outlaw

[desert tendon]

with russians

[vivid vessel]

i did 22 dfc noob

[proven ocean]

u guys are devaluing r1 too much

[proven ocean]

ye i stopped before turbo boost

got boring idk

mdi ended

[desert tendon]

i have hof, i m a RWF dude

[proven ocean]

then everyone sotpped playing

[desert tendon]

what are you doing now zero?

osrs?

[proven ocean]

yea

i did a crazy good challenge recently

finally did something good at the game

took me a while

[desert tendon]

i m happy for you

[proven ocean]

i've been playing it everyday since quitting wow

[desert tendon]

truely

[frail veldt]

it originated in pvp haha

[proven ocean]

still not good enough tho

[frail veldt]

thats just what its called

[desert tendon]

yea it is mewo

[proven ocean]

skill ceiling in osrs is so high

[desert tendon]

but it never clicked for me

[proven ocean]

ye its sad idk

saying 0.1% is better than just calling urself r1

[desert tendon]

i never said R1 for title

[proven ocean]

because a real r1 can't even get the value of saying r1

u feel me or

like

[desert tendon]

i m from rated games where R1 means R1

[proven ocean]

number 1 vs 0.1% is a huuuge skill gap

its not even close

[desert tendon]

so when wow players do taht i cant relate

[proven ocean]

night and day difference

[vivid vessel]

im r1 zeross

[desert tendon]

but i know it s proper to wow

[proven ocean]

ur my balls zac

[vivid vessel]

no!

[proven ocean]

gonna watch 2nd episode now

[desert tendon]

ur my bells zac

[vivid vessel]

okok

[proven ocean]

okok

[desert tendon]

zac zac

[vivid vessel]

nice

[proven ocean]

zac zac

do u know

i lkove u or

jk

i hate u

[desert tendon]

i taught 'belle bite" to an english streamer

[proven ocean]

ok

?

[vivid vessel]

okok

[proven ocean]

okok

[desert tendon]

and they spamming it everywhere

[proven ocean]

!!

[desert tendon]

everytime

it s fun

[proven ocean]

zaczac i wanna show u my room later once i buy tv

ok

?

[desert tendon]

ok

[vivid vessel]

okok

[proven ocean]

okok

[desert tendon]

show hands also zero

please

[proven ocean]

with mommy pink gloves or without

wait i dont have one

[desert tendon]

without

just your hands

[proven ocean]

ok

okok

[frail veldt]

well in this case 0.1% in pvp is usually slots 1-3

for a lot of specs

[proven ocean]

not now tho

[desert tendon]

need to compare with guy's hands

[proven ocean]

wait do u have a hand fetish or what

[desert tendon]

no

[desert tendon]

maybe

who knows

[frail veldt]

so in this case 0.1% was literally r1-r3

[proven ocean]

WHAT WDYM MAYBE

[desert tendon]

i m r1 hand fetish

🏄‍♂️ 🏄‍♀️

[glass mortar]

that you know of...

[frail veldt]

truuuuuu

[proven ocean]

nah i doubt that

i see alot of ppl in 0.1%

[frail veldt]

I mean its just true

[proven ocean]

enough for them not to be in top 10 even

or top 30

[frail veldt]

no as in literally

[proven ocean]

i mean a real r1 has my respect

but

[desert tendon]

what are they calling r1 in pvp now?

[frail veldt]

the 0.1% cutoff is 3rd place on the ladder for a lot of specs

[desert tendon]

top 50?

[proven ocean]

ye like a survival hunter in M+ with 0.1%

[frail veldt]

but pvp isnt balanced

[desert tendon]

not even 3k mewo

[proven ocean]

being rank 1 survival hunter

[desert tendon]

what are u doing

[proven ocean]

isn't impressive

at all

[frail veldt]

this was s1

[proven ocean]

compared to say

mage

[frail veldt]

before hyper inflation

[proven ocean]

or a meta spec

[desert tendon]

i see

that s ok

[frail veldt]

and before people cheated iwth mmr

[desert tendon]

i mean

[frail veldt]

I dont like staying up past midnight

[desert tendon]

you re rated by specs on pvp

so it makes sens

[frail veldt]

yeah ofc

[desert tendon]

it s like the best trundle is low GM

but it's still the best trundle you know

[frail veldt]

well you can queue as another champ

[desert tendon]

he can say he is r1 trundle

[frail veldt]

right?

[desert tendon]

and that s fine i guess

[frail veldt]

your rating isnt champ specific is it

[desert tendon]

it is not

but you understood me

[frail veldt]

yeah so that doesnt make sense really

but yes I do

[desert tendon]

like if

let s say

[glass mortar]

in wow ur rating is spec specific

[frail veldt]

wow is prob more balanced than league champs though

unironically

[glass mortar]

at least in shuffle

[desert tendon]

r1 outlaw rogue is 2500

let it be it

it s still r1

[frail veldt]

still the best outlaw rogue

[vivid vessel]

in pvp?

