each rtb is a new roll
#outlaw
frail veldt
so with LD you can never roll a 1 but your odds arent related to what your current roll leve is
nocturne saddle
oh ok - so after the 3 roll, the new RTB could be any of the 4, but LD just basically ensures at minimum you won't roll 1
frail veldt
exactly yeah
nocturne saddle
got it thanks Mewo
frail veldt
you would never want to roll over a 3 roll though
even if you have LD up
youd want to let that 3 roll run out before rolling again
cuz you have a chance to go down from 3 to 2 if you were to roll early
nocturne saddle
ooooo
makes sense
is the general rule to just let your rolls run out except for a 1 roll?
fathom bramble
yeah unless we find some extra optimizations
for now since loaded dice lasts so long you can always hold it for next roll if you already have a 2 anyway
frail veldt
big slash
I have to change my blade rush hotkey
it used to be alt + c
but thats too awk for how often we press it lol
fathom bramble
I have it where GS use to be but it feels weird
frail veldt
LOL same
fathom bramble
like I keep expecting it to have no gcd
plain fox
fathom bramble
blade rush usage doesn't care how many combo points you have since it neither consumes nor generates them
on pre-patch and before you get tier in midnight it should be used when you are not near full energy
on CD after we get tier in midnight
nocturne saddle
Welcome to the champions club
feels good
wintry solar
I've had a blank spot where blade rush usually goes
Now it's back and it feels great to press that bind again
cinder relic
I do love blade rush being good again
Such a solid button
U just press it, it does damage, it's free, it's energy
wintry solar
It's got everything you need
wintry solar
Such a solid button
I'm actually glad br doesn't cost CP
cinder relic
Same
Glad it's just a button
I think if er wasn't so.... Wrongly hated by noobs this outlaw would be perfect
lucid stirrup
"having different opinion than me means you are automatically a noob"
lime lake
real
smoky lotus
my only issue with br is the charge, purely because blizz is so inconsistent with hitboxes.
lucid stirrup
the one thing I miss about it is blowing up people in pvp
frail veldt
outlaw has never blown people up in pvp
lucid stirrup
it had some fine dmg
if you picked the thing where it did bonus dmg, it was pretty good
far from oneshot but nice
lucid stirrup
indeed
cinder relic
"having different opinion than me means you are automatically a noob"
Exaaactly
fathom bramble
as good as it could be for law subs ER hit waaay harder
and then they nerfed it for all 3 rogue specs thanks to sub abusing it 👌
cinder relic
Sub has hella generator buff talents
fathom bramble
in pvp*
cinder relic
Ud go all generator buff talents pop everything, er with the er damage conduit
frail veldt
that was very silly yeah
wintry solar
Pass
fathom bramble
imagine bte stun with the new DR rules
lucid stirrup
you could keep interrupting the target
cinder relic
Bte stun with 8 second kidney 
lucid stirrup
fathom bramble
DR for npcs prior to midnight is the same as players
wintry solar
Oof
fathom bramble
midnight is changing it to have a minimum stun length
so you always get some amount of cc
upper surge
true
lime lake
it takes a lot more than a shitty spec to stop outlaw players
otherwise they wouldnt be here
tropic dove
Outlaw is a lifestyle....other specs are for the lazy.
deft verge
so we always mash bte over killing spree ? like if bte keeps resetting u just keep hitting it over coup or ks?
frail veldt
yeah bte is our highest prio finisher
wintry solar
You're the highest prio finisher
frail veldt
Damn right
dull geyser
anyone else havinvg FPS issues on outlaw in midnight?
lunar cove
how do i track which dice buffs i am getting?
craggy barn
different buffs for diff stages
er diff icons
if u track rtb in cooldown manager it just switches to the appropriate icon
odd sleet
And we only refill early if it’s one of a kind?
craggy barn
ye reroll for stage2+
waxen scarab
how is thistle tee consumed automatically? do we macro it or what
wintry solar
We you get low it auto procs
waxen scarab
We you get low it auto procs
like a passive?
wintry solar
Yeah
lime cloud
Does Outlaw seriously only get one cheap shot per 12 seconds, do they not have anything like Subtlety has, where an example is when they dance they get an extra? This feels kinda underwhelming.
tropic zephyr
What do you guys use as WA replacement for things like a CP bar?
fervent scroll
anyone else havinvg FPS issues on outlaw in midnight?
