outlaw

[wintry solar]

but yeah I would lolol

[frail veldt]

that makes you invulnerable

[glass mortar]

that crown she was cooking on in her house...

BLIZZARD COOKING A ROGUE REWORK CONFIRMED???

only possible explanation

[wintry solar]

DOOOD

obv

retail rocks

I love uppers

I wonder if they'll make an Ozzy tribute since he was in the Wrath commercials

[severe charm]

i mean they will prolly give him the robin williams treatment and have some obsure quest line for him

[wintry solar]

they gave male undeads his hair

[ashen void]

Rogue tank

[wintry solar]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bubu-bonk

[lime lake]

rogue tank

[severe charm]

just rework subt into a bard already

[ashen void]

No no rework subt into a medium ranged dagger throwing spec

[glass mortar]

i mean id love rogue tank but i dont think it should happen because we already have 3 leather tanks and frankly most of the rogue tank "flavor" is already encompassed by them

[wintry solar]

@cinder relic Guy when he doesnt lie

[glass mortar]

avoidance and whatnot

a short/range pure pistol gunner spec could be fun but i feel like it might overlap outlaw too much also so they wouldnt do it

[wintry solar]

please blizzard

[lime lake]

underlight angler holy

[wintry solar]

its RIGHT THERE

this is legion classic tease

[glass mortar]

nah this is a legion remix tease

they just 4got

[wintry solar]

oh yeah

[glass mortar]

wait

popo

[wintry solar]

except this time itll have recolored artifact

[glass mortar]

legion remix classic

[wintry solar]

[low glade]

legion remix classic season of discovery anniversary re-release

stoked!

pumped for TWW classic

[wintry solar]

prop hunt hype

[mighty pivot]

there is another one later on the wall

[wintry solar]

oooo

I have it mogged as we speak

[lime lake]

two dreadblades wtf

[fossil lintel]

rogue tank? nah, rogue healer. Make bandage spec a reality

[wintry solar]

see?

I got receipts

[mighty pivot]

why is that dog sniffing your butt tho

[wintry solar]

thats how they greet

duh

[frail veldt]

https://x.com/drineywow/status/2016683251331436598?s=46

Liquid Driney (@DrineyWoW)

Am I reading these patch notes correctly? Did they just scrap everything they changed for Hpal in midnight just to revert it all back to exactly what we have now in TWW? Hahaha good prank blizz

X · Jan 29, 2026, 1:22 AM

rofl whats going on with hpal

[wintry solar]

ninjarobot casually dropping he knows nothin about dogs

[lime lake]

mostly pain

[glass mortar]

????

mf has never met a dog in their life

[lime lake]

good summary

[mighty pivot]

I've met popo (online)

[glass mortar]

not dog

ok but popo=poop

[lime lake]

popo is dog not a dog

[mighty pivot]

he's both

[wintry solar]

you havent checked offtopic lately

[mighty pivot]

(dogshit)

[wintry solar]

WOW

[kind otter]

if these are my stats unbuffed what flask do i send?

[glass mortar]

crit prob

[frail veldt]

loooooooooool

[inland meteor]

will they shut down the discord

[lime lake]

no they arent rets

[kind otter]

ty

[wintry solar]

brawlers guild popping off

I gotta kill something with no weapons

[lime lake]

beat dippy to death with your fists

[lunar thorn]

Well I guess I can log in for free this weekend if I want

[wintry solar]

I'm gonna use him for my hitless fight as well

[wintry solar]

random opponent

B)

[pastel sierra]

maybe just shut down the discord again, could help

[lime lake]

no then they cant advertise their new data selling partner

[low glade]

Y'all have fun with your raids or your pvp or your keys

I'm in the waiting room for prop hunt ✌️🤣

[vivid vessel]

popo hunt ?

let me get on that

[wintry solar]

facts

someone pin this

if theres a ranking system im r1

[frail veldt]

only thing youre r1 in is being = poop

[wintry solar]

you dont even know what r1 means

[indigo token]

release 1

as in release poop

[frail veldt]

aaah yes r1 is slang for = poop

[low glade]

will there be a HoF for prop hunt?

[frail veldt]

then you are r1

[wintry solar]

sorry I cant hear you, im listening to the Bo1 Zombies soundtrack

aka peak

I should get an 8 string guitar

[ebon reef]

am i tripping or does it seem like outlaw remains as one of the only few specs that require more than 2 keybinds

[wintry solar]

yeah its just baseline outlaw

[patent mirage]

dont you have a nintendo controller

[wintry solar]

normally when its like this theres borrowed power to spice it up but its gone

[patent mirage]

fury is similar

[wintry solar]

unholy gameplay is exactly the same as well

95% the same

[keen belfry]

Remember fellowship

[wintry solar]

havent tried blood yet but people say it sucks so

[wintry solar]

favorite lotr

[ebon reef]

seems like current builds just dont use subterfuge

and less random rtb

ngl i prefer blade rush over ghostly strikes

[ebon reef]

is it?

idrk how warriors work

[patent mirage]

very

same amount of buttons pretty much

[ebon reef]

i always imagined fury having like bladestorm and rampage bound to one key and thats it

[patent mirage]

but ofc fury is fun

bloodthirst , raging blow , thunder clap if thane , reckless

avatar

they even use rend now

[keen belfry]

Return of the king is objectively the best of the 3

[wintry solar]

yeah its very similar to bfa minus wits and rtb reroll rules

and other small things

[wintry solar]

thats a viable opinion

[patent mirage]

ah yes wits

[keen belfry]

Opinions are rarely objective but this one is

[patent mirage]

fun times

we even had the meme spec with snake eyes

[wintry solar]

bfa outlaw was great

oh well

not SL good though

[chilly atlas]

uncapped bladeflurry with acro, pog

[wintry solar]

everytime I listen to the Bo1 Zombies soundtrack it 100% always leads to Black Label Society

literally everytime

on youtube and spotify

[wintry solar]

im telling you

these new fellers just dont know

[glass mortar]

what do u mean dont know

[chilly atlas]

then they made talent trees and needed to fill nodes so they gave acro to undeserving specs and then they took it away from everyone

[glass mortar]

do u think anyone in here would be angry if bf got uncapped or we got acro back

havent a majority of the 1tps been wanting one or both of those things for years

[wintry solar]

no I meant bfa outlaw

[glass mortar]

oh u mean they just didnt experience it

they still want it tho 😠

[wintry solar]

ye

you know what?

im gonna disagree with you anyway

even though I agree

[chilly atlas]

can't let them be right

[wintry solar]

absolutely not

actually

you know what?

