outlaw

[keen belfry]

Wooooo

Hot hands can be fun on totem

[lunar thorn]

crtitcal flaw with enhance though, gamebreaking

they can't use swords

[tropic zephyr]

Yeah I tried it at beginning of S3 it's nice too

Haven't tried on prepatch tho

[frail veldt]

biiiig true

[lunar thorn]

Really hate how blizz has slowly phased out 1h swords to be str only

criminal

[silk stirrup]

What

There's plenty of int 1h swords as well

[potent ore]

I think outlaw is really fun atm, don't think I like preparation tho

[round rampart]

I haven't played Outlaw in a while but yesterday I did and man it's very high APM ? I love it 😄

[pastel pendant]

No way ur serious lol

[reef ruin]

Do the apex talents help with any of the issues being discussed here? I havent touched beta at all

[proven ocean]

Moot’s alt account is crazy, u made one right after u got muted

[round rampart]

wait what haha :p nah tbf I'm really enjoying the changes done to outlaw

[proven ocean]

Sure buddy

[coarse parcel]

I guess we are swapping to ElvUI

[pastel pendant]

How is that possible? They’re a downgrade in every possible way

[plain fox]

Oh boy, I think fire mage with 3 skills pressing more fast keybord than outlaw now

[hasty warren]

peak gameplay

[pastel pendant]

It’s over I’m rerolling fury war now I can’t believe I’m saying it but it’s faster and way more fun than outlaw rn

[nova sinew]

in terms of raid viability you couldnt really get worse than old outlaw

[mighty pivot]

enjoy Skyhold

[hasty warren]

because outlaw is viable now ?

[nova sinew]

its more viable in prog than before, i would wager

[pastel pendant]

Who cares about raiding anyways lol mplus and pvp all that matters

[nova sinew]

bro tried to sneak pvp in there

[mighty pivot]

@wintry solar thoughts on PvP being a game mode?

[gaunt phoenix]

@proven ocean @pastel pendant that guy was most definitely not an alt account, just a newer player

And maybe it's time to cool it and let people enjoy things, seeing as you drove them out of the server

[coarse parcel]

survival hunter is quite fun also

[tame dagger]

survival was more fun to play before the prepatch its just much stronger number wise now

[coarse parcel]

everything was funnier to play before

in case you didnt' notice

[tame dagger]

ill get hate for this but i actually enjoy outlaw more now

[coarse parcel]

you paid for the game, enjoy whatever you want

[crimson spade]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[crimson spade]

Sims when ?

[proven ocean]

Oh wtf, i msged him might come back

[mighty pivot]

I missed the drama earlier?

[proven ocean]

Nothing he just left because i thought he was moot or someshit

Probably zach said something i didjt say anything bad

[gaunt phoenix]

Probably a combination of that and zach questioning him for daring to say he likes outlaw rn

Like we're not going to circlejerk over how bad we think outlaw is and not allow dissenting opinions

[quaint mauve]

shame….

shame….

shame on you

[proven ocean]

Tf do u want

[quaint mauve]

i also like outlaw rn tho

i like blade rush

but

i have dps charts off

[proven ocean]

Find someone else to talk about dont reply to me some random bs

[quaint mauve]

and im doing reclears in raid

[tame dagger]

its for the best

[quaint mauve]

take a chill pill

[mighty pivot]

solo... where new roles? raise eyebrow emoji

[gaunt phoenix]

Idk

[mighty pivot]

[vapid sundial]

They need to remove the auto spread for LR

[wicked acorn]

midnight

just like

removed all the complexity hey

[quaint sable]

Nah they added complexity in the form of u having to fight against their UI to get the data u need

[wicked acorn]

Is it fun or is it boring now?

[quaint sable]

I mean outlaw now is very simple and I can play it very relaxed. I am spending more my brainpower tryna figure out what mobs actually cast/doig what

Its still p enjoyable but just not the same.

[untold wadi]

aka no longer on crack

sad shit

cracked out outlaw will be missed

[quaint sable]

like hitting jackpot and then getting into an adren twhere u get several ace procs give sa decent rush

but crackshot was def on a diff level

[wicked acorn]

i liked the crack part

thats why i played it

soothed the adhd

[quaint sable]

Ye now its p relaxed no crack

[wicked acorn]

whats the apm like compared to sub/sin

[quaint sable]

still higher

[jade abyss]

!ui

[ornate heath]

Outlaw Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/outlaw-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/outlaw-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/outlaw-rogue

[wintry solar]

Big fan

[wintry solar]

Wtf is this blasphemy

[desert tendon]

popo = big fan

[wintry solar]

Do you not see what's done around here? You WILL be harassed for liking outlaw (for legal reasons this is a joke)

[wintry solar]

True

I like all content

Alllllll content

[desert tendon]

same

i like any content that s not wow

unless it's zero vs zac argues

[wintry solar]

No I like all wow content

[desert tendon]

or guy vs zac

actually, any zac argue is kinda cinema

[wintry solar]

I dont

Midnight needs to hurry and release

[hasty warren]

I have no hope left for midnight outlaw

[coarse parcel]

[wintry solar]

We should start handing timeouts for people who enjoy it

[patent mirage]

Or

We should give them to people that can't move on already

[wintry solar]

Thered be nobody left

[river wing]

you guys not investing in TLT hopium stocks already? way to be late to the party

[tropic zephyr]

Can we make the case to a court of law that blizzard changing outlaw this way is discrimination against adhd?

[wintry solar]

@mighty pivot and I already doomed for TLT so we're ahead of the curve

[desert tendon]

liking outlaw now is like liking HO outlaw

dont @me and ask what it means

am i good at baiting or?

[wintry solar]

I know exactly what you mean

[mighty pivot]

popo=poop

[mighty pivot]

Pet battler popo

[small lion]

Hello guys! Which is the ebst race (in terms of dps) for outlaw?