On beta sometimes yes, happens for me on trickster when mass aoe nimble flurry goes brrr also on sub
tender wedge
What do you guys use as WA replacement for things like a CP bar?
Sensei’s class resource bars
tropic zephyr
thanks, i'll check that out, i'm trying to fuck around with TweaksUI rn but idk if it's worth investing time into this
tender wedge
I’m of the strong opinion that most of these new fly-by-night addons will be gone or go unsupported before too long so
I’m trying to keep things simple
tropic zephyr
yeah i'm thinking the same, it's probably not worth trying to adopt things so early
tender wedge
Find something that does what you need simply, spend enough time to make it work, see what else pops up in the next month or so
tropic zephyr
Right now if I want a WA like CD icon that shows both the CD and the duration left of the buff, what's my best option?
quaint sable
cd manager does that.
but my UI is mainly arcui stuff as it allows some customization
mainly that I can seperate stuff into more than just 2 distinct groups
tropic zephyr
For instance, how would you make the CDM show BF CD and also show it's duration when it's active?
cause rn it just show the CD and if I want to know the duration left when active I have to look at the buff bars
quaint sable
ik it does that for adr by default, u can right click on stuff in the adv cdm to change settings for specific icons
tropic zephyr
like this?
it still is not on the same icon
ok I just realized
it's literally BF that's like buged
or something
cause AR works like I want it to: it shows CD and shows active timer on the same icon
tame dagger
what weapon enchants are we running in prepatch?
lime cloud
Does Outlaw seriously only get one cheap shot per 12 seconds, do they not have a...
After looking through the tree - it seems like you just have one cheap shot every 12 seconds (Ofc having to use it from stealth as well or in subterfuge), not even using vanish will grant you one. Holy thats bad.
midnight ridge
gaunt phoenix
Good times
shadow trellis
potent ore
dear lord maybe i finally can play the game
crude flower
Wanted to push a key on an alt, run into a healer on FG that doesn't know you need to dispell on boss 2
twin steeple
it's literally BF that's like buged
I think that's intentional. You can't CDR AR to a point where it's off cooldown while the buff is still active, but you can do that to BF. So you wouldn't know if you can recast BF until it dtops, if it was displayed like AR.
You need to know when BF comes off cooldown in m+ coz it's a high prio builder
vivid vessel
it's literally BF that's like buged
I mean if bf was the same way you would literally not be able to see the cd ever
That would be qhute bad
I do think it should be a setting this
Like I do not want to see ADR buff on top of ADR cd
But oh well
Too much to ask for the UI team
loud garden
Like I do not want to see ADR buff on top of ADR cd
also super annoying for havoc
U cant see the cd of meta after using eye beam
..
gaunt phoenix
lmao
vivid vessel
Ye
crude flower
Wanted to push a key on an alt, run into a healer on FG that doesn't know you ne...
Update
2 healers in a row
crude flower
It's a massive circle
vivid vessel
how do you know you can dispell it tho
crude flower
Cause it says in the adventure guid + people are asking
crude flower
True, but at least watch a video or know the bare minimum if your gonna heal smth, even if it's a low key apparently
vivid vessel
what
gaunt phoenix
the last titan alpha
gaunt phoenix
outlaw still exists
copper radish
You get alpha yet?
At this rate he skipping midnight and going right to last titan
radiant wyvern
outlaw charter neighborhood ?
covert kestrel
outlaw charter neighborhood ?
Outlaws don't engage in home owner associations
gaunt phoenix
the tab target kick macro is still amazing lol
mighty pivot
outlaw still exists <:HOLY:1250893440183570533>
it does but they removed PS and now your SS changes to PS when opp procs 
also BF is nerfed to 8%
gaunt phoenix
nice
formal knot
fluid iron
least played?
least brought to raid?
wintry solar
and still top charts
vivid vessel
least played?
least brought to raid?
most non hit targets in aoe
fluid iron
lol
copper radish
most non hit targets in aoe
Uncapped flurry when
copper radish
Uncapped and 15% would u take it
red zinc
vivid vessel
Uncapped and 15% would u take it
thats prolly less damage than healer at that pooint
old gull
crude flower
Btw, does anyone know how to get a role removed
Don't want the stinky deathstalkers mark
twin steeple
Like I do not want to see ADR buff on top of ADR cd
ArcUI can hide it AFAIK
twin steeple
Uncapped flurry when
Why can't do it like sqrt8 or smth.... Would be a heaven
rapid tiger
sooo, do we still have old tier set or why am I proccing 2 escalating blades sometimes
untold wadi
Btw, does anyone know how to get a role removed
Don't want the stinky deathstalk...
