outlaw

[proven ocean]

Uhh

We did some unpopular spec pushes

That were bad but we made it work

[proven ocean]

I think that sparked people not always playing meta classes

[frail veldt]

its not that much less popular than now

2.4 compared to 2.9

[proven ocean]

Unironically s2 tww changed how meta comps work because of me, zac and the others that played melee

Max featured us in the podcast

[craggy barn]

phys comp got pushed onto MDI

which helped

[proven ocean]

Non meta no voice r1 keys

[craggy barn]

that too yea

[proven ocean]

Everyone started playing random things after that

Which is nice

Back then the community was just toxic for playing purely meta classes

Even tho non meta were good

They just had some niche utilities that made things slightly better

[frail veldt]

I feel like were losing the plot

two other top specs also got big buffs

so I dont think outlaw is gona break into the meta quite that strongly

[proven ocean]

Craziest thing we did wasn’t the triple outlaw +30 throne of the tides r1 world

[frail veldt]

less so than DF S3

[proven ocean]

It was the motherlode key we did in s2 tww

[keen belfry]

hahahaha

[frail veldt]

I would be very surprised to see triple outlaw keys

[proven ocean]

Unpopular key but

[frail veldt]

but maybe we see it

[proven ocean]

We pre assigned every mob

[frail veldt]

if someone does a r1 key as triple outlaw

[proven ocean]

Kick and stops

In notes

[frail veldt]

then I will change my mind

[proven ocean]

And no one called anything

[frail veldt]

but outlaw is squishy now

[proven ocean]

We just did them

[frail veldt]

compared to before

so

[crisp elm]

aaare servers not up yet?

[proven ocean]

Imagine pre assigning 50 mobs

And kicking each one perfectly

[jagged plover]

cloud cover gives DR at least

[proven ocean]

Good times

[granite quarry]

can other players see our fart cloud?

[proven ocean]

I hope not

That would be annoying

[jagged plover]

they can currently

[granite quarry]

just want to absolutely shart on everyone tbh

[frail veldt]

ye

[jagged plover]

unless they change it specifically for instances

[granite quarry]

fuck yes

[proven ocean]

I wouldn’t want to see crazy visual clutter from other classes but theres no reason for it to be hidden for them anyway

[reef forge]

how does the cloud work? do the enemies need to be in it or your character?

[frail veldt]

it def makes it hard to see ground effects

[frail veldt]

it gives you a 10s buff

so you just have to touch it once at the start and once before it ends

and you will get full value

[fossil lintel]

It not being hidden for other people is the only way we get it fixed for us as well

[proven ocean]

Thats whatever anyway

Wouldn’t affect top players

[frail veldt]

that doesnt matter

[proven ocean]

Just mid game players

[frail veldt]

they wont change it for htem

[reef forge]

thats kind of nice, i half expected it to be a debuff on enemies

[frail veldt]

they will change it cuz it affects mid game players

[gusty cipher]

i need an appropriate transmog

stinker mog

[dense coral]

What is this

[frail veldt]

if enough people are complaining they will fix it

[proven ocean]

Top players always know what to expect so ye

Doesnt affect us

[jagged plover]

this is my hope
we become fotm
everyone rerolls including some content creators
they realise all the shitty stuff trickster has
it gets fixed
???
profit

[frail veldt]

yeah their opinion doesnt matter

zac doesnt seem happy about it though

tbh

[granite quarry]

wotlk icc set, absolutely perfect

[proven ocean]

I mean dont get me wrong

[desert tendon]

So cute

[proven ocean]

It can kill you even if ur rly good

Its just bad for non experienced players

[desert tendon]

You guys dont tjink outlaw will get a hotfix nerf?

[frail veldt]

@proven ocean

[fossil lintel]

They just buffed the fotm specs as well

[dusty magnet]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/estimated-class-tuning-for-patch-12-0-5-devourer-dh-buffed-again-marks-aoe-381295

[proven ocean]

Thats not too badc

[frail veldt]

I thinkt hey will fix this

if it affects others

[sly anvil]

Oh gee oh golly I sure am I excited to play some outlaw am I right guys

[frail veldt]

its bad enough

to make peopl emad

[jagged plover]

i know but lt me cope

[proven ocean]

U can still see the mechanics

[frail veldt]

im not saying you cant

[proven ocean]

Its not like its fully hidden

So

[frail veldt]

but if youre a non outlaw

and someone uses this

[fossil lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[frail veldt]

and you arent used to it

[proven ocean]

Ye thats gg

[frail veldt]

it will probably tilt some people

[brittle pelican]

so what's our opener for running into a pack now?

[frail veldt]

and they will post

[proven ocean]

Btw

Listen ok

[frail veldt]

ok

[cinder relic]

They nerfed defines visuals for other ppl before so if its bad for other ppl they will also nerf cloud cover

[brittle pelican]

we AR->roll after bfury?

[cinder relic]

It's not like, an insane statement

[proven ocean]

I think they usually reduce these visuals for classes that arent using them

[desert tendon]

That s fun. At least it s not old ks

[frail veldt]

yeah I agree

[frail veldt]

big true

[proven ocean]

But if they dont with that one

Then its fked

Im pretty sure some visuals are less

[fossil lintel]

Problem is our ability to get them to care about our spec if it doesn't affect other people

[sly anvil]

I’m an outlaw player now

[proven ocean]

For classes that arent using them

I just dont remember what

[sly anvil]

Wait now

[proven ocean]

Waiting

[sly anvil]

Bro why is my name not yellow like you guys

Shit

[frail veldt]

yeah apparitions for spriest even

[sly anvil]

One sec team

[frail veldt]

are nerfed for others

[fossil lintel]

He's an impostor

[proven ocean]

Hes a sub rogue

Cba

[sly anvil]

Shit

I’m literally hard locked sub

Someone please help

I want to be an outlaw enjoyer like my friends here

[fossil lintel]

You have been branded, and branded you shall remain

[keen belfry]

i love the spoiler

[gusty cipher]

embrace it brother

[sly anvil]

Okay, what about now

Nah it’s just cooked

Shit

I’ll go back to warrior disc ig

[desert tendon]

@frail veldt

what s the uptime on this cloud?