[frail veldt]

yes

[vivid vessel]

idk about pvp

[desert tendon]

even if compared to the other specs it s trash ranking

[vivid vessel]

i complelty disagree in pve tho

[frail veldt]

pvp is def more balanced than league lol

league balance is a fucking meme

[desert tendon]

hmmm

[frail veldt]

too many champs

[shell fossil]

tyler1 has been getting griefed since last week from what i've seen

[desert tendon]

debatable

league is very well balanced since last season

[vivid vessel]

leagues feels like you can play legit anything and still win or carry

[proven ocean]

XDXDXDDXDXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[frail veldt]

I mean if the best trundle is masters

[desert tendon]

there are gaps obviously still

[vivid vessel]

how are you gonna carry as outlaw in s3 ?

[proven ocean]

thats one way to tell

mewo never played league in his life

prob silver in league

[frail veldt]

cc lol

[proven ocean]

xdxdxd

[desert tendon]

he is the only high elo trundle

that s also why

[vivid vessel]

im taling pve

[frail veldt]

im not

[vivid vessel]

i am

[frail veldt]

okay well then theres no argument

[proven ocean]

zac

[frail veldt]

haha

[proven ocean]

mewo is becoming moot 2.0

he's ramping up

[desert tendon]

there are champs like that

[proven ocean]

every day

[frail veldt]

zeross you take Ls to me in every argument

[glass mortar]

idk what metrics u could even imagine comparing league balance and wow balance

league has like 170 champions

[proven ocean]

i swear its a disease everytime someone gets banned someone shows up and tries to take over

[frail veldt]

spec distribution in 3s bracket

[proven ocean]

[desert tendon]

best bel vet is in the top 10, but the 2nd bel vet is not even gm

because noone plays the champ

[frail veldt]

thats kinda my point

[desert tendon]

(and it s op)

[frail veldt]

league has too many champs theres gona be some that suck and are unplayed

[proven ocean]

nope i just disagree with everything u say without reading it

[desert tendon]

yes

[proven ocean]

because

[desert tendon]

but my point is

[frail veldt]

thats why I always win

[desert tendon]

they re unplayed because people dont like them

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel does the show get better

[desert tendon]

not because they re trash

[proven ocean]

nope i won all

[frail veldt]

im sure its a little of both

[proven ocean]

noob

[desert tendon]

I truely feel league has been well balanced lately

[glass mortar]

i think every wow spec in any season can reach glad and get glad title if ur willing to sweat and tryhard enough

[desert tendon]

and it even bores me

[glass mortar]

league is also usually like that tho

[desert tendon]

no cap

[glass mortar]

even the shittiest champs have their 1tp

[desert tendon]

also

[frail veldt]

oh glad 10000%

[glass mortar]

playing them to GM

[frail veldt]

2400 is low though

[desert tendon]

leauge does patch note every 2 weeks

[jolly geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/871080348279263242/1473388105649094707/evneGds-W_LZT-Ti.mp4?ex=6996071a&is=6994b59a&hm=c7b696f0628e2dcfc2e278ef6de26cee7d97f626781d7c3fdcbbd945c098c9bf&

[desert tendon]

unlike blizzard with patch notes every 3 months

[proven ocean]

glad is like 0.1% title @glass mortar

so

its giga easy

[frail veldt]

no glad is 2400

[proven ocean]

if ur good at that content its free

[desert tendon]

2400 + 50wins right?

[frail veldt]

zeross you dont even know what the titles are haha

2400 50 wins yeah

[proven ocean]

i do

[desert tendon]

imo

[frail veldt]

2400 is like not even top 5%

[proven ocean]

brutal gladiator is one of the og ones

[glass mortar]

2400 and 50 wins above that rating

[desert tendon]

glad is way harder than m+ title

but maybe i m wonrg

[frail veldt]

which glad

[desert tendon]

but i feel like

[frail veldt]

r1 glad or 2400

[proven ocean]

no its not

[frail veldt]

2400 is pretty fucking easy

[proven ocean]

its r1

glad is easy

[desert tendon]

i think for a new players

[frail veldt]

r1 glad title is definitely harder than m+ title

[desert tendon]

it s easier to m+ title than glad mount

[proven ocean]

u see helena

[desert tendon]

you know

[proven ocean]

he has like

hota

[desert tendon]

maybe i m wrong tho

[proven ocean]

and multiple glads

but like

[vivid vessel]

i timed 22 dfc noob

[proven ocean]

if ur good at pvp

[frail veldt]

eh I disagree

[proven ocean]

its free easy

[glass mortar]

i think this whole convo is silly because theres no real accurate way to measure R1 league player champion viability and R1 wow player spec viability and come up with some average metric to genuinly compare them

id say both games do an ok job of everything being "viable" but league tunes more often

and their tuning is not like wows

[frail veldt]

maybe pvp is easier but the amount of hours it takes to get m+ title was kind of a lot

[desert tendon]

oh yea it s weird comparaison weran

[proven ocean]

no one asked

[desert tendon]

i think it would be better and more accurate to compare other ranking games

maybe ow?

