outlaw

[frail veldt]

You prob are lol

[vivid vessel]

bro think he can outcheap

the cheapman

the only time i ever spend money

[quaint mauve]

yall can’t compare to me tho

[vivid vessel]

is in my computer

[frail veldt]

But that doesn't mean you have more overhead

[vivid vessel]

i never ever buy anything else

other than food

[frail veldt]

And wow sub

And rent

[glass mortar]

and internet sub

[frail veldt]

PC parts

[vivid vessel]

yes i mean

[frail veldt]

Utilities

[vivid vessel]

ye i mean thats just life bro

gotta live

[frail veldt]

Tru

[vivid vessel]

i assume everyuone does the same

so

that doesnt really count does it

[glass mortar]

allegedly

[frail veldt]

It's more about how cheap you are relative to your income

[glass mortar]

some of us spend our time arguing with 🏄‍♂️ 🏄 on the forums so are we even really alive?

[frail veldt]

Truuuuu

[keen belfry]

im confused mewo

its just my microphone and its like, surging the ports?

[frail veldt]

Mic has a short?

Got a multimeter?

[keen belfry]

no i used to, but ive never needed one

[frail veldt]

Yeah I mean if it's just the mic then don't plug in mic haha

[keen belfry]

but it wasnt broken before micro center hmm

[frail veldt]

Could try the mic on something else but then you risk another machine

[keen belfry]

yeah i think a few ports are fried right now? this is so weird

lol

[frail veldt]

sketch

I would def bring it back if its under warranty

what was the repair they did exactly?

[keen belfry]

just updated my 990 firmware, and reinstalled windows

[frail veldt]

damn thats it?

and now usbs are borked?

Did they install bad drivers after windows install?

[keen belfry]

just a few usb ports lmaoo

[frail veldt]

so weird

[keen belfry]

yeah there are 2/6 usb ports that are working rn

im guessing plugging in that mic to different ports bricked them

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[craggy barn]

uh

solo dont these need to be purged

[lime lake]

too soon

[vivid vessel]

too soon bro wtf

we have nothing to replace them with

[craggy barn]

purge em

[vivid vessel]

wait for midngiht no cpa

[craggy barn]

replace em with wang bar pepw

[keen belfry]

im using them to get zacs D1 texture

ty

wait zac how do i set expressway as default font again

[vivid vessel]

directly into retail

[keen belfry]

ok did

[low glade]

fonts.rawr

[keen belfry]

@vivid vessel using Ace3

[ocean lodge]

https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2016287370622992534 I know what I'm doing for the next hour.

Rispir (@Rispir1)

↪️ Replying to @luxthos

@luxthos I'm having more fun than I should with this.

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 27, 2026, 11:09 PM

[lime lake]

unfortunately that was fixed

[keen belfry]

gg

@gaunt phoenix

and fixed the errors i was sent

[languid arch]

Is Outlaw as bad as I’ve heard?

[fathom bramble]

that depends on who you ask and what you've heard

I think it has faired better than most if not all of the other specs in the game

[keen belfry]

depends on who u ask, if you liked TWW outlaw (crackshot/AR uptime) you might not like this one.

its now a builder spende rspec

[languid arch]

Shopping for a main for midnight and I’m between rogue (Outlaw) and Shaman (Enhancement)

[keen belfry]

2 good choices

[languid arch]

Yea I mostly just picked off of class vibes

[fathom bramble]

well outlaw definitely has better vibes

pirate > magic hammer

[languid arch]

How many defensive do they have?

If it’s more then 1 I’m sold lol

[fathom bramble]

more than 1 for sure

between cheat death, feint, and cloak we usually have the tools to outlive a lot of things

[keen belfry]

loktark do u have any design wishes for wang bar, besides the coloring

[fathom bramble]

but if something doesn't do aoe or magic damage it can be a bit of a threat since feint/cloak stop doing anything

[fathom bramble]

nope

coloring is all I need

[languid arch]

I’ve never played Rogue before tbh. I just saw the dread blades during Lemix and realized I needed to play whatever class had those lol

[keen belfry]

well if u wanna play pirate

paly outlaw

[fathom bramble]

this version should serve you well as a never played outlaw gamer

[keen belfry]

yeah

agreed

[torn lichen]

Can I add my Heath bar to it?

[keen belfry]

i could add that

[tender wedge]

you mean i can set my combo points up as a rainbow

this is sick

[keen belfry]

mhm watch this

[torn lichen]

would be a feature I’d use. I normally do a 4-5px bar so I can quickly glance at my health

[fathom bramble]

finish on blue pog

[tender wedge]

and it's more responsive than sensei's right?

[fathom bramble]

finish on blue as fatebound and indigo as trickster 🤔

[tender wedge]

the point gain delay is kinda noticeable

[languid arch]

Nice I’m excited to try it out tomorrow after work 😎 I’m assuming just follow the Wowhead guide then?

[keen belfry]

yeah

[fathom bramble]

wowhead guide should be accurate iirc

can also use the faq here as a guide

[torn lichen]

Turn off smooth animation on cps in sensei

If you haven’t

[fathom bramble]

#outlaw-faq

[languid arch]

Sick thank you

[keen belfry]

its still slower

[tender wedge]

it already is off

like the delay isn't enough that you do the wrong thing

but it's kinda annoying

[torn lichen]

ye I get it

[languid arch]

Sensei is buggy as fuck. On Shaman it sometimes doesn’t reset after spending maelstrom lol

[tender wedge]

enhance actually broke on me and it's showing mana instead of maelstrom stacks

so i was kinda on the look out

[languid arch]

I’ve just been using ElvUI since that got updated

So far the class bar has been perfect

[lime lake]

bcdm op

[keen belfry]

scath you want me to add a healthbar?

