outlaw

[still matrix]

Didn't they last xpansion nerf Outlaw

after m0 damage

and sim results

when we were top on sims with no tier set and 0 movement

[floral compass]

heard we had energy problems, that still true?

[quaint mauve]

haste dependent im pretty sure

feels fine at 30%

[gaunt phoenix]

sort of, you need upwards of 25% haste

[still matrix]

Better do the same this time with other classes

[floral compass]

oof

[hasty warren]

playing with tea

[ionic citrus]

This means I'll be trying to send BtE 6CP+ even with Supercharger up?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah

[ionic citrus]

Oh boy... huge shots coming

LIFT YOUR SPIRITS BOYS ... AT LEAST ITS NOT SHADOWLANDS RELEASE DAY!

I'm on dummy training the new rotation ... theres a weird spot where:
BtE is up (we held it)
AR comes out of cd
BUT WE HAVE 5+ CP
I imagine the best scenario here is to Dispatch, AR + BtE?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[normal forge]

Why tf ppl are saying that outlaw is a survival hunter?

[lime lake]

probably bc they both have guns and can both dw

obviously its just a joke but

survival does have a bigger gun

[prime agate]

and bombs

[lime lake]

[normal forge]

I don't like being related to hunters..it hurts my feelings

[quaint mauve]

survival is cooler now

why don’t we have bombs

[floral compass]

we have a smokebomb

suffocate them!

[ionic citrus]

mom: we have smokebomb at home.
at home:

[normal forge]

Where is the hypeeee

Everyone's sleeping I guess

[granite jasper]

hypeee

[ionic citrus]

[wintry solar]

Hype for what? The only thing they advertised was already released

[normal forge]

😭

[glass mortar]

Hype to enjoy bf falling off constantly and being on cd everytime I wanna pull 3 mobs while leveling

😝

The glowup from vanish resets is real af

[ionic citrus]

There is a new minmax to sometimes hold :bte: BtE for :talents_supercharger: Supercharger. The full rule is that if :adr: Adrenaline Rush's cooldown is nearly ready (under ~30s remaining) then we should hold :bte: BtE until AR is cast, so that it is spent with :talents_supercharger: Supercharger active. You don't need the apex talent for this to be a gain, but with apex it is an extra bonus that sometimes you will be able to double-cast :bte: BtE and both of them are buffed by :talents_supercharger: Supercharger. Overall it's about a 0.7-1% gain with endgame crit, but even with preseason crit it should still show a minmaxy gain (~0.5%).

I'm trying the opposite way around... holding AR and only using it with BtE. Sometimes feels slow but sometimes the BtE keeps reseting bringing AR out of cd way sooner. Then I'm Dispatching and AR+BtE.

This feels really good sometimes.

Edit: With 6 bullets up its worth to spend the BtE (its going to reset) or wait for a guarantee 2 times buffed BtE?

My head is hurting 🤕

[glass mortar]

Holding ar 🤔

Why

Holding bte accomplishes the same thing practically but wastes cdr on a much less valuable ability

I dony think ace is strong enough to warrant that it doesn't even let you chain finishers

[ionic citrus]

Because Dispatch doesnt reset itself like BtE has a chance to and by doing so it brings AR out of cd earlier.

[glass mortar]

And increases the odds of you not having bte up for that ar

The point is to have bte up when ar starts

If u got ar off cd faster because of procs but then u hold ar for ur next bte what value did u even get

U got ar off cd faster to waste more cdr on it

[ionic citrus]

🤔

[glass mortar]

Because ur sitting with it off cd

Ur ace procs got ar off cd 10s faster say but now bte is on cd and ur sitting with ar wasting finisher cdr to get bte off cd

What value did u even get having ar off cd a bit earlier if you aren't using it earlier

[viscid swan]

!ui

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Mute Cold Blood sound
• EasyReminders - can show poison reminders outside of instances

[frozen quest]

how we lookingg?
what should i remove or add?

[vivid vessel]

you dont need to track coins

[blazing creek]

that's clean

[vivid vessel]

kinda just spam

[quaint mauve]

waiting for tuesday

[vivid vessel]

you also dont need to track bte thing

you prolly would want to track loaded dice tho

[vivid vessel]

and idk that seems good to me

[quaint mauve]

no wangbar

[wintry solar]

You mean monday?

[frozen quest]

no im using bcdm

less addons

[quaint mauve]

something like that

[wintry solar]

Check out this lizard

A little fella

[wintry solar]

Holy shit he went pro

[frank finch]

continue trickster for leveling or fb out the gate? 🙂

[covert kestrel]

fb cause fuck ks

[gaunt phoenix]

just go fb

at level 81 you immediately lose haste and such

[copper radish]

So it’s gonna be like walking off a cliff can’t wait

[formal knot]

fb for the double grapples anyway

[mild tide]

how can I disable those combopoints and the energybar and replace it with wangbar?

[unborn canyon]

are you using BCDM?

and then in WB I've been auto sizing it to the CDM settings since I have mine dynamically set up

[proven ocean]

this looks rly close to my old ui

ish

[finite slate]

is rogue very bad this expansion ? ::(((

[wintry solar]

We'll know when it launches in 2 hours

[normal forge]

for leveling, what u guys rolling?

[frozen quest]

im actually thinking if its even necessary to track thistle tea on any spec since its auto use anyway

• just spec and forget it - dont think we will ever press it anymore

[cinder relic]

Just to mentally be aware of its existance is worth it imo

[vapid sundial]

i will play what @vivid vessel tells me to

[mild tide]

yes and ty 🙂

[quiet ore]

Just to know you're really really running on empty right now and you won't get an injection from tea for another 40s at least

[glass mortar]

tbh theres already been feelycrafting on the value of tracking it

like do u wanna waste a tea charge spamming ur energy away if 1 mob is alive/the packs about to die

and go into the next pack without any tea charges or less then u coulda

ud probably just wanna afk and avoid overcapping energy at that point rather then let a tea charge go

[normal forge]

where is the quest giver in sw ?

[glass mortar]

according to my sources it starts in dorn

[keen belfry]

i might level as sub

thoughts guyus

[hasty warren]

faction capital

it's next to the bank

[glass mortar]

does shadowstrike from stealth still teleport

subs always been a good leveling spec

[keen belfry]

leveling as the law

sounds like a pain

[normal forge]

silvermoon-eu offline

[glass mortar]

yea no BF extension is not super pleasant in areas of quest mobs

🙂

i was experiencing that cleaning up some easy content yesterday

[violet ferry]

Which spec is best for getting past Logging in to game server?

