#outlaw

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gleaming reef
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If they made cloud cover something useful to raid other than yourself

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that could be a reason to bring rogue to raids

jagged plover
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can we get anthropic to make a zac llm then get blizzard some fucking qa

gleaming reef
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like finally a raid buff

jagged plover
glass mortar
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Hell yea let's put some raid utility in trickster

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Nobody likes sin anyway

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And sub can only fart every 1.5m or whatever

tight kernel
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Double outlaw keys for maximum gas coverage

gleaming reef
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Like make people especially melee smell your gas

karmic gust
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Triple outlaw key like in df

outer meteor
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he knows ball

wintry solar
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Can I have an audio cue for max opp procs?

karmic gust
wintry solar
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It has to be audio lol

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But I guess not

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le sigh

karmic gust
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just record yourself screaming 6 at your mic and put it in mysharedmedia

wintry solar
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Big brain

dim parrot
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Wait we use prep on trickster next week

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What we drop for it

keen belfry
wintry solar
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10,000 blessings to you sir

sullen wyvern
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it'll be frustating pugging as trickster tbh. Unless the cloud follows you

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tank is just gonna move around like a headless chicken

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or you'll have to hold AR until he decides to sit

karmic gust
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just rage bait everyone into following the cloud instead garf_sit

cinder relic
dim parrot
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What we drop for prep next weeks build

cinder relic
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Losing a bit isn't going to be the end of the world

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Ofc not ideal but

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Unless the tanks are literally lost and see the cloud and instantly move

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It shouldn't be thaaaat bad

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Ofc not ideal but

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It's not like sub who has so much damage tied to blades

sullen wyvern
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but guy

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it should follow you..

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Like it makes sense

karmic gust
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most tanks can't tank i'd be surprised if they take other players into account

sullen wyvern
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blizzard just set up these situations for us to suffer

cinder relic
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How would u drop a smoke bomb and then have it follow you

sullen wyvern
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I honestly prefer trickster gameplay over fb. I like CdG a lot

cinder relic
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Makes no sense if u ask me

gleaming reef
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Make smoke bomb give buffs to raid!

outer meteor
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i cant wait to have a cloud on MC first pull, i will def be able to see the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sullen wyvern
misty bridge
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cause it shouldnt be a called a smoke bomb, its all the sweat coming off our character

cinder relic
misty bridge
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cause all the adrenaline

gleaming reef
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What about haste requirements?

karmic gust
near rock
normal quail
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yo can someone help, how are we meant to play chimera?

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do we stay on boss when phased until all ads are grouped?

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or straight on big ad?

near rock
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Thought it was a buff that lingers for 10 seconds when leaving the cloud

keen belfry
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@gaunt phoenix do we get more gravedigger stacks as trickster or does it cancel out with less cp/energy/ks etc

gleaming reef
normal quail
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ye

gleaming reef
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when phased

normal quail
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but instant?

karmic gust
normal quail
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or wait til grouped

misty bridge
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Does Heightened Rush also extend the cloud duration?

gleaming reef
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I normally just go when phased, you apply atrophic to the big add for ur grp in the phase

cinder relic
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But it also lasts the entire duration your are in it

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So you need to be in it, when it fades for max uptime

near rock
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ok just making sure I didn't miss something

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i mean even if tank is moving like crazy, quick lil grapple to the cloud and back

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nbd

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sub L

cinder relic
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True

karmic gust
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just use training dummy toy and shadowstep to it 2ez

native tinsel
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u cant jumpover lasers in vorasius right?

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like we did in the eye

gleaming reef
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technically how many palmed bullets can you store?

lime lake
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Depends on the caliber but I think I could do a dozen or so

karmic gust
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5 ? it procs on the 6th no ?

cinder relic
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Up to 10

gleaming reef
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ah ok

keen belfry
glass mortar
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10 and a 30s timer starts after hitting 6

keen belfry
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they become asychcyuenened

glass mortar
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They all expire at once if u let 30s pass

fathom bramble
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I think what is going on is that reaching 6 gives you a 2nd invisible buff that enables all the portions of the apex that benefit from being at 6

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and that buff is just set to remove 6 stacks when it ends or is consumed

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and the invisible buff has a duration of 30 seconds

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not necessarily a bug

upper hawk
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me: Look how buff I am
them: you look like a fat slob
me: it's invisible buff

fathom bramble
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depending on how you look at it

tropic zephyr
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It's not something like you gotta hit things while inside the cloud to apply 3x fazed?

river wing
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man
I am kinda stoked for trickster but also
what the fuck are we gonna do about energy

tropic zephyr
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This is good, tho I'll probably have to install m33kaura to track this shit

cinder relic
indigo token
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im actually so pissed

