#outlaw

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indigo token
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the problem is that, it was all done in service of shitty addon changes that havent done anything

inland acorn
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But they did

cinder relic
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I think literally every dps in tww had too much "stupid shit" involved in their rotations

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I'm glad they culled a lot of these classes

eternal hound
inland acorn
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Your average CE player is cooked

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Nothing really changed for RWF

lean flax
inland acorn
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Casuals dont care

eternal hound
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But I think they just did it poorly

cinder relic
eternal hound
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Some didnt get pruned enough some got pruned too much

cinder relic
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U can't just stack infinite systems and mechanics on classes forever

eternal hound
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Yeah pruning xpacks always kinda suck

cinder relic
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U eventually need to start over

eternal hound
cinder relic
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Depends on Ur perspective. I think rogue plays great rn

eternal hound
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Yeah I think outlaw plays great

vivid vessel
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@proven ocean

eternal hound
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But like dk and warrior have issues for me

vivid vessel
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what if there is a secret phase

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and boss revive at 0 %

summer nimbus
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only gripe with outlaw rn is how bad defensively it feels

vivid vessel
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and we go for another 3 days rpog

fluid meadow
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20man minigame at 0,01% boss immune

summer nimbus
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pressing feint feels terrible

proven ocean
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i doubt that happens

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100% impossible

eternal hound
lean flax
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ok but like

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we really cant complain about feint

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feint is

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soooooo good

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like

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SO good

vivid vessel
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except when it isnt

eternal hound
vivid vessel
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and then you litteraly does not have a defensive

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so

eternal hound
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But guys

vivid vessel
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  • it cost infinite dps
eternal hound
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Evasion is our main defensive

inland acorn
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Was*

keen belfry
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@vivid vessel do u skip as many slam mobs in algethar

eternal hound
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No some YouTube comment told me it was!

lean flax
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the only problem imo is rogue is lacking a targeted damage reduction

vivid vessel
keen belfry
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the big whirlwind spinner guys

vivid vessel
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3 with 2 caster

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and thats all we do in that area

keen belfry
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if u kill everything u can just do the last 2

summer nimbus
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im not really up to date with rogue tbh when did they remove cdr on evasion

lean flax
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other than cloak we have no way to really mitigate dots, incoming bolts, etc

keen belfry
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but uhave to kill all mobs before this area

summer nimbus
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i feel like they gutted so many of outlaw's defensives

keen belfry
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we r squishy af

eternal hound
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They gutted a lot of defensuves in general

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Expect for warrior for some reason

lean flax
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rogue defensives have been pretty static

inland acorn
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it also doesn't help that we're not stacking vers like crazy

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at least for now, due to needing a lot of haste and crit

lean flax
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it was a law exclusive thing to get cdr on evasion

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and evasion in real content isnt really that useful anyways

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other than like accidentally pulling aggro

inland acorn
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or tank flopping

lean flax
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sure but

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ideal world that shouldn't happen

eternal hound
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Evasion is just 20% dr

lean flax
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ig we get more use out of it now since tanks are so squishy

keen belfry
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cant run cheat

eternal hound
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For a make defensive it feels pretty week

lean flax
keen belfry
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elsuivness

inland acorn
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its if you gimp yourself out of cheat death

eternal hound
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Also the cheat death vs elusiveness feels so dumb

vivid vessel
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which you have to do if you do keyus lol

eternal hound
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Like do you want actual defensives or a cheat death lol

vivid vessel
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exile isnt even playing cheat on the hardest boss of the tier

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because you cant

light dune
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yeah objectively cant play cheat death in hard content

vivid vessel
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because rogue is too squishy

lean flax
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cheat death vs elusiveness is honestly an interesting choice imo

novel isle
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the ultimate defensive, not dying

vivid vessel
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rogue without elus doesnt have any defensive

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its legit

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ok

eternal hound
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Your choice is either have no defensives against anything not aoe or have them

vivid vessel
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am i doing low enough piss content

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that i can afford not running any def

eternal hound
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Thats not a choice

vivid vessel
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ok gg

lean flax
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because its an actual choice

eternal hound
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Oh

inland acorn
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it's really not

eternal hound
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So you can just choose to die

lean flax
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they do different things

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and are useful in different scenarios

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cheat death is better in prog

eternal hound
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Yeah but cheat isnt enough

eternal hound
lean flax
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what

vivid vessel
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unless you have a mechanic that cant be feinted

eternal hound
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Having no defensives for a cheat is not better in prog to get saved sometimes

vivid vessel
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and then you are the squishiest spec in the game

eternal hound
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Being even squisher dosent help prog

lean flax
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what

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feint is still a defensives

eternal hound
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Hey bro

lean flax
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and covers nearly every raid mechanic

eternal hound
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Is there rot damage

lean flax
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okay but

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you do realize

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almost all rot damage

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is covered by feint

eternal hound
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....