[frail veldt]

sup

the cloud lasts 10s

[desert tendon]

every adr cast right?

[frail veldt]

the buff from the cloud lasts 10s from last time you were int he cloud(so 20s total)

fazed lasts 10s from last application time which is last time you had the buff so 30s total

unless you reapply it so like proccing UB will send fazed back down to 1 stack

[keen belfry]

60 is da uptime

[desert tendon]

i just wanna know about the smoke animation, but thanks for too much details

[stoic wagon]

Can you rebuff then by going in and out ?

[frail veldt]

so you want to avoid pressing KS during the 10s that you dont have the buff but fazed is still at 3 stacks

[frail veldt]

yes

[frail veldt]

ye every adr

[stoic wagon]

Ok it’s not as dramatic as I thought

[keen belfry]

sim was never able to prove this

[stoic wagon]

We can still move then

[frail veldt]

ah

[keen belfry]

but am curious how its not a dps loss

[desert tendon]

i wish we could just avoid pressing ks at all if you ask me

[frail veldt]

it has to be

[desert tendon]

but u dont

[frail veldt]

theres no way its not

[keen belfry]

maybe trickster is very reliant on coup cdr? idk

makes no sense to me

[frail veldt]

does sim properly have fazed as a damage bonus for bladeflurry?

idk

no way delaying KS 10s doesnt outweighs 16% damage bonus to aoe

[frail veldt]

wild

I legit kinda dont believe it

haha

[keen belfry]

i said same but the sim looks to be working

[frail veldt]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

but like

if that were true im surprised prep doesnt care about KS reset

is it possible the sim isnt clearing the 3 stack

[craggy barn]

awang go factor in prep ks reset

[frail veldt]

from KS?

also when does that dont override trigger cuz it should only apply for those 10s right not for the whole duration of cloud cover

can you link the sim?

[keen belfry]

just speculating but id just wager it cares more about bte reset

[frail veldt]

yeah maybe the 3 never overlap

so KS is just 3rd behind bte and BR

[keen belfry]

with snd back as opener, you are guaranteed 2 supercharged BTES

with prep

which have like 60% reset chance

supercharged bte is more important now

[frail veldt]

yeah yuge

[thorny zinc]

i have prep on my old snd button its so over

[dense coral]

There is no way UH dk got a 10% buff in AoE, right?

[dull ginkgo]

Where did you find this? 😮

[tribal cosmos]

OUTLAW IS COMING HOMEEEEE

13 % BUFF

zac is top key in the world already

and now theyre gonna be insta nerfed

gg

[cinder relic]

Its probs gonna depend on like, speific target counts etc

[tribal cosmos]

wait

[cinder relic]

but like, it will be better

[tribal cosmos]

why is unholy 10% better

im about to report blizzard to BBB

this is abuse

[karmic gust]

they obv needed it

[tribal cosmos]

bro

BDK got nerfed

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

[plain stirrup]

why do we want to finish at 6+ for trickster and not 5 now? for cp

[gaunt phoenix]

Fatebound just happened to like 5cps for coins

[icy cedar]

is outlaw new meta now, can i swap back from ass

(for keys)

[upper surge]

Sin forever

[placid ocean]

No, you will always be ass

[dense coral]

only SL, DB is unchanged

[icy cedar]

rip

[frail veldt]

!ban larias

[upper surge]

🙁

[proven ocean]

Larias u suck balls

[gaunt phoenix]

why bully lapras

[upper surge]

They dmd me harassing me so I blocked them and they decided to come here to continue to harass me

[proven ocean]

Because !

?

[gaunt phoenix]

Should ban them all it seems

[placid ocean]

If you're looking for a meta spec I recommend playing not-rogue

[icy cedar]

how is new trickster on prio also, when I don't play sin in keys, the big mobs in packs live forever, it's like sin is the only prio spec in the game currently

[tribal cosmos]

outlaw is coming home

[frail veldt]

ngl

most exciting thing

[tribal cosmos]

outlaw is coming

[frail veldt]

coming

[tribal cosmos]

home

https://klipy.com/gifs/thats-a-lot-of-damage-2

[frail veldt]

wow is getting

[proven ocean]

Its cool to send cringe stuff and then delete it right after

[frail veldt]

PROP HUNT

[tribal cosmos]

bro

what

[proven ocean]

“Harass”

[tribal cosmos]

who fucking cares

[icy cedar]

prop hunt better have a r.io scores

[tribal cosmos]

the 3 pixels on the screen i gotta choose one bro

[lime lake]

ok but we can choose whether weapons sheath on back or hip

[frail veldt]

I thought you could yeah

[magic shuttle]

That is an insane change

[lime lake]

its being added this patch yes

[frail veldt]

back sheath all day

[magic shuttle]

Hell yeah

[frail veldt]

bis

[tribal cosmos]

its literally physically impossible

to back sheathe

with the game's sheats

sheaths

[icy cedar]

i just want to mog guns to my BtE or Pistol Shot

they definitely have the tech

[placid ocean]

Great for travel. Utterly impractical for actually drawing your weapon though

[tribal cosmos]

ittl just have to tp out of our scabbard

you can cut a slit down half way through the shaft

maybe 75%

[magic shuttle]

At least you can mog the pistol animations

[tribal cosmos]

and then ittl become realistical

[vivid vessel]

@random stirrup

[frail veldt]

I mean if youre gona sheath it out before battle anyway

who cares

[vivid vessel]

ALERT

[swift creek]

hey is outlaw going to be really good after today or ? hows it looking ?