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i legit got banned from the guild I was trialing with

cinder relic
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So you just need to be in it, as it fades to get maximum uptime

indigo token
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cause I said that he shouldnt use chatgpt for announcements

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LMAO

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its setting in

cinder relic
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Bro Ur a trail in a guild telling them how to run shit OMEGALUL

indigo token
cinder relic
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Ur a trail either way bro

indigo token
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well that makes it 4 guilds

tropic zephyr
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4 Hof guilds?

indigo token
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4 ce guilds

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that I failed trial on

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no one fw me 💔

tropic zephyr
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You'll find your people eventually

random stirrup
red zinc
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nah he wont

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Nobody fw him

indigo token
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for a moment i was like

indigo token
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hm

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but then I realized you wrote that shit with chat gpt

wintry solar
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I was reading that

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Rude ass

red zinc
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mods disassemble that denizens abode

craggy barn
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just start ur own guild

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ez

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pepw

tropic zephyr
red zinc
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we are ALL not joining

tropic zephyr
craggy barn
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i want my announcements written by chatgpt

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so i wont join

cinder relic
wintry solar
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Guy

craggy barn
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holy

indigo token
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cosmic brownies are awesome

wintry solar
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Can I add audio cues to max Opp stacks?

craggy barn
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no

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maybe ayjies?

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idk

jolly geyser
grave rose
wintry solar
cinder relic
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Cosmic brownie

wintry solar
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Okay

craggy barn
wintry solar
craggy barn
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im just sitting here waiting for tank spec

wintry solar
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The microwave is good but the freezer is sleeper good

grave rose
jolly geyser
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why cook frozen pizza, it get warm in the stomach

indigo token
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im an oatmeal creampie guy

patent mirage
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American food

indigo token
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sybau

buoyant cosmos
near rock
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americans got the best foods and snacks

buoyant cosmos
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We still eat it tho

near rock
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best raiding team in wow too

patent mirage
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Food more like sugar

gusty cipher
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is it normal we feel kinda energy starved rn

buoyant cosmos
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sugar is too expensive

gusty cipher
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last time i played outlaw it was like playing on crack

grave rose
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nothing to do with cost

buoyant cosmos
carmine mountain
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how much haste you got?

gusty cipher
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20 with flask and even with flask it has a lot of eh moments

buoyant cosmos
gusty cipher
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im gearing up

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but feels shit rn tbh

carmine mountain
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still not meeting the requirement

gusty cipher
buoyant cosmos
patent mirage
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So is trickster back

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Init

random stirrup
carmine mountain
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you need 21-23% minimum its gonna get better also make sure you prio your rotation properly in mix maxing for SS to do 4 cps and such and dont waste your PS for no reason which will solve alot of the starvation

patent mirage
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Wait

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Does the smokescreen last for the duration of ar

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Or a few secs

ashen oracle
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hey im swapping from sin to outlaw since i've got a random 1h from myth raid

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i need some help with UI, anyone using ellesmere ?

inland acorn
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But you get 10s after leaving smoke

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So buff lasts whole adr + some

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Actual smoke only stays for 10s

keen belfry
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what even is this ST opener with trickster

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do u just ignore KS for your whole first AR?

inland acorn
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Ye fuck ks

keen belfry
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and prep it even off cd

cinder relic
# patent mirage Does the smokescreen last for the duration of ar

Here's how it works specifically since there is confusion and people can just relink to this point if people are confused later

When you press AR/Blades you drop a giant cloud on the ground (The smoke bomb on the right is how big it is). The cloud lasts for 10 seconds. After you leave the cloud, OR the cloud ends, it lasts for an additional 10 seconds, so as long as you are IN the cloud as it ends, you get max uptime.

nova sinew
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Wonder if you try to not recast adr while smoke bomb is up

inland acorn
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Think Solo needs to cook over it a bit still so we might ks

deft mason
cinder relic
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It would reset it

deft mason
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as in you would still get full value?

cinder relic
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If you hypothetically drop it, leave it the entire duration, and on the last second, jump back in, you would reset the duration yes

deft mason
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W

wintry phoenix
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This sound like an unnecessary mechanic

cinder relic
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As long as you are in it, as it ends, you get full value

wintry phoenix
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Why not just make this stupid smoke bomb last the full duration by default

cinder relic
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flavor

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It might be gross flavor, but that is why

fathom bramble
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I mean compare it to the old smokescreen

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giving it a buff duration is the improvement

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every change individually to it is a clear improvement over the old distract version

cinder relic
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Its also an absurdly tuned talent so even getting like, 15 seconds rather than the 20 on the box, its still incredibly strong

fathom bramble
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3 stacks so it actually boosts damage in some meaningful way
tie it to a spell you want to cast already instead of distract
let you leave the cloud occasionally without losing uptime

cinder relic
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Theres a lot of room to not get full value on it, and its still very high value