[wintry solar]

Yeah

[covert kestrel]

race choice is a very minimal minmax so better to pick a race you enjoy. However traditionally it has been dwarf/Tauren but things like goblins 1% haste might make gearing a bit cozier cause we want a lot of haste now

[exotic gale]

perfect recomendation to test some outlaw gameplay

[jolly geyser]

[gaunt phoenix]

Goblin

[fervent garden]

so i finally got a chance to really test out new Outlaw this weekend. I know we were told about APM, but wow so much slower. Is this how other specs have played in the past? Watching like 2-3 things, nothing real urgent.

[small lion]

Uff goblin is ugly as f... Is crit good stat? I like blood elfs

[gaunt phoenix]

All races are within 1-1.5% dps

[covert kestrel]

through the WHAT

[covert kestrel]

rude. i only have goblins

PEAK

[fervent garden]

ha. fartbuckle

[wicked kestrel]

Man of commitment I love. I am the same with dwarves

[wintry solar]

Same with undead

I can't play right if it's not undead idk why

Mental thing I guess

https://tenor.com/view/undead-world-of-warcraft-rogue-gif-15630098097685284776

[wicked kestrel]

Gotta respect it

[radiant wyvern]

an old meme, but so abstracted, do people post it not knowing it originates from pedobear ?

[jolly geyser]

spurdo more like the bear tbh

[radiant wyvern]

thats what its from

[potent ore]

got a graph on that for midnight?

[exotic gale]

the frontier 🤠

idk im european

[covert kestrel]

just a joke about my name

[exotic gale]

didnt see lol i had OBS on and it turns on streamer mode

[desert tendon]

mf

[small lion]

is mastery good for rogue? I could be dracthyr

[low glade]

guy's cold blade of reason cut through this last round if insanity for me finally

i get it now

[upper surge]

I was very entertained

[copper radish]

Would yall play wow if they skipped over the console and just made a mobile version of it 😂

Aka iPhone gaming 😂

[wintry solar]

You seen those ads too huh

[covert kestrel]

worst stat, but you still could be dracthyr if you like their vibes

[desert tendon]

cant wait to play wow impact on mobile

[covert kestrel]

anime waifu jaina goes hard, gotta open up 1500 gacha packs so i can unlock her bikini mog

[desert tendon]

i m buying it all

waifu thrall is hot there

[wintry solar]

@mighty pivot no work again tonight

[buoyant stratus]

Hello fello piratebay enjoyers

What do we think about this

I have been browsing ye old beta logs

And i cant fathom why this is performing so well compared to taking ace zero in and 3x crit dam

Ive tried it and it feels weaker to me idk

[gaunt phoenix]

it was an exploratory build before sims, i dont think it is worth it now

[mighty pivot]

because of the storm?

[wintry solar]

Yeah

Maybe tomorrow too

So far I only worked 2 days this week

[exotic gale]

its monday

[keen belfry]

Get him mc weasel

[vivid vessel]

imagine talking in real weeks instead of wow resets

its the end of the week rn

[exotic gale]

its easier for french ppl who got wednesday off

[vivid vessel]

thats not a thing

[keen belfry]

French…

[vivid vessel]

wednesday off in france is only the afternoon when you are in middle school

[exotic gale]

reddit says elementary schools = free wednesday

[vivid vessel]

ye thats false tho

its the afternoon from like

one sec i need to do school conversion

[exotic gale]

so you telling me i got scammed ?

[vivid vessel]

ye so from start of school until trough elementary school

you get wednesday afternoon off

then its over

[exotic gale]

do kids drink wine in lunch breaks?

[vivid vessel]

ye of course

[exotic gale]

thank god something i heard is true

[mighty pivot]

brother this is the second day of the week

[gaunt phoenix]

tbf, if you are lacking crit gear, this version is barely ahead

[vivid vessel]

its litteraly the 6th day of the week buddy bud

if you are eu

[crimson spade]

You mean I'm working wow weekends ?

[mighty pivot]

it is the 6th day of new outlaw. How does it feel?

[wintry solar]

My week starts on Wednesday

[vivid vessel]

see

this guy is a real person

popo = poop

[mighty pivot]

calling popo a real person is a bit of a stretch

[vivid vessel]

listen ninja guy

[mighty pivot]

I am listening

zac are you the same person as @pastel pendant?

[buoyant stratus]

Im like 1k crit 400 versa 300 mast 600ish haste

Maybe thats why the bte talents felt giga

[keen belfry]

Zero in becomes quite good with a lot of crit

That was first thing I noticed when I played prepatch with crit gear vs beta with vers haste gear

[copper radish]

On that Louisiana time

[topaz roost]

ayy, sorry, I tried to check if people said what really changed on outlaw from last wednesday, is there somewhere I can check what really changed ? Like, what's the new talents to try, rotations, stuff like that ? (Sorry, I'm a big noob about those things, and about the game)

[covert kestrel]

[gaunt phoenix]

The tuning didnt really change stuff

[topaz roost]

Thanks !