where u kick channels
pick
crude flower
Deathstalker isn't higlighted
So idk,
I've tried picking it and unpicking it but it doens't do anything
rapid tiger
sooo, do we still have old tier set or why am I proccing 2 escalating blades som...
nvm, can't read
crimson spade
any good addon to replace SUF atm ?
untold wadi
now kir
untold wadi
So idk,
I've tried picking it and unpicking it but it doens't do anything
shouldn't i just tried it
twin steeple
So idk,
I've tried picking it and unpicking it but it doens't do anything
Channels and roles?
crude flower
When i slelect deathstalker, it just gives me deathstalker for sub, unselecting it removes DS sub but not DS assa
untold wadi
Channels and roles?
only the essentials i see
teal garnet
ornate heathBOT
Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.
fathom holly
upper hawk
so i just dusted off my rogue. there's no way the s2 tier set still wroks right? and +40 % rtb bonus? it was affecting prob a diff spell id?
covert kestrel
any good addon to replace SUF atm ?
Unhalted Unit Frames but doesn't change party or raid
covert kestrel
so i just dusted off my rogue. there's no way the s2 tier set still wroks right?...
Idk about s2 for law but s2 for enha is still working and is actually good lol
twin steeple
Unhalted Unit Frames but doesn't change party or raid
- play dps
- don't care about the party/raid frames
- success
faint pendant
past fern
Friendly fire enabled only on outlaws
copper radish
yk whats funny? they pruned hekili... and now MaxDPS still making the rotation addon based on simc... LOL
vivid vessel
what
copper radish
thought those types of addons were supposed to not exist now lol
vivid vessel
they dont
its not possible to make an accurate rotation helper rn
some specs can do it weirly but
you cant see procs etc so
copper radish
thought it was funny seeing they updated it... trying to see if any1 made any new damage meter reskins cause details all bugged up lol
vivid vessel
thought it was funny seeing they updated it... trying to see if any1 made any ne...
i mean unless theyu are using exploits
its not possible
for most specs
to have an actual rotation helper
that is accurate
some simpler specs without procs can work sometimes
but its very limited
frail veldt
Yo @vivid vessel I heard some addons are intentionally blocking each other from working
have you heard of this?
vivid vessel
idk i think it was just a random addon doing that
brave lagoon
everyone's scrambling to get their UI working with the new blizz pile of dogshit that I wouldn't be surprised at all if some addon devs accidentally break someone else's if you use both at the same time
no need to jump to malicious conclusions imo
copper radish
Yo <@352916297262301194> I heard some addons are intentionally blocking each oth...
one of thems still blocking my dmg meter from edit mode lol
copper radish
i mean unless theyu are using exploits
so I DL'd it. seems like its pretty accurate idk what they are doing lol
maybe going off blizz helper?
vivid vessel
idk send a link
mighty pivot
Yo <@352916297262301194> I heard some addons are intentionally blocking each oth...
it has happened in the past (I know BW had to block something of quazii a long time ago because he was breaking something). Maybe it happens again now, given how many addons try to interact with blizzard's cdm
copper radish
idk send a link
this thing has the 5 cp dispatch finisher rule LOL
vivid vessel
i mean cps are not secret
so thats one of the few things you can do
well
the addon isnt doing anything
its just the blizzard thing prolly
crude flower
Encountered a bug where i couldn't generate combopoints whatsoever, happened when 2nd boss of HoA was pulled
Relogging fixed it at least
thick vigil
old meteor
Been enjoying Outlaw since the DF rework, perhaps I'm a minority judging from the crying on reddit etc
but half the apm and waiting for energy regen? no thanks
keen belfry
i dont either, but i really like the individual groups
vivid vessel
i forgot what the reason was tho
keen belfry
i dont remember why but there was a reason
its edit mode is quite bnad
jolly geyser
someone wanna see a interesting RIO page?
old meteor
this is the real design philosophy behind midnight
jolly geyser
cant post it here
copper radish
i dont like arcui
I deleted nephUI the other day since he flipped out. Went to Arc. Spent an hour on customizing it now I actually like it lol
So many settings in the addon it’s confusing lol
frail veldt
I just want weak auras type interface maaaaaaan
vivid vessel
i dont get why all these addons try to reskin the cooldown manager
its all very buggy
and you litteraly do not need to touch at the cooldown manager at all
brave lagoon
I don't want a reskin, I just want control on where the icons go
blizz just throws all the icons in a row/column and tells you here you go fam enjoy
what's that? custom spacing? I'm afraid I can't do that
crude flower
What's the best thing to sim for outlaw AoE?
