outlaw

[keen belfry]

i press AR a few seconds earlier than i should i think

[mild vigil]

supposed to be 10s but its bugged, so you have to go higher, idk what the key level should be, I'd just wait until a confirmed fix

[serene urchin]

oh the fuck its bugged?

[mild vigil]

yes

[serene urchin]

thank god didnt use it yet

[mild vigil]

https://old.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/1ss9scy/psa_1205_bugs_do_not_craft_do_not_use_reroll/

[upper hawk]

i used it 3 teims on 10s and it works

[mild vigil]

it can work

[upper hawk]

but ppl are saying it can repeat

[mild vigil]

or it can bug out

[upper hawk]

so i got lukcy i guess

[mild vigil]

and repeat yeah

[echo tapir]

yeah its not bugged on difficulty its just givin dupes i thought

[vivid vessel]

every new patch :
DO NOT DO ANYTHING I REPEAT DO NOT DO ANYTHING, LOGING IN GAME CAN DELETE ALL YOUR CHARS

[mild vigil]

dude for real

it's just the first post I grabbed, but competitive wow is always like this

[vivid vessel]

wdym how could that happen, did the new patch have changes?

nono

[desert latch]

should dispatch be used at 5 cp or higher?

[vivid vessel]

they added fart cloud to outlaw

[wet nest]

crafting something in diablo can probably also mess with ur wow chars

[vivid vessel]

thats why you cant craft anumore

[mild vigil]

nah it's the green apple vape juice

[placid ocean]

AI slop code strikes again

[clear tulip]

#outlaw message

[mild vigil]

when you AR you hit a fat blinker on your vape pen

[eternal hound]

Skill issue just never need to recraft

[placid ocean]

Well yeah, where do you think that rush of adrenaline comes from

[vivid vessel]

from what i heard you cant progress lura also

bug with p3 or whatever

idk

[mild vigil]

oh yeah lura is giga bugged

[vivid vessel]

but how can that happen did they change anything to lura? nono, just added farcloud to outlaw

[potent walrus]

What are bis outlaw trinkets for keys

[vivid vessel]

beloren gaze

[potent walrus]

is belo the last boss of raid one

[vivid vessel]

bird

[placid ocean]

Mythic? Or all difficulties

[vivid vessel]

[echo tapir]

all diff

assuming you dont kill before p3

[mild vigil]

it's fine, outlaw nerf next week, all bugs fixed

[echo tapir]

just kill before p3 🙂

[ashen void]

"Devourer Demon Hunter has been performing higher than we've expected. Therefore, we're applying the following nerfs to Outlaw Rogue."

[waxen scarab]

!log

[mild vigil]

[peak holly]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[peak holly]

are we still doing this?

[ionic citrus]

Just did 160k overall on a WS 15.

Missed a couple of smokes by bursting while moving but it's fun.

TBH the energy is really choked but the damage compensates it.

https://tenor.com/view/independence-day-hello-boys-im-back-return-suicide-gif-6099267

[gusty cipher]

pants dropped from the vault just in time for dropping trickster farts

[echo tapir]

confirmed not a bug with AR cough wowhead

[unique fulcrum]

you dont lose the buff when u mvoe out of smokme

[ionic citrus]

no I mean.. the tank was MOVING while aggroing

long distances

[polar chasm]

I played sub for too long now my brain is mush and there's too many buttons to press on outlaw, I'm so cooked

[unique fulcrum]

ye u still get 15 seconds or so

[desert latch]

yeah feels bad if the tank still pulls further away after u activated ar

[icy niche]

so, is outlaw the de facto rogue spec for M+ now? Been gearing assa

[whole cloak]

what is the best trinkies to go for in m+?

[ionic citrus]

i got 40% uptime on smoke

[fair sparrow]

probably skyreach one

the prism

[desert latch]

also did they change some items with the patch? i swear i had 35% crit yesterday with my eq now it's at 32%

[prisma lantern]

You have a flask expire lol

[novel isle]

BOYS how we feeling with the outlaw update? We pumping?

[cinder relic]

Big dam

[ashen void]

https://tenor.com/view/petty-parker-smoke-snoop-dogg-homer-simpson-disappear-gif-17093677

[worldly zephyr]

We pumping.

[worldly shale]

i literally recrafted everything, mu guild can sue me

[reef forge]

any idea why haste flask would sim so bad even though i only have 22%

[worldly shale]

r u on latest

[reef forge]

i think so

[normal aurora]

Just played with another rogue and seeing the fart cloud from another perspective makes me realize how much i'm blinding people on my rogue

[novel isle]

I dont know what that has to do with anything but im glad for you or sorry that happened

[worldly shale]

mine sims better than crit, im also on 22

[prisma lantern]

And people think we have smoke bomb. Which is goated.

One pug was telling me he invited me for our new smoke bomb in rotation.

I didn't correct him lol

[normal aurora]

We all blind in the fart cloud now

[worldly shale]

that means i was forced into sub, now idgaf since we are pumping xd

[novel isle]

I thought only we could see the smoke haha

[echo tapir]

nope lol

its obnoxious to others

[novel isle]

It looks the same as it does for us?

[echo tapir]

yeah

its not even dimmed for others

[upper hawk]

it should give everyone in the cloud dr

[echo tapir]

like frozen orb and stuff

[novel isle]

its pretty strong 🤣 thought it would be more of a ground effect

[ashen void]

idk if raid settings diminish it but havent had raiders complain as much as m+

[upper hawk]

suddenly it's a raid healing cd

[cinder relic]

It didn't appear in raid

[blissful idol]

outlaw!!

[potent walrus]

Watching people use cds in pvp cuz they think they’re in a smoke bomb is pretty funny. Then actually bombing them the next dr

[ashen void]

sick

[prisma lantern]

"yeah the smoke gives a dr, and added rogue damage." - official spin.

They don't need to know they don't get the dr. 👀

[novel isle]

I assume our BIS is slightly different now?

[vivid vessel]

no

[novel isle]

Thats nice 🔥

Rouge stocks through the roof

[violet raft]

what is the best dungeon for voidcore if i dont raid mithic?

[vivid vessel]

depends on the gear you need

(pit)

[desert latch]

so the smoke not triggering because of under 30 energy is this a bug or intended?

