outlaw

[frail veldt]

Haste tax was the first sign that the devs had no idea what was going on with the spec

[glass mortar]

its just a ace but without the proc part

you always know when its gunna happen

even more boring

[vivid vessel]

i hate gravedigger

[glass mortar]

cant store it up like a resource

[cinder relic]

Its a gaurenteed ace proc its fun :D

[glass mortar]

and the name doesnt even make sense?

[vivid vessel]

i just wish we had kept our good ace

[glass mortar]

r rogues gravediggers?

[jagged plover]

it's so sick that they reworked ww to work well with haste in a healthy way and then gave us this piece of dogshit

[wintry gate]

it makes sense, you're digging your own grave

[glass mortar]

we surely arent the only spec whose theme is making corpses

[craggy barn]

zac

[glass mortar]

infact we arent even close to the most corpsy spec

[wintry gate]

cus once you're done, you're done done

[craggy barn]

do u know if u can anchor shit to the personal resource bar again

[vivid vessel]

zomb

[glass mortar]

why on earth is it called gravedigger

and ur getting a gun reset

entire thing is nonsense

[craggy barn]

all these cross hair adons dont do that

[wintry gate]

LOL

[vivid vessel]

ye but its not on your char no

[craggy barn]

its annoying

[vivid vessel]

ye zomb

you cant do it anymore

cause

[craggy barn]

rip

[past sky]

its based on that old saying, "if you want to play outlaw, first dig two graves"

[glass mortar]

at the very least it shoulda given you a bte u can cast outside the normal cooldown of bte

[vivid vessel]

its not anchored to the char anymore

[craggy barn]

ah

[vivid vessel]

its just a frame now

[glass mortar]

or if bte has multiple charges it might be interesting

[craggy barn]

massive L

[glass mortar]

instead its just boring

[radiant wyvern]

because tumbleweed (?)

[glass mortar]

me when i make the rng classes apex completely determanistic

[craggy barn]

all the xhair addons suck without that

[cinder relic]

This mfer just complainin

[glass mortar]

no

i have always hated gravedigger

its literally just ace but more boring in every way

imagine taking an already existing talent and packaging it as our apex

idk how u get excited for that

u do u tho

[craggy barn]

its a step towards tornado trigger

[vivid vessel]

you have almost twice the number of keys on sub than outlaw

yet they reworked the spec specially for you

makes you think !

[glass mortar]

not only that but the way they implemented it actively punishes you for not tracking it and trying to treat it like a proc

because u have projectile travel time before it even triggers?

ace doesnt do that

💩

my bad for trying to play like a proc spec ig

[vivid vessel]

gravedigger is ace for noobs

[jagged plover]

truth nuke

[wintry solar]

But you play Gravedigger

[cinder relic]

cuz I dont have weapons

Probs gonna play outlaw on farm this tier

[keen belfry]

no one believed this dooming chat when we said they reworked this spec for no one

[vivid vessel]

yeyeye

always an excuse

i see right trough oyu guy

[jagged plover]

they reworked it for the stealth doomers who post on the forums

and dont play the game

[cinder relic]

If a single mythic agi weapon dropped id be playing outlaw lol

[vivid vessel]

sure thing bud !

[random stirrup]

if only you'd crafted one...

[midnight granite]

When buffs

What the fuck

[jagged plover]

it's sub turn to be the good rogue spec bro

just wait your turn

[vivid vessel]

outlaw has been worse and not been buffed

[wintry gate]

sub was good in DF

[jagged plover]

[vivid vessel]

if you think its getting buffed

[frail veldt]

You can play it with a hero weapon

[vivid vessel]

you are delusional

[wintry solar]

I said I hated uhuh and they took stealth interactions away entirely so this may be my bad.

[radiant wyvern]

good?

[wintry solar]

Sorry yall

[wintry gate]

sub was good last xpac too

[wintry solar]

Didn't mean to monkey paw

[frail veldt]

If you loved outlaw you'd find a way to be playing it

[vivid vessel]

he need mythic main hand to play it in 10s bro you dont understand

[wintry gate]

in fact sub has been good for a while

[midnight granite]

Bru rogue is at the bottom of the charts, all 3 specs

[keen belfry]

FUCK YOU

[jagged plover]

the joke is that sub is always the good spec my guy

and we never are

[radiant wyvern]

popo =

[frail veldt]

@cinder relic would you consider yourself more of a rogue main or an outlaw main

[wintry solar]

FUCK ME?? NO FUCK YOU!!

[vivid vessel]

one is bottomer tho !

[vivid vessel]

i mean he is a rogue main

[cinder relic]

I main rogue but I prefer outlaw

[vivid vessel]

thats not even a question

[midnight granite]

???

