outlaw

[glass mortar]

i thought distances to targets just calculated from the edge of their hitbox

[frail veldt]

lol who knows

[glass mortar]

i dont think the tech exists in this came to calculate damage beyond melee vs not in melee

[frail veldt]

KS put you inside of mobs

[glass mortar]

yea true

[frail veldt]

and not on the edge of them

so idk

shits jank

[frail veldt]

I mean wihtin that calculation it has to exist

inherently

so maybe it wouldnt be that hard

but tbh

thats sometihng blizzard would fuck up

where some mob with a "slam" animation

like takes less damage

[glass mortar]

well sure im just saying

[frail veldt]

cuz its in the air

or some bullshit

[glass mortar]

im not sure the game has the tech to tell a distance under 0

and im pretty sure it just reads zero

if ur in melee range

[frail veldt]

but yeah cooked idea the forums are wild

[glass mortar]

its just funny

"proximity based burst damage"

so like 99% of melee specs in the game

got it

🫡

[wintry solar]

Hot

Ever play Ark?

[copper radish]

When do we get that change

[copper radish]

Nah never

[wintry solar]

The "inside of mobs" I turned into a sex joke

[wintry solar]

Don't, it's such a good game

While also being the worst

You should get it when it's on sale

[frail veldt]

Does anyone know if you can import/export your arcui layout to other characters?

[rotund cloud]

hypothetical i keep running into and don't know what to do. i read somewhere finish 6+ with trickster. when I end up on 5, do i SS and possibly overcap cp and then finish or just accept the 5 finish

[gaunt phoenix]

You ss

Or bf/ps if they have priority

[hasty warren]

even at 5 ?

[formal thunder]

yes, even then, though it shouldn't happen often that ps/bf are higher priority at that moment.

BF could have come off cd during the global after your first builder, and in 4+ targets it's highest priority spender due to damage.

If played correctly, if you're at 5 combo points you shouldn't be at 6 Opportunity stacks to make it higher prio than SS either, since you probably started out at 1 combo point from previous finisher and used PS to get to 5. I think there is the edge case of getting lucky and getting Ace+2CP Ruthlessness to 4 and then getting unlucky and only get 1 CP of SS if at RtB1, but that's like 3 different procs and having low rolled on current RtB, so pretty rare

Maybe disregard last part, might be wrong on Ruthlessness, not sure

[rotund cloud]

good enough for me, thanks pals ❤️

[undone notch]

Is dagger offhand gonna be best for midnight?

[wintry solar]

Yeah

[undone notch]

Better poison procs, faster melee talent building

[wintry solar]

!oh

[ornate heath]

A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of Zero In, and also slightly more Instant Poison procs. Energy is not affected by offhand speed.

It is possible large ilvl differences can matter more than this bonus so use Raidbots Top Gear when in doubt.

[undone notch]

Alr thanks!

[rotund cloud]

one more question for you. hypothetically: i'm at 7cp, AR just came off CD but i've got KS and BTE up. do I dump AR and lose the cp so i can keep the cooldown ticking or do i dump a finisher and miss the cd regen but get the AR cp's

[formal thunder]

in that situation BTE>AR>KS

[rotund cloud]

hmm ok ok i appreciate that thank you!

[formal thunder]

BTE is highest priority finisher, so takes precedent over KS

since, if I'm thinking about this correctly, you don't really "lose" any CDR on AR by doing this, you're just delaying it by 1 gcd

[rotund cloud]

yeah i guess that's true

[formal thunder]

you lose out on more CDR by wasting those 5-6 CPs from AR the other way around

[rotund cloud]

checks out, i'm just thinking about it wrongly makes sense

[formal thunder]

since, unless you have BF ready in AoE, you're spending 2-3 gcds building CPs for your next finisher then

[rotund cloud]

okay that leads me again here. for the last few expacs i've always just played hidden opportunity. i should just remove my ss/ambush macro and never open with it?

[glass mortar]

as long as you arent talenting HO (which we will not be doing without tuning to the talent) you do not ever want to press ambush

[gaunt phoenix]

ur macro should have [known: hidden opportunity]

[glass mortar]

so id remove the macro from your bars at the least yes

[gaunt phoenix]

but yea HO is currently pretty far behind

[glass mortar]

but also what solo said, assuming ur using the HO macro from in here

then itll work just fine because u arent talented into its conditional

[rotund cloud]

its a /cast [stance:1/2/3] Ambush

so every time from stealth lol

[glass mortar]

delet

[rotund cloud]

and i've got ghostly strike still macro'd in everywhere so thats not doing much either

bless you guys

[undone notch]

Is there any use case for Shiv/Toxic Stiletto at all?

A 10 energy +1cp ability doesn't seem awful but also like... super niche for 2 tp

And the damage is ass

:(

[frail veldt]

I think you answered your question

[undone notch]

Surely it's good sometimes, right?

I will soon be found dead in my home from a copium overdose

[fossil lintel]

Did they remove the free sockets on neck/ring from midnight? Damn there goes my jewel crafting plans

[undone notch]

TBH I wish stiletto also buffed Gouge in some way/made gouge a buff to shiv

[frail veldt]

what is stilleto

[undone notch]

Like, casting gouge casting a free shiv or whatever, would give both more use cases

[frail veldt]

this is outlaw

[undone notch]

Lemme cope

It would be cool

[frail veldt]

brother haha

[undone notch]

I want some kinda utility lmao

[fossil lintel]

Make sap relevant again

[undone notch]

Give us back smokebomb

[frail veldt]

truuuu

[undone notch]

Trust

[frail veldt]

remember when we used to sap a target

before the pull

and it mattered

rememeber when we used to cc a mob

and avoid hitting it

to help deal with the pack

crazy times

[undone notch]

Guess you just Cheap Shot opener instead IDK

[frail veldt]

lul imagine

[fossil lintel]

Yeah, bring back cc every pack

Instantly kill m+

Mewo did you test in beta?

Did every ring / neck drop with 1 socket already?

