#outlaw
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u were right i am pretty sure i changed to it
all my cloaks are radiance while sacred toll happens
i die anyway though
just to dot
like paladins is genuinely the worst rogue fight ive ever seen and its not close like any rogue spec on there is like outlaw tier on dimensius
you take infinite more damage because feint dont work and you're a melee getting stormed
u do 0 damage
Doesn’t cloak have some weird.2 sec of cleanse something immunity thingy?
the brief period of magical immunity does block raidance though
ye prolly
after that it is 100% miss chance
nothing pierce that
and the radiance cannot miss
thats big cloak thing
therefor pierces cloak
big boy cloak
meanwhile stuff with pierces immunites(the soak) will always pierces cloak
even if used in the first 1 second
Omg we are getting buffed?? Is real? Like, is not a dream?
only an accident but yes
Good to know. And we have cheat to check if it doesn’t
i dont think so
because i think a lot of wow tuning
is purely accidental
there is many instances where they would fix a bug and not compensate with a buff
or a nerf
also this isnt a bug thats just the dev didnt do his work
XDDD
and forgot to check how much damage the talent would do
but yes
i do think a lot of wow tuning is purely accidental
and if you get lucky your spec does damage
otherwise i cannot really explain why specs like outlaw could spend the entire tww s3 without getting a buff for example
its just accident whatever happens happens
Im enh and outlaw mains so i dont are that man never
and sometimes they do small tuning to act like there are still peopple working on current expac
but thats not true
98% of the team is already working on the exapc that will come out in 10 years
I think its specifiaclly last seasons of an expansion get put on mega maintenance mode
and I feel TWW was extra the case because of how much of the addon deletion shit was going on
it certainly feels that way
Even DF wasn't this bad at like, fully being ignored
even when corruptions lead to insane wonky balance nothing happened
MFO had like 2 patches for balance and then they stopped
It wasn't just outlaw being ignored, they just kinda stopped
when they go hands off it does mean you are either lucky or not
because they aren't touching it again
But I mean
Even look at Nerubar
(or even right now)
Nerubar we got like, rogue 5% every other week
Where each spec took turns every 2 weeks being "technically better"
and then we got supercharger in the .5 patch
Or look at Undermine
We got a bunch of outlaw buffs, and then obviously the huge bug fix
I mean yeah those weren't final expac tiers like you mentioned
Despite the memes and the cynicism, they are fairly active with balancing, they do just buff and nerf random shit a lot
I think they are much more likely to go hands of then than now
Its just the last expac they kinda just, don't
Likely because they are moving more people off live and onto the new expac
though in this specific case we actually want inactive balancing lol
GGs for tn
If trickster is giga I can suffer KS for a bit
i wanna do keys ..
idk if they nerf this they have to nerf hunter, dh, dk, arms, and half the spec in the game
so
as i said
sometimes you get lucky
with lil unintentional buff
easy enough
what is gd
gcd
gravedigger
oh
well
i track it because i have no other choice
but i would rahter not if i had the choice
get with the times smh
yeah I mean I don't think this makes us op in keys or raid so
they would need to hit a ton of hte top end to make it make sense
and I doubt they will do that
at what point do u find urself checking the stack on gd
idk
i juist know its gonna proc on next bte
so im ready for the refund
otherwise its not possible to react in some situations
so
@keen belfry finally bro
large boss hitboxes or being out of range significantly delay gravedigger
so you need to know in advance that it is going to proc
after 1 million depletes on algethar
do u use arc ui?
yes
Can you make it glow at 6 stacks?
🙁
above my combo points
Yeah same
you cant do that with addons
grats cuh
Cuz automation bad
A glow is playing the game for you- Asmongold
...bro
I got crit mast shoulders
mast so bad it's not even upgrade after 13 ilvls
you can do some weird stuff to kind of make a glow
since you can have a resource bar that only shows at 6 stacks
remind me where tf i can edit the rtb icon
and just make it a square somewhere
its a weak aura
this one
well
yellow square with a lower frame strata than whatever you want to make a glow around idk
its also in ayjee cdm
something cursed is possible
"same customization" my ass
thats the background that will remind you if its bugged also
thats a weak aura
then ayjee cdm has the real rtb icon sitting on top
in the buffs categories
wdym by that
arcui is capable of changing the colors of a resource bar at x stacks
so you make one that is transparent at any stack except 6
and now it only shows at 6 and you use it as a will proc indicator instead of an actual resource bar
i see
i think thats cause color curves accept secrets
that this is possible
as far as i understand that thing
is that you can map secrets to colors
so like 1 is x color etc
blizzard handles it all
ye with color curves, just diodnt think it could be used that way kinda
magic
which is interesting i guess
prolly possible to change the color of the stacks also then
based on the stack
but idk
one thing i miss a lot from my old weak auras
but zac can i resize it somehow
yes check in weak auras i told you
rogue > rtb thing
and its a weak aura
you do whatever you want with it
love weak auras !
can someone give me a tl dr on the rotation changes when playing trickster?
just spend at 6 always and what else
I believe we're still canceling KS
But I could be wrong
I wonder if they doing more tuning
Kinda scared cuz felt there’s no way they let devourer buff go through at least
Idk
holy wp zac
i know im goated ty
Imagine thinking assa has aura
We're already such a small group, playing rogue. Then we divide ourselves further