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Rot damage is aoe damage?

lean flax
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most of it

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yes

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most rot damage is the boss radiating damage

eternal hound
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Okay leeme point something out

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Viceroy and bosses like it

cinder relic
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Feint works on a majority of raid encounters

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Like a massive majority

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In dungeons it's more hit or miss tho

lean flax
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thank you jesus

eternal hound
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Well im not really a raider anymore

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So I dont have that pov

vivid vessel
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in raid it does work on most

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till it doesnt

eternal hound
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I just see the hit and miss

vivid vessel
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and you are the only spec in the game without defensive

lean flax
vivid vessel
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and in m+

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what

eternal hound
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Die and dstance are universally useful

lean flax
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you either die or you live

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is my point

vivid vessel
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and in m+ feint doesnt work on more than half the things that does damage

eternal hound
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They apply to all damage

vivid vessel
eternal hound
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Feint does not

vivid vessel
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am i talking to a bot or what

eternal hound
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Evasion does....well yeah it does

cinder relic
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I mean look at dimensius for example, that fight was 9/11 for a majority of classes, except like, rogue

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And warrior, and warlock

lean flax
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i just

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cant believe we're complaining about feint

cinder relic
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And then u have fights like saladar where rogue struggles with the dots in p1

lean flax
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its probably the strongest defensive in the game

vivid vessel
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enter a key

cinder relic
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It's just a tradeoff

vivid vessel
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and tell me

inland acorn
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Well in MFO pressing feint +5 times in a fight

vivid vessel
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rogue

lean flax
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when you consider its short cooldown

vivid vessel
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is strong

inland acorn
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Didnt make me run out of gas

vivid vessel
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defensively

inland acorn
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In record time

summer nimbus
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compared to before atleast we are paper

vivid vessel
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just enter a key bro

cinder relic
summer nimbus
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i wish we got float like a butterfly back

lean flax
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if you're dying in keys its probably your fault like

vivid vessel
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:D

lean flax
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you have vanish and evasion and cloak

vivid vessel
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you do 10s bro

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you have no clue

lean flax
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for targeted shit

soft abyss
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vanish ? for what

vivid vessel
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you have legit no clue

lean flax
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lmao

soft abyss
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but this isn't the problem

vivid vessel
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lmao

soft abyss
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rot dmg is

vivid vessel
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its fine bro

lean flax
vivid vessel
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never did more than a 10

soft abyss
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in keys not exactly

summer nimbus
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i feel like every dungeon there are mobs that give u fat dots

soft abyss
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yes feint is strong but you have by far the smallest hp bar

eternal hound
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Viceroy

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Lmao

lean flax
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good job

lean flax
vivid vessel
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enter a key and stop yapping

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ye i know you arent

lean flax
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but i do more then 10s lol

vivid vessel
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you havent done higher than a 1 0

lean flax
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lol okay

vivid vessel
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you are clueless

lean flax
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you can have opinions

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but calling feint bad is actual insanity

vivid vessel
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you are just wrong

fluid meadow
vivid vessel
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feint doesnt work on more than half the shit that does damage in keys

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if you are running keys with cheat you are doing 10s

gaunt granite
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Zac is tomelvis, but you, who are you ? @lean flax what's your experience overall to take thoses hot takes ?

vivid vessel
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and elusiveness does nothing

cinder relic
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Can we chill

summer nimbus
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frankly i dont believe this zac guy has done a key above 10. I think we need to get tomelvis in here and hear his opinion

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel i think liquid 100% wins this

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echo seems cooked

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lol or?

eternal hound
inland acorn
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I think we need Zeross opinion

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He is always right

paper rivet
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I mean sure Rogue isn't tanky like it used to be but let's not act like feint is a shit button lol but if it covered everything it would be broken af

eternal hound
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Idk maybe they pull a fyrakk

proven ocean
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@cinder relic

eternal hound
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Mods ban him

proven ocean
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@gloomy coral ok guy is afk

gloomy coral
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!ban @reef ruin

proven ocean
inland acorn
proven ocean
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why is my salute a robot

eternal hound
proven ocean
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tf

fossil jay
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so are we considering the class tunning coming a nerf or a buff

vivid vessel
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nothing changes

eternal hound
vivid vessel
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if you consider a 1% buff a buff then feel free to consider it a buff

proven ocean
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u must be a rly new rogue

