zac weak aura + 20% dps
#outlaw
vivid vessel
slim hare
you expect blizzard to hacve a full fledge feature on release?
vivid vessel
invest now
slim hare
delusionnal
vivid vessel
ye im not doing math
fathom bramble
just put a single notch in your AR bar at the 5s mark 🤔
vivid vessel
no !
glass mortar
zac......
vivid vessel
have you seen my new tea tracker weran
cinder relic
just put a single notch in your AR bar at the 5s mark 🤔
True
glass mortar
have you seen my new tea tracker weran
no wtf show
fathom bramble
purple line op
vivid vessel
no wtf show
slim hare
first whats the bug
glass mortar
LOL
slim hare
i missed it
craggy barn
with fart cloud we cant pre-ar as we approach a pack and have to press it while were already in the middle of everything?
vivid vessel
its so i can just watch my energy
without looking down at tea cd
when im pooling
to not proc tea
fathom bramble
is that notch for how high energy must be to not proc tea on SS cast?
cinder relic
with fart cloud we cant pre-ar as we approach a pack and have to press it while ...
You will want to press it where ur planting, or lose a decent amount of uptime on it yeah
glass mortar
i mean holding AR is pretty bad especially with how long some of these gathers are in m+
more realistically u just give up fart cloud uptime...
slim hare
classic blizzard design
vivid vessel
imagine the amount of dps you lose by not using zac's weak aura 
fathom bramble
I mean if you give the cloud that much value you can always still attack early and not AR
plain whale
Why you got a crosshair on your screen?
fathom bramble
useless might be a stretch
glass mortar
holding ar snowballs into lost tea charges, rolling single buffs etc
vivid vessel
Why you got a crosshair on your screen?
for the headshots on bte
glass mortar
and trickster is already scraping the gutter for resources
glass mortar
at least the cloud is just damage and doesnt tie into resources at all
fathom bramble
I mean if you spend 4 seconds in the cloud at least you get 14 seconds of smokescreen
craggy barn
ye
fathom bramble
and then you AR again 15 seconds into the pull anyway
first AR doesn't matter that much if you would clip the 20 second smoke anyway
assuming prep
wait how does trickster run prep
or does it at all
cinder relic
It does
gaunt phoenix
you remove summarily
fathom bramble
oh I see you just drop dispatcher
fathom bramble
yeah
when I was messing with trickster(no sims to support my decisions) I was just dropped kir
glass mortar
wait wtf zac trickster plays flickering steel....
fathom bramble
but that was when you could also actually have sleight so
glass mortar
1.5% dr lost.....
fathom bramble
rerolling without sleight is doomed
vivid vessel
wait wtf zac trickster plays flickering steel....
not mine
glass mortar
time to crash out some more..
glass mortar
ye
cinder relic
time to crash out some more..
Cloud cover gives u a shitload of added DR
gaunt phoenix
thief vers might be 0.4% ahead for some ppl
craggy barn
10% jeezus
glass mortar
i know it was a joke guys plis
fathom bramble
5% baseline and jumped to 15% during cloud
no jokes allowed
I just finished my coffee and don't see them yet
slim hare
wait does the cloud cover works on raid bosses too ?
craggy barn
at least other people see our cloud right
glass mortar
yes
vivid vessel
let me yoink it
https://wago.io/hbwfBDAV9 @glass mortar For this to work you have to hide the weak aura behind your rtb icon from the cdm btw
craggy barn
huge buff
vivid vessel
its just a trick
vivid vessel
np
fathom bramble
oh I love that trick actually
craggy barn
wtf bug exploiting???
cinder relic
wait does the cloud cover works on raid bosses too ?
why wouldnt it?
glass mortar
i was kinda vibe gaming not paying attention in a key on friday and i lost an extended jackpot to the bug because i wasnt paying enough attention
fathom bramble
stacking WAs that are just always on but have the right priority to cover eachother
glass mortar
i just glanced down, saw my buff gone and fatfinger rerolled without thinking
vivid vessel
well its not always on, its only on when rtb is up
vivid vessel
when rtb isnt up its this
you can decide to not show anything if you want tho
thats also fine
fathom bramble
wait does the cloud cover works on raid bosses too ?
while it looks visually like smokebomb it has none of the restrictions smokebomb had and you don't need to think of it in that manner
it's just a buff on the player
craggy barn
what da helly is this bug zac
vivid vessel
what da helly is this bug zac
the cdm sometimes will drop your rtb buff display
slim hare
can you explain the rtb bug too ?
glass mortar
sometimes ur RtB buff just disspears from CDM
craggy barn
ah
slim hare
it's just a buff on the player
ho okk ty
vivid vessel
so you dont see rtb anymore
craggy barn
even through cdm addons?
