33% crit rate is ABSURDLY low
#outlaw
desert tendon
it's back on the menu?
limpid sky
the humble instant poison on 3
glass mortar
we were only in top 3 for awhile
desert tendon
Is it the best dps by 4 times the 2nd best when it has good pulls or not at leat?
glass mortar
xd
fossil lintel
Guess you just gotta roll jackpot there, skill issue
timid portal
before variance in rolls now in crit
glass mortar
i mean
glass mortar
outlaw escaped variance in crit for a long time because we quickly got BtE to 100% crit rate with a RtB buff/like 80% without
glass mortar
last patch bozo
glass mortar
someone shows the sim of trickster on lives variance, cant remember who but its in here
fossil lintel
u lied to me
Pretty sure that's outdated
gaunt phoenix
not updated
glass mortar
highest in the game by a solid 10%
glass mortar
then ur the other 90% censi
🥰
what if we... kissed... in the adrenaline rush fart cloud 
willow narwhal
guys sorry if its a stupid question but do you use KS mainly when Bte is on cd?
gaunt phoenix
yea it is lower prio than ks
gaunt phoenix
nice
vivid vessel
ye idk
willow narwhal
yea it is lower prio than ks
ohh you mean its lower prio than bte?
gaunt phoenix
ohh you mean its lower prio than bte?
oh ye mb
near rock
it was 6.0
its 6.3 if you run thiefs vers over flickering steel 
vivid vessel
im just not pressing kir for 10 min straight
grim spear
!prekey
ornate heathBOT
- Use
Adrenaline Rush to activate 
Loaded Dice. - As Trickster, use
KS to activate 
Disorienting Strikes. - Do NOT use
RTB before the key, you will lose it. - Use
SND during the bubble once the key starts.
ancient cobalt
i was hittin the dummies guys and i know it said u can not kir at 2 and hold for higher but chat ima just hit it at 2 everytime
vivid vessel
this spec isnt real
ancient cobalt
thoughts?
willow narwhal
Zac do you never kir 2 rolls?
vivid vessel
i mean
its supposedly worth it
which i guess i trust
cause
i dont really go to 1s either
even doing that
near rock
just feels like shit
near rock
the variance in the spec is just frustrating af rn
willow narwhal
i understand
random stirrup
i remember when 5mins without pressing kir on tww outlaw was gigadoom rng
near rock
outlaw
ancient cobalt
ok see u there ❤️
near rock
yes sir
ancient cobalt
hell ya
vivid vessel
exile held me at gun point
and forced me to play outlaw on lura
im sorry mister raid leader
ancient cobalt
he also said they were gonna run 2 rogues in prog remember
craggy barn
holy
vivid vessel
i have no other choice
craggy barn
oh ur about to run that 21 back huh
ancient cobalt
i never had a mythic dagger to upgrade
random stirrup
i am giga useless on crystals but it doesnt matter!
ancient cobalt
i have a mythic otl weapon though B)
random stirrup
I will hit da boss
ancient cobalt
I will hit da boss
heavy shadow
so are we happy with the patch
glass mortar
foggy cove
how do you play dragons
grim spear
so like I said, the Outlaw designer completely doesn't understand how to design RNG.
foggy cove
cant seem to get a high parse
placid ocean
so are we happy with the patch
Yesn't
green star
Guys am I high or does the CDM seem small
grim spear
The mechanic of rolling a die to see what number you get and then moving forward that many steps is not only boring but also frustrating.
random stirrup
this is a giga monitor
green star
its only 1440 Idk why it actually looks so big LOL
jagged plover
so like I said, the Outlaw designer completely doesn't understand how to design ...
"outlaw designer" 
grim spear
Having RNG directly affect the result is foolish. Interesting RNG is RNG that affects the process.
random stirrup
I miss cto...
grim spear
What players want isn't rolling a die, it's being able to respond to the die they rolled
random stirrup
but also having new friends try outlaw and thinking rtb is complicated in new state
maybe it should be gone
jagged plover
i mean if rtb changes rules they bring back a lot of the complexity they tried to eliminate
grim spear
"outlaw designer" <:OMEGALUL:590194145495220255>
The cloud cover design is pretty good, so I'm just going to assume it exists.
foggy cove
its only 1440 Idk why it actually looks so big LOL
whys your icons squished too
nocturne fern
Am I just fully hamstringed trying to test outlaw with 2 daggers?
river wing
yes, you can't press most important buttons with a dagger MH
glass mortar
Am I just fully hamstringed trying to test outlaw with 2 daggers?
yes
worldly shale
nocturne fern
Sfine gives me something to look for. I’m in sub basically gear capped
worldly shale
glass mortar
oh they finally broke tww gems huh
i wonder how long ive been running around with this thing not working
sturdy phoenix
Hi guys just to be sure, i need to stand in the cloud or does the ennemies need to be in there too ?