[frail veldt]

I did not do beta keys nah

is that a new thing

kinda nice

[fossil lintel]

Yeah but it seems the item that added sockets to jewelry is gone

It drops by default with 1 slot it seems

Just looking for someone who can confirm

[quaint mauve]

yk midnight is growing on me

i still feel slow but like

it is what it is

[cinder relic]

Welcome

[quaint mauve]

what rank ru in deadlock

im eternus 2 but my chud ass character is holding me back i swear

[cinder relic]

E5

I hover between E6 and E5

I only play calico rn lol

[cinder relic]

She lowkey shit but shes so fun

[craggy barn]

i havent touched rank at all 🙂

big wraith fan tho

[cinder relic]

THeres only ranked lol

do U mean, brawl?

[craggy barn]

i mean i literally havent touched normal game mode in a while

ive only really been playing brawl since it came out

[cinder relic]

Valid

[craggy barn]

i cba potentially proccing a 1 hour game

last time i did a normal game, i played with a bunch of my noob friends, and it was like an hour game where we won bc i was giga fed as 7

[cinder relic]

Yeah I have to make a 2nd account

with everybody learning the game

cant play with friends

[craggy barn]

im not even good, it was a shitter lobby

though they had a holiday who didnt die at all

i was in a full 6 stack with 4 noobs

[cinder relic]

I'm legit the 2nd highest rank so like

Brawl still has MMR

So like I played a bunch with friends

[craggy barn]

i dont even know what my mmr is

[cinder relic]

but they are like "Bro these games are so fucking hard"

Cuz ppl just fly

[craggy barn]

oh im archon 2

damn i cant snoop my friendslist ranks

god i spent all day writing stupid boolean logic code

[frail veldt]

isnt it only ranked?

[craggy barn]

idfk man i dont pay attention to that shit

[quaint mauve]

dishonest character

compared to my honest holliday

[lone nebula]

!up

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1463210920976056351/dark.jpg

[cinder relic]

LMFAOOO

Calico is too damn honest

[craggy barn]

idk turns into a cat, can go underground and be weird

is a hitman

botched the pocket job

[unborn verge]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[pure folio]

did u play when she was op asf before the spirit nerfs

very disgusting

[cinder relic]

The investment nerfs you mean?

Or b4 then

Ive been spamming calico since like, the shop update

I used to play pocket and paratdox and then idk what happened

I just started maining calico

I just love cat form, and her ult

[pure folio]

oh yea u have been, it was like around october before the spirit item nerfs she was actually just op

yea her cat form is what made me main her for a while, i really enjoy that +fortitude and just being on the map perma

[cinder relic]

U dont even go fort anymore

U kinda need every damage item lol

ABL has a build rn with lifestrike I've been jamming, it feels solid with investment

Cuz like the normal build always feels super shit to get investment on

and lifestrike got giga buffed a bit ago so its kinda thanos rn

[pure folio]

yea i have played like two games as her since then tbh, what do u think about gun calico

ik wander plays it

[pure folio]

yea that item on silver is so fun

[cinder relic]

I like it because it lets u put points in cat

but I never play it tbh

I always just play the generic spirit stuff

but now I do like, lifestrike, fleet foot, for green
cold front, imp spirit, burst, spirit strike for purple
Backstabber hunters aura for orange

then just buy the bullshit, torment pulse

I swear by eshift

Item is so broken

I feel like the backstabber/hunters aura shit is mega larp idk

but both eido and abl do it so

Been trying it

[pure folio]

eido is not a trustable source most the time i feel like 😭 he even says on stream "this build is so ass" and publishes it anyways

i thought backstabber was like one of the worst items rn wr wise i could be wrong

i personally hate that item

[cinder relic]

I hated the item when I started playing her, but I feel like without a gun item ur literally tickle monster POV to camps

[pure folio]

monster rounds op

especially with rem every game

hate that thing

[cinder relic]

Yeah true maybe its just monster rounds

Also they high key gotta kill stam matery

Literally every character is flying around with this item

[pure folio]

seems like they perform somewhat similarly for calico

[pure folio]

this is a very based take ngl

but it feels so shit to play without it

[cinder relic]

I get deadlock is a movement game

But like bro its so stupid

Literally half the good characters in pubs are just fly hacking with this item now

Apollo, celeste, lash, mina, silver, pocket, paradox, paige

Like fuck off and get a job

I'm literally about to start buying it on calico as core item atp, it's way too hard to actually catch ppl

[pure folio]

i mean without it 2 stam characters and those dash moves are so easy to pick

like paige i feel like kinda needs it

but yea that item on character with already insane mobility like celeste is ridiculous

[cinder relic]

It feels like it takes mobile characters, to actually noclip, and characters that are "meant to be balanced around low mobility" can also just fly

Idk how I feel abt it

I mean they just nerfed the air dash bonus ug et from the item

So they gotta keep doing that until its less like

Bro I'm leaving laning phase vs people rushing the item

Like its gotta go somewhat

[unborn verge]

!ui

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Mute Cold Blood sound
• EasyReminders - can show poison reminders outside of instances

[pure folio]

dont know how u can prevent them from flying with that item without just gutting it

[hasty warren]

Hi pirates

[frank finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe46vHcLec0

[desert tendon]

petko

[frank finch]

he kinda spoke facts

nothing new that the game tends to skew towards ranged the higher you go but atm its really bad

[mighty pivot]

3-4 weeks of tier list spam left

[potent ore]

Do we still have aoe blind in midnight ?

[real mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-meeting2-hmm-meeting-hmm-pepe-pepe-meeting-gif-18064240235739253690

[warped pasture]

Is there a good roll the bones / buff tracker out there? 🙌🏻

[patent mirage]

tbh you dont really need one

[hasty warren]

he said buff outlaw

[hasty warren]

yes the tooltip is broken

[hasty warren]

depend on what u mean by good. I'm using ArcUI bar for it.