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to be convinced feint is op

fossil jay
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that 1 % is gonna be life changing for me

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel

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im disappointed these dont spawn orbs on mythic

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@vivid vessel liquid rly good pull atm

tropic zephyr
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dedge

balmy topaz
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Wait did I just miss mr beast?

copper radish
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Just blizz boss warnings that’s it

summer nimbus
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i feel like the addon purge did not really accomplish its goal lol

proven ocean
copper radish
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Let’s just make more addons and workarounds 😂

cinder relic
proven ocean
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osrs isn't as hard as wow is tho

vivid vessel
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nothing they are using are things that got rolled back tho

novel isle
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So, im doing pretty good on multi target pulls now... but im losing massively on ST...

(NPX right side boss)

proven ocean
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i dont think its there just yet

summer nimbus
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if anything didnt it just widen the gap between guilds with top addon creators and those without

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel i like that the boss is purely mechanical

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means whoever wins is the better guild

vivid vessel
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what does this mean

proven ocean
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lots of coordination going on

vivid vessel
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as opposed to what

proven ocean
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^

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like i dont think the fight is skill based more than it is a coordination based fight

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i dont remember the last time we got this

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fyrakk i guess

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halondrus

summer nimbus
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my ui died for this

inland acorn
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Though you could make argument that by the time you get to this, it will be nerfed 5 times and addons/wa will be up for grab

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Still sucks though

left jay
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yk what i've been very positive and optimistic but you guys are right outlaw has an issue

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ever since i got 4 set i've been getting really high ranking logs on every boss but i still got benched for salad

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lmao

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i guess my damage isn't as valuable as it may appear in the meters

vivid vessel
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outlaw is quite good on saladar

left jay
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i think they might have just switched me out for a bit to let someone experience it and then bring me back next week

vivid vessel
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outlaw boss imo CAUGHT

cinder relic
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A fair amount of the bosses this raid, are outlaw bosses

left jay
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i mean all three rogue specs are so bad rn that if you play really good on outlaw the difference isn't too noticeable

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i really don't feel weak

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but ppl in here make me think i should

cinder relic
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Rogue is just kinda mid

left jay
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at least we are super fun tho

cinder relic
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But only really mid on the like! Back half of this raid

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The 2nd raid I think rogue is like, perfectly fine

cinder relic
meager lichen
glass mortar
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man the constellation aoe dodges in the last phase are cool af looking

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel

vivid vessel
proven ocean
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no way they had a 3%

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wtf

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what a crazy jump

copper radish
vivid vessel
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i think you kinda underestimate

jolly geyser
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vivid vessel
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how relevant % are

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rn

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the last phase is kinda just

jolly geyser
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oh that broke it

vivid vessel
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if you do it right and have the dps

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you just kill

proven ocean
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rly?

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so like

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echo can suddenly kill it

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or

vivid vessel
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yes i dont think we will have long prog

copper radish
vivid vessel
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i think any guild can kill it

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they arent even following the an addon in p3

glass mortar
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p3s are easier

vivid vessel
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yes

glass mortar
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instead of a beam order u hit each other in order right

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ye

vivid vessel
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you need to remoember order only

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and then yes

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its just colliding 2 of the same symbol in orders

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they actually do have a weak aura now to remember it

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but max was calling it

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earlier

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without addon

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its not that hard in p3

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but i mean at ths point its not even an addon

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could write it in chat

jolly geyser
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aww I got timedout for 1 day for ascii in max chat

proven ocean
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liquid copy pasta

thorny mural
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whats the embellishment for sindorei band

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iris focus thing?

waxen scarab
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Is sub better than us at dragons boss?

deft mason
vivid vessel
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its better at doing add damage

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we are better at boss damage

vivid vessel
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thats boss damage

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our raid melees dont swap to orb

deft mason
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range that does their job 🤯

vivid vessel
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i mean it make sense that outlaw isnt bad on the boss tho no ?

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sin and sub have to delay cds

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tho i say that i dont think sub loses any uses i guess

deft mason
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yea i guess, its only gonna get worse tho with shorter kill time

vivid vessel
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maybe

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with reclear kill timer sub doesnt get the last blade in amp anymore so idk

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there is also that

craggy barn
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saladbar?

vivid vessel
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salmabar

craggy barn
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idk when my rog will see mythic prog sadge

vivid vessel
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@proven ocean liquid > echo lol ?

proven ocean
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LOL ECHO SO WASHED LIQUID 3% LOL

craggy barn
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echo has been fumblin since dinner

proven ocean
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they shouldn't have eaten for 10 ppl each

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honestly if i were to be echo and it was a full send night a light dinner is best

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thats what i used to do to stay locked in for r1 M+ runs

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post food makes u sluggy as cow

craggy barn
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just a little snackie to keep u goin

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel liquid clean p3 so far

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might be kill

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super clean

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omgomg or?