only pvp-ers should be ostracized
PvP has held our class back from realizing our potential, fr fr
theres more pvpers than mythic raiders
pvp is where rogue shines
but honestly I dont think they really compromise design for pvp
they could very easily change it to not affect pvp or vice versa
That's just an indicator how bad we are in pve, we've been hijacked
I meant in total
pvp is technically more popular than mythic raid
Don't make me start my rant about mythic lockouts
You're comparing a single game mode entirely to one difficulty
lol I know
yeah cuz glad is harder than CE
I'd bet there are .ore rogues in shuffle than mythic raid
by a lot
also this early in the season theres like very very few people over 2.4
cuz its very deflated
in 3s
very few people are CE
CE isn't tied to MMR
I mean
Yeah glad has some RNG in grouping
CE is a pure raw skill check
Rog pop
More rog in higher rated pvp than CE
Wtf does that mean
More rogues in higher rated brackets than mythic raids
Yeah but
Are we just making up new metrics to get upset about
What conclusion are you making
I don’t get
Also doesn’t even make sense I don’t think
I said it twice

This is not new
Actually with the rogue changes in midnight idak
It fell out of favor a lot
Sub didnt
Naturally
this is the type of stat the commentator says about a football player on tv
like just random shit
Did you only read that?
Lol what did I just read
yes
So wait
More rogues in high end PvP than high end pve compared to other classes? Or what
My understanding of wow pvp is it's rock paper scissors
Explicitly rogue pop between pve and pvp
At high levels
No
Oh
Maybe there's a conversation there but idk
No one would come to an agreement anyway
That doesnt sound like wow population at all 
Lol
wow pop agrees on literally anything?
You're so right my b
The only community that agrees on literally everything, we should be proud of that
The only real statistics were the personal anecdotes we made along the way
cmon man
Ret paladin server but with different colours
rogues are masters of flaming people
When you're ret, you truly have nothing to complain about
Nor are you cognitively able to form a well-worded argument
That is also true
popo = poop
Nuh uh
its in the name

