#outlaw
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If we AR in prepull, we have to ensure that we are sitting in the cloud after the boss is pulled?
I think the ar after prep matters more?
just how ive been playing
Ar on pull not prepull now is more or less the idea
Just make sure the cloud from the first one is playable
Yeah near the boss ideally
yo @vivid vessel link ur playlist plsss
Awesome. Ive been doing on pull or 2 seconds before pull if prepull fart can be on boss
Has anyone figured out how to adjust fart animation or opacity? Any addons or graphics fuckery that i can make fart less visible for me?
do you guys channel killing spree to full or do you stop it early?
Cancel it if you are going to overcap energy
ty
cancelaura macro works?
what do you guys think, is outlaw going to be the best rogue spec
where is the best place to use the voidcore?
ya it has been the best rogue spec
ive been taking a stab at it and its been pretty fun
If we dont. Big loss?
like 0.3% or smthing
To not use it at all until blizz fixes them
Just cast any spell
You guys are overthinking this
Which they at least said they’re investigating so will only take a few more days
But like if you get an Ace proc and you get 5CP at stage 2+ do you just SS or PS ?
SS unless at 6 opp stacks
That jsut feels so bad
ty for letting me know, i will hold on to them.
doing fuckall damage feels worse
oh thats rough
before crit was kinda even with mastery for sub no ?
now they're just full sending crit
after paying their haste tax
its bc of the crit dmg
Like
Sub was haste until cap
then mastery = crit
now its crit => mastery
Its like the same thing
it went from 18 18 to like 20 19 or smthing
how broke fellas look at you when they order wings at the table
(im reading the wowhead article and this pic of ion is very funny)
so bros mad cause he didnt collect rings and neck
That crit recraft thing is the classic 'ill recraft my gear instead of learning rotation' players
@vivid vessel our first time hitting second egg it died
i got the blessed actual 0 parse
0 crits
worst burn of the night

another dumb question, how exactly does the 1 hour tricks work, I have the talent but i put it on them and its just a 30s buff lol
u ahve to attack first
You gotta activate it
ok so you press the ability on them, then once you attack it applies it?.. and lasts an hour
Yeah
checking to make sure finisher prio is BTE>Coupe>KS>Dis
ICE MAN ICE MAN
How's the 13% buff feeling outlawers? Is that just from the ace talent change?
yea 13% is a big numba
is this the intended paladins experience
yes
I wanna come back to the outlaw side but I'm too invested into sub >_<
you prolly need extra haste on vanguard
@gaunt phoenix
i went and simmed long dungeon
cause i was like
this cant be right !
turns out you can play 28% haste
with flickering thingy
and its withing margin !
doesnt more haste make u want flickering thingy less tho
idk lol
i mean if its margin who cares
this profile wants it tho
with 28% haste
so
imma do it
at least i get less cancer
from having 0 energy
For bladefurry do you need to be facing the direction of the adds for them to be cleaves or if you have BF active can it also hit adds that are behind you while your main target is infront of you?
oh really, thats nice to know - how big is the circle is there a radius?
BF is based off you not the target and radiates in a circle from ur character
uhhh 8 yards i believe
mayb 10?
idk theyve messed with it
yea, i guess 5 minute sim starting with max tea is not the full picture
over the years and its not like i can measure
yee
cause i was doing a windrunner
went fine the first like
20% of dungeon
then i have no tea left
and for straight up 5 min
im udner 50 energy
idk
it's so fucking stupid
🙂
thanks i always thought it was like infront of you, because when watching some replays ive always wondered
how much of that can be contributed to the bug tho zac
tea needs to recover like an order of magnitude faster out of combat
or something
the bullshit -30 energy on rush
nah
that cant work
we perma chain
0 downtime
idk
its just this charge system
that is so bad
why is it on charge
tea is just dogshit design more news at 11
just give another vigor or smth
we took a active ability that was boring and not fully fleshed out and turned it into vigor 2.0 but for some reason its on a frontloaded charge system that fails to keep up with sustain combat
perfectly designed ability for 5m patchwerk bosses tho!
thats what we design the game for now a day i think so
its fine to tune a specs entire resource budget around it
there should be a 2 node with 2 vials, one for hp one for energy
this may not be an ideal setup
💀
dude ima be honest i dont give a gaf about paladins
Any good myth trinkets to bonus roll besides solarflare? I don’t mythic raid
gays
guidon oh hell nawww
look my goated mainhand though
You think H gays should be the fill? Fawk
I think there is some actual value in tea being for when energy is low though
and it needs charges in order to do that
what about this
what if prep just refunded all of tea
wait