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the circle is also genuinely large

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DND I think is the same size as smokebomb in pvp (the image on th eleft

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so its like, literally 2x as big as DND

indigo token
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but on a melee

worldly zephyr
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I’m here for it. Just glad outlaw hasn’t been dumped down to the simplicity of sub and a potential for skill expression remains.

shy jewel
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when are we pressing slice and dice? its it ONLY before a key? its nowhere on any prio list

twilit frost
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Is KS flagged as a generator for trickster?

fathom bramble
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no

cinder relic
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Literally 3x as big as rune of power

worldly zephyr
cinder relic
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and rune of power has a 3 second linger

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Cloud cover has a 10 second linger

indigo token
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im not a fan stuff

cinder relic
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Its literally like

indigo token
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*still

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think about how much you move during a fight like Paladins or COTC

echo tapir
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is it that hard to hold it for their special?

indigo token
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i mean no? but its still annoying

echo tapir
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oh i agree

cinder relic
fathom bramble
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holdng in almost all cases will be worse than just sending

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and losing a couple seconds of cloud

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it's just a minus dps part of cloud cover that you'll have

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when things line up poorly

shy jewel
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dear lord no wonder this is the least played class cant even fucking level, you get to press 1 button a fuckin minute

indigo token
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yeah leveling fucking sucks on outlaw

shy jewel
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assa is worse

quaint mauve
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woah what happened

shy jewel
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but this is way worse than sub

devout garden
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On rogue in general

quaint mauve
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why r we talking abt trickster outlaw

indigo token
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because its gonna become the new meta

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and we have to play around it

quaint mauve
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😭

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ffs

devout garden
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Next week we are going to play in fart cloud with less energy and more rng

shy jewel
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does this tree get buffed?

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or nerfed rather

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fatebound*

cinder relic
fluid meadow
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how much is trickster haste requirement? around 30?

quaint mauve
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it seems like a good change

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we can actually apply fazed well now right?

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AND

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my beloved aoe blind

ashen oracle
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!addons

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!ui

ornate heathBOT
cinder relic
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Like yeah but

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Its just a very high uptime talent

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very good

vivid vessel
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TALKING

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STOP

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QUEUING YOUR MIC

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YOU MUST BE A DEGENERATE

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ITS NOT POSSIBLE

keen belfry
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i need to recruit this guy

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@indigo token u looking to trial?

indigo token
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im desperate

quaint mauve
vivid vessel
keen belfry
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im cooking this tier hml

indigo token
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and got banned from the server

vivid vessel
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yes

keen belfry
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what did u send man

quaint mauve
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😭

vivid vessel
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you muyst be

random stirrup
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crazy speedrun

wintry solar
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Imposs

vivid vessel
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a fury degenerate

quaint mauve
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bro what could you have possibly sent

vivid vessel
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sharing fury porn

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on login

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automatically

indigo token
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I said, "Don't use chatgpt for your announcments"

vivid vessel
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fucking dont chat

indigo token
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"it's very obvious"

vivid vessel
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dont queue up mic bro

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you obviously arent a real human

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just stop using means of communications

quaint mauve
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😭😭

vivid vessel
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and maybe you stay in a guild more than 1 day

wintry solar
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Atp it just isn't meant to be

keen belfry
quaint mauve
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why’s zac frying his shit bro omg 😭

keen belfry
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i mean hml

vivid vessel
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because he comes back in here

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every 2 days

keen belfry
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yes

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hahahaha

vivid vessel
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to tell us how he failed his new trial

indigo token
vivid vessel
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cause they didnt fuck with him socially

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like

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idk

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at this point you arent a real human being im sorry

keen belfry
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he got sent this last time

vivid vessel
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just do not use any means of communication one you entered the guild

keen belfry
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banger rejection

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kinda mean

quaint mauve
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bro idk i got into my guild after joining and grey parsing every boss as outlaw last tier

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in the middle of their mythic prog

indigo token
quaint mauve
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it can’t be a gameplay issue

indigo token
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I had never been so insulted

blissful idol
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hahahahaha

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how many failed trials so far bro

keen belfry
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hahaha THIS WAS 2 DAYS BEFORE THAT PIC

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hahahahaa i love this

indigo token
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IM SAYING

keen belfry
indigo token
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like shits wearing on my mental at this point

vivid vessel
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dont come to raid tomorrow PeepoHiGun

blissful idol
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don't listen to them they are trying to break you king

wintry solar
indigo token
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they told me that

keen belfry
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hahaha

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esp ifu arent blasting

wintry solar
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I bet it was how you said it as well since that's more than half what what speech is.

