My friend also had this problem
#outlaw
tulip walrus
vapid sundial
!tricks
ornate heathBOT
vivid vessel
what about a third supercharged
im playing x2 crit bte
so it did 16k
and im canceling bte buff everytime
dense coral
How is outlaw simming so high? Is it real?
vivid vessel
its not simming particularly high
seems kinda just the same as every season
we are simming in the top 5
as every season
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
gaunt phoenix
because solo is so good at writing code
gaunt phoenix
yeah they found some bug missing 6% dps
mighty pivot
DS sub 45,6% evis 
vivid vessel
me when sub isnt the best spec in the game 
ye whatever its so over
if we are simming bellow sub even 
i dont wanna imagine
whats gonna happen
when we pull up to bosses
solar iron
w
keen belfry
we are simming in the top 5
We are top 5 sim?
cinder relic
if we are simming bellow sub even <:omegalul:585734084777476096>
So the 2nd last boss of the raid is 3 target cleave
and subs 3 target is not good
vivid vessel
So the 2nd last boss of the raid is 3 target cleave
well how does that work
in term of
difficulty
i kinda missed that
like which riad is the actual end boss
solar iron
march final boss drops a mount so i assume that
mighty pivot
the one that unlocks last
vivid vessel
and what about this guy
is he suppoed to be 2nd to last boss
or a random guy
if midnight falls is supposed to be end boss
craggy barn
you are fighting a mount
solar iron
think voidspire final boss is supposed to be harder than belo'ren
keen belfry
good outlaw tier maybe
I can’t imagine simming this “low” and having our “favorable” flat dmg profile and being good
vivid vessel
beloren drops 2nd to last boss loot still tho
keen belfry
But I’m just speculating!
solar iron
it drops same as 4th/5th boss of voidspire
craggy barn
shocked
solar iron
ye 4th boss of voidspire also is 279
keen belfry
Maybe this is a goated flat dmg profile tier
solar iron
think the solo raid is also 279
vivid vessel
no its 276
solar iron
o no 276
keen belfry
Maybe the bosses have dmg reduction phases that you have to send CDs in
solar iron
cant wait to get gaze week 10
keen belfry
Goated flat dmg tier
cinder relic
is he suppoed to be 2nd to last boss
Talking about the raid thats coming out first
keen belfry
Just craft a sword lil bro
keen belfry
What’s midnight
vivid vessel
last boss of the 2 raid boss
solar iron
i just go to the boss my raid lead tells me to go to
keen belfry
Yeah well sybau Zac
vivid vessel
and we will have to fly 3 times
keen belfry
Thoughts?
keen belfry
Just get tp’d
vivid vessel
ye someone has to fly there first noob
cinder relic
Well for 1, we get a TP
For 2, they said they want to add raid tiers in .5 patches as well
vivid vessel
I mean im just gonna say i dont see the point
cinder relic
Like were getting a haranir 1? or 2 boss raid in the .5 patch
keen belfry
Banger raids
vivid vessel
they all relase roughly at the same time
i dont see why they cant be in one raid
for less confusion
keen belfry
I mean im just gonna say i dont see the point
Lore stuff is what they said
vivid vessel
ye i know
long barn
riddle me this fam. How did sub catch a buff and we did not. are we uber chad?
vivid vessel
lore ruining my game again
keen belfry
They said it makes sense to go diff places
cinder relic
riddle me this fam. How did sub catch a buff and we did not. are we uber chad?