[vivid vessel]

also dont think there is anything wrong with taht

[cinder relic]

I'm not a spec main at the wr I play at LOL

[vivid vessel]

idk

i still consider myself an outlaw main

[cinder relic]

I almost played warrior this tier for Paladins/alleria

[vivid vessel]

and i got the same wr as you last tier no

[midnight granite]

Wr 10 or less or trolling

[keen belfry]

do you guys think outlaw is the only spec were their class writer hasnt played it since 2023?

[vivid vessel]

jsut cant be an outlaw main in prog thats all

[keen belfry]

not even flaming guy

[midnight granite]

2016

[cinder relic]

Id prefer not to play keys as a spec I'm going to deal less dmg on

[wintry gate]

im considering gearing my ret pal for real prog at this point once atrophic is meaningless tbh

[cinder relic]

I played outlaw the entierty of pre season lol

[vivid vessel]

well you are never going to play outlaw in keys then ?

[frail veldt]

Outlaw does plenty of damage in keys

[vivid vessel]

lies !

show proof or fake

[cinder relic]

I guess it sjust be annoying hour

[keen belfry]

yes but does this count

[vivid vessel]

[tired wolf]

chimaerus feels so cursed for cd usage

[vivid vessel]

ragebait hour

owned

[jagged plover]

every hour is

[midnight granite]

Ragebait channel

[frail veldt]

Every hour of every day

[midnight granite]

[frail veldt]

We boolie

[vivid vessel]

bro got 5 man ed

ez

[glass mortar]

zac....

[vivid vessel]

ranwe

[glass mortar]

im gotta mug some shovels zac....

[jagged plover]

ragebaiting to hide the pain

[frail veldt]

We kinda did team up on him

[jagged plover]

i see you guys

[frail veldt]

Ganked in his own disc

[glass mortar]

we r digging graves apparently now....

[wintry gate]

LOL

[glass mortar]

new job for the outlaw rogue...

[vivid vessel]

i see

[glass mortar]

very thematic.

[keen belfry]

i think that was good rage baiting hto

[midnight granite]

Don't worry buffs soon

[vivid vessel]

i need to farm gear on zacrebleu guys

[keen belfry]

like no cap

[midnight granite]

For sub

[vivid vessel]

cause this week we will split voidspire instead of reclearing

so zacrebleu needs gear !

how do i do that

[midnight granite]

For what

[jagged plover]

zacrebleu

holy

[midnight granite]

Why mirror split this late

[jagged plover]

goated name

[vivid vessel]

our main tank isnt here this week

[cinder relic]

I play in a US top 10 guild

[glass mortar]

i bet at some point this expac

[midnight granite]

I come tank for you

[vivid vessel]

so we feel like reclearing vanguard and crown

[cinder relic]

Why the fuck would I be playing outlaw to kill lura right now

[vivid vessel]

is not really possible

[cinder relic]

When sub or sin are better

[frail veldt]

You're lost without your main tank

[glass mortar]

we get a boss with a hitbox so big, that gravedigger reset happens after the gcd

thoughts? @vivid vessel

[frail veldt]

For the love of the game

[vivid vessel]

wtf is us top 10

[keen belfry]

my guild is US500 nbd

[midnight granite]

For aura

[vivid vessel]

sounds like world 100 to me

[frail veldt]

Damn wang

[midnight granite]

Us top 10 guild is like 500 wr

[vivid vessel]

usa people still talking in us rank

[jagged plover]

bait too. obvious guys

[vivid vessel]

like it was the only region

[cinder relic]

We were world 19 in MFO

[vivid vessel]

you are washed up region lil bro

thats what i said

[frail veldt]

Well tbh it's kinda impressive cuz you have to play with 19 NA people

So it's harder

If you think about it

[midnight granite]

[vivid vessel]

true

[keen belfry]

zac lets make a guild

me u guy officers

[vivid vessel]

guys be there at hamburger hour !

[vivid vessel]

no

[keen belfry]

mewo 2nd officer

[midnight granite]

Me too right

[frail veldt]

Only invite physical comp buff

[keen belfry]

u can trial blue

[vivid vessel]

oh

i can buy boes

on alt

[frail veldt]

All casters banned

[jagged plover]

multiple rogues in one raid

[vivid vessel]

thats the tech

[jagged plover]

doomed to fail

[vivid vessel]

i dotn have to farm gear

if i buy boes

holy

crazy

[wintry solar]

Can I be the designated perma benched guildy?