craggy barn
just u
ancient cobalt
but also having new friends try outlaw and thinking rtb is complicated in new st...
i mean ya im p sure in like 1 or 2 xpacs outlaw wont exist
i just have a feelin its gonna be so different like no rolling
desert heart
!macros
heavy shadow
opener is a bit messy now, you need to open and stay still in the smoke right
which usually the speed of pulling etc and m+ means you're often moving no?
halcyon quiver
If it's a raid boss be positioned where you're going to tank the boss(es) to run the AR / SnD / RtB pre pull opener
heavy shadow
yeah in raid it's not too bad but m+ often tank is pulling and moving all the time
halcyon quiver
Yea I mean if you pop AR <2s prepull and smoke cloud yourself 20 yards away then you just cooked like 10s of the cloud
In M+ it's tricky, I would just use it once the tank is done pulling and has "settled"
heavy shadow
but then you're losing AR uptime 🙁
halcyon quiver
ask for routes see what they're doing but that's always been the hardest part of M+ - if it's a pug you have no clue what your tank is about to do. And you're trying to decide if you should CD or not
serene urchin
Yea I mean if you pop AR <2s prepull and smoke cloud yourself 20 yards away then...
u can refresh it by grappling in n out if u really want to min max it
glass mortar
all that matters is touching the cloud right before it expires
u can leave it for the full duration as long as ur tracking it
serene urchin
yeah exactly
glass mortar
shame u cant track it in any capacity in the baseline blizz ui
serene urchin
its not actually that bad
waxen scarab
moments before disaster:
gusty topaz
Fart cloud gaming
stone blaze
why do Outlaw sims take much longer than Assa or Sub?
untold dome
Do cloud covers stack? I imagine not, right?
buoyant cosmos
why do Outlaw sims take much longer than Assa or Sub?
simc doesn't like playing law
rugged steeple
Im a macro noob can someone give me a macro for ADR + Ranger Insignia when I press ADR?
stone blaze
lol
livid pewter
Do cloud covers stack? I imagine not, right?
nope, if u pop it twice the first dissapears
btw, isnt this a gain to pop adr - snd - prep - adr prekey? so u have 4x supercharger?
river wing
why do Outlaw sims take much longer than Assa or Sub?
probably all the CDR recalcs before "pressing buttons"
gaunt phoenix
Bc we have more rng
orchid forge
Would anyone be able to help me understand why my DPS is so low on outlaw?
im learning this spec but on single target im only doing 60 k when raidbot says i should be doing 110k
gaunt phoenix
The sim has to do 60,000 pulls or w.e
To get an accurate aggregate average
110k sounds like fully raidbuffed+consumables+lust
shadow trellis
If bte ready and im at full cp when AR comes up do i dispatch before AR or send AR anyway?
gaunt phoenix
Dispatch
shadow trellis
thanks!
clear tulip
sometimes you just get got
i held KIR all rekill of saladbar because i never rolled higher than two
fickle spear
Wait, is Latch's Crooked Hook and Kroluks Warbanner actually good for outlaw? They seem like such bait trinkets.
gaunt phoenix
The warbanner is good st but no aoe
The hook aoe might not hit everything in game
buoyant cosmos
Would anyone be able to help me understand why my DPS is so low on outlaw?
im le...
Getting a log will help people who do want to look. you can use !log to start a thread
placid ocean
Would anyone be able to help me understand why my DPS is so low on outlaw?
im le...
You and me both, bud
inner meadow
The sim has to do 60,000 pulls or w.e
Is there an option for amount of pulls?
im not very good with sims
gaunt phoenix
No, it will do the pulls it needs to do for an accurate result
No reason to change it
cedar bone
!log
trail steppe
so if ace procs and im at 5 combo points do i want to get to 6 or more before bte?
cinder relic
ye
cinder relic
@gaunt phoenix cloud cover bug is fixed
trail steppe
priority says to only use those stacks if at 3 or less
cinder relic
No longer costs energy
trail steppe
oh yeah thanks, i misread the priority. 5 OR fewer. my b
mint lily
No longer costs energy
it's costing me energy in outlaw but not sub
dim parrot
Guys what do
strong kindle
Hey guys Sub here just dropped in to say I'm very happy they fixed Cloud Cover
strong kindle
I’m at work but wanna be at home playing my outlaw rogue
Start violently coughing
mint lily
oh
vivid vessel
it doesnt give you the 50
mint lily
ok so im just giga dumb
mint lily
got it
vivid vessel
happens to the bests
mint lily
and even the supremely mediocre apparently
cinder relic
ok so im just giga dumb
yes
tender rapids
@keen belfry who is that feral 
gaunt phoenix
<@921608341048930304> cloud cover bug is fixed
hot
errant fractal
soo I'm guessing the rotation part of #outlaw-faq isn't updated at all?