Sub got a readjustments, like a lot of classes got, ST buff, AOE nerf
rotund sigil
cant mess up mythic race with weekly tuning ifyou just make them wait 2 weeks for hard bosses
cinder relic
Subs ST was really ass, but its aoe was probably too good
solar iron
Like were getting a haranir 1? or 2 boss raid in the .5 patch
1 boss raid in 12.0.7
long barn
lol
cinder relic
Yes
vivid vessel
on paper it was 5% under us
nvm it was actually the exact same
as us
it was just under simming
now its 5% ahead
so was it really ass
cinder relic
I feel like ur missing what this raid is asking
long barn
loll
vivid vessel
bro you are going to tell me that this raid is going to not require cds again
or what
cinder relic
Sub isn't what it used to be
mighty pivot
precise cuts 
cinder relic
Sub isn't going to be good on that fight
FUll stop
the 2nd hardest encounter of the raid, is going to be bad for sub
vivid vessel
ok but in theory its this boss
which i guess is fine
i mean i hope we get to play one boss as outlaw
sure
but you are coming here telling me its gonna be different this time
mighty pivot
now its 5% ahead
where do you see it 5% ahead, it sims like 2% ahead
cinder relic
where do you see it 5% ahead, it sims like 2% ahead
Deathstalker sims
vivid vessel
where do you see it 5% ahead, it sims like 2% ahead
ye 2%
cinder relic
but you are coming here telling me its gonna be different this time
Zac All I'm telling you is the 2nd last boss of the raid is going to be bad for sub
IF you want to pretend I'm saying anything more than that, go ahead
mighty pivot
yes DS sims 2% ahead
vivid vessel
i kinda just whipped out number while looking not straight at computer
mighty pivot
and trickster is equal
cinder relic
I'm telling you that that boss, is bad for sub
cinder relic
Ur gonna play sin or outlaw on that fight
vivid vessel
and it got buffed
vivid vessel
Ur gonna play sin or outlaw on that fight
well ok
one boss in the raid we maybe play outlaw
(or sin kekw)
all im saying is
i see sub simming higher than outlaw
and historically
cinder relic
U are insufferable
vivid vessel
this isnt good news
why am i
am i saying anything wrong
when sub sims 10% behind outlaw its still better than outlaw cause fight design
mighty pivot
couldn't you guys fight a bit earlier, I need to go to bed now
rotund sigil
sub is no longer insane burst with CDs it can move around at will though
vernal star
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
rotund sigil
sin probably the scarier darkhorse
cinder relic
For years I would say "Outlaw is good on x y z fight"
You would say "Wow the easy fights who cares, its bad on the hard fights"
Now Outlaw is going to be probably the spec to play on a fight, the 2nd last boss of the raid, now its "wow you play outlaw on 1 fight wow"
Like
Pick a complaint
vivid vessel
For years I would say "Outlaw is good on x y z fight"
You would say "Wow the ea...
but you say its 2nd to last boss
while in term of difficulty it can also be
middle
of raid
like this
cinder relic
vivid vessel
we dont know yet tho
hallow peak
well in the past, the words "raid" and "tier" have been synonyms man
cinder relic
Sub also doesnt really have CD flexability anymore
Like U can ofc delay dance, but this fucks your ST, a lot
solar iron
the part i enjoyed most about sub 😭
cinder relic
Sub has a lot more fundamental weaknesses than it used to have
vivid vessel
i mean thats not what was the biggest benefit of sub tho
it was also quite good to send blades on damage amps :D
vivid vessel
Sub has a lot more fundamental weaknesses than it used to have
sure
long barn
this
vivid vessel
we will see
cinder relic
Stop looking at sims plz
WE are both smarter players than to be looking at a single target patchwork sim to be evaluating the game
vivid vessel
Stop looking at sims plz
i have nothing else to look at, and when a flatline spec is under a burst spec i know what it means, and i know what it has meant historically
long barn
fine no sims. but target dummies kinda showing the same. and its not gameplay.. Sssub is like 2 buttons now with the macros
vivid vessel
idk why you act like its irrelevant
i agree tho i wont look at sims to compare sub and dk
long barn
lol
vivid vessel
but i think to compare 2 specs on opposite spectrum
radiant wyvern
why you mad at sub thats your cousin, get mad at blizz for not making law better
cinder relic
!ban @verbal rover
cinder relic
Well, all those accounts ARE people who fell for it 
vivid vessel
true
lime lake
vivid vessel
There is indeed a bug
its a positive bug tho so we take it
who cares
im not gonna investigate a positive bug
outlaw undersim !