[faint pendant]

sneak in

[fervent garden]

hah, was wondering that myself

[faint pendant]

you are rogue after all

[glass mortar]

you know this issue actually didnt pop up in TWW or df for me

i wonder if prerelease is just getting more popular and has more players

or what they fucked up this time

[fervent garden]

oh im in!

[random stirrup]

it was fine until the quest guys actually loaded in

and server instantly blew up

seems like they screwed up

[subtle plover]

Yeah

Last launch was so clean

[violet ferry]

vibe-coded launch

[vivid vessel]

too many house players logged in

luckely thye are gone by next week

[glass mortar]

based and housmaxing pilled

[covert kestrel]

Reject title, embrace cozy

[fair iron]

time to login to melee weave on TBC for complexity of the spec

[glass mortar]

wait bte has an actual projectile now

does it match up with the damage

[vivid vessel]

ye

idk

[glass mortar]

we can actually reset raid bosses again

[vivid vessel]

its cool tho

[glass mortar]

outlaw is so saved

[vivid vessel]

i mean we dont know if its just purely visual or not

[glass mortar]

ye tru i need to test if it matches the damage

would be cool if its the case tho

i miss being able to reset

[glass mortar]

i missed a mob tag due to slow grapple 😭 nvm

outlaws so over again

[desert tendon]

zac u leveled 100 already?

[untold wadi]

rogues get level 100 for fairness

[glass mortar]

@vivid vessel it is the projectile speed

very noticable at max range

there is one issue. PS is still instant

need CP to reset bosses

[cinder relic]

Guys this is a little early to say but

This might be expansion of the year

[glass mortar]

the story so far is pretty good

and the visuals

VELEN RELEVANCY? my god we remember old npcs exist

proud o u blizzard

[quiet ore]

Can't believe you're ignoring the Nightreighn DLC

[wintry solar]

Nah, Re9 will have DLC later

[copper radish]

smoother transition to leveling than it was with tww early release ill have to say lol

[hollow temple]

guys i have no starter quest for the campaign? what do i do?

[zinc thunder]

....the tumbleweed is stupid. sorry, it just is.

[copper radish]

shift J and suggest content tab i think

[hollow temple]

nothing there

i logged on all my chars

same issue

[copper radish]

are u in stormwind or org?

and did u buy early access

[hollow temple]

dorno

yes

[copper radish]

go to org or stormwind

[hollow temple]

kk

[copper radish]

should auto accept when u go there

[deft verge]

wahts stat prio pls

for midnight leveling

[gaunt phoenix]

crit haste

[wintry solar]

Do we have pre raid bis list?

[gaunt phoenix]

No, maybe after early access. Idk the state of all trinket implementations and such.

[normal forge]

is sub stronger than us, like tww s3 again?

[cinder relic]

if burst matters, yes

If not, outlaw has legs

Outlaw shouldnt be the literal worst spec in the entire game again though

[normal forge]

fair enough

ty

ok, nite nite bbye

[keen belfry]

can u figure it out before i need to max leveling speed

[covert kestrel]

Can no one get in?? Where is everyone!

[grim spear]

for now, that one-button rotation actually looks quite solid

the priority seems to be completely correct.

[gaunt phoenix]

Oh, i was meaning to look at that

[copper radish]

Gotta min max the M0 gear

[gaunt phoenix]

actions.assisted_combat+=/ambush,if=buff.stealth.up&target.distance<=40&effective_combo_points<=4
actions.assisted_combat+=/blade_flurry,if=active_enemies>=2&buff.blade_flurry.down
actions.assisted_combat+=/preparation,if=!cooldown.adrenaline_rush.ready&!cooldown.between_the_eyes.ready&!cooldown.blade_rush.ready
# This is for Blizzard automation and is not included in the game's Assisted Combat system.
actions.assisted_combat+=/adrenaline_rush,if=!talent.improved_adrenaline_rush
# This is for Blizzard automation and is not included in the game's Assisted Combat system.
actions.assisted_combat+=/adrenaline_rush,if=talent.improved_adrenaline_rush&effective_combo_points<=2
actions.assisted_combat+=/blade_rush,if=talent.vigor&energy<=174
actions.assisted_combat+=/blade_rush,if=!talent.vigor&energy<=74
actions.assisted_combat+=/between_the_eyes,if=effective_combo_points>=5
actions.assisted_combat+=/killing_spree,if=effective_combo_points>=5&active_enemies>=1
actions.assisted_combat+=/dispatch,if=effective_combo_points>=5
actions.assisted_combat+=/coup_de_grace,if=effective_combo_points>=5
actions.assisted_combat+=/blade_flurry,if=active_enemies>=4&effective_combo_points<=4&talent.deft_maneuvers
actions.assisted_combat+=/ambush,if=talent.hidden_opportunity
actions.assisted_combat+=/pistol_shot,if=buff.opportunity.up
actions.assisted_combat+=/sinister_strike
actions.assisted_combat+=/pistol_shot,if=energy>=99&target.distance>15
actions.assisted_combat+=/sinister_strike```

this is the assisted combat priority it seems

[grim spear]

it just looks like the wowhead guide.

[gaunt phoenix]

the main thing missing is perhaps not rolling away stage 1 rtb

[grim spear]

indeed

[gaunt phoenix]

And 5cp bte

[grim spear]

wdym 5cp bte?

[copper radish]

So are we one button rogues now

[gaunt phoenix]

I mean it sends bte at 5 when it should be 6

[grim spear]

oh

I’ve always been using 5 cp bte

[topaz spoke]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[gaunt phoenix]

bad !

[grim spear]

I am guilty!

[gaunt phoenix]

Bte wants to consume zero in at higher cps

[grim spear]

So when I’m at 5 cp, I should ss again?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah

or whatever builder is prio

[grim spear]

ok

[quaint mauve]

tonight

we hunt

[elfin mural]

!ui

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Mute Cold Blood sound
• EasyReminders - can show poison reminders outside of instances

[cinder relic]

Its only dispatch that you send at 5 on fatebound

[fathom bramble]

BTE consumes both the supercharger charges if it triggers apex 1 @gaunt phoenix

I don't think it conveys any benefit

just wastes the 2nd one

[cinder relic]

Dont say that

[fair iron]

welcome to xhampoin culb

[glass mortar]

yea that sounds about right

[gaunt phoenix]

Whatdahell

[lime lake]

lmao

[agile quiver]

Looking at the new pin, Sleight of Hand comes out over a point of Heavy Hitter?