vivid vessel
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ubt i keep telling him

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to stop

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queueing up mic

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but idk he likes failing trials

quaint mauve
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yeah lowkey this might be a listen to zac angle

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play full mute

wintry solar
quaint mauve
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never type

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don’t even emote.

keen belfry
indigo token
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i dont

vivid vessel
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bro got a kink

indigo token
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when i fail a trial i feel like crying

vivid vessel
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kinky

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"oh yes fail me this trial"

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"OH YEEES"

quaint mauve
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like @vivid vessel remember i was like rank 675/700 on outlaw in mythic raid

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even a chud like me got into a CE guild

indigo token
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its really rough man

wintry solar
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Prolly because you didn't Q mic

indigo token
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I want to believe that im somehow deeply socially repulsive

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and that why im getting fucked

past falcon
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have u ever had a gf

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or a bf

indigo token
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im gay

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i have

past falcon
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did they like u

indigo token
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it doesnt really last cause i get kinda clingy or they ghost me for weeks

past falcon
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oh

outer meteor
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gg...

candid abyss
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lmao

indigo token
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usually a relationship goes

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i match on hinge

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i text them

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they text back for 2 days

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they ghost me for a week

wintry solar
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Dang maybe youre right

indigo token
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i have to unmatch with them because its too painful to keep talking

keen belfry
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fart cloud

wintry solar
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I remember my first trial

mighty pivot
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ask popo for dating tips

outer meteor
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haha smoke bomb!

grave rose
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Is this a dating discord? Wtf is happening

wintry solar
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I'm not good with dudes

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Sorry

outer meteor
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just a little therapy sesh

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no big deal

indigo token
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i mean im fine?

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im just getting more and more nervous about actually getting any mythic done this season

mighty pivot
grave rose
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Fuck em all. Do what makes you happy.

indigo token
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if I can't find a guild by now

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what are the chances I can later

keen belfry
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it ssso easy bro

past falcon
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normal chances

keen belfry
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u have to listen to zac

quaint mauve
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^

keen belfry
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just join guild and dont type or talk

past falcon
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but perhaps like ur hinge matches. u need to Chill in the beginning

outer meteor
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just speak when spoken to

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and its all g

wintry solar
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Being like me makes you lots of friends

past falcon
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like super chill relaxed dude bro

wintry solar
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Esp in high places

keen belfry
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no dont copy popo

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copy me

wintry solar
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Copy me

past falcon
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true

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awangs a banger

keen belfry
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ty

wintry solar
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Thank you

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Dang

vivid vessel
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np

keen belfry
grave rose
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Bang awang?

keen belfry
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can pin

indigo token
past falcon
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mmmm yes pin me

keen belfry
indigo token
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its gonna take a few days for me to be allowed to post my application to the big recruitment server

wintry solar
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No no pin me pin me

thorny zinc
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some real perverts in here rn..

wintry solar
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Who

mighty pivot
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you

past falcon
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Who

wintry solar
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Nuh uh

keen belfry
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me

wintry solar
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True

outer meteor
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no you

wintry solar
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Your name is literally a wang

mighty pivot
fair ice
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!sim

wintry solar
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I actually used a new body scrub today and I smell wonderful

fair ice
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!stats

ornate heathBOT
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Outlaw's stat prio is generally Crit > Haste* > Vers >= Mastery.

  • You need ~21-23% haste for energy, this has priority over crit. That's the haste on your stat page after talents/buffs/flask.
  • Crit is then your best stat until you approach ~40%, from there random vers or mastery pieces will be similar.
  • You have to use raidbots Raidbots Top Gear to determine the exact combination of pieces to use.
wintry solar
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Cinnamon Sugar

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Idr the brand

zinc moon
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Anyone have a recommendation on how to track roll the bones?? I just came back and already miss WA

wintry solar
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CDM

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Good luck

stuck sparrow
fair ice
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is dungeon slice good for outlaw or nah

wintry solar
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What's your pfp

mighty pivot
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who is employed to wank fish for skincare products?

wintry solar
wintry solar
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Or maybe squeeze

indigo token
wintry solar
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20 dollars is 20 dollars

outer meteor
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can u shroud last 2 mobs in MT

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or do they have true sight

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any knowers

keen belfry
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they can see

cinder relic
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Put it as a buff bar

outer meteor
keen belfry
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ye

outer meteor
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i havent tried it yet

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ah shit

keen belfry
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u might not be able to cuz not gamer

outer meteor
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i have a ret on my group

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cant skip

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gg

keen belfry
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gg

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but u have a ret

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so u can time it

outer meteor
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idk

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i might just fall over

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to shadowrift

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on 19

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!!!!!!!!!!

keen belfry
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how!