[icy cedar]

like if a warlock can give weapons to their doomguards

[frail veldt]

no one wants a sheath dangling at your side

[karmic gust]

is there any way to make fart cloud less visible ?

[frail veldt]

while you fight

[vivid vessel]

ALMOST GOT THE 3 TICKS

[frail veldt]

0/10

[vivid vessel]

IN

[icy cedar]

huh we can?

[frail veldt]

yeah theres a few glyphs

they are

[icy cedar]

oh glyphs

[frail veldt]

very not noticeable

[icy cedar]

i mean real mogging

[tribal cosmos]

can we log in

or

[magic shuttle]

Gotta take what you can get

[proven ocean]

?

What ticks

[icy cedar]

i want old killing spree back so i can kill myself

the new one just isn't risky enough

[worldly shale]

based

[icy cedar]

no thrill in pushing it

[spare flare]

Sub is stronger after buff?

or outlaw gonna be better

[worldly shale]

OUTLAW!!!!!

[worldly shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1048716096217284653/1464342131429871676/killin_pee.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741275386188529734/1372656620034592869/3882ade1b2e0cab5893c24ec180af244.gif

[random stirrup]

ya but its sooo hard

to get the clones in

[proven ocean]

Rhldd

Ir a sub plauer…

Ur

[random stirrup]

yes

[icy cedar]

glorious

[gusty cipher]

iconic

[proven ocean]

Why bo outlaw..

n

o

[random stirrup]

I will be outlaw once beloren dies

im coming home

[proven ocean]

Nice

Wish i played outlaw changes seem fire

[gaunt phoenix]

[proven ocean]

No time for wow

Unless i lose my job then im back

I probably wont tho because im a workaholic i guess

[normal aurora]

Hey folks, do we KS inside AR so long as BTE is on CD? ST and AOE

[proven ocean]

I like to push myself to the limit on everything i do

Unlucky

[icy cedar]

i despise KiR

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[icy cedar]

can we petition for the talent to be deleted

[proven ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348493538538553387/1384364785105375405/GtVh62pWoAQwf6F.gif

[gaunt phoenix]

But you can cancel KS if you're about to cap energy during the channel

[worldly shale]

are our energy problems

worse

now with trickster

[proven ocean]

Idk

[normal aurora]

So would it be worth to only KS when lowish energy?

[proven ocean]

I think energy problems are fine imo

Its fine to have downtimes

[cinder relic]

Slightly

[normal aurora]

oh wait, we get the other benefits from KS.. so probably not better to hold it too long

[proven ocean]

I might be cooked but idm downtimes

Gives you time to think

But too much downtime is bad

Like the subtlety downtime

Idk if sub still has downtime but

Its rly bad if its the same

[frail veldt]

I think if downtimes are purely from rng and not from actual choices in your rotation then it can feel bad though

[gaunt phoenix]

No, you still hit ks for the unseen blades

Sometimes you might cancel it immediately

[proven ocean]

Few seconds is ok but

[random stirrup]

idk downtime on sub is ok i like it

[proven ocean]

Constant downtime hell no

[random stirrup]

downtime on outlaw is big depresso

very sad

[frail veldt]

cuz its rng driven

its not part of the rotation really

its just badluck

[proven ocean]

Ye rng driven downtime is just ass ngl

Bad design

[normal aurora]

Yea i thought so.. feared this might be the case. What a great design -_-
ty for the info

[frail veldt]

if downtime is predictable its not a big deal

[random stirrup]

well and it feels like you're just losing all your buffs and momentum

[frail veldt]

yeah but if it always happened at the same point in your rotation

it wouldnt even be annoying

cuz youd expect it

[proven ocean]

Ya

[frail veldt]

like KS channel doesnt bother me that much

its just part of the rotation

[random stirrup]

idk it kinda takes you out of the flow a little bit no?

its not that annoying i agree

[frail veldt]

it does sure

[gaunt phoenix]

Id like KS to 1. Allow auto attacks and 2. Pause AR

[frail veldt]

I dont like it during adr

yeah what solo said

outside of adr

I dont mind KS at all

[normal aurora]

how much of a loss is letting KS channel?

[gaunt phoenix]

0.3%

[keen belfry]

it pausing zero in and basically energy gain is MEH

[proven ocean]

I ordered light enhancement kits to cover my 2/4 ram slots

[worldly shale]

Pause ar is goated

[gaunt phoenix]

KS is generally worth to channel, the people just want to cancel it somehow

[proven ocean]

Cant wait

[glass grove]

Shantiana has requested that u unblock her and respond to her DM 🙂

[gaunt phoenix]

I don't care

[near rock]

Tell her enjoy the ban

[proven ocean]

Is shantiana actually blocked by solo?

Thats crazy

Solo barely blocks anyone lmao

If ur blocked by solo you deserve it big time

[random stirrup]

this person is in my guild even though we keep requesting they be removed :/

[proven ocean]

No way

[near rock]

That’s crazy lore

[proven ocean]

wait tell us more

wtf

[frail veldt]

spill

the

[random stirrup]

ye i dont know the full story

[frail veldt]

tea

[random stirrup]

i barely know anything

just that they are bad!

they arent a raider or anything just social role

[proven ocean]

who is shantiana anyway

i heard that name before

not sure from where

[obsidian karma]

thoughts that I gotta have a seizure on the keyboard 90+ cpm just to compete with 3 button retlols?