[fathom bramble]

I suspect literally no one tested supercharger on the alpha/beta

so idk if this has been there the whole time

[gaunt phoenix]

They are the same, see 2nd pin

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-its-good-to-be-back-robert-downey-jr-rdj-tony-stark-iron-man-gif-10834132

[tepid geode]

somehow i can't use your cdm profile, wont let me rename

[tight kernel]

Softcap BF yet?

[gaunt phoenix]

the good news is that supercharger is still like 1% ahead of cb even with the bug

[cinder relic]

Wdym?

[tepid geode]

your cdm profile

[gaunt phoenix]

It's a blizzard bug

[buoyant rampart]

Where can I get foreverguys package 🍆 ?

[jolly geyser]

Of

[unkempt dew]

Having fun yet?

[cinder relic]

Yep!

[fallen zodiac]

what else do i drop to reach supercharger? i dropped lethality

[storm hemlock]

do we use ambush again?

[unkempt cypress]

Not sure

[cinder relic]

Unbind it fully

[cinder relic]

U need to level up lol

[fallen zodiac]

[vague cape]

@cinder relic you really reccomend kir in a levelling setup?

or is the button on the wowhead page bricked

[cinder relic]

Yeah

Feels solid to me so far idk

U can just swap it out if u dont fw it

[vague cape]

it's an option, personally I'd have gone for one of the AR amps or prep - it's levelling anyway everything just dies

[next veldt]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Mute Cold Blood sound
• EasyReminders - can show poison reminders outside of instances

[sterile obsidian]

Coming back to outlaw on wendsday after a year and half break. How is rogue and outlaw looking so far in beta?

[violet ferry]

it's not turbo bass boosted like before, but it's still good as long as you like the playstyle

[cinder relic]

Finished the campaign

Not level 90, so time for bed

[river wing]

huh? full campaign isn't getting you to 90? is that without sidequests?

[cinder relic]

Like, almost 0 side quests yeah

Tomorrow will be sidequest day

[quiet ore]

I had to do a handful of side quests at 85 to hit 86 and start the void storm part, somehow the smooth campaign curve I remembered from the beta was gone. I dunno what changed.

[river wing]

curious, but not unexpected, I suppose
I did have to do some side quests in TWW to get to 80 proper

[fossil lintel]

Got to 90

Did campaign + delves + first craft

[hollow creek]

do we use SnD ?

[full coral]

Sorry of this is a common question but im still super new to rogue, why do all guides want us using a dagger offhand/is it that important or sim min/max

[fossil lintel]

No, dispatch will give it for you for free. There's some optimisations but don't worry about that right now

!oh

[ornate heath]

A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of Zero In, and also slightly more Instant Poison procs. Energy is not affected by offhand speed.

It is possible large ilvl differences can matter more than this bonus so use Raidbots Top Gear when in doubt.

[full coral]

Thank you, this is good news. I need to double tmog my weapons into Chromatically Tempered Swords

[flat karma]

you can mog daggers to swords and vice-versa now

[vapid aspen]

!sheet

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[silk dirge]

with the change to supercharger talents is it still bis to dispatch before BtE

[gaunt rover]

anyone having an issue with wangbar not showing up in combat until you spend your first finisher

sometimes

[high thunder]

!ui

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Mute Cold Blood sound
• EasyReminders - can show poison reminders outside of instances

[fathom holly]

guys guys

do we still ignore ambush for kir?

[vivid vessel]

yes

not for kir tho

just for non ho builds

[fathom holly]

got you zac ty

[sacred rune]

zac

are you 90 yet?

[vivid vessel]

i havent logged in yet

you ?

[sacred rune]

Probably can start playing - <t:1772202600:R>

so same

[vivid vessel]

ye idk im just not hypaed

• i always hate leveling so

[agile quiver]

my first thought was age, and I thought "damn, you calling him old?!"

[sacred rune]

tbh if he plays wow at 90

all respect to him

[stoic marsh]

especially if playing outlaw at 90

[craggy barn]

i hit 90 as law lfg

ez game

[river wing]

errgh
gotta wait for another three hours till I can play
well, not wait, working would be good

[strong halo]

Why is platynator recommended over plater? Lighter add on?

[sacred rune]

easier to configure

[strong halo]

Does it matter if I just import jundies?

[gleaming reef]

I need to change mob nameplate colour 🙁

[lucid sparrow]

tr or fb for leveling

[quaint mauve]

i think fb for everything (?)

[lucid sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-eminem-taern-eminem-taern-coin-toss-eminem-imperial-imperial-gif-13493891068666315081

say no more

[hasty warren]

hi pirates

[gaunt phoenix]

Supercharger is bugged

The first Gravedigger talent, where BtE has a chance to proc its damage buff twice, will mistakenly consume Supercharger again if it activates.

So sometimes you will AR > BtE and both stacks Supercharger will get consumed, when only 1 of them is actually doing anything.

You lose like 1% dps from this, so it's not crazy impactful, but yeah it be bugged. Hopefully some visibility can get it fixed.

The BtE minmax where you hold it for AR is effectively neutral because of this bug until very high crit levels.

[vivid vessel]

oh no

couldnt have seen tath one coming

[copper radish]

Yall finding leveling it’s taking around an hour per level?

Seems pretty quick

[gaunt phoenix]

dunno, not really rushing it

[covert kestrel]

no but the m0 non seasonal grind is happening!! DONT FALL BEHIND

[gaunt phoenix]

[lucid sparrow]

if ur not 90 yet

gg gl next expansion

too far behind

whats the point

[river wing]

time to grab an after-work nap
to level all night

[lucid sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/naps-jon-bernthal-i-dont-trust-people-that-take-naps-i-hate-naps-erm-fuck-naps-gif-5356788629963891706

[river wing]

wise
it's a surefire way to 100% fuck up your sleep schedule

but sometimes sacrifices must be made.

[lucid sparrow]

what about ambushing first then bte?

[gaunt phoenix]

I dont see how that's related to supercharger

[lucid sparrow]

AR > dispatch > bte

since bte is gna bug out and take both cp from supercharger

not ambush wtf am is aying

dispatch

mb

[lucid sparrow]

if that makes sense

i didnt calculate anything just wondering if that would be a ''go around'' of sorts

[slate plaza]

How much simpler is outlaw now

[mighty pivot]

how tho. what in spaghetti tarnation...