tender rapids
gaunt phoenix
soo I'm guessing the rotation part of <#856897810536071208> isn't updated at all...
what makes you think that?
errant fractal
what makes you think that?
maybe I'm blind but there is no mention of KS
gaunt phoenix
you are blind !
arctic merlin
so was the poor dmg a bug or was it me not knowing how to play
keen belfry
i think i had the lowest luck ever in that one pull taht had us thinking outlaw was bugged
keen belfry
yuh
arctic merlin
and trickster is 19% ahead in aoe?
im certain it didn't feel like a 19% dmg increase
gaunt phoenix
it's not that far ahead
arctic merlin
10%?
gaunt phoenix
the crit damage part of fazed is being reversed about by blade flurry
gaunt phoenix
so trickster with prep remains better?
yes, but idk by how much yet
keen belfry
can u explain that i dont understand what it means
lucid sparrow
same
ashen void
rotund depot
they fixed blades distract thing yall are next surely
ashen void
already fixt <3
brisk tusk
I assume he means bf damage is acting as if the hit target was not fazed
gaunt phoenix
normally your crits deal base dmg * 2
which 3 fazed they are dmg * 3.5
but blade flurry calculation will still treat it like dmg * 2
brisk tusk
When it comes to crit damage
rotund depot
already fixt <3
was still costing energy like 3mins ago
lucid sparrow
normally your crits deal base `dmg * 2`
which 3 fazed they are `dmg * 3.5`
but...
pretty big bug ?
tf
gaunt phoenix
i don't think it's a bug per se
ashen void
just how bf work ya?
gaunt phoenix
a quirk of targeted modifiers that wasnt clarified in simc
brisk tusk
If the target that BF is hitting is fazed does it increase crit damage?
brisk tusk
Weirdge
arctic merlin
When is bf getting reworked
errant fractal
the crit damage part of fazed is being reversed about by blade flurry
what now
snow totem
Was that accounted for in the initial sims
brisk tusk
Blizzard and consistency must be mortal enemies cause i feel like when it comes to any sort of %cleave mechanic on single target abilities its a coin flip on whether damage modifiers apply to cleave damage as well or not
snow totem
Fair
gaunt phoenix
i don't think it's infinite damage loss
but ye, trickster is not quite 13% ahead in aoe
Idk what it really is yet
buoyant cosmos
When is bf getting reworked
they'd rather delete outlaw than rework bf
buoyant cosmos
Idk what it really is yet
Did awangs panic post key you into the BF thing? Or you knew about it already
glass breach
It could happen. Wouldn't be the first time they deleted a rogue spec
cinder relic
Why would they rework BF
ashen void
or delete outlaw rogue 
dim parrot
We find it out if in aoe we like hitting BF at 5+ or nah
gaunt phoenix
Did awangs panic post key you into the BF thing? Or you knew about it already
No, it was zac
odd marlin
!prekey
ornate heathBOT
- Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
- As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
- Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
- Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.
errant fractal
!stats
ornate heathBOT
Outlaw's stat prio is generally Crit > Haste* > Vers >= Mastery.
- You need ~21-23% haste for energy, this has priority over crit. That's the haste on your stat page after talents/buffs/flask.
- Crit is then your best stat until you approach ~40%, from there random vers or mastery pieces will be similar.
- You have to use
Raidbots Top Gear to determine the exact combination of pieces to use.
mystic berry
Idk what it really is yet
did we get placebo'd?
strong cargo
did we get placebo'd?
do you feel like outlaw's place in logs can be placebo ? 😄
mystic berry
mandela effect
elder sonnet
wait im out of loop, cloud damage was bugged?
near rock
wait im out of loop, cloud damage was bugged?
solo is referring to specifically blade flurry during cloud extra fazed stacks
which again he doesn't think is a bug, but rather a simc issue
gaunt phoenix
when i have the complete information, i will pin it as usual
clear zephyr
Is there a better way to keep track of my buffs? Blade Flurry, Roll the bones, AR, and so on...?
gaunt phoenix
just the cooldown manager
frank finch
lmao
turbid robin
xD
foggy cove
sullen walrus
+17 WS, it's good?
gaunt phoenix
slim hare
guy doesn't even have adblock
thats not guy x)
sullen walrus
+17 mc 🙁
glass breach
Ethical non-patreon supporter
sullen walrus
i love this apm playstyle 🙂
WE'RE META!
zac
my dps looks like ur in these keys
impossible
keen belfry
u were playing dk earlier idk bro
keen belfry
do they know how to play feral/arms
sullen walrus
sullen walrus
@dense forge u are outlaw main rn?