craggy barn
or just natty cdm
vivid vessel
multiple times
glass mortar
i dont have any cdm addons
craggy barn
hmm
glass mortar
and mine does it like twice a week
gaunt phoenix
oh ive never seen it
craggy barn
ive never noticed it drop with arc ui
vivid vessel
oh ive never seen it
you might have not noticed
gaunt phoenix
i notice things
gaunt phoenix
you might think not
vivid vessel
i thought i did aswell
fathom bramble
ive never noticed it drop with arc ui
mine drops with arcui
craggy barn
gdi
vivid vessel
but you would be surprised
gaunt phoenix
hm
near rock
can it be tuesday already
glass mortar
u guys r probably rerolling over buffs very rarely
fathom bramble
I feel like it has to have some kind of specific cause
glass mortar
and not even realizing
fathom bramble
but it's so hard to nail down
shy meteor
do we need to track smoke bomb buff on cdm then?
glass mortar
i did that a ton the first 2 weeks
karmic gust
zac where's your ui ? Wanna try it, mine's a bit too minimalist
glass mortar
its very infrequent
and doesnt happen connected to anything i can tell
like shortly after rring or kir or anything like that
craggy barn
ill vibe it out fuck it
fathom bramble
what if it only happens while you have cto as a selected conduit in your shadowlands guy 🤔
craggy barn
hmmmm
glass mortar
!!
fathom bramble
thoughts
craggy barn
huge brain
what if only happens if u arent forsaken
thoughts?
ive never seen it and im forsaken
fathom bramble
I'm actually going to get untalent my cto on the shadowlands soulbind
this random thought must be the fix
gaunt phoenix
lmao
glass mortar
sleight would never hurt us like that...
fathom bramble
it can happen without sleight
craggy barn
ok
gaunt phoenix
when I was messing with trickster(no sims to support my decisions) I was just dr...
hm
karmic gust
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQ-spyZPGZ4y5diilAnap5nEybU7fWY5nFUN...
ty le Z
fathom bramble
hmmm indeed
craggy barn
what of they nuke kir
fathom bramble
yeah it has two whole conditionals on when you should press it
craggy barn
kir is complicated and is 7min cd!! insane!!
gaunt phoenix
believe it or not, it's lower without kir
craggy barn
7 minutes!!!!
glass mortar
!!!!!
glass mortar
using the 3 buff or 2 buff kir rule
glass mortar
i just like purple
craggy barn
remove!
glass mortar
what do u want me to sayh
karmic gust
what's hard you look at icon color if it's good you press a button
craggy barn
??? now i need addon to see buf to kir???
erf
wtf
kir does no damage and u can mess up real ez! not good
kir is just another roll the bones and we dont like that either
gaunt phoenix
sometimes you have it in your head you're going to RTB > KIR and then you hit them in the wrong order
glass mortar
nice troll zomb
cinder relic
Literally was just abt to say that
craggy barn
ez trol
glass mortar
gaunt phoenix
and you're like well
craggy barn
my rtb is on r, my kir is on alt r
fathom bramble
I wonder why they even let you cast kir with no RTB active
craggy barn
sometimes i kir and insta roll
glass mortar
solo i can do u one worse
craggy barn
bc im dumb
glass mortar
i had a seat 12 last week
craggy barn
and let go of alt too fast
glass mortar
did the whole opened rolling 3 2 buffs in a row
w/e i guess i'll kir this
15s later i look and i have no buff at all
craggy barn
i shoild change it lol
glass mortar
"wait did i waste kir into the void i forgot to roll at all 3 times in a row???"
nope it was just the bug and i was high and forgot
rolled over a 45s 2 buff
karmic gust
i have rtb on t and kir on shift t fine for me
shift t so annoying to press you just cant press it on accident
glass mortar
u missed it
native tinsel
fuck
craggy barn
he loves it
vivid vessel
bro you think im sleeping or what
glass mortar
we had an epic multi hour crashout
craggy barn
its like i can hear him now
glass mortar
if u glaze trickster enough we culd get a repeat tho maybe
vivid vessel
you guys think im a noob or what
glass mortar
yes!