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ive nver once died to that mob

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in the history fothe world

outer meteor
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i died once

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but

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it was healer issue

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i had evasion and feint up

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and died

keen belfry
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maybe u got bad procs

wintry solar
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Lose $1200 at the casino

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Now that's bad procs

keen belfry
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popo be uitlizing his pistol shot procs but never getting his kid a new playstation, ps hes 5

quaint mauve
carmine flint
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do we send finishers at 5+ always?

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or do we ever chose to build to 7

ashen void
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everything you need to now

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... for now

harsh forge
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you only send be on 5+

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until chewsday

carmine flint
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real thank you guys

indigo token
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well I applied to 5 more guilds

past falcon
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good job buddy

outer meteor
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@keen belfry and depleted to feral body pulling right before 2nd boss

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gg!

outer meteor
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well body pulling is a stretch

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he got angry for tank pulling too slow

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and pulled

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and we died to aggro

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xd

keen belfry
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who!

outer meteor
past falcon
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NO

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NOT ZIMBYT

keen belfry
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zimbita is an inter bro

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hahaha

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maybve hes lurking here rn

outer meteor
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they are going at it

past falcon
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@tender rapids explain

keen belfry
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zimbita is wild cuh

outer meteor
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to be fair

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that pull

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was very slow

keen belfry
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hes alwayhs nervous in my keys i think

outer meteor
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so i dont blame him 100%

keen belfry
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star studded event

past falcon
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listen zimbitas tanked my keys i believe in him

outer meteor
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@tender rapids alo

tender rapids
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i hate

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tanks

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that

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pull

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3mobs

outer meteor
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LMAO

tender rapids
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im palying safe 👃

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.i.

past falcon
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attaboy

tender rapids
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zimb, why you pull for the tank

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dont be rude !

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idk

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is

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pulling

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3

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mobs

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for

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no

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reason

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i

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miss

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df

past falcon
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i believe u zimbita

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3 mobs is suboptimal for outlaw

keen belfry
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2-4 is banned guys

outer meteor
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for feral too

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xd

tender rapids
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tell him snail

outer meteor
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@tender rapids he doesnt fuck with u

tender rapids
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ye

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we were doing a 18 boost

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snail pulls

native tinsel
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18 boost

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damn

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how much for that one

keen belfry
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zimbita u need 18 WS?

tender rapids
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375k i think

outer meteor
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wtb 18 aa

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for resil

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!!!!!!!!!!!!

tender rapids
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i left after 1st run, was like 5 at the mornign to be figthing 3 mobs ever 2 pulls

outer meteor
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lmaoooo

tender rapids
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need

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df

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classic

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do

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somehting

indigo token
#

W gif

formal thunder
#

is there something that increases auto attack crit chance specifically?

near rock
# indigo token

Are u really apping to CE guilds saying you’re outlaw only

#

That’s brave

stuck sparrow
#

i feel lok is the only outlaw exclusive

bright lodge
#

Is it time to ask for old KS to be back?

cinder relic
#

Literally why

stuck sparrow
#

he wants to teleport and die

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clearly

bright lodge
#

I don’t know. There are not a lot of things that can get us killed+we stack haste for fast KS

thorny zinc
#

old ks on vorasius jst to immediately die

worthy ice
#

zac really need that 13% buff

echo tapir
#

the build for trickster already in the faq?

cinder relic
#

Probably want the ones in pins but it might change

gaunt phoenix
#

No. Pin

echo tapir
#

oh didnt see the one in pin

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ty

indigo token
#

welp

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i applied to like

wintry solar
echo tapir
#

i read it but completely blanked over that xD

indigo token
#

10 guilds

cinder relic
thorny zinc
indigo token
wintry solar
worthy ice
#

zac is there for buff

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xd

bright lodge
#

But why not though? Im not trying to ragebait. Put it on cast like current KS. This was fun ability

cinder relic
cinder relic
indigo token
#

all those times you died in cinderbrew

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cause of KS

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skill expression

thorny zinc
#

pressing old ks in mechagon and literally a 70% chance u just immediately die

bright lodge
#

I don’t know. Sometimes it was +uptime if timed right. Not mechagon though

worthy ice
#

but 100K single target dps as outlaw is kinda crazy

cinder relic
#

What do you even want from old KS

clear tulip
#

the fear of death every time i press it

violet osprey
#

will it be live on wed

indigo token
#

only reason to like it

wintry solar
#

Root break

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Absorbs

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Didnt build cp

indigo token
#

but we love cp

wintry solar
#

Not from a channel

thorny zinc
#

the absorb mechanic was kinda cool I liked seeing a like 40% pop up after timing it bad