[fathom bramble]

I was almost tempted to get ElvUI and disable literally everything except the resource bar

but now we have wangbar

[tender wedge]

i think it's only fair that you add shaman next

[keen belfry]

can it just be in the stack?

[fathom bramble]

the best bar

[tender wedge]

❤️

[torn lichen]

Only other thing I’d possibly want to track as a resource bar would be sht stack on Sub.

[keen belfry]

is maelstrom easy to seutp now? i play enhance so i probably will

[languid arch]

I just like ElvUI tbh. I spend wayyy to much time on my UI lol

[tender wedge]

well maelstrom weapon is a buff stack rather than a resource

[lime lake]

the wangbar is getting bigger

holy

[keen belfry]

i dont think this will have buffs, buffs are a whole nother thing

ugh why is maelstrom so hard

[tender wedge]

which is why it's always been harder yeah

[torn lichen]

I figured.

[keen belfry]

i dont know how to do buff things for addons

i think you have to do cdm stuff

[torn lichen]

neither does blizzard. It’s ok

[languid arch]

Yea buffs are fucked due to the new secret value shit

[torn lichen]

yeah right now the only workaround I found was a bar via ArcUI

[keen belfry]

yeahh

[tender wedge]

i mean senseis DID do it

then an update broke it

[keen belfry]

i bet eventually maelstrom will just be a unit power

it should be

[tender wedge]

stupid that it's not tbh

[keen belfry]

yeah

[tender wedge]

it's just blue CPs

[keen belfry]

but im unsure how many specs this will be compatible with

im kinda a hyper fixate person so maybe ill add a bunch of specs to it

i think its honestly a good bar addon now

[fathom bramble]

will it just work with feral out of the box

[keen belfry]

the menus are good

[torn lichen]

I’d be quite happy with health, cps and energy with cps that are snappy and I can color with textures / borders size I can set.

[fathom bramble]

or are their combo points somehow different

[keen belfry]

i can check

i have a is rogue check

i could easily add that for feral

[languid arch]

If you go through the ElvUI GitHub repo, you’ll see multiple times where they tried to check if something was a secret with the new API but the reply was a secret lol

[keen belfry]

ill look at that

i need to find a way to not have my addon throw a lua if the user tries to use it in combat, the mnu

menu

[torn lichen]

Thanks for working on this

[keen belfry]

i hope my outlaw rogue players use it and support a fellow outlaw

first ever addon

[languid arch]

They just gutted Enh healing even more so Ill check it out tomorrow when im testing my rogue 🙂

[fathom bramble]

I'll send the addon over to a feral I know that is using sensei if you do that then

[hasty warren]

Hi pirates

[frail veldt]

we arent pirate

[fathom bramble]

then how do I have an eyepatch on

checkmate

[quaint mauve]

wheres wangbar

!awangui

[frail veldt]

@keen belfry have you compared your bar with default cps in terms of delay?

[fathom bramble]

!wang

[frail veldt]

actually fuck it im bored ill do it

[keen belfry]

i havent

lmk tho

[quaint mauve]

i need the ui

drop tutorial

big dog

[keen belfry]

just wait for new vers updated tomorrow or whenever they accept it

[upper surge]

Pirates are cool though

Why wouldn't you want to be a pirate

[keen belfry]

bettercooldown manager base is really good

[fathom bramble]

well blizzard gave us a random tumbleweed so

I don't think they want us to be pirates

[torn lichen]

gunslingers

[quaint mauve]

also idk what addons i can go ahead and u istall now

uninstall

[keen belfry]

most

[fathom bramble]

I think the combo point animation for default UI starts at the same moment that the wangbar adds a combo point

[quaint mauve]

omnicd gone?

[quaint mauve]

dbm

[frail veldt]

yeah the only issue with the default ui one is that it has an animation

[frail veldt]

oh nice ty

guess I dont have to test it lo

[frail veldt]

idk ask blizz theyre the ones who removed all the pirate stuff from outlaw

[keen belfry]

gn all

[frail veldt]

nighty night

[quaint mauve]

i dont wanna be a bother but i dont get how to do this

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-gif-6906939104301495025

[frail veldt]

which part

[quaint mauve]

well kinda all of it

[quaint mauve]

ive never made my own ui

always copied a elvui import

and stuck with it

[fathom bramble]

can wangbar remove the background on combo points

or set them to 100% transparency

[frail veldt]

imma encourage you to try to figure it out first haha

you smart

you can do it

open settings and start messing with it

[quaint mauve]

i shall

once i finish my work

[frail veldt]

also new wow ui is a lot harder to just import someone elses UI/setup

so youre gona have to learn to do a lot on your own now

[quaint mauve]

yk playing with nothing has been also kinda nice

no dps bars, no ui, just clicking buttons

[fathom bramble]

trying to recreate my old ui using the new tools has me realizing that some of this stuff didn't have a reason

and it just was the way it was so I never changed it

idk if I like the background on my combo points or not

[craggy barn]

the fix for this is very simple, theres a pull request for a more extensive overhaul of the event system but idk if thats finished yet or if the sensei author will merge it

2 lines of code just to give u faster combo point updates

or more like 5 words

[quaint mauve]

@frail veldt bro this is insanity

[frail veldt]

wuhappen

[quaint mauve]

i already took linear algebra and diff eq

and now im taking a class

on how to apply it

and it’s deadass the same class

[frail veldt]

state space stuff?

[quaint mauve]

idk

[frail veldt]

control theory?

[tender wedge]

so we're saying "just wait"?

