outlaw

[next wedge]

you can use the blizzard cooldown manager to help you track your RtB, Bladeflurry, and Adrenaline rush durations so you know when to recast

[zinc briar]

Had to do world RACE without outlaw

Method will do It with 4 outlaws tomorrow

Ez

[gaunt phoenix]

!log @novel birch

[gleaming reef]

Anyway to make it flash or make a sound at 2 seconds left?

[stuck totem]

Did the buff introduced today make up any ground on Sub in M+ or is it still considerably ahead?

[next wedge]

maybe with addons? idk any way to do it with base ui

[keen belfry]

how do u guys have the patience to nicely critique someone who comes in here typing like razor fall

like u gotta critique and flame at that point

can do both

[next wedge]

most of that attitude comes from ignorance idk

like i get not knowing what you're doing wrong and being so upset about it

[keen belfry]

the fact he genuinely thinks he was playing well

is CRAZY

[glass mortar]

u remember that u are playing a game and in the discord for a game rated T for teen

[next wedge]

like me not being able to do damage all season long and it turns out i crafted an INT weapon

[glass mortar]

and there is a distinct chance the person ur chatting with is under the age of 16

[gleaming reef]

Lemme know if you see any.

[keen belfry]

the thing is he doesnt even think hes doing anything wrong, and then flames us for saying hes skill issued

[keen belfry]

his twitter says his production date was 2002

[next wedge]

idk i work with teenagers

hey same

[glass mortar]

why did u click into this persons twitter

[next wedge]

^

[keen belfry]

his discord*

discord bio

[glass mortar]

I have no idea what that is looks like an RP thing

[next wedge]

damn im older than him

[keen belfry]

can u guys imagine playing this verison of outlaw with no buff uptime

its gotta be the worst feeling thing in the game

[next wedge]

its so lame that having a 1 buff is more detrimental than having a 4 buff is good

[keen belfry]

new rtb is very good besides the existence of 1 buff

[next wedge]

no bro i miss old rtb kir

[keen belfry]

it had its problems but yes i loved it

[next wedge]

shit was much more dynamic and interesting

[keen belfry]

solo is so kind, reading this log review

i hope razor fall reads any of it ❤️

[next wedge]

wait do we not auto SnD anymore?

[keen belfry]

only dispatch

[next wedge]

off first dispatch

[keen belfry]

youre probs used to opening with crackshot BTE which sent out a dispatch

i think they forgot about that and didnt add snd to bte

[next wedge]

i see so im trolling by not casting it at start of key

minorly

[glass mortar]

lil bit

depends how good ur rng is

[keen belfry]

yeah u should AR before key

then snd in bubble

[glass mortar]

if u get 2-3 BtE procs u can easily go 10-20 seconds not applying SnD right in the opener

[quaint wharf]

new rtb is a W

[glass mortar]

which is unfortunat because alot of groups lust there

and not having SnD up for that much of lust is quite sad

[next wedge]

yea damn

i didnt realize bte didnt apply it anymore

[glass mortar]

another casualty of the loss of crackshot

[jagged plover]

like they forgot about removing vanish so ho still on the tree

[glass mortar]

[jagged plover]

[next wedge]

i miss crackshot and old rtb dude

[keen belfry]

its either thye forgot about it, or are leaving it shit on purpose

[next wedge]

so many people are calling this rework a W and i dont feel that way at all

[keen belfry]

this spec is close to being a banger, not TWW banger level but a banger for wow

[jagged plover]

rtb rework is fine

[keen belfry]

it needs energy and BF/Deft changes

[next wedge]

i hate it

[jagged plover]

the rest is very dubious to me

[next wedge]

it's so boring compared to what it used to be

[jagged plover]

it's more flat and simple but I don't think rtb was that exciting either

[twilit topaz]

100% agree, loved my vanish crackshot windows

Felt more controlled

[jagged plover]

the old gameplay loop was way more fun though

[keen belfry]

i mean nothing will compare to TWW outlaw, if you loved it

its probably gonna be a 1 of 1

[next wedge]

dragonflight s3 outlaw

[keen belfry]

in wow specs

[next wedge]

🙂

[keen belfry]

yeah i combine all those together

[gaunt phoenix]

about that log, i think there is a concept of being more understanding towards someone who is obviously irrationally frustrated

not fighting fire with more fire so to say

[keen belfry]

crackshot

[keen belfry]

youre just nicer than me

i teach aggresively

but u right

[next wedge]

like 3 people play this spec if we're chasing ppl off we're gonna go extinct

[jagged plover]

you gotta be a zen monk to deal with the level of cooked in most game discords

and not become a snarky asshole

[gaunt phoenix]

true

[buoyant cosmos]

-5 for covid years

[keen belfry]

i flame for mistakes but theres always the message EVENTUAALYL of why these are mistakes

[next wedge]

how are we acting like covid lasted until 2025

[buoyant cosmos]

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to just be a joke but some people took it seriously

[next wedge]

i just feel like people keep posthumously extending how long lockdown was in their minds

[keen belfry]

love lockdown

[next wedge]

its not just you i just see this a lot

[buoyant cosmos]

Had the place to myself for lockdown

was nice

[next wedge]

shit was awesome for me too

[keen belfry]

covid laste dlonger than it did cause man it felt so weird being in public once we all returned to it

like it genuinely felt weird being in a packed grocery store or bar again

banger timeline

[next wedge]

i just worked at panda express and skateboarded and smoked weed the whole time

[buoyant cosmos]

I liked how clean the Los Angeles skyline looked lol

And everyone drove 100+ in southern california

[glass mortar]

i liked that it took me 30 minutes max to cruise into NYC for work

because there was barely another car on the road

🤤

[fervent garden]

wha? dude that never happens. where you driving from?

[keen belfry]

u dont have ur license

[glass mortar]

i live outside the city

distance wise its a 25 minute drive

it is of course, usually 1-1.5 hours in or out

[fervent garden]

clearly. the island of long or staten or NJ?

[glass mortar]

but during covid i work in medical so i was working no lockdown

[buoyant cosmos]

yuck

[glass mortar]

and the commutes were soooooo good

[buoyant cosmos]

#essential

[glass mortar]

up north

[gaunt granite]

May be a dumb question here sorry if it is, but i saw sometime people post log review and people discuss about it, when i've done it i get 0 response in it,

May i did smth wrong ? or just getting unlucky ?