[vivid vessel]

its a bug of course

because distract cost 30 energy

:D

[novel isle]

Someone hit AR real quick and screenshot the smoke so I can show my friend haha

[echo tapir]

wowhead didnt list it with other class bugs so wont get fixed xD

[potent walrus]

Is heroic march raid hard to pug? Havent been in there yet

[vivid vessel]

well

[novel isle]

Dont do it yet though the rolls are not dupe protected

[vivid vessel]

pugs need someone that can do the symbol mechanic

for lura

so if you havea human raid leader

[real plume]

do i coin Gaze of Alnseer??

[flat needle]

!log

[vivid vessel]

should be fine

[vivid vessel]

guys

now that you can have any swords on back

what are the best sword transmogs

[potent walrus]

In pvp, enemies dont see the green either lol. So they think they’re got smoke bombed

[vivid vessel]

that werent usable before

[keen belfry]

the one from hutns is good

[worldly shale]

i literally didnt recognize any that didnt sheathe on the back

now im using the uuuugh

rapiers

from shadowlands

will prob switch

[vivid vessel]

hm

[wide coral]

venthyr rapiers are goated

[vivid vessel]

remove the ventrhy embel wang

i wnana see

[normal aurora]

question: Sometimes Ace refunds and i'm back to 6 CPs, 1st cp is from Ruthlessness, where is the 2nd CP coming from? Is it Ruth granting 2 when spending more than 5 or something?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes it's ruth

[vivid vessel]

@keen belfry thoguhts

[wide coral]

what an atrocity

[gaunt phoenix]

when you spent at 6cp, you have a 100% chance to refund 1cp and 20% chance to get another

[clear tulip]

dagger baguette

[normal aurora]

Yea, that what i was figuring, just wanted to make sure. tyty

[potent walrus]

Does any1 stream high outlaw keys that i can watch

[real plume]

if i have 1 potato trinket, do i coin Gaze of Alnseer??

[clear tulip]

too bad they cant go on our backs

[vivid vessel]

holy banger

[clear tulip]

[jolly geyser]

oh could put fish on back?

or shovel&pickaxe

[real plume]

baguetettes can you help me 🙁

im about to kill Chimaerus on HC, do i coin for trinket

[thorn parrot]

Jesus look at those bad boys

[jolly geyser]

damn

[vivid vessel]

maybe the ones from the event then

instead of venthyr

the venthyr ones are kinda boring to me

[thorn parrot]

Good god what a nightmare

The seriously need to scale those down

[wide coral]

these the plunder ones?

[clear tulip]

Alleria sword looks badass on the back too

[vivid vessel]

thats just cause im a dwarf cuh

[jolly geyser]

just grow taller

[vivid vessel]

eh

[thorn parrot]

No, they’re huge on my elf too 🙁

[vivid vessel]

its a bit

too square for me

[lavish halo]

Anyone know how to make my prep get into my 1. row ? I use acdm

[wide coral]

oooh the nerubar ones

[fair laurel]

So im fine with aoe but for some reason i suck balls as ST rotation. Its the same priority right?

[keen belfry]

i love tehse words

they are massive

[real plume]

can you pls move transmog chat to transmog channel?...

[kind axle]

fish sword > sword fish

[worldly shale]

HOLY FUCKO THAT LOOKS COOL

are there darker ones

reminds me of swords from assassins creed brotherhood or some shit

[clear tulip]

actual physics for the blood in the orbs too

[vivid vessel]

lol

[vivid vessel]

no

unfortunatly

i wish there was some dark onee

[worldly shale]

shitty

[vivid vessel]

not with red handle and hsit but

ye

[reef forge]

the whole prepull AR is scuffed especially when the boss gets moved

[vivid vessel]

christmas gonna go crazy this year tho

[jolly geyser]

the double dildo

[buoyant cosmos]

The massive sword from Shadow Labyrinth probably looks good on the back, and the big blue sword from SSC

[ashen birch]

!ui !macro

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
• WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
• Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent

[buoyant cosmos]

ancient textures, but they wouldn't clip into the ground anymore

[wide coral]

nerubar ones

[hybrid crown]

Can you back sheathe like

Petrified camel haunch

Or the feesh

[buoyant cosmos]

fish yeah, scroll up

[jolly geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1496572868782330018/image.png?ex=69ea5f98&is=69e90e18&hm=aa90111e51e2e0e07c6c286916b0f9eaf36495a92231e424b8a56a79e91019ab&

[hybrid crown]

Lmao

[buoyant cosmos]

The glazer on the back is a RP nightmare

sticky back and hair forever

[jolly geyser]

Fish with the Fish

[inland acorn]

Man, the energy on trickster is rough af...

[clear tulip]

gotta rock the fish or the baguettes

[buoyant cosmos]

Fish

[kind axle]

any other asymmetrical enjoyers?

[buoyant cosmos]

Non matched weps too

[jolly geyser]

I would have diff weap types for that

[kind axle]

but the glow on phos blade is just too good

[buoyant cosmos]

he's a ghOoooStt

[lean shadow]

hey outlaw people when should i smack lights potential?

[buoyant cosmos]

every 5

[arctic hollow]

wtf, i dont have the same stat balance as this morning without changing my gear, i was at 21 haste now 23. AM I missing something obvious with the new talents ?

[lean shadow]

so just on pull?

[buoyant cosmos]

sure

[thorn parrot]

Literally the only reason I keep KS is so I can regen energy throughout the damage

[inland acorn]

even if you fully channel KS you're still like

so bad with energy

like holy fuck

[timber knoll]

hi guys returning for the xpac. is outlaw meant to feel like... less smooth / slower than before

[inland acorn]

FB was actually lifting up this spec from literal coffin

[buoyant cosmos]

yup

[tender sable]

feelin energy starved a bit

is that normal?

[buoyant cosmos]

Probably want to play fury warrior if you're looking for ADHD gameplay right?

[thorn parrot]

Yes trickster is ass right now for energy

[tender sable]

ew

[timber knoll]

outlaw had the really satisfying audiovisual feedback from procs and whatnot i really enjoyed

[tired wolf]

IDK why but the muscle memory for dispatching on 6 is screwing with me even though we've been BtEing on 6 the whole time

[keen belfry]

we are back to pirate gaming i think

[jolly geyser]

with the dogs out

[thorn parrot]

Yo ho

[buoyant cosmos]

gotta grip the rigging

[nova blaze]

someones gotta explain trickster rotation to me i do 80 k on fatebound and 60k on trickster. something aint right

[raven wyvern]

what is this bullshit, i cant have thunderfury on hip?!