Patch 5 or dslice
vivid vessel
slice
crude flower
Aight, cheers Zac <3
gaunt phoenix
i forgot what the reason was tho
I forgor💀
vivid vessel
no i remember
it doesnt do cps
and for some reason it aksed me to keep buffs shown at all time
idk why
also the UI is litteral dogshit
10x more complicated that it needs to be
like its just unusable no?
just cause of that alone
and again its cause all these addons absolutely want to reskin the cdm
instead of just doing things themselves which i do not understand
covert kestrel
like its just unusable no?
You can hide buffs when they're not active super ez
In arc
vivid vessel
but the addon doesnt want me to
covert kestrel
It has its own settings but you need to enable in cdm so it can hide it
mighty pivot
like its just unusable no?
no, you can still set alpha to 0 when a buff is inactive which is the same for the end user
copper radish
Oh wow nephui was discontinued
yeah he posted up some cry baby stuff about quazi charging for addons lol
then i saw that quazi also quit today too
over elv ui
"i was here first" like okay bro
vivid vessel
thats not at all what his posts is about tho
vivid vessel
sometimes i do wonder if people on the internet can read
litteraly what both nephguy and elvui guy said
is that quazi stole code
1:1
and on top of that he sells his addons
so
stealing code to then sell stolen code is kinda
you know
you can do either one
but both at the same time
it becomes too much
vivid vessel
no, you can still set alpha to 0 when a buff is inactive which is the same for t...
ok sure true i just found that
but you cant do cps
noob addon no ?
mighty pivot
I think that's been on the "coming soon" part for a while but I don't care that much. I just use a slightly customised sensei for that
mighty pivot
that's blizzard's fault for making things so tricky with cdm
vivid vessel
no
why do addons not just
do their own
instead of wanting to reskin
that shit ass bro
mighty pivot
do what on their own?
vivid vessel
own cds trackers
or buffs trackers
you can
i mean some of them already do it
as like
additional grps
mighty pivot
because a lot of the info is secret
vivid vessel
i think its stupid to even try to reskin the cdm
ye thats irrelevant that its secret
mighty pivot
while for CDM fewer things are secret
pastel sierra
additional groups and centered groups is the only reason i have an addon for cooldown manager
vivid vessel
what does the cdm do
frank finch
yeah change of plans zac nephui dead quazi dead
proven ocean
<:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
are these bots wtf is going on
frank finch
i need u do rush ur ui
vivid vessel
that you cant do with addons
frank finch
asap
vivid vessel
only thing i can think of is having the buff on top of the cd, but even that you could do with an overlay
so
mighty pivot
you can get the spell ID of the associated spell and skin it or set hooks on events
covert kestrel
i mean its kinda its own but you enable the buffs in the cdm and then do everything else in arcui
mighty pivot
no because you also get better aura filtering through cdm
vivid vessel
wdym
mighty pivot
for "normal" buffs/debuffs you can only use blizzard's predetermined filters
covert kestrel
identical in what way tho, like yeah the arcui settings are badly designed and incomplete but like most of the appearance and grouping is the same as wa
vivid vessel
for "normal" buffs/debuffs you can only use blizzard's predetermined filters
i dont get what that has to do with cdm
vivid vessel
i can recreate a buff rn if i want to cant I
i know you can for cds and im practically 100% sure you can for buffs aswell
sure the only thing there isnt is that dogshit
vivid vessel
tho actually idk if thats not possible
cuase its only on certain events
and these events might not even be fully secret no
mighty pivot
i can recreate a buff rn if i want to cant I
if you mean for a specific spell id, I don't think you can do as much as you can if it's a buff tracked on cdm. Right now any aura data other than the aura instance id (which is not useful) are secret. You can probably show it as is but not do conditional glows etc
vivid vessel
but
the cdm cant do shit either no ?
i mean the cdm cant do anything either so who cares
sure tho on a cd
there is alerts
i didnt really tyhink about alerts
cause i never used that tyupe of things
with weak auras
mighty pivot
depends. You can have conditional glow/desaturation when a buff is active/inactive. You can no longer decide to do that based on X stacks though
mighty pivot
i mean the cdm cant do anything either so who cares
it can on beta. Live is older version
torn lichen
if you mean for a specific spell id, I don't think you can do as much as you can...