[gaunt phoenix]

But I always keep the pins and #outlaw-faq updated with the current information

[covert kestrel]

because solo is the goat

[topaz roost]

In my defense, I'm dunb as F, didn't even think about the pins, ahah

[wintry solar]

It's my work week

[topaz roost]

You're the guy we all wants to be

[covert kestrel]

i wish solo was my dad

i would get more updates that way

[crimson spade]

And more milk

[fervent garden]

please adopt us solo

[nova sinew]

is there a reason to track energy on beta (real question)

[vivid vessel]

there is no reason to track energy on live either

for the past like

expac at least

but i mean have you ever played outlaw without energy tracking

its so weird cuase your spells dont go out

if you dont have energy

so if you dont see it

[nova sinew]

yeah thats the only thing i can think of

[vivid vessel]

its just awkard

[nova sinew]

like pressing feint might be weird

[vivid vessel]

yes

[nova sinew]

settling on 1 pixel tall

[keen belfry]

I think there’s gain to be had tracking energy with tea

I know on prepatch I’ve afk’d at and of pull to not proc a tea

[quaint sable]

Ye tea seems to sometimes take a beat to get consumed

[wet nest]

!ui

[ornate heath]

Outlaw Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/outlaw-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/outlaw-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/outlaw-rogue

[zinc briar]

meh, we'll macro tea with something hahaha

[keen belfry]

tea is weird

[vivid vessel]

body tea queen

slay

💅

[zinc briar]

tea skill is so uggly, should be a coffee

[keen belfry]

is cold blood fixed on beta

[mighty pivot]

ye

[keen belfry]

how good is the talent % wise

do u know

seems good

[zinc briar]

another expa being capped in aoe lets goooooooooooo

[mighty pivot]

dunno but it barely matters when both subterfuge and SC aren't great

[keen belfry]

i wonder how many zero in stacks we get in beta too

with high crit

cause if ti worked on beta i dont think it would do anything for BTE, bte is basically 100% crit

errr it would help with ace resets so nvm?

with zero in and base crit bte is like 95% crit chance on prepatch

[wicked kernel]

might be a dumb question but what does blade rush do in our rotation

just aoe?

[mighty pivot]

at 20 stacks?

[keen belfry]

yeah

60 + 47

[mighty pivot]

you don't always get to 20 stacks though

[cinder relic]

Deal damage, generate energy

[keen belfry]

on prepatch i normally do, but obvi not ace resets

83% crit in a key i did

with cb not working

[mighty pivot]

we have pretty disgusting stats because the squish was favourable in how it converts

in 1 month it's back to stat poverty

[coral onyx]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[keen belfry]

im gonna miss my 45% crit

makes sense

cb will help a bunch then again

[inland meteor]

do you fellas open with ambush? or just AR, rtb straight into bte

and say fuck stealth

[keen belfry]

ambush bad

[glass mortar]

you dont press ambush unless you have audacity and HO talented (which you shouldnt)

[inland meteor]

ok good all my homies hate ambush

[glass mortar]

dont need it on any of your bars

[wintry solar]

Gonna open with cheap like the old days

[keen belfry]

i actually odnt know our aoe opener

its weird cuz no uhuh with bf

i think yesterday first pull floodyg

it was like, RTB - BF (in range of enemies) blade rush BTE build KS into filler

been trying non LD rtb openers

[inland meteor]

i read somewhere to BF before the pull but idk that sounds weird

[hollow coyote]

is there a way to change the cp colors if they're at like 5-6

maybe with sensei

[keen belfry]

we used to for sure do that. but we had talents that would allow BF to not fall off during stealth

[inland meteor]

ye

[inland meteor]

not with sensei but you can with twintops resource bar

[keen belfry]

@fathom bramble

[inland meteor]

did you release it already

[keen belfry]

Not yet

Soon

[zinc briar]

wont be hard to play outlaw without wa?

i had some aura with sounds

[mild vigil]

I'm going to miss my WA that changed the sfx of killing spree

[vivid vessel]

you have a hole bro

[keen belfry]

U wanna fill it?

[snow viper]

There will be an addon for it eventually.

[vivid vessel]

hmge

[mild vigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/497459663382773760/972390877697818624/1651520294619.gif

[keen belfry]

My combo point bar pretty good

Looks like old WA nbd

[frail veldt]

They made the spec a lot easier so you should be okay

[mild vigil]

you still need good moment to moment decision making skills, but seeing what you have to work with is easier now compared to before

I personally miss the complexity, but I'm willing to let it grow on me so long as outlaw doesn't do tank dps (it will)

[frail veldt]

the only moment decisions now are picking between pressing SS or PS

everything else you can track the decision beforehand so youll know what to press well in advance like gravedigger proc for bte reset, roll rules(very simple now), even KiR/Prep are all very visible and simple with no reactive element to them

[vivid vessel]

why bf icon btw

we are back to bf bar buddy

[mild vigil]

yeah, it is kinda sadge

[frail veldt]

bars suck

[vivid vessel]

no

[frail veldt]

I like spiral better for tracking duration

[vivid vessel]

you always need a bar

[craggy barn]

bar king

[frail veldt]

narp

bar is ugly

[vivid vessel]

i like circle aswell true

[frail veldt]

bars are for resources

[vivid vessel]

for debuffs

[inland meteor]

im a big bar enjoyer

[vivid vessel]

im glad they removed that

cant have bars for debuffs anymore

[frail veldt]

good

[vivid vessel]

that was too op

[keen belfry]

i dont like a bar for something that constantly is ticking down, i liked it for intermittent stuff like crackshot or shadow dance. but iwant to find a bar to use. i initially was using rtb as a bar

[frail veldt]

ugly

[vivid vessel]

cringe bro

i had bf bar all of sl

[frail veldt]

imagine using a bar to track time

[vivid vessel]

and df

till crackshot

[frail veldt]

like bro have you never seen a clock?

[vivid vessel]

bars are op for things like that

that you need to see precisely

when it will expire

[frail veldt]

you got bad eyes or what

[vivid vessel]

its way easier to press bf on the last gcd with a bar than a number going down

[inland meteor]

beat it, four eyes

[frail veldt]

I dont find that to be true at all lol

[vivid vessel]

i do hjave glasses ye

[vivid vessel]

bro its a graphic going down vs a number stfu noob

you are wrong

[frail veldt]

theyre both a graphic going down...

and a number

[vivid vessel]

you are noob

[frail veldt]

they both display the exact same info

[vivid vessel]

dont talk to me

noobie

[frail veldt]

did you use a bar for bf in tww?