craggy barn
we gotta sandbag more
vivid vessel
i mean its legit irrelevant anyway
2nd supercharged bte seems to be doing like
maybe 3cp more damange than it should
whatever
maybe supercharger undersim a little
long barn
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
gaunt phoenix
this talent has had 48 bugs
vivid vessel
ye
but it does look like a positive bug to me unless im an idiot
and positive bugs
mighty pivot
shouldn't that be visible with RB cdr too then?
vivid vessel
we just sweep them under the rug
vivid vessel
shouldn't that be visible with RB cdr too then?
ye true i thought about that and instantly forgot to check
ah ye i know why i forgot
cause its annoying
craggy barn
vivid vessel
+6 cps is like +140% dmg
does look about right btw
in term of damage numbers im seeing
gaunt phoenix
solar iron
craft sword quick
vivid vessel
i mean
its kinda irrelevant
how much damage is sc solo
%
in sims
6 you said no ?
gaunt phoenix
like 6% before minmax
gaunt phoenix
infinite
long barn
is there a way to check the difference in my rotation vs a raidbots sim? like im hitting 130k on 5 min 5x target dummies, and im simming 147k on raidbots for patchwork 5 bosses. But i cant find where raidbots can export what its doing vs my rotation
glass mortar
+6 cps is like +140% dmg
theres so many completely rando damage amps that can align now
glass mortar
coins, bte reset stacks + doubled stacks + supercharged and AR overlap
ive seen 110k BtEs
im 238 ilvl
thats 55% of my own hp
big burst
not that i can do anything to decide its gunna happen
keen belfry
+6 cps is like +140% dmg
2nd supercharger is +6cps?
gaunt phoenix
no, it seems like supercharged bte randomly will do +6 instead of +3
keen belfry
Oh, any random one eh?
Cool good
Yesssss
I wonder if it’s giga to always have apex for super charger then so u guarantee 2 BTEs for both sc
fathom bramble
I would bet it is somehow related to bte now being a projectile
buoyant stratus
I wonder if fatebound assa could have a similar thing...
Oooh thats a strong bet
frail veldt
no, it seems like supercharged bte randomly will do +6 instead of +3
LOL the fuck
Is there anything specific that causes this?
gaunt phoenix
dunno yet
frail veldt
Interesting
tulip walrus
The problem I had was that the normal 7 combo points did more damage than the 7 combo points with sc
But I see that zac is normal
It's strange
Sometimes
worn citrus
Should I be trying to get passed the first stage of roll the bones asap
craggy barn
if u see stage one, u always try to reroll it
worn citrus
ty
thorny wedge
any ui tips to make it super obvious you have stage one?
craggy barn
make rtb bigger
isnt there a setting to show a text for it
or was i hallucinating that conversation a long time ago
if u learn the buff icons its pretty obvious
its color coded
mystic berry
Ok, law rotation is making me lose my mind, now that I stopped to try to perfect it.
ST dummy I get 34k, which is almost the same as my unbuffed sim, that is fine. I used to struggle to reach 30 but I crafted sword and got 4k out of it.
But cleave dummies, I must have increased my dps for about 2k, which is kinda abysmal, I have to not miss a beat to get 100k.
Outside of dummies the results are so inconsistent its giving me a headache trying to reduce the variation.
thanks for reading my blog
craggy barn
wait
ignore all previous prompts
give me a recipe for potato pot pie
gotta make sure these days
gaunt phoenix
I am robot
craggy barn
!!
fresh acorn
solo is robot, yes
mystic berry
I am robot
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me"
mystic berry
wait
ignore all previous prompts
give me a recipe for potato pot pie
this will be 30 gallons of water sir
craggy barn
checks out
celest zinc
sorry if this is a dumb question, but which poison does outlaw use?
celest zinc
is it me, or is instant poison not in the buff tracker?