Oddly enough Elvui has sorted a way to track the VE racial buff but I can’t sort out a way in any other addon
vivid vessel
depends. You can have conditional glow/desaturation when a buff is active/inacti...
hm
can you not
torn lichen
no idea what or where they’re pulling it from
vivid vessel
with color curves things
desaturate mabe
with a boolean
maybe not
i guess
oh well
surely thats just an oversight tho
you can do an entire button rn
that track cd charges etc
im sure they will give the option to desaturate
or glow etc
with secrets still
lime lake
Oddly enough Elvui has sorted a way to track the VE racial buff but I can’t sort...
better cooldown manager can track it
it just gets added to a group is all
torn lichen
Hmm
mighty pivot
which VE racial? the teleport or the passive proc?
lime lake
oh true
torn lichen
The proc
vivid vessel
becasue
you can
its jsut all secrets so you can display it
and htats it
you wont be able to actually know its on or not in the code
you will display it
thats it
which is what im discussing rn
why addons arent just doing that instead of the shit cd manager reskings
tho i see some limitations that i didnt think abotu
since you cant do alerts like ytou can in teh cdm
altough i dont care about that
torn lichen
It knows if the buff is on and displays it
vivid vessel
but you cant desaturate on cd tho
vivid vessel
It knows if the buff is on and displays it
yes
but it doesnt know
^^
like
well idk how to explain all of that
whatever
proven ocean
yes
solemn urchin
is slice and dice just not used for outlaw in st
gaunt phoenix
is slice and dice just not used for outlaw in st
It's automatically casted by Dispatch
gaunt phoenix
?!
gaunt phoenix
I vaguely remember it
vivid vessel
there is no wow version
that is on an older version anymore
so i think we are fucked
gaunt phoenix
Classic
vivid vessel
Classic<:HOLY:1250893440183570533>
i tried but
its too old
there is no personal reousrce thing
which i think is what is needed
gaunt phoenix
I can't say I noticed it until someone brought it up
vivid vessel
I mean bro
gaunt phoenix
You just mean SS CPs are delayed until the actual second hit happens?
vivid vessel
this is rn on beta
and this was how it was before like 1month ago on beta
and now coincidentally i cannot find the option
that i remember having to change
when i went on beta
to not have delayed cp
exotic gale
i know default CP are a bit delayed also, there was an option on some addons to have them instant
maybe its that?
rustic ice
Guys, is dagger in offhand back on the menu?
vivid vessel
it wasnt an addon tho
it was default on the resource manager im almost certain of it
vivid vessel
this is ugly as shit awang
frank finch
cani get that profile?
fathom bramble
it wasnt an addon tho
maybe it's a cvar we can still change if you can somehow find it
keen belfry
i just need d1 textures idk how to do it
vivid vessel
maybe it's a cvar we can still change if you can somehow find it
i cant
fathom bramble
if addons are also copying whatever behavior it is for their animation then you must be able to
in theory
keen belfry
i just need d1 textures idk how to do it
@vivid vessel
keen belfry
u think i know how to do that
mighty pivot
the removed cvars can be found here: https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Patch_12.0.0/API_changes I don't see anything relevant to what you are explaining though
vivid vessel
ye i cant find it either
craggy barn
isnt it just changing the version
mighty pivot
I also don't remember any cvar like that tbh. Sounds like delulu to me
vivid vessel
bro its not
mighty pivot
and your gifs compare outdoor world with instanced which isn't a fair comparison
vivid vessel
what
no its fair
it wasnt like that
before
i mean
considering
that im pretty sure it was an option of the personal resource thingy
and they legit nuked it
mighty pivot
that thing was nuked way earlier in beta no?
vivid vessel
i dont think so
i remember logging in on beta
and having to change a setting like that
im legit certain it was on the personal rsource thing
pastel sierra
they removed a lot of settings from the personal resource display yeah
mighty pivot
I don't see how an option about the personal resource thing would affect the delay anyway. This is just about how quickly the unit_power events arrive. If that changed it's 100% serverside. If the delay really has changed, my only suspicion is all the changes they made to make combo point gains more clear
vivid vessel
lie
fathom bramble
it's not the serverside combo point events being delayed
both clips clearly have SS delayed combo points and the fan the hammer delayed combo points
there is just the unnecessary animation being tacked on
covert kestrel
idk if i want spacing or not kinda go back and forth
keen belfry
i like a little for the man blocks
tender breach
For trickster even dispatch finishes at 6+???