[vivid vessel]

no i had a bar for crackshot

[frail veldt]

why not bf

just cuz you didnt refresh it on duration?

[patent mirage]

Not again

[vivid vessel]

bro bf was infinite

tf you mean

i was barely tracking bf

[patent mirage]

Remember if it works for you it does for you

[frail veldt]

yeah thats what I would say to most people but zac I will argue with

spiral is goat

[craggy barn]

i gotta side with zac here unfort

[frail veldt]

learn to read a clock

zoomers cant tell time with an analog clock I forgot

[craggy barn]

[inland meteor]

bro is putting a rolex on his ui

[keen belfry]

mewo talking about butt stuff again

[frail veldt]

all day errday

[inland meteor]

also @keen belfry you're using upscaled icons right

why tf dont mine work anymore

did you change anything

[shadow trellis]

Is bf not on pandemic? icon with a number is kinda simplerfor that, tho i havent looked too much into outlaw idk how prio is bf

[keen belfry]

i am yes

[inland meteor]

its just ICONS folder in interface right? or did something change

[vivid vessel]

never has been on pandemic

no clue why tho

[shadow trellis]

Ohh

[frail veldt]

its complex technology

[olive spire]

does pandemic works for any buffs or just dots?

[shadow trellis]

works for slice and dice im sure

[frail veldt]

does it?

[upper hawk]

they're sure

[frail veldt]

rofl

[shadow trellis]

I think

xD

[frail veldt]

I thought pandemic was a debuff thing

for dots specifically

[shadow trellis]

Chat gpt says yes

[craggy barn]

slice was pandemicd

[frail veldt]

not like you could pandemic ghostly strike

[keen belfry]

honestly i do not remember

[craggy barn]

bf prob not pandemic bc its been changed so many times

[inland meteor]

frick

[frail veldt]

yeah so pandemic is only hots and dots it seems

wonder if theres a flag on wowhead

[upper hawk]

isn't envenom a buff and doesn't it pandemic?

[vivid vessel]

snd is pandemic tho

[mighty pivot]

it also says it is maintained by rupture

[vivid vessel]

itsn ot only dots and hots

[zinc briar]

but why is ppl saying that we do damage of tanks?

[frail veldt]

oh tru

[vivid vessel]

idk we have beebn doing tank damage all season

[zinc briar]

saw kushlul on stream doing good dmg

[frail veldt]

I cant find a flag on wowhead

[cinder relic]

People are a bit dramatic

[vivid vessel]

ye thats prepatch and beta who knows

people are talking about live

we do tank damage on liv e

thats not being dramatic

[frail veldt]

well live is pre patch

[vivid vessel]

whatever

ignore prepatch

wtf is prepatch

[zinc briar]

ah yes we are always god of beta to be the worst dps in live

[severe charm]

isn't live currently just fixing your ui simulator

[zinc briar]

true

[frail veldt]

tww s3 we did do tank damage yeah lol

[vivid vessel]

i dont even get why we get a prepatch bro

prepatch is legit like

[mighty pivot]

to set up cdm

[vivid vessel]

ok look guys

[frail veldt]

nah some people are running keys to test stuff

[glass mortar]

to beta test the game

[upper hawk]

at least we get 6 weeks of prepatch.

[vivid vessel]

we know beta is all broken

lets put that on live

good luck guys

[frail veldt]

its to force us to test for them

duh

[vivid vessel]

game is now unplayable till midnight

okok

[glass mortar]

easiest free testers

infact they are paying u to test on prepatch

blizzard has had this down to a science for decades bozo

😎

[zinc briar]

seems like exp gonna be a disaster

full of problems

[severe charm]

no need for a qa team, we are the qa team

[craggy barn]

id rather get a prepatch so that when midnight is launched the download size isnt huge and the servers dont omega crash

[zinc briar]

np we will have a beautiful house

[glass mortar]

i mean u know theyve had the tech to predownload major patches before they release on live for years right

[craggy barn]

who cares about prepatch rn anyways

[vivid vessel]

ok but they basically delete the game

for 4 weeks bro

[craggy barn]

terraria update is in 1 day

[glass mortar]

prepatch isnt needed for that process at all

[severe charm]

but you forget its blizzard, what xpac launch have the servers not been a dumpster fire

[vivid vessel]

like you cant play the season anymore

id k

preaptch is so weir

[dim widget]

am i forced to interact with that trash system

[vivid vessel]

it shouldbt last 6 weeks

maybe 1 week bro

fine

[frail veldt]

6 is long yeah

[vivid vessel]

but wtf is 6 weeks of prepatch

[frail veldt]

I thought they used to be shorter

[vivid vessel]

what are we doing

[craggy barn]

df was fine, tww was fine

[vivid vessel]

they legit delete live

[frail veldt]

maybe its so you go outside and touch grass @vivid vessel

[vivid vessel]

for 6 weeks

you cant do keys anymore

[inland meteor]

i thought it was 4 weeks usually

[vivid vessel]

raiding doesnt make snese either

[inland meteor]

weird that its 6 now

[vivid vessel]

and i guess gg

idk

6 or 4 idk

same shit

its too long

[severe charm]

they just expect everyone to be so amazed at housing that nothing else matters for 6 weeks

[vivid vessel]

should be 1

[dim widget]

how was df fine? i rememmber entire servers mass dying because of flying buggy boat

[craggy barn]

shrug it was fine for me

the only server i know that died

was the big one

[glass mortar]

i got seperated from my leveling friends by 15 minutes because the ship to new zone failed for like half the people taking it