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or topping heals on dinosaur boss

wintry solar
#

What's the point of having a channel if it's never completely channeled

bright lodge
wintry solar
#

Better animation

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Felt like it had weight to it

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It's only con was that it killed you and that, while big, could be played around or held until it was safe.

brisk meadow
#

The targeted Flame beam on the hex Masks in maisara caverns would go hard with old ks

wintry solar
#

And targeted mechanics but I think that just added to old KS

bright lodge
#

I agree killing part is the worst thing and playing around it was miserable

wintry solar
#

New KS only positive is that you can grapple and use defensives during it

thorny zinc
#

the new icon is better imo

cinder relic
#

Other upside, it looks cool

wintry solar
#

It does not

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I was actually about to bring that up

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It's so jank

formal thunder
#

it looks like Mesa's 4 from Warframe

bright lodge
#

It doesn’t look that bad, but not as flashy

wintry solar
#

Your character does a slide show between guns pointing in random directions and off hand stabbing

formal thunder
#

old killing spree definitely looked cooler though imo

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if they added some movement into it again would be neat

indigo token
formal thunder
#

something along the lines of DH aoe spell I cant remember the name off

wintry solar
#

It's an animation for Disney adults in that this kind of thing is in every other MMO ever and people are like "OH EM GEE ITS JUST LIKE LEAGUE" or whatever

thorny zinc
wintry solar
#

Unoriginal and uninspired

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Get this filth off my spec, off my class, and off my game

bright lodge
#

That is too far

wintry solar
#

It's not far enough tbh

bright lodge
#

Choice node perhaps?

wintry solar
#

With what?

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Old KS? Old KS would be taken every time

wintry solar
bright lodge
#

I don’t think so, no. Granted the same balancing

wintry solar
#

In theory sure but that never happens

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Except util

stuck sparrow
#

old ks i love porting into bad shit

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and flipping my camera multiple times

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!

bright lodge
#

Everyone would take the strongest dmg numbers anyways

cinder relic
#

even is old KS was like 2% better nobody would play it

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Too much larp about old KS

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It was just bad

stuck sparrow
#

i just want new KS to visibly move a healthbar

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and actually hit hard

wintry solar
#

Those are actually features

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All they have to do is give it prio, remove the offhand attacks from the animation, and buff it.

bright lodge
#

Well it was killing us, which is > all other positives, but still…

wintry solar
#

I think you know my take on that

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I'd rather risk it

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But that's just me

bright lodge
#

I don’t think this is about risk

wintry solar
#

You mentioned killing us so I assumed it was about risk

waxen scarab
#

whats with the pinned message are we getting reworked or something?

quiet ore
#

There is also definitely some hard to reproduce bug where if you fire a btte with gravedigger ready at a target and it dies before impact, you don't get a CD reset, but also don't consume GD stacks, but also actually get a bonus refund of 6 GD stacks instantly putting you at the cap of 10.

wintry solar
#

Trickster getting a new talent

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That brings it out of obscurity

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@mighty pivot

outer meteor
#

@tender rapids u need 19 ws cuh?

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need a feral

mighty pivot
tender rapids
wintry solar
#

He was not a fan lol

static crescent
#

ehm, idk just dummy tested trickster outlaw, starving seemed to be real

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nothing is changing regarding this i guess in patch

fickle stream
fickle stream
#

this is a buff

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or nerf

buoyant cosmos
mighty pivot
wintry solar
#

Okay well my last one didn't mind

cinder relic
#

Guys

quaint sable
#

But it makes it no longer gamba so noit great.

glass mortar
#

my highest backflip streak is 9

buoyant cosmos
#

Noticed that last week

oblique flicker
#

btw any chance we see HO trickster with .5 changes?

craggy barn
#

ambush would needa get a buff

cinder relic
#

ambush needs more payoffs than it has rn

random stirrup
#

does ambush not greatly benefit from the bonus builder crit damage

oblique flicker
#

yea i was thinking the same thing

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maybe 150% crit dmg is what it needs

craggy barn
#

shrug

cinder relic
#

Hard to path

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but idk if its even been tested

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It could be

craggy barn
#

its time to test it

echo tapir
cinder relic
echo tapir
#

i dont actually have an x account so couldnt look at comments 😛

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is that just a hidden thing with it xD

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didnt notice i was special jumping

craggy barn
#

does it add +1 luck, because thats just the same as the minature roulette wheel from undermine

echo tapir
#

it adds + 1 sparkle 🙂

glass mortar
#

with the current talent pathing making an aoe build for HO is also turbo cursed

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u need to give up so many strong talents to take the basic aoe stuff

vapid sundial
#

wwwww blizzard

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login!