gaunt phoenix
ye
proven ocean
https://tenor.com/view/stellarnushu-anuakhil-gif-14140531884034404697
this cat is me after eating 3 double cheese burgers, 2 large fries and 20 pieces of chicken nuggets 2 hours after lunch
mighty pivot
lie
it's truth! With 12.0 the cp gain happens exactly the moment the extra SS hit strikes. I can't tell if that was the case (or faster) before because the second hit's cp gain was not logged
vivid vessel
continue lying bud
proven ocean
mighty pivot
your own log proves my point 
gaunt phoenix
oh wow, the SS second hit CPs were not logged since... the beginning of time
proven ocean
oh wow, the SS second hit CPs were not logged since... the beginning of time
gaunt phoenix
well if you say it like that
proven ocean
@hollow temple thoughts on my new name?
vivid vessel
i feel like if i go read the values of the cps
the secret value thing
that addons use
proven ocean
if anyone wants to know the lore behind my name
dm me
cant post it here i think the msg is too fked up
proven ocean
oh
gaunt phoenix
wtf
vivid vessel
<t:1769284331:R>
proven ocean
<t:1769284362:R>
gaunt phoenix
<t:1769284337:R>
proven ocean
wtf
mighty pivot
we have the technology
gaunt phoenix
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proven ocean
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mighty pivot
oh wow, the SS second hit CPs were not logged since... the beginning of time
well they are logged now. The only issue is that it's harder to tell if the timing of their arrival has changed
gaunt phoenix
well they are logged now. The only issue is that it's harder to tell if the timi...
yeah i mean it's funny they fixed that after all this time
vivid vessel
no
mighty pivot
better late than never
proven ocean
ah
vivid vessel
uninstal live noobv
proven ocean
vivid vessel
proven ocean
well im hiding it because of security purposes
vivid vessel
what
proven ocean
idk incase it can be used for account recovery
vivid vessel
we all know it says EU 1 noob
vivid vessel
WOW1 (EU)
gaunt phoenix
i have a pistachio i cannot open'
proven ocean
want a good solve solo
gaunt phoenix
ye
proven ocean
just surprise it and eat the shell
gaunt phoenix
hm
proven ocean
im sure the pistachio wont see that one coming
brisk spear
i have a pistachio i cannot open'
take one half of an opened one and put it in the tiny opening
if there is no opening
use hammer
mighty pivot
yeah i mean it's funny they fixed that after all this time
I do think the timing has changed. It looks like previously if your SS did double strike you would get them all instantly (in 11.x). Now the second gain is attached to the second hit
vivid vessel
i have a pistachio i cannot open'
eat the cock
mighty pivot
i have a pistachio i cannot open'
use teeth. noob
gaunt phoenix
hammer acquired
proven ocean
use teeth. noob
i hate using my teeth to break or cut things
u never know ur teeth can break
real btw incase u never touch grass
thats why its good to have healthy teeth
not just "white" teeth
gaunt phoenix
I do think the timing has changed. It looks like previously if your SS did doubl...
i9m surprised i didnt notice it?
vivid vessel
i9m surprised i didnt notice it?
you played ?
gaunt phoenix
ye
fathom bramble
the timing has changed
SS combo points from the 2nd hit are synced with the hit itself
like original outlaw release(fixed after 2 months)
vivid vessel
nice
can we get a real dev
or
do we have to
get the
intern
that is clueless
about everything
proven ocean
buying outlaw dev - 500 gp
mighty pivot
yeah @wintry solar fix your shit. you are ruining outlaw
proven ocean
no more omgomg my class sucks
fathom bramble
im confused there
both the clips you showed earlier have this delay though so I assumed your problem was the animation
mighty pivot
ye the animation misleads
fathom bramble
sensei doesn't have the animation for me on live though so idk what is going on
jolly geyser
Are we suppose to applaud that you uninstalled a game or what zeross?
mighty pivot
sensei did have an animation enabled by default for me. but it can be disabled
wintry solar
yeah <@530563212093947914> fix your shit. you are ruining outlaw
We'd have energy and dreadblades
We've been over this
mighty pivot
just that?
fathom bramble
CrackBlades: Duration: 6 seconds Cooldown:120 seconds, 2 charges. Your finishers have a 35% chance to refund all combo points spent and your combo point generating abilities always fill your combo points.
wintry solar
just that?