[shadow trellis]

we are so back

OUTLAW

[raven wyvern]

send talents pretty please ❤️

[shadow trellis]

I copied what solo posted in pins haha

[hybrid crown]

The back plunder storm swords is nice

Man this is making me want to play my rogue

Cloth tmog sucks

[shadow trellis]

Dude honestly

Kiling spree animation

is so fire

[jolly geyser]

wlock is a class

[buoyant cosmos]

There's some good stuff, just a different vibe

Also turn on shadow form and no one can tell your mog is cheeks

[hybrid crown]

Priest 🙁

I love my locks tmog actually good point

[copper radish]

https://x.com/thdlock/status/2047005969968709685?s=46&t=YKaisWqFkCTf8y-DfuEaHw

Liquid Thdlock (@Thdlock)

Yep

X · Apr 22, 2026, 5:33 PM

Outlaw 👀

[vivid vessel]

ye

we are lower than i expected

im ngl

[gaunt phoenix]

rly

[vivid vessel]

yes

if you take last week numbers

and you multiply by 1.13

[copper radish]

Devourer looking ridiculous

[copper radish]

ADR bug or something 🤷‍♂️

[gleaming reef]

yeah I thought I would be pumping

[vivid vessel]

we are here

[gleaming reef]

But I'm just competitive

[vivid vessel]

if you straight multiply last week nujbers

by 1.13

[dusty magnet]

whats dps loss if you dont run killing spree

[cinder relic]

Outlaw v good

[vivid vessel]

also there is still no outlaw logs on last 3 bosses

so

[shadow trellis]

Tbf the ops got buffed too

[vivid vessel]

and honestly

[torn raptor]

Is outlaw best rogue spec now?

[timber knoll]

is outlaw apl updated

[vivid vessel]

this is best case scenario for outlaw

[cinder relic]

Tbf beloren logs arent real

[vivid vessel]

we are right where we should be

[vivid vessel]

i know

[shadow trellis]

yeah

[vivid vessel]

i parsed a 9 on it guy

cause i played sub

[keen belfry]

new recor dzac

900k

[vivid vessel]

afk first phase

[slim hare]

everry spec got decent buff

[vivid vessel]

to do 300k intermission

[ancient cobalt]

is outlaw sick on belo interm

[vivid vessel]

was fun honestly

[gaunt phoenix]

yes but i need to send KS at 5

[vivid vessel]

ye very op

play it

[gaunt phoenix]

so add 0.5% dps

[vivid vessel]

guild will thank you

[ancient cobalt]

ok ill play sub still

[copper radish]

So are we no longer dooming

[vivid vessel]

but ye idk when i look at vorasius boss damage

[copper radish]

Cloud cover saved outlaw?

[ancient cobalt]

i have mythic outlaw weapon no dagger yet tho

[vivid vessel]

im thinking we are about where we should be

considering it should be the outlw boss

[river wing]

by god
this plays like shit...

[vivid vessel]

so idk

[brave lagoon]

Goodbye dooming hello gooning

Wait

[cinder relic]

I was getting told on reddit that "Devourer DH ST is trash"

Weird

[vivid vessel]

we prolly not getting nerfed

[cinder relic]

It seems like its above average?

While also having the best AOe in the entire gamE/
weird

[copper radish]

Till tuning notes then melts downs begin

[hardy garden]

Are we holding AR to always use it with blade rush > bte?

[vivid vessel]

[copper radish]

They sound like rets

[hardy garden]

Or are we popping that bitch when we get it

[ancient cobalt]

omfgg outlaw big numberr, i gotta hit the lab and learn it again

i pray its not hard

[copper radish]

Devourer straight S+ tier right now lmao

[cinder relic]

It was before

[copper radish]

And got big buffs

Insane

+++

[olive bramble]

We're holding bte if AR is almost up

[radiant wyvern]

they made another uptime spec except they made it good this time

[gaunt phoenix]

you hold bte for AR, not the other way around

[ancient cobalt]

yo what about outlaw on lura

[ancient cobalt]

be real with me

[vivid vessel]

i think outlaw on lura pre buff was defnitily an option

like i wanted to send outlaw on it

post buff?

no reason not to play outlaw on lura

its prolly the best spec

by a decent margin

[ancient cobalt]

okay

ill start collecting the stat pieces

[vivid vessel]

if you were playing sub with crit

its legit the same gear

[gleaming reef]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/class-bugs-with-patch-12-0-5-unholy-dk-preservation-evoker-381338

[vivid vessel]

now if you were a mastery stacker

[gleaming reef]

Why outlaw not bugged?

[vivid vessel]

thats skill issue on your part

[vivid vessel]

they forgot to check rogue discord pins

[stoic wagon]

guys cna we track the buff of the shroud that ar do or not?

[gleaming reef]

grrr

[ancient cobalt]

i have 1200 crit omfg

im so up

[vivid vessel]

you have way more crit than me

kidna goated

[ancient cobalt]

how much haste outlaw need dont say more than 700

[gaunt phoenix]

like 24%

[vivid vessel]

more than 700

[cinder relic]

Probs like 800ish

[ancient cobalt]

holy shit im fucked

[vivid vessel]

gg

[cinder relic]

Just use a haste flask

[vivid vessel]

reroll assa?

[ancient cobalt]

im 700 with haste flask

[vivid vessel]

[somber fractal]

did they remove abanon feature?

[cedar bone]

!log

[olive bramble]

I am on 850 haste+

[ashen void]

~~OUTLAW!!! ~~ Outlaw

[somber fractal]

or cant you abandon at 2 min left in key?

[olive bramble]

and like 1k crit +

[ancient cobalt]

haste flask haste gems 700 minimum

[vivid vessel]

half the game is bugged

[fossil lintel]

Guy can you get wowhead folks to add the 30 energy bug there on that post?

[vivid vessel]

its patch day

[fossil lintel]

Only way it gets fixed

[hardy garden]

Any recommendations on videos I can watch? I'm def not bad but I feel like I can't find any decent resources anymore

[vivid vessel]

no !

[craggy barn]

fart is so funny in keys

[ancient cobalt]

society wont let me acquire haste

[craggy barn]

dumb fart isnt showing in raid for others

[vivid vessel]

if they fix it they will nerf the talent

let it go guys

its not even a bad bug

look energy

easy

[mystic berry]

@cinder relic

[fluid meadow]

Updated Subscription Prices in the United Kingdom, Kazakhstan, Georgia, and Turkey. need new version of ai?

[fossil lintel]

I lost like 3 farts yesterday in a key

It's not healthy to hold them in like that

[mystic berry]

sometimes they just wont come out

[fresh acorn]

What makes outlaw so good on Lura, just constant uptime and good tuning?