I didn't bind or press or cdm track KS 💀
its ok its only worth like 1% dps anyway
what if prep worked on kir rtb and tea
cause why not
💅
Tea now restores 150, and increases max energy by 50 passively.
Tea now slowly decays or quickly regenerates to 1 while out of combat.
Back to noob room for you

you now start with 1 tea charge in all content to remove upfront problems

and then add more constant value to it for all content
Can someone name another game/anything where energy works in a way that isnt starved
yea i mean thatd be the way to do it reduce the frontload buff the recoup rate
ye
amybe
idk of anything that works like that tho
prolly not even possible in current wow game
they dont have the tech for that
yeah nothing that is like a spell CD
well it would require giving rogue changes and then responding to feedback or testing and iterating on those changes
but other stuff decays out of combat or recovers faster out of combat
we havent gotten a design cycle like that since TWW alpha

i mean theres one simple trick to make out of combat work easily
as someone that handles feedback in another industry
its so hard finding people to trust who arent full f shit
98% of the tickets are people saying something stupid
new talent “special” tea it makes u drop a brown puddle on the floor when u press it like poison bomb tickin damage
yall ever use that chinese tea to clean ya gut
could prolly rework it into a buff thing at this point
instead of a weird cd
that act weirdly
just make Sanguine vial also generate half a tea charge
slapping an on kill thing on tea is probably the easiest thing to do
like I really like the decay/generate to 1 and buff tea thing, but it's not realistically ever going to be reworked into that kind of complicated talent
i find myself pausing just to fucking get energy back
and this thing will start ticking
underrated


of course there is always the secret option to make energy less shit in keys
revert BF cost increase
Do we have any raid cleave build? 😭
!ui
Resources:
ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
Misc:
Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent
all these other fixes are cool, but really if BF didn't cost infinit then you would be naturally saving tea for bosses most of the time
and not running out nearly as easily
its just the aoe build
this shit wont stop, im down to 3 addons rofl
i have it too
but it doesnt affect anything?
bugsack just grabs it
idk
i guess u have 192 listed errors
Its an addon trying to pull blizzard data that it cant grab anymore
from 12 > 12.0.5
this is base ui bro
sheesh guy, that was rough
For Trickster, are there minimum combo point target we ewant to be shooting for? BtE is 6 i think? Dispatch 5? Killing Spree 5?
BUILD TO 6
that's what i thought but only a few of us are getting in raid
some community response on bnet solution is MOVE ALL YOUR ADDONS OUT, delete their folders, its not enough fro them to be disabled andd im just like okay...
do u use clique
no
guys is raidbots for outlaw haste cringe like sub and i gotta play legos on my own
Another random question, but I cant get any of the visual alerts to work with blizzard cooldown manager. Noise alerts work but not visual. Any thoughts?
or can i finally blind follow my sims please respond
ok ty
like sub has