[frail veldt]

2400 glad is pretty easy at the end of the season though

also its different every season

2400 is arbitrary

[desert tendon]

but i m more comfy with league that s why i brought it up

[frail veldt]

so some seasons its so free

[proven ocean]

its like saying is faker gonna have a hard time reaching challenger? hes already rly good

its gonna obviously be free if ur good enough

[desert tendon]

fun fact

faker is master every seasons

[proven ocean]

some 1 who never had glad before is gonna struggle

[desert tendon]

he doesnt have time to soloQ

[proven ocean]

ye cuz he doesnt give a shit

[shell fossil]

you still control your play in arena/rbg..league is legit ppl running coinflips if their lanes get fed

[frail veldt]

BRO

you have not played rbgs

[proven ocean]

at some point ur just too good to care about numbers

[glass mortar]

arena also has other players tho

[desert tendon]

yes and no woll

[frail veldt]

RBG is so coin flip

[desert tendon]

in league

i can reach 200LP with a very high winrate

[glass mortar]

and rbgs even moreso

[frail veldt]

blitz* specifically

[desert tendon]

then i ll struggle

because that s my skill ceilling

in rbg

when i was pugging

it s hard

and gladly as a rogue i could do stuff alone

but that s because i was a rogue, a hpriest cant

[shell fossil]

i've played a battleground one time i could imagine

[desert tendon]

ninjacapping as a rogue was really what brought me into rbg

[frail veldt]

yeah solo queueing disc in blitz is hell

youre the slowest spec in the game

and if your team has no rogue

and they have rogue

its like almost insta over

[desert tendon]

i remember my RL understanding me and saying "you just ask if you need me to cover your flag, you do you"

i was big friends with our rdruid

we did some crazy duo caps

such a cool time

[proven ocean]

u know what was the best time to rbg

[desert tendon]

love rbg

[proven ocean]

legion balance druid

u just starfall

everything dies

[desert tendon]

cyclon, duel, sap, blind, everything so good

[frail veldt]

thats how it was in tww too hahahaha

[glass mortar]

peak RBGs was the start of mop

when aoe grips had just been introduced to the game

[desert tendon]

but lot of time as a rogue, i was just sitting my flag and watching youtube on my second monitor

[frail veldt]

boomkin was pretty busted for almost all of tww in blitz

[desert tendon]

[glass mortar]

that shit was so funny

[keen belfry]

pvp is so bad

[proven ocean]

no

[desert tendon]

i got ninjacapped so many times because i wasnt paying attention

xD

[keen belfry]

no more pvp talk

NONE

[desert tendon]

i got insulted so much

stfu wang

[glass mortar]

oh fuk awangangangangang has spoken

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ai-ai-cat-dancing-sassy-dance-tuxedo-cat-gif-12024810569899591128

[glass mortar]

censi

[frail veldt]

base sitting is SOOO boring

[proven ocean]

wait

[desert tendon]

it is

[proven ocean]

gnawa is here

everyone run

[desert tendon]

but sometimes u have to

[glass mortar]

u can tell awang to stfu once uve made a rogue UI tool on the level of WANGBAR

!wa

[ornate heath]

Resources:

• ArcUI / BetterCDM - common suites for buff/cd customization
• WangBar - displays CPs/energy, customize colors per point, faster than Sensei
• MSUF - recommendation for unit frames
• Platynator - recommendation for nameplates (Jundies Profile)
  Misc:
• Mute Cold Blood sound
• EasyReminders - can show poison reminders outside of instances

[glass mortar]

hmm mysteriously i see no censi in this list

[desert tendon]

double gdrood comps

i remember

[frail veldt]

dont disrespect our ui king

[proven ocean]

@keen belfry u still a noob or?

[keen belfry]

yeah guys

watch it

[proven ocean]

answer is yeah

ok

hi noob

!

[keen belfry]

im most never not noob of all time

[desert tendon]

i remember losing to a 7gdrood russian party in SL

that was fun

[frail veldt]

rofl

[frail veldt]

SL rbgs was wild

disc priest was hella fun

[frail veldt]

wow zeross being dumb as usual

classic zeross

[desert tendon]

The melee looked chatic

dh war dk

[frail veldt]

I just loved atonement

[desert tendon]

infinite grabs

[frail veldt]

it was very fun

[proven ocean]

fake screenshot didnt say oh btw

[proven ocean]

?