[fossil lintel]

Even though my wife often complains if I don't at least try to hold them in

[ancient cobalt]

it do dam

[vivid vessel]

its just a perma uptime boss

outlaw does good st rn

[unkempt dew]

So no stream ey?

[vivid vessel]

even pre buff it did

[vivid vessel]

when my feral end raid

[mystic berry]

where is the law stream zac

I need to steal the tech

[gaunt phoenix]

is wclogs dying or my isp

[ancient cobalt]

i wasted a bonus roll trying to get a dagger this week coulda bonus rolled outlaw stuff gg

[fossil lintel]

Wclogs often dies around this time in the week

[vivid vessel]

if you have to ask its always wcl

[mystic berry]

I plan to use it on mythic chimaerus and nothing else

[fossil lintel]

Just get the pos dagger, every bonus roll there is good

[ancient cobalt]

nope im gearin for lura now bro

bird gonna die

[desert latch]

now that our dmg is finally good we won't get invited to groups because people cant stand the smokebombs lol

[hardy garden]

Are we still potting for crit even if it pushes us into DR?

[fossil lintel]

Isn't sub crit haste now as well?

[desert latch]

we're a fkn liability now

[worldly zephyr]

Why do you guys keep recommending a piece of shit dagger?

[mystic berry]

I wouldnt invite farting classes too

[ancient cobalt]

sub is crit, mast haste to 700 with guidon

[olive bramble]

sim it

[gaunt phoenix]

outlaw uses dagger offhand

for zero in procs

[vivid vessel]

why not

[ancient cobalt]

crafted dagga

[vivid vessel]

you can transmog piece of shjit dagger to piece of shit sword

[worldly zephyr]

lol I know I was making a simpleton joke

[vivid vessel]

whats the downside

[fossil lintel]

I don't even think the talent is that strong, the spec is just more in tune with it's average player

[jolly geyser]

they fixed recrafting yet?

[peak holly]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[ancient cobalt]

dude actually bis timeline didnt craft mh otl weapon, crafted bis OH

[near rock]

seems fine

[craggy barn]

zac u fiinally gonna be able to beat farover?

[worldly zephyr]

At one point my dumbass thought pos meant piece of shit cause like it usually does, then I remembered pit of saron lmao

[jolly geyser]

do pos pos

[thick quest]

hey, if i have daggers upgraded and got a myth outlaw wep i can upgrade it free or not?

[ancient cobalt]

is guidon good on outlaw hehe

[merry elk]

zac mr sir. how to have the + at the base of your feet

[fossil lintel]

If you ever get into payment tech they use POS as point of sale quite often, and I can't for the life of me not read it as piece of shit

[true dust]

how important is it to use SND in the opener instead of dispatch? I don't even have SND on my bars anymore and i hate to press it

[copper radish]

Zac when we gonna get some dmg meters of outlaw crushing arms warrior in keys

[worldly zephyr]

I’m a nurse so that’s unlikely but ye never know

[fossil lintel]

Although it's quite fitting that the farting class loves gear from pos

[kind axle]

With how awful my luck has been with drops in pit, you're right. Pit of saron = piece of shit

[jolly geyser]

PoS smells like shit prolly and we fart

[fossil lintel]

And did you guys noticed they added a green colour to the fart?

[icy token]

evenign fellas! quick question, I cant find a list of macros for Outlaws, any pointers where i can find them? 😄

[mystic berry]

yeah

There is a green tint

I wonder what they meant by that

[echo tapir]

there really isnt any

[stoic wagon]

is bte priority over js guys?

ks

[echo tapir]

grapple at cursor

[olive bramble]

friendly fart

[fossil lintel]

Grab the tankmd addon

[livid pewter]

bru i literally thought ill climb the meters like hell now, jesus... its feels weird to play trickster again

[round spindle]

Which buffs do we need to monitor as Trickster aside from Cloud Clover?

[kind axle]

I miss quadruple grapple already 😢

[echo tapir]

same

[mystic berry]

I did less dps yesterday than with fb, my friends are mocking me

[fickle relic]

trickster is such a downgrade gameplay-wise compared to fatebound

[mystic berry]

I need to adapt

[fossil lintel]

We don't need to monitor the fart

[ancient cobalt]

😂

coins had way more aura

st gain but aura loss

[fossil lintel]

My guildies were commenting every fart last night on m+ though

[stoic wagon]

do we KS in single target?

[fossil lintel]

Yes

[stoic wagon]

ty

[craggy barn]

ive died to fart a few times in mplus lol

cant see shit

[ancient cobalt]

i will be able to answer questions once i read the otl faq soon

[mystic berry]

we either shit coins or fart for power, the class fantasy these last xpacs has been ???

[high spire]

so it seems outlaw is cookin like crazy right now wtf?

[kind axle]

The screen jitter on KS makes my brain itch

[livid pewter]

i struggle hard to finish at 6cp's now... feels like im wasting so much when im at 5 and have to ss again

[mystic berry]

that devourer tho

[normal aurora]

don't forget our tumbleweeds!

[fossil lintel]

At least it's some kind of fantasy you know? Druids have the power of nature, DKs have the power of death, rogues now have the power of flatulence

[high spire]

im very surprised at these logs wtf. outlaw is best for raiding now too? jeez

[cinder relic]

Its solid, but its skewed due to lack of logs on the bad outlaw bosses

[mystic berry]

Petko already snitched that zac is number 1

[cinder relic]

It seems good where its good though

[fossil lintel]

Outlaw is unlikely to be the best for every boss

[olive bramble]

We cooking tho

[mystic berry]

We will still suck balls in paladins and beloren tho I guess

[river wing]

man
why do we always have to pay for power with some bullshit

[olive bramble]

Those juicy farts are cooking.

[sharp charm]

so whats the rotation now

[fossil lintel]

Damn, now I kind of want to tauren so I can just say it's all about bullshit

[round spindle]

Is Smoke Screen the buff we need to track?

[fossil lintel]

Is there any point in tracking it?

[rotund cloud]

i will never get used to seeing auto attacks being my 4th highest dps

[round spindle]

I'm thinking if we are out of the cloud and need to know when to do back in.

[livid pewter]

if tank pulls mobs off the cloud u can just dip in and reset if it helps

[fossil lintel]

You may want to track the fart itself but that is separate from the buff, you just need to remember it expires when AR is at 5

[mystic berry]

You can track it just to see if you are in the cloud range

[kind axle]

We're the tumbleweeds. Rolling through life farting along the way

[fickle relic]

very relatable

[uneven needle]

in the opener, when do we use KS?