lmk when u do
Is there an guide or some info on where to use bonus rolls etc?
mythic chimaerus/beloren/crown > mythic pit of saron > whatever dungeon to fill slots
pretty much never heroic raid
pit has the most items we could use
Got lucky with my tokens
doesnt it suck energy wise to play without deft in aoe
Keep it rolling at stage 3 or higher for trickster?
is it normal for sims to want more then 25% haste ?
its putting me to to like almost 30% in sims
is it horrible if my 2nd highest damage in keys is main guache?
link
yes
but you probably just have a ton of mastery
i do from gearing as sub, i have 742 mastery atm
@gaunt phoenix https://x.com/0ix4x/status/2047013211258437723
how are we playing lura for adds btw
am i just spamming dispatch and then popping shit when they're out?
U just play the game
Dont hold anything
CDs on CD
Press BF when the fake adds spawn for CP thats abt it
if u get a second BF cast, ofc do that but
how long is adr on cd for typically?
If I am not raiding so can't get raid tirnkets, whats best trinkets to run both for M+ and from M+?
solarprism and idk
Hello o/ there is some easy way to track/recognize RTB buff? using blizz ui+bcdm and its kinda hard to know when i should rtb again looking for a better buff
track RTB as a bar
are sims valuing stats correctly rn?
yes
guys, got 1 token left. should i risk it with skyreach or just POS as usual
ill try tyvm
#showtooltip Counterspell
/cast [@mouseover,harm][@Focus,harm][harm] Kick why does this not work?
ignore cs
O nvm
apparently its mouse not mouseover
its mouseover tho
doesnt work with mouseover, works with mouse so
weird !
when it was mouseover, it only kicked with target selected or mouseover, didnt rly kick focus at all
well does it kick mouseover now tho ?
yes it does kick mouseover now
i have never done triple conditional like that
i run this
any idea why they break
it fixes on reload like 50% of time
m33kaura master..
what breaks
like all the was stop working
guys raidbots work ?
they dont load anymore?
ah idk
and the preview icon go away
we have nothing to do ?
i havent had any issue yet
maybe update the addon ryldd
i updated before logging in
ye probably have to
ya seems right
if we hit cp cap during KS but not energy cpa, do we still cancel or nah
guys I got 912 haste with flask, is that decent
ye ngl
enjoying outlaw more on lura than sub
maybe i just stay on this for rest of prog
@vivid vessel ty
np cuh
i miss counting my sht
get that bird
14 bte streak 
Gentleman, do we always send dispatch at 6 or is 5 fine too ?
magister terrace?
goddamn its hard to get used to outlaw
@green star pretty sure 5 my bro
oh so dont even try to get it to max ?
Just send at 5 by default ? and if its max thats cool too ?
BUILD TO 6
trickster finishes at 6, but ks at 5
Okay so its worth Hitting a sinister strike if im sitting at 5 for dispatch then?
ye you should always get around 6 CP
Wasnt sure if I was wasting energy or not
but dont over combo point it
Yes trickster has to build at 5 a lot
Alright
is sin or pistol shot better for that 6th combo?
If at 0-3 opp, you ss
If at 6 opp you ps
reformulate please
and i was just getting gapped
LOL
just shaman war diff bro dont sweat
Bro trying to play a melee DPS without buffs
and like its nexus
its not even like
we pulled above target cap
we didnt