Remember when we all hated popo
Holy come up from popo
i think his whole argument is flawed and comparison makes no sense, but i don't hate popo
#NoEnemiesAmongUs
But what if they are french?
I told you that out of confidence
Listen, doesn't matter. For we are not rogue "players" - we are survivors
this is a support group actually
no, that's special needs
still do
I don't take too kindly to survivors...
Hunters have no discord because they cant read
What I do?
Probably just out-outlawed him
My bad
It's fine
When is our class getting married to another spec, so we get Inlaw Rogue?
Would spec would Outlaw want to get married to?
Where's a Tumblr user when you need one
Thief?
@keen belfry whats your st sim in your m+ build
I feel like our st really isnt that good
I sim like 75k
Theres a domestic violence joke about survival hunters in there somewhere
Probably really high
A number not even achievable
thats funny lol
Naw bro the people in my guild who get CE
Are bots
But I achieve my number @frail veldt
but youre still one of 3 players
I’m at a bar rn
get off disc
What u guys want
lol
Another factor why you can't compare 2.4k+ to CE is that they work differently - one is a race, other is at the end of season. Do you compare top 100 CE? Top 1000? What?
CE isnt a race
are you confusing CE and HoF
CE is just clear mythic raid by the end of the season
CE is a toilet bowl race
HoF is the race
Popo could do it
Punz
yeah its too easy to even be compared to glad
The comparison was population
SO BAD
Not skill involved
It’s good cuz we have dmg always
Resources:
ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
Misc:
Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent
ive not disagreed with you... and I still won't 🤝
i was actually curious, since i've not played Outlaw in a few weeks, M+ talents patchwerk quick sims are for 93k
i am not performing that well on Outlaw compared to Assa, but my Outlaw sims are always higher on Dungeon Slice
maybe i should practice a bit with reset
dslice doesnt tell u how much damage a spec does in a dugneon
Its just "whats an upgrade"
yeah ofc
it's just interesting, probably should try it more, im a bit out of practice with outlaw
but atm im pugging my way to 3.4k as assa
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
seems less punishing
anyone have a bcdm and arc ui profile they could share with me ;P
im having a helluva time making a ui for myself
!prekey
- Use
Adrenaline Rush to activate
Loaded Dice. - As Trickster, use
KS to activate
Disorienting Strikes. - Do NOT use
RTB before the key, you will lose it. - Use
SND during the bubble once the key starts.
@keen belfry do you want ot key
?
what type of gear is holding you back the most atm?
guys, how much versa is good for keys +16-17?
Weird questions aside, is there any guide on how to spend voidcores (both) and how do we earn ascendant ones??
Would love to know the answer but you can always peep on r.io 's highest io outlaws stat distribution
the crest farm on alts atleast feels super rough
I want to try outlaw now that I had more gear but I do not want to spend 80 crests on my crafted weapon
is the offhand dagger still the meta?
A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of
Zero In, and also slightly more
Instant Poison procs. Energy is not affected by offhand speed.
It is possible large ilvl differences can matter more than this bonus so use
Raidbots Top Gear when in doubt.
Yeah
jhru
jru
hey
@frail veldt the bar one
won
/tm 8 iirc
To the bar?
i just got back
Are you drunk?
It's 10 am wang
its 5 am bro
im on a demon schedule
Since they aren't going back to 1.0, this expansion is technically midday, next one is 13.0 which is 1pm
go to bed at 5m and wake up at 1pm
Same
5 am here
Ye
Wait fizz
Idk how i fix this one
You br?
but hey at least ur io number is higher!
It always happens i start drifting
naw
yeah cuh
ye
jaja?
That's spanish
We do ahsuhaushsiahaiehw
do u get racist when u get drunk awang
LOL
He's American no? I assume he's just always racist
nah thats ragnaros shit cuh
YO????????????????
spanish server
quelthaslas
Azralon is br
no
And nemesis
Is awang okay chat
No awang is drunk

ruby

this couple bought me the worst shot of my life
they are blue collar
and bought me
Did they spike it
Maybe it was
and that was to end the night
Black sambuca
sambuca is ass
i ubered home
and was battling
it was like a 19 resil
no one trying
but we all needed the key
It’s key time bro
so itwas hell
You’ll perform your best
ill key rn
If you hop on the game now
okay
open up the stream
I would pay to see awang do a 19 right now lol

Wang
100%
Did you see
@balmy topaz

is awang a league player
Huge

Is that lfr
Huge
Show all
Gamer
Not outlaw
?
Especially
Just need to practice a bit more
boss dam only have 100 parse on vroasisu
bro was nuking the little voids on saladbar
Noob