[gaunt phoenix]

no, it's just on a whim of who gets to see it when it's posted

and if they can find something obviously wrong

[glass mortar]

westchester

[gaunt granite]

alright ty

[buoyant cosmos]

You should commute by luxury boat like the bankers did in 1920

[next wedge]

you have to ragebait chat first

and then you'll get people looking at it to prove you wrong

[fervent garden]

nassau county. horrific commute

[glass mortar]

yup

[gaunt granite]

And then throw salt on my logs spitting on my mistakes, so can work on it,

I see where it goes, like it

[glass mortar]

i dont drive in or out anymore trust me

that ended with the end of lockdown

[gaunt phoenix]

outlaw logs are not exactly great cause you cant see the remaining cooldown on anything

which is 94% of the spec

[next wedge]

i started playing devourer

that whole spec is 5 buttons

[north sapphire]

one sentence horror

[next wedge]

during rwf my guild was talking about nightmare couch casts

i said preach, bellular, and asmongold

[novel birch]

Right regardless of everything else said about me, I've tried out the things you advised

should be another log up

It deffo felt better- I didn't know BTE had a higher prio

[fervent garden]

good man, keep your head up.

[next wedge]

Yeah dude just do your best to improve. Spec is hard actually

[novel birch]

I'm not tryna be an ass hole, but I'm just mad cause this class isn't intuitive, and getting actual advice instead of skill issue didn't seem feasible

[gaunt phoenix]

i put what i saw into a thread https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/1491146942313660446

[mystic berry]

The reason why I cant drop the law is because I have to earn my damage, this might be a con to some people

but I like to actually improve and do higher dmg

[novel birch]

I'll read the log you made asap

[mystic berry]

More so in law than any other class

[next wedge]

sometimes i get demoralized thinking about how much im sweating to get decent damage just for a devourer to press 3 buttons and top the dps charts

[mystic berry]

yeah it kinda sucks, but what helps me is thinking how bored I would be playing a 3 button class

[novel birch]

My latest log is better

still ass tho

[fervent garden]

one question on your comments. what do you mean +4 slamming BF as a generator. as oppossed to just keeping it up at 2 or more targets. thoughts?

[buoyant cosmos]

Takes time to unlearn bad habits / reflexes

[mystic berry]

4+ is on cd

[buoyant cosmos]

Don't forget to give yourself grace when learning new stuff

[mystic berry]

2 and 3 is just maintenance

[next wedge]

if there are 4 mobs around you press BF to generate full combo points

[fervent garden]

ahhhhhh

thank youk

[next wedge]

you have to have the talent that makes BF a generator tho

[mystic berry]

Well on cd when it makes sense

[novel birch]

I have just gotten some hero gloves to get my four set

[next wedge]

4 set helps, make sure you're using blade rush on CD

[novel birch]

I didn't have that. I didn't know the prio between BTE and dispatch, and I only in the last few weeks learned how the new RTB works

Sometimes I panic hit RTB tho

[fervent garden]

like we said, you're doing fine. stick around and read here. keep upp with builds, faq rotation, ect

[mystic berry]

its ok I still fuck up my btes to rhis day

and occasionally send on 5s

Its going down tho

[next wedge]

i do that shit all the time

[gaunt phoenix]

I still accidentally KIR at 1 buff, or KIR with no buff at all, or KIR and then immediately roll it

[next wedge]

always feels good to get it reset anyways #neverpunished

[novel birch]

I also didn't know I could use Dispatch at 5 and btw at 6. I figured you want it at max Combo points for max damage

[buoyant cosmos]

I hate that

And then the game gives you a 3/4 after a fat finger KIR

[novel birch]

I never really got taught outlaw, I just tried learning it

I didn't intuit any of that stuff

[next wedge]

bro yesterday in a key I press RtB then AR and then KiR

on a 1 buff

kms

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[mystic berry]

I take too long to press kir sometimes and I press it just as the roll goes away

It hurts

[buoyant cosmos]

It isn't very intuitive

[next wedge]

none of rogue is to be honest

class sucks

rework

[novel birch]

I had NO idea dispatch maintained slice and dice

wtf?

[buoyant cosmos]

This has probably been debated to death, but was the old version of RTB/KIR bad for the spec?

[next wedge]

what does bad for the game mean

oh

[buoyant cosmos]

wrong word

[next wedge]

was more fun to me, but required external tools to play well

[mystic berry]

rtb was not incremental buffs

[gaunt phoenix]

old KIR container stuff was an interesting mechanic but it was basically a bug/accident

[mystic berry]

but it was also not like, half your dps

[gaunt phoenix]

weird and needed a weakaura

[buoyant cosmos]

I played tons of it, and I liked it a lot more

[novel birch]

Thanks for being patient with me- I did just get off work so that was

rough...

[next wedge]

container was interesting but i dont think that it was good

but the 6 buffs were more fun

and the fact that you could force a 5/6 buff was more fun too

[buoyant cosmos]

I liked having more buffs to juggle and think about than having to remember the container stuff

[next wedge]

i feel like the new RtB has more variance than the old one

[buoyant cosmos]

KIR into KIR on 6 buff was so peak

[next wedge]

like you weren't often stuck on low buffs on old outlaw (especially in season 2 TWW, shit was peak)

but now if u get a 2 buff off rip you're stuck iwth it for a full minute

[novel birch]

tbf, last time I actually played outlaw "competitively" was Dragon flight season like... 2-3?

[gaunt phoenix]

we are just killing time until world war 3 tonight

[hollow tartan]

I think that was the last time it was "relevant"

[next wedge]

im young enough for the first round of the draft still 🙂

🙂

[buoyant cosmos]

have fun

https://tenor.com/view/delivery-gif-25942421

here's how you'd die

[jagged plover]

nah

[buoyant cosmos]

But the only solution was to not play

[north sapphire]

~1 week playing MM hunter

it SO FUCKING BORING

but dmging more then when i play outlaw

depressing

[novel birch]

This was the new raid boss against the Naru lady

A lil better

[eternal hound]

Bro

Why do people duo keys

and immediately leave cuz "oh they're low ilvl" For a 9

Like bro

why are you even signing up then

[mystic berry]

I had this mage

complaining we didnt have lust and it was all melee

at a fucking 4 I was running a friend with

Relaxed even

[mystic berry]

Getting better bro

try to log yourself

and spot mistakes

[eternal hound]

Brooo they gotta be trolling

Like unironically

"Why didn't we lust" BRO YOU ARE LUST

[gaunt phoenix]

that looks like a different word

[novel birch]

Oops

[eternal hound]

Oops

[mystic berry]

Oops

[sullen wyvern]

I hit 90 last night, 30 minutes later I joined a 10 with some friends that helped me and another player that was an actual carry, we +2 it lol

10s are too easy to time now

[real yew]

/opener

[buoyant cosmos]

"It's called hero, what's lust?" kinda player

[old gull]

what w think boys myth offhand or myth tier gloves

[formal thunder]

does the offhand have the right stats?