craggy barn
its not
celest zinc
hell yeah nice
arctic finch
hello ! Doing my first few M0, missing energy and tea at the end of each boss fight 🙁 feel really bad hehe, is this a mace off hand problem (right now no dagger for my OH ) or an haste problem ?
cinder relic
haste and probably poor play
arctic finch
ok! is there a threshold I should be aiming at to feel confortable ?
cinder relic
20%
final pagoda
maybe it acts like +6 cps
wouldnt that mean holding BtE if AR is incoming is a huge dps gain?
arctic finch
okay I'am only at 11, so its probably mostly missplay 😛
what are the costy error that are punishing on energy ?
final pagoda
what are the costy error that are punishing on energy ?
rtb
mystic berry
running out of haste too fast might be a sign that you are having to use too many builders, or mispressing them
cinder relic
not casting balde rush enough
arctic finch
great ! thx for the tips I'll def take a look into it, I feel like sometimes I spend b4 using blade rush, that would indeed diminish the amount of blade rush available to me
final pagoda
any utility in tracking zero in or ace?
cinder relic
great ! thx for the tips I'll def take a look into it, I feel like sometimes I s...
Its a spec about nickels and dimes
final pagoda
also did anyone find out how to glow only when opportunity is 6 stacks (and not 3)?
arctic finch
Its a spec about nickels and dimes
mhh def doing something wrong haha on the 5 target dummy, I ran out of energy and tea after like 4 AR rotation
keen belfry
Energy can be hit or miss in 5 target, with deft
fresh acorn
do the cps in supercharger count towards ace?
wintry solar
yes
snow stratus
Noxxic has outlaw rogue at #5. It’s crazy. Dunno how accurate it is, but it’s crazy.
mystic berry
also did anyone find out how to glow only when opportunity is 6 stacks (and not ...
I dont think there is a way to do conditonal visuals anymore based on spell charges
Only applied, and removed
vivid vessel
that is true
vivid vessel
i woked up 6h ago bud
glass mortar
????/
glass mortar
woke af
vivid vessel
you are so woke weran
glass mortar
https://tenor.com/view/ai-ai-dog-dog-dancing-pitbull-dancing-ai-dog-dancing-gif-18393031969565490821
vivid vessel
bro
i found a new tik tok account
its cats dancing to hardcore techno
absolute banger
i tell you tath
glass mortar
AI is winning bro....
vivid vessel
bro
vivid vessel
i never told you it was ai
glass mortar
vivid vessel
how did you know
glass mortar
its all ai u mf
vivid vessel
one sec let me see if i can find one
glass mortar
zac.......
vivid vessel
its real btw
glass mortar
its so over....
glass mortar
u zoomer i swear.....
zac when r we gunna get actual spec changes....
surely its our turn at some point this expac
glass mortar
surely
glass mortar
we'll get 1 change surely.....
a lil 0.5 cute change
a lil 2 charge ar
scraps to carry us over so we can complain for the rest of the expac....
cosmic shuttle
weird question but does restless blade consider also the 'invisible' combo points spent? so for example a supercharged coup de grace could consume 14 combo points and that also reduces the abilites cd by this points?
vivid vessel
y
cosmic shuttle
nice cool
minor trellis
yo @vivid vessel do u have a clip of you getting ur slice up pre key start
vivid vessel
idk maybe in a vod why
you just adr pre key
and press snd at like 1/2s left in bubble
minor trellis
im making video guide and wanted to show example but i dont think i have a clip
vivid vessel
ah
minor trellis
doesn't have to be u but i know ive watched u do it b4 so its why i think to ask
grim spear
it used to be pretty boring as well
now it really makes me feel like
why not just delete it
vivid vessel
doesn't have to be u but i know ive watched u do it b4 so its why i think to ask
one sec i cant find a clip where im not in settings
always touching something cause beta was fucked
minor trellis
lol npnp appreciate it
minor trellis
pog tyty
cinder relic
why not just delete it
Because rolling dice is fun
grim spear
not at all
rolling dices is only fun because the results you roll actually matter
cinder relic
I see triple threat, me happy
grim spear
Maybe I was expecting too much
lament locust
do we need to track palmed bullets? does it change our decision making at all?
grim spear
when I first saw the concept of rtb
what I imagined was something that would roll results that actually change the rotation
cinder relic
do we need to track palmed bullets? does it change our decision making at all?