[copper radish]

One button rotation type shit

[gaunt phoenix]

not worth it seems

interesting thought

[quaint mauve]

hi vex

also yeah very simple

id still say its more complex than other classes

[vivid vessel]

guyts

im level 80 already

[urban reef]

!addons

!ui

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Mute Cold Blood sound
• EasyReminders - can show poison reminders outside of instances

[inner sky]

I like new Outlaw, there i said it. Just give me like 1 more CP from FTH so it smooths out, golden.

[gaunt phoenix]

valid

I think the spec would be totally complete with 2 charges of AR

[vivid vessel]

i think the spec would be less dogshit if ace procs did something

[inner sky]

also fair

[tacit shuttle]

On god.

[vivid vessel]

solo have ypoui leveled up yet

i keep login in

[gaunt phoenix]

yes, i'm level 81

[vivid vessel]

and my ui isnt done

so i log out

[gaunt phoenix]

so yeah i'm something of a gamer

[vivid vessel]

wtf

kinda gaming ye

[inner sky]

Well can you hurry up Zac so we can all copy it?

What am i supposed to make one myself

[vivid vessel]

idk

i cant do what i want with addons rn

i think its just not possible so

im kinda

i dont wanna

[inner sky]

I felt the same, ui doesnt bug me too much for levelling, but i know it will bad once i start running keys

[gaunt phoenix]

oh also blade flurry really should just preserve itself between combat

[keen belfry]

these zones are so cheddar

[keen belfry]

🙂

[gaunt phoenix]

true..

[keen belfry]

me when I AR the mob cuz it gives me dmg but then it falls off by the time i get to next mob

thoughts?

[copper radish]

I feel like I’ve leveled in these zones before…. Déjà vu

[keen belfry]

i will say i grew up leveling in eversong woods so there was no way i would dislike these zones

[vivid vessel]

why is the best ui upgrade we got in midnight the shop

[inner sky]

Its the only thing not vibe coded with Claude?

[lucid stirrup]

cuz money actually goes into that one

and comes out of it

[livid pewter]

u just have to buy everything once - now its fine for me hahaha

[lucid stirrup]

they have no hot need to do anything for player UI, they already got your money when you subbed... plus ppl do addons that tweak it for free, kekw

[inner sky]

Thats giving me a seizure

[turbid wren]

This is giving me so much anxiety lol

[keen belfry]

noah fecks is almost noah fence

[inner sky]

Its also almost Noah Fucks, but its not

[keen belfry]

cuz we dont lie here

[tacit shuttle]

I prefer minimalist

[inner sky]

Its hard when you have a toddler ok

[copper radish]

Gotta sell tokens

[inner sky]

You just wanna go to bed at 9:30

That came out very odd didnt it... Im gonna go now

[keen belfry]

night

sleep good ok?

[livid pewter]

naa its simple no worries

[tacit shuttle]

So, how are you guys feeling about outlaw overall in midnight thus far? Do you guys prefer other specs?

[livid pewter]

i feel pretty underleveld tbh

[keen belfry]

its the king of the poop slop that midnight has given us

[gaunt phoenix]

there are other specs in this game?

[tacit shuttle]

I'm still going to master the spec in its new form. I can't seem to ever be bothered to swap off, and I always gravitate back towards my outlaw. The way I see it, I'm going to try my hardest to pump

But honestly? I kind of miss the crackshot windows T_T

[twin steeple]

Crack addicts..

[random stirrup]

ts gives me 67-style visceral reaction because of llms now

[tepid geode]

wut do we take now instead of supercharge?

[buoyant stratus]

Oh buddy ur not gonna believe this...

[covert kestrel]

whats there to master lol

[tacit shuttle]

Lots of things maybe probably.

[lethal oak]

Blade rush

[tacit shuttle]

I just wanna pump numbers and be good at my class :)

[gaunt phoenix]

You still take it

it's just slightly weaker than expected

[coral onyx]

outlaw used to be the most mobile spec i believe before the talent changes due to sprint and grappling being off cd a lot. Is it still or are there contenders?

[tacit shuttle]

still have 4 grappling hooks

so yes

[normal forge]

hows the apex talents feeling, guys?

[opaque goblet]

guys i miss my crackshot weakaura, is there a similar addon with a sound queue for BtE resets?

[harsh ocean]

I've seen and heard so many competing opinions on the outlaw pruning. Is it as bad as some are saying?

[frank moth]

I think you can add a sound for when its off of CD via the CD manager

[normal forge]

no

outlaw is fine, maybe lacking some more dmg on BF or in general, but i dont know

but pruning-wise, its fine

[zinc briar]

Outlaw will be one of the worst for mythic raid

As always

[normal forge]

if u wanna click buttons u have KS, KIR, preparation, blade rush

BF and ADR are more clicky then ever

[harsh ocean]

Ye I think this is the Rogue crux. If the uptime class isnt giga tuned in ST youre totally reliant on sub or assa not being trash to raid

[zinc briar]

At least now the uptime is not that big problem

We dont have much to lose without or recover

Coz we are the same sht with full cds

[normal forge]

will sub top dmg meters on mythic raids over us again?

[jolly geyser]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Mute Cold Blood sound
• EasyReminders - can show poison reminders outside of instances

[zinc briar]

Ofc sub and assa will be better

[normal forge]

last patch i didnt reroll and got smashed, now i wanna re-roll but dont wanna

im afraid of rerolling and being bad at two specs

[gaunt phoenix]

reroll

[zinc briar]

I had to play assa in Dim

Outlaw was troll

0 burst, 0 prio..

[normal forge]

i tried sub on loomithar mythic but my numbers were the same as outlaw, so, no difference, the thing is, re rolling requires proper gear, and i dont have that much time to farm two specs gear for mythic level raiding

u need proper stats + trinkets and weapons

[fossil lintel]

At least we're in a better position than before for raid, the only problem now is the flat / unreliable damage profile

[covert kestrel]

now you wont have to worry about that cause specs are easy!

[zinc briar]

Yeah, thats the big problem, needing dif gear for assa/sub

Even the main hand

[zinc briar]

Its impossible being bad as subtlety now 🤣🤣🤣

[unkempt dew]

I never reroll. Outlaw forever

[normal forge]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[lone nebula]

!up

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1476887002019270761/Midnight_s1_fixed.png

[vapid blaze]

zac do you have one of those fancy setups where all your rogues share settings etc

[covert kestrel]

zac hasnt logged in yet lol

[untold wadi]

try bindpad

[vivid vessel]

Like what settings

I use myslot

For binds

Other than that there is nothing to share no?

