took it
and died to another one
very classic
at the last boss in maisara caverns. do u get pulled by a specific totem towards it or is a random totem pulling you?- is there a way to know which totem pulls you ahead of time?
yes
!log
Why are you still playing acrobatic strikes
raiding with trickster is so sadge...
rng is soooooo bad
from 99 to 35 in parse coz bad rng
hey so i am new to outlaw i am learning it in keys and i feel my dps is bad is there a way for me to log review my self i dont want to post these demonicly bad logs lol
Also you should have 0% uptime of single rtb
Ah no we are good now in m+ sorry hahaaha
lol i am doing it bc it makes my brain go brrr lol
not worried about top dps or nufin
I mean you'd have to learn the spec and know what you can improve on personally which might be a little more difficult than just asking people who already know what they are doing, you're not gonna get judged for "Bad" play, youre new, outlaw is a hard spec
outlaw cranks
yeaaaaaaa ok
!log
whats your ilvl?
id say a good starting point while you learn the spec is making sure your crit / haste are at the bp's
I mean you're pretty low ilvl, In my experience Outlaw is quite a gear dependant class, Its going to feel very bad until you have the right stats and gear
You seem to have an idea with what you're doing, so the big bottleneck really could be gear
and yeah what Swamii said 😄
oh ok
Just cranked 2nd boss of skyreach 😄
dumb question bps
Is there a way I can change colour of combo points in BCDM? For example 6 and above?
How do you have the cooler blue “zzz”’s for rest in cities? I saw that on your UI before and it looks sick
That’s an Unhalted Unit Frames thing I think?
Ah I’m using SUF
Its this option in Elvui
get a wangbar
Just installed thank you
is there a specific reason why trickster dispatches at 6 compared to fatebound
how do I sim for keys? can i just Dslice? I don't see it in the pins
Crying in raid finder gaze 
hi guys, help me please to get some addon for interface like this
is there some reason i dont know about that causes dagger offhand to sim 1k higher than sword of exact stats with same embellishment only difference is weapon speed
energy regen
!oh
A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of
Zero In, and also slightly more
Instant Poison procs. Energy is not affected by offhand speed.
It is possible large ilvl differences can matter more than this bonus so use
Raidbots Top Gear when in doubt.
okay that makes sense, i was about to say thats something new for this expansion.
It used to be a smaller gap because zero in is new but it’s always been a thing
was so confused lol. i have 2x crafted and i got myth sword in my vault and couldnt find hardly any combinations that were an increase even fully upgrading to 289 they both have equal haste so its not like im dipping below a threshold or something. only thing i could find that was an increase was swapping embellishment from mainhand sword to offhand dagger then putting crit enchant on the myth sword and even then its only 200 dps lmao.
Anyone know or am I just stand here looking at a wall
or is there a command for how I should sim for keys
dungeon slice
ty
but it only works to compare ur own items. its not a valid representation of how much overall you are going to have after a dungeon
I just want to know what to craft
idc about the overall
That's a me being good at the game and rng not being ass
how was bros average cast so much better
do i need to press the button harder?
oh the crit he was criting
!dagger
A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of
Zero In, and also slightly more
Instant Poison procs. Energy is not affected by offhand speed.
It is possible large ilvl differences can matter more than this bonus so use
Raidbots Top Gear when in doubt.
more crit and better crit rng and prob jackpot active
You can use wangbar and then make the rest using cooldown manager /cdm as the fastest and easiest way
he had 30% more crits than you
well technically 60% more relatively
Will the Iris embelishment be always worse for aoe? I dont think it cleaves right?
I am looking to learn outalw from sub is there anything to be mindful of outside basic rotation?
what spec do we make Valeera in delves? cause she just dies every pull as tank?
healer
it knows ur too old for outlaw
yep thats better, thank you.
so it gives u a sub neck
why do they give me wrong choices like that!
