#outlaw
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can we get anthropic to make a zac llm then get blizzard some fucking qa
like finally a raid buff

Hell yea let's put some raid utility in trickster
Nobody likes sin anyway
And sub can only fart every 1.5m or whatever
Double outlaw keys for maximum gas coverage
Like make people especially melee smell your gas
Triple outlaw key like in df
@keen belfry !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he knows ball
Can I have an audio cue for max opp procs?
take stacks font size and put it at max 
just record yourself screaming 6 at your mic and put it in mysharedmedia
Big brain
yessssss
10,000 blessings to you sir
it'll be frustating pugging as trickster tbh. Unless the cloud follows you
tank is just gonna move around like a headless chicken
or you'll have to hold AR until he decides to sit
just rage bait everyone into following the cloud instead 
The uptime is so high that like
What we drop for prep next weeks build
Losing a bit isn't going to be the end of the world
Ofc not ideal but
Unless the tanks are literally lost and see the cloud and instantly move
It shouldn't be thaaaat bad
Ofc not ideal but
It's not like sub who has so much damage tied to blades
most tanks can't tank i'd be surprised if they take other players into account
I think it would make less sense if it followed you around
How would u drop a smoke bomb and then have it follow you
I honestly prefer trickster gameplay over fb. I like CdG a lot
Makes no sense if u ask me
Make smoke bomb give buffs to raid!
i cant wait to have a cloud on MC first pull, i will def be able to see the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well not in reality but I mean gameplay wise
cause it shouldnt be a called a smoke bomb, its all the sweat coming off our character
Ofc gameplay wise it'd be best as just a buff on your player lol
cause all the adrenaline
true
What about haste requirements?
pull first room of AA and turn off monitor 
is it not a buff that lingers when u leave the cloud?
yo can someone help, how are we meant to play chimera?
do we stay on boss when phased until all ads are grouped?
or straight on big ad?
Thought it was a buff that lingers for 10 seconds when leaving the cloud
@gaunt phoenix do we get more gravedigger stacks as trickster or does it cancel out with less cp/energy/ks etc
go and cleave the adds
ye
when phased
but instant?
isn't it how it works ?
or wait til grouped
Does Heightened Rush also extend the cloud duration?
I normally just go when phased, you apply atrophic to the big add for ur grp in the phase
It is
But it also lasts the entire duration your are in it
So you need to be in it, when it fades for max uptime
ok just making sure I didn't miss something
i mean even if tank is moving like crazy, quick lil grapple to the cloud and back
nbd
sub L
True
just use training dummy toy and shadowstep to it 
technically how many palmed bullets can you store?
Depends on the caliber but I think I could do a dozen or so
5 ? it procs on the 6th no ?
Up to 10
ah ok
theres a weird bug where after u get 6
10 and a 30s timer starts after hitting 6
they become asychcyuenened
They all expire at once if u let 30s pass
I think what is going on is that reaching 6 gives you a 2nd invisible buff that enables all the portions of the apex that benefit from being at 6
and that buff is just set to remove 6 stacks when it ends or is consumed
and the invisible buff has a duration of 30 seconds
not necessarily a bug
me: Look how buff I am
them: you look like a fat slob
me: it's invisible buff
depending on how you look at it
It's a buff on you?
It's not something like you gotta hit things while inside the cloud to apply 3x fazed?
man
I am kinda stoked for trickster but also
what the fuck are we gonna do about energy
correct
This is good, tho I'll probably have to install m33kaura to track this shit
While in the cloud, you get the benefits, and then also for 10 seconds after leaving it
So you just need to be in it, as it fades to get maximum uptime
Bro Ur a trail in a guild telling them how to run shit 
theres a difference between determining hours and saying dont use chatgpt
Ur a trail either way bro
4 Hof guilds?
You'll find your people eventually
trail
for a moment i was like
mods disassemble that denizens abode
This doesn't mean they won't accept him
we are ALL not joining

Guy
holy
Can I add audio cues to max Opp stacks?
a treat
the fuck were those called again?
So you're saying you hate me
Cosmic brownie
Okay
u said it not me
You ever put one in a freezer
im just sitting here waiting for tank spec
The microwave is good but the freezer is sleeper good
Damn I remember eating these
why cook frozen pizza, it get warm in the stomach
im an oatmeal creampie guy
American food
sybau
"food"
americans got the best foods and snacks
We still eat it tho
best raiding team in wow too
Food more like sugar
is it normal we feel kinda energy starved rn
high fructose corn syrup, no sugar
sugar is too expensive
last time i played outlaw it was like playing on crack
no it doesnt help the farmers.
nothing to do with cost
got to subsidize all that corn
how much haste you got?
20 with flask and even with flask it has a lot of eh moments
You want around 25 iirc
still not meeting the requirement