[vapid blaze]

idk i only heard xerwo about linking that stuff between characters

[quaint mauve]

if you can play outlaw

you can play any other spec in the game

[vivid vessel]

Idk just myslot

[quaint mauve]

bro he looks so stupid

@proven ocean do you see this bro

[buoyant stratus]

Solo have we implented me going "please please please please" into the sleight of hand sims?

Its hard to tell with math but the vibes says it works

Also another good tech is going "watch this, BOOOOM" and rolling

[misty anvil]

is it 100% all of the time optimal to have a dagger offhand or is it dependant on anything?

[covert kestrel]

!oh

[ornate heath]

A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of Zero In, and also slightly more Instant Poison procs. Energy is not affected by offhand speed.

It is possible large ilvl differences can matter more than this bonus so use Raidbots Top Gear when in doubt.

[misty anvil]

🫡

[proven ocean]

Oh he looks like zac

No?

[vivid vessel]

did you level up yet ross

[keen belfry]

gettting gapped by shuja ran

[cinder relic]

If you don't level with music on ur banned

[buoyant stratus]

Maybe if eversong had some cello going...

[copper radish]

Does wow music count

[cinder relic]

Yeah thats what I mean

U need the wow music going

[ashen void]

first month or two of new content = music setting checkbox on fr

[buoyant stratus]

They coulda slam dunked the entire tbc eversong silvermoon soundtrack

And just redone it or revitalized it

Generic fantasy silvermoon 👎🏻

[ashen void]

i think i heard leitmotifs of the tbc cello when flying around areas like tranq and stuff

but ya it isn't in the city

[buoyant stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[ashen void]

Charrend wants that THICmotif

[crystal ether]

Guys what is your opinion on Preparation? Kinda wish they remove it next patch and make Killing Spree more impactful in rotation.

[gaunt phoenix]

should have been 2 charges on ar

[violet ferry]

Man I just cannot bring myself to care about the Harandir stuff.

[gaunt phoenix]

or more

[keen belfry]

just beat shuga

[gaunt phoenix]

this is a capstone

[cinder relic]

Leveling has been so chill

I love outlaw

[lethal oak]

[ashen void]

I like it. I like the story too. Has been a nice time.

[crystal ether]

I saw there is no build in end game where we use killing spree and feels sad

[buoyant stratus]

You can have multiple ARs active at a time

[gaunt phoenix]

we use killing spree if Trickster is good, because Trickster needs it

trickster is close but not quite there

[cinder relic]

Valerra being the delve companion is so elite

[gaunt phoenix]

mommy,,..

[violet ferry]

Yup

[ashen void]

I liked how derpy Brann was but this is a welcome change. Though I was in a delve where Valeera just kept jumping over and over and wouldnt stop jumping until the delve ended.

[violet ferry]

Brann didn't like getting replaced

So he's forcing himself back in

[cinder relic]

I know her daggers are available in some capacity though

Like we will be able to get them

[crystal ether]

the problem is IF, if trickter is worse the whole season we wont use Killing spree and that is shame and prep feels like ass. No rogue dev shows its marks

[buoyant stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/ironman-funny-cat-rigby-pee-gif-405629797762431248

[random stirrup]

killing spree sucks

[cinder relic]

I can't find the fucking model

but I know I saw them

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah it has quite the divided opinion

[cinder relic]

There is an in game version of this somewhere in midnight

[gaunt phoenix]

[cinder relic]

Hopefully its a delve reward of some kind

[ashen void]

Daggers forged from the Aggro Crag as featured on Nickelodeon GUTS circ 1992-1995

[cinder relic]

Valeera is such a cool character I'm glad shes getting fleshed out

[cinder relic]

Or even if not fleshed out, just a lot of screen time

[mighty pivot]

rip my stats

[cinder relic]

15 haste

4 grapples for leveling is so nice though

[copper radish]

Damn full mog of valeera inc

[vivid vessel]

ye its nice for when it breaks

you still have 3 other

[cinder relic]

Its nice just for getting around

[crystal ether]

how is that bug still in the game is funny and sad at the same time.

[vivid vessel]

[cinder relic]

We fuckin with this?

[wintry solar]

I've heard a lot of good things about the story

which is a little crazy ngl. I cant remember the last time I heard praise for WoW stories

[keen belfry]

lotta trauma dumping

[wintry solar]

I guess people relate?

[violet ferry]

Arator having daddy issues
Haranir are apex beings who suddenly can't deal with weeds
Remember Zul'Aman guys?

[coarse kraken]

I haven't been following retail since addons got gutted, how bad did highlight assist wind up being?

[gaunt phoenix]

the assisted combat should be in a good place for most specs as a lot of class complexity was taken out

Outlaw's assisted rotation is 6%? worse

If you count using KIR correctly as it not part of the highlight

[cinder relic]

These dudes in murder row are spamming RTB

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[past falcon]

and the dude w killing spree

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/twink-cat-twink-get-more-twinks-on-my-screen-screen-gif-5535107344679470536

[cinder relic]

This dungeon is cool

ITs all rogeu themed

[normal forge]

i used very similar mog during tww

[normal forge]

where do u get that helm piece?

[crystal ether]

in game store

[normal forge]

my current mog for midnite

[crystal ether]

I have similar

[normal forge]

i like urs better ❤️

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-those-gif-23546871

Shoulders

[normal forge]

legit shoulders, check them out

[slow sentinel]

7. Stealth does not matter in PvE, it is just movespeed. If you are in stealth, do not open with Ambush.
   This is so weird. It's crazy to be a Rogue and not care about stealth/openers.

[unkempt dew]

6% worse of a perfect rotation?

[fathom bramble]

yeah

it would be cool if stealth like reset the CD of bte or something

and maybe let it be cast for a few seconds too

[cinder relic]

NO

[vivid vessel]

honestly guys

it would be cool if stealth maintained adr

and bf

thoughts

[violet ferry]

It would be cool if stealth like paused the time left on Adrenaline rush

[fathom bramble]

it would probably help us not feel so weak in the open world

[past falcon]

interesting ideas! i like it

[vivid vessel]

you have to go from a mob to another and you lost everything ..

[fathom bramble]

since we can't feedback loop between mobs like at all

[unkempt dew]

Yeah and vanish should have a place in our rotation

[vivid vessel]

ok wait tho

what if

to solve that

[normal forge]

no pls no

[vivid vessel]

we could talent into a spell that would reset on mob death

idk something that fills your cp maybe

just puting that idea out there

[slow sentinel]

I still think it's weird to be a Rogue and not use openers.