[old gull]

haste vers

[keen belfry]

gloves

im psure ur gonna craft a dagger

[formal thunder]

ye, glove tset have bis stats

[muted crest]

wtf is this tunin on outlaw good or bad? in my read its bad anyo other opinion?

[eternal hound]

I am aware

also

I have no friends

[jagged plover]

better than nothing still not very good

[slim hare]

its bad

reallly bad

slap in the face bad

or piss on your corpse badd

[lucid sparrow]

the 'it depends' made me chuckle

[slim hare]

we underperform in almost all situation

but they had to "balance" aoe

cause guys we are really close to being op on aoe as an hard capped spec

insane level of incompetence from blizzard

probably grok and not blizzard tbf

even content creator are saying we should close discord

[indigo token]

it really is like

we're being fucked with on purpose

[lucid sparrow]

the balancing on this spec

is

cant even find good word for it

just so funny

having to read that

oh yea 8 target 1% loss but then 1% gain at 9

[gaunt phoenix]

It's not true

[cinder relic]

Oh thats what I thought it was

[gaunt phoenix]

Should be a small loss even at 20 target

But since they fucked it idek anymore

Just leave it, embrace the confusion

[indigo token]

befuddling

[craggy barn]

no one fucking knows anything!

just roll the dice and pray u win

#outlaw4lyfe

[jagged plover]

every pull roll two dice and aura buff or nerf by 1/2/3/4/5/6%

[craggy barn]

god damage variance in aoe is so funny

go into a pack stuck on 1 dice and just cry

[junior heart]

I feel like we are being balanced for only rolling jackpots. But never see them...

[craggy barn]

then as soon as u get ar back up and can roll into 2+ u just actually do damage

[ornate loom]

Btw how do the buffs feel for outlaw?

[junior heart]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hang-first-time

[thorny mural]

i might be crazy but i dont think 4% is gonna pull us from the depths

also unless im understanding this wrong, we got slight nerfs with the buff lol

[karmic stag]

I’m still hoping that the level of incompetence they show allows us to accidentally get a 40% buff from a bad decimal just so we can feel alive for 20 minutes before the hotfix nerfing us 80% out of fear

[thorny mural]

outlaw is so bad it could get 40% all damage and still not be s tier

[sullen wyvern]

skill issue

question: am I losing too much dps if I hold KiR for a stage 3 at least?

[thorny mural]

i mean not a ton but the windows without 2x combo points are gonna chew through your energy and you just quickly slide off a cliff

[frail veldt]

I think 15% buff without touching bladeflurry would have us as pretty damn strong

[frail veldt]

Yes

[quiet root]

yeah for sure, 15% we'd be super strong

[thorny mural]

id say youre losing around 10-15% so a ton but not a ton

[quiet root]

let alone 40

[frail veldt]

40 would be insane

[mystic berry]

They know we hit 2m dps at algethar if they uncap us

Blizzard is protecting us from law meta

[thorny mural]

realistically yes but big numbers are funnier

im just a doomer

this spec feels really bad

[sullen wyvern]

10-15 is a ton imo lol.

[frail veldt]

There's kind of a double issue here which is that outlaw is still deceptively hard

And a lot of people are playing it poorly

[thorny mural]

yes it is

[mystic berry]

I would say that its rather that only a handful play it right

[sullen wyvern]

Ok, so wit hthat question answered, giving that in a key you can do the pre stuff shenanigans, meaning that you'll have loaded dice sitting there, should I roll even after KiR if I wanna roll a stage 2 into something better?

[thorny mural]

im just estimating. it also depends on how lucky you get tbf

[sullen wyvern]

So in few words my first roll is stage 2 > I KiR ? I get Another loaded dice cuz the first one was from the pre key shenanigans >? I try to roll again

[mystic berry]

But if elvis cant top charts playing perf outlaw then I think its not a skill issue def

[thorny mural]

i mean the way ive been opening is ar (loaded dice), guarantees stage 2 or higher, kir, wait out the timer

[mystic berry]

spec issue fr

[quiet root]

yeah it took me a while to learn the new rotation well enough to start competing with my friend pisschilling on his ret

[frail veldt]

What's the difference

[thorny mural]

i mean whats the right way to play outlaw now? the spec feels pretty braindead

[mystic berry]

That the rule here is playing wrong and playing right is the vastly outnumbered exception

[thorny mural]

unless im also playing the spec wrong, it doesnt seem like its very hard to play correctly

[quiet root]

you should take a look at basically any other spec

[thorny mural]

ive heard theyre far more braindead than we are

[jagged plover]

I was looking at frost mage

they barely even bolt anymore

[gaunt phoenix]

No, it's actually the same average

RNG curve is wider though

So lower lows and higher highs

[jagged plover]

just pure insta cast spam, goated

[frail veldt]

Yes a lot of people are playing it poorly

[thorny mural]

but i used to take some form of pride in the fact outlaw was pretty tough and now its just builder finisher with insta builders and rolls

[frail veldt]

Oh whaaaaaat it's not a loss even without prep?

[gaunt phoenix]

It's not

[frail veldt]

I thought it was kinda substantial

Wild

Def didn't know that

[gaunt phoenix]

Our rng curve is wide enough already tho

[thorny mural]

wow glad someone with a brain can answer

[frail veldt]

True

[thorny mural]

bc i dont ahve one

i guessed wrong sorry taranx

[sullen wyvern]

Ok, I see. I am also running both sleight and loaded dice (got it from zac's build) idk if it's worth mentioning but yeah

[thorny mural]

bad comms

[sullen wyvern]

No worries bro

[gaunt phoenix]

I forgive you

[sullen wyvern]

I am also running prep

[gaunt phoenix]

Everyone uses that

[sullen wyvern]

prep is cool ngl, imagine if it was inside RB

[thorny mural]

in m+?

[gaunt phoenix]

Not always prep but sleight yeah

[thorny mural]

ive been running no prep m+ am i selling

[gaunt phoenix]

Prep probably better in big dick keys

[sullen wyvern]

so if not big dick keys what should I run? less BTE CD?