[desert tendon]

i m glad we were a small community who doesnt care about meta

[proven ocean]

you always have to talk shit everytime dont you

[desert tendon]

well we once played 3 rogues

we played 2 games then disbanded

[frail veldt]

taking you this long to catch on?

slow learner

[desert tendon]

i remember them being the mop map as well

so bad

[frail veldt]

no wonder your alt has 1000d played

[proven ocean]

what an idiot

[frail veldt]

you know if you think about it

zeross rating for time played

is very bad

low ratio

[desert tendon]

real

[frail veldt]

I think maybe youre bad player

[desert tendon]

i ve seen R1 with half you /played

noob

[proven ocean]

no one asked find someone else to talk to

[frail veldt]

imagine needing that much /played

just to beat a computer

pve players heh

[desert tendon]

imagine being a /played hater like that

[proven ocean]

bro has 2k rating in m+ and calls himself a good player

[desert tendon]

that s so toxic

Anyway

it s shower time guys

bye

[proven ocean]

he got m+ title once and calls himself a key pusher

[frail veldt]

I would never insult myself like that

and call myself a key pusher

[keen belfry]

I ONLY have one title guys

thoughts?

[desert tendon]

who asked wang?

[proven ocean]

tenis player is ramping up

[desert tendon]

🏄‍♂️ 🏄‍♀️

[proven ocean]

[frail veldt]

well how much /played do you have

[echo bloom]

oh no, censi is the surf guy on forums?

[frail veldt]

were talking titles per /played here

[proven ocean]

i got title with 10 keys played

[desert tendon]

i ahve a queestion mewo

[proven ocean]

what about you

1000?

[desert tendon]

is magnus carlsen bad then?

he has a lot of /played

[proven ocean]

bro probably bought all his keys

[desert tendon]

[proven ocean]

5m per key

[vivid vessel]

i know another guy that did that

[frail veldt]

idk whats his /played to titles ratio

[vivid vessel]

name is lashga

[frail veldt]

GOOD TASTE

[desert tendon]

it s like 15h a day for 20 years

for

[proven ocean]

i wouldn't be surprised if he actually bought keys

[vivid vessel]

he did ?

lol

[proven ocean]

wait no way

[vivid vessel]

we know he did wdym

[proven ocean]

did he actually

[vivid vessel]

yes

[proven ocean]

LOL

no shot

AHAHHAHA

[desert tendon]

that

[vivid vessel]

in s2

[proven ocean]

[vivid vessel]

he got boosted to r1 sub

[frail veldt]

I think his titles per /played still might be higher than all the other players though lol

[vivid vessel]

and it was very obvious

[proven ocean]

absolutely shameless

[frail veldt]

cuz p sure they all have a lot of /played

[proven ocean]

i mean zac

[vivid vessel]

then he came in here to brag about being r1 sub

[desert tendon]

oh yea they sure do

[frail veldt]

I mean if someone were to start playing chess for 2 years

[proven ocean]

u can easily know if some 1 get boosted because u can see who he plays with

[frail veldt]

and beat magnus

do you think theyre better?

I think so

[proven ocean]

like

ppl i play with

24/7 boost

[frail veldt]

or at least theres an argument to be made

[proven ocean]

if they play with lashga

[desert tendon]

but i have like 5% of his %played and i have 40% of his rating

[proven ocean]

he got 100% boosted

[frail veldt]

cuz that would be PRETTY impressive

[desert tendon]

maybe i m better

[frail veldt]

you have 0 titles

rating isnt linear

[desert tendon]

fk me

i ll grab a title

brb

[proven ocean]

it was kinda hilarious to see my team play with ppl i thought had potential

instead

they were key buyers

[desert tendon]

title of the shower

[proven ocean]

dude

key buyers are actually the worst players in wow

they have crazy ego

"get me in r1 keys im good enough"

they keep on saying things like that because they got boosted top 10 world keys

where we just do all the work

[random stirrup]

it is pretty funny to see them say "ye but we still have to play it so we can do it"

[proven ocean]

ye

[random stirrup]

or "i just dont have the connections to actually get in the group"

[proven ocean]

their dps is so ass

we waste all our CRs on them because we just play perfect since we progged the keys already