dense forge
<@229386660326932481> u are outlaw main rn?
im aiming rank 1 rio in the world , so i do anything
keen belfry
we need someone to match farover and biz
for some reason no one does their dmg
or even close
dense forge
you havent seen crims then
keen belfry
i believe
daring yoke
Bro everyone just make tier list and put outlaw s+
will this make us getting invited to keys or nerfed by blizz
clear tulip
feels so bad when you get a pull like this which ends up being the kill
dim parrot
Or they nerf dev aug unholy
hollow temple
whats wrong with smoke tho?
vivid vessel
smokege
strong cargo
I have my /fart macro it's all fixed
wooden ember
Is the AR bug cost fixed or just the sub one?
strong cargo
It is fixed
lone surge
is there a way we can make opportunity buff easier to see or even change the icon
near osprey
how do yall sim if like you dont save bte for ar or like bf at max combo points or finishing at 5 cps?
cinder relic
wdym
lethal relic
whats wrong with smoke tho?
It's too dense and can sometimes hide mechanics that need to be dodged
near osprey
wdym
i mean like if i wanted to sim something specific from the rotation like dispatching at 5 instead of 6
leaden sonnet
You edit the code (APL) until you get the robot to do what you want. But its not that straightforward to do
near osprey
You edit the code (APL) until you get the robot to do what you want. But its not...
damn okay
you wouldnt happen to know what the dps loss is for finishing at 5 right? like just 5 only if that was possible
nocturne tinsel
trim osprey
sand berry
I rolled a natty jackpot with kir up today hope everyone else is having a nice day
clear tulip
rolled 2 6 times in a row on vanguard 🙂
last night on wipes i had a pull with 40% jackpot but everyone decided to eat shields and hammers rip
vivid vessel
i played normal taletns
errant fractal
That I do not
vivid vessel
aoe talents
errant fractal
lime lake
why is zac hiding the full st tech
rich moon
guys, we got airborne irritant back and it makes me so happy
desert tendon
why is that playing sub offstream?
random terrace
!prekey
ornate heathBOT
- Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
- As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
- Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
- Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.
inner meadow
😭
vivid vessel
i mean does it
there is no assa players
so
you will never know
only wox has done a pit
wide coral
got ring and bracer from voidcores in pit, GG
inner meadow
from my experience atleast i feel like it does more
buoyant cosmos
from my experience atleast i feel like it does more
Have you ever had a tank go to Ick first?
It's fried imo
summer nimbus
for the dragon guys on pit do they have like dr at all while they are mounted. should we prio the rider or the drag
inner meadow
Have you ever had a tank go to Ick first?
yea i have
but only in lower keys
with pugs
i struggle with outlaw on that fight
buoyant cosmos
for the dragon guys on pit do they have like dr at all while they are mounted. s...
I think it's just two dudes
buoyant cosmos
i struggle with outlaw on that fight
Yeah it's annoying for the spec
Hook makes getting to each add nice
And standing still with evasion keeps the puddles from going everywhere
static crescent
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
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summer nimbus
what addon do people use to see all the enemy casts on the screen?
cloud prism
is airborne irritant not working? blind still only hits one thing for me
inner meadow
is airborne irritant not working? blind still only hits one thing for me
are you using it on the affix balls?
inner meadow
it used to be that u have to use blind on an add that's standing on the affix
it's really aids to use sometimes
but if u use blind on a mob ontop of the affix it works
cloud prism
thats dumb
stuck totem
the smoke cloud is buns with a pug tank...the last run the tank moved the mob(s) out of the cloud about 95% of time...seemingly bc he thought it was a debuff 😐
inner meadow
gotta type a cheeky "cloud is good, cloud is friendly 👍🏼"
stuck totem
i tried, but it didnt seem to sink in
inner meadow
just dip into it last 5 sec
and it's usually okay
last 5 sec of adr*
but yea it's aids with some tanks
they aren't used to it yet
prisma lantern
gotta type a cheeky "cloud is good, cloud is friendly 👍🏼"
"it's a DR." (For me and not for you, but still a DR lol)
"Stand in it."
nova sinew
would it be worth it to have crit flask for first pull in a dungeon and then swap to haste after your teas are gone
fathom bramble
I mean any pull with lust crit flask would be better right
but it's gold and is that really worth it idk
nova sinew
yeah maybe on tournament realm or something
can you change flask in combat?
i thought that last expac they cut that out because of people going chaos just for the pot and swapping back
maybe im misremembering
nova sinew
LOL
random stirrup
i remember watching in tgp tww1 they had reminders outside of combat to swap
maybe they didnt know the ca tech
gaunt phoenix
idk my overalls are like ~16% higher
vivid vessel
whatdehelly !