[mystic berry]

I use prep as a "oh shit the tank is being slow" button

I know it isnt optimal

but it makes me happy

[gaunt phoenix]

2nd point in summarily dispatched

[thorny mural]

thats me

[pearl trout]

prep feels kinda weird sometimes, I feel bad when I press it and feel bad when I don't press it

[sullen wyvern]

Gonna take that into consideration, gonna run some simms. Thanks

[mystic berry]

Its an awful button

to press

it breaks your flow completely

Its awkard to fit in

[sand jewel]

I think it’s time we went rogue and shut down the Discord until the devs stop treating us like shit. The small nerf is just insulting at this point.

[quiet root]

yeah but there's like 10 people in here

[inland meteor]

those 10 have massive aura tho

[quiet root]

i feel like it wouldn't be as effective as, say, the ret discord shutdown

[sand jewel]

Sure, but if it has an effect at all it is worth it.

[thorny mural]

we'd literally have to boycott the game for a day lmfao

[gaunt phoenix]

They should sim the same result or close enough

Prep is perhaps just more meaningful with coordination

[thorny mural]

if 10% of rets boycott they do as much damage as all of us im pretty sure

so its pretty hard to get them to care

[frail veldt]

My mind is kinda blown that KiR 2 vs 3 is just identical average haha

[mystic berry]

It would take blizz like 6 months to realize rogue disc closed

[inland meteor]

how do u use prep correctly in a situation where u wanna use prep? AR -> immediately prep? or AR -> do normal rotation-> then prep?

[frail veldt]

It feels like it would be such a huge difference

[pearl trout]

if all outlaw players boycotted that would just be a another tuesday in the office at Blizzard, you cant multiply 0

[frail veldt]

And holding KiR for SO LONG sometimes

[sullen wyvern]

I like using prep to stack BTE early, but the issue I've found by doing this is that I lose Loaded dice since they are just sitting there if I get a stage / 4 roll that I KiR'd

[thorny mural]

should i open vault as sin or outlaw?

[zenith sequoia]

shutting down the ret discord would be like shutting down TSA
shutting down the rogue discord would be like taking the bitcoin ATMs out of all the gas stations

[thorny mural]

ive got crafted mainhand

[glass mortar]

Do u want a dagger or slow weapon

[thorny mural]

so sin then

[glass mortar]

That's all it changes

[potent ore]

We meta now ?

[mystic berry]

always have been

[quiet root]

yeah if you look at raider.io representation, there are 21 rets for every 1 outlaw

[mystic berry]

[sand jewel]

It’s 166k users in this discord. It’s not nothing. We are not asking to be Meta, just not useless - and bring our cleave back

[pearl trout]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-bro-hand-on-shoulder-gif-11963500747147243380

[indigo token]

was this AI generated

why the hyphen

[inland meteor]

its short hyphen not long hyphen therefore not ai generated

[sand jewel]

Ai generated 💀

[sullen wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[frail veldt]

Rets shutting down their discord was very unlikely to have influenced blizzards decision to buff them

And shutting down ours would also do nothing

[glass mortar]

Rets shutting down their discord is why they r a laughing stock to many other discords

[mystic berry]

It was hilarious tho

[glass mortar]

Yea it was

[frail veldt]

Well that and them thinking it actually did something

[pearl trout]

we can be on our lowest but never as low as ret discord lol

[frail veldt]

The only thing dumber than shutting it down is believing it worked

[glass mortar]

Hilarious to point and laugh at another community being super cringe. I'd be disappointed if it was my own

[quiet root]

yeah we still poke fun at my ret main friend about it

[mystic berry]

We would have to go to the forums and have our threads poached by a certain person

[frail veldt]

Didn't rsham channel get shut down?

[haughty wigeon]

nah man

[frail veldt]

Not the whole disc but the resto specific one?

[glass mortar]

Yes but that was a standalone discord that just closed down

[haughty wigeon]

spec is getting super W's

all of mn

[mystic berry]

Shit he is here

[glass mortar]

The rshaman section of shaman discord never changed

[frail veldt]

Ah I see

[haughty wigeon]

anyone who says other wise doesnt play rogue

[glass mortar]

🏄 🏄‍♀️

Midnight hype train is about to leave the station dont miss it!

🏄

[haughty wigeon]

You have yet to provide insight about anythinmg relevant to April 7th notes regarding the Rogue changes which is in the original post. All you do is plagarize other people’s work and pass it off as your own work or your own opinion.

April 7th tuning is a huge W for the Rogue community and it bothers you so much you keep replying in my thread. Thanks for the free post that keeps this topic alive I guess?

Sanguine Vial is an important upgrade for Assassination and Outlaw Rogue so nothing can stop from the truth reaching the many Rogues players that play MN live no matter how hard you try to suppress this obvious reality.

🏄‍♀️ 🏄‍♂️

[mystic berry]

There is no running away from him

[sand jewel]

Obviously it has an effect, perception is everything for any company dealing w custumers

[novel birch]

Boss DPS update

Much better than it was. I was top AoE damage for some pulls, which is way better too

[mystic berry]

which boss is that

[frozen quest]

Huh Tank dps I would log off 😂

[sullen wyvern]

you got this

[novel birch]

The dude at the end- I forget his name

I was at like 200k for some of the group pulls (DPS)

[mystic berry]

pit of saron?

[novel birch]

Yeah

It's just gonna take a while to get used to hitting my buttons differently

[frail veldt]

Wait do we get sanguine vial on Tuesday or is that a 0.5 thing

[mystic berry]

you guys were generating a lot of adds

prob

[mystic berry]

.5

[frail veldt]

Ah rip

[near pewter]

is there a world where it's hero plume over myth neck

[undone notch]

I got Hero Alnseer from vault lets goooo

[sullen wyvern]

isnt it supposed to be the umbral plume though

[eternal hound]

It's a thunderstrike trinkie

It swaps

[gaunt phoenix]

Its has an on-use that swaps to umbral

[sullen wyvern]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

my bad

I would do the weekly first you might get it from there

if you havent

[bright plaza]

has outlaw pulled ahead as the top m+ spec yet

[thorny mural]

anyone here sitting around 260 ilvl? if so, what are you simming at?

[fathom bramble]

it seems to be pulling behind actually

[bright plaza]

even after two "buffs"?

[thorny mural]

well we got a small nerf with our buff

[stuck totem]

It is always a buff with a backhanded nerf of some sort.