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game is fixed!

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saved!

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@lavish shoal TLI cancelled we can flip always now!

frank hamlet
#

Is sin good with crit haste?

cinder relic
#

all 3 rogue specs are crit haste rn

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Its just sub has strict cutoff values for haste

frank hamlet
#

Sweet

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I don't know what im doing wrong with outlaw in raid so I'm gonna try Sin in raid

grim spear
#

10%?omg

cinder relic
#

Big buff

pearl topaz
#

Are we seriously praising old KS

#

yall need to get on tranquilisers and fix your ADHD that makes you skitz when you have to wait 3 seconds to press a button

cinder relic
#

Like

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At a certain point we have to admit we've lost the plot

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new KS has its issues but idk man

#

Suicide button was not fun

placid ocean
#

is prep the recommended take for keys?

cinder relic
#

Its okay

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I think zac plays it and says its good but its kinda medium overall

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U can not play it if u dont want

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But its a lot better on .5 so

placid ocean
#

with trickster?

cinder relic
#

yer

glass mortar
#

who is glazing old KS

bright crane
placid ocean
#

me

glass mortar
#

none of the normal complainers in here do that

bright crane
#

And they’re legit exactly the same thing

glass mortar
#

as zac said they managed to rework ks from the most shit spell in the game to the second most shit spell in the game

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big upgrade

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halleluah or something

placid ocean
#

I glaze the old ks. I'm fully aware that it was bad, but I still liked it

cinder relic
lavish shoal
#

lmao

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crazy reaction

lavish shoal
#

sub is not haste mast!?

cinder relic
#

Nop

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Probs even less on reset?

frank hamlet
lavish shoal
#

idk

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maybe im building wrong

fathom bramble
#

mastery kind of giga in keys though

cinder relic
#

Its haste > crit => mastery

vivid vessel
#

ye crit just better in st

lavish shoal
#

rlly!>!>?

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wtf

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bro im cheesin then

vivid vessel
#

not even close also

lavish shoal
#

for sub

vivid vessel
#

even at like 30% crit crit is still better for me

#

ye for sub

static crescent
#

Is sub also getting giga buffed with trickster changes?

frank hamlet
#

So If I have 37 crit and 22 haste I can run 3 specs

vivid vessel
#

tho maybe it is the fact im playing with puzzle box idk

cinder relic
lavish shoal
#

im doing statweight rn

cinder relic
#

Both are buffed tho

lavish shoal
#

oh shit

cinder relic
#

I mean sub stats dont matter cuz its haste to 700 and then u just go crit and mastery

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They are like, the same

lavish shoal
#

u right

static crescent
#

Noway this is going/staying on live

cinder relic
#

Crit is more st

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Likely even more on reset as well

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cuz cloud cover good

lavish shoal
#

i should prob recraft all my haste mast gear to crit then eh

static crescent
#

Absolutely zero chance lmao

lavish shoal
#

for dualspeccing stuff

static crescent
#

If this would go live, wouldnt we be like top simming dps class?

vivid vessel
#

ok tbf

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i looked at my keys overall

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and i still dont beat arms

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with 15% more damage

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so

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maybe its fine

static crescent
#

Not to mention the actual meta shit

vivid vessel
#

@cinder relic this is real btw

static crescent
#

I assume arms isnt the top performer compared to these aug/lock/devourer/uhdk things

near rock
#

maybe the arms warrior is just better

vivid vessel
#

ye prolly

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maybe its skill issue

cinder relic
#

Lol

#

Also the year is 2026

vivid vessel
#

this is magister 20 we did today

cinder relic
#

were talking about "highest simming" as if it matters at all

vivid vessel
#

i dont think i played bad really

cinder relic
#

Feral was a high simming spec look how unplaayble it is in raid rn

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Rogue is ass rn

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It genuinely need stuff like this to be strong