gaunt phoenix
i run with the same ppl
vivid vessel
me too i think
gaunt phoenix
vivid vessel
i lied because
i had a few runs i was super unlucky
idk
i feel like
there is huge variance
in between runs
gaunt phoenix
i feel it
vivid vessel
and sometimes its just gege
gaunt phoenix
feels like you can get behind and lose momentum
and you cant recover until the next Prep
or good natty roll
quiet ore
in between runs
I did 2 12 minute runs of beating on the target dummy. One time I averaged only 60k dps, the other I averaged 90k.
gaunt phoenix
quiet ore
spoiler alert: the first time I got only 2 buff perma and the second time I chained jackpots
vivid vessel
i mean i believe it
i did a skyreach earlier
in 10 min i pressed kir once
cause i rolled 2s for 10 min
so like
that whole 10 min of the run
is just
dusty magnet
The worse is when you dont havw adrenaline rush that carries over and you gotta roll and you get single buff
vivid vessel
complelte low roll the whole time idk
nova sinew
had a lura pull where i got nothing but 2s except for 2 rolls of 3
actually put me on tilt for the rest of that night
vivid vessel
ye sleight
plain whale
If Ace procs and you're at 5 cps, do you build or just keep sending it?
vivid vessel
@craggy barn
this was over 10 min
middle of a key
trash + 2 bosses
idk
i just rolled and rolled and rolled
i could never escape
craggy barn
oof
vivid vessel
actually that was over 3 bosses even
- trash in between
so during this 10 min period im bottom boss dps
craggy barn
shoulda kir anyways to reset the rng
vivid vessel
as outlaw
i mean
im not really rolling 1s either tho
so
like in this extremely unlucky period
where i didnt kir
i still got 1s only 11% of the time
definitly feels worth it to never kir 2s
cause like
even super low rolling
you can chain 2s
quiet ore
<@118165766741819400>
the dice want what the dice want
pliant wave
@vivid vessel So was that Fazed bug we were arguing about earlier actually real, or was it nothing?
fathom bramble
that is the unfortunately expected result from a crit damage taken modifier
vivid vessel
also its not that big
fathom bramble
just because of how BF handles damage taken mods
final pagoda
man I swear with this new build I am low rolling so much
idk what zac is on
how can he not kir for 10 mins
daring yoke
feels like the most rng its ever been
this is so true. even more with trickster fak
quiet ore
feels like the most rng its ever been
the rng ub resets and double stacks are extra rng spice on the pie
plain whale
Can you actually pre AR now with the smokebomb shit like it says in the opener guide?
quiet ore
but you can legit ks -> coup -> ps -> coup at random
plain whale
Also, do you send 5cp BTE"s if ACE procs
final pagoda
so zac does it mean ur r1 bc ur the luckiest outlaw?
vivid vessel
yuh
final pagoda
Can you actually pre AR now with the smokebomb shit like it says in the opener g...
pre key?
final pagoda
Also, do you send 5cp BTE"s if ACE procs
no, 6+ finishers with trickster build
keen belfry
<@118165766741819400>
i think u have to kir 2 buff more
vivid vessel
what for
keen belfry
to avoid that bs
vivid vessel
im not dropping 2 buffs
avoid what
im still at 90% 2 buff uptime in that period
so whats the point
why should i kir them
keen belfry
10% 1 buff uptime makes u fart pee
vivid vessel
if this is litteraly the worse case scernario
this is litteraly worse case scenario
im not gonna kir 2s
vivid vessel
you are done for
final pagoda
zac how many secs on avg do u have fartcloud up?
urban oyster
how do i reliably reset bosses as outlaw? having a hard time even have tricks clicked off
vivid vessel
most of the times
final pagoda
20s?
buoyant cosmos
this is a crazy statement
vivid vessel
its pretty rare i have to go out of cloud
and if i do i go out late
and more rarely i have to grpaple back in
final pagoda
u ss - ss - ks while tank group up everytime?
buoyant cosmos
Are you bothering with dropping it on the edge of the pack?