That's kinda core to the lore IMO. But what do I know. 🙃

[fathom bramble]

I think I actually miss crackshot more in the open world than in raid

[vivid vessel]

i just miss ace procs

[normal forge]

i belive apex will help with that right?

[unkempt dew]

Yes

More ace procs please

[vivid vessel]

will it

its not ace procs

[fathom bramble]

apex doesn't really have the same vibe as ace procs

[vivid vessel]

its a fake garanted one

and its one

its never a chain

i just want to proc ace

get my cps back

and press bte again

and maybe get a few more

cause thats fun

i like procs

its unfortunate we had to delete every procs from the proc spec

[cinder relic]

Ive felt pretty solid during questing so far idk

But yeah crackshot was insane for open world

[fathom bramble]

I mean it's like fine

crackshot and other things we have had in the past were way better though

[cinder relic]

mfd could have gone hard

[gaunt phoenix]

i miss infinite bf

[past falcon]

i miss infinite bf but i get why they took it away

[gaunt phoenix]

i dont

they could have decoupled it from AR

[vivid vessel]

why?

i dont really get it

[past falcon]

i imagine cause otherwise our aoe rotation is the exact same as st

[fathom bramble]

I don't think this current version of BF being on the gcd and do nothing in low target counts is good

[past falcon]

which other classes complained about

[fathom bramble]

if we are going to need to cast it all the time

[vivid vessel]

we press bf on cd for cps

so idk what you mean

[past falcon]

well

[vivid vessel]

i think bf is super weird when its not perma but also gives cp

[past falcon]

yea but thats a talent

[vivid vessel]

on lower target count

i mena

[past falcon]

i agree

[vivid vessel]

its not really

a talent

also thats not relevant ?

[fathom bramble]

I don't think it necessarily needs to be perma up for free

but maybe it needs to last longer than 10 seconds and/or not be on the gcd anymore

[vivid vessel]

i think they didnt need to remove uuh anywya

[normal forge]

where is the quatermaster on this silvermoon stuff?

[vivid vessel]

we should have kept buffs during stealth

like the talent should have initially been

like we asked

[fathom bramble]

I mean yeah they could have kept uhuh and just deleted crackshot/subterfuge

[vivid vessel]

back then

[fathom bramble]

uhuh was actually fine as a standalone

[past falcon]

idk i hear ppl all the time that would bitch and be like, oh all u do is hit bf and do insane dmg (false but whatever) so the only thing i can think of rlly is that blizzard was like well at least now they HAVE to hit it 24/7 to do aoe dmg

regardless of if we were hitting it anyway for cps

idk im coping

[vivid vessel]

what

i mean in actual aoe it doesnt chamge anything tho ?

xd

which is like

most scenarios

its juist when you are under target

that it actually changes something

[past falcon]

yea

[normal forge]

is there an addon like gathermate but for skinning?

[fathom bramble]

what if the base cooldown of BF was like 15 seconds instead

and the downside on deft was just increasing the CD

BF should probably also pandemic

[past falcon]

pandemic would feel better for sure

[fathom bramble]

BF, AR, and RTB could all arguably pandemic

idk why RTB doesn't anymore

and I'm 51% sure it's a bug

[keen belfry]

this new bf so ass

i keep going to new mobs with bf on cd

[timid portal]

a lot of combo points

[sour vault]

has anyone managed a blizz cooldown manager layout that is worth copying?

[cinder relic]

Holy roleplay

[copper radish]

UHUH a craftable now???

[normal forge]

replace writers with AI

[cinder relic]

huh

[hasty warren]

thee's no more translators for localisations

[formal thunder]

ah yes

42 Combo Points

[normal forge]

what lol

[violet ferry]

That's going to be one hell of a BtE

[fathom bramble]

I wonder if it is actually giving 42 or if it is a tooltip bug

[formal thunder]

tooltip bug probably

[fathom bramble]

not that it would really matter since overcapped cp doesn't do anything

[normal forge]

so u do not use BTE just dispatch and stack cps?

maybe pre-key fuckery?

[formal thunder]

chatgpt just put a stack multiplier at the wrong spot of the tooltip

cause, it doesn't even make sense, if it only consumes 6, why would it give 7x the combo points

[vivid vessel]

you cant have centered growth grps in arcui?

and i have to math out the width height and aspect ratio if i want rectangle ?

[fathom bramble]

we don't need to blame chatgpt for a rudimentary tooltip bug that happens all the time and has happened for like 20 years

[vivid vessel]

and thats the addon everyone uses?

im confused

[fathom bramble]

referencing a number wrongly on a stacking spell tooltip is so insanely common

[formal thunder]

aye, I'm joking. Though, tbf, nothing on that tooltip should be interacting with the stack count in the first place

[normal forge]

maybe less ocd

[vivid vessel]

what ocd i cant even have centered growth

and

idk

a smaller second bar

and like idk

rectangles icons

[past falcon]

u can make more groups

[vivid vessel]

i dont want that tho

[past falcon]

but ya its kinda barbaric

[vivid vessel]

idk its kinda crazy

this addon seems to have a billions options

and yet

you cant do shit with it

idk maybe im crazy

the fall off from weak aura is crazy bro

[normal forge]

i can feel zac joy is greatly reduced lately

[vivid vessel]

whjatever bro

im stopping here

this will be my ui for midnight

[fathom bramble]

I mean yeah midnight uis are doomed

everyone has a "this works" ui

and not one that is actually any good

[vivid vessel]

everything that i want is possible tho

why is there not a single clean addon

fuck bro

[normal forge]

need more RTB icons

[untold wadi]

the "reverse naowh"

[normal forge]

zac is live

[copper radish]

Wide screen ahhhhh cdm

[hasty warren]

[wooden pilot]

bro really cooked

[ionic citrus]

"This application encoutered an error"

[south scaffold]

hey guys, how is outlaw feeling atm leveling and in hc dungeons? lmao 😄

[fathom bramble]

they don't let me in heroic dungeons

[glass mortar]

levelings been fine so far, BF feels as awkward as it ever did prior to UHUH and we are noticably weaker/slower then we were in tww leveling

but its not too bad (i only had time to get to 85 before bed last night unfort)

[fathom bramble]

prep is almost mandatory for the prey system

if you don't have AR up and get ambushed you will just die

[glass mortar]

when can you start using prey, is it a max level only thing?