earnest lantern
vivid vessel
#

if you buff me by 15%

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i do 210k overall

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so like

earnest lantern
#

lol

vivid vessel
#

i still dont beat my arms

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and he still bring 5% buff

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and he died in that key

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like 4 times

cinder relic
#

arms is v good

true jackal
#

assa rn

vivid vessel
#

assa does infinite more damage than outlaw in keyus atm

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so

true jackal
#

on high target count

earnest lantern
#

doing 110k overall in 12s with this

true jackal
#

assa i like drug

vivid vessel
#

ye bro because outlaw is goated on low target count

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xd

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no not on high target count

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on every target count

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and st

true jackal
#

dude go into aa first pull as good geard assa

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i hit 1.2m

vivid vessel
#

i think i did 800k aoe one day

near rock
#

enough with the anime

true jackal
#

:DDD

vivid vessel
#

you just need to roll jackpoot first roll

static crescent
#

I guess outlaw does more pure st then Assa tho right

vivid vessel
#

no i dont think so

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casual showed me his logs

true jackal
#

but i think 3 traged outlaw is still better

vivid vessel
#

he does the same st as me

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and then they can funnel

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so

true jackal
#

or lower target in general

vivid vessel
#

i mean

#

open wcl rn

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check vanguard lil bro

true jackal
#

lamoooo

#

:DDDDDDDD

vivid vessel
#

its 2/3 target

true jackal
#

ok mb g

glass mortar
#

before the last round of sin buffs rogue was 3 of the 5 worst 3 target cleave specs in the game

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now we are 2

true jackal
#

ngl i think midnight rogue is more fun then tww so that still w

lavish shoal
#

W spec

vivid vessel
#

w

lavish shoal
#

im gonna play sub btw

vivid vessel
#

on vanguard?

#

ye you are cooked

lavish shoal
#

i mean

cinder relic
#

Sin is so easy on that fight

lavish shoal
#

unlucky

cinder relic
#

that fight is mega downtime too as melee

#

SO like

vivid vessel
#

sin doesnt even do multi dotting anymore

cinder relic
#

Sin just makes it easier

vivid vessel
#

its kinda crazy

cinder relic
#

Yeah CT mega QOL

#

and no deathmark either

vivid vessel
#

qol

true jackal
#

god bless CT

cinder relic
#

Its so vibes

vivid vessel
#

idk if i would call that qol

true jackal
#

CT IS SO GOOD

lavish shoal
#

"crit better than mast"

vivid vessel
#

i think its rather cringe to play a multidot spec

#

and not multidot

lavish shoal
#

u guys r cooked

cinder relic
vivid vessel
#

i did not like multidotting

cinder relic
#

"Full crit haste swap"

vivid vessel
#

ut also like

cinder relic
#

Hello?

vivid vessel
#

@lavish shoal send sim

#

i fix it for you

#

you are cooked

#

prolly

cinder relic
#

u dont go FULL CRIT HASTE

vivid vessel
#

bet you dont even know how to sim

cinder relic
#

U got haste to 700

vivid vessel
#

NOOB

cinder relic
#

and then go crit => mastery

#

thats it

#

LOL

vivid vessel
#

NOOBA

lavish shoal
#

i mean

cinder relic
#

U dont go "FULL CRIT HASTE"

lavish shoal
#

u

vivid vessel
#

u

#

noob

lavish shoal
#

lil bro

lavish shoal
#

u dont think i understand

vivid vessel
#

send sim lil bro

#

i fix it for you

lavish shoal
#

that u dont want more than 700 haste

strange kelp
lavish shoal
#

i just swapped mastery on crafted gear to crit

#

and went for crit > mast

near rock
#

waltuh...

vivid vessel
#

wtf

#

i think dekai

#

you are bad at wow

#

thats my take

cinder relic
#

LOLOL

lavish shoal
#

bro

#

i just simmed

vivid vessel
#

ye

#

i own you

lavish shoal
#

my current gear

vivid vessel
#

skill issue

lavish shoal
#

where i am mast > crit

vivid vessel
#

would never happen to me

lavish shoal
#

and simmed mastery flask vs crit flask

#

and mastery flask

vivid vessel
#

you are right

lavish shoal
#

is framemogging

vivid vessel
#

BUT

#

still gave you .3% dps swapping that cloak

#

ez

lavish shoal
#

its literally 109 dps

vivid vessel
#

i outsim you lil bro

lavish shoal
vivid vessel
#

also tbf

#

swapping everything to crit

lavish shoal
#

swap cloak go down to 664

vivid vessel
#

is within margin of error

#

so its ok

#

you can play both spec

#

with crit haste

#

insane no

clear tulip
#

still blue parsed fishge

vivid vessel
#

NOO B !

lavish shoal
#

idk i might play sin on vanguard but

vivid vessel
#

idk i like that i currently can play all 3 specs

lavish shoal
#

i was looking forward to sitting out that boss

vivid vessel
#

with basically the same gear

lavish shoal
#

and then they toild me

vivid vessel
#

its kinda banger

lavish shoal
#

we want atrophic poison

#

hello!>?

vivid vessel
#

atrophic !

#

@cinder relic i thought about it

#

you were right

#

i was wrong

#

im now ready to do damage

#

ty for showing me the light

haughty moat
#

we will start paladins on sunday too, gonna be fun^^

clear tulip
vivid vessel
#

is it saladar?

#

i only look at boss damage on tht boss

clear tulip
#

saladbar yea

vivid vessel
#

ye bro