Don't worry, it doesn't feel any better to actually play the spec 🙂
crack -> strong box of juice
you need 21-23% minimum its gonna get better also make sure you prio your rotation properly in mix maxing for SS to do 4 cps and such and dont waste your PS for no reason which will solve alot of the starvation
hey im swapping from sin to outlaw since i've got a random 1h from myth raid
i need some help with UI, anyone using ellesmere ?
10s
But you get 10s after leaving smoke
So buff lasts whole adr + some
Actual smoke only stays for 10s
what even is this ST opener with trickster
do u just ignore KS for your whole first AR?
Ye fuck ks
and prep it even off cd
Here's how it works specifically since there is confusion and people can just relink to this point if people are confused later
When you press AR/Blades you drop a giant cloud on the ground (The smoke bomb on the right is how big it is). The cloud lasts for 10 seconds. After you leave the cloud, OR the cloud ends, it lasts for an additional 10 seconds, so as long as you are IN the cloud as it ends, you get max uptime.
Wonder if you try to not recast adr while smoke bomb is up
Think Solo needs to cook over it a bit still so we might ks
what about leaving and re entering
It would reset it
as in you would still get full value?
If you hypothetically drop it, leave it the entire duration, and on the last second, jump back in, you would reset the duration yes
W
This sound like an unnecessary mechanic
As long as you are in it, as it ends, you get full value
I mean compare it to the old smokescreen
giving it a buff duration is the improvement
every change individually to it is a clear improvement over the old distract version
Its also an absurdly tuned talent so even getting like, 15 seconds rather than the 20 on the box, its still incredibly strong
3 stacks so it actually boosts damage in some meaningful way
tie it to a spell you want to cast already instead of distract
let you leave the cloud occasionally without losing uptime
Theres a lot of room to not get full value on it, and its still very high value
the circle is also genuinely large
DND I think is the same size as smokebomb in pvp (the image on th eleft
so its like, literally 2x as big as DND
so its like that arcane circle for arcane mage
but on a melee
I’m here for it. Just glad outlaw hasn’t been dumped down to the simplicity of sub and a potential for skill expression remains.
when are we pressing slice and dice? its it ONLY before a key? its nowhere on any prio list
Is KS flagged as a generator for trickster?
no
Its like
Literally 3x as big as rune of power
There is no slice and dice. Cut to the chase is a passive that gives you slice and dice everytime you use dispatch!
im not a fan stuff
Its literally like
is it that hard to hold it for their special?
i mean no? but its still annoying
oh i agree
It gets auto applied by dispatch
holdng in almost all cases will be worse than just sending
and losing a couple seconds of cloud
it's just a minus dps part of cloud cover that you'll have
when things line up poorly
dear lord no wonder this is the least played class cant even fucking level, you get to press 1 button a fuckin minute
yeah leveling fucking sucks on outlaw
assa is worse
woah what happened
but this is way worse than sub
On rogue in general
why r we talking abt trickster outlaw
Next week we are going to play in fart cloud with less energy and more rng
very very good on reset
how much is trickster haste requirement? around 30?
upon reading it
it seems like a good change
we can actually apply fazed well now right?
AND
my beloved aoe blind
Resources:
ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
Misc:
Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent
Uh idrk
Like yeah but
Its just a very high uptime talent
very good
STOP
TALKING
STOP
QUEUING YOUR MIC
YOU MUST BE A DEGENERATE
ITS NOT POSSIBLE
bro really doesn’t wanna play rogue
bro dont
im cooking this tier hml
DUDE I DIDNT EVEN GET TO RAID
I legit sent 2 messages in the general chat
and got banned from the server
yes
what did u send man
😭
you muyst be
crazy speedrun
Imposs
a fury degenerate
bro what could you have possibly sent
I said, "Don't use chatgpt for your announcments"
fucking dont chat
"it's very obvious"
dont queue up mic bro
you obviously arent a real human
just stop using means of communications
😭😭
and maybe you stay in a guild more than 1 day
Atp it just isn't meant to be
why woul du say this as your first impression LMAO
why’s zac frying his shit bro omg 😭
i mean hml
to tell us how he failed his new trial
I had already gotten into a trial! i had an audio interview and everything
cause they didnt fuck with him socially
like
idk
at this point you arent a real human being im sorry
he got sent this last time
just do not use any means of communication one you entered the guild
bro idk i got into my guild after joining and grey parsing every boss as outlaw last tier
in the middle of their mythic prog
this motherfucker told me to look at my wowhead guide
it can’t be a gameplay issue
I had never been so insulted
like shits wearing on my mental at this point
dont come to raid tomorrow 
don't listen to them they are trying to break you king