Or just send it
I tried it for a few keys but it's huge so I stopped
vivid vessel
nah idc
i told my people to reduce their particle density to low
i dont even see the cloud
with that setting
buoyant cosmos
insane ability
echo tapir
wow they fixed the 30 energy thing
echo tapir
im suprised
vivid vessel
so they aknowledge its garbage
buoyant cosmos
real shit?
vivid vessel
but its ok cuase now its only garbage for us ?
final pagoda
what does it mean? nobody else sees it?
echo tapir
what does it mean? nobody else sees it?
yeah thats exactly what it means?
keen belfry
this is how u maintain uptime @final pagoda
vivid vessel
did you see
vivid vessel
after you get back to the pack
formal thunder
vivid vessel
it refresh once again
formal thunder
no more grieving teammates
formal thunder
only grieving yourself now
final pagoda
this is how u maintain uptime <@186304877289406464>
but u need to have retractable hook
which we dont play anymore
vivid vessel
wh at
echo tapir
he used rush
final pagoda
oh okay
gaunt phoenix
you get 2 charge of grapple by default
final pagoda
yep but no way I always have 2 charges for every fartcloud
it never happens for me
not sure if I should keep hook only for those situations
gaunt phoenix
i dont think u need it for every cloud
vivid vessel
graplpe is like 2 finisher cooldown
wdym
its always off cooldown
are you perma grappling or what
final pagoda
2 charges!?
final pagoda
ur making me think I probably do
wooden escarp
u guys receive the rolls back?
keen belfry
weird no ?
oh yeah interesting
vivid vessel
wonder what happened there !
gaunt phoenix
lol
nova sinew
what is the range on ar pulling
nova sinew
! doesnt it pull in trickster
gaunt phoenix
ye
vivid vessel
does ar still throw coins even
gaunt phoenix
ye
vivid vessel
huge !
nova sinew
with that
vivid vessel
that means you wanted to kill boss no
urban oyster
!prepull
keen belfry
nah but llike i cba no?
nova sinew
with prepull
vivid vessel
noob !
nova sinew
keen belfry
like u dont need to pracitce that bbro
keen belfry
noob
vivid vessel
trinekt bound to adr
nova sinew
its not that bad
nova sinew
because
nova sinew
sometimes i wanna hold it al il bit
vivid vessel
someone tell him
nova sinew
but like
keen belfry
@nova sinew noah fence, you might be a noob after this information cam eout
nova sinew
WTF
vivid vessel
noah fence but ytou should feel offended
final pagoda
can someone confirm u cant use debuff conditions on WA anymore? if so, how can I condition to show something if I have a debuff by spell id?
nova sinew
it means you wanna do damage
vivid vessel
adr is 30s cd tho
vivid vessel
i would not hold adr for 30s
nova sinew
i just hit the adr button
keen belfry
can someone confirm u cant use debuff conditions on WA anymore? if so, how can I...
confrimg it rn
nova sinew
for the trinket
vivid vessel
i would hold trinket for 30s tho
keen belfry
u cant
vivid vessel
potentially
keen belfry
guys
nova sinew
look man
keen belfry
messerkneckt when he has to press a trinket on cd:
Mmmm i dont hink i will lets just bind it to AR instead
nova sinew
i just started playing this thing with this t rinket like a week ago
final pagoda
also zac why do u hold prepot for 10s after first key pull?
final pagoda
I thought it was some crazy tech
vivid vessel
that tracked my pot thing
no its not
its cause i prepot
before key
so im not supposed to override it insta right
final pagoda
yep
vivid vessel
except im not tracking the buff
cause
idk
wahtever
no weak aua
its cringe
so then i forget to press pot again
final pagoda
there is no way u cant make a WA that shows ur prepot buff for god sake
vivid vessel
soetimes
gaunt phoenix
everything zac ever does gets questioned
vivid vessel
i mean you can make a weak aura
final pagoda
it was the same for jpc when he was r1
vivid vessel
i just havent made one
final pagoda
how would you make one if u cant use the conditions anymore?
I see u make custom events but not sure how they work
vivid vessel
items cds is not secret
and you can start a timer on a cast
thats also allowed
i just cba
!
keen belfry
vivid vessel
like the only time i need to see
my pot buff duration
is for prekey
xdd
so i havent cared enough for now
to fix my ui
just for that
final pagoda
I just want a better way to see debuffs
keen belfry
I just want a better way to see debuffs
gl lil bro
final pagoda
and it seems I need to take some lua classes to do that
vivid vessel
nah
keen belfry
u need to just put ur debuff in ur screen middle of screen
final pagoda
u need to just put ur debuff in ur screen middle of screen
yep
rocky kiln
!prekey
ornate heathBOT
- Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
- As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
- Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
- Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.
plain whale
!macros
drowsy void
wild bobcat
whats shortly in this instance
vivid vessel
adr cd is 30s
in like
in game time
so you can basically only prep after you pressed adr really
and it will be fine
most of the times in keys its kinda what you will end up doing anywya
vivid vessel
like going into a pack prep will naturally line up with adr
cause of short downtime etc
and holding adr a bit at end of pack
or prep at end of pack
so you just end up doing adr prep adr
urban oyster
does PS have a projectile? asking to see if there is a way to reset bosses as outlaw
fathom bramble
I have had bosses reset when I pulled them with blade rush too
your mileage may vary
final pagoda
anyone has a bug where u cant hear sounds EFFECTS only anymore?