[severe charm]

clicks loot corpse, 5 minutes later corpse is looted, yep seems fine

[craggy barn]

the one big mega server

[glass mortar]

and u got stuck in ur faction capitol

[craggy barn]

that everyone is on for no reason

area52

[dim widget]

ye because they took a lot of others dfown for couple hours

[glass mortar]

that was about the worst that df start was

[inland meteor]

world boss spawns, whole zone fucking unplayable

[severe charm]

why do we all play on area 52, i still havn't figured out why my guild decided on that cursed server

[craggy barn]

ur fucking idiots for playing on 52

[dim widget]

servers are outdated anyway

[craggy barn]

that server is old and dies

[frail veldt]

I mean this is just the nature of having 10x your normal player count online at once

[craggy barn]

constantly

[dim widget]

idk why servers are still a thing, they dont serve any puirpose since sharding

[frail veldt]

its not like theyre gona upgarde their whole server infrastructure for the 2 weeks at the start of an expansion every 2 years

[frail veldt]

you dont know that

servers very well could literally be for handling traffic

[severe charm]

blizz hasn't upgraded there servers for what over a decade

[frail veldt]

theres a lot that goes into network design for mmos its not that trivial

[dim widget]

yes ofc servers are needed

[craggy barn]

mewo, non network engineers wont know

[frail veldt]

im not a network engineer and I still know that shits complicated af

[dim widget]

but naming them and separating players/guilds and having to pick one is outdatet since sharding

[frail veldt]

guilds arent restricted cross server anymore

[craggy barn]

ur some kinda engineer according to ur name so u know enough

[dim widget]

exactly, so why is there strill server suffixes

[frail veldt]

probably some back end thing

[dim widget]

no, they just forgor

[frail veldt]

bit of identity attached to it as well

also what qol are you looking for in removing them

[dim widget]

sevrer identity

get a load of this guy

[frail veldt]

is there value in the work it would ltake to delete them

[severe charm]

they jus don't want to upgrade the way they did it at first

[dim widget]

more flexibility

[frail veldt]

wdym

you can already join parties cross server

and guilds

and everything

[dim widget]

no

for blizz

maintenance

emewrgency stuff

[frail veldt]

?

[dim widget]

is easier

but

[frail veldt]

the back end would still be the same in this hypothetical

[dim widget]

keeping servers around is more money for them

[frail veldt]

youre asking to remove the appearance of servers

which is arguably pointless

[severe charm]

isn't the only server specific, location? like some servers are east,west,central?

[dim widget]

exactly

[frail veldt]

yeah im asking whats the benefit there for the player lol

[dim widget]

its an artificial problem to sell you server transfers

[frail veldt]

there you go then

thats a reason to not remove them

[dim widget]

what

[frail veldt]

what

[dim widget]

thats a crazy reason to remove

its predatory doog monetization

[frail veldt]

I asked you what reason blizz would have to allocate resources to remove them

[dim widget]

no you asked whats the gain for the player

[frail veldt]

either lol

[severe charm]

servers are also region specific, which would be another reason not to remove them.

[vivid vessel]

you cant trade cross server easely, it takes a longer time to change server also on the char page, so like if you go to a char on x server and then a char on y server it takes time

also you cant mail stuffs to other servers

[frail veldt]

yeah I assume thats in part a back end limitation or an intentional choice so people dont abuse low pop for spawns or something

[craggy barn]

give me an mmo that doesnt use servers

[frail veldt]

but again would the amount of work it would take to "remove" servers be worth it over just slowly fixing the features and things you cant do cross server

[vivid vessel]

i mean its the same thing

idc

if they fix all the things that are annoyiung with servers

then idk its basically not here anywya

but at this point you can just remove it

oh

no actually

i have a big one bro

[untold wadi]

just set server transfer price to 0

[vivid vessel]

a big big one

[untold wadi]

ez fix

[vivid vessel]

the names on the head of people

you see the server if they are from another server

[severe charm]

blizz has server hubs all over the world, NA specifically you have like 9 server hub locations. so what server you choose matters.

[vivid vessel]

so annoying

but again

thats just a thing

that can be fixed

[dim widget]

ye but they wont, because they wanna sell you transfer services

[vivid vessel]

for free

[vivid vessel]

it doesnt lol you could just have the player be automatically placed in the optimal server for his location

which would make much more sense than the player having to know which server he should chose

to not get fuck ass ping

[dim widget]

yes and the tech is already there because of sharding

[vivid vessel]

but also thats just a na issue

[dim widget]

they are already using it

[vivid vessel]

na losers

L

[severe charm]

kinda annoying all the most popular servers are chicago

[glass mortar]

right i hate chicago

refuse to use a server thats based there

their pizza is lasagna!!

[craggy barn]

the server is a mile up!

[untold wadi]

lucky for those who live on top of the chicago server

[craggy barn]

their pizza is a casserole not lasagna

[severe charm]

AT&T owns the 3rd line networking there, and give zero fk's about gaming stability.

[vivid vessel]

N

third world country

[severe charm]

I only know this because when i had fiber they specifically had an issue with AT&T and I was re-routed all over the place to avoid chicago, due to some networking clause they had with AT&T

[dim widget]

only until they annex their first european subsidiary

[inland meteor]

greenland internet lfg

[vivid vessel]

na isnt annexing anyone

[severe charm]

sry its called level 3 communications, which lumen owns now, because AT&T lost the rights

[inland meteor]

to save all ur addon settings, keybinds etc you need to backup interface and wtf folder before reinstalling right

[vivid vessel]

interface just have the addons themselves

only wtf folder contain settings macros etc

and addon settings yes

[inland meteor]

alright thanks

[tropic zephyr]

When you make a new char you have to audibly say "WTF" for your keybinds to port over

[inland meteor]

i do that anyway once i gaze upon the ugly creature i have created

[tropic zephyr]

[untold wadi]

does this ship with d1 texture

[keen belfry]

i dont think thats possible is it @vivid vessel

[vivid vessel]

yes of course its possible

but i mean i think its better to have sharedmedia support

you have sharedmedia support?

say yes noob !