[cinder relic]

after you run out of BTEs

[gaunt phoenix]

and prep

[fossil lintel]

On m+ I'm just popping it while tank gathers stuff

[ancient cobalt]

only bad on belo?

[gaunt phoenix]

you AR etc. > bte spam > prep bte > finally ks when you cant bte

[ancient cobalt]

seems like itd be chill on alleria

[fossil lintel]

Paladins maybe as well?

[ancient cobalt]

paladins sub sucks ass anyways so its w.e

[fossil lintel]

We dislike downtime as well but maybe it's okay for alleria

[keen belfry]

terrrible quality but

882k

[fickle relic]

do we insta ar after prep?

[gaunt phoenix]

No

[fossil lintel]

AA first pull?

[peak holly]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[gaunt phoenix]

you dont AR while AR is already active

[gaunt gorge]

cause i play assa high keys i egenunly want to know is out law better than assa now especially in pugs ?

[fickle relic]

not worth it to use supercharged bte?

[thorny ice]

try it out, they will love you, bro

[fossil lintel]

Is that first pull on AA?

[keen belfry]

yeah

[ancient cobalt]

i need that

[fossil lintel]

I can never do well on that pull cause tanks just run in random directions

[lean shadow]

i like to AR while AR is ARing till the end of AR

[ancient cobalt]

sin players shakin rn cause otl bis

[keen belfry]

i basciallyy ended first pull at 700k lmao

new wr

[unique fulcrum]

@vivid vessel were u able to update m33kauras with wowup? cuz its not working for me

[fossil lintel]

Also your paladin is Brazilian, sorry to inform you

[still matrix]

Does tricks not apply for an hour in raid?

[keen belfry]

and my warr too

all this bs i do for my warr

[fossil lintel]

We are legion

[vivid vessel]

install it manually then idk

[worldly compass]

is there any pre key tech for outlaw?

[vivid vessel]

worked for me to install it like that

but idk

[keen belfry]

@vivid vessel fuck u

[vivid vessel]

whatdehelly !

gge !

[frail veldt]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[mystic berry]

log it bro

[ancient cobalt]

dude levels in rtb

take me back to gods country fr

[lone surge]

im thinking of rerolling from my ww in m+ any chance outlaw will be meta?

[stoic wagon]

do we still prep even though ar is still ongoing in opener?

[worldly shale]

anyone got trouble with alerts in cdm

[kind axle]

I mean, Zac does have the top key in the world right now

[worldly shale]

some of my alerts not working

[native zinc]

outlaw npc with quality rogue animations

[lone surge]

are the buffs to outlaw big for m+?

[gaunt phoenix]

Ye

[mystic berry]

We dont talk about his killing spree here

[stoic wagon]

please

[mystic berry]

we dont ks before prep?

[gaunt phoenix]

Correct

[stoic wagon]

apparently ks doesn't matter to prep

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[radiant wyvern]

what a useless ability

[fickle relic]

ks is garbage

[stoic wagon]

do we know why?

[midnight granite]

No dam

[stoic wagon]

don't we loose on the long run in key?

[gaunt phoenix]

You Prep BtE as soon as your first bte stops resetting

You dont lose anything

[stoic wagon]

oh yh youre right

[gaunt phoenix]

You dont press AR again until the first one expires

you just bte

[stoic wagon]

yes youre right

[midnight granite]

Is there ever a point i press something instead of bte of it resets like 30 times

[stoic wagon]

my bad

[dire rampart]

oh do we killing spree pre key or in bubble now?

[gaunt phoenix]

prekey yeah

[fossil sable]

I think BD

[dire rampart]

cool

thanks

[mystic berry]

Pre key, then as tank gathers

depending how fast he gathers

[ancient cobalt]

wait i got the mythic bis neck for otl holy moly

and the ring wtf

[mystic berry]

rerolls?

[fossil lintel]

We KS pre key?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

[vivid vessel]

i think end game gear alleria neck might be better

if you can manage to gear around it

[fossil lintel]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[vivid vessel]

if the only haste on your gear is lke the haste ring and the alleria neck

[fossil lintel]

So we don't snd on the bubble?

[stoic wagon]

"Use finishers at 6+ CPs, but as Fatebound, Dispatch should be used at 5+ CPs." why not also as trickster for 5cp?

[fossil lintel]

Oh nvm

[ancient cobalt]

yaa i gotta figure out haste but i think i can slap on a haste crit heroic ring and be good for haste

[fossil lintel]

KS gives the cp back

[worldly compass]

!prekey

[ancient cobalt]

with a haste flask

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[peak holly]

yes

[gaunt phoenix]

Fatebound just happens to like 5cp dispatch for coins

• it gets extra CPs from SS

[stoic wagon]

so always 6cp for all finishers now?

[mystic berry]

yes

[gaunt phoenix]

yes, but you can KS at 5

[stoic wagon]

why?

[gaunt phoenix]

cuz ks sucks

[ancient cobalt]

ethically i cannot spend my crests on my otl myth weapon im still on belo

[gaunt phoenix]

the CPs only scales duration

and it scales worse per cps

[peak holly]

at 5cps were using ss or sending ps?

[hardy garden]

Is there a way to make a macro that casts ADR and Slice and Dice, but if slice and dice is already active it doesn't re-apply?

[gaunt phoenix]

at 3 opp, you ss
at 6 opp, you ps

[peak holly]

ty

[mystic berry]

Is cancelling ks into a finisher at 6 cp okay(

?*

[gaunt phoenix]

it's not worth every time but it's okay

[stoic wagon]

why? sorry again lol

why ps at 6

and not ss

[gaunt phoenix]

if you ss at 6 opp then you risk overcapping opp

[peak holly]

so dyou dont overcap

[gaunt phoenix]

opp is opportunity

[quaint wharf]

until AR expires or cloud cover?

[gaunt phoenix]

for the first AR it doesnt seem to matter

if you wait or just AR immediately

i like waiting for bte to come back and then use second AR

[polar chasm]

how long does the loaded dice buff last, I keep forgetting to rtb with the buff. would it be bad to macro AR and RTB together? or would that be really bad/not possible?