!ban @glass mortar

[glass mortar]

u wanna fight? ill put u in the dirt

u aint shit popo 😠

wait popo=poop

you are shit ohno

[craggy barn]

fight!

[wintry solar]

I play the long game

im always 1 step ahead

[ebon reef]

nicu

[glass mortar]

ive heard mixed things about it

it doesnt have any interactions with the toolkit its just a button u press now ig

assuming ur not the thunderclap hero talent where i think u just auto apply it anyway

[ebon reef]

i didnt try every single spec but some of them seem too dumbed down

which i cant stand

i just hope they buff outlaws single target so i dont feel like im hitting with a marshmallow

[lime lake]

i wish we had a marshmallow sword transmog

[jolly geyser]

play something else

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel what happened in the podcast

[vivid vessel]

nothing

ion jerked off his team a bit

[jolly geyser]

roadmap,info to returning players

[glass mortar]

only real announcements of note were uh

1 boss raid is happening at some point idr when

megadungeon esque delves later in the expac

anything else hmmm

[chilly atlas]

im using sensei and my combo points disappeared, weird

[gaunt phoenix]

Use wangbar !

[glass mortar]

awangangangangangangbar is ready?

[gaunt phoenix]

more customizable and faster !

[glass mortar]

[gaunt phoenix]

Uses events not cpu !

[chilly atlas]

where can i grab this wangbar?

[gaunt phoenix]

Wangbar on curseforge

[mighty pivot]

the dark portal decor has collision issues

[glass mortar]

i mean

they basically announced no new UI changes until 12.0.7 or w/e because they need to focus on bugs in 12.0

can u imagine how much of a disaster the code must be behind the scenes

for them to willingly announce that

have they ever drawn out a roadmap where the first seasons main feature announced was "dealing with bugs"

what do u expect

[chilly atlas]

i mean it was already spaghetti, now its confetti i guess?

[jolly geyser]

glitter bomb prevention

[chilly atlas]

you open up the compiler and your screen explodes and you are covered with glitter

[wintry solar]

ace lowkey goin brrrrr today

todays a good ace seed

[glass mortar]

[narrow blaze]

hey, anyone can recommend a RTB tracker ? or is there nothing fancy out there

[gaunt phoenix]

It's the same as any other buff in the cooldown manager

So you can either use the raw CMD or some addon that lets you customize it a bit more

Like bettercooldownmanager

[glass mortar]

awangangangcooldownmanager when

[vagrant pilot]

!bug

[ornate heath]

[Outlaw bug Thread](#1276315296159760467 message)

[keen belfry]

Solo is the biggest wangbar truth spreader

[glass mortar]

ok but have u considered workshopping the name or

is it set in stone

[keen belfry]

I looked into this, it seems super hard

[keen belfry]

It was this or awangs cp addon

So

[glass mortar]

hmm

[narrow blaze]

the point it, i find it hard to determine which stage i rolled

[keen belfry]

The icons have obvious colors and little designs, I’d make it bigger and try and just remember. Or enable it as a bar and it tells you 1234

[mighty pivot]

is it purple? if not then just don't reroll

[gaunt phoenix]

It's 4 different buffs

[glass mortar]

wait wtf purple is the worst one?

u n p l a y a b l e

[narrow blaze]

KIR on stage 2+ or higher ?

[keen belfry]

Jackpot and 3 of kind are banger icons btw

[gaunt phoenix]

Stage 3 has 3 dice

[lime lake]

Yellow is the best one though

Very thematic

[keen belfry]

Yeah jackpot icon is banger

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah

[mighty pivot]

why isn't jackpot 4 dice

[lime lake]

The larger die simply ate the smaller, weaker dice

[upper hawk]

die bart, die

[patent mirage]

dnd dice?

[inland meteor]

@keen belfry would u mind exporting ur arcui profile?

[keen belfry]

Rn I’m just using better cooldown manager

With hd icons

[inland meteor]

ah alright

[keen belfry]

i had a decent one but pc reset lost it

[narrow blaze]

i can forget about thistle tea and leave it on full auto ?

[rotund depot]

are the whispers true that wangbar got updates

[lime lake]

Wangbar has more wang than ever

Its true

[rotund depot]

oh man goated af

does this mean I can shrink the gap between cp and energy

[glass mortar]

yea pretty much

[keen belfry]

Yess

[keen belfry]

Shit let me add that today

Why no official complaint

[rotund depot]

heard your psu exploded and didn't wanna nag lol

[fathom bramble]

I did think of one thing last night @keen belfry

can we get changing background opacity ?

[rotund depot]

and saw others had mentioned it so figured it was on the radar

[river maple]

How is outlaw feeling ?

[fathom bramble]

so close to replicating my old WA

[inland meteor]

am i the only one getting the white combo point after activating AR

[fathom bramble]

once my energy/CP bar is fixed outlaw will be perfect

[frail veldt]

its similar to DF s1/s2

[keen belfry]

Wangbar is for the people

[frail veldt]

its a very simplified builder/spender rotation compared to tww so if tww was overwhelming for you or too much work then you might like this version more

[rotund depot]

wangbar truther

[frail veldt]

but if tww was fun and felt like good skill expression to you then you will prob hate midnight

[keen belfry]

Mewo what should I get from micro center

Qol thing

[wintry solar]

an AI gf

[keen belfry]

Already have

[wintry solar]

dude we just get Lua errors logging on these days

[rotund depot]

gotta highroll for the money frame lua bricking

[keen belfry]

Not with wangbar

[inland meteor]

get buggrabber or something like that, what u cant see cant hurt u

[rotund depot]

like gear tooltips when blizz UI bricks them

[wintry solar]

oh yeah I have all my addons disabled

[mighty pivot]

when wangbar adds crackshot and 2 AR charges it will be perfect

[rotund depot]

SoonTM

[keen belfry]

Can do

[wintry solar]

locked in title

[mighty pivot]

terrible title, just like I expected from you

[wintry solar]

get ragebaited dood

you got so baited

[inland meteor]

owned

[mighty pivot]

mhmmm

[wintry solar]

this guy gets it

im an outlaw idiot

[mighty pivot]

popo sweating rn

[wintry solar]

obv this is locked in

[keen belfry]

I feel bad for gapping sensei

[tender wedge]

Mr Wang are you planning on making it possible to decouple the CPs from the energy bar or allow to reduce the gap?