[fathom bramble]

I think it's post-campaign, but I didn't start it until max

[glass mortar]

honestly my tools vs rares have felt so ass so far

but every rare ive fought has had like 10 other people at it so

hard to really stress test solo playability

[fathom bramble]

these things have been a life saver

increased by vers and our talent

also perfidious projector is nice if you have one

salhadaar trinket

[glass mortar]

i just want work to be done so i can go home

[jolly geyser]

just leave

[fathom bramble]

you can also consider using blackjack

just turn blind into an extra defensive

[glass mortar]

vs mobs ccable

are the prey bosses ccable?

[fathom bramble]

yeah

most rares are

prey bosses are

[glass mortar]

they should be if they arent

ok thats good

[fathom bramble]

I had to blind one and stand around waiting for vial to come back up 👌

[glass mortar]

LMAO

sounds about right

[pearl imp]

Anyone have a good combo point tracker addon? Since WA are gone right?

[glass mortar]

!wa

[fathom bramble]

!wang

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Mute Cold Blood sound
• EasyReminders - can show poison reminders outside of instances

[glass mortar]

wangbar

is what alot of us r using

[gaunt phoenix]

bcdm also just has one

and arcui

xd

[fathom bramble]

wangbar is for the people though

[glass mortar]

what lok said

[fathom bramble]

does arcui have good customization on it yet

because wangbar having exactly what I asked for helps it a lot in my book

[gaunt phoenix]

dunno, i dont use arcui

[fathom bramble]

it looks like it can color combo points individually but it's implemented very strangely

you can only do up to 5 different colors 🤔

or 6

base color plus 5 different thresholds

wait no that changed the entire bars color when you hit the threshold

so it can't do what wangbar does for me

[hasty warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C0PN2ymmRo

[nova blaze]

yo is coldblooded killer still bugged ?

[south scaffold]

any good way to see at what RTB stage we are?

[glass mortar]

track the buff, the buff indicator changes based on which stage u are

track it like a proc not a duration bar tho

the duration bar one is more annoying to see imo

[fathom bramble]

uh oh

[copper radish]

Is it the old version or the new one

[glass mortar]

im gunna be mad when its just a clearly superior version to ours

watch her just blade dance around

[fathom bramble]

idk my valeera menu is sick

[glass mortar]

THIRTY YARDS OF ROPE

i love the random ass ability names they give npcs

[fathom bramble]

for some reason whenever you finish a delve it switchs back to showing brann

so you can only check valeera in an active delve at the start

[copper radish]

Maybe it’s an early access thing?

Prob will update on Tuesday

[brittle pelican]

feels good to not have to deal with stealth anymore

[glass mortar]

i wonder if solo checked if the holding BtE optimization is worth with the supercharged bug

[gaunt phoenix]

I did

[glass mortar]

nice

[fathom bramble]

it's our old melee killingspree I think

[fallow canopy]

so. how's outlaw looking?

[south scaffold]

im blind lmao. it looke almost the same, i need to hover my mouse over it and read the tooltip

do anyone have something nice to track that? :E :E :E

[upper hawk]

it looks great at 80 with scaling

[glass mortar]

the amount of dice in the buff changes with each one

[upper hawk]

in a dungeon full of 88's in greens

[glass mortar]

but those r the only ways to track it

u want it in ur tracked buffs not tracked bars

[vivid vessel]

wqeran

rate my ui

[glass mortar]

2.3/10

[vivid vessel]

hmm

ok ok

i will improve

[glass mortar]

4.6/10 actually because its 2X larger then i thought it would be

i expect it to be squished to 1/3rd that size by the time ur done

😠

[vivid vessel]

ye it will'

dw

[covert kestrel]

zac inting his own ui to get people to stop asking him for import codes

the man is living in 3008

[hasty locust]

need cloak in 1000x1000 format

[zinc briar]

9/10 would make bf icon bigger since you have to save 90% energy to keep It up with new slow boring outlaw

[random stirrup]

gonna need the link

[fallow canopy]

is ther a way to set it up to tell what stage of RtB i have?

[quaint mauve]

this is hideous bro

[vivid vessel]

thanks

appreciate it

[ionic citrus]

So now the rule is: never bte right after AR

I love outlaw 🤯

[limpid isle]

the cruel taunting to give the npc rogue the best version of KS. while we sling bullets around aimlessly.

[stuck patrol]

Should we talent into cold blood instead for now?

[ionic citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/loud-noisy-frustrated-covering-ears-headache-gif-15649156

[gaunt phoenix]

No, you still use supercharger

though, 1 supercharger + 2 lethality is very close

[ionic citrus]

Solo... If Im supercharged I want to dispatch with 2cp right?

Btw : max
Dispatch : nope

[gaunt phoenix]

With 2pc? No

[ionic citrus]

2+3... All benefits

[gaunt phoenix]

you finish normally, at 5-7, and it becomes supercharged to 8-10

[ionic citrus]

I'm a bit confused now. In shindig's assa rogue we would use supercharged cps mathematically as normal Cps... 2+3=5 etc.

I was applying the same logic.

[cinder relic]

Yeah but it goes over

[ionic citrus]

I was thinking like... 2 cp + 3 (charged) we get a finish where we get some cp back and a bullet up the sleeve Wich would, In Theory, reset more btes.

[gaunt phoenix]

it's not worth it for outlaw

[fallow canopy]

question. do i need to open up with ambush at alll or does stealht not really play a role in outlaw?

[gaunt phoenix]

for one reason or another

[ionic citrus]

Stealth now makes you transparent.

That's it.

[stuck patrol]

With the bug wouldn't it be even closer, seeing how having only one supercharger would sidestep the bug?

[gaunt phoenix]

perhaps because SC is free you are effectively choosing between an early finish or a late finisher with the same actions

[fallow canopy]

oih okay fine by me

[gaunt phoenix]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2xSroawQi9CwjkwvbfS91c

[gaunt phoenix]

It's close because of the bug

[ionic citrus]

Good to know.

[gaunt phoenix]

it'd be surprised if it's really worth as sin either

[ionic citrus]

So basically now is to hold nothing back but never bte while having 2sc

[ionic citrus]

As a deathstalker I guess u wanted the 3rd finisher asap

[gaunt phoenix]

You should bte at 2sc, just sometimes it will bug out, oh well

[ionic citrus]

For energy gain and other benefits.

[gaunt phoenix]

it's not every time

[wicked grove]

Anyone else feeling squishy in Voidstorm?