Not bad Lil bro not bad
zac
I'm proud of you
I reclear this week wang
You aren't keeping that R1 salad
anyone know what a okay-ish parse for Beloren is before egg stage?
Awang, the raid ladder
Single handily raising the entire guild
marvin
no one in my guild blasts
i have to amke youtubne videos
showing them how to
gill dimmy
do you funnel all the loot to urself
ive gotten 3 pieces fizz
but
2 heroic tiers pieces
you have gaze!
you wanna know how many myth piece i have
I HAVE ONE
ITS A CLOAK
yes
"hey shitters"
thats how i talk to my guild yueah
I don't think I've heard Wang's voice before
i used to have an abusive raid leader
wang
awangawangawangawanga
im both abusive and helpful
Wang you recruiting?
he would sometimes crash out and not do comms for the next 10 pulls
and some random officer would just have to do calls
Cool, I don't blast and need a lot of explanations so should fit right in
lol
i literally had to mesage one of our raiders to stop inting us
What's your guild name?
stand unshaken
lol
i alted for an aotc guild, joined when i convinced them to start trying mythic, then became an officer and got ce
Shit, the raid times ain't even bad for me
ez
Alright Wang, your drunk so let me be your mistake tonight
im gm and have been since birth
GUYS
WE KILELD
4 NORMAL BOSSES
FIRST NIGHT OF RIAD
we just killed saladbar
4 normal bosses in 3 hours ur trolling
lol
IM NOT JOKING
to be fair
That is frost mage in a nutshell
thats 80% of the rotation
What a legend
It's literally 50% of the execute time on the sim
man deserves ce
It's just ice lance
OUR MAIN TANK HAD TO WARM UP TO TANK A 7 SO HE DID A 3
LOL
LMAO
im literally
holy
Tank knows his limits, nice
im literally not joking
why id my 14 windrunner go to an 11 based off of just 3 pulls >.>
giga key time
im being summoned irl
resil 19 isnt gonna go get itself
what do i do
Grand key time
Hit decline
Just let it expire
No, assert dominance, decline that shit
We don't do that here anymore
Awh sheeet
We go around farting now
i tyhink im gonna accept this sumon
did u guys lik emy video
to descibr paltform/
i was gonan do a key
as trickster
rn
The first 20 seconds were very enjoyable
but im gonna accept thios summon
Don't
did u see in that video i said we arent gonan kill this bos
Is your bed summoning you?
It's a trap
the RLE discord didnt think we had a chacne to get CE
how did we go fro mkilling furakk
geek hates u
to barely getting CE vs dimmy
LOL
lol
he hates and loves me
This wouldn't happen with zacui btw
rle was mad i played sin for a bit on dimmy
dracoi hats me
draco and henry literally hat eme
they flamed me so ahrd
for palying outlaw on fyrakk
The hell is a rle?
raid leader discrod
raid leader exchange
That's a thing?
yea
they have people just giga watching any guild that streams prog
yeah we were almost RWL
we werent close to rwl and they snooped us
we shouldve been
but my videos made us prog faster
they genuinely said we ont get CE probs
is that bcdm?
then we killed with like a week to go
we surprised them
they didnt bleieve me when i said next raid night we kill
but then we did
im the goat
idc
i dropped a nuke during the dmp amp
yeah i can play sub/
yes my average was a 99 when i played mage too
wang just goating it up
show the rest
coward
is this bad comms to get into keys?
19
should put that u will pump in bed right after
Just did a line, should my nose be itchy?
i just type "cr / transmog" cuz that's what i bring
gn cuh
wwe got some tirckshter
sleep tight
always build to 6!
somhow u fucks will stil fuck it up
never think!
and think how am i no blating
is it my stats?
SURELY IM PALYING PERFECT
ITS JUST MY STATS
Sir, go to sleep
ITS NOT ME
Thiccster
awang always right no?
I want you well rested and beautiful
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
will you still love me when im no longer young and beautfiul
-lana del rey
as long as you don't have dementia
Wake up awang!

so we getting buffed next patch right?
yeah ur algorithm is cooked

Uncs still got it???
hey, is there a place where i can find the spell ids of the most importants casts to interrupt in season 1 ? I'm trying to make a glow in plater for said casts but I need every single spell id in order to do so nvm platynator is better
@vivid vessel crazy keys last night, wp and gz
Hi pirates
anyone got a cool platynator profile they can share
try plater, jundies
whjere did u get the profile for platynator
wago
it's really fun and easy to tweak compared to plater
unless there are some obscure things that plater can still do over this i don't really the point of using plater anymore
there's also advanced focus cast bar that's pretty neat
167k is crazy, spill the tech
Im switching from Assa/Sub to Outlaw and I dont know which talents to choose the ones from wowhead or from Zac?
these
but keep in mind it will all change next patch as trickster is getting giga buffed
Outlaw bros honestly tell me, is playing the spec worth this level of humiliation?