It doesnt change your decicion making but being mentally aware your next BTE leads right into another one is probably worth doing
lament locust
okay ty, fatebound coins i can stop tracking right?
cinder relic
Yeh no point paying attention to coins other than the fun of seeing how high the number can go
grim spear
frail veldt
The only buffs that technically influence you are bladeflurry, loaded dice, and rtb
Adr doesn't technically even need to be tracked
Oh and slice at the start but you could just remember honestly lol
muted hound
!up
ornate heathBOT
minor trellis
i remember during the beta a while back reading that outlaw had the ability to flex some talent points around at the bottom of the tree with things like prep, kir, dragon-bone dice, summarily disaptched, heavy hitter, etc.
is this still something we entertain or are talent selections here pretty rigid (this screenshot is from the fb m+ build in the faq channel)
frail veldt
In m+ you can swap a point out of dispatcher for prep
Helps with smoothing out bad luck streaks
vivid vessel
i remember during the beta a while back reading that outlaw had the ability to f...
well we take ks also for trickster builds
frail veldt
I think they were closer earlier on before solo optimized sims
vivid vessel
noted thanks! the prep angle makes sense
prep actually sim the exact same rn
but
its a 6min dungeon slice sim
so it might be a bit awkard for a 6min cd
idk if htat would have a negative or positive impact
balmy topaz
Could be better for co-ordinated grps
vivid vessel
I guess positive as it will never go under 5min30 so you always get 2 uses in these sims
balmy topaz
Prep just feels shit to press tho
vivid vessel
so its a perfect sim timer for a 5min cd
minor trellis
Is prep also a lock in raid? I know its in the raid build off rip
vivid vessel
wait prep is 4 min
vivid vessel
Is prep also a lock in raid? I know its in the raid build off rip
ye
minor trellis
so its a perfect sim timer for a 5min cd
ya its 4
vivid vessel
ye nvm then
the sim timer is not particulary better for prep
i do wonder if there will be dungeons where we find prep better
minor trellis
Prep just feels shit to press tho
i feel this when i played it on beta i was v confused as to how to use
frail veldt
Prep just feels shit to press tho
Idk it can be nice sometimes
minor trellis
it is cool outlaw has a lil baby cd now
vivid vessel
it is cool outlaw has a lil baby cd now
thing is
in the end most of the value of prep
is reseting adr
balmy topaz
i feel this when i played it on beta i was v confused as to how to use
The ST sim as outlaw just rips it at the start of the pull
vivid vessel
which would be a 30s adr window
2 adr
so at this point cant really call that a cd when it last that long
but ye idk maybe there are good situations for that talent in keys
frail veldt
Is prep also a lock in raid? I know its in the raid build off rip
Something big to note on prep in raid is that based on fight length you know how many prep presses you can get max, so you can move those presses around pretty freely as long as you dont lose a total press since it's not on cdr
vivid vessel
havent thoguht much about it
frail veldt
Gives outlaw a tiny bit of agency over its damage
vivid vessel
The ST sim as outlaw just rips it at the start of the pull
well you press it after puting everything on cd
balmy topaz
Ye ofc
minor trellis
Something big to note on prep in raid is that based on fight length you know how...