[proven ocean]

yea thats their golden line

[frail veldt]

what if they beat you on the meters

would you give them a chance

[proven ocean]

nah

they're always so bad

its actually impossible

[vivid vessel]

i mean i know bro i opened his raider io that day and this was what i found

[proven ocean]

i've beat like

[vivid vessel]

you know younteaux right

[proven ocean]

udk in season 2

pre nerf btw

[frail veldt]

you also lost to outlaw

I watched those keys

[proven ocean]

i mean outlaw was op

it was a dk replacement in melee comps so

[frail veldt]

well you were floor pov

so

[proven ocean]

not rly

maybe ur mom was but not me

[proven ocean]

who

no idea

oh

i know kaggalash

ye

these guys are boosters

[vivid vessel]

yonteaxu is a top player that boost

[proven ocean]

ya

thats 100% a boost

not even close

[vivid vessel]

at the time of these keys he basically got boosted by all the r1 players

[proven ocean]

dude

[vivid vessel]

like his highest keys timed were like 16s

and suddenly in one night he times all 19s with the same group of r1 people

[proven ocean]

my team was full of boosters

[vivid vessel]

and then he came in this discord to brag about being r1 sub

[proven ocean]

noob friends thought i was buying boosts from them

maybe i was

[vivid vessel]

you were

[proven ocean]

[vivid vessel]

remmeber when i boosted you in df s3

[proven ocean]

wait did he actually brag about it

ye i remmeber

[vivid vessel]

yes lol

[proven ocean]

wait

[vivid vessel]

ty for gold

[proven ocean]

i boosted u in s2 tww too

remember or

[desert tendon]

Zero was floor poc

Pov

Whole s3

I remember

[vivid vessel]

sounds fake to me

[desert tendon]

So bad

[proven ocean]

??????

u were like

[vivid vessel]

i was top dps in every single one of your keys buddy

[proven ocean]

300 points behind

[vivid vessel]

sounds like i was carrying you ?

[proven ocean]

noob

[desert tendon]

Was unwatchable

[proven ocean]

i think 3 levels below

highest key

or 4

[vivid vessel]

np and thanks for the gold

[proven ocean]

WDYM THANKS FOR GOLD

[vivid vessel]

ok calm down zeross

[shell fossil]

rainy season is over

[proven ocean]

ok

me calm

!

[shell fossil]

excited

[vivid vessel]

like 1 key bellow cause i had no team bro

stay calm

[proven ocean]

nah u were actually 2-3 key levels below

no cap

[vivid vessel]

you realize how much 2 3 keys is lol

[proven ocean]

it was so bad i remember u complaining about it

[frail veldt]

was this the time you did dfc together

[vivid vessel]

thats going from r1 key to weekly

[proven ocean]

no from r1 zac

[frail veldt]

and zeross kept dying

[vivid vessel]

you are kinda coping rn

[proven ocean]

no zac

like

u had literally 0 teams

u were pure lfg

[vivid vessel]

yes and

[proven ocean]

lfg is always 2-3 keys below lol

[vivid vessel]

you still arent 3 keys behind

lol

no

look

one sec

[proven ocean]

?

[vivid vessel]

i find receipts ok

let me

[proven ocean]

dont look me

zac...

lfg's were never 1 key below r1

its actually impossible lol

ur gonna convince me that ppl did 21 keys

in lfg

when u did 22s?

xdxd

i think lfg's still only did 19s at the time

rarely 20s with good premade players who pugged

[vivid vessel]

1 key bellow lfg

[proven ocean]

no i remember

u were doing 17s

it was early on zac..

[vivid vessel]

same key level lfg

[frail veldt]

damn

hit him with the hard facts

whats zeross gona do

[proven ocean]

zac

[frail veldt]

balls in his court

[proven ocean]

i show my receipts

wait

[shell fossil]

[frail veldt]

can he make the shot

[proven ocean]

zac only showing the worst pics

me show

[vivid vessel]

1 key bellow also that was my tank

[random stirrup]

murtaz carrying again...

[vivid vessel]

im litteraly just finding the highest key i timed with you and the key i timed just before with pugs

lol

[frail veldt]

3 key levels bro

dont you know

[frail veldt]

why does zeross score say 0

[vivid vessel]

ye bro 3 level you go from r1 key to weekly

zeross is ragebaiting

[vivid vessel]

idk name change or transfer

[frail veldt]

ah

[vivid vessel]

idk why raiderio cant keep track for some reason

[proven ocean]

39 weeks ago

my highest ML was a 20

and

40 weeks ago ur highest priory was a 17

[echo bloom]

LOL dif dungeons

[frail veldt]

what was your highest priory

[echo bloom]

make no sense to me

[vivid vessel]

what

[frail veldt]

and what was zacs highest ML

[proven ocean]

19

[frail veldt]

okay so 2

[vivid vessel]

he also took 1 week prior for my priory than his ml lol

[frail veldt]

someone check my math here but p sure 2 < 3

[vivid vessel]

like what are we even comparing

[proven ocean]

this was world first pretty sure

[covert kestrel]

Epeen size obvs

[proven ocean]

like

[frail veldt]

hes using all his might to move the goalposts

[proven ocean]

the time we did that 19

not a single 18 pug was in lfg

that timed an 18

it was so hard

u needed a real premade to get through

[echo bloom]