[quaint mauve]

im just doing diff eqs again

[craggy barn]

if u dont want to fix it urself yea. or get wang bar i guess

or use bcdm

[frail veldt]

I mean yeah why learn something if you dont then get to apply it haha

[tender wedge]

fixing myself is far beyond my capabilities

[quaint mauve]

i mean true ig

actually idek why im complaining

this should be the easiest A i get

[frail veldt]

dont jinx it

[quaint mauve]

everything is open note

[frail veldt]

that should worry you haha

[quaint mauve]

i was pretty good at diff eq tho

[frail veldt]

my hardest class was open laptop during the final LOL

[quaint mauve]

had to self teach myself bc my professor genuinely spoke none sense every lecture

[quaint mauve]

i’d be scared if it wasn’t a math class tbf

but i ended diff eqs with like a 103%

[craggy barn]

yea rip then. the best i can offer is sending u my version of the file which has the fix

[tender wedge]

go on, maybe i can get grok to do it like all the other addons

[quaint mauve]

this semester im only really scared about fluids and thermo

[craggy barn]

i mean u just replace the file in ur addon folder

[tender wedge]

oh. well then

we can do that

[craggy barn]

dont need ai for shit unless ur that brain dead

[frail veldt]

the fuck you using grok for coding for

[tender wedge]

was making a nephui joke

[frail veldt]

lolol all that drama was soooo dumb

[craggy barn]

yuh

[keen belfry]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/wangbar-resource-bars
updated

gn

[frail veldt]

Bis

[prisma lantern]

@keen belfry better than sensei?

[gaunt phoenix]

More customizable and marginally faster updates

[mighty pivot]

also more lewd name

[tropic zephyr]

How do you have SUF style CD manager?

[covert kestrel]

ArcUI

[tribal cosmos]

Bro

Even bm hunter has our abilities now

This is crazy

Oh fuck

Sub rogue got the bm rotation

What did i come back to

[patent mirage]

its the end of the world

[upper hawk]

And I feel fine

[coarse parcel]

at least futur console player will be able to play the game

[terse prawn]

In a couple of expansions we’ll have the same number of abilities and depth as an overwatch hero

[coarse parcel]

can't wait

[inland meteor]

I tried sub for a bit yesterday

Funniest shit I’ve ever seen

[tribal cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/floss-junkrat-heros-of-the-storm-gif-13049883

sub players have less complexity then the current svhunter

I remember when their chat was full of second intervals to breakpoints to using paladin blessing to line everything up perfectly.

Now

https://tenor.com/view/cat-getting-hit-cat-and-mom-cat-cat-meme-lol-cat-gif-10287035571581185713

I hit da builder i hit da spender

[quaint sable]

They are tryna cook up new tech.

[zealous lantern]

what did they do to outlaw

[whole storm]

they convert it to huntard

imagine from the most sophisticated hardest class to this shit

[mighty pivot]

most sophisticated

[whole storm]

u ever played other classes?

[tribal cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

Devolve into cat meme classes

[zealous lantern]

https://imgur.com/4ixmqT7

[twin steeple]

Pressing BTE 200 times in a row = sophisticated?

[tribal cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-3937562841362806777

[prisma lantern]

@inland meteor sub boring?

[gleaming reef]

What's the best way to tricks your tank?

[pastel sierra]

I have it as click cast

[gleaming reef]

ahh

[pastel sierra]

And as trickster it lasts the whole dungeon anyways

[patent mirage]

sub became the new ret

when you become what you hate

[whole storm]

thats the new built, look outlaw from shadowlands and before u will get my point

[whole storm]

i use a macro, but tank must be the group leader, coz it's fixated on player no 1. also u can write the player name, but thats not ideal if u play pugs most of the time

[midnight ridge]

i cast tricks @focus -tank

[whole storm]

u can ask AI, and he can do u multiple versions

Here you go—simple and reliable WoW macro options for Outlaw Rogue to cast Tricks of the Trade on the tank, assuming the tank is party1 (often the first party slot). Pick the one you prefer.

---

1) Straight to party1 (leader/tank)

#showtooltip Tricks of the Trade
/cast [@party1,exists,nodead] Tricks of the Trade

Notes:

• party1 is the first party member (not you). In many groups the leader/tank ends up in that slot, but it’s not guaranteed.
• This will fail gracefully if party1 doesn’t exist or is dead.

---

2) Mouseover first, fallback to party1

(Great if you sometimes hover the tank’s frame)

#showtooltip Tricks of the Trade
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][@party1,exists,nodead] Tricks of the Trade

---

3) Focus-based (more robust if the leader isn’t party1)

Set the tank as focus once, then use:

#showtooltip Tricks of the Trade
/cast [@focus,exists,nodead] Tricks of the Trade

Optional helper to set focus quickly (target the tank and press once):

/focus

---

4) With an announcement (optional)

If you want to notify the group:

#showtooltip Tricks of the Trade
/y Tricks of the Trade on %t!
/cast [@party1,exists,nodead] Tricks of the Trade

---

Tips

• You can combine conditions, e.g. mouseover → focus → party1:

#showtooltip Tricks of the Trade
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][@focus,exists,nodead][@party1,exists,nodead] Tricks of the Trade

• If you ever swap tanks/leaders, the focus version is the most reliable.

Want me to tailor this for raid frames (e.g., a specific tank name) or add auto-target protection so it never fires on the wrong target?

[inland meteor]

Yes incredibly so

[mossy herald]

[prisma lantern]

Arf...because we press only 3 spells ?

[inland meteor]

Yeah once you go into shadow dance it’s basically just 2 button spam

[leaden sonnet]

As opposed to before when you go into shadow dance and it basically just 2 buttom spam

[prisma lantern]

Outside of SD, you have more button to press or no?

[shell fossil]

with the old double coup thing from tier set it felt really nice even though the rotation was simple/ had some common vibes with hidden opportunity

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lXOXvD9DFp4

pop cds and gib stuff with quad damage/prism etc

[terse prawn]

I absolutely loathed double coup

[shell fossil]

i used tellmewhen to flash a little coup icon whenever it proc'd

and the combo refund noise so i knew i could send the second without having to shuri etc

[terse prawn]

But base ui it flashes anyway?