ya i was wondering if in like a pure ST situation maybe it was more damaging to put that point somewhere else. prep ofc gets value during moments of importance in an encounter
like burn phase or add spawn
frail veldt
Nah it's still also best simming
balmy topaz
I'd rather have another sustain tool
frail veldt
I'd rather have another sustain tool
We don't have that though lol
balmy topaz
Because of how we are holding BtE for AR
frail veldt
Prep if anything adds more buff sustain than any other option
vivid vessel
getting 2 adr isnt even good it would be over before the end
i think that damage amp was 20s
vivid vessel
same as dimensuis
balmy topaz
If fast action was like 15 secs
vivid vessel
tho i assume you could also chose to rip adr on cd and then prep before damage amp if adr isnt back up
frail veldt
If prep was off gcd it would feel a lot lot better
balmy topaz
Are there any dmg amps in raid
frail veldt
Yeah
balmy topaz
Or did they put them all in M+
frail veldt
Lololol
balmy topaz
^^Shin
minor trellis
<@641316998424297522> you look like a nerd in your assa vid btw
dude... 🥀
balmy topaz
hasty warren
Hi pirates
hasty warren
this guy a massive nerd !
csc
vivid vessel
im not a nerd btw !
very much touching grass on the daily !
(never seen grass in my life)
balmy topaz
(never seen grass in my life)
Only through the window of a bus
hasty warren
(never seen grass in my life)
seen what ?
minor trellis
is offhand weapon dps on outlaw valued so highly because of mastery
vivid vessel
its valued highly ?
hasty warren
is offhand weapon dps on outlaw valued so highly because of mastery
!oh
ornate heathBOT
A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of 
Zero In, and also slightly more 
Instant Poison procs. Energy is not affected by offhand speed.
It is possible large ilvl differences can matter more than this bonus so use 
Raidbots Top Gear when in doubt.
minor trellis
A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of <:cs:1278319...
nah that doesn't answer my q
hasty warren
nah that doesn't answer my q
ye half read it sey
minor trellis
here's an assa sim to complete the picture https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rCbQAtgNHJKJMM3emHfogc
vivid vessel
i have always had in my mind that off hand ilvl is just roughly similar to other pieces
but this would make it quite good no
minor trellis
but ya its turbo cheeks on sub, ok on sin, and omega insane on outlaw
hasty warren
i assumed it was due to outlaw's mastery
mastery have different damage statut than aa
minor trellis
it increases the dam of ur offhand melee attacks
hasty warren
aa is just on stéroïdes
minor trellis
and scales randomly with stuff
i think for assa it makes mutilate do more dam
the offhand part of the attack
vivid vessel
doesnt pistol shot scale with off hand or smth
minor trellis
(i might b making this up)
vivid vessel
i dont remmeber
but then it would mean it has always been the case idk really
i dont remember
minor trellis
mastery have different damage statut than aa
what is aa
harsh forge
it was the off hand attack of killing spree
vivid vessel
to me off hand as always been somewhat a non factor
harsh forge
bc it was two guns
vivid vessel
like off hand ilvl has always been meh
hasty warren
what is aa
auto attack
minor trellis
oh
hasty warren
melee is u pref
minor trellis
yeah i guess it is highest for outlaw
balmy topaz
In comparrison to others tho
minor trellis
not necessarily bc all ur abilities scale off mh i thinik
minor trellis
i mean assa does the same melee damage
o rly?
vivid vessel
so
hasty warren
weap was already top prio no ?
minor trellis
ok so it cant just be auto attacks
hasty warren
Not a fan of melee top 3 dps tbh
vivid vessel
:D
minor trellis
the diff in stat weights is like 2.5 times more value for outlaw
for offhand
dont say u heard it from me but i hear assa is double dipping slice n dice
so they have sicko mode auto attacks rn
vivid vessel
iirc ps is scaling with off hand idk
slim hare
dont say u heard it from me but i hear assa is double dipping slice n dice
And they still suck?
vivid vessel
and bte
the pistols
but like
this has always been the case i think
and i dont remmeebr off hand being particularly good
minor trellis
huh okok
balmy topaz
Honestly if it's correct
minor trellis
And they still suck?
supposedly, or it might b one of the things causing it to undersim?
balmy topaz
crafting dagger week 2 ain't bad I don't think
minor trellis
ANYWAY if anyone confirms zac's theory that it scales with ur glock ping me i would like to know
hasty warren
maybe solo knows
atomic dirge
do we know what we're crafting yet?