But you payed prio with zac or just trying to ragebait? XD

[vivid vessel]

?

this is 1 week prior to your 19

[frail veldt]

oops

[echo bloom]

Cus all others he was 1lv below

[vivid vessel]

a 18 in lfg

[frail veldt]

hmm

[proven ocean]

ye thats a premade

not an lfg buddy

[vivid vessel]

thats a premade?

thats me

doing lfg

[proven ocean]

fauni and moonfire

so

[frail veldt]

2 people

1000% premade

[vivid vessel]

I mean bro

[proven ocean]

not rly

[vivid vessel]

high keys lfg

[proven ocean]

their entire team is a premade

[vivid vessel]

is just the same names lol

[frail veldt]

its TWO people posting a key in lfg

[vivid vessel]

of course you are going to find the same names

[proven ocean]

they played togtether

4 of them

[echo bloom]

Lets talk about something else, bro is baiting all of us XD

[frail veldt]

whered they find their 5th player

was it perhaps, lfg?

[vivid vessel]

i mean doesnt matter

[proven ocean]

from me

noob

[vivid vessel]

you were wrong anyway

[frail veldt]

the goal posts are FLYING across the field now

[proven ocean]

nope

!

[vivid vessel]

I wasnt doing 3 keys bellow you

[proven ocean]

zac im always right..

[frail veldt]

careful everyone

[vivid vessel]

i was doing 1 key bellow in lfg

stop yapping

[proven ocean]

zac u were 5 keys below how about that

[vivid vessel]

3 keys is enormous

[proven ocean]

?

[vivid vessel]

its going from r1 key to weekly bro

[random stirrup]

[proven ocean]

okok..

[shell fossil]

someone recognized ghostspin the 7m overall ret pal when i mentioned why a 17 halls didn't get timed

[vivid vessel]

also i will let you know i wasnt even playing keys back then i was pugging one key a week bro

you noob

anyway i carried your ass as always

very easy

[shell fossil]

b is for not good

[proven ocean]

wait can we talk about this legendary run on how it made it to every podcast and streamer+twitter that talked about this comp

this was as legendary as throne +30 in s3 DF

triple outlaw

[gaunt phoenix]

@loud garden let's avoid filtered words

[mighty pivot]

[proven ocean]

actual crazy run

ngl everyone was like how did they pull that off full melee no voice

[vivid vessel]

you mean tihs run ?

where im astro gapping you

[proven ocean]

nice dps meter weakaura..

nob...

[vivid vessel]

i miss when outlaw was doing damage bro

[proven ocean]

outlaw was so broken ngl

idk how it was not played

i guess too hard

[vivid vessel]

i wont even agree with that

hear my arguments ok

[proven ocean]

ok

i mean

it was just a dk replacement but died faster

[vivid vessel]

you play with a comp that gives you 15% damage with raid buffs

dk did more damage without raid buffs

[proven ocean]

yea

[vivid vessel]

and was uncapped

so

[proven ocean]

true idk

dk was nuts

[vivid vessel]

with outlaw you had to play slower routes cause target cap

so like

and worse comps

for raid buffs

so idk

[proven ocean]

its crazy that no one played sin tho

[echo bloom]

Target cap is so meme

[proven ocean]

it did more dps than arcane in some keys

it was less practical tho

[vivid vessel]

it was tuned how it should be tuned every tier if you ask me

[proven ocean]

no cc's

rly hard to pull off

[mighty pivot]

why are we having a rerun of the same discussion

[proven ocean]

ninjarobot

if u have something else to talk about

we're all ears buddy

see

[vivid vessel]

find me something else to talk about outlaw hasnt changed since day 1 alpha you noob

[proven ocean]

find me something else to talk about outlaw hasnt changed since day 1 alpha you noob

[vivid vessel]

imma go play league

fuck you robotman

[proven ocean]

??

no

fuck you too zac

oh u meant robotman

nvm

[mighty pivot]

BF got gutted

[proven ocean]

fuck you robotman

[vivid vessel]

ye outlaw kept getting worse true

[mighty pivot]

go play adc fiddlesticks

[proven ocean]

wait why not fuck zac fuck you too zac cuz why not right

but zac

why league or

kinda boring

[vivid vessel]

im a vayne one trick

[shell fossil]

9 days

[vivid vessel]

no wdym ?