[shell fossil]

yeah cdm has it but it's not great

it always shows coup and it just lights up when its available

would prefer seeing evis turn into coup but good enough

[terse prawn]

I’ve only ever used dbm, a dps meter and tom tom.
All this edit mode and cdm is such a treat

[granite merlin]

If I bte and I get a reset but have like three combos do I want to use a builder before hitting it again or just send?

[dim falcon]

Hey guys, is outlaw still the bugparty from tww ?

[grand loom]

I believe you still want to build before hitting it again, but I'd welcome being overrulled in that by someone more in the know.

[honest sparrow]

You do need to build again

[grand loom]

Got a question about building off the back of this one:

BtE comes off cooldown.
I have 5 combo points.
Do I build to get a 6+ combo point BtE, or just Dispatch with 5 and wait til I hit 6+ from FtH procs

[honest sparrow]

if bte is ready you build to 6+ you dont want to dispatch with bte ready.

so you use a builder even on 5

[strong cargo]

I use a second macro to change the name in the tricks macro, so I just have to set it up once per tank by clicking them before the run and it won't mess with mouseover/leader/focus it's big QoL for me

[small lion]

Hello guys in midnight beta it is better a dagger in off hand or a sword?

[pastel sierra]

!oh

[glass mortar]

dagger

[ornate heath]

A dagger offhand is ~1% better than a slow weapon mostly because of Zero In, and also slightly more Instant Poison procs. Energy is not affected by offhand speed.

It is possible large ilvl differences can matter more than this bonus so use Raidbots Top Gear when in doubt.

[real yew]

Boys, returning just now to play the next exp. Which spec seems more fun atm?

[inland acorn]

Depends on your definition of fun

[true flax]

what stats is outlaw using on beta? haste vers prio ?

[inland acorn]

Crit haste

[real yew]

I'm a outlaw main at core.

[shell fossil]

get 45% crit somehow and normal haste caps

[wintry solar]

Then yes

By that I assume you've been an outlaw maim for a long time

[real yew]

Yep

[wintry solar]

Pre df

[real yew]

So outlaw is more fun than the others?

I mean, sin is NEVER fun

[old gull]

Outlaw still pretty fun, a lot of the complexity is gone from TWW tho

[real yew]

Yeah, noticed that.

[inland acorn]

It's also a bit slower

[real yew]

Sub is still complex?

[old gull]

Sub might be one of the more simple specs in the game now

[inland acorn]

Nah sub is dumbed down

[real yew]

lol.

It's slower than sin or the same rn?

[prisma lantern]

Sub is now simple but is It dynamique?

Or they are downtime?

[true flax]

how much crit haste do we need %?

[tight rose]

sub is a burst class so outside of burst, nothing to do

[prisma lantern]

BynNothing you meant build cp and spend them?

[tight rose]

yes

so 2 buttons

[glass mortar]

all the crit and how much haste depends on fatebound/trickster but on beta u should be fatebound so like 22%

[prisma lantern]

Only 2? Lol

[tight rose]

thats if you have energy otherwise you just autoattack (btw, theres a channel for sub if you want to check that out)

[glass mortar]

u need the haste first tho and then basically as much crit as u can get since in s1 stat budget just getting the haste is a struggle

[true flax]

ty sir

[true flax]

u also have any fb talents i can try?

[covert kestrel]

#outlaw-faq

[glass mortar]

#outlaw message

[covert kestrel]

OUTLAW!!!!

[true flax]

tyty!

[wintry solar]

OUTLAW!!!!

[jolly geyser]

inlaw

[prisma vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/vldl-viva-la-dirt-league-vldl-rdr2-vldl-rowan-vldl-outlaw-gif-18664070

[wintry solar]

I'm about to log in to OUTLAW!!!!

Can't wait

Still in bed though

[prisma vessel]

NA servers going down tho 🙁

[wintry solar]

What???

[prisma vessel]

yeeeee

[wintry solar]

Well dang

That was the only reason for me to get out of bed

Hmmm

[prisma vessel]

i get that xD

[shell fossil]

breakfast burrito

[prisma vessel]

its weird, theres no message on launcher

but i had a shutdown ingame

O.o

[wintry solar]

I guess I could play Bo7 Endgame

[jolly geyser]

black ops 7 more like shit ass 7

[tribal cosmos]

https://youtu.be/UWAUhirC_2E?si=E5EQFqteVSPt2fwb

Damn

He brings back

Alot of good info without the toxicity of wow community

[proven ocean]

who is frog pit gaming

never seen him before

[glass mortar]

fwog

[proven ocean]

also why does he have 100 subscribers

is that ur channel

xddddddddddd

[glass mortar]

wtf dont be mean

[tribal cosmos]

No

[glass mortar]

thats more subscribers then the entire outlaw rogue playerbase

[tribal cosmos]

It was in ma feed

[proven ocean]

just has to make sure

[tribal cosmos]

This his most popular video

[proven ocean]

but ye like

midnight is definitely a huge step back

i agree with him without watching his video

[tribal cosmos]

I just agree with him

[strong halo]

Step back in what way

[tribal cosmos]

Watch vid

[proven ocean]

every way they introduced

so

[tribal cosmos]

Basically how blizzard butchered addons without giving a proper in game replacement

How 80 mods now do the job of 1 , poorly.

[glass mortar]

no ui improvements till 12.1 goes pretty hard ngl

[tribal cosmos]

How their damage meter shows alot of why they cant balance classes

[glass mortar]

basically deleted all the features of damage meters then ship it

[tribal cosmos]

Cause theyre fucking innacurate

And he says it in a way that honestly resonantes

No flame to the LFR raiders

But addons werent tools that played the game for you , they were just streamlining information that only made sense to you

[strong halo]

What reallly??