[keen belfry]

Like he got turbo glided piss chillin on

[vivid vessel]

wang

if your addon is good

and i can remove the energy bar

i might use it

if better cdm doesnt allow for more customisation

[keen belfry]

My thoughts have been decoupling or simply allowing just y offset

[keen belfry]

This would be easy

[tender wedge]

Yeah that’s perfect

[mighty pivot]

just add an offset ye

[keen belfry]

Y offset seems like the better play yeah

[tender wedge]

No gap suits my ui aesthetics better

[vivid vessel]

i want to be able to anchor it to any other frame so i can anchor it to other addon energy bar i think

hmge

[mighty pivot]

release zacbar to create competition and speed up progress

[tender wedge]

Havent we had enough “competition” in the last couple of weeks 😂

[inland meteor]

competition breeds innovation

[tender wedge]

Competition breeds ctrl c ctrl v apparently

[inland meteor]

this is what we need in the rogue resource bar scene

where are my rgb lighting combo points to show that im an epic gamer

[fathom bramble]

you can have rainbow combo points on the wangbar

[inland meteor]

but i need actual lighting

[keen belfry]

Is anchoring easy

[vivid vessel]

yes

you already do it most likely

[mighty pivot]

my combo point addon will sync with a plug to vibrate at 6+ combo points

[vivid vessel]

you just dont know it

[rotund depot]

release date when

[vivid vessel]

@keen belfry

thats the anchor right

and thats jsut the name of a frame

[mighty pivot]

31 april 2026

[vivid vessel]

UIParent is the general UI so like nothing

but you could jsut put anything in here

[rotund depot]

h..hey...

[glass mortar]

zac finna take wangbar and squish it down so its 25% wider and 50% shorter and post zacbar

finally real competition 👏 👏

[mighty pivot]

that will bring them closer together and they will start dating

[glass mortar]

hmm

i ship it

[inland meteor]

whats the couple name

wac

[jolly geyser]

wack

since awang is awank

[wintry solar]

the biggest casualty of the addonpocalypse

[torn lichen]

Just change the version to 120001?

[glass mortar]

[keen belfry]

Okay so I’ll add Y offset to energy, background opacity, and anchoring??

[torn lichen]

or is it truly dead

[wintry solar]

not all is lost

Yarrr still works

[wintry solar]

dead dead

[keen belfry]

What does Weran need from wangbar

[ebon reef]

certainly not as bad as what sub was hit with

[frail veldt]

Depends who you ask lol

[ebon reef]

yeah true

i prefered the skill expression which was kinda gutted so outlaw for me seems to be the next closest thing to being able to do that since im also a bit dookie with it

to each their own but it seems like a lot of ppl dont like midnight

all i hope for is for blizz to pull back on some of the ui restrictions

[inland meteor]

a wangwich

[waxen scarab]

any macro for tricks on tank?

[frail veldt]

yeah theres def a mix

I will say though, a lot of people are hyped in that stuff is new

same way its exciting to play an alt for the first time

but I have a feeling the lack of depth of the specs as a whole will make the gameplay enjoyment fade very quickly

like I just cant imagine progging or pushing m+ on a spec where you were doing the rotation perfectly from the first week of playing

[tropic zephyr]

Banger dwich

[wintry solar]

okay fine I'll download your addon awang

damn

so persistent

[upper surge]

Has @glass mortar resubbed for labyrinth?

[upper surge]

Schlotzsky's?

[keen belfry]

Marty’s

[wintry solar]

thought I was being patriotic but it made me look french or dutch

[inland meteor]

a reverse french flag

[wintry solar]

or sideways netherlands

spiderman ui inc

ty bartender

[patent mirage]

the correct french flag is only white though

[wintry solar]

dude

holy save

I'll rep the Dutch

the 7th cp is fuckin with me

[glass mortar]

sounds cool but if the classes arent fun to play whats the point

[upper surge]

Dev is fun, want me to teach it?

[glass mortar]

i dont trust blizzard to find a way to make stuff resembling challenging solo content when theyve deleted classes toolkits so much

[upper surge]

Also hunters say survival is fun

[glass mortar]

how do u even interact with the npcs

[upper surge]

I raid lead them twice a week

[glass mortar]

survival is a disaster idk everyone i see saying its fun is just licking the feet of their new pull out a shotgun and blast ability

which is gross ability to give to survival and certainly doesnt sell the spec at all to me (doesnt ruin it either tho)

just doesnt make up for everything else they did to it

[upper surge]

I think you're just mad

[glass mortar]

dev ive heard mixed things

[upper surge]

Someone needs to pet you

[glass mortar]

kinda cringe they removed all ur defensives tho

[frail veldt]

honestly though I think survivals "identity" has been as lost as outlaws

spear wielding, bomb throwing, raptor striking, pet commanding

[upper surge]

You're living in a world of negativity because IRL sucks and there are people in this channel who are just constantly mad, but there are plenty of people out there who feel positive and are excited and interested if you can get yourself out of the hell hole

[glass mortar]

i mean its not the spaces im in

i played WW on beta

and survival

[frail veldt]

like what is the core survival gameplay to you @glass mortar

[glass mortar]

and outlaw

and it was all boring drivel compared to live

[frail veldt]

is it wildfire bombs?