yknow what the general vibing thing is? It was me saying "what are we doing wrong here" cause we wiped 5 times in a row to the silver arrows in P2 of COTC
they told me that
u cant say that as a trial
hahaha
esp ifu arent blasting
I bet it was how you said it as well since that's more than half what what speech is.
Character building speedrun
i think so too
i dont
bro got a kink
when i fail a trial i feel like crying
like @vivid vessel remember i was like rank 675/700 on outlaw in mythic raid
even a chud like me got into a CE guild
I want to believe that im somehow deeply socially repulsive
and that why im getting fucked
did they like u
oh
gg...
lmao
usually a relationship goes
i match on hinge
i text them
they text back for 2 days
they ghost me for a week
Dang maybe youre right
i have to unmatch with them because its too painful to keep talking
fart cloud
I remember my first trial
ask popo for dating tips
haha smoke bomb!
Is this a dating discord? Wtf is happening
i mean im fine?
im just getting more and more nervous about actually getting any mythic done this season
I can help you practise 
Fuck em all. Do what makes you happy.
it ssso easy bro
normal chances
u have to listen to zac
^
just join guild and dont type or talk
but perhaps like ur hinge matches. u need to Chill in the beginning
Being like me makes you lots of friends
like super chill relaxed dude bro
Esp in high places
Copy me
ty
np
Bang awang?
can pin

mmmm yes pin me

its gonna take a few days for me to be allowed to post my application to the big recruitment server
No no pin me pin me
some real perverts in here rn..
Who
you
Who
Nuh uh
me
True
no you
Your name is literally a wang
I bet you shower naked, you slut (jk I know you don't shower)
!sim
I actually used a new body scrub today and I smell wonderful
!stats
Outlaw's stat prio is generally Crit > Haste* > Vers >= Mastery.
- You need ~21-23% haste for energy, this has priority over crit. That's the haste on your stat page after talents/buffs/flask.
- Crit is then your best stat until you approach ~40%, from there random vers or mastery pieces will be similar.
- You have to use
Raidbots Top Gear to determine the exact combination of pieces to use.
manure?
Anyone have a recommendation on how to track roll the bones?? I just came back and already miss WA
I mean people already use salmon sperm as a skincare routine
is dungeon slice good for outlaw or nah
What's your pfp
who is employed to wank fish for skincare products?
Yes
we all do
You just press a button
Or maybe squeeze
would you push the jerk off fish button
20 dollars is 20 dollars
Just the in game CDM
they can see
Put it as a buff bar
can u grapple hook the bridge tho?
ye
u might not be able to cuz not gamer
maybe u got bad procs
popo be uitlizing his pistol shot procs but never getting his kid a new playstation, ps hes 5
😭
everything you need to now
... for now

real thank you guys
good job buddy
name that feral
well body pulling is a stretch
he got angry for tank pulling too slow
and pulled
and we died to aggro
xd
who!
@tender rapids explain
zimbita is wild cuh
hes alwayhs nervous in my keys i think
so i dont blame him 100%
star studded event
listen zimbitas tanked my keys i believe in him
@tender rapids alo
LMAO
attaboy
zimb, why you pull for the tank
dont be rude !
idk
is
pulling
3
mobs
for
no
reason