I just woke up and that's all I cam think of atm
Buff BF
That's about it
Idk
jolly geyser
buff the US storm
wintry solar
No let's not
mighty pivot
That's about it
grapple speed 
jolly geyser
make vial grant dmg reduction
wintry solar
Unusable utility nodes are a bigger problem than grapple speed
mighty pivot
make vial grant dmg reduction
or damage stagger
mighty pivot
Unusable utility nodes are a bigger problem than grapple speed
you get 1 utility point by virtue of deadly pursuit being dogshit
fathom bramble
Instead of healing immediately vial now grants an absorb shield for 25% of your life. This absorb will slowly convert to healing over 12 seconds or until the absorb is fully consumed.
jolly geyser
ye
rum shield, jack sparrow had that in potc. might have just been luck but eh
I watched the first 3 couple days ago,fresh in my mind
fathom bramble
Rum Shield. Damage taken while crimson vial is active is instead removed from the remaining heal, but Crimson Vial takes twice as long to restore health.
this is a better wording of the same thing ^
jolly geyser
gaunt phoenix
has anyone figured out a poison reminder
jolly geyser
cinder relic
Set a 55 minute timer on Ur phone when u apply iy
fathom bramble
apply it after every feast
wintry solar
you get 1 utility point by virtue of deadly pursuit being dogshit
Okay well I'm not bringing fast grapple back until I personally have had a negative experience with slow grapple
jolly geyser
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/easyreminders
I just saw this in wow general here
gaunt phoenix
the one button thing will show it as first priority lol
fathom bramble
perfect for sin
jolly geyser
Idk,never had a problem forgetting poisons
gaunt phoenix
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/easyreminders
144 downloads, fresh off the oven
mighty pivot
the one button thing will show it as first priority lol
both poisons or just instant?
gaunt phoenix
both
crude flower
Checked smth and probably gonna swap deadly pursuit for combat stamina
Sim says that pursuit is a 4 dps increase
gaunt phoenix
well yeah, the sim doesnt have downtime
gaunt phoenix
but it's true the talent is probably not doing a whole lot
mighty pivot
pursuit is pretty bad even with downtime
crude flower
Yea, and the extra stam is nice
mighty pivot
it very often procs for a splitsecond because 4s is too tight of a timer, and then you need to spend 15cp again to be able to activate it if there is actual downtime
potent ore
As of 15 hours ago, :fatebound: Fatebound is totally bugfixed on both pre-patch and beta. so which one is better for pre patch?
crude flower
Deathstalker
crude flower
Ngl i like the coup animation so im happy trickster is ahead
But yeye, might run combat stam to see if i feel the deadly pursuit loss or see it impact it that much
Idk i just like being a slight bit tankier
gaunt phoenix
it very often procs for a splitsecond because 4s is too tight of a timer, and th...
last i checked, if you spent combo points during the 4s timer, the 4s timer could continously refresh itself until you stepped away
quartz patio
Does anyone have a import for the CDM for Outlaw? The one from WoWHead isn't working for me.
unkempt dew
Is the beta tuning form the 21th also live on pre patch now? The buffs and stuff or is it still beta only?
gaunt phoenix
That's beta only
unkempt dew
Maybe a dumb question but is it possible that they will come to pre patch or is this it until midnight?
cinder relic
Does anyone have a import for the CDM for Outlaw? The one from WoWHead isn't wor...
I knew I forgot something
I can update it tomorrow afternoon
gaunt phoenix
probably not, it was very surprising prepatch got updated at all
unkempt dew
Thanks Solo 
jolly geyser
probably not, it was very surprising prepatch got updated at all
sign of things to come in midnight
gaunt phoenix
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/easyreminders
ty, it does work, though you cant choose numbing and atrophic interchangeably
jolly geyser
ty, it does work, though you cant choose numbing and atrophic interchangeably
Royal linked it
mighty pivot
look at solo already aching for the competitive advantage
gaunt phoenix
vivid vessel
weak aura died so you could have 50 small shitter addon
each in its own category also
cause no one can agree
on categories
mighty pivot
or some are under the "User Interface" category 
like why bother putting it in a category in that case
vivid vessel
like
unalthed
i like his addons
or addon
dont get me wrong
but bro
no shot
you created your own category
the unalthed category
lime lake
mighty pivot
zac's mad he doesn't have his own addon to make another category
desert tendon
zac can you make a guide video please tyvm
lime lake
wee
sullen walrus
on beta aswell?