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kill lol or?

jolly geyser
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Liquid gonna kill this

unique fulcrum
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its an outlaw fight :^)

frail veldt
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seems like anyones race rn

noble moon
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!tricks

ornate heathBOT
tight kernel
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To echo stream

frail veldt
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yeah theyre on a good one

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is the constellation just a "dodge" mechanic or is there something specific they have to do

vivid vessel
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dodge

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but they have to soak at the same time

frail veldt
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yeah

vivid vessel
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and do the minigame also

frail veldt
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and you dont know where the lines will be

vivid vessel
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thats the difficuly

frail veldt
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exactly

vivid vessel
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echo killed

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gg

craggy barn
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gg

vivid vessel
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wtf liquid also killing gg

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@proven ocean

craggy barn
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gg

vivid vessel
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liquid > echo lol?

craggy barn
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methodgg

tight kernel
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Liquid has 1 dead no bres

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not the pull

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I feel like dying pre p2 is cursed

vivid vessel
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guys swap to method stream they are killing

tight kernel
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!! bait

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bro metho doesnt even have a full 20

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new tech

vivid vessel
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they dont need 20 guys to kill the boss bro ICANT

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its method

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method > liquid > echo

tight kernel
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ah true

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I forgot we are back in 2012 era

jolly geyser
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2012 is paragon

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no

molten nacelle
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method only with 19, so they can summon kungen in p3 to one shot

frigid pelican
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so is it just me or loot still bugged ? i keep getting the ring in pit of saron

craggy barn
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it might still be bugged shrug, saw a post today about someone getting the same neck on a fresh char

wise helm
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So when can we riot and close the discord and hope on proper buffs?

frigid pelican
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guess im givin up on the dagger from pit and just crafting

proven ocean
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@vivid vessel i think if blizzard makes rwf an official race then adds a timer after liquid kills it depending on downtime of eu compared to NA

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twitter will get 200% more downloads

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and rwf will get 100% more attention

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thoughts?

vivid vessel
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xd

proven ocean
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LIQUID KILLING IT @vivid vessel

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!!

craggy barn
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why dont liquid just make it global release wtf

proven ocean
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they wont take a disadvantage lol

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especially when money is involved

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YO LIQUID?

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ACTUAL KILL

vivid vessel
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BRO

proven ocean
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1.9% wipe

craggy barn
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holy

proven ocean
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ECHO TIME

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ECHO PUMPING IT

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OMGOMG ?

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@vivid vessel ECHO HAS ENOUGH DPS

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THEY ARE WAY AHEAD

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they just have to live

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nothing else

timid idol
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im watching

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but i dont have hope

proven ocean
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HOLY SHIT

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NO WAY

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3.9% wipe

timid idol
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i saw

vivid vessel
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wtf !

tired rune
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bro they werent even close

timid idol
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now they lose the race

vivid vessel
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ye the issue is

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they have to sleep

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liquid is just

timid idol
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yep

proven ocean
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ye

vivid vessel
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waking up

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so idk

proven ocean
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liquid is full energy

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atm

timid idol
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no its over lol

vivid vessel
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they wont go sleep but

timid idol
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its guaranteed liquid win

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they're way too tired

proven ocean
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its literally same issue as dimensius

vivid vessel
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i mean idk about guaranteed liqui win

proven ocean
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too close while echo wants to sleep

rocky canopy
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THIS IS HYPE

timid idol
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if they were all 17yr olds they wouldnt need sleep 😔

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game for boomers 😔

proven ocean
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they've been at it for 13 hrs

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non stop

tired rune
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brain starts failing after a while

timid idol
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😔

proven ocean
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its not rly age

timid idol
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can the boss just bug and fall thru the map

rocky canopy
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uh i mean when you have a 4% wipe on a boss i imagine you get a shit ton of adenaline/hype that kinda wakes you up no? i mean theyre definitely at a disadvantage cuz theyve been raiding 13 hours

copper radish
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1.9% 😭

proven ocean
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i can game for 16~ hrs non stop idk did it for months in season 2

timid idol
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anyone remember that one method (? or some other guild) jailer kill when the boss literally just fell thru the map

rocky canopy
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but i imagine theyre kinda more alrt now than theyve probably been for the past several hours

proven ocean
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and im like 25

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dont have to be 17

timid idol
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not unc yet FeelsStrongMan