[hearty aurora]

that's half of the fun

[worldly shale]

what the helly

big lore

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel ye dont host shantiana again noob

i just learned everything about shantiana in 2 minutes

u guys dont wanna know

lmao

its actually cooked

[glass grove]

I tried

[slim hare]

shantiana used recklessness pot

after zac hosted her

[glass grove]

Fwiw, she’s actually completely changed and is no longer brazy block bitty

[slim hare]

as outlaw didnt understand why

[gaunt phoenix]

Last I tried it wasnt ahead of light

[cinder relic]

I heard she also totally changed after she got banend initially

[gaunt phoenix]

Good for her!

[keen belfry]

what is this lore i missed

sounds like she shant get what she wants from solo!

😄

iana

😄

[gaunt phoenix]

good one

[keen belfry]

i wish i knew more wow lore

[cinder relic]

She got banned and then made like 40 different alt accounts to troll the discord and spam porn with

[vivid vessel]

@random stirrup

WHADEHELLY

[cinder relic]

thats abt it

[frail veldt]

oh dafuq

[keen belfry]

banger

[frail veldt]

wild

[wide flare]

pog

[random stirrup]

wait stop ur gapping me

[deep sequoia]

What boss is this on?

[vivid vessel]

[vivid vessel]

beloren

[jagged plover]

u gotta respect that tbh

[vivid vessel]

@random stirrup my 2nd one gonna be very scuffed tho i think

im not hodling anything

i cant

nothing is dying

adds are alive

a lot

dont even know if i can triple dance it

[random stirrup]

ye but think about this right

[vivid vessel]

did you treiple dance the last one ?

[random stirrup]

i prob have to send blades between eggs

[vivid vessel]

wait what

no way lol

wdym

no

[random stirrup]

you can send at 3:30 and then blades last 15s of second burn

[vivid vessel]

stfu bro

[random stirrup]

i didnt look in detail but we might not have damage to phase him

[proven ocean]

theres alot more than that behind the part of this discord

but yea

[meager idol]

no shot its actually 13%, who the fuck made up numbers again?

[random stirrup]

if that is the case its giga cooked because neither of my 2 on uses are available at the 330 blades

[proven ocean]

thats a good conclusion i guess of what she does

[cinder relic]

I know it all

[proven ocean]

o

[cinder relic]

I'm just not going to spread drama

[proven ocean]

i see

[cinder relic]

Just the basics

[proven ocean]

ye

[jagged plover]

it's real bro

fartcloud unlocks outlaw

[proven ocean]

she isn't as crazy as some of the girls on eu tho

[fossil lintel]

it's actually more in aoe

[proven ocean]

people go crazy just to get boosted in M+

[cinder relic]

Especially when she spent a year targeting me specifically when it came to the harassment

So just keep it at that

[meager idol]

outlaw sims were biggest bait since BFA you aint telling me this is true

[jagged plover]

and it's 15% dr!!!

LOGIN!!1

[rain parcel]

is MOGA done today?

[fossil lintel]

have you seen what the talent do?

[random stirrup]

something tells me from what she wrote in our guild chat (i will petition again to remove her) that she has not changed on that front

[fossil lintel]

It's like 50% uptime on a 24% damage boost + 150% crit damage for builders

[proven ocean]

ye im surprised she didnt get banned on twitch if someone reported some of the things she constantly does

[near rock]

guy living rent free

[lethal oak]

Im still a mod of her twitch channel from years ago, haven't seen her in a while but I passed through the other day and she seems more tame now

[proven ocean]

idk how a streamer can get away with such craziness

[slim hare]

@keen belfry smokescreen WA share?

[cinder relic]

When you have haters you know you've made it

[errant magnet]

Ok so 13% is a big relative number but how much behind was it?

[proven ocean]

i mean idk how people can hate you tho

[frail veldt]

thats what I keep tellin myself

[jagged plover]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

[proven ocean]

genuinely speaking

[cinder relic]

I think theres a lot of valid reasons to hate me

[proven ocean]

we meme alot about you having cooked takes but

we all have cooked takes anyway

[cinder relic]

But thats to be expected with having an abrassive personality

[frail veldt]

hate is a strong word

[cinder relic]

I'm not that bothered by that fact

[slim hare]

ofc you dont complain enough

thats why we bad

[jagged plover]

i hate when guy is enjoying the game because he's a positive guy

pisses me off

[frail veldt]

same

[jagged plover]

big time

[proven ocean]

idk i like you alot personally u seem chill in podcasts

[random stirrup]

i unironically did not like guy when i first joined

[keen belfry]

foreverguy is not my biggest hater, but he is one

[random stirrup]

[proven ocean]

unlucky we dont get more of those podcasts anymore

[keen belfry]

we have a love hate relationsip

[lethal oak]

She did always have a big problem with Guy though lol

[near rock]

not being able to play OW with you because you're always banned is one

[random stirrup]

we came around though

[frail veldt]

not even 100 parsing hate meters?

[ashen void]

i miss the podcast

[proven ocean]

dw we all hate you gnawa ❤️

[keen belfry]

they hanus cause they anus

[cinder relic]

[proven ocean]

wtf

[craggy barn]

zac

what da helly'

yall gapping meta comp rn

[vivid vessel]

i know

[craggy barn]

like smoking the timer wtf

[cinder relic]

Exactly

[random stirrup]

i actually remember the exact moment i came around, and it was the gn drama

good times

[cinder relic]

LOLOL

[worn patrol]

yo does anyone know if you have use distract in your rotation now with the new cloud cover talent?

[cinder relic]

what a time to change teams

[ashen void]

oh from tww s1?