I'll keep it nice and warm

[keen belfry]

yes

[wintry solar]

Sweet

[summer nimbus]

does a shroud addon that announces time remaining still exist

[vivid vessel]

@keen belfry queue up in my 10 pit now

trade me ring

[vivid vessel]

not possible

[summer nimbus]

shii

why would they do this

[keen belfry]

why

[vivid vessel]

why not

[keen belfry]

i cant

im too hungry

[summer nimbus]

arnt u guys different regions

[vivid vessel]

no one queuing up bro

why are people always saying

to list your key

then i list my key

and there is no one

[keen belfry]

i list my key

[summer nimbus]

every key is just tank waiting simulator these days

[keen belfry]

im the lfg king

[vivid vessel]

only tank is trying to queue up wiht a guy in tww gear

[radiant wyvern]

i play with the crew or i dont play at all

[vivid vessel]

seems like a scam to me

look at this guy

no effort made

[radiant wyvern]

hes aug bro the 50 int buff will surely carry its weight at 200 ilvl

[summer nimbus]

why do u even have a 10 key

[vivid vessel]

its zacrebleu bro

[radiant wyvern]

272 coaches whistle

[vivid vessel]

you dont know zacrebleu?

he a banger

[sullen wyvern]

is it me

or outlaw feels kinda cluncky

[summer nimbus]

i am not familiar with this individual

[sullen wyvern]

even with 24%^ haste

[vivid vessel]

im giga actually

[past sky]

i liked how outlaw felt in tww and i still like it now

its got a very BFA feel

would be more fun if it also had BFA tuning

[wintry gate]

i'm an idiot, i had the single target build on

[past sky]

i usually do keys with my friends, who are all meta swappers

[wintry gate]

-3 targets, no fucking wonder

[past sky]

so im destined to never top anything

but its fine

playing well is its own reward!

[cinder relic]

True actually

I do really enjoy how all the rogue specs play rn

Just a shame the tuning overall is so meh

[wintry gate]

ugh i mean yeah i do liek how they play, sub is too simplistic for my taste but it's what i'm primarily playing rn

sin, tempest feels awful to hit cus of the energy cost

and i might try OL on dragons tonight

[cinder relic]

Ill let u in on a secret, its always been this simple

[wintry gate]

outlaw still feels most fun out of the three for me, but i gotta figure out my issues with it first

[cinder relic]

genuinely

[summer nimbus]

i still have grievances with the energy situation for law

[wintry gate]

i didn't feel the energy issue

[gray summit]

I love it !

[wintry gate]

but i also have too much haste atm

[gray summit]

Zac are u french ?

[desert tendon]

everyone in this channel is french

[wintry solar]

What was the name of the necrolord bubble in SL

Flesh shield?

[desert tendon]

fleshcraft iirc

[wintry solar]

Thank you Censi, you're a good due.

Dude

[desert tendon]

you re welcome poopoo, that s because you liked my pfp

[wintry solar]

[sullen wyvern]

This is probably the wackest tier set bonus we ever got

prob next to DF s2 one

[vivid vessel]

yes !

[tulip gate]

!tuu

[heady whale]

hows outlaw looking?

[wintry solar]

Df s2 bonus was dope though

[sullen wyvern]

the BTE one?

[wintry solar]

Or was it season 3

[sullen wyvern]

I didnt like it at all

[wintry solar]

Okay nvm

[sullen wyvern]

prob thinking s3

[wintry solar]

I am

[sullen wyvern]

s3 was sick

[heady whale]

trying to decide what rogue spec i should invest time into. love outlaws aesthetic but idk if the damage will be there

[sullen wyvern]

you got people to play with?

[heady whale]

to a degree

[sullen wyvern]

if not, dont play outlaw

you wont do shit

no one will invite you

[heady whale]

are we that bad rn?

[desert tendon]

yea that s not dooming, from what i saw outlaw isnt that bad

but again, not the best dps spec in the game, no utility, noone wants that

[heady whale]

so were just bad.

[wintry solar]

You're as bad as the community thinks tbh

[desert tendon]

More or less as bad as the 3 last expansions

[heady whale]

but, the pirate aesthetic.

[desert tendon]

middle of the pack at most

[wintry solar]

Gone

[desert tendon]

Pirate aesthetic is kinda gone imho

good melee brawler aesthetic tho

[wintry solar]

Get the tiraguard dungeon sets from BFA dungeons and mog dreadblades

Ezpz

[heady whale]

thats so sad. the mix of guns and swords and dice rolling made it seem like a really cool pirate spec.

[tulip gate]

Lets go gambling

[cinder relic]

Fun (depending who u ask)

Tuning is like, very average, but rogue is unplayable on last 2 of voidspire

Other than thats its very "okay"

[wintry solar]

I like it a lot just wish KS was better

[desert tendon]

just wish ks was removed, better

[wintry solar]

I may agree

I do believe I'd choose KS deletion over keeping it if I had to choose.

Apparently asking to have it hit main target is too much to ask for

[strong halo]

anyone us unhalted unitframes?