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but yea im mostly trolling

proven ocean
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only thing that prevents me from doing it atm is just my job

timid idol
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this only becomes an issue at around 40

proven ocean
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it is what it is

timid idol
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a 30 something yr old can still do this

timid idol
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despair i miss hs era

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despair or even covid era

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despair 0 responsabilities wake up open discord all irl friends online play wow or league all day

proven ocean
#

Bring it back ty

#

In a safe way ofc

dim parrot
#

Zac you should upload your twitch keys with your playlist in background

#

Much hype

vivid vessel
#

i cant do that

#

i cant have music on youtube

#

it get automatically dmcaed

dim parrot
#

Ah gey

#

Started ele this season for quick io boys but gonna hop back outlaw

#

Everything else too boring

mystic berry
#

echo have a rogue?

timid idol
#

both guilds do

mystic berry
#

liquid have one? I didnt see it yesterday

#

Will have to check

river maple
#

does outlaw need exactly 25% haste?

dim parrot
#

Wish dwarf wasn’t so fugly

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel ECHO

#

THEY ARE 2% ahead

#

???

#

RCHOIO

#

EFUIIO

timid idol
#

sub 1% i think

#

lol

proven ocean
#

EXHOIOO

timid idol
#

unlucky

proven ocean
#

WHAT

#

SUB 1%

meager lichen
#

0.5

proven ocean
#

NO WAY

timid idol
#

im telling u

#

they're losing this

proven ocean
#

Liquid stream pretending nothijg is going on

#

While everyone is spamming 0.5%

vivid vessel
#

echo > liquid lol?

proven ocean
#

LOL LIQUID SO WASHED ECHO 0.45% lol or?

gaunt phoenix
#

LOL LIQUID SO WASHED ECHO 0.45% lol or?

eternal hound
#

Just kill it so we can get back on with the rest of the season

mystic berry
#

echo will choke

#

again

#

watch liquid killing it post break

timid idol
#

i dont belive it until it happens

hollow temple
#

Damn .45% is grazy

timid idol
#

i want echo to win but they've been straight ass for like idk how many tiers

proven ocean
#

LIQUID LIQUID

#

!!!

#

Nvm

hollow temple
#

After 13+ hours too

proven ocean
hollow temple
timid idol
#

what is the last tier echo won

proven ocean
#

Both times they’re past bed time

timid idol
#

was it pre tww?

proven ocean
#

Tww

eternal hound
#

Didn't liquid sweep TWW

proven ocean
#

Ya

#

They did

vivid vessel
#

@fathom bramble

crimson scarab
#

Liquid has 4 on a row currently

proven ocean
#

Echo last win was fyrakk

vivid vessel
#

its not looking good

#

im last

#

at 6min

#

like

#

way last

proven ocean
timid idol
#

4?

fathom bramble
proven ocean
#

3

timid idol
#

hasnt there been 3 raids since amidrasil?

#

besides this one?

vivid vessel
#

at least augs are under me ..

crimson scarab
#

I clicked the wrong number mb🤣

timid idol
#

MegaLUL its ok

proven ocean
#

Liquid fanboy deluxe

timid idol
#

i miss undermine

proven ocean
#

Rounds achievement by 1

crimson scarab
#

Echo FTW

timid idol
#

most unique patch + content + tier + anything ever

#

im insanely bored of world ending threat number 239048230948

proven ocean
#

I like liquid winning cuz of gingi’s tweets

#

But

#

I also like echo winning cuz max’s face changes 180 degree’s and doesnt stream for a month

#

Peak drama content

indigo token
timid idol
#

i wish we got tinker class sadge

#

would acc have a reason to play goblin/gnome

copper radish
timid idol
#

and would be the first tank i would give a genuine chance if i could play as a goblin shredder or something like that

#

oh well last titan final chance at tinker class ig

#

surely it's a new class xpac, biggest wow finale

#

has to be on par with legion or failed saga imo

mystic berry
#

On one hand I agree

#

on the other balance is a mess

#

and adding new shit wont help

#

they cant even find a dev for rogue

timid idol
#

true

#

ill settle for legendaries for every spec and some sorta equivalent of class halls

#

even if its less zones and they group some classes/races together thats fine too

#

would be cool to see class halls for specific groups

#

like i can see rogues allying with hunters and ummmm

#

mayb monks idk actually who would he the 3rd

vivid vessel
#

@fathom bramble even when im kinda blasting i just end up last

#

the fight is too long

#

no energy

#

bl;bizzard ruined this spec

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel 65% instead of 67% on their 0.4 wipe

#

KILL OR???