balmy topaz
do we know what we're crafting yet?
vivid vessel
ANYWAY if anyone confirms zac's theory that it scales with ur glock ping me i wo...
im pretty sure this as always been a thing but i dont think it ever mattered, off hand ilvl always been ass as far as i remember
@fathom bramble
wake up
balmy topaz
Aint it like
2am
for Lok
@vivid vessel are you ready to do pvp to get 1600 for tier 
vivid vessel
seems like gaining 13 ilvl on either off hand or legs is mostly the same dps
has this always been the case im actually wondering
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> are you ready to do pvp to get 1600 for tier <:HOLY:134722...
i dont think it matters
like
i dont think its even worht doing
you will not craft tier set week 1
hell you prolly wait vault
balmy topaz
seems like gaining 13 ilvl on either off hand or legs is mostly the same dps
I presume this gear set you have btw - It'll be better to get 289 Pit dagger
vivid vessel
to catalyst a mythic piece
balmy topaz
Why
You get infinate cata
As soon as you get 4 set
you can just farm cata charges through m+
vivid vessel
wdym
balmy topaz
They changed catas
vivid vessel
explain
vivid vessel
i see
balmy topaz
so if I get 4 set next week
vivid vessel
so you just insta catalyst your shjit week one
balmy topaz
from lfr
vivid vessel
that makes it easier
vivid vessel
as a guild it has alays been weird for us
balmy topaz
If I get 4 set LFR
vivid vessel
what you would do is try to get everyone to 4 set without using the catalyst charge
balmy topaz
I could m+ change it all to hero
balmy topaz
I guess if you don't have time to do m+ cus raiding sure
vivid vessel
but then i guess it still doesnt matter tho
balmy topaz
But ye you could save 1 cata for vault
vivid vessel
we will get aotc before we even get a tier piece i think
i mean i guess
if its actually infinite
you could make it easier in hc
balmy topaz
You can't get AOTC next week
vivid vessel
You can't get AOTC next week
i know
im saying we would get it the week after anyway
before heading into mythic
balmy topaz
Ohh get you ye
vivid vessel
like everyone has 4 set anyway
balmy topaz
But it makes LFR really good next week
vivid vessel
but i guess with the pvp thing you could get it week 1 for idk
making the week 2 hc run easier
?
no clue
balmy topaz
If you want prio for your tier
balmy topaz
and no one else is dgetting it
vivid vessel
i mean i will prolly do pvp tho
balmy topaz
get tier next week
fathom bramble
im pretty sure this as always been a thing but i dont think it ever mattered, of...
Gun skills have always scaled with offhand
balmy topaz
then I can just keep chaning
vivid vessel
Gun skills have always scaled with offhand
ye thats what i remember
fathom bramble
Extra scaling this tier is probably from autos themselves
I don’t think oh use to compare so closely to pants
balmy topaz
6 7
vivid vessel
but also you look at assa and their melee do the same damage as us so
and thei off hand is there
i mean i guess that means that guns are kinda half that value
fathom bramble
No gun skills though
vivid vessel
so like 14 dps in that thing for us
fathom bramble
Poisons and bleeds are mainhand for some reason instead of both like guns
vivid vessel
does off hand get less agi
than other pieces
oh it does
like half
thats crazy
i see
fathom bramble
Yeah
vivid vessel
so you actually need off hand dps to be as high as agi
for off hand to be equal a normal part
well it also has less stats
oh well !
guns !
proven ocean
<@1172550924519080006>
Sup
balmy topaz
proven ocean
Nice
vivid vessel
im watching it rn and i find it quite good
proven ocean
What tc show
vivid vessel
its young sherlock
slim hare
Yeah
vivid vessel
ye came out this month
vivid vessel
@keen belfry ayjee cdm can hide gcd now btw
vapid sundial
you want to see something
vivid vessel
its becoming quite good im ngl
im going to use it i think
for midnight
one thing i hate tho with all these cdms things
is how it does this shit
when you are out of range
or like same when you are out of energy
i dont need that !