[glass mortar]

unless a wowhead post baited me i believe they said something along those lines

[exotic agate]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[inland acorn]

They're focusing on some bugs till at least .5 patch iirc

So probably no further improvements till .1

[wicked kestrel]

is mythic level sacbrood worth getting?

for M+ only

[glass mortar]

🤷

can try to sim it i think sims r decently accurate now on prepatch?

nobody is really optimizing for prepatch tho

so we dont have a dedicated list of trinket powers anymore

[wicked kestrel]

Can't sim it if i can't get to droptimizer 🙁

fair enough thank you!

[glass mortar]

you can add items to top gear

any item

[wicked kestrel]

.> im dumb. ty

[gleaming reef]

I also build it back up. But I'm not sure if I should make full CP or max Cp -1

[wintry solar]

oh servers are up

thats good

they mustve got the memo I was hopping on and turned them back on

[vapid blaze]

awang does your resource bar auto scale to cdm?

[wintry solar]

new insult dropped

[jolly geyser]

sup cluckers

[fossil lintel]

Someone should turn that into an emote

[balmy topaz]

Has anyone made an addon to track gravedigger reset

Ahh wait there's a buff

it's all good

[prisma vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-bro-chicken-what-whats-happening-gif-14904008795477823178

[plain shuttle]

does anyone know if the outlaw buffs are on retail yet ?

[prisma vessel]

i don't think so.

[balmy topaz]

We are so energy starved if we're in combat for like over 1min wtf

[prisma vessel]

how much haste you got ruby?

[balmy topaz]

20%

Don't tell me

[prisma vessel]

im at like 32%

[balmy topaz]

we fuckin stackin haste

[prisma vessel]

crit>haste

xD

i got like 50% crit now

and like 24% vers

[balmy topaz]

Hmm

Are you on live sorry

I am on beta

[prisma vessel]

oh yeah live sorry.

[prisma vessel]

should have made that more apparent

i gotta go try beta

Dx

was reading faq and it said around 22% (give or take) but idk what the energy situation is

for beta

[balmy topaz]

I think in m+

For packs it'll feels fine but

I think in raid it's gonna feel omega shit

[prisma vessel]

how are you on boss fights?

like just 1 target

[balmy topaz]

I've not actually done a full key yet

[prisma vessel]

o

[balmy topaz]

Not done a key yet tbh

Just hit dummy atm

[plain shuttle]

Is any rogue spec looking good in raid rn, ?

[balmy topaz]

I was going to play mage and then I decieded naa fuck that gonna stick to Outlaw OTP

[balmy topaz]

If anything

it won't be outlaw most likely

Outlaw isn't a raid spec

[plain shuttle]

I thought maybe with the 15% dmg buff ... was just coping

[prisma vessel]

watch it turn out to be the raid spec

[balmy topaz]

Take tuning with a pinch of salt

We have at least 3/4 lots of tuning before any meaningful content

[balmy topaz]

frfr

[glass mortar]

unlikely that anything "op" now remains it in 3 months or w/e when the raid actually opens

its literally impossible to tell who will end up strong or not

[balmy topaz]

Demo warlock for example

[proven ocean]

https://www.twitch.tv/blizzard

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[balmy topaz]

That will not be like how it is on beta atm

[proven ocean]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

everyone open the stream asap

[glass mortar]

who is blizzard-twitch

is that ur account zeross?

nice self promo

[proven ocean]

ye my account

subscribe

and follow

[vivid vessel]

Nice I woke up just in time

[proven ocean]

#selfadvertisement

[prisma vessel]

we got 13 minutes relax

[balmy topaz]

Lazy fucker

I have to drive so can someone @ me the TLDR please

tahnsk

[glass mortar]

tldr: there is 12m 45s left @balmy topaz

[proven ocean]

tahnsk

[wintry solar]

https://www.twitch.tv/warcraft 12 mins if anyone cares to watch

[proven ocean]

popo cant scroll 10 msgs up

[wintry solar]

I was at one of the pins

[proven ocean]

who cares tho

[wintry solar]

me

???

[proven ocean]

i was pinned before u years ago bozo

[wintry solar]

you cant even spell pinned

bozo

[proven ocean]

should've changed it to a capybara taking a shower

for outlaws to get confused on why its pinned

[wintry solar]

dude I just took one of those

[vivid vessel]

i will pin you

[wintry solar]

used Dr. Squatch I got for christmas

[vivid vessel]

against the wall

bozo

[wintry solar]

hrnggg

no you not

[vivid vessel]

bro said hrnggg

this guy taking it in the ass daily no cap

[glass mortar]

and?

is the frenchman judging rn

[wintry solar]

no im poopin

you can tell because its the only time I respond to zeross

Im kidding Zeross

make usre yall do the WoW discord quest

[balmy topaz]

[keen belfry]

Ty zac for saying to use libraries for ui

[main stratus]

havent played in a while, how's outlaw looking for midnight? seems like they changed alot of stuff that made the spec fun

[balmy topaz]

tahnsk

[wintry solar]

its the most okay version of outlaw

imo

[vivid vessel]

was it better

[keen belfry]

Yes

[vivid vessel]

nice

[balmy topaz]

@vivid vessel

[vivid vessel]

there is a lot of cool libraries awang

[balmy topaz]

Have you been able to make it so BF is a nice bar

On the UI

like before

[vivid vessel]

like i think people use libraries to save stuffs aswell

[balmy topaz]

or is it still shit

[vivid vessel]

like database libs

well not yet ruby

without using weak auras

im just waiting for the better cdm addon

to get updated

[balmy topaz]

Elv ui

[vivid vessel]

im taking it chill for now

i dont wanna use elvui

[keen belfry]

What do they do

[balmy topaz]

Why

I feel people have ptsd

[vivid vessel]

because elvui is too much

i dont need all that

[balmy topaz]

from when it was lag central

[vivid vessel]

i mean i dont need an addon that does everything

[balmy topaz]

Fair

Also @vivid vessel

In higher keys

you struggling with energy on bosses

In beta

[vivid vessel]

yes a bit sometimes

[balmy topaz]

Ye it's cringe

about like 1 min 30 into the fight

[vivid vessel]

it will be worse in midnigth even cause

i was playing energy efficient builds

i was playing 2 ace

you will prolly play 0 ace

so

[balmy topaz]

0 ace

[keen belfry]

I wanna make a cdm addon but I have no clue how

[balmy topaz]

What do you take instead of ace?