The boss frames dont work for me and when i go to settings UI errors pop up like crazy

[tulip gate]

Looking at rotations and sims is shiv not used? and if its not used why not just take another talent like shadowrunner?

[gray summit]

Guys

In a scale from 1 to 10

[vivid vessel]

shiv is a soothe

take wahtever you want tho

most utility talents we dont really use

[gray summit]

What is the probability we are going to BTE 5cp+ with a change

Of blizzard

The gameplay would be so smoooootj

But i would put a 4 over 10

[stuck tiger]

just like

it was like that before

so why are we punished

life is so hard

[cinder relic]

in the .5? 0%

In the .7 or 12.1? Uhhh Ill go with 25%

[heady whale]

whats our main loop as outlaw?

[gaunt phoenix]

main loop?

[heady whale]

like whats the goal with outlaw.

keep your dice rolling and spend combo points?

[hollow bloom]

Keep the flow, roll the dice, pray, be overall mediocre

[gaunt phoenix]

you are trying to keep stage 2+ roll the bones active as much as possible

by playing well you have low enough cooldown on AR and KIR that all or most of your rolls have loaded dice active

so you hardly have to natty roll and risk a stage 1

other than that you are just building and spending

[heady whale]

so its builder spender with pistol shot/sin strike as builders and dispatch and bte as spenders.

[blissful owl]

Just started playing outlaw this week, enjoying bricking my friends keys rn. I have a question, rn to avoid overcapping opportunity I hit pistol shot on 1 CP and send dispatch at 5. I find that I get into this loop multiple times, when I watch other outlaw rogues or in logs, I don’t often see them in this loop either sending dispatch at 6/7. Am I doing something wrong or just placebo

[bronze wadi]

is it just the server im on or does outlaw feel like it perpetually has latency

im only at 30 local and 40 world though

[gaunt phoenix]

yes, but blade flurry is also a builder in aoe

and you have short cds like blade rush to hit on cd

Outlaw is not a burst cooldown spec you are basically always hitting adrenaline rush when available

[heady whale]

its a consistent spec from what im seeing.

[gaunt phoenix]

but yes outlaw is just building and spending and trying to be most efficient with every global

[heady whale]

seems like most of the time its alternating between opporturnity ps and dispatch affected by blade flurry.

and reacting to procs from your dice if you get a high roll you bank it for a big timer.

[final pagoda]

why top 1% Rio is mostly subs while top 0.1% rio is outlaw?

I can't think of a good answer why top 0.1% rn would be outlaw

[dim parrot]

Outliers aren’t indicative of much

[gaunt phoenix]

so, blade flurry is just something you maintain

everything bte, ps, etc. is cleaved by blade flurry

[final pagoda]

Wdym...

[dim parrot]

Lol uh

Like if there’s 5 outlaws in the 0.1% it doesn’t mean outlaw is meta it just means they’re the exceptions

[final pagoda]

I never said outlaw is meta

[dim parrot]

Sigh

[gaunt phoenix]

because outlaw has a few very dedicated players

or rather it is just zac only

[final pagoda]

I asked why there are more outlaw in top 0.1% than sub or assa, while if you look at top1% they are much less popular

I was thinking about Zac's theory too, but the data I saw mentioned 10 law top 0.1%

[dim parrot]

Idk what the question is

There’s 10 outlaws in the top 0.1% then

There’s more sub in top 1% cuz it’s more played just not at a 0.1% level? Answers itself

[final pagoda]

Yes exactly, the question is what can be the possible reasons

The most obvious is that very good players skew towards playing outlaw

[dim parrot]

This

Outliers of any form in statistics aren’t reliable metrics

[final pagoda]

Man I'm sorry but your last sentence doesn't make any sense in this context

[dim parrot]

Kek

GL

[outer meteor]

pov ur specd outlaw

[fathom bramble]

unlucky

[outer meteor]

never getting resil 18 at this rate

[vivid vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1493009002479751168/image_1.gif

[gaunt phoenix]

there's nothing special about 19 keys where outlaw comes online

just a few people are really pushing with it

[vivid vessel]

gets worse with kye level actually

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[final pagoda]

I wonder if there is a correlation between outlaw players and experienced m+ pushers (given that historically outlaw was mostly the main spec in m+, aside tww s1 probably?)

[final pagoda]

Exactly that's why I'm surprised

[vivid vessel]

whats your data from

[final pagoda]

Wowhead article about new m+ rewards

Let me find it w8

[vivid vessel]

eh i mena

the number is so small lol

its just anecdotal

also assa = sub

in term of

assa players will just reroll to sub

and vice versa

outlaw players will just play ouitaw

[final pagoda]

Mmm

Also outlaw dps varies the most with skill out of all the spec I believe

Im thinking mid outlaw player > shitty DPS > no way you get top 1% > reroll?