craggy barn
nooba
vivid vessel
i reacted min 1 when i could sim it
native tinsel
pretty much yea
craggy barn
nooba zac with nooba trinket cant handle fart cloud
placid ocean
you guys think im a noob or what
Yes
native tinsel
please tell me that sub and law have similar stats
native tinsel
thank god
vivid vessel
crit haste
carmine mountain
hahahah<
vivid vessel
all 3 specs
placid ocean
Just throw your highest ilvl piece on and call it a day
cinder relic
And outlaw is too kinda but not really
vivid vessel
Sub is just breakpointy
eh
vivid vessel
like my sub sim
has 800 haste
and it seems whatever
i think i went the other breakpoint or smth idk
its fine tho
works out
easy
glass mortar
LMAO
vivid vessel
goated
lucid sparrow
peak crash out
vivid vessel
im so good at this bro
keen belfry
i was driving late to get some food and just loving disc chat
placid ocean
Why 6
craggy barn
because 7
carmine mountain
cause 5 is bad
craggy barn
7 max cp
gaunt phoenix
trickster doesnt finish at 5 ever
placid ocean
Why is 5 bad
craggy barn
so math wants to build to 6
glass mortar
theres not enough factors pushing dispatch at 5 for it to be good at 5 for trickster so u build past it
nocturne haven
Good evening fellow rogue
vivid vessel
Why is 5 bad
outlaw is a spec that likes to utilise its whole cp pool, often like that, fatebound saves it rn cause coins and apex proc at 5 cp
gaunt phoenix
cuz as trickster if you finish at 5 you get stuck at 5
you dont have SS to bump you from 1 to 6
keen belfry
i think its so funny that if you are 1 opp proc, your next builder doesnt matter 90% of the time. ss then ps or ps then ss
vivid vessel
and its the first season we haev this awkard thing really
keen belfry
as trickster
native tinsel
does the smokescreen work like the pvp one?
placid ocean
outlaw is a spec that likes to utilise its whole cp pool, often like that, fateb...
Thank you
vivid vessel
so we are fucked
native tinsel
like, that radius
gaunt phoenix
no
glass mortar
no it doesnt have any impact on LoS
native tinsel
i meant sizewise
glass mortar
seems to be about the same yea
native tinsel
hmm, so movement might be an issue
lucid sparrow
wait
wouldnt that be sick
if the smoke bomb also created los
for casters
so they run in
glass mortar
yea movement will be a lil bit annoying
fathom bramble
for allied casters
glass mortar
make it block casters LoS
craggy barn
bring back smoke bomb
glass mortar
if they wanted to cast they shouldnt have been in melee or
lucid sparrow
obviously not allied om
craggy barn
imagine if trickster cloud cover did los in pvp
LOL
trickster just counter everyone
fathom bramble
maybe it does who knows
craggy barn
no parry and los
fathom bramble
no one has checked this talent in pvp I gaurantee it
lucid sparrow
@vivid vessel can u find out if it creates los for mobs
cinder relic
I love the internet
lucid sparrow
casters
fathom bramble
no parry and los
is it actually no parry in pvp after they adjusted it
or still -3% parry
fathom bramble
well it wasn't no parry before it was just -3%
but it was -3% for everyone that was attacking them
they made it personal to the rogue, but idk if they fixed it to actually be no parry
gaunt phoenix
big stinky
grave rose
Ill be excited with you Guy
lucid sparrow
2007 graphical smoke bomb holy shit they need to update it
next shuttle
Hi, reggarding the latest pin: What does it mean by "dipping into it"?
Isn't the smoke screen dropped on top of you? Or does it mean if the pack is moved out of it?
abstract frost
Can you even see floor mechanics under that? 😂
craggy barn
no need, just die
gaunt phoenix
Hi, reggarding the latest pin: What does it mean by "dipping into it"?
Isn't the...
it is on top of you but in keys you will have to move
glass mortar
why would you want to see anything other then ur lovely fart cloud
gaunt phoenix
and ideally you dip back into the cloud to refresh the 10s before it ends
karmic gust
Can you even see floor mechanics under that? 😂
That’s what I meant by imagine first pull in AA with ts
placid ocean
I hope cloud cover is so dense that nobody can see through it
abstract frost
Surely other people won’t see it
native tinsel
It is way bigger than the pvp one
oh, thats nice at least
cinder relic
I double checked, the entire group still sees it
craggy barn
jeezus
craggy barn
fat cloud
cinder relic
Yes LOL
craggy barn
WAIT
glass mortar
based af
craggy barn
in pvp would be op no?
glass mortar
i 100% support that
devout garden
casually farts into group
wintry solar
and they wont know
And bait trinkets and CDs
devout garden
seems fine
wintry solar
Imagine
craggy barn
And bait trinkets and CDs
ez
glass mortar
ok speaking of aoes that bait you
lucid sparrow
hunter owl bird shit thing
native tinsel
guy, i know this is not the channel but, have you check if it has substantial buffs for the other specs as well?
lucid sparrow
so many specs have this issue
glass mortar
i have been dodging allerias aoe void poop on the floor
karmic gust
Fart spray hero talent wasn’t on my bingo card
glass mortar
who designs friendly aoes to look like this
it 100% looks like an evil death void zone
she doesnt even stand in it either why would i
cinder relic
Darkness looks the same idk
shadow trellis
is the pve one visible by friendly players?
gaunt phoenix
it 100% looks like an evil death void zone
really
cinder relic
is the pve one visible by friendly players?
No clue
near rock
I heard it was
fathom bramble
does it look denser than on live ?
native tinsel
does it look denser than on live ?
may be graphics setting
fathom bramble
oh true
cinder relic
does it look denser than on live ?