[vivid vessel]

i mean look awang

the issue is

there is better devs than you

and its a lot of work

[keen belfry]

Yes

[vivid vessel]

thats why i dont really wanna make one myself either

[pastel sierra]

They should remove the ace node and put the 4cp refund on the BtE capstone

[vivid vessel]

there is no point right

[keen belfry]

Like man the way you have to work around cdm is crazy

[vivid vessel]

yes

its cringe

[keen belfry]

The fact you can’t just access spell cds in combat

Crazy

[pastel sierra]

Not even blizzard base UI works without creating secret value LUA errors its fine

[jolly geyser]

Wow Prop hunt?

[vivid vessel]

why they talking about houses

i thought this was about wow

[glass mortar]

idk people like houses man

[gaunt phoenix]

house :hoyl:

[vivid vessel]

housing esport?

[glass mortar]

ranked housing when

[frail veldt]

im sure htey will end up doing a housing competition like the transmog event thing

[glass mortar]

HOLY IT ACTUALLY IS

[vivid vessel]

bro

[glass mortar]

ZAC BOUT TO BE R1 HOUSER EU

[vivid vessel]

listen to the live

you noob

[glass mortar]

ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS ADD A RATING SYSTEM TO IT

[vivid vessel]

they litteraly said

ranked housing

[frail veldt]

Im on a work meeting

lol

[glass mortar]

give me housing.io and my life is yours blizzard

[vivid vessel]

bro

can we delete classic

[robust berry]

Is there a way to put a voice alert to the buffs you maintain.
Seems Im getting old and cant see the RtB or BF when they are about to disappear

[vivid vessel]

and remix

[frail veldt]

problem is the voters are wow players who have no taste

[vivid vessel]

and all the useless shit

[vivid vessel]

why cant you see it

cuase no

[frail veldt]

not in midnight

[vivid vessel]

but did you add the buffs to your cdm

it should be visible

we dont have many things to track

[frail veldt]

they said theyre getting old

[vivid vessel]

just like bf/loaded/rtb/adr

[robust berry]

I mean I forget to look sometimes. Paying attention to rotation and plus being present i fight i sometimes forget to look at the buff tap

[frail veldt]

you could try turning those buffs into a bar they might be easier to see you can make them pretty big @robust berry

[robust berry]

👴

[robust berry]

I didnt think you could change the bar size. I might do it when I get home.

[frail veldt]

addons can help with that

[vivid vessel]

bro can they talk about wow yet

what am i watching even

[frail veldt]

blizzards default UI is missing a lot of functionality

[vivid vessel]

default

if you dont use addons you legit have braindamage no cap

[frail veldt]

lot of stubborn blizz pilled people trying to avoid using them

or people who really hate having to set things up/learn options/etc

[robust berry]

Yeah default ui seems to need alot of work. But w/e they already jumped that gun.

Even Nameplaces are so weird

[vivid vessel]

Nameplates are legit worse than before

At least before you knew it was basically useless

[keen belfry]

This has to be the most fucked xpac I’ve ever seen

Hpal complaints are so funny

[vivid vessel]

Now it's a middle ground of being still unusable dogshit

But they look like they aren't

[jolly geyser]

[frail veldt]

I wasnt around for wod was it this bad too?

[gaunt phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/905118543648030840.webp?size=256

[glass mortar]

what

[robust berry]

Only the love of silvermoon brings me back

[glass mortar]

was this announcement

did they announce anything

[robust berry]

And well... Outlaw rework

[keen belfry]

I wasn’t either I was only a loser tryhard wow player since DF

[glass mortar]

just the ranked housing ig

[inland meteor]

why doesnt the larger ion just simply eat all the smaller ions

[glass mortar]

oh ok its not over

the legend is gunna lay it all on us

plunderstorm classic when

[frail veldt]

plunderstorm rotations unironically more complex than midnight

[vivid vessel]

frfr

guys can we skip midnght

just stay in tww

for another year

who cares

[severe charm]

this entire state of azeroth thing is garbage so far

[vivid vessel]

bro can that ion guy stop yapping

no one cares we all know already

[glass mortar]

is... this event is already live right?

the one hes announcing right now?

[vivid vessel]

who knows

no one cares

[glass mortar]

hasnt it been live since tuesday

[vivid vessel]

bro no one knows

cause no one cares

about prepatch

[jolly geyser]

its for returning people

[severe charm]

litterly 20 minutes of glazing and patting themselves on the back for doing charity work

[vivid vessel]

its the worse prepatch that has ever been

[glass mortar]

ye ig this isnt meant for wow players

[inland meteor]

dark portal decor item mentioned

[vivid vessel]

im not logging in

not getting that stupid portal

fuck you blizzard

[jolly geyser]

ok?

[vivid vessel]

fuck you too ramlu !

wtf guys the level cap is increasing to 90 ! !

huge news !

[glass mortar]

wtf my twitch app is like 30 seconds behind

[vivid vessel]

noob

[glass mortar]

can u guys spoiler ur stuff please

[dusty forge]

Hi guys do you have advice on how to make combo points normal is there any addon that allows that? I dont want blizzard's nor some squers just circles i can edit

[glass mortar]

i dont wanna get spoiled by all this new content

[vivid vessel]

circles?