[glass mortar]

and now it is live

so the struggle is my own

[upper surge]

Evoker feels exactly like it did in df with an extra button and I'm all for it

[glass mortar]

i mean ur apex talent is an abomination, i played dev the season u had that tier set

it was ass

and absolute garbage in dungeons

but the core rotation is largely intact and fine

i mostly didnt like then snipping away ur defensives

by a massive degree

[upper surge]

Who cares? So there's some conflict between an apex talent and chain pulling, that makes me hate the specialization? No of course not

[frail veldt]

low standards ig

[upper surge]

My standard is am I having fun and I will be having fun

[frail veldt]

like I said

[upper surge]

Imagine playing a video game for fun

Crazy

[glass mortar]

i might be more toxic to apex then you because i played shadow priest for like 8 years of voidform and any effect similar to it is just poison to me now

[frail veldt]

complacent af

[glass mortar]

right thats why i stopped playing. not having fun, dont respect how the devs are treating the design cycle

only way to pay is with ur wallet

[patent mirage]

we cant have different opinions here

[frail veldt]

I mean you can acknowledge the issue

[haughty wigeon]

https://x.com/dalaran_rogue/status/2016939980061319372?s=46&t=eUhbptsC-Nuuv7pS9RIYtQ

Dalaran the Rogue (@dalaran_rogue)

this animation is actually peak rogue

X · Jan 29, 2026, 6:22 PM

[frail veldt]

"well im having fun so you should stop complaining"

its the most non argument ever

[glass mortar]

nah i know what hes saying

[upper surge]

Which is perfectly fine for you, If you genuinely aren't having fun that's fine. But you and I are having a slightly different conversation then the person who is crying right now

[haughty wigeon]

No wonder no rogue changes

[wintry solar]

besides,

[haughty wigeon]

Yall got a cinematic

[frail veldt]

but would you have had less fun if they fixed that issue @upper surge

[wintry solar]

this only applies to me

[frail veldt]

or would the game have just been better for BOTH You and weran

[wintry solar]

only when IM having fun yall should stop complaining

[frail veldt]

^

thats what yall sound like

[glass mortar]

if im being honest with my frustrations keeping me from wanting to even log in or support blizzard with any money at this point it goes far beyond them dumping on all the specs i like

[frail veldt]

unironically

[glass mortar]

you should not, as a designer, apply a game wide change of this level to every spec if you arent going to even iterate on half the specs

there is zero chance you got it right the first try

[patent mirage]

if you thought outlaw would stay as it was for longer you were naive tbh

[frail veldt]

"I cant believe you would complain about blizzard making a talent not function in m+, just dont play if youa rent having fun. Cant believe you complainers"

[fathom bramble]

they didn't need to peel back every layer all at once and leave a half finished tree though

change was coming for sure, but it didn't have to be this

[frail veldt]

"as an only raider myself I think you should just stop complaining because im not capable of understanding your perspective"

[fathom bramble]

and it didn't have to be to every spec in the game on the same patch

[frail veldt]

"im having fun which means the spec is correct"

"if you dont like it then its YOUR fualt not blizzards"

[glass mortar]

thats my biggest frustration. if we were going through 1 or even 5-6 at a time to redesign specs to be simpler but complete fine

[upper surge]

You're presenting a false binary position and putting words in my mouth. I said that he should try to get out of the hyper negative headspace in this channel. I didn't say that concerns were not valid. I said that if he still has fun, he should play. I didn't say that he shouldn't express valid concerns. I said that I'm playing because I'm still having fun. I didn't say that I don't have concerns. But to you it seems like I have to be gigaDoomer oh my god everything is the fucking end of the universe I can't believe they're doing this to me This is the worst thing ever to happen in my entire life or I'm disrespecting the fact that you're like that

[patent mirage]

the entire stealth and uhuh thing would go

[glass mortar]

they just applied a generic "simplification" template to everyone in the game at once

[frail veldt]

how about we advocate for the spec getting better for multiple people at once lol

[glass mortar]

and then half of the specs that got these changes saw basically zero iteration over alpha into beta into live

[frail veldt]

crazy thought guys but maybe we want the spec to go forwards not sideways

[glass mortar]

so if your first iteration wasnt decent or even just good you are basically ghosted until an unknown date in the future

[frail veldt]

not sure why thats a hard concept

[glass mortar]

its a gross way to design the game

[upper surge]

Crazy thought actually read what I'm saying instead of making up doomer messages in your brain

[glass mortar]

its not a blizzard problem

[upper surge]

Not sure why that's a hard concept

[glass mortar]

not just a blizzard problem anyway

but its burned me out

[upper surge]

Engineered frustration is a good name for you.

[frail veldt]

youre dismissing his opinion because youre having fun and that hes wrong for "not just having fun in a video game"

its a non argument

[upper surge]

Twist

Do you feel like I dismissed your argument

[frail veldt]

It wasnt my argument it was werans

[upper surge]

Is your name twist?

[glass mortar]

i could see how someone reading our back and forth could see it that way but i dont because i know you and i know how we yap

its fine mewo we have a history of fighting

[upper surge]

I love this little furry boy

[frail veldt]

Im just using the situation to reflect on that general stance

lot of people do it

[upper surge]

And I miss raiding with him

[frail veldt]

its a very weak position

[patent mirage]

the cycle continues

[glass mortar]

if i was gunna come back itd probably be in 12.1 anyway when the PEAK content drops

[upper surge]

Then reflect on general stance instead of pretending like I'm saying something I'm not

[glass mortar]

so its not impossible

[frail veldt]

never did

[upper surge]

bruh lmao

Ok anyway

[keen belfry]

did i miss anything from that wow stream thjing

anyone tldr me

[wintry solar]

prop hunt

[keen belfry]

about stuff awang would care about

[frail veldt]

housing events, prop hunt

[glass mortar]

peak is coming in 12.1

[wintry solar]

thats it

[frail veldt]

oh then no

[keen belfry]

this all seems non awang stuff

[frail veldt]

nothing about combat or the competitive parts of the game

[fathom bramble]

state of the game was apparently state of housing

[glass mortar]

wtf delves r competative

[keen belfry]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[glass mortar]

theres even gunna be a CE for it now??