[pastel sierra]

I just have the normal buff tracker displaying the icon

[plucky wasp]

you get 16s cd on aoe blind with 30% dmg and healing nerf for affected mobs 6s afterwards?! Why is this never a topic on all the content creators bashing rogue utility.
Isnt this very big especially on high keys where you can debuff whole packs with 30% dmg nerf every single pull??

even multiple times during one pack

[frank finch]

cuz u need tricks

[plucky wasp]

you dont really need tricks for the tank to get aggro I assume

[frank finch]

playing outlaw yeah

legit dps increase

[plucky wasp]

even if this is a minor dps increase, the utility you can bring to the table is way better when high dmg can kill the whole grp. But I might be wrong

[frank finch]

its not minor tho

idk how its going to play out in this new version of the game

but

in tww u need tricks as outlaw or ur just afk al the time

ur have warr level aggro problems

[astral wind]

Yeah the icon itself for the buff

[plucky wasp]

we dont have the big burst when coming out of stealth due to crackshot beeing removed

our dmg profile is pretty flat

[frank finch]

this is true and tank agrro got buffed (i think)

[pastel sierra]

In good groups you should be able to drop tricks i think, esp if youre not playing trickster

Being able to aggro accidental pulls into the tank is pretty good for random groups tho

Like before the new mobs start killing your group you tricks the tank, attack the new mobs and tank has aggro

[frank finch]

i assume your going to be able to use blackjack alot more in midnight

[plucky wasp]

It is just mindboggling to me that rogue has a 30% nerf for mass aoe with an possible uptime of 37,5%

thats insanely good in my eyes

[untold wadi]

how does it work against mobs that can't be blinded

usually the ones doing big dam, like the divine toll things in priory

[plucky wasp]

I guess it wont have any effect on them. Would be interesting to see if the majority can be debbufed. Never heard anyone talking about rogue utility mentioning this ability usage

[lethal oak]

I thought we lost AoE blind, am I trippin?

[wintry solar]

Yes

[hasty warren]

omg it's popo

[untold wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

we never lost it

[uneven prairie]

Hey guys, i am new to the spec so i use the one button rota helper just to check the priority. Can anyone tell me why the assist offers me to use wound poisen in some aoe scenarios instead of insta poison?

[untold wadi]

wound is only for mobs with healing u wanna reduce, such as that mob before last boss in hoa, otherwise keep instant on

[glass mortar]

It was removed from tooltip of the talent

It still gives it tho (it never stopped)

Blizzard has not clarified but the assumption right now is it'd definitly NOT a bug and intended and stop talking about it

[hasty warren]

omg my addon have been approved by curseforge

[drifting depot]

Is there a way to make roll the bones results more visible? I guess weakauras could have done it before but idk how it is rn

Also a spec noob, loving it so far though!

[covert kestrel]

Are you tracking the buff in cdm?

[drifting depot]

I haven’t dabbled in it yet but if it works I’ll definitely check it out today and ask again if I can’t figure it out

Thx

[wintry solar]

What what what is it

[hasty warren]

idk if self promotion is allowed here

and it's a bit shameful xd

[wintry solar]

It's not if someone asks

True story

[hasty warren]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/raidcohesiontool

It's a joke addon inspired by a WA we had for years

[wintry solar]

That's awesome

And frankly, peak

[hasty warren]

ty popo

[wintry solar]

I won't download it for another week though. My work week just started

[hasty warren]

just before midnight ? it's rough

[wintry solar]

Probably day of tbh

Naw that's a lie. Before the 27th for sure

And before the 2nd

[untold wadi]

aprov

[zinc briar]

Lets goooo

We are gonna be the worst dps in raid one more timeeeee

Hahahahaha

[untold wadi]

confirmed as true (fact checked for security)

[civic zephyr]

i have question, is it worth letting this buff ever stack high or do i just spam BtE's off cooldown regardless of how many stacks it has?

[gaunt phoenix]

for now we dont track it

i tried some things but couldnt get anywhere

[civic zephyr]

ahh ok so its just something nice that happens in the background

[zinc briar]

Lets start the season with 0 hype

For being the worst dps of raid like last season

[civic zephyr]

ok i was jw if it were similar to like Furys Bloodcraze where ideally you'd want 4/5 stacks before hitting it

[zinc briar]

Hahahaha

[civic zephyr]

thanks for answer

[gaunt phoenix]

it's hard to hold stuff as outlaw cause you will lose cdr

the gain has to be a lot to outweigh that

[zinc briar]

Was going to buy the Epic edition to play the game 3 days before but since Rogue is the worst class by far ...

[glass mortar]

hard to play around a buff that ironfurs as well

i imagine shenangins might be more possible if the buff simply refreshed duration

that would also probably be a disaster tho

[bright plaza]

rogues down BAD

[copper radish]

Ends TWW at the bottom…. Starts Midnight at the bottom…. Well boys you know what that means? ONLY UP FROM HERE

[wintry solar]

Gonna go ahead and tempt fate

It can't get any worse from here

[glass mortar]

guys has anyone seen zac since his mute

i felt like whispyr was awfully restrained with it only being 30 minutes

can zac survive without typing in outlaw discord at 5000 apm for 30 minutes tho?

[gaunt phoenix]

he's free

[mighty pivot]

zac probably went and made pasta with ketchup after the incident

[glass mortar]

in a microwave (the only real way to make pastas)

[mighty pivot]

you know... he would do that yes

[zenith ibex]

anyone know how to unfuck the personal resource display?

[vivid vessel]

i was making pastas

[glass mortar]

Holy

[mighty pivot]

called it

[glass mortar]

@mighty pivot is in ur walls

[keen belfry]

What’s pastas

Are u making different types of pasta

[mystic berry]

My friends are telling me to reroll, its tough being outlaw

[untold wadi]

!rtb reroll

[ornate heath]

How to use RTB
(Assuming season 3 tier and Supercharger)

• Roll if you have 0 or 1 buffs.
• Roll if you have 2 buffs and Loaded Dice is active.
• Roll once asap after pressing KIR, as your buffs don't get rolled away. Use this weakaura to see when your buffs don't get rolled away (yellow border).
• After the KIR roll, continue to watch the weakaura as buffs tick down. As your buffs expire you may hit a point where your remaining buffs are yellow and you can roll again.

[fervent garden]

life's tough. buck up camper

[untold wadi]

woww no gamba

[mighty pivot]

find new friends

[glass mortar]

yea we can be ur friends

you should reroll

how am i doing

[mighty pivot]

you could be outlaw's dev

[fervent garden]

there's a dev?

[glass mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/letterkenny-allegedly-gif-10608199

[gaunt phoenix]

devoker

[mystic berry]

Great

[glass mortar]

you should play whatever your heart desires 🥰

|| as long as its not OUTLAW!||

[copper radish]

Devourer looking hot

[fervent garden]

a great Outlaw beats a mediocre meta flavor of the week spec all day long. learn your craft!