[keen belfry]

i do

[vapid blaze]

hello addon support
is there a way i can make the utility group grow left but horizontal?

[keen belfry]

my addon uses d1 and i didnt add it to my addon, so it reads sharedmedia

[vivid vessel]

well idk

depends

are you noob and did you directly put the texture path

in your addon

or are you doing it properly

using sharedmedia

[keen belfry]

local LSM = LibStub and LibStub("LibSharedMedia-3.0", true)

mhm

d1 is not in my code

[vivid vessel]

if you say so bro

[untold wadi]

yay

[lime walrus]

Hi guys, Is Deft Maneuvers actually working for Outlaw Rogue or am I missing something? I’m hitting 5 targets with Blade Flurry up but I’m still only getting 1 combo point. I thought I was supposed to get CP per target hit. Is this talent bugged or am I misunderstanding how it works?

[glass mortar]

are you trying it on the pvp dummies? it might not work properly on them

it doesnt work on pvp targets like pets in general ive found

[inland meteor]

you only get the CPs on the initial hit of BF

[glass mortar]

oh i see

[inland meteor]

like when u first activate it

[glass mortar]

its only the initial attack that gives CP yea

not every single single one

activating BF gives a CP for each target hit

[untold wadi]

imagine

5 point sinister while BF active

[gaunt phoenix]

wits

[inland meteor]

12 minute cd

[glass mortar]

welcome back wits

[vivid vessel]

weran

[glass mortar]

welcome back zac

[lime walrus]

I’m activating it while standing in the middle of 5 mobs and I’m not even getting 1 combo point.

why

[glass mortar]

are u soloing legacy content or something

what targets r u hitting

[lime walrus]

im doing leveling dunguons

[vivid vessel]

did you talent into it bro

[lime walrus]

yeah i did

[vivid vessel]

no you didnt

[untold wadi]

proof

[vivid vessel]

show proof

pic or lie

[lime walrus]

sure 1 sec

[glass mortar]

Bf breaking in legacy content on a new patch is a tale as old as time but it would be good to remove possible other causers yea

[vivid vessel]

also i want a pic of you bf tooltip on your bars

or from book

[lime walrus]

sure

[vivid vessel]

window + shift + s for screenshots

dont send me no gyazo shit

[glass mortar]

god zac ur so toxic

smh

have u even logged into the new game yet

[vivid vessel]

ye for 5 min

[inland meteor]

best i can do is phone pic of monitor

[untold wadi]

[vivid vessel]

why is this screenshot taking so long

[proven ocean]

are u screenshotting my cock

[vivid vessel]

he is tampering with evidence

or what

[proven ocean]

it takes a long time for it to load

[vivid vessel]

photoshoping ?

[vivid vessel]

ye bud

[glass mortar]

why would he need to shop for photos

[vivid vessel]

!ban @proven ocean

[craggy barn]

u said to pic or lie

[lime walrus]

no i just loggin

[vivid vessel]

hm

maybe its bugged during leveling

since you are so low level

no one ever test for that

[craggy barn]

go to training aoe dummies

and test

to double check

[glass mortar]

is ur bf 1 shotting those questing mobs

or is it legit just doing damage then giving no CP

how would they even managed to break this

[vivid vessel]

dont think that would matter or

[craggy barn]

maybe the talent point shuffle fucked up

[glass mortar]

idk it could, 1 shotting mobs makes BF not do damage to other ones but who knows

[lime walrus]

no i cant 1 shotting mobs

im only 18 level

[untold wadi]

untalent it and retalent or smth

[lime walrus]

21

pardon

i tried

not worked

[silver venture]

21

[vivid vessel]

i mean idk since its leveling

its not uncommon for things to be bugged

[copper barn]

just logged into prepatch. what's the vibe on outlaw? it seems pretty smooth to play so far

[vivid vessel]

during leveling

[glass mortar]

i just dont even understand what could be breaking it like, deft only gives CP if it hits a certain level mob?

i dont think any BF upgrades r granted as u level anymore

like passives or something in the spellbook

gj blozzard

[toxic skiff]

Anyone has a good outlaw build for beta?

nvm i'm dumb

[keen belfry]

its ok

[desert tendon]

u r a passive or something in the spellbook

[glass mortar]

censi, brann check???

[desert tendon]

still stucin S2

frfr

are there delves in midnight?

[inland meteor]

yes we are delving with our queen valeera

[keen belfry]

cdm + hi rez icons + awang bar

+cdm centered addon

[frail veldt]

its comical to me we need an addon to center the cdm

[keen belfry]

yeah lmao

[proven ocean]

gnawa

[keen belfry]

zngraaw

[proven ocean]

zngraaw

Tf is that

[desert tendon]

@glass mortar valeera outfit check

[frail veldt]

ssorez

[keen belfry]

u know theres dk in my guild name gnawa right zeross

[inland meteor]

do me next

[copper barn]

Between the Eyes doesn't reset with full combo points anymore right?

[proven ocean]

ssorez wtf is that

??

[glass mortar]

imagine thinking id ever use stinking valeera

[haughty wigeon]

its not worth trying to reason with mafic

good attempt tho

[frail veldt]

?sdrawkcab sgniht gnipyt uoy era yhw

[gaunt phoenix]

It doesnt

[desert tendon]

u better, she s my waifu in wow impact on mobile, i spend thousand on her outfits in gachas every month

[gaunt phoenix]

@keen belfry share awangbar?

[glass mortar]

that would require i be playing the game tho censi

[desert tendon]

oh you re quitting?