you guys are contentist

[keen belfry]

btw guys

[wintry solar]

retail is a game for collectors these days mhm mhm mhm

[frail veldt]

but the thing is wang if you arent having fun its your fault so

[fathom bramble]

idk what I expected, but I guess we arleady know most things I could care about anyway

so state of the game wasn't going to be much

[upper surge]

2 new 1 boss raids

[keen belfry]

i think it was 100% my mic causing the issues now

[upper surge]

Kinda pog

[glass mortar]

1 boss raid is cute yea

[frail veldt]

thats actually wild

[glass mortar]

i like it when they throw in random 1 or 2 boss raids

[frail veldt]

the mic did you dirty

[keen belfry]

yeah

[upper surge]

Plus one of them is zanger marsh

Which is a very cool aesthetic

[frail veldt]

I think the kyveza ?? thing was some of the most pve fun ive had in a while

[keen belfry]

well, so when u update bios/firmware sometimes it makes your power voltage stuff weird with sub ports

usb

[glass mortar]

yea honestly she was close to a 1 boss 1 person raid

[keen belfry]

so i have to use a usb hub now

[glass mortar]

that was a hell of a fight

[fathom bramble]

yeah it makes it easier for them to have different themes in the same tier

mix things up a bit

[glass mortar]

coulda done without it resetting a quarter of my tries but i chose that life

[frail veldt]

it was so fun

much better than the previous ?? they did

the one in undermine

that was boring af

[fathom bramble]

hopefully it isn't a long walk from 1 raid to the next though

just so a full clear isn't annoying

[glass mortar]

honestly an onyxia style raid where its just a big guy in a place that makes sense narratively and theres only a bit of trash

[frail veldt]

I like those

no trash

no bullshit

[glass mortar]

i think if they try to do it like a full raid tier with fucking 20 minutes of trash and running and shit

[frail veldt]

no reclearing garbage

[glass mortar]

never underestimate blizzards ability to drop the ball

[frail veldt]

just get to the good part

[glass mortar]

but it could be pretty good

[vivid vessel]

stfu bro

who is gonna read all that

drop the doc

[upper surge]

Bitch I will slap you

[frail veldt]

get got

[vivid vessel]

hope there is images in the doc this time

[keen belfry]

larias remember giving my guild advice in RLE

now here we are

in outlaw

this is my city.

[upper surge]

Im here to annoy weran

[keen belfry]

delve fan

[upper surge]

And to get muted for following the rules

[frail veldt]

is that even possible

[keen belfry]

larias got banned for promoting his spreadsheet

[frail veldt]

I feel like if you could get muted for following the rules I would have been muted long time ago

[upper surge]

I have managed it

[keen belfry]

i got applauded for proomoting wangbar

[frail veldt]

oh well thats against the rules

[keen belfry]

we arent the same Larias

[frail veldt]

dont break the rules duh

[keen belfry]

WANGBAR WANGBAR!

[glass mortar]

he was reacting to someone meme pinging him asking for the doc link at the time to be clear

[wintry solar]

Wangbar fight

[fathom bramble]

wangbar is for the people

[lime lake]

WANGBAR WANGBAR

[frail veldt]

sounds against the rules still

self promo

[wintry solar]

whats a good color for energy thats not yellow?

[fathom bramble]

green

[upper surge]

That's what Zac keeps trying to get me banned

[lime lake]

fuschia

[glass mortar]

purple

[upper surge]

Why *

[frail veldt]

brown for you

[wintry solar]

I was thinking green

[lime lake]

green is focus

cant use that

[latent oak]

i've used purple before ya

[fathom bramble]

my old bar was green and turned yellow/red at low energy

[wintry solar]

[fathom bramble]

but I think I prefer it to just be green

[latent oak]

like pastel purple

[glass mortar]

guys someone make me stop resonding to mafic on the forums

i dont even play this game right now

[wintry solar]

if you respond youre dumb

[glass mortar]

!!!!

ok that should stop me

[fathom bramble]

Mafics quest is to ruin the forums by driving people out

[glass mortar]

thanks poop

[latent oak]

did u get a refund the xpac weran

[fathom bramble]

and he is winning

[wintry solar]

yw

[upper surge]

If you respond you're straight

[glass mortar]

lolno they got me good

[latent oak]

lmao just refund it

[glass mortar]

pretty sure i got told that wont be possible but i could try again

who knows what CMs know

[upper surge]

Do a chargeback and get your account banned

[latent oak]

based

[glass mortar]

i bought it like 15 years ago i dont think i can do a chargeback at this point

i bought it as soon as it was available because i could not imagine not wanting to play the next wow expac

[upper surge]

Huh

[glass mortar]

they did a good job not announcing anything about the addon stuff or class changes before that

got me real good

gotta give it to em

[upper surge]

You should be doing housing You're a nerd

[glass mortar]

i would do housing if they fixed the funiture system

[upper surge]

You're never going to be able to afford one IRL

[latent oak]

my refund worked after they announced class stuff

[glass mortar]

it has too much friction for someone who isnt all that into it to play around with tho

[latent oak]

but it was fairly quickly after that

[glass mortar]

ooo maybe ill try

[upper surge]

Use plumber dumb dumb

[glass mortar]

i mean how you need to go and buy every single fucking piece of furniture u ever want to use

im all for 1 time purchases from vendors all around the world to collect

that can feel fun

if i ever need to go to bumbfuck corner of the map shadowlands to buy a thing i want a second time, or buy 5 of every piece just to use the shitty system

my interest is completely removed

it should be 1 time purchase to unlock, pay currency in the interface to make more

[fathom bramble]

you really should either get infinite copies of furniture you own or be able to buy more copies from within the housing menu

[latent oak]

they are saying if u've accepted the mounts and shit might be aids to do

if u got higher than the base edition

+idk how it works with the gametime included etc

[glass mortar]

and to be clear im not saying housing is shit

it wasnt something that was super exciting to me, so this fairly large bit of friction with the use of it is enough to sour it for me

[fathom bramble]