[covert kestrel]

Wangbar

[inland meteor]

honestly i never liked expansions that raised the cap to lvl 90

[vivid vessel]

good luck with that bro

code an addon for it

[covert kestrel]

Oh wangbar can't do circles

All my homies hate circles

[vivid vessel]

ye no shit

weak auras dont exist anymore so doing something like that

xdd

[frail veldt]

even with WAs circles was a pita

idk why they didnt like circles

[vivid vessel]

not really

i did one in 10 min

last time someone asked about it

[frail veldt]

I asked you to do one

you tried and said eh this is annoying

[vivid vessel]

no

[frail veldt]

and then didnt do it lol

[vivid vessel]

i did one for someone

even was in circle

circle in circles bro

[inland meteor]

can anyone stop this man

what cant he do

[vivid vessel]

well i never finished it tho

but like

it doesnt take long

with weak aura

[glass mortar]

have fun in a childrens video game

[rotund depot]

circles were 100% annoying

[glass mortar]

its simply beyond his capability

[vivid vessel]

bro circles are just more annoying that squares

[frail veldt]

it felt hacky

[vivid vessel]

its still easy

xd

[rotund depot]

each one needed a circle background, ring border, circle cp

[frail veldt]

the baseline shapes arent good for circle

[rotund depot]

ye

[frail veldt]

you cant do borders etc

you have to like make it

[rotund depot]

had to resize a ring

[vivid vessel]

with one aura you can do circle with border so thats not even true

[frail veldt]

the circle was an image it didnt support the wa border function

[vivid vessel]

and you dont need a background either if you just change the color of the middle

[vivid vessel]

weak aura textures support background

ok let me

do it

one sec

i show you

cause you are skill issued

[frail veldt]

its that easy 😉

[inland meteor]

bro logging into classic to make a weakaura circle

[frail veldt]

all you gotta do to get free labor from zac is tell him he cant do something

[vivid vessel]

stfu

[frail veldt]

hahahaha

[vivid vessel]

not doing it then

im doing it if i still have weak aura loaded on beta

otherwise i cba

[inland meteor]

when will ion go bald

[frail veldt]

hes not bald?

sec googling his face

[inland meteor]

i mean when will he shave it all off

hes hanging by a thread

actually prop hunt added to wow

i thought the guy who said it earlier was memeing

[jolly geyser]

prop hunt is decent fun

[inland meteor]

3 raids at launch?

[frail veldt]

I mean when you gut the core games complexity youve got to add some stuff to distract people

[covert kestrel]

Candy crush wow is gonna go so hard while doing mechanics in the raids

[frail veldt]

gona be sick

[vivid vessel]

@frail veldt

you change this and its border size basically

and trhen you just change foreground color

for when cp filled or not

thats it

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/how-to-train-your-dragon-gif-23356423

[vivid vessel]

dont be a noob ?

[frail veldt]

yeah but if its a background when the combo point isnt or is filled then its not see through

[vivid vessel]

see trough?

[frail veldt]

I want it see through when its not filled

yeah nlike a normal cp

[vivid vessel]

eh

thats

weird af bro

[frail veldt]

yeah its hard af

I gave up

not worth

[vivid vessel]

here see through

good enough or what do you want

[frail veldt]

lolol why is it like a ball full of milk

[glass mortar]

god this content is made for me and i cant even get excited for it with how garbage classes play on live

[vivid vessel]

your background texture can just be a ring

[vivid vessel]

cause i wanted to show you its see trough

[frail veldt]

yeah the layers I wanted to do was to replicate how blizz cps work

this was back when ER mattered

[inland meteor]

are labyrinths like delve raids

[vivid vessel]

idk how they work

[frail veldt]

so I needed to change the border color for cps that are ER active it was just tedious

[glass mortar]

closer to delve megadungeons according to lawyer man

[vivid vessel]

its not tho

[glass mortar]

but id fuk with it

[vivid vessel]

i can still do that in 5s

its background color

as long as its only 2 texture you can do it in one aura

[frail veldt]

why didnt you do it when I asked for it at the start of tww lolol

[vivid vessel]

and actually uou can have more textures into the aura now iwth subtextures

[frail veldt]

now it doesnt even matter

[vivid vessel]

you asked me that ?

[frail veldt]

rofl yes

[vivid vessel]

eh

no shot

[inland meteor]

the hell is this

[vivid vessel]

it would take me 5 min to do rn

[inland meteor]

a blizzard tv show

[frail veldt]

you said something along the lines of "cba its annoying"

[vivid vessel]

maybe i was a noob back then

look maybe i was noob mewo

you learn

[frail veldt]

maybe maybe

[cinder relic]

WOW ANIME

GUYS WOW ANIME

MAIN CHARACTER IS A ROGUE

[inland meteor]

with rogue main character??? buff confirmed??

[frail veldt]

no wonder theyre spending all their time in housing

[inland meteor]

tf was that, i thought that was an announcement for something

[vivid vessel]

its not even an anime no ?

its just

a trailer

for housing

like we dont know housing exist

[cinder relic]

WTF

[inland meteor]

so random

[severe charm]

the fk was that

[vivid vessel]

is that all

[low glade]

lmaooo

[vivid vessel]

is that it

LOL

[low glade]

rogue mentioned in animation

[severe charm]

30 minutes 22 of it about housing

[low glade]

but not in notes

[vivid vessel]

THATS ALL

I CANNOT BRO

[pastel sierra]

i thought it was a rogue rework announcement

[vivid vessel]

I CANNOT

WORLD OF HOUSING

I JUST WATCHED 30 MIN

ABOUT HOUSES

FUCK YOU

[glass mortar]

what were u expecting this was clearly aimed at people who havent touched the game since tww