It is super weird and always seems to happen to Outlaw.

[thorny mural]

blizz is actually incapable of just admitting theyre terrible at tuning and just straight buffing something

[river wing]

broskis
I was cleaning out my hard drive
and I happened upon
a peculiar picture that perfectly explains everything
we don't get x.3 patches anymore

[fathom bramble]

places you can look for objective stats seem to indicate that sub/sin are pulling ahead

it's gg

[mystic berry]

Its happening with a lot of classes, its just that with rogue its a bit uncalled for

[bright plaza]

gg

back to aug evoker i go

bitter forever.

[mystic berry]

they didnt even disagree

they just

dont say anything now

lmao

[novel birch]

Woah

[thorny mural]

what

[vivid vessel]

assa was already ahead pre buff

[mystic berry]

Pumping

[vivid vessel]

and then

[river wing]

huh? is this US with the M+ weekly?

[vivid vessel]

they buff assa ?

[sullen wyvern]

im convinced that zac did/said something to a dev at blizzard

and we are all paying the price

[mystic berry]

Yeah

[sullen wyvern]

and that dev is not even nerfing outlaw

is just target nerfing zac

[river wing]

cuts down on work y'know

[sullen wyvern]

Imma play the lottery guys

[karmic stag]

And with that many amps you finally did average damage

[novel birch]

Most damage I've done since changing how I play tot he right way

[karmic stag]

All our power is hidden behind those procs

[novel birch]

I hit like 300k, but missed the screenshot

[sullen wyvern]

it is a delve though

[karmic stag]

Oof

[buoyant cosmos]

bro doesn't know the realz lore

[glass mortar]

heart of the wind in vault

[buoyant cosmos]

Bottle of farts

[glass mortar]

ok so my options are

turn a champ track tier into hero track (with catalyst) or turn a hero track tier into myth track (with catalyst)

and thats my best choice

great vaults so far this expac 10/10

[buoyant cosmos]

do it for the mog atp

[jolly geyser]

chillin

[craggy quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-cat-dance-cute-cat-dance-ai-cat-gif-15064057413633942575

[eternal hound]

I was doing the story mode earlier

Rolled like 4 4s in a row

And crazy BTE resets

I was like "dude where the fuck is this in keys"

[river wing]

had a crazy pull during our heroic chim first night
like 6 jackpots and the rest were triples
wiped at 12% b/c the tank FORGOT to pull Chim away from mobs

[inner yacht]

if im almost capped on haste and crit the powerful diamond should be ahead of the indecipherable one?

[peak hull]

We less dogshit now?

[static crescent]

no

[tiny onyx]

the vault was good

[peak hull]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-gif-22871182

[buoyant cosmos]

1% buffer

rounding error aahh tuning

[undone notch]

Overall damage positive tho

3.5% overall for dungeons

[peak hull]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-nod-agree-gif-15074372

[deft wraith]

Is there any argument for not taking an upgrade to Myth track main hand from vault just because it has vers/mastery?

[novel birch]

Yeah, this feels so much better, wtf?

[frail veldt]

Dungeon overall shouldn't be affected by more than a couple percent I thought

[tiny onyx]

I think generally youd want to take myth track weapon even if it doesnt have ideal stats, but i think in this case since it has mastery that it might not be that great of an option?
Are you able to do crafted weapons?
Also if you're raiding mythic I feel like there are a couple daggers there that might not be ideal stats but still save you a different vault option

[frail veldt]

So before patch you would have been at like 103k

[novel birch]

Oh, this is not the buff, this is just me finally learning how to actually play the class the right way

[deft wraith]

I have a crafted dagger for sub that will be my outlaw OH. Outlaw is secondary. The other options are the haste/vers pendant or the hoook trinket... and neither seems like a huge win over getting myself a myth weapon

[tiny onyx]

I would recommend simming it for yourself to see the best option, but from what you're saying it seems like the myth weapon is the way to go

[keen belfry]

ju missed lore

razorfalls had an awakening today

on how to play outlaw

[buoyant cosmos]

Glad it's working out

[frail veldt]

Yeah weren't they doing 30k before

WhTd they change

That's a big revelation

[novel birch]

I was doing 28k on single target boss fights, now I'm doing like, 70-80k, from memory

[keen belfry]

hoyl shit razor just became rank 1

[frail veldt]

The helly were you doing before

[novel birch]

I wasn't using Keep it rolling enough, and was using dispatch too often instead of BTE

[frail veldt]

Wild

[novel birch]

I was also wasting combo points on slice and dice when dispatch applies it, which I didn't realise

lemme get the screenshot I sent earlier

This was my Veximus fight earlier compared to the dude at the end of Pit after that god send log review

[buoyant cosmos]

Krystal a real one

[novel birch]

Yeah, my friend on their DK

She's a boss, oml

Got me into making and practicing a blood DK, which has been pretty damn fun

[buoyant cosmos]

Stripper name is kinda crazy but hey, what can you do

BDK is fun

[novel birch]

BDK is fun

[vivid vessel]

@frail veldt

remember in tww s3

when i was dooming about new m+ design

being so bad for high keys

(mobs having no cast bars and just doing damage to you randomly)

and you told me we should wait cause we dont know if thats their new design etc

it was

every dungeon

you just die

to random mobs that jumps on you

no cast time

just infnite overlap of mobs that do random damage that is invisible

we removed addons for this

[north sapphire]

NO WAY

ARE YOU A REAL MAFIC?

I thought mafic is an AI model

chat is this real?

[frigid pelican]

Wait what? You can upgrade tiers?

[glass mortar]

no

[frail veldt]

ngl good chance I was heavy memeing when I said this lol

[haughty wigeon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/gravity-puke-puking-mOGAw3xz4Na7e

[tall island]

Mafic. The man, the meme, the legend.

[dawn tundra]

Myth-Tier Trinket or Hero Wrists?

[gaunt phoenix]

what trinket?

[dawn tundra]

Solarflare Prism.

[gaunt phoenix]

mythic track?

[dawn tundra]

Mhm.

I already have the Champion version of it.

[gaunt phoenix]

sim tier vs trinkey

[dawn tundra]

Wrists aren't tier and I already have my four set.

[north sapphire]

no brainer trinket

[smoky lotus]

is renown trinket really that good? doesnt even lose out to something 10 ilvls higher

[gaunt phoenix]

it is

if you upgraded it

[smoky lotus]

yeah im probably still taking prism because its myth track but yeah

[thin snow]

[north sapphire]

isnt it bugged?