[glass mortar]

still havent reinstalled it...

[proven ocean]

yadot fa gnisufnoc era syug u

[glass mortar]

i might reinstall pandaria tho...

play my warlock abit

[desert tendon]

Weran has good taste he quitted

i have good taste i quitted

quitting wow is good taste confirmed

[mighty pivot]

no need for bte combo point refunds life

[proven ocean]

ecno rof ylreporp epyt ew nac? @frail veldt

[keen belfry]

i will post it today, i think just for rogues atm tho

[desert tendon]

zero

wdym cat ear collector

[proven ocean]

U dont wanna know the lore

Trust me

[gaunt phoenix]

it's faster than sensei, yeah?

[desert tendon]

also i m a big fan of you zerocool

[proven ocean]

I saw a freeky ass twitch msg

And it caused my brain to lag up to 24 hrs

Maybe i should remove it from my name nvm

[frail veldt]

?ereht revo ti od yeht woh siht sI ?ylreporp deredisnoc sdrawkcab gnipyt si yhw

[keen belfry]

i think it is, it uses the same way bcm sets up their combo points instead of sensei

[gaunt phoenix]

huge

[proven ocean]

ftw

[frail veldt]

can I make the squares into circles?

[proven ocean]

@desert tendon check dm’s

[keen belfry]

uhhhh i dont think so? i could look into that

[desert tendon]

i see nuu dms bozo

[keen belfry]

@proven ocean

[proven ocean]

Fine

Its just a msg

[desert tendon]

Gnawa what a bad name ngl

could be worse tho

could be awang...

[proven ocean]

@gaunt phoenix idk if its too fked up delete it

[gaunt phoenix]

[proven ocean]

Like

[desert tendon]

solo do you collect cat ears?

[proven ocean]

Does he cut cat’s ears

And places them in a box

Or what

I have so many questions

[desert tendon]

i imagine him having PSA10 rated cat ears now

[proven ocean]

Oh

[glass mortar]

i assumed box full of cat ears like

https://tenor.com/view/tubbo-cat-ears-tubbo-cat-ears-tubbo-cat-cat-gif-23298352

[proven ocean]

Idk its the jar of cat piss that made me suspect something else

[covert kestrel]

zeross facecam leak wow

[proven ocean]

??

[glass mortar]

yea that ones more unhinged so it draws into question the first one

[desert tendon]

i can leak zeross face

for some btc

[glass mortar]

i already leaked zeross ears

[proven ocean]

Blackmail

[glass mortar]

thats all we need no?

[desert tendon]

i m no zeross ears collector

[covert kestrel]

i cant wait to see zeross' uwu pink cozy gamer room

[proven ocean]

How did u know

I mean no

I dont have a pink cozy gamer room with hello kitty headphones

[desert tendon]

zeross with his razer cat headset and redbull mini fridge

[past falcon]

pink cozy gamer room you say?

[covert kestrel]

zeross' setup is sick

[proven ocean]

???

[gaunt phoenix]

am i crazy or dispatch has a new animation

[desert tendon]

zero setup is PEAK

[desert tendon]

give us a gif

[frail veldt]

like just now?

thats wild

[proven ocean]

W gooner room

[past falcon]

ngl the razer cat headset is just not quality, mine didnt last more than like 1.5 years

[gaunt phoenix]

idk if I just didnt notice it on patch

[proven ocean]

?? SO U HAD A PINK HEADSET

[desert tendon]

if anything razer last more than 6 months, then it's not a real razer low quality shit

hate razer

[past falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-callouts-rogue-gif-26757787

[desert tendon]

tbf they have some decent keyboards, but the pricing is just not it and make it bad

[covert kestrel]

my deathadder living for 12 years

[keen belfry]

@gaunt phoenix and sensei "fills" up combo points while mine just turns the box white, if that makes sense

[desert tendon]

how dare you share my face like that

[past falcon]

only razer product i still have is my mouse

[proven ocean]

Guys

I wanna ask a genuine question ok

Chz

I was at work

[desert tendon]

they have good mice tbh, but again, the pricing is just not it

😒

[proven ocean]

Then like

[covert kestrel]

is work osrs grinding or like rl job

[proven ocean]

My manager told me i have to be hard when adjusting these papers (they got some weird texture)

I told him dw im always hard

[glass mortar]

......

[proven ocean]

Did i fuck up

[past falcon]

lmfao

[desert tendon]

do u still have a job?

[glass mortar]

idk is ur manager hot?

[proven ocean]

Whays that question

[proven ocean]

Why do u assume every manager is a blonde girl in a bikini like the movies

[keen belfry]

im going to deep clean my plac etoday, any tips

[glass mortar]

who is assuming that

[keen belfry]

ill post awang bar first tho

[proven ocean]

Idk

[glass mortar]

i guess i know what ross considers hot now but that wasnt my question

😠

[desert tendon]

blonde is not hot

just saying

[glass mortar]

wtf isnt valeera blonde

[desert tendon]

if you like blondes you probably also like HO and have bad taste

hot take

[keen belfry]

censi likes black hair

[past falcon]

woah

[glass mortar]

censi hates valeera!

i knew it all along

[desert tendon]

i love to shitpost my gosh

[keen belfry]

my favorite hair color is personality ❤️

[desert tendon]

🏄‍♂️ 🏄‍♀️

[keen belfry]

and heart

[mighty pivot]

that can be disabled by not having Smooth Progress ticked though

[past falcon]

wow he's so noble ❤️

[proven ocean]

Rl job

[desert tendon]

idc your natural hair color

[keen belfry]

book store, barnes and

[proven ocean]

Had to think for 4 mins on what that said

[desert tendon]

just dye it red

tyvm

[past falcon]

u know who else has a redhead kink

[glass mortar]

isnt that normal dispatch

[past falcon]

zimbita.