Graphics settings probs
near rock
does it look denser than on live ?
he had chipotle before he casted it
cinder relic
This just out the box .5
gaunt phoenix
from zac
fathom bramble
yeah that'd be it
karmic stag
That just adds to the outlaw RNG fantasy. You never know if you’re standing in the bad
craggy barn
anyone have that camera distance cvar command?
devout garden
That just adds to the outlaw RNG fantasy. You never know if you’re standing in t...
old ks
craggy barn
gotcha
wintry solar
yeah that'd be it
/console spelleffectlevel 300
Actually you know what?
/console spelleffectlevel 900
vivid vessel
zac u must have it right
nah i lost it
wintry solar
Triple it
karmic gust
Something like this ? /console cameraDistanceMaxZoomFactor 2.6
native tinsel
i gues ill talent trickster in 10s now to get used to it
worn patrol
hey, is the cloud cover change only for sub and assassin rogues?
deep sequoia
Trickster is only outlaw and sub
native tinsel
no
glass mortar
trickster assassination sounds like itll go hard
cant believe theyd steal our hero talent like that
fathom bramble
what if we run echoing reprimand now
violet ferry
cant believe theyd steal our hero talent like that
Rogues, amirite?
fathom bramble
did you happen to check echoing reprimand @gaunt phoenix
deep sequoia
what if we run echoing reprimand now
I miss echoing reprimand before they changed it
fathom bramble
it is still legally a generator
cinder relic
hey, is the cloud cover change only for sub and assassin rogues?
outlaw and sub
fathom bramble
idk if it makes it good enough to take with 150% crit dam
native tinsel
cant believe theyd steal our hero talent like that
to be completely fair, the way that the text was written does make it seem like trickster is inside the assassination part
glass mortar
wonder if its still coded as a generator
deep sequoia
What does it even do now?
deep sequoia
I don’t think I’ve looked at it since the change
glass mortar
sure but that is likely the spell id for the actual ER ability because they never cleanthat stuff up
flag and stuff is also probably still in there idk
but i could see it happening through spaghetti
sacred rune
to be completely fair, the way that the text was written does make it seem like ...
damn, these assassination players, stealing trickster from us
fathom bramble
the highlighted one is the correct damage event for the new echoing reprimand
should work on fazed
kind of scuff since PS doesn't consume it though
so you would have to actually go out of your way to consume it before using another finisher in a lot of cases
glass mortar
loktark be like "trickster has too many resources actually, what if we could take even more away"
keen belfry
lok really wants to make a heavy shitter echoing reprimand builder build
timid portal
lok really wants to make a heavy shitter echoing reprimand builder build
echoing reprimand with 1 fth
fathom bramble
you guys are not prepared for the kind of demon builds that can arise if we get enough haste/energy
timid portal
60% haste and we play 1 buff
gaunt phoenix
fathom bramble
yeah that makes sense
carmine mountain
orange ER is just weird ngl
keen belfry
its close
wide coral
kyrian er was goated
carmine mountain
SL Kyrian rogue was so good xD
fathom bramble
like how fast action is 'only' 2.5% behind prep or something
but that actually represents being nearly 5 times better
lucid sparrow
why does details sometimes show way lower numbers
keen belfry
what if fast action becomes good at 50% crit and trickster free crit (u cant take cuz fart cloud competing)(
lucid sparrow
and completely bug out
karmic gust
Skill issue
cinder relic
In game meter bogged
keen belfry
why does details sometimes show way lower numbers
happens all the time on the pull after firsst boss skyreach
every doing 100k dps in 7 target pull
lucid sparrow
so irritating
keen belfry
nbd
fathom bramble
unfortunately it is from the wow dps meter that details reskins
I don't think you can fix it
gaunt phoenix
In game meter bogged
bog slosher
karmic gust
It’s just a pretty skin now and some automation no real added value
wintry solar
I don't even track dmg with it anymore, it's so useless.
karmic gust
You can’t even track buff uptime anymore
cinder relic
This is what I'm gonna do when I get you @gaunt phoenix
fathom bramble
might as well hide details and just log instead
karmic gust
Which was like super useful
keen belfry
its legit always the pull after first boss skyreach
fathom bramble
I like it how details still has a dropdown for everything we lost
wintry solar
This is what I'm gonna do when I get you <@921608341048930304>
Him squishy
fathom bramble
just to remind you if you happen to click it
keen belfry
how come
maybe u get into combat fast enough that details combines boss dps too?
or if u think about ur outside in the sun for so long
meter gets fried
all them beams
it fixes when u go inside
karmic gust
Meter is supposed to reset when combat states changes tho
keen belfry
says you
karmic gust
Even if I vanish it doesn’t bug
lucid sparrow
and my ui bounces around sometimes in and out of combat
karmic gust
U using stock ui ?
lucid sparrow
no
karmic gust
What then
vivid vessel
maybe u get into combat fast enough that details combines boss dps too?
you are right
details doenst reset
after boss
it just stay there
cinder relic
So next week we're all becoming tricksters?