I thought so

[gaunt phoenix]

nop

fixed a few weeks ago

[north sapphire]

i mean bugged when simming

[novel birch]

https://klipy.com/gifs/star-wars-jxd

[north sapphire]

something with 3 buffs at the same time

[gaunt phoenix]

not to my knowledge

[north sapphire]

ok mister solo

[thin snow]

Renown trinket is sick

[weak elk]

does it really matter which poison we use? obviously 1 is instant, but atrophic vs crippling?

[peak hull]

Depends on what you need

Generally I like attophic takes less dmg. Crippling helps with kitting packs tho.

[weak elk]

gotcha

kinda what i figured but i looked through faq and didnt see an answer, maybe im blind though

[vivid vessel]

every death we have in keys rn

are just these

[craggy barn]

skill issue

[vivid vessel]

every keys you have the same type of mobs

[craggy barn]

those skills are an issue

!

[vivid vessel]

mobs that dash on you

randomly

and one shot

no cd

no cast bar

true peak design

addons had to die for this

[tawny dagger]

Resi 17 and winning +2 io on a 12

[vivid vessel]

bien joué, etre mortel

baguette

[frail veldt]

Maybe intended

[glass mortar]

zac

the laser beam on last boss of skyreach and puddles

[vivid vessel]

nono

[glass mortar]

why does cloak non immune them

[vivid vessel]

these mobs

[glass mortar]

[vivid vessel]

are in the same pack

@frail veldt

[glass mortar]

i thought iwas being so clever

[frail veldt]

Yes

[vivid vessel]

its not even a case

[glass mortar]

gunna drop all my poop in one spot

[vivid vessel]

of pulling too much

its a case of every mob like that in keys rn

[frail veldt]

Sap one so you only have to deal with one mob at a time

[vivid vessel]

you hzve to avoid

or you die

prolly cant sap

[frail veldt]

Then blind lol

[glass mortar]

the fire mage is one of the "big" elites in those pulls

i dont believe shes ccable

[vivid vessel]

how abouty you stfu mewo

[glass mortar]

any cc

[frail veldt]

Lololol

Blizzard designed this

Can't be wrong

They gave us deadly pursuit

[vivid vessel]

first sec imunes it

[glass mortar]

culd be wrong tho i havent been paying attention to her because im using default blizzard frames and they make it basically impossible to tell who

[glass mortar]

ye which is useless

[vivid vessel]

as usual

[glass mortar]

i mean its not usual

stuff going through cloak is wack

it does happen

cause its not true immunity obv

but like half the dungeons ive done this season

magic boss effects that leave poop on the floor go right thru cloak

is this a new design team or something

the purple walls on first boss in pit also

cant remove the debuff, cant immune the damage

[frail veldt]

Das weird

And annoying

[vivid vessel]

whats that

purple walls ?

im confused

[glass mortar]

yea

[vivid vessel]

there aint no walls

[glass mortar]

er

wait second boss

the gnome guy

ive done that dungeon twice idk

last time i paid attention in it was 15 years ago

when i did it for the first time

[vivid vessel]

what puddle or

[glass mortar]

the walls

[vivid vessel]

there is no walls bro

tf you mean walls

[glass mortar]

around the gnomes

[vivid vessel]

what

[glass mortar]

ye he summons purple beam walls around the area

[vivid vessel]

what is this guy yapping about

[glass mortar]

so u cant just run forever in one direction from the fixate

[vivid vessel]

wtf kind of walls

oh

like the arena

[glass mortar]

yes

[vivid vessel]

i mean whatever bro

dont go out of the arena

gg

[glass mortar]

i touched it with my pp once when grappling to a gnome cause its like 1 foot behind some of them

it kills u

badly

[vivid vessel]

noob

[glass mortar]

and u cant cloak it

that was in a 8 too

[vivid vessel]

honeslty never tried toucvhing

i kinda assumed it was like

a phsical wall thing

[glass mortar]

ye i only hit it the once

but why the heck does cloak not work

its a curse debuff

it does shadow damage

REEEE

[strong cargo]

Pretty sure you can't even bubble it as paladin 🤔

[glass mortar]

these dungeon npcs

r stronger then raid bosses

theyve found magic that pierces all player immunities

!!

new lore ig

[wintry solar]

It's old lore

Part of what makes DKs OP in lore

[vivid vessel]

i also assumed you would be able to cloak that

but you cant

its like lazer beam on you putting big absorb heal

@frail veldt @glass mortar https://www.twitch.tv/zac__________________/clip/SparklingViscousCardPastaThat-btvmvOYH4-9gFDGk rate mob design

[glass mortar]

zac....

i upgraded all my stuff...

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/64PkTFEZoNNN2HtaRLVMDD

im finally not tiny anymore zac.....

[vivid vessel]

272?

you are tiny bro

[glass mortar]

massive....

look how big ive gotten..

[vivid vessel]

im legit 4 ilvl higher than

you

pre reset

[frail veldt]

Meleed?

[vivid vessel]

tf you doing lil bud

[vivid vessel]

ye you havent encountered these m obs yet ?

when tank pulls them

[frail veldt]

Might not have noticed lol

[vivid vessel]

if you are in combat with tank on another pack

they just jump on random people

and melee

[frail veldt]

Sick

[vivid vessel]

ye

its very cool

[glass mortar]

zac... trickster woulda lived there....

[frail veldt]

Very fun

[vivid vessel]

prolly yes

[glass mortar]

i miss perma tricks so much...

[frail veldt]

Same

[glass mortar]

but trickster is so ass i never wanna play it again.....

[frail veldt]

Same

[glass mortar]

why is it always like this....

[frail veldt]

I hope they don't buff trickster

So we don't have to play KS and boring rules

[novel isle]

@novel birch what you do? 😮

[jagged plover]

our spec is so cucked man

it could be so much better with just a few changes

[novel birch]

When?

[craggy glen]

Anyone else hate thistletea

[snow hill]

I had no choice but to go Sub. Outlaw was mid-high in keys but holy fuck my raid dmg... Literally lost on dps to tanks every boss.

[snow hill]

I hate that there's 3 charges of it. They should just make it perma.

[craggy glen]

I reckon they should just remove the talent it's such an annoying thing to have to play around

[snow hill]

Like just, literally keep it as is without no cooldown, everytime you dip, you go up. Energy shortage solved. If your gonna make us a steady consistent dmg spec, then meet us halfway with the energy regen. We can negotiate that 16% aura buff they reverted to us over whose kids we eat of the devs later.