I mean housing is sick

[glass mortar]

if they ever improve it i will probably make a house

[fathom bramble]

but everything has its flaws

[glass mortar]

like if i play minecraft im happy to go out into the world and gather raw goods then craft everything from 1 interface to make buildings

i dont wanna play furniture collector everytime i need a new sofa

thats it

[lime lake]

they absolutely need to make this a thing

[glass mortar]

if i bought it i should be able to rebuy it easier

[lime lake]

having to travel around the world to find the vendor to buy 5 crates then realizing you actually needed 7

is just so silly

[glass mortar]

yup pretty much exactly that

i dont even mind the 1 time purchase

to unlock yn

and if u want it to be a goldsink thats fine, u can just make us spend gold in the building screen to add more of a type of funiture?

idk its stinky but im sure itll improve since its the main feature of the new expac

maybe i build a home down later in the expac

[lime lake]

also wasnt @wintry solar asking about the spooky thing before

this looks kinda spooky

viego coming to wow

[wintry solar]

yeah

all we know is 12.1.7

lamee

[wintry solar]

for sure*

been waiting for what feels like a million years

[frail veldt]

I hate this so much

[keen haven]

does anyone know how to track combo points with new blizzard ui?

[frail veldt]

yeah it honestly is killing the system for me

im just unmotivated to do housing stuff cuz Im expecting to hit annoying roadblocks where I have to stop doing the fun creative part and have to go out and do the shitty chore part

[wintry solar]

shop is displaying my mog

[frail veldt]

you own the mog that theyre selling?

[lime lake]

the bird is better dressed than you

[wintry solar]

Bel hush

[wintry solar]

no

well idk because my mog is replacing it

lol

schrodingers mog

[keen belfry]

@fathom bramble is this okay for opacity

[fathom bramble]

yeah

wangbar is for the people

[keen haven]

how are u doing this with the CP and energy bar

[narrow blaze]

do i want a dagger in offhand or is sword also fine? guess all proccs are normalized ?

[keen belfry]

okay, so ive added opacity, y offset, and ability to add a health bar if you want

[mighty pivot]

!oh

[fathom bramble]

not all procs are not normalized and we got more of them

[ornate heath]

A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of Zero In, and also slightly more Instant Poison procs. Energy is not affected by offhand speed.

It is possible large ilvl differences can matter more than this bonus so use Raidbots Top Gear when in doubt.

[fathom bramble]

dagger is now ~1% better

and the oh command is apparently also updated yay

[keen belfry]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/wangbar-resource-bars

[keen haven]

thx

[keen belfry]

that icon is so banger

[narrow blaze]

ty folks

[keen belfry]

WA
NG

[keen haven]

the only way with blizzard ui is to activate personal resource bar?

[strange kelp]

Awesome, now I just need you to do the other 5 classes I want to play!

[fathom bramble]

blizzard ui personal resource bar has no customization

if you want one that looks get just get wangbar

[keen haven]

oke

[keen belfry]

i think im gonna add it for arcane mage charges, windwalker chi, feral combo points (might already be added), uhhhh i wish i could do enhance

[fathom bramble]

holy power maybe?

[strange kelp]

Maybe... Maybe a surv hunter? 🤔

[fathom bramble]

actually there's no chance I play ret like this

idc about holy power

[keen belfry]

id have to work on the UI part and how it words everything, i wonder what i could do

cause rn its hard coded values like combo points

[strange kelp]

Ah, still a sweet addon

Thanks

[keen belfry]

@vivid vessel

[strange kelp]

I know sensei added support for surv tip of the spear and I think enh maelstrom, not sure from a technical stance on how

But it seems doable

[keen belfry]

i heard maelstrom broke, but i should check

id be curious as to how they did maelstrom

as its a buff

[strange kelp]

I think it's predictive

[mighty pivot]

it's whitelisted to not be secret

[strange kelp]

Don't quote my lack of addon knowledge

But I think it can say "KC gives two tip, when KC pressed add 2"

As opposed to reading the buff itself

[keen belfry]

cuz i dont think u can predict maelstrom

[keen belfry]

hmm

[vivid vessel]

whatdehelly

[gaunt field]

😎

[tender wedge]

Hard to do predictions for ele maelstrom since overloads make it so variable

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel suck my balls

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-10752308781598257595

[vivid vessel]

wtf

[strange kelp]

Enh is pretty predictive tho isn't it?

[tender wedge]

Maelstrom weapon for enhance is a stacking buff on character though but I believe they whitelisted it yeah

Why would you need predictive, it’s guaranteed from a few abilities and can proc from aa / wf hits

It that’s all instant stuff

So not sure what you’re wanting to predict

[strange kelp]

I mean if it's whitelisted you don't have to predict anything lol

[tender wedge]

Oh I see where you’re coming from

No it can be a wee bit random

Just needs to be treated differently from regular class resource which is why the complexity comes in

[mighty pivot]

afaik it's only maelstrom weapon, and some devourer stuff which are whitelisted from class abilities

[tender wedge]

Need to finish work so I can rush home and play with my wangbar

[plain oyster]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[keen haven]

how does new roll the bones work, i only get to stage 1 or 2

[fathom bramble]

luck

[tender wedge]

Skill

[fathom bramble]

you get a random stage

[keen haven]

damn

[fathom bramble]

lower numbers are more common

[keen haven]

thx

[tender wedge]

But you generally dont need to reroll on anything other than sad stage 1

More detail in guides

[mighty pivot]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

• Use Adrenaline Rush to activate Loaded Dice.
• As Trickster, use KS to activate Disorienting Strikes.
• Do NOT use RTB before the key, you will lose it.

[keen belfry]

zac idk how to allow this addon to anchor to custom frames, i have a preset list of like playerframe targetframe etc but idk how i could allow it to anchor to addons like BCM @vivid vessel

[keen haven]

thx

[wintry solar]

who up playing with they wangbar?

[keen belfry]

me me me!