Thats a 24h timeout next times a perma
nah but this spec is crazy or what
looks great when we chain wipe in i1
Its so good
also just got this what a day
rogue dnd dice set, bought it at barnes n nobles when I was with my gf
That's awesome
Huge
Actually, @cinder relic you might know, but do you know where I can view all the sides of a RtB die?
when we get BTE resets are we always building up to 6+ to use or just spamming it whatever it is at on reset?
6+
like the graphic?
I'm proud of myself
Gz!
what was your highest key?
17 cavern
yeah agreed, but it went real smooth* I can't complain
its more of a nightmare for tanks to route, so easy for people to but pull too
gz! which mount would you choose though?
I haven't picked yet, afaik I got all of them except the new recolors
im thinking between the red or green SL
yeah only the recolors left 😕
accidentally picked up a crystal that was magically in melee once
ive never felt such a high
Honestly dont like any of the mounts from past M+ seasons
Where are the recommended macros for outlaw?
!tricks
I need something to help me grasp this stuff, I really suck so far
just gotta keep practicing
its not an easy spec
but its fun as you get the hang of it
I was trying to write a macro to use bte when available, otherwise dispatch
cant do that
My damage on 5 dummys is only 175k sustained self buffed no pots, but the Sim says I should be like 230
No dps pot, just flask food and oil
what builder/finisher prio are you following
and at what cp are you finishing
you can record a video of yourself if youd like someone to review
usually people can spot little errors pretty quickly
you can castsequence the raid opener
I'll keep working on it and if I plateau I'll seek more help. But rn I'm practicing on +10-12 keys and I'm trash like 110 overall instead of 175k like dungeon slice
Wowhead is accurate?
K
@buoyant stratus GZ
@buoyant stratus GZ
on god
feeling like you have any control over the outcome of the fight

no kir the whole fight
double trouble gaming
:3
why am i losing my RtB buff on mythic vorasius?
after first consume it just falls off
Did you kill as outlaw
i had a 140k p2 pull 
good rolls good bte resets

lost on buff bar or actually lost
!tricks
can anyone help me break this down, ive been looking at it for like 25 minutes, how is this guy critting 800k on BTE
actually lost
our DH is losing devourer's bite too
the big adds get a damage amp
he crit a BTE on a big add
smallies die, they drop a pool
whatever is in that pool gains a stacking damage taken debuff
are there stat breakpoints on outlaw like there are on sub? does outlaw still want vers? :p
bro what the fuck is up with the catapults on alleria in mythic, trying to hit these clones, once i pass it once and i overshoot it
the thing wont light up easily again
haste crit
you need to approach 25% haste for energy, not exactly that number, most ppl have like 23%
23ish % haste
then just crit
Sim knows the haste you need though thistle tea being frontloaded affects it a little bit
you can get a little more for when thistle tea is exhausted
why is wowhead "bis" recommending haste vers ring?
when you have infinite crit >40% then vers starts to win
or at least be similar enough
oh so mastery is just some absolute dookie for outlaw?
it's worst stat but not crazy behind vers
do you guys use AR after Prep in opener or just build to BtE again and AR after first one runs out?
prep once ur bte doesnt reset
your second AR is going to be at the end of first one
ah ok
you dump cp and go into second AR
honestly i just send it if im at 2 cp or low cp and my AR is 1 sec left
esp if i need to fish for better roll
potential outcomes:
AR BTE prep
AR BTE BTE prep
AR BTE BTE BTE PREP
AR BTE BTE BTE BTE PREP
AR BTE BTE BTE BTE BTE PREP
AR BTE BTE BTE BTE BTE BTE PREP
AR BTE BTE BTE BTE BTE BTE BTE PREP
ok cool, ty
then BR into BTE
and AR basically on the condition i listed
low cp and AR about to run out
yes good tech in big pulls is to actually maximize BR reset time too
Would you macro alleria trinket to anything?
dont you hate when you are proccing/rtb/bf/br/ks/bte and then your PS proc runs out during that time
I cant track PS duration with my current cdm setup
when do u bf cancel macro on aa first boss
just need to have it up for when adds are active right
geared af
Guys is this trinket sim bait or actually good
probably decent but not better than plume or solar prism
I've got a champ plume right now and a myth prism