final pagoda
vibecoded mmorpg
vivid vessel
lots of sounds dont go off sometimes
carmine flint
pliant wave
Should we just accept the bug where the amped crit damage doesn’t properly carry over through BF as intended behavior, or is there still a chance it gets fixed?
plain whale
Is there a way to enable all audio cues like BTE resets without all the other audio clutter?
vivid vessel
Should we just accept the bug where the amped crit damage doesn’t properly carry...
dont think this can really be fixed the way bf and all bf type effect works
like if you have a damage amp
on target
it wont cleave
this is the same idea
but idk
fathom bramble
they could flag BF crits as crits
and it would fix this specific interaction
atonement does this for the same kind of reason
vivid vessel
i mean they prolly would have to recode bf somehwat tho right
cause it doesnt crit at all
fathom bramble
atonement seems to do it by having 2 different atonements I think
1 that triggers on crits and 1 on norms
vivid vessel
i see
fathom bramble
could be wrong
it definitely require some kind of coding
since you need it to count as a crit without actually dealing double damage
a fun and cursed alternative is to make BF able to crit and just copy pre-crit damage
which is obviously also coding
fathom bramble
the most cursed alternative lol
formal thunder
ball is in your court blizzard
@blizzard
what the helly
no blizzard in this channel?
outlaw is dead
proper dock
I was playing Outlaw in the new Ritual Site on Tier 5 and I was trying to leave the 4 Obelisks up but cannot kill the boss that spawns before the final boss without destroying the 3 Obelisks that are buffing it. I’m 269 ilvl and feel that I’m a moderately decent player but he absolutely destroys me. Did they screw Outlaw rogue that bad or am I just bads?
cinder relic
shits still costing 30 energy what da helly
Bro
AR gives u max energy
Its not costing energy
craggy barn
i know i realized a bit ago lol
doesnt matter anyways since i wont get invited to keys as law 🙁
fossil lintel
Of course you can be invited, you just need to have timed it 2 key levels higher
outer meteor
fossil lintel
if only thye knew marvin and zomb
If they knew me they would definitely not invite outlaws 😂
foggy cove
is lura a bad boss for us
fossil lintel
How do you guys deal with the second boss of MC?
Do you move to guide the ghost? I find that ranged DPS is lazy and just expect me to do it
fossil lintel
What is the tank supposed to do there?
errant fractal
Position
fossil lintel
Oh, so like move the boss across so the adds meet without people moving?
fossil lintel
I literally have never seen a tank do that
keen belfry
yeah bad tanks
fossil lintel
I had a DK tank grip one add onto another which was nice
But other than that
Also you can cloak and run into the add
keen belfry
mhm but that leaves someone with extra
fossil lintel
I thought about doing that to a devourer who literally kited the wrong way instead of towards my add
Made me move all the way out
steel oxide
got my refunded voidcores
mellow thicket
Did you get to keep the previous loot?
steel oxide
yea they said that tho
fossil lintel
You keep the loot but it's not removed from the pool of whatever you rolled on
tender wedge
@keen belfry soz if you've been bombarded with this, but my wangbar has gone missing since the patch, any fixes in the works?
by toggling energy bar on and off i can make the CPs appear at least 🙃
tender wedge
at first i figured i'd just go back to senseis but man that CP delay is driving me nuts 😂
tender wedge
i have it, lets see
tender wedge
fiddling with the anchors does make the CPs come back but no energy bar
but i need to do that on every reload
steel oxide
right when you log in it shows in chat x receives x2 voidcore
fossil lintel
I need to pug m chim ._.
craggy barn
fossil lintel
It was never gone (except S3)
wintry solar
noble tartan
Hi is there a visualization of all stages Rolls?
split olive
is there something similar to wowanalyzer people use to figure out areas of improvement in play for outlaw? I haven't touched the spec in a while as I've been doing assa for the last two expansions, but I want to help a bro who is on the struggle bus
astral wind
Hi is there a visualization of all stages Rolls?
Yes, 1 dice for 1, 2 dice for 2, 3 dice for 3, big golden dice for 4
keen belfry
wil llook at this tomorrow
keen belfry
try changing the font or texture
zenith root
is there a way to track between the eyes reset or I just have to react to it?
fossil lintel
You can track the apex one by tracking how many bullets you have stored
But not ace ones
zenith root
Is that grave digger?
zenith root
Is that grave digger?