[proven ocean]

guys when is mdinight

[vivid vessel]

can say a lot about league but idk about boring

[jolly geyser]

in couple hrs

[proven ocean]

wait rly?

i mean

why are they delaying the expac too much

felt like years

[mighty pivot]

fake outlaw not playing samira

[vivid vessel]

vayne feels like outlaw

[proven ocean]

ah

march 2

[vivid vessel]

you need an high apm champion

[random stirrup]

vayne is not like outlaw

she still has crackshot

[vivid vessel]

so high attack speed champ

[random stirrup]

[echo bloom]

nothing to do until 17/02

[proven ocean]

ryldd

arne't u the

noob rogue

or

[random stirrup]

yes

[vivid vessel]

and high outplay potential

[proven ocean]

hi

[vivid vessel]

so vayne is perfect

[proven ocean]

but zac

[vivid vessel]

its outlaw in leauge no cap

[proven ocean]

do u think

like

[vivid vessel]

same gameplay

[proven ocean]

why is my name zac

or do u never wonder

[shell fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/amby-ambrose-ambrose-kenny-smith-kglw-gizz-gif-3725697539386095776

[proven ocean]

u know what

i kinda wanna be a horse

just to say moo

wait i lost my moo badge

wtf

[echo bloom]

Horses from my country do not say moo

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel my birthday is in 7 days

not bad or

[honest cape]

rookie numbers

[keen belfry]

im like fake wow palyter

player

[glass mortar]

i feel like ryze would be closer to outlaw lol

calling vayne high apm

i mean i guess attack moving at high speed feels the same as pressing attacks at high speed

[vivid vessel]

with autos

yes

[glass mortar]

ryze is the spam abilities at 500 apm tho

[vivid vessel]

pressing spells fast doesnt feel the same

ok well

[glass mortar]

well he was last time i played him

about 10 years ago

[vivid vessel]

you press 3 spells

and you win the fight

[glass mortar]

4

[vivid vessel]

its not the same

[glass mortar]

smh

as opposed to u right click the enemy

and win the game

😠

[shell fossil]

vayne has to kite to not get exploded

attackmoves

[glass mortar]

i get it zac u cant land skill shots

[vivid vessel]

yes cuase you need to move around and auto move

[glass mortar]

its ok to like adc

[vivid vessel]

its diff

[glass mortar]

i am adc main

[vivid vessel]

i mean

look

im just saying

adc with attack speeds

are what feels the fastest

to me

like

in term of

outlaw gameplay

[shell fossil]

brain said normals are dumb just blast rookie mistake lmao

[glass mortar]

ughhhh i havent played any ranked this season

i usually grind out emerald then stop but ive been 2 lazy

[vivid vessel]

ryze feels super slow in comparaison

like the animations and shit are slow

you have time to wait between your spells

[shell fossil]

lissandra* felt good but match ups were all bad

[vivid vessel]

you e q then afk a

bit

then e q again

then afk

then e q again

its not like you were spamming

thats old ryze but

its not like that now

[glass mortar]

ah ok i havent played him in a looooong time so

not a mage gamer

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel that u?

[vivid vessel]

no !

[jolly geyser]

egg

[glass mortar]

WHA

i typed in 🥚 to see what emotes came up

and i just see

@jolly geyser u did this somehow

[proven ocean]

[vivid vessel]

wtf nice emote

[jolly geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/rinauchis-cocobearkins-gif-16860191433504714497

[glass mortar]

oh its from another one of the rando wow guilds im still in the discord of after pugging years ago

classic

[jolly geyser]

[glass mortar]

[frail veldt]

casuals rise up

[jolly geyser]

[glass mortar]

idk whats weirder that the only twerk emote i see is a boomkin, or that it isnt even from druid discord

[lime lake]

why does it look like a digimon

[glass mortar]

honestly no clue maybe it isnt a boomkin, its from a friends random group of friends discord so its not like, themed

is it a digimon?

it looks like a chicken to me except not nearly fat enough

[lime lake]

oh idk what digimon look like

it just looks like an offbrand pokemon

so i called it a digimon

[keen belfry]

I’m casually
Him

[frail veldt]

himothy

nothing more satisfying than beating a sweat who you know doesnt have a job and plays 24/7

[near rock]

real

[hard pelican]

I have UI question what buff do guys track to see what number of roll the bones ur on? all mine shows is how long it last I am probably just missing it but any help would be appreciated

[gaunt phoenix]

the icon should change

stage 1, stage 2, stage 3, jackpot

[strong bolt]

change from tracked timer to buff and you'll see the icons

[hard pelican]

so the number of dice is how you tell. It does change. Also when should I be using KIR?

[strong bolt]

anything above 2

[gaunt phoenix]

you use kir at stage 2

or more

[strong bolt]

2+*

[hard pelican]

Is there is a certain time I should use it like 5s left or just slam it right when I get 2

[gaunt phoenix]

slam

but in the opener, if you use preparation, and you roll stage 2, you should hold kir until the next roll

because you used preparation, your next roll will have loaded dice guarnateed, so will possibly be higher than 2

[hard pelican]

ah gotcha. So when should I just roll the bones how much time left in the buff?