[random stirrup]

ye in nerubar

[leaden sonnet]

No, because it doesnt interact with distract at all anymore

[ashen void]

hahah

[worn patrol]

ahh I see thanks

[craggy barn]

gn picked up shindig to replace guy and remove the stain of the controversy frfr

[random stirrup]

my friends have friends in gn so we did a lot of deep diving into the drama and guy was unfortunately a bastion of morality

not like this

[lime lake]

[ashen void]

ForeverGoodGuy

[patent mirage]

word

[hot onyx]

We should have some friendly competitions at the dummy. Race to 10m damage etc.

[cinder relic]

There are a lot of villians in this guild

I am the last SJW

[hot onyx]

Up for the challenge @cinder relic

[near rock]

sensations

[buoyant cosmos]

Is Ugly still around?

[random stirrup]

a bit concerning my homies are on a first name basis with him

[cinder relic]

ofc

[near rock]

raided with him and a lot of gn peeps in classic a while back

[buoyant cosmos]

He was fun

[near rock]

lets just say they love some words

big fan of the dictionary

[random stirrup]

that is also what i have heard

from firsthand accounts

[pastel cloud]

should i loot vault as sub for dagger? (got bad one)

[stiff idol]

Is combat back on the menu? Servers in NA still down ?

[tranquil folio]

servers still down in NA

[stiff idol]

Looking forward to see EU server crash in a moment

[gaunt phoenix]

gamers and their words

[cinder relic]

I can only imagine what sort of rumors get spun starting from either the old uldir stuff or the stuff from nerubar, but there are no slurs allowed

[random stirrup]

I should stop saying things I can't confirm myself is the real lesson here

[cinder relic]

Its w.e

Its the same as ppl saying hunters sandbag their sims and hide htem behind paywalls

Ppl just love to make shit up

[low glade]

is GN having a memorial day sale?

[light kernel]

@keen belfry what are u upgrading weap or trinket since u got crafted weaps?

[random stirrup]

I haven't personally spoken to any of them myself i just know what people have told me

[buoyant cosmos]

You can upgrade crafted weps

[cinder relic]

Of course, we offer a discount on stolen lockouts (THIS IS A JOKE)

[clever river]

how tf would that even work?

[random stirrup]

will i finally receive a trinket from my vault this time mr guy?

[near rock]

oh they've def turned a big leaf since back when I played with them on classic

[random stirrup]

or am i doomed

[cinder relic]

Ur doomed sorry

[buoyant cosmos]

latch hook

[low glade]

watchu fishing for?

the gays?

[buoyant cosmos]

monkey paw curls

[light kernel]

ok pog

[keen belfry]

probs weap

[random stirrup]

anything usable that isnt a renown trinket

[keen belfry]

but ill wait

[random stirrup]

gaze good

[light kernel]

still rocking 2x weap emblemish?

[keen belfry]

yuh

[random stirrup]

im kinda feeling alleria trinket for the outlaw swap for lura

[light kernel]

idk is trickster changing enchants etc

[keen belfry]

i want saldbar weap tho

or something

[random stirrup]

I think itll be in there

[low glade]

idk what I should upgrade first, my dagger or my 1h

we're progging alleria, and I'm assuming sub is the move

but outlaw looks juiced for keys

idk man

[random stirrup]

sub is the move on alleria and beloren

[low glade]

how often do we get the upgrade thing

is it 1x per week?

i'll probs prio raid gearing over keys for now, at least during prog

[lavish siren]

@vivid vessel

[jagged plover]

this bitchass tomelvis doesnt tell me anything

[random stirrup]

Tompelvis better

[sullen nimbus]

Chatters why is outlaw getting buffed when it is currently part of the #1 key comp?

I don’t understand, the spec is very good???

[jagged plover]

zac paid for the rank 1 boost

[formal knot]

tompelvis comeback?

[jagged plover]

real & true

[lethal oak]

[vivid vessel]

@random stirrup NAH

[tall sundial]

Do you guys think it’s worth to Pick all three blind CD talents ?

[vivid vessel]

YOU EVER SEEN THIS ONE RYLLDER

[random stirrup]

ok but ur cheating wtf

wait deploy cope

[neon rock]

Been doing some rough math workup on the new changes and found outlaw rogue changes to be new top damage. I dont know how the new changes will actually affect M+, but id love some crique on this on why its right/wrong.
https://imgur.com/a/9IDvSR3

[random stirrup]

its mythic gaze highroll

not fair

[buoyant cosmos]

he paid for that with blood diamonds

[cinder relic]

Yeah its probs gonna be real good

[nova sinew]

you cant just average the increase to st/aoe because a lot of specs have big differences in the talents they use for st/aoe

[gentle wasp]

No ?

[sullen nimbus]

It’s in the top key?

[nova sinew]

if unholy can run a build with bad st that does 8% more aoe then that is mutually exclusive to running their best st build

[sullen nimbus]

Very good!

[glass grove]

The same as taking to twitter saying Humble purposefully exploited silken court

[gentle wasp]

No ?

[glass grove]

Ppl just love to make shit up

[uncut ginkgo]

tricks for sure now

[sullen nimbus]

What’s that then

[gentle wasp]

War Arm Carried

[unique fulcrum]

1 person = all rogues

[nova sinew]

who are you talking to on the phone cocoa

while you shit post in outlaw channel

[bright crane]

You gets ready for outlaw meta

[sullen nimbus]

I’m on the phone with my wife while she tells me about her day

[bright crane]

Petko said it’s coming!!!

Ol stonks 📈

[pastel cloud]

any rotation change exept kiling spree?