Yes
gaunt phoenix
smokers
native tinsel
the thing is, kinda blow that the flow of the pistol shot does not work with trickster right
keen belfry
you are right
ive been right all tier
karmic gust
Same when you pull the pack just before the ick boss in pos
gleaming reef
aiks
timid portal
i would love to see them do somenthing about low target count
gleaming reef
I hate killing spree.
gaunt phoenix
we're so barack
gaunt phoenix
why'
native tinsel
goddamn outlaw is gonna pop in voidspire
clear tulip
this is the buff we need so i can be put into melee soak for vanguard
native tinsel
the paladins fight is perfect
gleaming reef
For the smoke
does it look like smoke bomb?
and I need to be in it to do the dmg?
wintry solar
But bigger
fathom bramble
it applys a buff with a 10 second duration to your character
karmic gust
Be in it at start and end
gleaming reef
Oh cool
fathom bramble
you just need to be in it at the end to refresh the 10 seconds
gleaming reef
Makes grapple more useful
fathom bramble
or as close to the end as you can reasonably get
shy sandal
if i got all crafted items i need that are bis can i like make a myth OH dagger for the higher ilvl?
tired wolf
!tricks
ornate heathBOT
gaunt phoenix
yes
karmic gust
Both bis weapons are crafted ones no ?
harsh forge
please god remove preparation please
fathom bramble
but there is a lot of options that are somewhat close in certain gearsets
gleaming reef
Isn't the one from PIT the bis offhand tho?
harsh forge
PLEASE NOT KILLING SPREE PREPARATION H
shy sandal
yea but i have no acess to a myth aleria wep so isnt crafted bis for me?
normal quail
fathom bramble
Isn't the one from PIT the bis offhand tho?
weapon embell is better than armor/jewellry embel
so you can drop a few ilvls on the offhand and have it be worth
gleaming reef
weapon embell is better than armor/jewellry embel
oh.
shy sandal
but im talking abour crafting both MH and OH without any embell just for the myth ilvl
gleaming reef
What's the bis bis combination for M+ and Raid? I was following what's on Wowhead by foreverguy 😛
fathom bramble
but im talking abour crafting both MH and OH without any embell just for the myt...
well if you have acrafted oh you should move your embel to it
in general crafting weapons just for ilvl is good regardless though
karmic gust
What's the bis bis combination for M+ and Raid? I was following what's on Wowhea...
I just look at data on murlok.io
gaunt phoenix
there's no bis unless you have access to every item in the game
gleaming reef
I have a crafted MH but my embell is on ring (prism) and boots (arcano something)
dim parrot
So boys if 13% buff stays through we still middle of the pack or
fathom bramble
yeah like when we say 'bis' it might not necessarily even be the best thing for you to wear in your situation
just a more reliably equipable item, but context of your character always matters a lot
karmic gust
If you don’t have access to an item just sim your other options
cinder relic
I'd say rogue is just good if nothing changes from rn lol
fathom bramble
dagger crafted OH with embell should be ideal in many situations though
gaunt phoenix
yea
cinder relic
U have to remember paladins exists which skewes wcl a lot
karmic gust
Pretty sure you can top meters with just your mouse when playing pally
near rock
So boys if 13% buff stays through we still middle of the pack or
13% and more burst, I'd say its one of the best melees in the game
shy sandal
well if you have acrafted oh you should move your embel to it
yea but i have also crafted ring and boots which have my embles they are also myth
near rock
if nothing changes
gleaming reef
I'm like wondering how I'll deal with stat changes and muscle memory shit shifting from Fatebound to trickster.
fathom bramble
yea but i have also crafted ring and boots which have my embles they are also my...
you just move the embel
karmic gust
yea but i have also crafted ring and boots which have my embles they are also my...
You have to drop one to put one on dagger
fathom bramble
recraft with the sparkly dust or whatever it is this tier
fathom bramble
and then craft a dagger with the correct embel
shy sandal
i move both embles on weps?
karmic gust
No
gleaming reef
I swap my ring (prism) to MH embel?
karmic gust
1 on weapon 1 on boots
gaunt phoenix
I swap my ring (prism) to MH embel?
its probably 0.5% more dmg
gleaming reef
ah
dim parrot
Trickster not even harder to play than FB right
I forget
Just more cringe building on 5 right
random stirrup
13% and more burst, I'd say its one of the best melees in the game
trickster rogue stonks up this patch 
surprising strikes survives at least a bit
keen belfry
ur buttons kinda dont matter as tricskter
karmic gust
Not necessarily harder but way more cringe
tight kernel
I play obr and parse 99 as outlaw ez
vivid vessel
you cant coup on target without the debuff
gaunt phoenix
probably should see it on nameplates
shy sandal
how does swapping embell from a ring to a wep increase the dmg??? they both have the same ilvl i dont get it
vivid vessel
you ahve no choice anyway
gaunt phoenix
for the random spots it matters
vivid vessel
its not like
you had control
over what you see
on your plates
bud
and that buff is shown
dim parrot
Kek
glass mortar
how does swapping embell from a ring to a wep increase the dmg??? they both have...
they are different embellishments entirely
one is stronger then the other
karmic gust
how does swapping embell from a ring to a wep increase the dmg??? they both have...