[gaunt phoenix]

if you have stage 2 or higher, you just let it go until it runs out

if you have stage 1, you reroll immediately when able

[hard pelican]

ok easy enough. Thanks for all the input

[strong bolt]

if you have one and rtb is ready and AR is about to be off cd, prob worth waiting a couple globals, right solo?

[gaunt phoenix]

either way seems fine

[strong bolt]

o7

[gaunt phoenix]

as a vibe rule

if kir is ready or nearly ready i would wait for AR

if kir wont be ready i would gamble the early roll

cause if you roll early, and it's a good roll and you KIR it, then you will waste the loaded dice that AR gives you, it will run out before the KIR'd buff expires

[frail veldt]

ngl in aoe I almost feel overcapped on LD

I have 100% uptime on stage 2+

[cinder relic]

I really like that

[craggy barn]

lets say u still have an LD but ur at stage 2 or 3
ur AR is off CD
worth it to send a roll before AR?

[unkempt dew]

Stage 1 is the meh stage

[frail veldt]

whats duration left on the rtb buff

[craggy barn]

lets say 15+

[frail veldt]

howd you get adr back in 15s

[craggy barn]

previous rol was kir

[frail veldt]

oh nvm or you nattied a 2/3

sure

optiosn are to delay AR by 15s, or AR and waste an LD

[craggy barn]

feels weird either way

[frail veldt]

if its at like 3 seconds I'll just roll over the stage 2/3

if its stage 3 it might be worth to just adr and throw away one LD

cuz then you get 15s of stage 3 with faster gcd from adr

which is kinda huge for farming back adr

15s of stage 2 I think its prob delay adr instead of waste the LD

as long as the LD has enough time left on it

you woul dhave had to adr pretty recently

which idk how adr would be up

[craggy barn]

wonder how often this comes up

[frail veldt]

tbh adr is almost never up with LD up

so

cuz that would mean you farmed adr in <30s right?

has to be a prep condition

[craggy barn]

nah ive had it happen with just kiring stage 3 or jackpot in opener

or i guess on a natty roll

idk its def happened to me on ocasion

no prep

[frail veldt]

but your first roll is after adr

so if you have LD

how did you get adr off cd

having LD and already having adr farmed back is almost impossible right?

[craggy barn]

first pull of key

idk i havent been on recently to test that, but its for sure happened to me a few times last i was doing keys

[frail veldt]

in aoe ive only had it happen with much lower buff duration left

never 15s

but yeah def feelscraft for that im sure once season starts and people actually play we will start playing around with these corner cases in the apl

but they would have to actually happen in the sim

[craggy barn]

yea

[glass mortar]

i mean im psure they do happen in the sim?

doesnt the patchwerk sim munch 1 LD on average over a 5 minute window

[gaunt phoenix]

what's the question?

[wintry solar]

@mighty pivot

[craggy barn]

this was the question solo

[mighty pivot]

multicolour beans press them

[craggy barn]

with my limited apl experience
its a +42 dps increase to reroll stage 2 at <5secs if ld and adren are up in 5 target cleave

huge gains

[upper hawk]

how bout them apl's

[frail veldt]

you think blizz will ever come after sims for being an unfair advantage and that players feel forced to sim their character to find the best talents/gear

[craggy barn]

third party tool, what are they gonna do

[frail veldt]

not publish spell data lol

[craggy barn]

backwards engineer them

[wintry solar]

Imagine wow but what you see is what you get. No sims, no nothing.

[craggy barn]

vanilla experience

never happening

again

if blizz stopped publishing spell data, we have enough old data that we understand how things kinda work and can probably make rudimentary sims for new stuff

will they be accurate anymore?

nah

[leaden sonnet]

Sounds like a blizzard move, as it really doesnt do that much to stop simming

Besides making it more annoying to develop them

[craggy barn]

they can only do so much at this point

theyd also have to get rid of logs to prevent us from digging

but that will probably cause other issues lol

[frail veldt]

just like the addon change 🙂

[leaden sonnet]

correct

[craggy barn]

theres no real solution aside from wow2

[pastel sierra]

If they try to stop that people will just re-engineer it

[frail veldt]

you mean like addons

[fathom bramble]

people will always try to derive or sim the best thing somehow anyway

[frail veldt]

🙂

[fathom bramble]

in a game this big I doubt it could be stopped

[pastel sierra]

Nah its gotta be hosted spreadsheets like profession profit calculators are rn

[fathom bramble]

now if sims couldn't just consume all that tasty spelldata it would make it a lot harder ofc

but never impossible

[pastel sierra]

So a step before addons

[frail veldt]

wat

wouldnt it be the same 3rd party websites

why would that part change

[pastel sierra]

They specifically break that one idk

[frail veldt]

I mean im mostly joking I just think its funny to think about

[vestal notch]

do you know the page that is?

[desert tendon]

if you re not 7io per /played hour dont @me