[hot onyx]

I saw 3+ on KIR

[unique fulcrum]

never use spender at 5

[hot onyx]

I missed that

[vivid vessel]

@random stirrup

i fumbled last damage amp

knew it would happen !

i did sec tech > dance on dance after blades

• i forgot that i wanted to fit the second sec tech in 2nd dance

burst first damage amp was alright

[random stirrup]

you killed?

I see my future and it is bright

I will parse even lower than this i promise

[native tinsel]

where are u raiding @random stirrup

[random stirrup]

soma

[fallen oar]

Are there any raid parses available for OL rn? I am trying to decide if I switch back to sub from 'Sin or to Outlaw?

[native tinsel]

server is not even up yet brother

[near rock]

nothing until later since patch isnt up

[gray summit]

Hello My American boyyyyyz

[fallen oar]

damn, was hoping like maybe EU or something idk lol

[quiet ore]

30m left in scheduled downtime

[gray summit]

So the feeling of the new spec in raid

[native tinsel]

EU is always later than US

[near rock]

30m left until extension

[sly anvil]

What about now

Bro still sub wtf

[vivid vessel]

@near rock how is outlaw since buff ?

[near rock]

its insane bro I'm rank 1 on beloren

type shit

[vivid vessel]

huge !

[near rock]

massive !

[valid hound]

hey guys, if u cast coup de grace and u immediately cast some other spell afterwards - does it cancel coupe de grace? it feels like it hits like 3 times with coupe in a row, but this gets cancelled by the next spell

[gray summit]

But wirh the smoke

U can oplay well

[gaunt phoenix]

No it doesnt

[gray summit]

On beloren for example ???

[desert tendon]

a boosted zac as usual

[valid hound]

kk thx

[gray summit]

Because you have to move a lot ?

[stuck magnet]

With the Outlaw changes does it make it better than sub and sin?

[sullen nimbus]

Yeah idk you guys are complaining about unholy this devourer that but it seems to me like outlaw is pretty good already???????

[cinder relic]

Outlaw is played in high keys by 1 singular player

Devourer and UDK are played by the entire high key pushing community

[wide coral]

by 1 french player

[opaque zenith]

Where can I find new Olaw trickster build?

[nova sinew]

we are getting an aoe stop too

[static crescent]

where fart pics

[vivid vessel]

it is wtf ???????

[fleet plinth]

how is outlaw for beginner rogues? lol

[keen cedar]

Very true, and if he doesnt have a team for himself he would be on 18s

[native tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/dc-dc-comics-comics-comic-comicbooks-gif-9220203863894404856

[sullen nimbus]

Play rate is not the same as specialization strength

[gray summit]

Speak well

[vivid vessel]

ok common

[random stirrup]

nah without his team he'd be stuck in 12s

[gray summit]

I am French

[sullen nimbus]

There’s nuance to these takes foreverguy

[vivid vessel]

ok but im just a one trick

cocoa

i played outlaw

in s3 tww

[radiant wyvern]

John Outlaw vs the world

[vivid vessel]

we did the same level of keys

as r1 keys

[sullen nimbus]

Ok but you did a key and got rank 1

[vivid vessel]

that season aswell

[sullen nimbus]

Therefore the spec is fine

[vivid vessel]

do you think outlaw was fine in tww

s3

[sullen nimbus]

Yes

[gray summit]

Guys come on

[vivid vessel]

it prolly was the worse spec in the game lol

you cant say yes

[native tinsel]

its just ragebait

[vivid vessel]

ask any one

[low glade]

cocoa baiting you hard rn

[gray summit]

Hiw we will stay in a fuxking smoke

[vivid vessel]

that isnt stupid braindead

[gray summit]

On beloren phase

[sullen nimbus]

No I think it was pretty good

[keen cedar]

Hahahahah not cuz you are bad or something, its just you wouldnt get invited in pugs thats all

[gray summit]

I am so mad

[vivid vessel]

in s3 tww?

are you stupid

[wide coral]

did you read the talent?

[gray summit]

I lnow i will have to play sin or sub fuk

[sullen nimbus]

You did the same key level as r1 you said it yourself

Must not be that bad

[vivid vessel]

ok

this guy is just braindead

all good

[wide coral]

it lingers for 10 seconds after leaving the smoke

[gray summit]

10 sec

But i lost

10 sec

Its huge

[wide coral]

you can leave and dip your toes back for another 10 secs

its not that deep bro

[gray summit]

The smoke during 10 sec no ?

[jagged plover]

it lasts 10 seconds when you touch it, you can press adr, leave for 9 seconds, step in for 1 second

thatis full uptime

[gray summit]

Wait what ?

That’s awesome omg

[jagged plover]

it's a 10s buff that lingers

it's also big as fuck anyway

[sullen nimbus]

You did rank 1 keys, even if it actually was the worst spec in the game, obviously that didn’t matter much

Therefore it was fine

[vivid vessel]

you are stupid

dont ping me

[jagged plover]

it's only gonna be really cringe when your tank is doing a long ass pull in M+

[sullen nimbus]

@vivid vessel cope

[vivid vessel]

i dont speak with braindead npcs

[lavish shoal]

@vivid vessel

[wide coral]

going to put the 2 hooks to good use

[sullen nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-npc-gif-18081028125043451729

[lavish shoal]

looks like FULL CRIT SWAP was the play

[vivid vessel]

ye

[lavish shoal]

[vivid vessel]

always was cuh

[cinder relic]

I agree, but would you genuinely look at me right now and say "Outlaw is perfectly fine, it should get no buffs"

[sullen nimbus]

That’s not what I said

[slow pagoda]

Yes

[lavish shoal]

how are the servers still down btw

[vivid vessel]

he thought it was good in s3 tww bro

[lavish shoal]

thats insane

[cinder relic]