[inland meteor]

skill issue

[frail veldt]

crash out

[glass mortar]

the mistake was getting hyped at all

[low glade]

did anyone really expect anything more

[severe charm]

like why did i just waste 30 minutes for housing

[cinder relic]

12.0.7 having another 1 boss raid is kinda lit

[frail veldt]

zac if it isnt abundantly clear, blizz is focusing on the casual for midnight

[severe charm]

maybe addressing all the lua errors with there own things

[inland meteor]

o i thought that was right at launch

[ebon reef]

the only thing i hate about midnight is the oversimplification of specs but damn the cinematics and some of the new features are lit

[inland meteor]

but ye mushroom raid

[ebon reef]

i can send a TLDR here but im gonna get beamed for spam

[vivid vessel]

this expac is the least hype expac of all expac

[cinder relic]

Yeah ion is gonna take 5 minutes to talk about lua errors

[teal dust]

draenor

[glass mortar]

ye idk story feels weird and disjointed i think the pacing is suffering from them trying to do like a "trilogy" of expacs

[inland meteor]

why did ion announce the housing trailer with "one last thing"

[jolly geyser]

was a tribute

[ebon reef]

they said theyre "fixing bugs"

[jolly geyser]

to ozzy

[vivid vessel]

me when its 30 min of housing trailer

(housing is already on live)

[exotic agate]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[vivid vessel]

everyone knwos about it

[glass mortar]

it is abit funny to announce the prepatch event thats already been live but like i said

this is clearly aimed at people not playing wow rn

if u expected it to get u hyped u probably went in with the wrong idea

[lunar thorn]

Gotta say...didn't really convince me to return

[vivid vessel]

delete wow bro !

[glass mortar]

they almost got me with megadungeon delve

[vivid vessel]

#nukeworldofwarcraft

[glass mortar]

then i remembered they removed most specs agency when dealing with npcs

and i dont believe they r gunna manage to make fun challenging content for solo players when most classes toolkits have been gutted

so thats a bummer

[wintry solar]

I thought it was cool

what little we learned at least

[vivid vessel]

of course you did

popo

=poop

[keen belfry]

!wa

[wintry solar]

zac you suck the life out of everything ever

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[vivid vessel]

there is no life in housing

[glass mortar]

i mean they are never gunna advirtise to u zac wtf r they gunna advirt in a video like this

[lime lake]

lmao

[glass mortar]

i honestly dont even know why they bother going "yes there will be a new pvp season and new dungeons season!"

like all the hardcore players already know what content is coming out for them it comes out identically every new expac

why even advirtise it

[wintry solar]

"we have nothing specific to show yet"

[teal dust]

nothing is gonna hype zac up unless its a crackshot comeback

[wintry solar]

this is the equivalent to a meeting that couldve been an email

[glass mortar]

i mean i genuinly dont know what could be in an announcement trailer like this that would hype up zac

[vivid vessel]

idk

[glass mortar]

because the content he enjoys the most is not something they are going to do big changes to anytime soon

[vivid vessel]

anything that isnt housing

[glass mortar]

not to say i think the trailer was hype at all either

[lime lake]

big delves hype

[teal dust]

i mean he streams sub raid and outlaw m+ regardless he is hyped or not anyways

so

[wintry solar]

im gonna send it to people who stopped playing and see what they say

[low glade]

for sure thought zac was gonna be hyped about delve rework

[wintry solar]

I liked it but only because she was hot and I like Ozzy

also rogue rep

extremely rare rogue representation

[glass mortar]

i mean the last anime thing i thought might be a new storyline or something or showcase a new style they were gunna give us a bunch of story cinimatics in? remember the bfa jaina stuff

but then it was just some more housing slop w/e

[lime lake]

me when they advertise their flagship feature of midnight

[teal dust]

the only representation that we get from blizz is in a fucking housing trailer

go figure

[glass mortar]

i mean its fine to advirtise it

[keen belfry]

do you guys think they forget to add rogue notes in yesterday cause they are so big?

[glass mortar]

they advirtised it like 4 other times in the "reveal" tho

[lime lake]

yeah they didnt fit

[glass mortar]

idk the energy he gave me at the end was "and now for something unexpected"

[severe charm]

what gave away that she was a rogue?

[glass mortar]

there was nothing unexpected in that video tho

[keen belfry]

my thoughts too

[lime lake]

maybe she was a survival hunter

[frail veldt]

could have been yeah

[glass mortar]

the part where she vanished

was probably the part where shes a rogue

[lime lake]

also the shoulders are warfront leather

[severe charm]

she didn't vanish she recalled to her house

[lime lake]

so its a rogue

[glass mortar]

she recalled to her house and her recalling to her house required her walking all the way through town to get to her house?

is that where ur house teleport takes u?

i havent used it myself i genuinly dont know

[lime lake]

vanish doesnt take me to the housing district either

[frail veldt]

lol

yall thinking too hard about this

[lime lake]

theres very little thought here

[glass mortar]

didnt it literally have the vanish sound effect

[lime lake]

just memes

[glass mortar]

smh these people wont even accept the rogue representation that blizz gives them

[cinder relic]

SHE HAD DREADBLADES IN HER BUCKET

[wintry solar]

trying to find a twitch streamer for the decor reward thats not obnoxious to listen to

[cinder relic]

[wintry solar]

NO WAY

I MISSED THAT

MY BELOVED

[lime lake]

outlaw weapons left on display in house

bc not used

fitting

[wintry solar]

Real

[cinder relic]

that one dude who hates everything

[wintry solar]

theyre hinting at my fav ability coming back

omega cope

[lime lake]

nah i love it

[mighty pivot]

popo would get in someone's van if he was promised dreadblades

[lime lake]

same

tbh

[wintry solar]

I carry so yeah

[severe charm]

oh you right shes a rogue i missed the first part of the cinematic

[low glade]

rogue disc tinfoilers moving like qanon looking for hidden signs in housing trailers