[random stirrup]

feel like im holding a devious bag waiting for zac to make new ui for me to rob

making own ui

[glass mortar]

i spent like 10 minutes trying to make a ui and got frustrated by how user unfriendly and ugly everything is compared to my UI in pandaria wow classic with WA

and just stopped

honestly i was planning to play the game semi casually until my sub expires but it might just be curtains for me its wild to pull something like this so obviously unprepared

or if not unprepared its just embarassing for a company idk

[gaunt phoenix]

i feel like there's a good enough selection of addons

[hardy vault]

this is the way

[near rock]

im goin default UI, zero addons

[fervent garden]

gotta use the Wanger

[near rock]

what is the wanger

[glass mortar]

if blizzards intention was removing the need for addons and they were going to break everyones uis so much "get new addons to fix it" is not an appropriate fix

it is a valid one, its just even more embarassing for blizzard

so much nonsense with this expac just makes me never want to give a company money idk

[fervent garden]

wangbar. check CurseForge. energy CP tracker

[near rock]

nah default is good enuf for me

[random stirrup]

ive been using it for 3? 4? tiers at this point and I don't want to swap

[hardy vault]

i'm using aui

and so happy that the ui basically looks the same

so my eyes don't have to readjust looking at new stuff

[fervent garden]

thought about AUI...

[hardy vault]

it's just sad some of the spices are gone

[hardy vault]

well i can go voice chat rq and stream dummy with it

so you see if it works for you

[gaunt phoenix]

their intent was not usurp the need to use addons at all though

[glass mortar]

their initial wording made it seem like it was tho

[gaunt phoenix]

imo the only thing that is irrevocably fucked is Details

[hardy vault]

poor details

[gaunt phoenix]

but most of the rest you can still use plater etc.

[vivid vessel]

i mean the intent was that addons wouldnt give advantage

but they still do

[gaunt phoenix]

and then the whole thing about the CDM is because weakauras decided to discontinue itself

[vivid vessel]

and honestly

kinda the same way as before

[vivid vessel]

well there is no way to have weak aura working the same way as before tho

90% of things wouldnt work

[livid trench]

So is blizzards damage meter the only option now? I’ve still had my details on but it’s been buggy as hell

[glass mortar]

details just skins over blizzards damage meter was my understanding

its throttled by blizzard damage meter not giving any of the info details used to give

(And it cant just get that info because its no longer available)

[gaunt phoenix]

yeah, i just mean having to use different addons for resource and cdm

[random stirrup]

logmasters rise

[vivid vessel]

ye but its not like weak aura could continue tho

i wish an addon existed that kinda reused the front end of weak aua

cause its very good

but

its kinda fucked

[glass mortar]

it coulda it would have just been making a new addon called WA that was completely different and i assume the addon maker didnt wanna bother with all that

[livid trench]

Ahh makes sense, well hoping blizzard gives their meter more functionality as they continue to iterate

[gaunt phoenix]

weakauras COULD do what wangbar and bcdm are doing combined surely

[vivid vessel]

ye but thats just a new addon tho

you can create buttons for cds, that are kinda fucked and also cant have conditions on them

you cant do the same for buffs

energy is secret so similarly cant have conditions on it

cps is fine tho

[glass mortar]

they should hide energy from us too

if energy is so secret

😠

[vivid vessel]

and if its an addon that moves cdm things around

its like

so vastly different from what weak aura did

you could kinda replace old weak aura functions that tracked cds rn

but its secret

so you have to recode everything

[glass mortar]

i just want my old FtH WA

[vivid vessel]

its half bugged

and you cant have conditons

on stuffs

[glass mortar]

with two seperate fancy glowy indicators above my character

[vivid vessel]

so

[glass mortar]

for how many bullets i had

🥹

just like my classic wow WAs

[vivid vessel]

i mean you could do that

just have to code some stuffs

[hardy vault]

@fervent garden this is what it looks like in combat

i wish opportunity was bigger

[glass mortar]

i should not need to code for the basic "you have a proc" glow indicator to function properly for my class in a subscription video game

its an embarassment

pathetic company 😠

[vivid vessel]

:D

[glass mortar]

im not even gunna blame the devs

this sounds like some obvious board decision "we are gunna make it so people dont need addons and simplify the game!!!010101!!"

and then u need to do it regardless of how shit it ends up before release

no moving timelines or adjusting expectations

just make the game playable with all this dog and release, we can fix it later

its an exhausting design process that too many game companies use

[random stirrup]

but they did move the timeline

to a full expac earlier

[glass mortar]

tru

[vivid vessel]

i mean they wont fix anything tho

what we have rn

[keen belfry]

https://imgur.com/EVRehLn

[vivid vessel]

im pretty sure is what we will have still in 2 expacs

[glass mortar]

yea only time will tell ig

[vivid vessel]

addons will just get better to fill the void

[glass mortar]

maybe i come back s2 and see what its like

[hardy vault]

good one

[keen belfry]

1am xpac fixes us

[glass mortar]

and if no fixes theywill finally have fully lost my interest

[fervent garden]

Cool. appreciate it.

[keen belfry]

what if the xpac after 1am xpac is called bar close

wouldnt that be abanger

[glass mortar]

awanger

[hardy vault]

https://tenor.com/view/im-having-a-connection-issue-gif-18822004

this gotta be my fav

the amount of times this was spammed on community project discord servers

[glass mortar]

https://imgur.com/E9ZsiA8

omg i still have it

it was broken last time i tried to find it

[hardy vault]

yeah we talked about that in subtlety

that looks awesome

[random stirrup]

@keen belfry drop the one of the flame vent in workshop turning to you

that one is the goat

[glass mortar]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/Fgfo1l3tWSd7WA1uzE/giphy.mp4?cid=73b8f7b11092ab0710653beae67535de0c9517d4aa90a786&rid=giphy.mp4&ct=g

[random stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449080055893590017/1278016827951157309/test23456.gif

[hardy vault]

was about to post that one

[frail veldt]

I think the addon change that annoys me the most right now is the damage meter. If I want to test talents and see how hard abilities are hitting I literally have to go to wclogs every time

So stupid

[glass mortar]

god i wish i still had my gif of our rdruid on sylvanas prog

who bugged the platforms in p3 in travel form

and was just getting nonstop sent back and forth

unable to escape

we lost a pull to it

[random stirrup]

https://imgur.com/hYeI19O

[ashen void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055196260329590874/1320668978732859402/big2.gif