While you can get your way through as sin or sub

[gaunt phoenix]

it's halfway placebo, you very much do land at 5cps pretty often

but there is an optimization, if you are at 1cp with 3 stacks of opportunity, you should SS not PS

so, SS will either land you at 6cps or land you at 3cps > then you PS to 7

but you only do this at specifially 1cp and 3 opp

at 6 opp you would ps

at 2cp you would ps

[final pagoda]

Did anyone found a way to get some visual/triggers when you have 6opp? (M33kaura for example)

[vivid vessel]

no you cant do that

[wintry solar]

Why not?

[vivid vessel]

hm?

[vivid vessel]

@mighty pivot you there cuh

[next wedge]

we enjoying the class guys?

[cinder relic]

Rogue is fun imo

Just like, so average

[next wedge]

outlaw still more fun than other classes

less fun than old outlaw 🙁

[wide coral]

100% I love the shadowlands-like rotation

just the energy starving that is sad

you get into a boss after a big pack without adr and any tea charges = GG

[serene urchin]

this is old outlaw

[wintry solar]

Tww outlaw is the new old outlaw

Before was old old outlaw

Blizz give me buttons please

[eternal hound]

what buttons have we lost besides covie abilities?

[vivid vessel]

gs

vanish

[eternal hound]

No I mean like

buttons

[vivid vessel]

mfd

[eternal hound]

actually removed, not from rota

[vivid vessel]

db

[eternal hound]

Dreadblades 😭

[vivid vessel]

tea

ambush

[keen belfry]

my guild let me drop a nuke on saladbar

[vivid vessel]

bet i still gap you noob

[keen belfry]

u did more boss dam

but thats not ethical

[vivid vessel]

i only play for boss damage

wdym thats not ethical

[keen belfry]

i had to do what i had to do

to get the job done

while raid leading remember that

ok?

[eternal hound]

...ur raid leading

on rogue

[vivid vessel]

on outlaw !

[keen belfry]

u dont understand the gamerness u have to reach

to raid lead as outlaw

for a WR 1500 guiild

[vivid vessel]

i dont pad lil bro

show boss damage

turbo gapped

i reclear this week lil wang

be ready

mythic gaze !

[keen belfry]

ur like 285

irl

[vivid vessel]

this log is 275 wdym

ye

[keen belfry]

bumelvis

bumpelvis

[vivid vessel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4Hd7uHSh9BgV4mf3pWXdJ6 koji just implemented the new trickster thing

i expected it to actually be ahead

ijn aoe

but its barely

[keen belfry]

oh so we staying/

0.7 is not worth it

[vivid vessel]

idk maybe im missing something

@gaunt phoenix

halp

trickster seems turbo dog for me but

idk

maybe im missing something

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rmSSEoUfo7FQdYQA8RtwCM slice

maybe i need a lot of haste

i sim haste flask !

[vivid vessel]

no this one is wreong one

one sec

[keen belfry]

tell me what to think

[vivid vessel]

i snet the live one

instead of ptr

[vivid vessel]

well if its less than 1 % ahead in aoe

i dont see a reason to play it

considering its less fun

less st

and killing spree

asshole

[keen belfry]

i agree

but is ur sim even right

[vivid vessel]

idk

is it wrong

im simming again with haste flask

to see if i need more haste

prollyl

eh

something is wrong

[keen belfry]

cuz idk what my number is

but im worried its gonna be like 2% better atleast

[vivid vessel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rjrmEdDWeNTpZpFme6B6YW why is it 12% better in st ?

what ?

@gaunt phoenix halp

this is for sure a real sim

not fake yes yes

ooh

i need to get 2 ace

[keen belfry]

u sound so fried rn

[vivid vessel]

for fatebound

ok i get it now

nah

[keen belfry]

yes

[vivid vessel]

i forgot

about the 2 ace thing bro

ok lets see !

hm !

something is wrong !

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6WEuRqQE9xjeG2NXdUwjTF its still 10% ahead in st xd

[keen belfry]

what if cloud is that good zac

thoughts?

[vivid vessel]

ye bro

for sure for sure

[keen belfry]

its in the clouds

if u think abnou tit

[vivid vessel]

and why is it bad in aoe for whatever reason

like this is aoe

but in st its 10% ahead ?

ye for sure real sim bro

[wintry solar]

So it can get hit by planes?