i
miss
df

2-4 is banned guys
tell him snail
@tender rapids he doesnt fuck with u
zimbita u need 18 WS?
375k i think
i left after 1st run, was like 5 at the mornign to be figthing 3 mobs ever 2 pulls
lmaoooo
W gif
is there something that increases auto attack crit chance specifically?
i feel lok is the only outlaw exclusive
Is it time to ask for old KS to be back?
Literally why
I don’t know. There are not a lot of things that can get us killed+we stack haste for fast KS
old ks on vorasius jst to immediately die
zac really need that 13% buff
the build for trickster already in the faq?
Probably want the ones in pins but it might change
No. Pin
Its better
i read it but completely blanked over that xD
10 guilds
Low tier ragebait
post next pack details
ARMS!!!!!!
For every positive there is of current KS, I can name 2 positives for old KS
But why not though? Im not trying to ragebait. Put it on cast like current KS. This was fun ability
No amount of reasons will justify the fact that it killed u
Because it actively killed you by pressing it
thats skill expression
all those times you died in cinderbrew
cause of KS
skill expression
pressing old ks in mechagon and literally a 70% chance u just immediately die
I don’t know. Sometimes it was +uptime if timed right. Not mechagon though
but 100K single target dps as outlaw is kinda crazy
What do you even want from old KS
the fear of death every time i press it
will it be live on wed
but we love cp
Not from a channel
the absorb mechanic was kinda cool I liked seeing a like 40% pop up after timing it bad
or topping heals on dinosaur boss
What's the point of having a channel if it's never completely channeled
I just don’t like current one
Better animation
Felt like it had weight to it
It's only con was that it killed you and that, while big, could be played around or held until it was safe.
The targeted Flame beam on the hex Masks in maisara caverns would go hard with old ks
And targeted mechanics but I think that just added to old KS
I agree killing part is the worst thing and playing around it was miserable
New KS only positive is that you can grapple and use defensives during it
the new icon is better imo
Other upside, it looks cool
it looks like Mesa's 4 from Warframe
It doesn’t look that bad, but not as flashy
Your character does a slide show between guns pointing in random directions and off hand stabbing
old killing spree definitely looked cooler though imo
if they added some movement into it again would be neat

something along the lines of DH aoe spell I cant remember the name off
It's an animation for Disney adults in that this kind of thing is in every other MMO ever and people are like "OH EM GEE ITS JUST LIKE LEAGUE" or whatever

Unoriginal and uninspired
Get this filth off my spec, off my class, and off my game
That is too far
It's not far enough tbh
Choice node perhaps?
That's actually a good idea because it'd put into perspective how bad it is
I don’t think so, no. Granted the same balancing
Everyone would take the strongest dmg numbers anyways
even is old KS was like 2% better nobody would play it
Too much larp about old KS
It was just bad
Those are actually features
All they have to do is give it prio, remove the offhand attacks from the animation, and buff it.
Well it was killing us, which is > all other positives, but still…
I don’t think this is about risk
You mentioned killing us so I assumed it was about risk
whats with the pinned message are we getting reworked or something?
There is also definitely some hard to reproduce bug where if you fire a btte with gravedigger ready at a target and it dies before impact, you don't get a CD reset, but also don't consume GD stacks, but also actually get a bonus refund of 6 GD stacks instantly putting you at the cap of 10.
clean the eyeboogers with a qtip!
chilling, ty for the inv tho 
Way ahead of you
He was not a fan lol
ehm, idk just dummy tested trickster outlaw, starving seemed to be real
nothing is changing regarding this i guess in patch
neither
ye they hate it, but it takes like 10s and then they forget about it
Okay well my last one didn't mind
Buff
Engineering might be super sub-par in Midnight, but it does have one amazing thing: an embellishment that causes races with special jump animations to ALWAYS use that special animation.
It's useable even by non-engineers too, and doesn't count towards the 2-embellishment cap.
Guys
But it makes it no longer gamba so noit great.
my highest backflip streak is 9
Noticed that last week
btw any chance we see HO trickster with .5 changes?
ambush would needa get a buff
ambush needs more payoffs than it has rn
does ambush not greatly benefit from the bonus builder crit damage
shrug
the ambush stuff is a lot of talent points
Hard to path
but idk if its even been tested
It could be
its time to test it
what is it called xD
i dont actually have an x account so couldnt look at comments 😛
is that just a hidden thing with it xD
didnt notice i was special jumping
does it add +1 luck, because thats just the same as the minature roulette wheel from undermine
it adds + 1 sparkle 🙂
with the current talent pathing making an aoe build for HO is also turbo cursed
u need to give up so many strong talents to take the basic aoe stuff
hooolllyyy
wwwww blizzard
login!
game is fixed!
saved!
@lavish shoal TLI cancelled we can flip always now!
Is sin good with crit haste?
all 3 rogue specs are crit haste rn
Its just sub has strict cutoff values for haste
Sweet
I don't know what im doing wrong with outlaw in raid so I'm gonna try Sin in raid
10%?omg
Big buff
Are we seriously praising old KS
yall need to get on tranquilisers and fix your ADHD that makes you skitz when you have to wait 3 seconds to press a button
This is what I mean
Like
At a certain point we have to admit we've lost the plot
new KS has its issues but idk man
Suicide button was not fun
is prep the recommended take for keys?
Its okay
I think zac plays it and says its good but its kinda medium overall
U can not play it if u dont want
But its a lot better on .5 so
with trickster?
yer
who is glazing old KS
What I find funny is that OL hates new ks but surv loves boom stick
me
none of the normal complainers in here do that
And they’re legit exactly the same thing
as zac said they managed to rework ks from the most shit spell in the game to the second most shit spell in the game
big upgrade
halleluah or something