The embells do different stuff
gaunt phoenix
how does swapping embell from a ring to a wep increase the dmg??? they both have...
the weapon embellishment is darkmoon sigil: hunt or void
the ring embellishment is prismatic focusing iris
they are different effects that do different damage
shy sandal
aaa u mean the darkmoon thing
tight kernel
how does swapping embell from a ring to a wep increase the dmg??? they both have...
Hey man I think they are different embells
gaunt phoenix
true
karmic gust
I simmed way higher when dropping one embell for the other
upper hawk
do you think they'll leave it like that with one talent switch giving such a big boost?
gaunt phoenix
maybe
tight kernel
50/50
upper hawk
i know it's the wild west once a tier is into the patch phase, but that seems wild for one talent
clear tulip
nah they'll send the intern into this discord, they'll see the post and make it that the 10s duration is set and you cant refresh it
harsh forge
i think my favorite part about playing rogue in 2026 is sitting there for three seconds not pressing any buttons bc i don’t have energy
tight kernel
Can we sandbag sims
gaunt phoenix
No
near rock
we're not hunters
karmic gust
i think my favorite part about playing rogue in 2026 is sitting there for three ...
Best feeling in the game fr
shy sandal
how much better is the MH embell compared to the boot one?
tight kernel
vivid vessel
sandbagging sims doesnt matter
karmic gust
i think my favorite part about playing rogue in 2026 is sitting there for three ...
Pretty rare occurrence tho ngl
harsh forge
It’s called ENERGY MANAGEMENT and it’s ENGAGING
vivid vessel
they wil see you doing 10% more damge on reset bro
tight kernel
True lol
clear tulip
sandbag live parses, get TOMRUS to vouch for outlaw buffs
still matrix
its ok they wont nerf us
for atleast like 1 week
if they actually hotfix us
or insta patch us
they are so cringe
gaunt phoenix
how much better is the MH embell compared to the boot one?
not much its like 0.5% dmg
upper hawk
and this change is with .05? Like in 4 days or whatever?
tight kernel
Ye
harsh forge
two weeks from now “Outlaw is slightly over performing in AOE so we’re nerfing blade flurry again”
karmic gust
Imagine hot fixing this when they giga buffed classes for no reason and forgot about them
still matrix
how much better is the MH embell compared to the boot one?
for me its less than the boot/ring embel , wep was lower dam
tight kernel
I guess I can stop playing Aug now
gaunt phoenix
curious
keen belfry
is there any builder rules that exist in trickster? only i can think of that matters is 2-3cp u press ps
dim parrot
Yo pimp
karmic gust
Insane rage bait
clear tulip
when are the 50% blade flurry dmg nerfs incoming?
the week after .5 live parses
glass mortar
yea the builder rule is build until you are at 6+ cp then spend
banger no?
very fun optimizations
dim parrot
Casual here to get us nerfed
glass mortar
why would u
gaunt phoenix
you already dont do that
glass mortar
u dont do that as fatebound
dense forge
Casual here to get us nerfed
im in mdi prison dont worry
keen belfry
mhm im explaining it bad
keen belfry
theres no NEW builder rules right
karmic gust
U only prioritize ps over ss if you’re at 6 stacks no ?
keen belfry
i just laugh cuz at 1 cp and less than 6 op u can literally press whatever order u want
same outocme
dim parrot
i have to delete that
Kek
gaunt phoenix
U only prioritize ps over ss if you’re at 6 stacks no ?
no, that's not it
the builder prio is just
bf at 3 targets
opp at 6 stacks
opp at 3 stacks and at 1-3 cps
ss
gaunt phoenix
yes
keen belfry
why not same am i missing
karmic gust
no, that's not it
the builder prio is just
bf at 3 targets
opp at 6 stacks
opp...
I do that yes bc opp brings you at 5 cp when you’re within that range
keen belfry
if ur at 1cp, 3 opp, you press ps into ss
but cant u also just do ss into ps?
its same
gaunt phoenix
no you will end up at 5cp with 6 opp
glass mortar
if u press SS at 5 u do not always overcap
if u press PS at 5 u guarentee overcap
not the same
karmic gust
^
glass mortar
ull be at 5 with 6 opp meaning ur guarenteeing an overcap
if u knew the outcome of pressing that SS
then sure its the same
u dont tho
well maybe u do because ur built diff
for us regular mortals
keen belfry
i do
dim parrot
Solo does the trickster build next week different than the current iteration besides the cloud talent
keen belfry
i told u guys
mighty pivot
nothing matters frfr
keen belfry
its the same thing
glass mortar
well thats not really what awang was asking anyway
keen belfry
cuz it either procs or it doesnt
glass mortar
but funny to know
keen belfry
u are sitll pressing the same buttons?