So I do have to react to this one
plain ravine
Yeah, i believe the buff is called palmed bullets?
plain ravine
The random proc resets are literally random, you just react. It turns yellow and gives you combo points so it's pretty obvious
tender wedge
try changing the font or texture
no dice. not a major 🙂
zenith root
OKay that makes sense, thnank you
You yall mainly just track, grave digger and roll the bones.?
plain ravine
I only track roll the bones and coins if fatebound, smoke cloud if trickster. Everything else is generally just reaction gaming
zenith root
That makes things easier, seems like theres a bunch of things I could try to track, but not worth the brain power
craggy barn
w roll
dusty blaze
Is there a meekaura to track smoke?
simple orchid
I've such a hard time tracking bf buff in m+, i always get lost in rotation and in proc. Any tips about that? I put a sound when buff is gone in ayije CDM but still it means sometimes buff is not up
rugged pulsar
I've such a hard time tracking bf buff in m+, i always get lost in rotation and ...
I use Better cooldown manager and I have a bar on my screen that says how much longer I have the buff up. The bar helps me visualize it better than just a number and icon
simple orchid
I use Better cooldown manager and I have a bar on my screen that says how much l...
Yeah I tried the bar but it's in the same place as feint, shadow cloack and sprint, it gets blurry when i used def cd 😂
quiet ore
I've such a hard time tracking bf buff in m+, i always get lost in rotation and ...
Make it the only thing you use a bar for, move the bar to under your character so it's top of mind
Least that's what I do
Oh, also a sad cowbell sound effect when it falls off
rugged pulsar
Yeah I have my defs in my utility bar and just use the bars for important buffs like AR, the new smoke, RtB, and BF
Keeps each specific type of ability separate from the other
buoyant cosmos
is there something similar to wowanalyzer people use to figure out areas of impr...
For the most part people just make log threads and someone might chime in
buoyant cosmos
w roll
twins
got mine last night
Did anyone else notice their RTB buffs going missing from the default cooldown tracker mid pull tonight? nvm it's in the pins
frail veldt
~~Did anyone else notice their RTB buffs going missing from the default cooldown...
There's a pin for this
It's a bug yeah
buoyant cosmos
There's a pin for this
Yeah I just read it
I thought it might be in there
what isn't in the pins atp
tender wedge
Make it the only thing you use a bar for, move the bar to under your character s...
Funny, that’s exactly what I did too, I was losing it amongst everything else and making it the only bar solved it
buoyant cosmos
It's a bug yeah
Have you been keeping track of your BTE uptime in logs?
Dunno if it's something I should be using to check myself against other people
Oh nvm, you're down here in socal rn
drowsy karma
Day 3 of asking if they hot fixed the weird energy bug?
inland meteor
Day 3 of asking if they hot fixed the weird energy bug?
drowsy karma
foggy cove
no more team wide fart cloud
pearl topaz
!prekey
ornate heathBOT
- Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
- As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
- Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
- Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.
craggy barn
get better eyes
balmy topaz
Also, do we get 2 of these rerolls a week
craggy barn
just see through al the smoke ez
balmy topaz
Or is it 1 a week?
craggy barn
2 tokens a week
balmy topaz
That’s insane for alts no?
bronze badge
Can we use a loot bonus from a heroic raid that we've already completed and that we can no longer loot?
foggy cove
oh guh did they give everyone bonus rolls back regardless of dupes?
dim parrot
Good runs @summer nimbus
summer nimbus
They didnt believe smh
bronze badge
oh guh did they give everyone bonus rolls back regardless of dupes?
not for everyone , just if you use first days mayb
i drop 2 bis saron with , and i have 2 new free
foggy cove
not for everyone , just if you use first days mayb
just killed a raid boss and realized i just have 2 more now even though i know i spent them
ig its time to run up pos
harsh forge
bros it feels like the rng is worse now
craggy barn
man im so washed
craggy barn
doing very meh damage in these 17s
harsh forge
the rng is so good
foggy cove
how do you get into a 17
foggy cove
i cant even get into a 12 :(
craggy barn
what io
foggy cove
2744
craggy barn
its pretty fucked if ur slow pusher
foggy cove
++11 or +11 on everything
craggy barn
competing against everyone
yea ur just competing against people like me who queue 12s for crests/rerolls
foggy cove
idk i sat applying for like 20m a little ago and just gave up
craggy barn
lfg applications get to like 100s of people at those key levels
so
very wide range of io as well
foggy cove
🥀
craggy barn
best u can do is just run ur own key
foggy cove
im assuming once ur atleast like +2 above whawtever ur applying for its usually an easier time at 12 and above
craggy barn
yes, just the higher io u have the easier it is
bc peopel just grab the highest ios that apply at those low keys
livid sand
How are we performing with one button rotation?🤣
livid sand
Im too bad to play outlaw… must stay sub i think
livid sand
I did like 80k in a +12… usually with sub its 150k overall🤣
foggy cove
is it worth gambling for an umbral plume or just go straight to filling out gear in +10 pos
craggy barn
pos