[hardy vault]

what to do until next week now btw

tired of league

didnt start tbc

[vivid vessel]

whats next week

[glass mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/782985651150651412/1346984406908141609/ezgif-5e6f7bb7ccd5c1.gif

[hardy vault]

hopefully a good questing experience into a weekend of grinding leather for me

[hot olive]

lvl up

[vivid vessel]

ah true

fuck

i dont wanna level up 5 chars

@keen belfry can you level them up for me

[random stirrup]

i simply cannot wait to level my first guy and have fun and then want to blow up levelling the last 8

[vivid vessel]

8?

tf

[keen belfry]

which one i show u 2 now

[random stirrup]

i like being a self sufficient crafter guy

[nova sinew]

love this one

[random stirrup]

cba asking other people to do stuff

[hardy vault]

there's gonna be some cheeky way to level characters giga fast again, just like in tww

[random stirrup]

so i do all profs and every character also has alchemy obv

[keen belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1393269994623860887/nah.gif

[nova sinew]

LMAO

[vivid vessel]

have a guild noob

[glass mortar]

it knows what u did

😠

[hardy vault]

i'll do leatherworking this go around

[random stirrup]

i do but then they gotta be online and around

fk that

i do it myself

[hardy vault]

hopefully i can actually do something with it

and not just waste my money on it

[glass mortar]

yea i also usually do all my own proff stuff

[keen belfry]

its happened twice to me

[glass mortar]

the concentration system is so goated for solo crafting

[random stirrup]

yeah nah this has gotta be the goat

[glass mortar]

keeps everything cheap and lets u max out stuff without being sweaty

[random stirrup]

nothing beating this

[random stirrup]

plus when i decide to recraft and swap all my embellishments and secondaries for 0.1% on week 10 of the season i can do it fast and quick

[glass mortar]

yup

[hardy vault]

THAT is my motivation too

[glass mortar]

my hunters is my lw/skinner, monk bs/herb, rogue engi/mining and evoker is enchant/inscrip

[hardy vault]

thats crazy

no druid for gathering profs

[glass mortar]

the new system makes it so easy to barely engage with crafting but still have what u need to gear up ur guys for cheap

my druid was double gathering but i havent played it in a few expacs

[keen belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1401910605388189766/noway.gif

[glass mortar]

not seriously enough to level proffs on it anyway

i guess it is max

[hardy vault]

i leveled a worgen druid especially for doing skinning recently

[keen belfry]

@random stirrup @nova sinew

[hardy vault]

because i really wanna use my early access this time

[glass mortar]

the new races druid forms look sick too... theres a lot of good looking shit in midnight

makes me so sad that i have no desire to play it

because of all the other shit

[random stirrup]

literally all my characters that i reasonably might ever play in keys have alch, so its like rogue1 = leather rogue2 = mail (easier to max out knowledge like this even tho both lw) mage = cloth dh = jc spriest = bs weapons dk = bs plate

and then druid inscription i think

something like that

[hardy vault]

yeah idk alch is like almost a must have

[keen belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1412315455472930886/Medal_mka6GOctSE.gif

i love gifs

so much

[hardy vault]

i'll have to get a 3rd char for bs/jc tho ig

[patent mirage]

the only gif you need is from icc

hunter using disengage after valkyrie

[hardy vault]

so rogue lw/alch; druid skinning/mining; class xyz bs/jc

[random stirrup]

ya i cba with gathering tho never gonna sit there and do that

[hardy vault]

idk what else should i do during early access

my hope is to just sit in a 2x4 leathergrp all weekend

[keen belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1394378137856639108/firefox_7KNxrdd1FK.gif

[random stirrup]

this was sad before but now it just makes me miss pre midnight outlaw

[hardy vault]

i must say i kinda miss crackshot already

idk what to think about rtb yet

[keen belfry]

new rtb is good

[hardy vault]

yeah it's very chill

[keen belfry]

but everything else?

very bad

[hardy vault]

one question tho actually, just thought about it again

[keen belfry]

ok you only get the one question

only one

[random stirrup]

i will just miss the container system and barely making it to kir

[patent mirage]

give a few months in and you will get used to it

[unborn verge]

!ui

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Mute Cold Blood sound
• EasyReminders - can show poison reminders outside of instances

[keen belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1394379209908031578/Medal_IpVnizF6js.gif

[hardy vault]

can i manipulate loaded dice to give me max rolls always

or is there just an inevitable you'll end up at a 1 roll

because that's kinda what's happening to me

[random stirrup]

see where are you ever gonna get this level of dopamine from a midnight spec

there is nothing

[keen belfry]

depends on build, but basically with prep/kir you will always have 2+ buff USUALLU

[patent mirage]

rc dust was the shit

[hardy vault]

is there a build with KiR in aoe?

[keen belfry]

yeah

the awang build

[hardy vault]

i meant prep+kir btw

[keen belfry]

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-calc/rogue/outlaw/fatebound/EAORFRUVRUVUVZiBRCUENRFVVVVQVFVYEdBEFFVVVUBV

based on vibes of this buiuld i will probably jhust play it if its within a percent

i also think prep has more dmg than the sim will tell you

just cuz dmg amps, important mobs, flexibility etc

[hardy vault]

prep still kinda throws me off

[glass mortar]

i mean idk about more damage but more useful maybe

[hardy vault]

like it feels odd for outlaw

but i think it's gonna be a cool button

[glass mortar]

its unlikely ineffiencently moving AR to be at an important point in a fight is more dps then getting additional ARs

but its value is so small regardless thats prob the best way to use it ye

[keen belfry]

im just thinking like algethar

first pull, dmg amp boss, etc

fikrst pull cooked regardless

[hardy vault]

oh no being target capped for that pull

i didn't think of that yet

[glass mortar]

its not like it gives u burst, when we were looking at the damage profiles of outlaw logs i feel like u could not even determine where AR was used

[hardy vault]

fuuuck

[glass mortar]

our damage is still just rng whenever it happens it happens

[keen belfry]

yeah full agree

[glass mortar]

but ye prep to be able to at least guarentee u wont go full energy dry for a damage amp

will feel better then just using it on cd

[keen belfry]

dmg is more dictated by stuff like BTE crits/resets, acro, rtb, etc

let me find my screenshot

[glass mortar]

its honestly more cringe trying to use prep in a raid fight then it is in m+ flexibility like that tbh

[gaunt phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1418438884404105277/Medal_ajBaAOUoOE.gif

[glass mortar]

because what happens when u reach that damage amp phase and AR is naturally coming off cd because of how it aligned that pull

and u just basically wasted having prep even talented on the whole fight

god this talent is so dog

how did we get here

[keen belfry]

hahaha

this is the screenshot

the greenbars are AR

or greenn blocks

[copper radish]

Looks like a weak aura 🤔

[brisk crypt]

Kinda looking forward to maining a more niche/less played spec - how do you outlaw mains find it? 🙂

[hardy vault]

let's see if i'll find a key to test awang build on beta

skyfury is very big for law too, right?