vivid vessel
ok
also for fb im pretty sure pressing ss or fth at x cp was the same, the only thing that mattered was pressing ss at 1 cp
keen belfry
am i crazy or am i thinking of this wrong
glass mortar
u are assuming the outcome tho
keen belfry
both can overcap the same about of times?
its based off ss proc
i stg its the same thing
glass mortar
no because of quantum physics by measuring the outcome you are changing it, so its different between the two cases
yes its functionally the same ig
karmic gust
Bro playing m+ on a super calculator
keen belfry
idk how to explain but same same
glass mortar
if ur next two buttons are SS and PS then regardless of if the SS procs or not, the order does not change that outcome
and u end up at 6 or overcapped CP
ig it doesnt really matter
gaunt phoenix
you are at 1cp with 3 opp
if you ss first, you might 3 > 7 (no cap) or 5 > 7 (overcap 2)
if you ps first, you might 5 > 7 (no cap) or 5 > 7 (overcap 2)
it is the same
keen belfry
i told u guys this!
i was legit hitting udmmies yesterday going
this builder im pressing
doesnt matter
whichever i wanna press i press
karmic gust
Press the one that glows brighter ig
gaunt phoenix
the only difference is with damage windows i guess
if the last global is an ss or ps
glass mortar
and also that PS can spend all ur blades at once while SS only spends one
what if u are 1 away from a coup
??
keen belfry
im still curious about coup
gaunt phoenix
i dont think it can do that
glass mortar
wait i thought PS spent one per shot
so if u have 2 blades it would spend 2
is it just 1 per cast?
gaunt phoenix
it's one
keen belfry
one cuh
glass mortar
oh ok
no rules no anything just press what u wanna and pray u get good rng because its trickster
gaunt phoenix
ye
keen belfry
mhm
gleaming reef
In a way it seems less complicated than fatebound
keen belfry
im also experimenting with naked rolls
gaunt phoenix
naked wang
glass mortar
it is less complicated
keen belfry
like u have so much time inbetween ur first 2 ARs cuz ks and shit, if u roll a 2 u can rtb on cd and have it for next ar basically
or u can just open with rtb and not care
gleaming reef
fatebound I still monitor for stacks after a finisher to do the 1 SS before I finish or PS first then finish
gusty cipher
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keen belfry
In a way it seems less complicated than fatebound
there are less rules its objectively less complicated
karmic gust
Better to rtb first to not waste loaded dice on first AR no ?
keen belfry
well if u only wanna kir a 3, u can waste that LD if its a 2
since u dont even want it
gleaming reef
Less complicated but potentially more cringe and troublesome to play around the smoke bomb, ya?
keen belfry
and sleight 3 odds are good
keen belfry
Less complicated but potentially more cringe and troublesome to play around the ...
yuh for sure more cringe
i bet the smoke bomb isnt hard rotation wise
patent mirage
i heard the word buffs
keen belfry
only dangerous
patent mirage
can it be
gleaming reef
I think it would suck if I have to manage the fazed targets and unseen blades
but its all automatic
Not like I can control it
karmic gust
Buffs at the cost of double the queue time
keen belfry
I think it would suck if I have to manage the fazed targets and unseen blades
uwill not be thinking about any of this
gleaming reef
Yeah
If it happens it happens
It's basically AR, stay in the smoke as long as u can if not go back in and dip before it expires
karmic gust
Maybe you can track it like assa poison, if no targets have it you can have an icon apply fazed like the things assa rogues have
gleaming reef
Maybe you can track it like assa poison, if no targets have it you can have an i...
That's exactly what I don't wanna do tho
karmic gust
The visual we got is a fart cloud bro
glass mortar
fart cloud yessssss my beloved
lucid sparrow
rank 1 blizzard glazer over here
glass mortar
i hope we get glyphs
cinder relic
Right on time for 4/20
glass mortar
i want green flavored cloud
red would also go hard
imagine how much it would scare ur party
gleaming reef
If it's a recycled smoke bomb visual....
I wouldn't say it's new
I haven't seen it tho
glass mortar
i mean it is literally smoke bomb visual but a bit bigger ig
smoke bomb was cool
hard to be super stoked for something they added in cata tho
even if we get to see it more again
shoulda never been made pvp only
gleaming reef
red would also go hard
Black death cloud would be cool too
Like a ninja
how about haste requirements?
fathom bramble
what if they let you choose the color ofthe smoke
gleaming reef
Trickster needs more haste right?
karmic gust
what if they let you choose the color ofthe smoke
Too much work for the intern
inland meteor
i hope we get glyphs
lol
glass mortar
ok but real talk
how did we let them get away
with kir not having any animation
ive thought about this more recently
inland meteor
prep also needs animation
karmic gust
The icon goes from colorful to grey when you press it
glass mortar
kir was kinda a big deal. it had its own build for 2 expacs, it was like a war between HO and kir, its a fancy massive cd (our longest natty) with a huge extension
karmic gust
Good enough for em I guess
glass mortar
prep has no animation and its ON THE GCD
keen belfry
with kir not having any animation
i really like the sound kir makes no cap
tame plinth
Hey guys, I read the Outlaw faq, they're showing some buffs to track but since it says "examples of buffs an CDs to track" I'm not sure if they're all accurate.