[gaunt phoenix]

it lasts 45 seconds

it would be bad, you would override your good buffs

[polar chasm]

ok im just regarded then

[tired wolf]

you should track the buff

[polar chasm]

yeah I track rtb but its not prominent enough

gonna make it massive and then yell at me when it falls off

[tired wolf]

the loaded dice buff

[vestal grail]

the bonus roll bug is only in m+ ? or in raid too

[polar chasm]

I would guess the bonus roll duplicate protection is just broken altogether

[fossil lintel]

I hope they fix that properly because I've sent my 2 bonus rolls already

[ancient cobalt]

if i upgrade sword will my dagger be reduced cost

[eternal hound]

Who knows for raid

[vestal grail]

wondering to wait to kill chimaerus mythic since i have already 1 piece of loot of him

[fossil lintel]

Need two weapons upgraded for the discount

[eternal hound]

You can't roll on the same boss twice in a week

[vestal grail]

so would be 50% for trincket

[ancient cobalt]

should be chill across weapon types though?

[fossil lintel]

Yeah, doesn't matter weapon types

[ancient cobalt]

i have crafted 285 dagger so would be free until 289 if i just upgrade my sword i suppose

[eternal hound]

Nope

[kind axle]

we're all a lil regarded ❤️

[gaunt phoenix]

would laugh if they cant retroactively fix it.

bonus rolled items that should be dupe-protected are already weirdly scripted and not part of the item string, so like your /simc or raidbots has no way of seeing it. scripted stuff tends to lead to fuckery

[eternal hound]

that's not how dual weild usually works to my knowledge

[ancient cobalt]

hmm

[stoic wagon]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.
• Use SND during the bubble once the key starts.

[eternal hound]

You'd need 2 285 weapons for it to be free

[vestal grail]

zzzzz

[ancient cobalt]

ya ill have my crafted and my upgraded sword or dagger then my next sword or dagger is free mhm

[eternal hound]

Oh

[ancient cobalt]

just trying to play both specs rn

[eternal hound]

Then yes it's free

same man

[fossil lintel]

It is blizzard though, they delete people's banks and said "can't fix it"

[ancient cobalt]

belo prog sub lura otl..

[eternal hound]

Sub and law

[ancient cobalt]

i have no mythic dagger but got an OS roll mythic weapon for law

[eternal hound]

we shall never forgive them for that bullshit

[silk dirge]

We prefer to waste opp stacks at 5cp if at 6 stacks or we risk munching proc with ss? Seems no information in faq about this especially around a ace 5 cp reset

[proven ocean]

milk

[gaunt phoenix]

you ss

no you dont

[proven ocean]

no ur an ss

oh u meant his msg

[gaunt phoenix]

you opp at 6

[proven ocean]

nvm

[gaunt phoenix]

The builder priority says that opp at 6 always has priority over ss

[eternal hound]

so guys if I need trinkies bad

Gamba on skyreach?

[indigo token]

guys I wanna ask something

have you guys been suffering dcs in raid?

[gaunt phoenix]

nop

[indigo token]

its been happening in my raid

[silk dirge]

5 cp ace reset in 6 stacks opp feels so shit lol

[haughty wigeon]

AR/Prep is love, life and happiness.

Prep is what gave back some life to the soul less Outlaw and a big tip of the spear which led the charge to the glorious revival of Outlaw for Midnight. Anyone that doesn’t understand this just wants Outlaw to remain in the Mariana’s trench.

Sub and Outlaw are huge wins in Midnight and that is why this continues to be reflected as the rise of Rogue is unavoidable.

Rogues emerged from the dark ages of TWW design and has great potential moving forward being free from the shackles.

🏄‍♂️ 🏄‍♀️

[indigo token]

wondering if its a known issue

[tardy cradle]

Do the buffs justify moving to outlaw from sub ?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

[indigo token]

you know, a child in a warzone died cause of the water you used to generate that

[silk dirge]

If ur shit stay sub though

[haughty wigeon]

shit man

its not even ai

[indigo token]

its not???

[fossil lintel]

Ah yes, the rise of the fart specs

[eternal hound]

Oh god the copypastas

[fickle relic]

do we just go m+ build for paladins?

[kind axle]

are you mafic from the rogue forums? lmao

[eternal hound]

Oh my god

[proven ocean]

his msg isnt ai but he is ai

[ancient cobalt]

bro do not chatgpt otl

[proven ocean]

rem is known to be robotic

[fossil lintel]

Wait is mafic here?

[eternal hound]

the fucking bar art keeps breaking lol

[haughty wigeon]

nop

[kind axle]

tired from work talks just like mafic and posts the surfer people under ever message like mafic 🤔

[gaunt phoenix]

yes but it sucks for haste

you should prolly haste flask even past 25

for specifically vanguard/dragons

[kind axle]

ah okay

[haughty wigeon]

i like to copy pasta his stuff so we can suffer together

[tiny temple]

can i ask a question about talent choice? do you prefer Acrobatic Strikes or~~ Loaded Dice~~ Sleight of Hand if you had to choose?

[kind axle]

well that's why it was so recognizably mafic lmao

[gaunt phoenix]

Loaded Dice is the strongest talent in the entire tree

[haughty wigeon]

lol

[gaunt phoenix]

do you mean sleight of hand?

[fair charm]

Loaded.

[fossil lintel]

Loaded dice is never not taken, we would take it over every single other node

[tiny temple]

errr

Slight of Hand

hahah

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah, sleight is the way

[zenith sequoia]

in raidbots how can i add in a 285 crafted weapon to sim to see how much of an upgrade it would be?
i dont have the weapon i want to see how much of an increase it'll be before i craft

[tiny temple]

let me cross that out

[fossil lintel]

Heck I would take loaded dice over AR

[gaunt phoenix]

i updated the aoe build to use sleight instead of acro

it should be the way

[lavish halo]

Do i always sim dslice for item upgrades ?Or can i just do 1 target patch @ 5min and 5 target to make it go faster?

[fossil sable]

KS is at 5 or 6 CPs btw ?

[gaunt phoenix]

5

[kind axle]

type name into item search bar. select 285 ilvl, left click on item

oh and select stats as well

[tiny temple]

I think i like Sleight better, been getting so many 1 rolls without loaded dice active

[fossil lintel]

Solo how much of a loss is it to just cancel KS instantly?

[fossil sable]

ty

[gaunt phoenix]

for outlaw i think it doesnt matter what you sim, our gear is pretty fixed

i like 1 target 3 minute with m+ buffs, so like an m+ boss

[lavish halo]

U never sim cleave?

[zenith sequoia]

ah ok i see it, ty!

[gaunt phoenix]

not really

[lavish halo]

ok ty !