[vivid vessel]

i mena

you dont really play around it tho

i believe there is some optimisations for keys but

i thin 99% of pplayers can just ignore it and it wouldnt matter one bit

[craggy glen]

Every other class seemingly never runs out of resources, we got thistle tea

[vivid vessel]

yes well

outlaw energy sucks

cause we didnt complain enough in tww

[snow hill]

^^^

[vivid vessel]

so they nerfed it more

[craggy glen]

I mean, I get choked out for energy on burst windows all the time

[tawny dagger]

Like what, sending a charge on large pulls during cds like first AA one ?

[vivid vessel]

it doesnt give mastery anymore

[tawny dagger]

Eh

[craggy glen]

Adrenalin rush doesn't even keep up

[vivid vessel]

rahter trying to not proc at end of packs on 1 mob if you are going into a boss

[latent oak]

just dont proc it end up packs

[tawny dagger]

Well ye ok that's fair

[snow hill]

That's another thing too, buff our fucking Mastery. When SS hits twice for yellow it isn't a bad feeling, it kinda like it.

[craggy glen]

Rogue really needs a rework

[snow hill]

100%

[craggy glen]

So many of our talents are dead

[latent oak]

just undo the midnight rework

and tweak that

[craggy glen]

And we lost so much of our utility over the years

Like stealth is kinda pointless in m+ even with chain pulling

[wintry solar]

SL in its entirety

[snow hill]

Nah, sorry, I'm a dad gamer now, I couldn't play Outlaw in TWW without hekili. Say what you want, but of the 10-12 hours I get to play a week, I wasn't willing to stand in front of a target dummy for 5 of them. This pruning was a step in the right direction, but half baked at best. This is a draft we are playing, not a final product. they know it too.

[wintry solar]

All the fan favorites coming back

SL was a good middle ground :)

Not to mention peak ofc

SL rogue

[craggy glen]

We need to start a protest

[latent oak]

why do u think u needed to stand in front of a dummy if u only play 12 hrs a week

[craggy glen]

ROGUES ARENT INVISIBLE

[snow hill]

I do really miss the dynamic play of RTB but... that was fun, just hated the vanish component.

[latent oak]

just play a suboptimal build with less buttons

[craggy glen]

Peak rogue was cata for me...

[latent oak]

idk new outlaw is just old outlaw with more problems and less fun rotational hooks

[craggy glen]

I miss lockpicking and pickpocketing being relevant

[wintry solar]

They need to buff dmg and pass outlaw as the Russian stealth archetype

[craggy glen]

It was fun getting weird loot from pickpocket

Actually legion was great too

[inner yacht]

tbh part where if u cant restealth after a pack u lose half of ar uptime was very frustrating

[latent oak]

just pull for ur tank if he's trolling

u had infinite tricks

[cinder relic]

Pickpocketing was relefant last patch

I loved the wax

Cool feature

[latent oak]

wax very cool

[craggy glen]

[latent oak]

kobalds in general are very cool

[snow hill]

To get the muscle memory, I tried running it naked for weeks at a time and just couldn't keep up with the rotation, mainly syncing my brain to the vanish reset. That was cancer asF. Things got better when I trained the target dummy, but when we started mythic raid prog I couldn't handle all the extra stimulus + the rotation dynamics also.

[tawny dagger]

Well we played rogue on BRH watching priests doing all the cages lockpick

[vivid vessel]

and we played it for one night until we realized it was bugged

[cinder relic]

we played wax all expac

wdym

[latent oak]

the feeling of constantly neededing to keep up with ur rotation was fun af to me idk

[vivid vessel]

no we didnt

[latent oak]

the 'nervous' gameplay was one of the peak things about outlaw to me

and its just gone

[old gull]

I MISS CRACKSHOT

[vivid vessel]

you are gonna tell me i open one of your log rn and you are waxed

no one was waxed

it was legit bugged from day 1 disapearing and shit

[latent oak]

one wax wasnt bugged no?

was just 2 that was

[frail veldt]

Ye wax was equal to the stone I thought

And it was free

I used it in aoe

[vivid vessel]

well idk about free

[frail veldt]

I thought solo said it was better

[latent oak]

i see what u mean about some people not being able to keep up at all, but for me that kind of gameplay was actually peak wow

[vivid vessel]

i value my time

[frail veldt]

Buddy

[craggy glen]

I miss smokebomb in pve

[latent oak]

prime sitting in lfg content

[frail veldt]

Big dog

[snow hill]

I'm not saying it was bad man, I loved the intensity of it, I'm an AuDHD too, so I get it, but holy fuck when that tunnel vision kicked in and I kept clicking the BTE button only for it to do nothing because I didn't hit vanish, that fucked me everytime. I love Outlaw but, I kept on with Hekili because I didn't want to give it up. I killed all 3 ?? Nemesis with it and fucking LOVED Princess Ky'veza too haha.

[latent oak]

pickpocketing kobalds

[vivid vessel]

big doggy

[frail veldt]

Lol

[vivid vessel]

bark for me meow

[latent oak]

ok but having something to improve on makes the game fun no?

[snow hill]

Bro like, there is a crack in my brain for the universal god tier sound of 'Chick-Chek' repeating like 4 times that melted my soul

[frail veldt]

Some people have this on any spec lol

[cinder relic]

Wax was better in first and last tier

[frail veldt]

There's always sooooomething to improve

A little

[craggy glen]

Rework thistle tea, rework feint, rework vanish.

[cinder relic]

See

I was using it all expac

[vivid vessel]

noob logs

thats why you blue parse guy

[snow hill]

Oh it did, but the frustration just pissed me off. But that's Outlaw right? who said that weird quote last year during Undermine raid? went something alone the lines of: "I'm a crack shotting dynamic super speedy offensive slot machine and I'm coming to kill you" - I butchered that hard but thats what I love about Outlaw. It's awkward all the time but when you get it right you play a piano in flow state. At least in TWW, I didn't get into Rogue before that.

[vivid vessel]

too rp focused

[snow hill]

As in, roleplay?

[vivid vessel]

i wasnt talking to you

sorry

ye rp

[snow hill]

My Autism showing now: currently lost in this convo now, peace!

[stuck tiger]

Dw, youre speaking the truth

[ornate rune]

just pulled heroic plume from weekly box. its that easy.