[keen belfry]

i think its faster even without, but lmk

[glass mortar]

i think ur weapons r just making it weird?

[desert tendon]

idk who that is

[proven ocean]

I killed awakened vardovis, leviathan 2 hits away from dying @covert kestrel

Soon blood torva

[desert tendon]

that s nelf animation no?

[proven ocean]

[desert tendon]

[vivid vessel]

thats one of the dispatch ani m

there is multiple tho

[gaunt phoenix]

I mean the orange effect off of the mob

i dont think i noticed that before

[vivid vessel]

ah idk

[glass mortar]

oh the explosion?

[vivid vessel]

dont think i would ever have looked at that

[glass mortar]

why is it exploding

does it do that vs normal mobs too

[gaunt phoenix]

Idk

yes

[proven ocean]

I think that dispatch is old

Like

Not old but

1 season ago

They changed it so

Or something

[glass mortar]

i think thats one of the races dispatches theres a couple but idk about the exploding off to the side

[proven ocean]

But it was 2025

[glass mortar]

idr that but also its such a quick animation idk if ud ever notice it in a field of mobs or vs giant npcs so like

would we even know

btw when do we get a glyph to turn off the tumbleweed

[mighty pivot]

glyph of rolling capybara when

[past falcon]

glyph of seaweed

[proven ocean]

Glyph of cumexposure

Glyph of explosion*

Typo

i wonder why my phone autocorrected it my b

[patent mirage]

for certain the animation is different with the new apex talent

but dispatch is kinda different now

[glass mortar]

yea im checking zacs old vods and i dont see that explosion off dispatch

im not sure why... disaptch is causing an explosion

but ok new animations ig

[patent mirage]

i think it looks closer to the ability run through when outlaw was introduced

[glass mortar]

wait either bte or the dispatch proc off crackshot bte seems like it causes that

[keen belfry]

mines faster @gaunt phoenix @mighty pivot smooth progress off

[glass mortar]

maybe the body zac was hitting was just too big to see it

@gaunt phoenix https://www.youtube.com/live/PjG16xCYv4E?si=1Ro1XQpbCb3wFdlk&t=874

looks like when zac is crackshotting on the imrisoned guy u have the same splash effect from the crackshot procS?

idk if its bte or dispatch causing it tho

[keen belfry]

solo got @ back to back emssagbes

[gaunt phoenix]

his dispatch definitely does it

[glass mortar]

yea i might just not have been able to see it on the boss body

this is from a month ago tho, so seems it isnt new

[keen belfry]

i havent been able to do this for my addon thoi, this was BCM vs sensei on beta

look at taht difference man

bcm is at 5 before sensei is at 4

[frail veldt]

sp e e e e d

[frail veldt]

can you compare this with the default cps as well?

if you have the time

im very curious

[gaunt phoenix]

looks like Ace vs Menacing Rush is the same

[vivid vessel]

0 ace ?

[gaunt phoenix]

And that's prepatch before they buffed it

[vivid vessel]

holy huge bro

i always hated ace bro

get me out of ace

i want to press ss

[hasty warren]

and ps

[keen belfry]

ok final tier lsit ranking for combo points
awang/bcm

sensei

[vivid vessel]

the guy in the middle got 7cps you have 2 ?

gapped bro

skill issue

is massive

[keen belfry]

yeah cuz im so fast.

a.ll u see is cp amount

i used the cp before u see

[gaunt phoenix]

i dont get what im looking at

[hasty warren]

he has 2 cp ressources

[keen belfry]

3 combo point bar addons

top is better cooldown maanger
middle is sensei
bottom is awang

[gaunt phoenix]

why is the middle at 7

[keen belfry]

because its slower

[gaunt phoenix]

oh

[keen belfry]

it hasnt updated yet

[hasty warren]

sensei is slow ?

[keen belfry]

mhm

awang haters are in shambles

they are gonna ahve to download an awang addon

[past falcon]

give

[keen belfry]

might make it have a welcome prompt when u log in:
awang

[haughty wigeon]

this would be

so fucking horrible

but granted, i perfer this over 1 ace

[echo tapir]

whats it called if you dont mind me asking im using sensei but if its slow like that i dont wanna keep using it lol

[sly bone]

rotation breakdown question. say i get a 2 roll, KiR and get loaded dice before the roll ends, should i RtB before the roll ends?

[keen belfry]

atm its called awang resource bar but its not on curseforge

what should it be called

[echo tapir]

seems like a fine name to me xD

[glass mortar]

i dont think theres an official rule for this yet? Maybe itll be in the advanced section?

but iirc on beta they were playing around with sending a roll early before kir expires if ur loaded dice would expire

[sly bone]

ill have a gander, ty for pointing me in the right direction atleast

[keen belfry]

how about awangs cp addon

[echo tapir]

does it do energy too?

[ripe ibex]

i think

you might want to change the name of that addon

[inland meteor]

wangbar

[glass mortar]

maybe @gaunt phoenix can weigh in more on that particular rotational question

[glass mortar]

.

[keen belfry]

yes

[keen belfry]

wangbar

[echo tapir]

lol

do you plan to get it uploaded to curseforge?

[keen belfry]

yeah

i have never made an addon before so im looking thru stuff

[echo tapir]

gotcha no worries

[keen belfry]

you dont like awangs cp generation addon

[echo tapir]

do you have like a github for it atm ?

[keen belfry]

no but i shall post that too

[mighty pivot]

sensei has a fixed update rate of 10ms with "fast updates" enabled, and 100ms with slow updates. So if you are using events it should be faster (unless the unit_power events are delayed, but I doubt that would be by much). But showing 1 frame doesn't say much. There is a difference between 500ms and 10ms of delay

[keen belfry]

its very noticable with the naked eye