What would you say specifically then

[vivid vessel]

dont bother about it

[sullen nimbus]

I just said the spec is clearly able to perform the same as devourer and unholy

[low glade]

last minute outlaw nerfs

[gray summit]

Outlaw deserve an aura biff

[low glade]

to compensate for cloud cover

[sullen nimbus]

So why complain about those two

[gray summit]

Even thus fuxking smoke

[jagged plover]

i reckon everyones playing dev and uhdk because they really like them

not because they're good

[cinder relic]

Because both are stronger, and also raid exists

[jagged plover]

[sullen nimbus]

We must all unite against the real shaytan, augmentation

[native tinsel]

boomkins

[sullen nimbus]

Wizard lizards must go

[native tinsel]

we hate boomkins

[unique fulcrum]

1 outlaw does it, 30000 unholy and dh's = outlaw is clearly as good as those 2

[keen cedar]

No its not, cuz you need special comp to be atleast decent

[lavish shoal]

[sullen nimbus]

Okay but with that special comp it is able to no? Nothing was wrong with what I said

[cinder relic]

I mean hes not entierly wrong

[placid ocean]

Yeah true. If it's a good outlaw vs a bad unh / devourer

[jagged plover]

i mean no one doing that level of key is actually bad

[merry harness]

@vivid vessel Did you see tetles called you boosted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EimqsST8xA&t=1860s

[vivid vessel]

if you think like that any spec in the game is capable of doing r1 keys then ?

so whats the point

[sullen nimbus]

That’s very debatable

[vivid vessel]

of tuning

lol

[jagged plover]

this is like challenger players in league calling gms bad

it's just not a real perspective

[lavish shoal]

so glad i tuned into outlaw channel today

[jagged plover]

it's just shit people say to larp idk

[vivid vessel]

bro ..

[lavish shoal]

this is so entertaining

[cunning mica]

hows outlaw on st? thinking about making the switch back since shadowlands 😮

[gaunt phoenix]

always someone that one-tricks the shit champs to challenger

[glass mortar]

nah as a fellow 0.001% of the game enjoyer, all those lowbies in the other 0.999% of the top 1% are straight trash

ngl

they should go find another game or something

[jagged plover]

real

[gaunt phoenix]

outlaw st in keys is good

[cinder relic]

Rank 1? maybe? probably more than people think

[vivid vessel]

no im saying guy

[cinder relic]

I just dont think the lense in which hes viewing the game is very useful

[vivid vessel]

i can tell you

that any spec in the game

can do actual r1

keys

i did it in tww s3

i dont think any spec was as bad as outlaw in keys

in s3 tww

[glass mortar]

ye i was gunna say if anyone has ever proved that it was u last season

[vivid vessel]

and we still did r1 keys

same level as r1 keys at least

[glass mortar]

when u were arguably getting straight backpacked by ur teammates

both doing 20% more overall then u

[vivid vessel]

we got r1 priory a few times

[glass mortar]

because outlaw was dumpster

[vivid vessel]

so like

to me

any spec in the game

can do r1 keys

at any point

[sullen nimbus]

Why complain then

[vivid vessel]

if they are willing to do it

[glass mortar]

and its not like they were playing the meta

[sullen nimbus]

Useless waste of energy

[vivid vessel]

doint ping me you braindead monkey

[wide coral]

if you were to say outlaw is viable and competitive at that level sure we can agree but saying performs the same its a straight up lie

[sullen nimbus]

Can he say that mods?

[jagged plover]

ya i mean why would u want your spec to be as good as other specs

[vivid vessel]

i can cause its true

[sullen nimbus]

So rude…

[jagged plover]

doing less damage for no reason is definitely fun

[agile orchid]

blizzard buffing the meta specs

[gaunt phoenix]

be civil

[keen cedar]

atleast US cant still try it xD

[stuck magnet]

With the Outlaw changes is it still behind sub and sin?

[agile orchid]

they did the same thing in tww season 1

[thick vigil]

lmfao

[native tinsel]

I do not understand this approach at all. Are you a player that prefers a class? Or are you one of those players that is FOTM for prog?

[vivid vessel]

ban him for bad opinion then

[agile orchid]

but back then people did protests in LFG

[vivid vessel]

there is a limit to free speech

[lucid sparrow]

Ur getting ragebaited zac its so easy to ragebait frenchies

[vivid vessel]

ty

appreicate it

[sullen nimbus]

@vivid vessel what’s the point

So angry over pixels for nothing

[cinder relic]

Yeah I agree

[lucid sparrow]

o no he pinged him again

[lavish shoal]

LMAO

[lucid sparrow]

gg

[keen belfry]

ye wow is cool this way, if you have a group of ppl who really really understand their class strengths u can do r1 anything. cuz u can change so much

[lavish shoal]

BRO IS ASKING FOR IT

HAHAHAHAHA

[jolly geyser]

[radiant wyvern]

its fine, it will keep the heat off of law

[wide coral]

we cannot tolerate the intolerable

[thick vigil]

welp

[molten heath]

Hi, anyone using Ayije CDM ? I can't seem to find out how to see the Resources bars (energy and CP) even tho there are enabled, am I missing something ?

[timid portal]

what if KS stops adr while channeling and add 0.5s to the adr duration per tic

[glass mortar]

wtf... zac wheres my vault...

it has a gaze waiting in it zac....

[gaunt phoenix]

it should pause AR like uhuh did

[glass mortar]

i just got home from work y servers still down

[jagged plover]

if u dont want your class buffed to a reasonable level of competiveness you just like being in the cuck chair on the meters

[thick vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[jagged plover]

change my mind

[placid ocean]

He's not mad at pixels. He's mad at a misguided opinion. I just scrolled up a bit and it looks like nothing you've said bears any real weight.