[fossil lintel]

Our ST is our cleave

[quaint wharf]

i guess with sleight the KiR at 3 rule goes hard

[fossil sable]

ty

[gaunt phoenix]

we have the same crit haste and trinkets in st or cleave

[true dust]

how much of a loss is to not use SND?

[lavish halo]

and also at 4/5 cp and BF is ready i still use it ?

[gaunt phoenix]

If BF is not active or you are in aoe yes

err

[lavish halo]

thx

[gaunt phoenix]

at specifically 2 target you would maintain bf instead of slam it

at 3 target you build on cd

[lavish halo]

yea

[near osprey]

any1 know approximate % dps loss from finishing at 5 cps instead of 6

[gaunt phoenix]

for dispatch it's like -0.5%

for bte idk

dont bte at 5

[silk dirge]

Any predictors of grand melee over dispatched on lura for adds could be gud

[fossil lintel]

Solo is it normal to just run out of steam and be energy starved as hell between ARs a few minutes into a pull?

I swear we need tea on rb

[vivid vessel]

[gaunt phoenix]

it is

[quaint wharf]

[fossil lintel]

It feels so ass sometimes

[gaunt phoenix]

when tea runs out you are at god's mercy

[fossil lintel]

Is it okay to finish at 5 at the point just to feel something?

[gaunt phoenix]

but i mean still playing well influences energy cant completely ignore that

no lol

[random stirrup]

are you reclearing

[elder sonnet]

did they remove the extra roll from vault options?

[random stirrup]

or am i gonna get to watch and learn ahead of my outlaw lura gaming

[vivid vessel]

we are gonna be doing chiamerus only

[fossil lintel]

Wasting energy overcapping from 5 feels so shit when you're in the gutter

[gaunt phoenix]

you cant bonus roll from the vault no

[vivid vessel]

then lura insta

[livid pewter]

@gaunt phoenix help me think, we finish on 6+ with trickster because? just for energy management?

[vivid vessel]

i went and puged first 3 void for vualt

[random stirrup]

ah we did up to dragons as well for vaelgor

[wise hemlock]

How does one. Bonus roll

[elder sonnet]

oh whatt when did they make that change

[fossil lintel]

Do content, click the button that pops up

[wise hemlock]

[ashen void]

solo is it normal to have a toenail which grows up towards the sky instead of parallel to the ground

[wise hemlock]

Am i rollong correctly? Rate my form

[gaunt phoenix]

just how it is, fatebound happened to like 5 for coins, and it gets extra cps

for trickster if you keep finishing at 5 you get stuck in a 1 > 5 loop

while fatebound can 1 > 6

[livid pewter]

well i need to get used to it, my brain farts and primary press finishers at 5 cps

[jagged plover]

you take the socket currency and trade it in for an extra bonus roll

but someone told me if you try to trade it in when you already have your 2 weekly rolls it doesn't overcap to 3, so i am not clicking it until someone tells me it works

[gaunt phoenix]

oh ye mb i misinterpreted that question

[jagged plover]

but ye you use the roll after a m10 or raid boss kill, it doesn't like give you an extra vault option

tho it is vault ilvl ofc

[fossil lintel]

It only shows up after you unlocked bonus rolls as well, need to finish the quest

[kind axle]

I changed my wang bar to turn cp's red at 6 instead of 5. brain sees grey and doesn't wanna press dispatch. brain sees red and says "okay, dispatch time"

[cinder relic]

ALERT GUYS

[blissful idol]

hoooly

[echo tapir]

yeah im already working on it 🙂

[vivid vessel]

ugly

[merry elk]

guys i need to learn outlaw

[vivid vessel]

very ugly even

[dim sky]

are the bonus rolls still bugged

[merry elk]

with avoidance too xd

[lucid sparrow]

how do u get this shit

[native tinsel]

2 questions guys:

1. does BR has higher prio than BTE?
2. do we use BR regardless of the state (high or low cp, during or off AR etc)

[lucid sparrow]

its straight up void vomit

[timid idol]

its alright, shoulders are the best piece

[native tinsel]

[timid idol]

how do u get it tho

or rather when is wow 20 event

[echo tapir]

its also not class specific

so warrior one on my pally

[kind axle]

oh so we can use the dh set 👀

[midnight granite]

Yea that shit is actually ugly

[polar chasm]

its not skimpy PASS

[jagged plover]

bro i dc'd

[jolly geyser]

remove pant and chest

[jagged plover]

now i cant strafe

WHAT

[dusty mulch]

I saw some post on reddit about rogue's secondary stats being fucked. Is that not an Outlaw thing I should be worried about?

[plain fox]

guys, pistol shot or ss on 5 cbs a trickster?

[timid idol]

kinda based

[kind axle]

big goon = big dam

[timid idol]

also the mog is just unfitting for an outlaw

even for a sin that doesnt really work

[cinder relic]

The void assaults

[echo tapir]

thats the warrior shoulders on my pally

[buoyant cosmos]

raiders yearn for the gaze

[lucid sparrow]

void vomit transmog lmao

[timid idol]

HOLY what are those pants please

[lucid sparrow]

xal'atath puked on our anniversary set

[buoyant cosmos]

2004's best

[cinder relic]

These sets aren't class locked too

So U can get the monk sets

[lucid sparrow]

oh thats cool

[kind axle]

scorched shorts from the burning bathtub in undermine

[cinder relic]

For example

[lucid sparrow]

the dh one is sick i wanna wear that one

[cinder relic]

Or drood

[polar chasm]

im at work can you screenshot DH one

[echo tapir]

lol you can track humanoids in prop hunt xD

[lucid sparrow]

is it still rng what piece u get

[echo tapir]

yes

[worldly shale]

werent for me

[kind axle]

and supposedly if you're too good at hiding it auto dq's you lmao

[timid idol]

thanks bro

[keen belfry]

this seems like a lot of doss damage in a key!

[polar chasm]

THATS WHAT IM TALKIN BOUT

[kind axle]

npnp

[lucid sparrow]

nononono

[keen belfry]

123k dps ST in a key????

[lucid sparrow]

delet

[keen belfry]

kinda a lot!

[vivid vessel]

i mean its fine

[buoyant cosmos]

They're going to shut down the paladin discord, delete

[timid idol]

why do only DHs get the skimpy outfits

[cinder relic]

So you have to do the void assaults, and then you buy a box with the currency, and then it gives you a random piece from the sets

[keen belfry]

i like the niche of blasting ST bosses in key no cap

[vivid vessel]

i had some bosses i did 110k st pre reset

no one cared

[keen belfry]

its a good niche

[vivid vessel]

i think we are fine

[fossil lintel]

What boss is that?