[wintry solar]

yall aint gonna believe this

[lime lake]

im not even playing rogue atm but i downloaded wangbar to show my support

[wintry solar]

but trying not to take damage in brawlers guild is hard af

[lime lake]

we love wangbar in this household

[jolly geyser]

oh you can react the faq

[mighty pivot]

you had a textbox posted in a picture before, the input from that should work to anchor it

[keen belfry]

how can i get the input from an addon into there? just typing?

im trying to setup a click ability thing

[strange kelp]

Such a non outlaw player

[fathom bramble]

I'm not sure our apex is mid though

most specs have an apex that does nothing at all

you can at least tell you are talented into outlaws at least

[jolly geyser]

dunno what class im playing yet

[keen belfry]

i think if an apex's best part is its energy help its mid mid

[fathom bramble]

most I've looked at I should say

mid just requires a frame of reference

comparing it to most expansion features/borrowed power of the past it's mid

compared to other apexs talents it might even be good

[keen belfry]

tru

[mossy herald]

Can't get rid of gcd swipe with bcm can you?

[fathom bramble]

arcui can

[plain oyster]

kinda dumb question, but you use trinket with ar right?

[fathom bramble]

if you can't find a way for bcm to

[mossy herald]

[mighty pivot]

typing yes. I think WAs had a "click to select frame" kind of functionality, using GetMouseFoci to get what's under the mouse. But because there can be many frames under the cursor you'd have to iterate through that if you want to be thorough

[wintry solar]

idk what its called but maybe someone knows

but

I wish grapple's reticle has something similar for max distance but for walls instead of it saying "path not available"

if my cursor is at a wall, just grapple me next to the wall

[mighty pivot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/5pGd4XRmJY1Zt1Lv00

[keen belfry]

this is what i trying to do

[wintry solar]

my mouse sensitivity is too high for grapple and if I lower it, its too slow for everything else

[mighty pivot]

are you one of those people who move their mouse 1cm and they do a 180 popo?

[wintry solar]

👀

no

im also getting tilted

[mighty pivot]

how? I thought you were the PMA guy along with guy guy

[vivid vessel]

you already do it rn with a textzone

[upper hawk]

what is a 180 popo

[vivid vessel]

you can put a little text to tell people that you can /fstack to see frames

[wintry solar]

idk what pma is so im taking that as an insult

[vivid vessel]

weak aura did the thing so that it was automated you could click frames

but thats kinda whatever

just tell people to /fstack

[wintry solar]

whats pma

[mighty pivot]

google it

[wintry solar]

eh

[mighty pivot]

duckduckgo it

[wintry solar]

pass

[mighty pivot]

ok noob

[wintry solar]

youre literally blue

[rotund depot]

blue (derogatory)

[mighty pivot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/question-editors-ljSSxlYrMA7ss

[wintry solar]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-yellow-jujutsurole-jjk-roles-gif-10818595460643990018

[mighty pivot]

how is that for a worgen name?

[wintry solar]

when they say you cant take damage you literally cannot take dmg

may have to swap to my dk..

no I shant

[mighty pivot]

@vivid vessel have you seen in fuu's sim sheet how insane skyfury is now for outlaw

[vivid vessel]

not surprised

[mighty pivot]

ye

[keen belfry]

how much

[mighty pivot]

something something skill expression

[keen belfry]

man

I HAET RAID BUFFS

[mighty pivot]

ST top dslice bot

[pastel sierra]

Soo

[strange kelp]

How is hunters mark only .3?

Is that AOE?

[keen belfry]

phsy comp buffs = >16% dmg buff

surely u can balance around that!

[pastel sierra]

Brew, resto, dps war, dps shaman, outlaw

[mighty pivot]

0.3 is for dungeon slice but that 0.7 on ST seems low too

[lime lake]

yeah idk how its that low

feels like its not updated for midnight hunters mark

[pastel sierra]

Hunters mark is horrible

Or wait they changed it

[lime lake]

its legit just flat 3% at all times now

[strange kelp]

Still 3%

[lime lake]

not just above 80%

[gaunt phoenix]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[mighty pivot]

it was the old version, fuu checked

[keen belfry]

this is how im gonna play for a month

[buoyant stratus]

I mean when melees are in your top 3 damage done, and maingauche is goodish, skyfury go brrr

[gaunt phoenix]

not sure the state of hunter stuff in simc

[round spindle]

I'm not that sophisticated, is the spreadsheet saying assassination and outlaw are almost the same on both ST and DSlice?

[mighty pivot]

don't compare sims between different specs

[lime lake]

too late

[wintry solar]

im comparin rn as we speak

[mighty pivot]

it is illegal

[wintry solar]

wowzers

[keen belfry]

im gonna compare

[wintry solar]

im sooo comparing

[keen belfry]

its everywhere

[mighty pivot]

you are comparing what?

[frank finch]

how much dps did we get from lust b4 pre patch

almost as much dps from lust as monk buff

we back?

[gaunt phoenix]

That's over 5 minutes too

[frank finch]

do pi next

[keen belfry]

now solo

NOW

PI NOW

[untold wadi]

damn son

sex in my pantaloons

[coarse parcel]

swag

finally fixed dark icon

[keen belfry]

Nice addon

[coarse parcel]

what you used @keen belfry ?

[keen belfry]

u need to replaec that combo point addon

and use wangbar

[coarse parcel]

yeah

didn't tried it yet

I need to replace this yellow shit aswell

didn't find any solution yet

[haughty wigeon]

@glass mortar i salute your attempt

mafic is a plague for rogues, he will never understand

[vivid vessel]

ugly UI delete !

[vivid vessel]

i do have a solution

actually

you want ?

its paid

i share only if you sub to my patreon

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/wills-cdm

let you remove the buffs from icons

[coarse parcel]

[coarse parcel]

lemme check that

[upper hawk]

there's an app for that

[coarse parcel]

@vivid vessel what color you used now

[vivid vessel]

wdym

[vivid vessel]

oh no uh

you can disbale it fully i think

this no ?

otherwise idk just make it transparnet

[keen belfry]

is this good

[vivid vessel]

idk but it can remvoe the auras

from the cds

[coarse parcel]

uhu

[rich crane]

how did you put BF and rolls on the right ?