idk
locks needs the nerf hammer
never gonna happen bro
focus on things that might happen
the life of a melee
good thing you got buffed exactly that right
well ignore druid from both
i guess
what about this one
we didnt finish the key
or well
this is half the key
and this is other half
idk i feel like !
maybe we reacted too quickly !
in the end this buff wasnt that massive lol

you still cant play without full raid buff comp without getting turbo gapped
and i expected outlaw to be hard topping wcl
and its not either
a ton of specs were over 10% ahead of us
i mean, the buff was massive but just took us from the last place to ok
this doesn't really surprise me
like its up there
but its nothing eggregious, its just, a good top tier spec
that is still unplayable on some bosses tho
so
so i dont think we get nerfed
honestyl
objectively
completly objective point of view
we are fine
bro LMFAOOO
looks fine to me
being top 3 on that boss is good
Yeah maybe tettles was right
i was scared
carried I think
The end outlaw is just good
ye
I think ppl really didnt understand how shit rogue was
i mean when ur pulling 8 mobs, demo will still deal significantly more
the doomers in here anyway
i mean
their cds just line up too well in m+
none
cause 8 target is also where outlaw is best
I mean demo is overtuned and got buffed
5 to 8
Outlaw was undertuned and got buffed
8 targets
I'm still scared we're gonna get an aura nerf or BF nerf :c
Shrimple math
is a lot
im not anymore
of mobs^
i was scared before patch hit
gimme your confidence
now im not
outlaw is litteraly just
idk
where it shoudl be even
no one will play it still
demo will just gap everybody except probably devour dh simply because of their cd timings
they just have cds every pull and can even resend
considering all the downsides of the spec
making it still impossible to play it on bosses like crown
Anyone got any trick to adjust fart animation so that i can see things? 😭😭
or belorus
yes
How
i have not had a single issue
with this
everything is perfectly visible under it
!prepull
Oh shit thx
im not entirely sure what this impact btw
in term of mechanics
i know if you disable it sometimes some mechanics dont show at all
!prekey
- Use
Adrenaline Rush to activate
Loaded Dice. - As Trickster, use
KS to activate
Disorienting Strikes. - Do NOT use
RTB before the key, you will lose it. - Use
SND during the bubble once the key starts.
but if you disable parcticle density cloud cover litteraly is invisible
so
if you wanna gamble that
but i think you might not see some mechs so
gl !
gamble class gotta gamble
Awesome thx will give it a go
it makes certain specs viable but
its the only thing making our comp viable right
it shouldnt be that way is the point
like without all these raid buff things
ret should not get 10%
maybe we wouldnt have this phys comp thing
guys i am bad at logical
i will have more chanbce to have the gaze
in a 2/3/9 grp
or 2/4/14 grp
bro i told you
ok more loot in the second option
warlock
but more competitive
is fucking insane
tbh im not sure where wow man power is going mainly
going from league to wow
its kinda just weird
this is particle density to full
and this is low
so it definitly has some issues
at some angle in low
the fire become invisible in this example
but ye idk i think its def boss dependant it might fuck you over on some
and some it might just be better
i think on lura playing particle density low or disbladed helps see glaives better
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
you will wanna add cloud cover to your cdm aswell prolly
easier to know you are inside or not
Does this replace other addons that also modify the CDM?
ignore this if you arent using my ui
its a suplement
like a few weak auras that work on top of my cd m
to do stuffs
u mean in here?
Did you keep your ace refund sound thing updated?
Is your UI available somewhere to use? I think I used to use yours in TWW
blizzard cdm first
no not really because i always used the one from ingame
since there is an ingame sound
I've been using it too but it doesn't sound as cool
weran
third times the charm
wat is this interface?
ayjee
lol was gona say looks like some scuffed blizzard ui haha
!ui
Resources:
ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
Misc:
Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent
ye
What posion do we use :3
stay in cloud for 3 s
then go out
cloud cover timer start from 10s
but the weak aura started when you casted adr
so you know when to come back in cloud
to refresh buff last second
thats the point of the weak aura
say you are in a situation where you are 6+cps but AR>BTE is up, do you dispatch>AR>BTE or just send the AR>BTE
dispatch
sweet
Instant + a utility of your choice
Numbing for tanks in dungeons
Atro for raid
Crippling if you want a slow
ty ty
did u adjust it for sub aswell zac? the cloud cover wa?
Where is your UI available Zac?
ye
its for both specs
i imported zacs WA and now everything i had placed before changed size
deleting it wont make it come back
zac you ruined my life
typical french opp
didnt i just say
its something on top of my cdm
lol
its not meant to be standalone
its litteraly an extension of my cdm
Also when you do something like that backup your WTF folder before
depleted a 17, uhdk told me to play assassin 
Ask him where his missing dots are