No way dude

[keen belfry]

paper palknes

[gaunt phoenix]

yea, something's borked. i cant look rn

[vivid vessel]

without talent

with talent

yes yes

i trust robot

hm well i guess

in theory

press adr > 20s of cloud buff

and adr is 36s intervall

so you do have super high uptime on cloud cover

[keen belfry]

mhm

[vivid vessel]

but idk this seems cooked to me

[keen belfry]

cloud cover might be really good

[vivid vessel]

also the fact it does nothing in aoe

because the debuff doesnt cleave

how cooked is that

[keen belfry]

thats dumb

15% dr tho

[vivid vessel]

i mean there is no way this is real tho

[lucid sparrow]

please god

fatebound has been so nice

[vivid vessel]

let me hop on ptr

[lucid sparrow]

no killing spree

[craggy barn]

bruh we didnt kill this bich on this pull

sadge

[vivid vessel]

noob

[craggy barn]

yea

i fucked up

[frail veldt]

It doesn't??

[craggy barn]

104k dps before wipe

[frail veldt]

Even with KS?

[craggy barn]

sadge

[vivid vessel]

yes but

[frail veldt]

I thought people said it did

[vivid vessel]

this cloud cover thing doesnt apply in aoe

[frail veldt]

So do you tab target

[vivid vessel]

ye i guess

[frail veldt]

During the cloud

That's aids

[vivid vessel]

ye

it prolly would be worth

cause it caps at 3

[gaunt phoenix]

flurry doesnt apply fazed?

[vivid vessel]

and you are at 3 very quickly

[frail veldt]

I thought someone said it made abilities through bf apply fazed

[vivid vessel]

no its like

ss etc

no

[frail veldt]

That's so so cursed

Can you aoe spread during cloud cover with KS since it aoe applies fazed?

[vivid vessel]

no you are right

bf apply it @gaunt phoenix

also

it applies 2 stacks

[frail veldt]

Oh

[vivid vessel]

cause deft

is 2 spells i think

[frail veldt]

LOL

I see

So it's specifically bf and KS

[vivid vessel]

bro nvm

wtf

it refreshes

perma

with autos

that cleaves

with bf

[frail veldt]

Sick

Op af

[vivid vessel]

?

[frail veldt]

16% damage buff

[vivid vessel]

this is the best talent in the game bro

[frail veldt]

Yeup

Insanely op

16% damage like 60% uptime

[vivid vessel]

did they even try the talent

before shipping it

or what

[frail veldt]

Bro what do you think

[vivid vessel]

i cant belive you would be so stupid

[frail veldt]

They probably reused code

[lucid sparrow]

welp

guess we are trickster now arent we

[vivid vessel]

its 24% bro

[frail veldt]

Well 16% over KS aoe

[gaunt phoenix]

the 3 stacks dont instantly expire when cloud cover is over right

you have to refresh fazed for it to go from 3 to 1 yeah

[vivid vessel]

what

[frail veldt]

Cuz you have decent aoe uptime of fazed

KS applies aoe fazed via bf

So that's 8% on everything

This talent makes it stack to 3 so 8->24

[vivid vessel]

ignore all the bullshit in middle of screen

[gaunt phoenix]

ty

[frail veldt]

HAHA

It's perma????

Even after cloud fades?????

[vivid vessel]

its not perma

its 10s after cloud fades

:om

no but this is stupid no

[gaunt phoenix]

its perma until fazed refreshes naturally

[frail veldt]

Wait

Zac

Try KS

To see if it refreshes it

And keeps the 3 stacks

After the cloud buff is gone

[vivid vessel]

why

[gaunt phoenix]

wemo..

[vivid vessel]

i dont understand

[frail veldt]

I'm wondering if any refresh source keeps the stacks

[vivid vessel]

the way i understand it rn

[frail veldt]

Like proc a ub on it

[vivid vessel]

after the 10s thing is over

[frail veldt]

Does it keep 3 stacks forever

[vivid vessel]

you cant refresh it over 1 stack anymore

[frail veldt]

In st?

[vivid vessel]

right

[frail veldt]

Your main target

Seems to keep 3 stacks

At 10s

It's perma 24%?

[vivid vessel]

actually drops instantly

its like solo said

you proc a ub

and it disapear

[frail veldt]

Weird wonder why I see different duration in your clip

But both say 3 stacks

[gaunt phoenix]

the cloud lasts 10s and then the effect lingers for 10s more after it fades

and THEN fazed stays at 3 until fazed refreshes naturally

[vivid vessel]

soi the stacks in aoe would actualyl stay longer

cause you wouldnt proc ub

[keen belfry]

i told u cuh now that it officially works in aoe

[frail veldt]

Ah I see

[keen belfry]

this talent is fucking bonkers

[vivid vessel]

this is the most stupid talent i have ever seen

i actually believe the sim now

10% more st

ye sure thing bro

send it

its real

[frail veldt]

Hey what if we're op now

[gaunt phoenix]

sim is just not applying on bf

[vivid vessel]

ye its undersimming

my bad bro

[lucid sparrow]

ah

[vivid vessel]

1 talent

10% value

[lucid sparrow]

its undersimming

[vivid vessel]

all good

[lucid sparrow]

gg

[keen belfry]

so what did we just gain like a 15% aoe buff or

[hollow bloom]

Aw shit new tech?