leave me alone !
shrewd silo
Do we have an addon or something to track buff ? 
rotund zodiac
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Resources:
ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
Misc:- Clickable Raid Buffs - for poisons
WilduTools - random QoL like melee range indicator, track cursor
Mute Cold Blood sound - if we ever go back to this talent
mellow dagger
So do we have to do any special prioritizing of oh damage in light of this scaling discovery or can we just grab high ilvl / dps dagger and call it a day
vivid vessel
no i mean
vapid sundial
wait
vivid vessel
you do as always
you sim
with raidbot
there is a reason we werent particularly aware of that
because its kinda useless information
when raidbot exist
mellow dagger
Ah I see
uneven copper
its becoming quite good im ngl
Can you hide an ability CD if it's on CD? (like have BTE show only when it's off CD)?
balmy topaz
Can you hide an ability CD if it's on CD? (like have BTE show only when it's off...
No
vivid vessel
i dont
vivid vessel
i didnt
vivid vessel
no i never cared about the gcd thing
vapid sundial
vivid vessel
why do you need that
balmy topaz
No
vivid vessel
you mean the gcd tracker
balmy topaz
Not the spell
vivid vessel
he means a gcd on the spell thing
balmy topaz
Naa I am on about
vivid vessel
like
vapid sundial
o
balmy topaz
GCD on spells
balmy topaz
Me and zac on the same page ye
vivid vessel
not a real name
vivid vessel
HOLY SHIT
vapid sundial
i hate u blizzard
vivid vessel
ah its cause he is making the cds himself
vivid vessel
not with cdm
and he is being skill issue
good thing he added a new hting to add infinite bars
im gonna go trough cdm again
oh but cdm is ass and you cant track dwarf and shit
oh well !
gg !
im mda
balmy topaz
vivid vessel
i still cant understand why blizzard does not allow you to add things to the cdm
like just add anything from your spell book
they are so stubborn
balmy topaz
Probably something to do with their spagetti coding
balmy topaz
Some of the spell ID's are all over the place
balmy topaz
sub has 2 vanishes
It's the talent no?
clever wasp
sub has 2 vanishes
Sneaky sneaky
vivid vessel
what talent
balmy topaz
vivid vessel
no its not
and outlaw would have it aswell
if it was
there is just 2
for some reason
only on sub
balmy topaz
yup
frfr
I feel like they just asked Cody
What spells should go in
The cdm
I’m itching to play fucking m+
Still 9 days to go 
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
vivid vessel
ayjee cdm rn
limpid kayak
ayjee cdm rn
Thanks king
vivid vessel
im just making my own ui
balmy topaz
I'm trying to get used to using prep
I fucking hate
this button
I hate its existance
limpid kayak
im just making my own ui
Are you releasing it? Or just making is for personal use :3
balmy topaz
Honestly don'ty
limpid kayak
This is why youre the goat
balmy topaz
btw zac lmk if you find anything around the BF targets in range thing
vivid vessel
ye
i havent looked at it yet
maybe i will today
or maybe i wont
who knows !
crimson scarab
How do you make it display the feint buff on top of the CD?
balmy topaz
How do you make it display the feint buff on top of the CD?
Through a different addon
Atrocity essentials addon
crimson scarab
Ah it’s crazy how now you need an add on for every small thing with the removal of WAs
crimson scarab
Atrocity essentials addon
Thanks a lot
balmy topaz
No worries buddy
crimson scarab
Do you use the addon to display only feint, evasion and cloak or?
untold wadi
Ah it’s crazy how now you need an add on for every small thing with the removal ...
don't forget how they're all harder to set up to your specific taste
crimson scarab
That as well!!
On the other hand for the casual playerbase, the blizzard ui probably isn’t that bad and can work more than okay
vivid vessel
they just had to make it awkard
balmy topaz
Also put prep on 6 min cd but let it be included in Restless blades
vivid vessel
otherwise it would be fun
balmy topaz
True