Zac did you check how much dps you got in first SR try ?
yeah, i imported it and instantly rearanged everything, deleting it and trying to reload my old atrocityUI did not work
i hate you !!
im sorry cuh
maybe deleting it might work?
i honestly do not know what has stayed after the WA was deleted
so
icon sizes
its all i think
oh and
number of icon per row
and only cd icon sizes
btw
first and 2nd row
i guess i'll just delete wtf folder
you are so mad rn
thats what happens when an assa player tries to steal outlaw tech
dont try that shit agian lil bro
goddamn deleting wtf folder also resets the whole damn config
the music was blasting
Anyone experiencing a lot of bugs on outlaw
yeah
just you
just the adr one
The whole game in shambles bro
like my roll the dice on opener with macro isnt going off
and the buff disappearing again still
and disppaering mid buff as well
-Na
Not doing that with this trickster garbage
I'd rather die
Wdym you don’t want to fart
farting is not that bad, pressing killing spree has been worse
I literally got a warrior killed in skyreach cuz of the cloud
it feels like an entire 2 seconds of doing nothing
LMAFO
At least it doesn’t randomly kill you now
Skill issue he didn’t lower graphics
I don’t see mine
True
You got teleported like 3-4 times and if you were lucky enough to land on a floor spell or in the air it was gg
I might genuinely go back to fatebound tho, I will give trickster one week. I just like fatebound more
Saw zac go 810k dps in first SR pull earlier
Who designs this hit
@NA test for me please
can't confirm
my rogue were fucking useless
Check and FUCKING BOOTS
Yea... in my guild it was always "lol can we get a brez, mini just pressed KS" 😭
ahem
yes
that's funny thou
are you testing for me ?
ahem
now can they fix the class bugs
wdym ahem
Hitting KS while having an ability targeted on you during M+ was great
na beta test for eu no
watch everyone scatter
im not spending a token
waiting for u to get the illusion nub
till a na guy tested for me
thats just
oh
well
ok if i think about it
i start pvp next week
can i outlaw
?
yes
is it actually good
nice
so good
Blade flurry cooks in lower ranks
do itttttt
because you can bait people on top of each other
i dont wanna do big aoe thingy tho
i wanna do
the arena solo q thing
or whatever
thats fine
Solo shuff
trickster slaps
prolly murlok
upodate them now !
Ah shit thx. That fire with low density looks so ass. Might hv to play around and see
ye
a lot of ppl on murlok are giga troll
its gonan be rng tho
ngl
great patch blizz
stg trickster feels like an intern pushed on a Friday afternoon just to watch what would happen
delete killing spree
youre just being dramatic with that one
make the animation some kind of passive or smth
Fuck channels (says the warrior man
At least with that version you can avoid shit on the ground instead of teleporting into it
the only good part about the teleport one was it did more damage lol
like WAY more dam
tbh I only have, like, one wishlist rn, which is prep off the gcd, I already made my peace with the rest
I just want more qol at this point.
this wind chime sure runs around out of my smoke bomb a lot
wind chime ye
Can I be honest
mid fight
wrong channel
LOL
sure thing bud
Ive been doing some roleplay on it

Its been good
i'm doing better as outlaw than sin/sub on vanguards atm
but ugh, this buff tracking problem is having me count in my head when i have jacpot
before i rerll
i would think it is
i think my gear is better tailored, i have no mastery neck/rings or any piece so sin is like 15k behind everytime
idc about killing spree honeslty
i dont like it
but i dont mind it
i have more things to be upset about anywya
it should have just been a massive fkn cannonball meteor style drop
27% haste sure felt a lot better than 22%
and since it doesnt do damage rn idc abotu the fact its rng targeting
ye i played 28%
felt better

idk
weird af
ye same
Yesssss, stack haste
Yeah energy is bad vibes
i ran 30% earlier and it was not bad, but i rather stick to 26-27
bro simming with vantus
lol
ye i play with vantus
i picked haste buff in academy and was at 29% honestly it was peak
more accurate
I feel I m playing assa no stealth tbh
wait wtf
is Sin bugged? i sometimes get parried on rupture application but dont the energy back
get*
mainly why im not actually playing it, something feels awful on it
u mean umbral plume
dumbass
i didnt know it changed name
you are noob or?
guys
this guy noob?
just play sub and turn brain off
Old but still better then u
is lura still bugged guy
i did not play law all patch and i first time it right on lura start prog
i am dodging glaive
i am faker
xD
i'm having fun on it tbh, didnt take long to get used to trickster, though i think im still fucking up the opener a bit
the lura opener is a bit strange
Bros still in P1 
ok man
we are noob ok
my guild has not even bothered with doing heroic lura till we're done with M voidspire
.>
^
i have not done it on normal either
and then we didnt have time to do the other one
Can anyone point me where I can finda good outlaw ui setup
Thanks for the update
i dont turst blizzard
Give us more bonus tokens as compensation
waiting for na beta testers
Now how about that cloud cover energy cost...
I needed a better ring
we want this
Belt was the only thing you wanted right?
ye i mean im on hc rings aswell but
I used both on pit and got bracers then ring
i have a belt
i have hc ring and neck tho both would technically be better
but like
no haste ? in this state of trickster?
you get voracisus ring
No haste no deal!
with lura ring
in hc
lura hc ring
with mythic ring
thats like
short term
rings
situation
that anyone can do
so idk
i just need trinkets

week ?? and im still crucible + 1
u lie
the crusader delve trinket is currently my best…
awang has one too
but he also has a gaze
soo
show ur mog
rn
is it still the red action

vault gave me the shit chim trinket on myth track
imo-
another full week of heroic/normal chim and belo and still nothing