#

Echo

#

Now

timid idol
#

i dont think this is it either

proven ocean
timid idol
#

seems like lower dps?

#

unless im going mad

#

prev attempt boss was lower here i think

proven ocean
#

No

#

Same

timid idol
proven ocean
#

Atm its same but narcolies died at end before

#

So

#

Ahead if all alive

timid idol
#

rtp

#

rip

#

2 dead

proven ocean
#

?

#

Ye now rip

timid portal
#

with outlaw they kill

timid idol
#

themselves

vivid vessel
#

@fathom bramble im actually so sad xd

#

spec does nothign

timid idol
#

protest on stream

proven ocean
timid idol
#

surely blizz will listen

proven ocean
#

Its fine for the spec

#

To be bad forever

timid idol
#

i will ask this again

proven ocean
#

Balancing shouldn’t exist..

timid idol
#

was there ANY TIME in history

#

when our mastery wasnt dead last in prio

#

:D

#

only spec btw

#

ive never seen any other spec have mastery last forever since its creation

#

:D

#

meanwhile devourer gets released with that mastery

#

:D

fathom bramble
#

And 4/5ths of a mediocre dps spec

timid idol
#

are we worse than feral

#

i havent checked wowlogs recently

#

:)))))))))))))))))))))))))

proven ocean
#

@vivid vessel 55%

#

way ahead

#

They will kill this if they live

#

Gingnoob dies

#

Fk

#

Still fine

#

Echo echo ! Cheergi

timid idol
#

im seated

#

im watching

#

im pausing

vivid vessel
#

maybe i shoudl ahev played assa

proven ocean
#

Max watching it die on break will be cinema

vivid vessel
#

what a dogshit spec

timid idol
#

PauseChamp hold

vivid vessel
#

blizzard litteraly troleld so hard this tier

#

im so mad

proven ocean
#

Aaaa

brisk meadow
#

Mages trolling in every guild

proven ocean
#

Can someone kill it so i go sleep

#

Ty

brisk meadow
#

i see

true jackal
#

can we become less gamba

#

im tweakin

fathom bramble
proven ocean
brisk meadow
#

gingi

#

just walked into beam

proven ocean
#

Why u say every guild

brisk meadow
#

firedup fucked up like 3 pulls ago

proven ocean
#

Ah

#

Nice

#

Maybe they consider hopeful to be the main mage next tier

#

Echo Casters: we wont not be here when they pull it - 2026

brisk meadow
#

liquid feasting for the buff

proven ocean
#

Is there something special about them this tier or

brisk meadow
#

they're on lunch break

#

thats what i meant

hollow temple
#

1st pull after lunch boss dies

proven ocean
#

Ah

#

ECHO

#

@vivid vessel

red zinc
#

hell nawl

timid idol
#

unlucky

proven ocean
#

That was so unlucky

red zinc
#

was echos 0.5% pull enrage with everyone alive

#

didnt see it

proven ocean
#

No

#

Narcolies died last phase for a decent time

#

Very important devotion aura+dps and maybe offhealing

#

YO

#

LIQUID IS AT GIGA KILL %

#

???

#

GO LIQUID GO

eternal hound
#

Someone please end the race

brisk meadow
#

nope

#

2 dead

mystic berry
#

stop rooting for liquid, you are EU

craggy barn
#

if u always root for whoever is winning at the moment, then u will never lose

eternal hound
#

Root for noone just hope it ends

proven ocean
#

Man

eternal hound
proven ocean
#

I want echo to kill it like

#

Same pull as liquid

#

But echo kills it 20 seconds before

dim parrot
#

Can we put thunder fury mogged to the hip in .5 patch

proven ocean
#

It’ll be peak content

#

I dont think anything in the world can be more entertaining

fathom bramble
proven ocean
#

Pure happiness into giga loss

fathom bramble
#

just the race ending is good enough

proven ocean
#

All under one minute

dim parrot
#

Zeross brother

#

That’s kinda grim

proven ocean
#

True

#

Its abit microwaved

fathom bramble
#

would be cool to see 2 kills that close

#

no matter which one wins

proven ocean
#

If it happens it’ll be a dealbreaker for the losing team

#

Some might quit

#

aliquid

#

KILLING

#

AAAAA

#

2%

hollow temple
crimson scarab
#

Midnight falls as midnight falls

hollow temple
#

Idk why anyone would want to do that

#

But yep

broken tangle
#

i think some weapon might still be hardcoded so might need to check it out in the ptr

dim parrot
#

SL blades cloak kinda dank that’s why

hollow temple
red zinc
#

boss no die

hollow temple
#

Canonically the boss cannot die until midnight in your time zone

jolly geyser
#

damn I got m+ loot

hollow temple
red zinc
#

i mean echo is in germany i imagine soo

hollow temple
#

Didn’t know where you were kekdog

red zinc
#

well i aint german but same timezone

#

imagine being german

hollow temple
#

Ya

#

Damn echo might win this time because of time zone head start ??