Could someone share the priority buffs they're tracking on their UI ?
keen belfry
Hey guys, I read the Outlaw faq, they're showing some buffs to track but since i...
rtb gravedigger and bf
all u need
inland meteor
Is rogue the only class with 2 animationless spells
glass mortar
Is rogue the only class with 2 animationless spells
nah cant be
formal thunder
How I feel after truly thinking the Ace changes surely aren't gonna be all there is for Outlaw with the patch
glass mortar
but idk what other stuff classes have
karmic gust
Imagine being a blizzard dev, you see the complaints of outlaws and you just go nah I’ll buff devourer
gleaming reef
rtb gravedigger and bf
I didn't track Gravedigger, isn't it like auto?
glass mortar
How I feel after truly thinking the Ace changes surely aren't gonna be all there...
??? brother read the chat for the last day we have fart cloud
huge gameplay coming
glass mortar
I didn't track Gravedigger, isn't it like auto?
you should track it
gleaming reef
How come?
glass mortar
the reset doesnt happen until the projectile lands so on bosses with big hitboxes it can be delayed as long as 0.4-0.6s
in which case you will likely queue up the wrong ability
not realizing ur about to get a reset
its not like ace where its insta
gleaming reef
I didn't think that it would matter because if I squeeze 1 SS in between it's not that bad right?
keen belfry
yuh i think gravedigger mandatory to track
glass mortar
yes it is
gravedigger fills ur cp bar
u wasted energy and pressed a SS for nothing if u have it readied
u dont build again with gravedigger
formal thunder
??? brother read the chat for the last day we have fart cloud
oh yeah, true. They fucked up the formatting again with the patchnotes 
karmic gust
in which case you will likely queue up the wrong ability
Already overcapped bc I pressed ps when it auto procs
Need to track it
glass mortar
ye u should track it
most bosses it isnt to bad but like
the big deathclaw guy
when ur dodging the beam
the proc is delayed almost to the end of the gcd
its very noticable
gleaming reef
I only notice its bad on voracius
tame plinth
rtb gravedigger and bf
Thanks !
gleaming reef
thanks, I'll go try track it
glass mortar
fun fact bte never had a projectile before it was given with the new tumbleweed
also means we can reset alot of bosses we couldnt before (as long as u have CP ready)
keen belfry
u werent
glass mortar
to 100% guarentee boss reset u need the projectile to be in the air as u dissapear
vivid vessel
was 100% when i was doing it in df
glass mortar
it depends on if they have a boss do ticking damage instantly
yes zac
what i mean is
vivid vessel
maybe you just are skill issued bud
glass mortar
if u can reset a boss with PS, u can alwyas do it
but most modern bosses u cant
cause they changed them to hit u insta on combat
thats why the only people who can are ones who can fire a projectile then vanish
vivid vessel
im pretty sure ps has a cast time
glass mortar
u cant do that with ps
wintry solar
Can I have an audio cue for max opp procs?
vivid vessel
projectile time i mean
glass mortar
i dont think it does
damage numbers appear on my screen same moment gcd starts swinging regardless of distance idk
vivid vessel
it does and you are skill issued
glass mortar
maybe it has a cast time but its not the same as a travel time
and it doesnt let u reset most bosses
vivid vessel
maybe skill issue thoughts?
glass mortar
id be careful calling skill issue lil gup
at least im not, in the eyes of foreverguy, a moron
💅
keen belfry
wrong chat fizz
karmic gust
More like the other dps trolled
keen belfry
is this even good dmg for caverns
is fine tho
you will come to learn that a lot of ur dmg this season is determined by route
keen belfry
i dropped a nuke last mc i was in but the route let me do it
obvi u still have to play well but route mattered a lot
vivid vessel
guys
thoughts on the fact adr is 15s duration
but cloud is 20
so you arent allowed to press adr again
till cloud is down
keen belfry
gives u nice buffer to press ur 2nd KS 😄
wintry solar
Oversight
jagged plover
zac is so good at finding problems
lethal oak
Playing Trickster in 2026 
jagged plover
my goat
glass mortar
Ok but zac what if u waited for a boss ground aoe phase then ar prep ard
Two farts covering the whole hitbox for ur raid
Banger or?
vivid vessel
zac is so good at finding problems
ty i know
wintry solar
Banger yeah