[vivid vessel]

there is actually no dev bro

they just

ship a 10% talent

no testing

nothing

whatever

send it in prod guys

whatever happens happens

[lucid sparrow]

they wont let it slide for long

[vivid vessel]

ye like 10% st buff 10% aoe buff easy enough just like that 1 talent idk

[smoky lotus]

theyll fix it faster than we get any buffs

[frail veldt]

Zac

Remember last time we were strong

[vivid vessel]

this is so cringe

[frail veldt]

In keys

Do you remember

[vivid vessel]

most cringe shit i have ever seen

[frail veldt]

How that happened

[vivid vessel]

ye bugs

i know

[frail veldt]

Was it intentional?

[vivid vessel]

its always bugs

[frail veldt]

Exactly

[vivid vessel]

never intentional

[frail veldt]

So shut the fuck up and eat the cake

[vivid vessel]

I DONT

WANT

TO PLAY

TRICKSTER

[frail veldt]

Hahahahaahah

[vivid vessel]

AND I DONT WANT

[hollow bloom]

Pass the cake bro

[vivid vessel]

TO STAY

IN A FUCKING

CLOUD

BRO

??

TF

AM I DOING

IN A CLOUD

also

[frail veldt]

Lolololololol

[vivid vessel]

the cloud is so small

you legit have to hold adr

till tank stop moving

its so cringe

super cringe

i hate this shit

[frail veldt]

Yeah it's awful

But remember

[vivid vessel]

this is the most cringe shit i have ever seen

i cannot believe

[frail veldt]

Last time we were good

And we had to play old KS

[vivid vessel]

we ahve a dev

whose work

is to make outlaw

[frail veldt]

This is how they do t

[vivid vessel]

worse

every tier

and he even manage to do that

with .5

[frail veldt]

They can't make us strong without making us shit to play

[vivid vessel]

patches

talent

[frail veldt]

It's the rule of law

[vivid vessel]

actual talent

[frail veldt]

The dev is watching you crash out rn

Laughing their ass off

[vivid vessel]

no dev

bro ship one thing after 5 min of work

no iteration

nothing

fucking send it bro

[hollow bloom]

[vivid vessel]

embarassing

company

wtf do i even do

with my buttons

when do i press ks

trickster is so shit bro

so shit

[lucid sparrow]

r u crashing out about trickster

or the talent

or both

[smoky lotus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Upf_B9RLQ this is our dev

[vivid vessel]

both

trickster is shit to play

this talent is shit to play

dev didnt spend more than 5 min

[keen belfry]

well ur gonna play it lil bro

[vivid vessel]

doing this .5 update

how does outlaw manage to get worse

every patch

its every patch bro

[hollow bloom]

Its been like that for like years now

[vivid vessel]

they just released an update

that makes

trickster

10% better

for free

who even is working

on outlaw

rn

who

is the dev

[lucid sparrow]

inside agent

[lime lake]

me smile

[vivid vessel]

fucking embarassing man

not a single human being

[lucid sparrow]

bro

just wait til they realize

[hollow bloom]

Probably the same dev that suggested faint be a dmg amp

[lucid sparrow]

they will remove half the spec tree to compensate

we will get

10% aura nerf

cuz of cloud cover

[vivid vessel]

they arent hman

[hollow bloom]

AI dev confirmed

[proven ocean]

Me

[lucid sparrow]

we are in a

dangerous timeline

[keen belfry]

IM GOING TO drop a nuke on tuesday

[lucid sparrow]

so does that mean

[keen belfry]

fart cloud nuke

[lucid sparrow]

its also insane for sub rogue

?

[hearty edge]

allegedly yes

[frail veldt]

Good thing my tank is in voice with me

So I can scream at him to stop moving

Gona be sick

[lucid sparrow]

this talent is quite disgusting

drawback is tank needs to not move

perfectly balanced?

[frail veldt]

Means miserable but people are gonna tell us we're dumb for complaining

[vivid vessel]

outlaw chat complaining about getting a buff

classic

[lucid sparrow]

haha

just

run after tank

'can i pop now'

'are u gna stop moving'

[frail veldt]

It's like you took a guy quote from the future

[hollow bloom]

It is kinda shit isnt it…what do i do if fire is on the cloud? Stay in the fire i guess.