[keen belfry]

i never did more than 105...

[vivid vessel]

gege !

[vivid vessel]

still close

[keen belfry]

vex

[vivid vessel]

so

[keen belfry]

no dmg amp

[timid idol]

ohhh this is what the new currency with the ritual shits give?

[native tinsel]

@vivid vessel do you know? can you help rq

[timid idol]

seems not too hard to farm if you get a group, go challange 5 and get all the debuffs

[cinder relic]

Yeah that or hero track gear

[vivid vessel]

yes

its a cd

[native tinsel]

ty

[kind axle]

br gives us a dmg buff so br before bte = bigger bte and reduced cd on br

[unkempt hemlock]

Are you the same NightShade that was doing prog with my guild and pumping as rogue?????

[native tinsel]

does it still matter to use BR with BF or no

[vivid vessel]

more generally uyou want to put cds on cd before a finisher anywya

cuase outlaw cdr

so

well bf should be enabled first

in aoe

yes

of course

[buoyant cosmos]

lets go with yes lol

[vivid vessel]

@keen belfry imma send both coins in pit i think

[keen belfry]

not crown?

[vivid vessel]

im not reclearing this week

[keen belfry]

i gues su have crests to save to spend so it smakes sense right

[buoyant cosmos]

might want to wait until they say you can't roll dupes again

[vivid vessel]

im waiting for next week tho

[native tinsel]

ty zac

[vivid vessel]

becase

i cant spend

[buoyant cosmos]

unless it isn't a big deal

[unkempt hemlock]

Had a unholy DK named Doritos, you were outlaw for a few raid nights then swapped to sub I think

[vivid vessel]

anyway

crests i mean

[buoyant cosmos]

Yeah that was us

[native tinsel]

@cinder relic mixing monk and rogue void 20th set can give a nice mog btw

[keen belfry]

yes eeventually this was my plan, when i actually dont have any thing to send myth crests on

ill go do dungeon rerolls

but i legit dont have crests, and wont for awhile

[vivid vessel]

tho idk

maybe i send before

[zenith sequoia]

is there a reason i would be simming higher with acrobatic strikes over sleight of hand in dungeon slice, patchwork 1 target 3 min, and patchwork 8 target 2 min?

[vivid vessel]

cuase i have a socket

[zenith sequoia]

stats?

[vivid vessel]

and i wanna socket belt

[fossil lintel]

Wait until they fix it

[vivid vessel]

but i would rahter socket pit belt

than the one from raid

if i get the one from pit

with rolls

[keen belfry]

[vivid vessel]

no but i have that one

everyone has it

i just dont wanna socket that one

[ancient cobalt]

what set dh get from void assault

[vivid vessel]

i would rather socket the one from pit

[unkempt hemlock]

I was comparing logs with yours to try and figure out wtf I was doing wrong lol, I finally am not doing atrocious anymore

[buoyant cosmos]

it's rng

[keen belfry]

decent jackpot uptime eh

[vivid vessel]

the one from pit has more crit

and i think

in max gear

you might wanna fit both the double socket ring from lura

and the nexk

from crown

which is a lot of haste

tho idk i guess fuu sim doesnt have it but

let me check

if its lying

[native tinsel]

my 2 extra rolls gave me dogshit items

[buoyant cosmos]

Happy to help in a sense then 🙂

[buoyant cosmos]

welcome to coins

[jagged plover]

using them when they're bugged is so brave

[buoyant cosmos]

8/10 times it was just gold or artifact power

[halcyon bison]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[halcyon bison]

!up

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[hardy garden]

Main stat still crit/haste right?

[jagged plover]

@cinder relic yo get us on the list brotha

[cinder relic]

Okay

[jolly geyser]

redacted lists

[jagged plover]

they just forgot to nerf dev

oopsie doopsie

[broken tangle]

anywhere i can see what talents you guy run on st?

[buoyant cosmos]

pins / faq

[ancient cobalt]

yall on a couple lists

[echo tapir]

i know this is stupid but it really feels like if wowhead doesnt mention it that it doesnt get fixed

[neat ridge]

whats outlaw like on the new patch?

[fossil lintel]

Very strong, farts all around

[broken tangle]

already checked there but i shouldve been more specific i guess. what i'm really looking for is what do you guys drop to get kir and ks at the same time when playing st

[jagged plover]

more damage debatably less fun

[fading igloo]

Is the damage with the new build somehow really inconsistent or am I just really inconsistent with it?
M+ feels amazing but raid just feels so ass somehow, I constantly run out of energy and feel like if I'm stuck at stage 2 i do nothing

[fossil lintel]

Definitely less fun

[lapis sandal]

1 question, cup the grace need a doble click in proc or is insta?

[neat ridge]

is there much of a discrepency between the specs? i know outlaw technically got a larger buff due to the change but in practice is it actually the best now?

[jagged plover]

depends on the content

[quiet root]

i run out of energy noticeably more often now, is it just a skill issue or is it expected?

[fossil lintel]

Yes outlaw is the best, don't ask in sub channel

[jagged plover]

trickster does have less energy

[keen belfry]

its more variable

in aoe feels the same

ST seems wide variance on like a 3 min pull

[jagged plover]

wasnt there a thing on simulationcraft that showed damage variance or something

[rancid silo]

cant blade flurry spam like in m+ so resource gain isnt as high while in raid

[fading igloo]

so I'm not crazy for feeling like some pulls I just shred and then a lot of the time I just flounder super hard

[harsh cape]

are u guys bonus rolling tonight or still risk of duplicates?

[fading igloo]

like genuinely feel like i do less damage than last week with this new setup

[fossil lintel]

It's one of the basic statistics it calculates

[hoary hornet]

I was feeling the same way with single target, doing less damage than with fatebound

but huge difference in aoe

[keen belfry]

i think u can lowroll to do about the same as an average pull last week

but on average i do more st

but a lot of factors

esp in m+

[fading igloo]

M+ is chefs kiss but raid is currently tilting the fuck out of me

[jagged plover]

oh this is what i meant

[fading igloo]

dunno maybe just not used to it

[jagged plover]

doesn't seem much difference between them tho allegedly

[slim hare]

wait in raid your suppose to pre adr rtb snd

but the cloud is not at the right place

[prisma bramble]

chat, are we cooking?

[slim hare]

what should i do ?

[glass mortar]

run closer to the boss before u do it

[fossil lintel]

Is that from the simc website? I don't think that's up to date

[jagged plover]

o yea it isnt

still has fb ahead