hello kings quick question
plume > solarflare?
pretty sure plume but sim it
noted
Think it's Plume due to raw uptime.
Plume for sure especially with cloud cover Tuesday
Does this mean that this will most likely be the preferred spec for m+ progression?
Anyone playing assa/outlaw? what did you craft if so
unless anything changes, yes
oh i misread this kinda, if you're asking if outlaw will be preferred over sub/sin im not entirely sure, as sub is also getting buffed through the trickster changes
it'll definitely be trickster over fatebound for outlaw though which is what i thought you meant
Ah okay, we will just have to see 🙂
Thank you for replying though
zac has some rank 1 keys on outlaw already though
just gotta be a gamer
Yeah i was going to swap from sin to outlaw aswell for keys, but im having some second thoughts because of downgrade in gameplay on trickster
Having to cast killing spree cant be fun since i can barely get a proper puzzling box cast off right now
It's less dangerous to KS than to box, we can move in KS now
Ah alright, havent played KS for a long time so i just assumed
Considering both outlaw and sub getting these buffs, i do think sin will be the "worse" spec of the 3, or am i wrong perchance
talking m+ high keys
do yall use any tooltip addons for ur character panel
turned off elvui and its empty
any suggestions
hover
There is no tech, i just hit my buttons correctly
😉
My haste low tho zzz
hello, pretty new to the spec, was wondering if there's an easy way to see what rtb roll you got outside of like directly looking at your buffs
the cdm doesnt seem to show the dynamic icon
cdm shows you which rank you get tho
thank you, sorry seems like the skinning addon i have doesnt show it correctly
ill just turn it off
yeah that's most likely what's happening
How do the combo points look above the nameplates? can you customize the colors at all?
Hell yeah appreciate the post, Going to give it a shot and tweak it while im doing delves.
you can do whatever you want with it
Team square baby thats what I like to see
circles are stressing me out istg
isnt this pretty annoying to have in such big pulls?
everything is a god damn circle this expansion i swear
i'd rather just have mine tied to the cdm ye
I use both, helps for when you lose track and it goes above the head due to wall clipping
well thats why u simply color code it so it turns like red at 5/6 cp or smth
cleaner to have this than under the nameplates for sure
dispatch in the tracker?
i have rotation highlight
oh
well mine are pretty simple supercharge stacks = blue
5+ = orange (dispatch)
6+ = red (bte)
so u dont need to count or whatever, u just press finishers when u see atleast orange
ye everyone has his own preferences
found out about advanced focus cast bar this morning and this one is so practical
if u have a macro to focus on mouseover makes tracking important casts easier
also announces casts
although it's every cast since spell ids are not a thing anymore
better than nothing tho
never heard bout it kinda, using elvui focus + castbar
used elvui before and i like how i can customize everything without it
feels less walled off
you can have glows on important casts and you can have the bar that tracks whether your kick will be available before end of cast or not
ye might be eating less ressources compared to plater, but im used to elvui with windtools + plater, and i put to much effort into my profile - still have the same just with other addons
yeah once it's just like you want hard to move over
i have more fps without elvui so there's that too
What do you use for super charger stacks / combo point tracker.?
I was using Enhance QOL for resource bars but cant figure out if I can customize supercharge combo points with it. Unless someone else knows?
just elvui with custom color settings
i assume i dont bother manually pressing thistle tea?
not really
Is he back
I have a question. My DPS climbs when I swap to the one button rotation, and it seems like it doesn't prioritize having full combo points like I do. Are you supposed to aim for 5 and extra is just extra?
@ awang your addon lies to me 
all the rules are here #1276307559061524652 message
5+ for dispatch, 6+ foor between the eyes
Never gone simply waiting
you arent actively aiming for full combo points
if it happens it happens
but if youre at 5 with BtE on CD then you can send dispatch at 5
no reason to build to full
That makes sense. Thanks guys. It's the first time I've ever had one button beat me and I was like WTF is going on!?
Thanks, I'll comb over it thoroughly.
You are likely fucking up in other areas
from experience common mistakes seem to be: not sending blade rush on cd, wrong prep timing, not rolling correctly
I understand those. One I'm not sure about.
With four set it makes it to where blade rush is OCD even single target?
Because of the flat damage boost? That was my assumption.
u always send BR when it comes of CD
I thought so.
yes
I was reading it, but tabbed back over here incase someone was replying.
Didn't want to be rude.
Thanks so much guys. I'm going to go commit that to memmory and if I have any other questions I'll come back.
depends on how many CPs you are, if u are at 3 CPs for instance u will PS
but below u ss?
well ye I get 6 cuz ur cappedf
...how does that change it?
outlaw experience deluxe
what level is that?
i have a simillar experience trying to get NPX 15 for the last dung i need for resi
mmmmm just switched out this for this
goodbye shitty mastery
hello baby versatility and big haste
its mainly about rio