[gaunt phoenix]

outlaw suddenly gains 10% dmg and 15% dr

[vivid vessel]

@keen belfry

[frail veldt]

The Dr is low-key insane

[vivid vessel]

HAHA

[gaunt phoenix]

lmao

[vivid vessel]

WHAT A BANGER TALENT BRO

BANGER TALENT

[lucid sparrow]

LMAO

[frail veldt]

Hahahahahaha

[vivid vessel]

i hope its group wide

and that ion runs with an outlaw rogue

in his group

4 outalw rogue actually

[frail veldt]

It's nerfed for allies

The visual

They already took care of that

[vivid vessel]

cool so only me dies to it

[frail veldt]

Yep

[vivid vessel]

so i have to play trickster now

[frail veldt]

Get fucked

[vivid vessel]

less fun talent

bullshit killing spree

i cant see my feets

good update

can we delay .5

why does outlaw get worse every update

please someone answer me

:D

i need help understanding

[frail veldt]

What's our builder rules as trickster

Is it just ps>ss

[vivid vessel]

BUILD TO 6

BUILD TO 6

[frail veldt]

Sick

[vivid vessel]

BUILD TO 6

[frail veldt]

Gaming

[vivid vessel]

BUILD TO 6

[lucid sparrow]

BUILD TO 6

[vivid vessel]

BUILD TO 6

[lucid sparrow]

SHOOT

[vivid vessel]

BUILD TO 6

[lucid sparrow]

BUILD TO 6

[hollow bloom]

BUILD TO 6

[vivid vessel]

PS PROC?

PRESS IT

BUILD TO 6

[lucid sparrow]

BUILD TO 6

[vivid vessel]

BUILD TO 6

PRESS PS

PRESS SS

NO THOUGHTS

JUST BUILD

LOBOTOMIZED OUTLAW

• 10% DPS

GG

[frail veldt]

Stoked for Tuesday?

Excited outlaws getting a buff

[vivid vessel]

no blizzard is a dogshit company

[frail veldt]

We're so back

[vivid vessel]

these devs arent human

[frail veldt]

Outlaw op now

Outlaw tier

Sword first craft

[hollow bloom]

We need more haste for Trickster?

[vivid vessel]

7% of my damage is rng targetting good !

i like it

[lucid sparrow]

what makes ks a must for trick

[vivid vessel]

cause all the talnts are ks things

[lucid sparrow]

you will see smoke cloud

everytime

you press adr

your room

will fill

with smoke

tears running down ur face

''just one more faze''

gg

[vivid vessel]

please bring back realz bro

im so sorry

im so sorry

i didnt mean it

i want a human

[gaunt phoenix]

you know what happened

[vivid vessel]

it was an accident

i didnt mean it

[eternal hound]

Bro

Imagine thinking

[lucid sparrow]

what did you do zac

[eternal hound]

that the M+ timer dosen't matter in difficulty

Because +30s one shot

LMAFO

[vivid vessel]

what

[eternal hound]

Yeah legit

Comments are fucking wild

[vivid vessel]

its too hard to love this game

its to ohard on my mental

every patch the spec gets worse

and i have to be happy about it

its too hard

idk how people do it

im not strong enough

[lime lake]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ultrasad

[frail veldt]

They just main specs that blizz actually cares about

[vivid vessel]

i get nightmares bro

every night

i wake up

sweating

TRICKSTER

NOO

LEAVE ME ALONE NOT TRICSTER

[keen belfry]

I love this discord

[unkempt dew]

But atleast we are having fun right?

Right?

[vivid vessel]

NO

[unkempt dew]

Damn

[eternal hound]

Fun?

In my world of warcraft?

Man if I wanted to have fun I'd play like GW2 or smth

[keen belfry]

Trickster funny cuz if u have opp proc ur next builder don’t matter

U can go ps or ss it dont matter

[hollow bloom]

Brain off

[vivid vessel]

trickster is funny because nothing matters

overcap all cps

press any builder

at any time

good spec !

real outlaw btw

only fatebound saves it

thats why outlaw needs to be -1 max cp

[keen belfry]

SS procced to 5 and now u have 6 opp? Press ps at 5 cp!

[unkempt dew]

Maaan this looks wrong

[vivid vessel]

or its doomed forever

[keen belfry]

This trickster will be braindead

[vivid vessel]

you are going to double ks

bro

DOUBLE KS

GET ME OUT

and next tier sub is gonna be thanos in raid cause of trikcster

cause they will take 2 exapc to fix it

and its another sub tier

wtf the future is so grim

[gaunt phoenix]

our RNG curve is like 20% wider as trickster btw

[vivid vessel]

good !

[keen belfry]

Y

[vivid vessel]

W

[long barn]

What keys are worth running wound

[vivid vessel]

stinky ass hero talent bro

[wintry solar]

That's actually a Popo quote but close enough