proven ocean
red zinc
#

w arab

#

w every ethnicity

proven ocean
#

Based

#

L mosquitoes tho i got like 3 bites on my right foot on 2 on my left one

red zinc
#

mosquito my favorite ethnicity

proven ocean
#

Idk why they’re into my feet

#

Kinda annoying ngl

red zinc
proven ocean
#

Bad boss %

#

P3 echo

red zinc
#

liquid % lookin kinda nasty

#

if nobody dies they killin it

proven ocean
#

BRO LIQUID IS SO AHEAD

#

IN %

#

WTF

red zinc
#

uh oh

proven ocean
#

THATS 100% a kill

#

@vivid vessel

red zinc
#

ross your stream is so behind you keep pinging that man when 2 people are dead already

proven ocean
#

Dps dead

#

Oh

#

Ye cuz phone

glass mortar
#

holy fuk that was a hard match they got right before the wipe

#

cant believe it wasnt what wiped them

proven ocean
#

Kk bed time gonna wake up to seeing who wins

glass mortar
#

literally zero space for those first 2 matches

proven ocean
#

Guys

indigo token
proven ocean
#

Ur gonna wait for them to kill it

#

Im gonna do a time skip

vivid vessel
red zinc
#

im time skippin to when zeross gets a job

#

my life lowkey speeding past

craggy kelp
#

old ross would slam redbulls and watch the kill

proven ocean
red zinc
#

he changed weirdge

proven ocean
#

Work

red zinc
#

if my guild had to raid for 17 hours on one day we wouldnt even be able to kill normal sprocketmonger

blissful idol
#

@proven ocean log in i need help

gaunt phoenix
red zinc
#

i dont fuck with native antarcticans

#

hate those bitches

jolly geyser
#

got neck and healer couldnt trade finger to me, would have been giga run

tight kernel
#

0 chance EU goes to bed right

brisk meadow
#

gotta work overtime sometimes

tropic zephyr
#

Then liquid back to back to back'd them

red zinc
#

luh quid got 2 cr's and everyone alive

#

surely

hollow temple
#

Echo had to take a break to pop the addies

tight kernel
#

alert1 alert1 alert1 alert1 LIQUID STREAM

red zinc
#

uh oh

#

theres another PHASE

#

HAHHAH

vivid vessel
#

@proven ocean

#

LOGIN BRO

#

P4

glass mortar
#

LAMOO

vivid vessel
cinder relic
#

LOLOLOL

vivid vessel
cinder relic
#

HAHAHAHAHAH

vivid vessel
hollow temple
#

?????

tight kernel
#

SECRET PHASE

vivid vessel
tight kernel
#

SECRET PHASE

vivid vessel
hollow temple
#

LOOOOL

tight kernel
#

SECRET PHASE

vivid vessel
hollow temple
#

NO WAYYYYY

tight kernel
#

LOOOOL

#

OMG

eternal hound
#

WOW

#

IS BLIZZ SERIOUS RN?

hollow temple
#

Why did they go dark that was so hypeeee

glass mortar
#

surely its a victory lap secret phase

#

but holy fuk

red zinc
#

dawg im watching echo stream and the casters still havent noticed

eternal hound
cinder relic
thorny mural
#

no shot man

#

echo night night

vivid vessel
#

banger race bro

#

worse race

#

into best race

#

holy shmoly !

thorny mural
#

this is peak

eternal hound
#

Holy shit this actually goes crazy

vivid vessel
#

blizzard cooked this tier

#

(only last boss but htey cooked)

#

worse tier into best boss ever

#

gg

cinder relic
#

Bird is a cool boss too idk

#

Alleria is also cool just a bit too easy

fathom bramble
#

bird would be cooler if they didn't try to retune it into a penultimate boss for rwf

hollow temple
fathom bramble
#

I'm sure they will fix it later though

#

whenever this race actually ends

red zinc
#

is a parody on the nba journalist

#

100% satire haha

hollow temple
#

Yeah

#

I saw it from a different troll acc

#

Like days ago

red zinc
#

he really just heals up back to 1 billion

#

but i think you get a nasty damage buff

hollow temple
#

Surely that isn’t real tho

red zinc
#

so probably fake

cinder relic
#

It's just funny as fuck

red zinc
#

yeah they did like 3% boss hp with a few dps in a few seconds

glass mortar
#

oh man

red zinc
#

probably 300%+ boost

hollow temple
cinder relic
#

Cuz ppl said sanctum was too easy and then all of sepulcur was evil af

glass mortar
#

the meta gaming rn

#

do u gamble that its a real phase and go to bed

#

what if its just avictory lap "get here with raid alive and gg"

cinder relic
quiet ore
# cinder relic

122k DPS per player? Phase can't be more than a few seconds long then, yeah?