[arctic merlin]

hello, i see thistle tea is not to be touched, is there a talent that consumes it automatically? i'm confused why it's automatic

[patent lion]

it auto procs at 30 energy

part of the talent

[keen belfry]

Arcui

[arctic merlin]

oh im very blind, i thought it was separate

[coarse parcel]

it partially work

wth

[arctic merlin]

so in world content, it's ok to generate cps with ambush, even without HO, right? or am i just not using my spells properly

[vivid vessel]

no

never press ambush

!ambush

[ornate heath]

It is possible to use a macro to cast Ambush during Stealth/Audacity and Sinister Strike otherwise, instead of using the stealth bar:
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
*This is most useful to swap between HO and KIR builds without changing keybinds.
Stance swap delay is, for now, not an issue since we don't want to cast vanish into ambush anymore.

[vivid vessel]

nvm

i forgot the command

but

basically

ambush does not generate fan the hammer

or proc

if you arent talented into ho

so its very inneficient

[arctic merlin]

remove it from my bar type of never press it?

[vivid vessel]

ye

unless you have ho talented

you never press it

ever

[coarse parcel]

PERFECTO

thanks zague

[gaunt phoenix]

zachque

[undone notch]

How much worse is HO than other builds?

[rich crane]

Thanks!

[arctic merlin]

so how do i generate combo point when i fight a mob i don't want to use cds on

[vivid vessel]

np

sinister strike

and ps with procs

[arctic merlin]

thanks for the tips, it makes a lot more sense now, the rotation feels cleaner and faster

is there a way to keep track of roll the bones procs? i don't tend to use many addons at all and even though i like pushing higher keys i've never been a fan of any addons apart from clique and an tell me when

[vivid vessel]

well the buff is in the cdm idnt it

[covert kestrel]

Ye it is

[arctic merlin]

completely forgot about that, i've never really used it, but just tried it and it's v useful, thank you

[desert tendon]

i u really wanna go french

donc call him Zacque

it's Jacques now

[granite merlin]

I need this in my life is this elv ui?

[coarse parcel]

nah, unhalted and better cdm

not on pc right now but can send you profile tomorrow

[granite merlin]

Love you

[coarse parcel]

remind me bc I will 100% forget

[granite merlin]

I was messing with arcui and basically blew up my wow

[coarse parcel]

ngl you only need unhalted and bcdm atm

then most thing will be fixed on elvui for midnight

[quaint mauve]

ur ui is so clean

[coarse parcel]

thanks but all I did was stealing what zac did

with other addon than SUF

[covert kestrel]

Yo we have the same catd

[quaint mauve]

WHAT THE

how’d you get into my home.

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gun-cat-shoot-cat-shooting-cat-holding-gun-gif-4347301047204507086

[keen belfry]

wangbar updated.

[indigo token]

that trailer is gonna be the most recognition rogue gets for the whole exp

[shell fossil]

if we're not running kir do we need ho levels of haste or is it just 20 before talents

[quaint mauve]

wait we have like the same rug

bro who r u

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317585214566043729/1370818945904541866/worx.gif

[gaunt phoenix]

kir vs ho doesnt affect haste

kir vs ho isnt really a thing anymore

[shell fossil]

ye im just getting context for the haste tax

so it's 20 regardless?

[gaunt phoenix]

haste is mostly controlled by energy as opposed to an actual tax.

in prepatch it is >30%

in beta it is >22%, maybe varies a bit between fatebound vs trickster as fatebound gets more resources

on beta 22% is essentially haste on every item. you cant really go much higher

[real falcon]

so do i even use ambush with outlaw in 12.0

[covert kestrel]

U from the future

[vivid vessel]

never unless you are talneted into hidden op

[real falcon]

ty

[craggy barn]

kir vs ho isnt a thing bc the hos all lost

[quaint mauve]

r u like secretly my brother

[copper radish]

Next update gonna be HO rework

[frail veldt]

Wdym it's perfect

[desert tendon]

u r perfect

[glass mortar]

i think i am developing a mental illness

i responded to mafic again

i cant help myself this person is so lost

i cant tell if they are ESL or what, this is not a young person either I distinctly remember them being around back before discord when all us terminally online wow players yapped on the wow forums

[vivid vessel]

talking to mafic

almost as bad as talking to moot bro

[restive obsidian]

I ignored him, it saves your sanity

[mighty pivot]

sorry to hear that

[rotund depot]

I think he rp’s as a rogue bc he thinks it gives his life meaning

[glass mortar]

im rereading thru this convo

[frail veldt]

I mean someone has to populate the left side of the bell curve

[glass mortar]

i dont know if it can just be stupidity

[rotund depot]

He’s a BliZzard psyop

[glass mortar]

I said that KiR is used to increase our 2 buff uptime to closer to 100% and he responds to it two times saying that getting close to 100% uptime on AR is why we cant have 2 charges even though i never said anything would bring us near 100% AR uptime

I even corrected him and he responded to the correction continuing down that path of logic

theres no way you do that by accident right

its gotta be on purpose

if hes a troll hes certainly a good one, it all comes off as very genuine (like genuinely talking to an alien creature)

[rotund depot]

It’s like trying to find the end of a möbius strip

I don’t think he has the awareness to be a troll

Like he exists as a concept and not an actual person

Fears made manifest

[desert tendon]

🏄‍♂️ 🏄‍♀️

[rotund depot]

On the blizz forum

[stuck patrol]

Who is mafic

[desert tendon]

I think Mafic is zeross' alt account

it's just ragebait and fake takes

[desert tendon]

My new goat 🏄‍♂️ 🏄‍♀️

[stuck patrol]

Is this someone on the forums or here? I want to see cringe

[desert tendon]

forums

[rotund depot]

His ability to ragebait xaethron is pure cinema

[snow stratus]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[mighty pivot]

you guys are mad because mafic doesn't heart your posts

[fossil lintel]

who is mafic?

[stuck patrol]

Oh yeah, I forgot why I came here

Did they fix cold blood? I see it proc all the time when I'm playing sub

Or is it only bugged for outlaw?

[mighty pivot]

it works better (or properly?) for sub for some reason

still broken for outlaw on live

[stuck patrol]

Aight ty

[frail veldt]

You gotta go talk to people on the street more often

Like off the internet

It feels like there's a language barrier to native speakers

These people definitely exist