[gaunt phoenix]

1 iteration is noisy. if you were to average the dps inside and outside of AR over many pulls, it would be a noticeable curve

[keen belfry]

i think this is pretty fair to say but most people who have played outlaw in TWW loved the cringe depth fart that we had to deal with

so most people who like this new outlaw either:
didnt enjoy TWW outlaw and preferred the pre dragonflight rework
or
didnt play outlaw before at all

if you like this version, happy for you king

[hardy vault]

i just like it because it's more interesting than sub and i need something to cope to stay on rogue

[keen belfry]

i thnk its pretty safely the best of the rogue reworks

the other ones got fucked so hard too

[patent mirage]

tww outlaw was a dead end

[keen belfry]

but even if fucked as hard as us, they stgarted with us

[gaunt phoenix]

I thought sin was fairly happy with gameplay

[keen belfry]

in aoe u just spawm your aoe builder

spam

[hardy vault]

sin is the rogue spec i won't touch willingly

[keen belfry]

and there is no real pooling/chaining as sin atm

[hardy vault]

idk why but i just dislike it in general

[patent mirage]

sin is okhish , you just really need the apex talents

[glass mortar]

apparently even with the apex pooling is worth poopoopeepee

and yea in aoe u just spam the bleed spread like 35 times in a row

it does too much damage and so do bleeds

[keen belfry]

therea are builds u drop apex 4 so idk about apex being that game changing

sin is weird cause they legit have too much energy which is opposite of our problem

[glass mortar]

yea and the apm is too high apparently

which i could never relate to and i doubt most in here could

but in st its too fast ig

[keen belfry]

u either build buiid AFK AFK AFK finsiher build buiid AFK AFK AFK finsiher and pretend you are being a gamer and chaining or just ingoire the afk part and ahve same uptime on envenom

[hardy vault]

there's a pre key setup mentioned in pins

what is that

[keen belfry]

the way i described the rogue specs was i think we all equally got fucked, maybe sin the least?
but sub started at a 6 and went to a 2
sin started at 7 and went to 3
outlaw started at 10 and went to a 5-6ish?

[keen belfry]

before key starts press AR KS
after bubble goes away press snd before pull as yhou will have combo points from the pre key AR KS

and u have a free loaded dice too

[glass mortar]

hmm

LD should give a free cast of RtB regardless of its cd when you gain it cmm @gaunt phoenix

would that fix munching issues

i mean i guess only if u dont get 3+ buffs on the non LD roll

make it so LD guarentees ur next roll is at least 1 buff higher then the current one

[gaunt phoenix]

LD becomes the strongest talent in the tree

[glass mortar]

yea that would be way way too strong with a 45s duration

i bet u could practically guarentee building up to a jackpot with that and prep

would need to be much shorter prob

[glass mortar]

as it should be

[grave rose]

I enjoyed the HO version of TWW outlaw, hated KIR

The new version is enjoyable and much less brutal on the hands. At 46 keeping up that apm would make my hand cramp

[keen belfry]

ho gamers right guys?

[grave rose]

Dying in a key and not having AR up felt pretty fucking terrible as well

[keen belfry]

yes outlaws reliance on AR was cringe

i uynderstand the issues they addressed, but i just dont lik ehow they did it

[glass mortar]

isnt this version of law almost the same to kir tho

like its slower, crackshots gone (wasnt a kir thing tho)

the builders and spender rules r the same as that varient tho

[keen belfry]

new rtb fixes what people hated about KIR me thjinks

[grave rose]

it does

[glass mortar]

which was what

[grave rose]

at least for me anyway

[keen belfry]

remembering buffs to extend and etc

[grave rose]

the conditions that had to be monitored and met before pressing KIR

[glass mortar]

99.99% of the time the condition to press kir was "at X or more buffs" tho

[vivid vessel]

count to 4

lil bro

[glass mortar]

which is the same as live

the X is just lower

[grave rose]

If I wanted to count, I'd watch fucking seseme street. Also I didnt ask you

[untold wadi]

[vivid vessel]

[grave rose]

One of these days you should learn to keep your dickhead comments to yourself

[vivid vessel]

what dickead comment

you said

conditions that had to be monitored

i said

it was count to 4

which is hardl;y counting btw

iof you have to count to 4 to realise you have 4 icons

myabe you are braindead

[grave rose]

I dont want to count to four

[vivid vessel]

fuck you

[keen belfry]

i love outlaw chat

[glass mortar]

i guess the live conditions are easier to hit for kir but thats because it has no reactionary nature anymore

its just press RtB then press KiR or dont

[fervent garden]

hahaaha. it's so awesome

[glass mortar]

brain off

[vivid vessel]

what did i even do bro

[glass mortar]

go make some more pastas zac ur too spicy today

[untold wadi]

liked old outlaw

[glass mortar]

cant believe ud come in swinging like that

[vivid vessel]

my bad raxus get offended when i tell him the complex conditions are counting to 4

[glass mortar]

he prob got more offended at u lil broing him

[grave rose]

Says the toolbox who's entire identity is a video game.

[vivid vessel]

who are you

[untold wadi]

hey, you just insulted half of the playerbase

(me)

[keen belfry]

im in a discord call watch8ing my friends play fellowship watching a banger outlaw convo while im working

life isnt real sometimes

[glass mortar]

oh shit new fellowship season today i forgot

the new healer is actually wildly broken i feel like

[vivid vessel]

heard they didnt evn drop a new dungeon

[fervent garden]

this is the only way i get through the workday.