[native tinsel]

what did i do now

[sullen nimbus]

Bears are really heavy actually

[carmine mountain]

What did i miss besides the 20k people asking if its good enough now to drop sin or sub

[lavish shoal]

[lucid sparrow]

this chat has been so fucking active today or am i tripping @gaunt phoenix

[sullen nimbus]

Polar bears are one of the heaviest land mammals

[vivid vessel]

im not even mad its funny

im chilling in front of lura rn

[glass mortar]

zac got ragebaited by someone with a bleah opinion

[placid ocean]

Do you know what a homonym is?

[glass mortar]

W ragebait

[vivid vessel]

about to pull as outlaw !!!

[jagged plover]

they all saw 13% and came running

[sullen nimbus]

I’m married sorry

[still matrix]

where the heck are us servers

[gaunt phoenix]

its the smoke wars

[placid ocean]

I'll take that as a no

[lavish shoal]

damn coco is a good troll!

[near rock]

NA's been down all day people are itchin

[lavish shoal]

nice one

[glass mortar]

my gaze.... its so c l o s e zac

wher servers.....

[lavish shoal]

oh yeah weran

[random stirrup]

no its not

[glass mortar]

its right there in the vault...

[random stirrup]

extendo on the way

[lavish shoal]

im about to give you this gaze

[glass mortar]

why u say that ryld...

[gray summit]

Wait

[lavish shoal]

my gaze is coming for you weran

[still matrix]

lol na servers going live same as eu this reset lol

[placid ocean]

👀

[thick vigil]

is the only thing new to track fartcloud?

[gaunt phoenix]

you will roll and fail to get gaze

[jolly geyser]

Zac is getting good trinket in vault

[gray summit]

No outlaw was on the Mdi comp rigjt V

???

In tww s3

[hoary wave]

just wox with pgc i think

not sure

[gray summit]

So zac is right

100%

[thorny zinc]

didnt wox also play the other specs in mdi

[sullen nimbus]

What about “the rank 1 key right now has an outlaw rogue in it” is an opinion

[hoary wave]

yeah

[sullen nimbus]

I guess my opinion determines the leaderboards…

[lucid sparrow]

Im getting ppl tellibg me outlaw is broken cause "look tomelvis" and i lowkey just feel like crashing out at that moment

[gray summit]

Your opinion sucks

Because you are doing

A common sense

[lavish shoal]

what is even your point being here

[gray summit]

Of an unique example

[cinder relic]

Stop getting ragebaited by obvious ragebait

Plz

[lavish shoal]

elucidate me please

[jagged plover]

"doing a" has to be eliminated from speech patterns immediately

we cannot allow that

[gleaming reef]

server is up btw

[keen belfry]

wish me luck

[native tinsel]

server up boys

[carmine mountain]

YO

[buoyant cosmos]

in EU

[sullen nimbus]

Just that it’s useless to complain about dk and devourer when outlaw is obviously pretty good too and that we should all refocus onto complaining about augmentation

[native tinsel]

stop bickering

[sly hearth]

sorry but is it only change that really give 13% of damage?

[gleaming reef]

US

[craggy barn]

ITS BROKEN
points to the one exceptional player
amongst the sea of mediocrity

[wide coral]

ITS UP

[jagged plover]

no, trickster talent

[fossil lintel]

the trickster change under assa is actually outlaw

[jagged plover]

it's not explicitly under outlaw they fuckedup formatting

[dull geyser]

so we only KIR on +3 rolls now?

[lavish shoal]

i mean theres a certain level where complaining doesnt really do anything but at the same time

[icy cedar]

i swear if you're lying

[low glade]

you're baiting man

[inland cairn]

The trickster change is under assassin for some reason

[icy cedar]

IM IN

[wide coral]

you may not get in

[lavish shoal]

outlaw has been in a pretty bad state all patch

[wide coral]

but it is up

lmao

[cunning mica]

its up lol

[lavish shoal]

i see where youre coming from tho

[lucid sparrow]

ur game is live

fuck off all of u

too much yapping

[keen belfry]

wish me luc on vaultok?

[jagged plover]

dont tell me what to do

[formal knot]

game not live for another 7 or 8 hours

[glass mortar]

ur so cute i wanna pat u on the head 🥰

[formal knot]

why lying

[keen belfry]

but i have to DH vault first

[lavish shoal]

goodluck

[fossil lintel]

gl on vault everyone

[glass mortar]

u could never be what zeross was sorry

[icy cedar]

STUCK ON LOADING SCREEEEEEEN

[hoary wave]

gl!

[glass mortar]

time for G A Z E

[hoary wave]

gaze of the goonseer

[low glade]

nice man

[fossil lintel]

same

[glass mortar]

theres only enough gazes for the first 50 people to login

better hurry up man

they r gunna be all gone

[lucid sparrow]

@vivid vessel r u ok bro dont let the sub main get to u

[plain portal]

too late they're already gone gg

no more gazes for the rest of us

[timid portal]

@keen belfry where stream from fart cloud?

[craggy barn]

EZ

[daring yoke]

Are we finally getting invited this patch

[thick vigil]

huge

[keen belfry]

DH banger

[carmine mountain]

talk about being lucky

gg

[daring yoke]

Wtf

[gray summit]

GG BUDDY

[craggy barn]

i farted and got it

[patent lion]

@vivid vessel the time has come

[vivid vessel]

im good

[placid ocean]

The single outlaw rogue that's pushing high keys is an outlier, and shouldn't be considered.

[vivid vessel]

im progging last boss as outlaw !