I glaze the old ks. I'm fully aware that it was bad, but I still liked it

true!
what the helly
sub is not haste mast!?

afaik its been haste mastery this tier but
idk
maybe im building wrong
mastery kind of giga in keys though
Its haste > crit => mastery
ye crit just better in st
not even close also
for sub
Is sub also getting giga buffed with trickster changes?
So If I have 37 crit and 22 haste I can run 3 specs
tho maybe it is the fact im playing with puzzle box idk
Less buffed than outlaw is
im doing statweight rn
Both are buffed tho
oh shit
I mean sub stats dont matter cuz its haste to 700 and then u just go crit and mastery
They are like, the same
u right
Noway this is going/staying on live
i should prob recraft all my haste mast gear to crit then eh
Absolutely zero chance lmao
for dualspeccing stuff
If this would go live, wouldnt we be like top simming dps class?
ok tbf
i looked at my keys overall
and i still dont beat arms
with 15% more damage
so
maybe its fine

Not to mention the actual meta shit
@cinder relic this is real btw
I assume arms isnt the top performer compared to these aug/lock/devourer/uhdk things
maybe the arms warrior is just better
No
Lol
Also the year is 2026
this is magister 20 we did today
were talking about "highest simming" as if it matters at all
i dont think i played bad really
Feral was a high simming spec look how unplaayble it is in raid rn
Rogue is ass rn
It genuinely need stuff like this to be strong
183k overall?? dahell
lol
i still dont beat my arms
and he still bring 5% buff
and he died in that key
like 4 times
arms is v good
on high target count
doing 110k overall in 12s with this
assa i like drug
ye bro because outlaw is goated on low target count
xd
no not on high target count
on every target count
and st
i think i did 800k aoe one day
enough with the anime
:DDD
you just need to roll jackpoot first roll
I guess outlaw does more pure st then Assa tho right
but i think 3 traged outlaw is still better
or lower target in general
outlaw cant even do 3 target
i mean
open wcl rn
check vanguard lil bro
its 2/3 target
ok mb g
before the last round of sin buffs rogue was 3 of the 5 worst 3 target cleave specs in the game

now we are 2

ngl i think midnight rogue is more fun then tww so that still w
w
im gonna play sub btw
i mean
Sin is so easy on that fight
unlucky
sin doesnt even do multi dotting anymore
Sin just makes it easier
qol
god bless CT
Its so vibes
idk if i would call that qol
CT IS SO GOOD
"crit better than mast"
u guys r cooked
bro are you stupid
i did not like multidotting
"Full crit haste swap"
ut also like
Hello?
u dont go FULL CRIT HASTE
bet you dont even know how to sim
U got haste to 700
NOOB
NOOBA
i mean
U dont go "FULL CRIT HASTE"
u
lil bro
u dont think i understand
that u dont want more than 700 haste
It's all or nothing, no halvies
waltuh...
LOLOL
my current gear
skill issue
where i am mast > crit
would never happen to me
you are right
is framemogging
its literally 109 dps
i outsim you lil bro
yeah because the sim wants less haste than im comfy with
swap cloak go down to 664
is within margin of error
so its ok
you can play both spec
with crit haste
insane no
still blue parsed 
NOO B !
i mean its 100% better for sin and outlaw
idk i might play sin on vanguard but
idk i like that i currently can play all 3 specs
i was looking forward to sitting out that boss
with basically the same gear
and then they toild me
its kinda banger

atrophic !
@cinder relic i thought about it
you were right
i was wrong
im now ready to do damage
ty for showing me the light
we will start paladins on sunday too, gonna be fun^^
ikr 🙁
Not enough pad on the orbs rip
saladbar yea
ye bro