[wintry solar]

Missed out

Maining outlaw is such a journey

[snow hill]

Yeah I know... Warrior main for nearly 17 years but didn't get bit by the Pirate bug until end of DF. always wanted to main a rogue, took the opportunity during TBC classic and mained combat and fell in love with it.

[wintry solar]

I'm gonna let that combat comment slide

We don't speak of that name

But I agree

[winter tartan]

@patent lion man why does my energy feel so bad? Should i be pooling? Also dude, when do i restealth??? my m+ parses are so bad

[gaunt phoenix]

eh?

why are you bugging whispyr in here?

[craggy glen]

We should all stop huffing the copium, rogues in a terrible state and needs a rework. All talent trees are a mismatch of terrible things.

I dont even think blizzard knows where rogue should sit as a class anymore.

[wintry solar]

Idc about the state lowkey frfr tbh

What am I gonna do, not play outlaw?

[craggy glen]

I still play it

[wintry solar]

As long as it's fun it's fine

[wintry solar]

Well I'm the main character

Soz

[knotty needle]

billions must swap to ret pally otp

[craggy glen]

Rogue just feels so underwhelming compared to other classes now

[vivid vessel]

i think they are coworkers

[wintry solar]

Real

[gaunt phoenix]

wtf ur famous..

[wintry solar]

Hey voodoo let me hold a dollar

[gaunt phoenix]

can you bug foreverguy

[winter tartan]

no sorry i dont know him id feel bad lol

[vivid vessel]

whyspir doesnt even know outlaw is a spec no cap

[wintry solar]

I mean there's no cap there tbh

[vivid vessel]

capped at 8 target wdym

whisp tells your corworker what buttons to press

[cinder relic]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HEypHeNWEAAK76S.webp

[winter tartan]

damn is he gonna dono wall me

[patent lion]

I’m gonna roll your bones into a delectable stew

[wintry solar]

You mean broth?

[winter tartan]

yummy

[patent lion]

Okay sorry I didn’t realize this was the cooking police in here

[wintry solar]

[buoyant cosmos]

There are some chefs in here

[undone notch]

NGL it feels like the cleave changes hit Trickster harder than Fatebound

Bruhhh

[gaunt phoenix]

fatebound was 44%, now 41%
trickster was 49%, now 45%

also fatebound tails coin got rando buffed

[haughty wigeon]

roll THIS

[wintry solar]

Ooooooooooo

[final pagoda]

what are those numbers?

[slim hare]

you took aggro and got melee?

[gaunt phoenix]

bf

[final pagoda]

damage share %?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

[slim hare]

wdym tails coin got buffed?

[cinder relic]

Lura is such a cool fucking fight

[slim hare]

yeah looks awesome

[glass mortar]

guys... if we bother whispyr enough in here do u think we can get him to mute zac again....

[wintry solar]

Absolutely

It's not even a matter of if, it's a matter of when

[shadow trellis]

Right!?

Im in awe on that boss

I hope they make more like it

[gray summit]

Trickster better than fatebound ???!

Or i am a baguette and do not understand welk

[gaunt phoenix]

no, fatebound is better

[gaunt phoenix]

trickster has a higher blade flurry number, but that doesnt make it better on its own

[gray summit]

Thanks my buddoes

[livid smelt]

so hows it going did we get buffed today or not?

[gaunt phoenix]

we did mostly

the yesterday pin is correct

[quartz patio]

So, with the 4pc tier, do we always have bf online or only when cleave needed?

[candid abyss]

read the tooltip again

[gaunt phoenix]

only on cleave

[glass mortar]

the br aoe tooltip thing has no effect on the main target

[quartz patio]

Is it not worth keeping RTB on cd and holding KIR until getting stage 3 or 4?

[gaunt phoenix]

definitely not

oh

[surreal flower]

[keen belfry]

what is this

[lucid sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[keen belfry]

just spam rtb when kir ready?

XD

[wintry solar]

Ain't gotta tell me twice

Maybe you do with new RtB nvm

[gaunt phoenix]

dont worry about it for now

Sleight of hand is very slightly overestimated in sim

with such margins it would affect this result

[gaunt phoenix]

spam rtb for 3-4 only and only kir 3-4

[keen belfry]

wat

[teal garnet]

Has anyone noticed their RTB falling off the buff bar randomly?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes, but its a thing with your cdm addon

[teal garnet]

great, and ty

[prisma heron]

For craft of neck I just do the regular stack stick?

[ripe epoch]

Do we have any addons that gives the reload sound when CP are refunded? I Miss the WA

[frail veldt]

Noooooooo

Cursed

[wintry solar]

That's a rule I can get behind

[frail veldt]

Default blizzard sound should do this

If you have it enabled

[quartz patio]

Is there a bug where like, starting the raid boss pull with Shroud is dropping the roll buff once shroud drops?

[keen belfry]

if you have it showing when not active, like greyed out, it can bug

[teal garnet]

i dont

[sullen wyvern]

!stats

[ornate heath]

Outlaw's stat prio is generally Crit > Haste* > Vers >= Mastery.

• You need ~21-23% haste for energy, this has priority over crit. That's the haste on your stat page after talents/buffs/flask.
• Crit is then your best stat until you approach ~40%, from there random vers or mastery pieces will be similar.
• You have to use Raidbots Top Gear to determine the exact combination of pieces to use.

[mellow dagger]

!up

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1488547832062415010/drop_fixed.png

[slim hare]

eu down?

[indigo token]

worst possible outcome for outlaw: we become a tank spec

[midnight granite]

that moment when untouchable r1

and you wipe

[eternal hound]

I think I just nutted to that

Oh my god give me that

[indigo token]

its all over the screen

[keen belfry]

I think you took all my roles today

[indigo token]

says i cant raid on tuesdays

hey! tuesdays!

[wintry solar]

Tuesdays and Wednesdays are the worst days for me to raid and guess what days my guild raids

[indigo token]

no i mean I have my ff guild that day

i actually cant

[mossy herald]

Have you tried just playing Tuesdays

[eternal hound]

Question

Does anyone use arc ui

Do you know how to important profiles between characters of the same spec

[craggy barn]

it should be automatic

or atleast i thought it was

[elder sonnet]

does the weekly bonus for dropping an extra item in dungeons include m+? silly question i know

[eternal hound]

Well I realm transsfered

And it reset my warr's profile lol

And I can see the old one

But I cannot bring it to them

[craggy barn]

yea idk, im looking at it

and it doesnt seem possibe lol

this profile shit makes no sense