[ionic citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-what-psyduck-gif-15677697

[gaunt phoenix]

you said "never bte while having 2sc"

Why

[ionic citrus]

Coz it will steal the possibility of the second sc?

It's not always but why risk it?

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah, that's only if the apex procs

[patent mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[ionic citrus]

I'd dispatch right after AR rebuild 6cps and guarantee a bte without bugging any of my sc

Just a thought

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah, it's an interesting thought, but that's also not worth it

[patent mirage]

just do what solo tells you bro

[ionic citrus]

But wait. That means that even bugged we hold bte?

[patent mirage]

he knows what he is sayingh

[ionic citrus]

I'm stretching his brain

[gaunt phoenix]

no, you are allowed to question me

[ionic citrus]

I'll end up doing what he says

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah, there is still the optimization to hold bte for supercharger

[ionic citrus]

So hold bte and pray for no bug.

Sound about wow.

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah, but it's worth a whole 1% dps

Maybe not praying over that

[ionic citrus]

But in the pin it says this removes the 1% gain of holding bte right?

This: the bug

[gaunt phoenix]

even if it does bug out, the main thing is that you consumed a fat Zero In with SC active

that's still true

so the first stack of SC is more impactful than the second

[ionic citrus]

Got it

[proven ocean]

outlaws

grats on being nominated

for the worst spec in midnight straight out of wow's biggester's cooking pot

!

[ionic citrus]

I refuse to believe the spec is going to suck.

[thorn parrot]

Even if it does I'll still get fun orange and purple numbers

[ionic citrus]

I believe there is easier classes and specs to play...but it played right...out has to worth it's price.

[storm hemlock]

has sprint always been 8 seconds? It feels shorter but I havent played in a while

[ionic citrus]

Bro... I managed to finish a HOA 19 with 70% sprint uptime.

Feels like playing a diferent game

Everything moves so fkn fast all the time

[snow sparrow]

Is there something I am just completely missing here, or is the energy economy just down in the dumps on outlaw pre-90????? Is it gonna get better with final apex and some haste? 💀

[ionic citrus]

Can't go back.

[gaunt phoenix]

you do need haste, and tier and apex does help energy a ways

[ionic citrus]

You'll need the haste ring asap lmao

[cinder relic]

When r u gonna move on

[cinder relic]

As u level ur getting less haste, and u want like 25%

It felt mostly fine even in the follower dungeons but it does get rough at times

[snow sparrow]

I'm mostly feeling fine, but as soon as it's a bit of an extended fight, I just end up sludging through a swamp at the end

[cinder relic]

Like I said, gets better with apex and actual optimize haste on gear

[ionic citrus]

If you are getting starved on AOE constantly it's probably flurry being used wrongly

Every 3 or 4 finishers flurry grants a full cp finisher.

I've seen ppl ps over flurry a ton of times.

Btw this spell went from the worst fuckin button to press to the 'oh boy it's flurry time ' button

[glacial sluice]

is there a way to macro blade rush and ss into the same button? I almost got it but struggling after the first cast of ss after br

[gaunt phoenix]

nop

[glacial sluice]

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=1 Blade Rush, Sinister Strike

works for 1 rotation then breaks

[ionic citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[ionic citrus]

Yeah...

[brisk meadow]

[ionic citrus]

Now imagine this

You are pressing ur macro...u need to get out of a AOE on the ground... Ur blade rush brings you back flying to the dangerous zone

Blade rush on CD yes but not always lmao

[glacial sluice]

if I'm getting out of the AoE I'm likely not sinister striking either since I'm gtfo

[glacial sluice]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ah-59

[ionic citrus]

Well tell that to your queued spell

[ionic citrus]

Want a dirty solution?

Dirty dirty dirty?

So dirty pigs will avoid eating by your side?

You can always download GSE and make a macro of blade rush and SS...

But you didn't get this from me.

[glacial sluice]

never heard of gse

just figure if im in a position to press sinister strike, im probably in a position to cast blade rush

[ionic citrus]

Research it... It's a monstrosity.

But it will help ya

[glacial sluice]

worst case scenario, killing spree 2.0

[ionic citrus]

Worst case scenario your raid leader asks you to heartstone

[glacial sluice]

uh huh

[brisk meadow]

you wont get in the raid since you're outlaw in the first place

[ionic citrus]

Shhh... Don't say things like these.

[glacial sluice]

how outdated is fuu's sims?

[storm hemlock]

underhanded upper hand made my brain smooth I swear

[glacial sluice]

if outlaw is that far ahead, definitely gonna be outlaw for raid I assume

[random stirrup]

[glacial sluice]

burst windows/etc be damned

[ionic citrus]

Dps in top 500 guilds is like running from a bear against your fat friend. You don't have to be fast. You just have to be faster than the fat one.

Same goes for your bad dps friends

[glacial sluice]

i dont remember that outlaw chat being this weird

[brisk meadow]

huh

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

we have solo to drip feed us glimmers of hope

and tom & jerry perma dooming

and guy being here

[wintry solar]

just ignore all bad news and take all good news to heart

ezpz

[ancient cobalt]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cinder relic]

It really hasn't always been

But here we are

[ancient cobalt]

yaa its got a culture in here now..

[ionic citrus]

Ok...more class tuning...

Wtf is going on?

[wintry solar]

rogue before dk?

[snow viper]

Haha, I'm leveling a hunter

[ionic citrus]

Just kidding boys

No tuning until 17 February

[fathom bramble]

any other delvers?

[ionic citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-disbelief-what-huh-gif-15892515

[ancient cobalt]

porque

[mystic berry]

I am offended

[ancient cobalt]

ooo i guess if u leveling other characters in delve her level will get high ahhh..

[ionic citrus]

Please don't tell me I have to level up my delve companion to complete 11s

[ancient cobalt]

oh whos the delve boss like kyveza

is that a thing

was so fun to do before the m+ week

[cinder relic]

Some void dude

[fathom bramble]

what I'm doing is much stupider than that

tier 7 delves can drop 224 items

and 227 warbound items

I'm also just actually having fun speed running Atal'Aman

which is probably the most important part

[ancient cobalt]

thats sick actually

[fathom bramble]

if your atal'aman is on story variant: Ritual interrupted you can do it very fast as a stealth class

all the cages can be openned from stealth and it has no kill requirement

[ancient cobalt]

is it a daily or weekly change for the variant

[fathom bramble]

no idea

it also might be per person

a druid I was trying to help do this has the wrong variant for some reason

[balmy topaz]

Which one is this?

Like on the map