glass mortar
#

well if u look at the hp bars

latent oak
#

there was an extra action button aswell

glass mortar
#

the people in ther yellow circle were taking way less then that

#

like 10% hp bar/tick

#

so the circle probably protects them

red zinc
#

yellow circle probably turns you into thanos

fathom bramble
#

yeah yellow circle must reduce it by some %

glass mortar
#

and they need to dodge the gauntlet together

fathom bramble
#

and then there is probably a mechanic later that forces them to use up their crystal or die

glass mortar
#

and if u go outside the circle u die hella fast sheesh

fathom bramble
#

that serves as one last enrage

glass mortar
#

if its just that, dodge the waves and stay stacked in the bubble and burn

fluid meadow
#

but there is a mechanic too

glass mortar
#

LOL

red zinc
#

oh brother

glass mortar
#

oh god it looks like a real phase

quiet ore
#

Spicy spreads inside a stack

red zinc
#

all 20 people get stars one last time

glass mortar
#

altho theres probably supposed to be another safe circle or two

red zinc
#

le epic troll

glass mortar
#

so only 1 aoe per circle

brisk meadow
quiet ore
#

Dodge summons, lines, stay in EAB bubbles, eck

gaunt phoenix
indigo token
#

oh my fucking god bruh 💔

cinder relic
#

Actual cinema

tight kernel
#

bro a jailer style phase where just a bunch of recycled mechs and need to live and burn boss

#

like last sprint kind of vibe

cinder relic
#

Probably

#

Still insane

latent oak
#

the extra action button

#

text

#

i assume it kills u but saves the raid?

glass mortar
#

maybe it clears the thingies

#

18s cd hmm

quiet ore
latent oak
#

bro they have to get back there to even see what it does LMAO

glass mortar
#

man the pressure on max to go dark rns gotta be so real...

red zinc
#

what was the last thing

#

like a big red line

glass mortar
#

you dont wanna show echo if its a real phase or not before they commit to bed

#

but the content

latent oak
#

cracked reaction from exile to think about hovering it in the moment tbh

quiet ore
#

So, with secret phase existing, if it's more than like 45s long this becomes a two-lust fight, yeah

red zinc
#

"Heaven & Hell" so tuff

quiet ore
#

Which fucks with everything

latent oak
#

boss takes double dam in p3 so might still not be worth depending

timid idol
#

lol wat

#

theres phase 4

#

both guilds basically die at p3

#

this is not doable this reset

red zinc
#

and maybe they themselves then die?

#

no clue

timid idol
#

like both guilds were betting on killing it at the same time as running out of space

#

its impossible for them to beat a p4 this reset

vivid vessel
#

no lol

#

at the end in p4

#

its different

#

theydont die

#

if they reach 0%

timid idol
#

ye but they always have so far

latent oak
#

but until that pull they also had never gotten to 0

red zinc
#

think he means they die since they cant kill it before the damage drops in p3 zac

#

but they had a death that pull too so

cinder relic
#

Ppl were saying beloren wasn't killable this reset

cinder relic
#

They can find dmg

red zinc
#

100% clean and they can get there before

fluid meadow
#

14-15% into last area is doable

#

and killable

timid idol
#

does it actually take double dmg p4

indigo token
novel isle
#

and evedyone thought it was over

quiet ore
vivid vessel
timid idol
#

tbf it also depends on what it does in p4 lol

vivid vessel
#

the people that didnt die at that point

glass mortar
#

can they kill it before the soft enrage tho

#

they r like 2% off every pull

#

and only immunities live that

vivid vessel
#

yes they can lol

glass mortar
#

ye i guess theyve had a death every pull in p3

vivid vessel
#

the pull liquid went there

glass mortar
#

if everyone lives they can probably make it

vivid vessel
#

they had mage aracne press all cds into die

#

and yargi died

latent oak
#

arcane does giga damage there aswell right, since they are doubledipping both bosses

light kernel
#

exile survived whole fight as rogue, i think feint is op

#

nerf feint

timid idol
#

regardless

#

if its an actual phase with multiple mechanics its not dying tonight

#

if its hit boss with all alive it might die

#

gingi LMAOOOOO