[glass mortar]

idk how u r ever gunna balance a healer who has a passive that gives everyone in ur party brewmaster stagger tho

thats some crazy character design

wish the new dps had been released

[keen belfry]

i already miss the zac vs raxus arc

[vivid vessel]

i just went trough some of his old messages

bro just hate me

[keen belfry]

both u guys were cooking eachother

[vivid vessel]

he is just an old man taking everything he reads litteraly

[keen belfry]

i think it was a tie

[vivid vessel]

seems he started hating me cause i said ho was for noobs

and he got offended

[grave rose]

If you weren't so god damned condescending all the time, I wouldn't mind you so much

[vivid vessel]

point still stands tho

old grumpy noob

[grave rose]

Loser basement wizard

[keen belfry]

the OGN vs the LBW

[glass mortar]

holy fuk he just called zac a ranged dps????

zac ur getting got so hard rn

[vivid vessel]

thats actually funny cause my appartment is under a roof

6th floor

[untold wadi]

called a range spec

[glass mortar]

not even an outlaw

more like outLOL

[frail veldt]

isnt every apartment under a roof?

[vivid vessel]

well

no not like that

its like

idk the word

[glass mortar]

now mewos cookin him too

[frail veldt]

youre on the top floor

[vivid vessel]

no

[glass mortar]

zac about to cop a huge 30 minute mute again

[vivid vessel]

im above top floor

[grave rose]

do you help grandma with the bills?

[frail veldt]

okay now im confused

???????

[vivid vessel]

its legit like a cellar kinda

[frail veldt]

so youre ON the roof

[keen belfry]

ahahhaha WHAT?

[vivid vessel]

you know what i mean or

[glass mortar]

attic?

[frail veldt]

above top floor?

[glass mortar]

ur apartment is in the attic?

[frail veldt]

attic yeah

[vivid vessel]

like im under the roof thing dirrectly

its angled and shit

[frail veldt]

yes attic

[glass mortar]

thats the english word for the room that the roof of the building is the roof of

[vivid vessel]

yes

[glass mortar]

and usually no accesible by elevators or normal stuffs

[fervent garden]

crawlspace

[frail veldt]

the room above your ceiling

but below the roof

[vivid vessel]

yes

[frail veldt]

so like a basement

but the opposite

[vivid vessel]

well its made to be like a normal appartment

[frail veldt]

is it an apartment or a room

[vivid vessel]

but its direclty under the roof

very chiil tho

super cozy

[frail veldt]

like is there a bathroom?

[vivid vessel]

ye

[frail veldt]

cuz if so thats not an attic haha

[vivid vessel]

there is everything

its an apprtment

[frail veldt]

thats just an apartment with a vaulted ceiling

[grave rose]

its a bucket

[vivid vessel]

why the old man keep trying to beef

you are 46 lil bro

[grave rose]

cause its funny

[vivid vessel]

i dotn even know you and you hate me

[keen belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1395102119840976956/Medal_H4Lxgd63Yl.gif

[vivid vessel]

you hate a random on the internet

[frail veldt]

ngl

[vivid vessel]

while being 46

[keen belfry]

raxus peeking zac rn

[vivid vessel]

and you think you are owning me

[frail veldt]

considering zac is like the easiest person in the world to ragebait, this guys doing a very bad job

[fervent garden]

dude. 46 isnt that old.

[frail veldt]

okay oldie

[vivid vessel]

ok grandpa

you are 50 or what

[fervent garden]

hahahahaaha

[vivid vessel]

bro half dead

[frail veldt]

more than half

[keen belfry]

im 29

am i old

[frail veldt]

his kids could have kids

[fervent garden]

yes im more than half dead

[frail veldt]

im 32 and im old

[glass mortar]

1 more year left before u retire the outlaw awang

its illegal to play outlaw past 30

[frail veldt]

tru

[glass mortar]

it costs u ur hand and wrist health

[frail veldt]

my hands barely function

[glass mortar]

actually that was oldlaw

[grave rose]

not anymore, its an old man spec now

[frail veldt]

I keep them in an ice bath

when im not on wow

[glass mortar]

newlaw u can probably play till 60s

[frail veldt]

so I can play outlaw

for 30 mins

before they are in so much pain

I have to stop

[vivid vessel]

idk about that

not sure this raxus guy could

[frail veldt]

thats not an age issue

got him

[vivid vessel]

ye but it doesnt get better with age

[frail veldt]

im aging like fine wine

wows aging worse than I am

lol

[strange kelp]

Stored in a dark basement without light?

[frail veldt]

wows barely in its 20s and looks whats happening to it

[keen belfry]

same bro im gonna be a baddie in my 30s i think

[frail veldt]

pop off

[grave rose]

Keep your doctors appointments, only advice I have for ya

[fervent garden]

i played WotLK... in my 30's

[frail veldt]

thats it?

[vivid vessel]

wtf

[frail veldt]

not sleep well and eat less processed foods

[keen belfry]

you old man

[fervent garden]

yes iam

[vivid vessel]

arent you like

70 then

[keen belfry]

and a chelsea fan ? LMAO

[fervent garden]

hahaha

52

[frail veldt]

how much is your social security check?

[vivid vessel]

52

[grave rose]

I was 25 when wow released

[vivid vessel]

[frail veldt]

zac will you be playing wow at 52

[vivid vessel]

no clue

[fervent garden]

fuck yeah he will

[vivid vessel]

i hope so

or something else

[gaunt phoenix]

zac

[glass mortar]

zac will be playing midnight remix when hes 52

[gaunt phoenix]

i think

[strange kelp]

They will have made outlaw a ranged spec by then

[gaunt phoenix]

if you offend someone, even not on purpose

you can just say "my bad"

[keen belfry]

solo getting caught up on zac vs arxus lore rn

[gaunt phoenix]

and then it's over

[vivid vessel]

im not gonna say my bad when he jsut insult me lol

[keen belfry]

say mb cuh it works evertyime

u can flame back but end it with mb cuh

[vivid vessel]

he is just a hater anyway

[keen belfry]

like damn bro fuck u but mb cuh

[vivid vessel]

bro entire chat history is just hating on me for 0

[grave rose]

its not even what he said, its how he said it, very condescending. I told him I didn't want his opinion. Zac knows his shit, has the social skills of a potato

[frail veldt]

is it really 0 though

[vivid vessel]

well i never talked to him so ye

[frail veldt]

you should meet zeross

[fervent garden]

he's got a point about the potato thing

[grave rose]

I have spoken with Zeross before. Never had any issues

[strange kelp]

He's French, wouldn't it be a baguette?

[gaunt phoenix]

i do think you might be assuming an intent over text that's not quite there

[frail veldt]

somethings off

[fossil lintel]

Is it even possible for french people to not be condescending? I thought that was their whole vibe

[vivid vessel]

i mean i didnt give you my opinion

[grave rose]

You could be right

[vivid vessel]

you said it had complex conditions

and i reminded people that the conditions are counting to 4

not my fault you got offended

cause 4 is too high a number

[keen belfry]

u guys just dont know how to interact with the zacs of the world, french gamer

[frail veldt]

complexity isnt an absolute though

its relative

and relatively speaking

old kir was more complex

so hes right from his perspective

if you had issues with old KiR

the new one does in fact solve it

[glass mortar]

old kirs conditions to use had more overhead the current, only becuase the current overhead is basically zero tho

[frail veldt]

if you didnt have issues with old KiR then cool

[gaunt phoenix]

It is rude to imply people are just dumb if they find kir complex

like alright

[glass mortar]

but its not super relevant i was more interested in why people who loved old HO and hated kir would like new outlaw

[grave rose]

had you said " all you really had to do was wait till you had four buffs and hit KIR" we wouldn't here. "count to 4 lil bro" is condescending to me.

[frail veldt]

I think its the same reason

I mean some people like outlaw holistically

for its lore/nostalgia from previous versions etc

but they didnt like how complex it was(even thats what some people liked the most)

most of those people never liked HO just for HO cuz they liked ambush a ton or something

[glass mortar]

sure but most of the difference in complexities wasnt kir, it was the builder spender rule differences

[keen belfry]

count to 4 lil bro while condescening is also funny

[glass mortar]

which this outlaw has almost the same as old kir (not 1 fth obviously)

[frail veldt]

yes but both reasons are the complexity

some people dont like a spec to be that much work

for some people complexity past a certain point is just tedium

[fervent garden]

exactly.

[frail veldt]

the only thing thats a mystery here is why zac doesnt think being condescending would annoy people

[glass mortar]

zac has always shit down the throat of anyone who proclaimed to enjoy HO i dont think its deeper then that

[grave rose]

Oh trust me I know

[glass mortar]

he'd probably say some condescending meme to whispyr if he was in here talking about HO and cop a nice 2 hour mute

lets be real

[frail veldt]

truuuuuu

[gaunt phoenix]

i nominate zac as one of our ravenholdt ambassadors

[frail veldt]

HAHAHAHA

[gaunt phoenix]

we need at least 2

[glass mortar]

zac and ross

done

[frail veldt]

oh boy

[glass mortar]

ez

[fossil lintel]

I nominated him the day the news came out

[glass mortar]

"one doesnt play the game and the other hates everything"

"anywhere here is outlaws representation, we think its accurate"

[fossil lintel]

Peak outlaw experience

[keen belfry]

me?

[gaunt phoenix]

no

[keen belfry]

!wang

[glass mortar]

we cant have someone with wang in their name representing us dont be silly

[fervent garden]

i thnk wang would bring a sense of sophmorish charm.

[glass mortar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1019436417564299341/1098359913878659212/SPOILER_attachment.gif

[keen belfry]

what the hell is sophmorish charm

[frail veldt]

idk

but you got it

[glass mortar]

^

[gaunt phoenix]

me neither

[keen belfry]

cant beleive solo doesnt think im a welcome part of the rogue discord

sybau solo

sybau

[frail veldt]

the fuck is a sybau

[gaunt phoenix]

say you back (that) ass up

no?

[frail veldt]

LOL

[keen belfry]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sybau-ts

[glass mortar]

HUH

https://tenor.com/view/mods-reaction-low-tier-god-gif-3069402631519613407

[fossil lintel]

But being honest, I find it amazing someone can play wow if they get triggered by being called lil bro once

[frail veldt]

oh nvm I got it

I mean

[fossil lintel]

The man can't pug ever

[frail veldt]

theres a lot of easily triggered wow players

we call them pvpers generally

[grave rose]

I usually just call people fat kids when they kirk out in keys

which makes em kirk out more

[frail veldt]

damn thats a good one

[fossil lintel]

I had a guildie who was like that, I stopped pugging with him because any minor thing he would just quit the group

Was super annoying

[grave rose]

I usually pug 3k

as HO

suck it

[frail veldt]

huge

[fossil lintel]

3k? Damn you're better than ryu

[keen belfry]

sup guys sophmoric awang here

[glass mortar]

not anymore

[frail veldt]

and hes a legend!

[glass mortar]

ryu is smoking us all with his 69% haste build

post outlaw remake

he has enough energy for all of us now, but he wont share

[gaunt phoenix]

toxic

[fossil lintel]

Realz just wanted justice for ryu

[fervent garden]

i was waiting for someone to look it up

come on guys, read a book

[glass mortar]

LOL

listen i knew it wasnt a term used in a positive light usually but i had no idea the actual definition

[desert tendon]

u know who s toxic?

[frail veldt]

WHOA wtf

[desert tendon]

Zac

[grave rose]

The amount of times people go into a rage about how much they bench is impressive.

[fossil lintel]

This entire chat is a toxic cesspool of smelly nerds tbh and that's why we love it

[frail veldt]

yeah that happens all the time

[keen belfry]

@fervent garden pretentioius!?!?!!

[keen belfry]

i can out bench you

[grave rose]

I took a shower AND put on deodorant today

[glass mortar]

ur def not pretentioious awang

[fervent garden]

i did say charming as well!!!

[glass mortar]

i think it might have been the other one

dw 🥰

[grave rose]

Depends, how much does your mother weigh?

[keen belfry]

ty ❤️

[keen belfry]

ill ask ehr today ill call her

[grave rose]

lol

[keen belfry]

i texted her what my blood type was last week

im a+

[frail veldt]

OMG SAME

[grave rose]

blood type Syrup

[frail veldt]

lol this guys got all the bangers

[grave rose]

Im right there with him lol

[desert tendon]

zero's bloodtype is probably RB

[ashen void]

churlish

[desert tendon]

probably redbull++++++ if you ask for precision

[keen belfry]

sup guys, optic sophomorish awang here and today we gonna be blood type A+!

[grave rose]

lol

[desert tendon]

rename wangbar to a+bar please

[frail veldt]

wa+ngbar

[gaunt phoenix]

wa

[desert tendon]

wa