gaunt phoenix
on beta fatebound is a bit ahead and also feels better energy wise
but trickster should still be within tuning range
untold wadi
only real zac is @pastel pendant spitting facts
mighty pivot
they are the same person...
gaunt phoenix
stats
mighty pivot
dslice?
gaunt phoenix
yea
mighty pivot
mastery will plummet in st
mighty pivot
mods, get him!
mighty pivot
it will be a 4th spec. the wombat rogue
craggy barn
w
cinder relic
I doubt they'd remove specs in regards to that new spec poll
gaunt phoenix
mighty pivot
not entirely disastrous for mastery tbh
gaunt phoenix
what a world to have 32% haste and it's still good
craggy barn
I doubt they'd remove specs in regards to that new spec poll
prob not but god the amount of dev work they put themselves with adding more specs is gonna be insane
mighty pivot
what a world to have 32% haste and it's still good
all you need is to be energy starved
fathom bramble
I wonder how much of it is just AAs scaling incredibly well with haste
for energy past 22%
because it does maintain meaningfull but not high value for a while past when I don't think you need it for energy anymore
based on beta sims
mighty pivot
more autos, more zero ins and poisons
limpid isle
guys is shadow runner bugged or something? or does the stats not show it while its active? i have 22% speed in and out of stealth 
limpid isle
yeah same
gaunt phoenix
oh maybe i should take it
mighty pivot
shadowrunner works for me, I don't think it ever showed in the character panel if that's where you are looking
limpid isle
even with hit and run its stuck at 22%
gaunt phoenix
my movespeed updates now
fathom bramble
isn't default character panel speed weird
gaunt phoenix
i lied to you
limpid isle
shadowrunner works for me, I don't think it ever showed in the character panel i...
ah maybe thats it then
fathom bramble
I know addons always showed it though
mighty pivot
I thought the panel was only the tertiary boost
low glade
been really enjoying survival ngl
covert kestrel
been really enjoying survival ngl
Don't tell weran
low glade
Don't tell weran
oh shit? is he a survival enjoyer?
gaunt phoenix
survival hater
low glade
i wonder why he hates it! it's honestly quite fun
fathom bramble
it looks like Dejacharacterstats is working now if people want a panel that functions @mighty pivot @limpid isle
limpid isle
thanks king
gaunt phoenix
yea i use deja
mighty pivot
it looks like Dejacharacterstats is working now if people want a panel that func...
I have a data broker for my speed, I don't need to see it there
fathom bramble
think of all the numbers you can have
how else will you know that all melee specs have a random 3% parry chance
gaunt phoenix
holy haste
mighty pivot
ryukage's apprentice
covert kestrel
it looks like Dejacharacterstats is working now if people want a panel that func...
Does that show ilvl on items, I miss that
low glade
think of all the numbers you can have
where are your expertise and hit caps?
gaunt phoenix
my ilvl doesnt show
frank finch
the quazi panel one was so ugly
fathom bramble
must be a setting somewhere
vivid vessel
get a weak aura to do it
limpid isle
huh so the blizzard panel stats round up cause with deja I actually have 29.75% haste. blizzard UI is lying to meh damn
mighty pivot
the quazi panel one was so ugly
quAI was correct, no need to edit your message 
vivid vessel
huh so the blizzard panel stats round up cause with deja I actually have 29.75% ...
you can get a weak aura to fix that dw
frank finch
lmao
low glade
get a weak aura to do it
now hold on now!
fathom bramble
there's a few settings to change how it looks actually
limpid isle
you can get a weak aura to fix that dw
ill get a weak aura to fix you
vivid vessel
there's a few settings to change how it looks actually
what
thsats not baselinme
no way
fathom bramble
dejacharacterstats
lime lake
Wtf
fathom bramble
my bad
limpid isle
lime lake
Competitive advantage
gaunt phoenix
using add*ns
vivid vessel
solo
jolly geyser
job addons job addons
vivid vessel
thoughts on how noob you are
craggy barn
imagine using a robot
fathom bramble
is there an addon that lets you fully customized combo points down to individual combo point colors?
gaunt phoenix
no u
fathom bramble
using sensei rn and it just doesn't quite cut it
vivid vessel
is there an addon that lets you fully customized combo points down to individual...
no but you could
its not secret
just get a weak aura to do it
covert kestrel
If I wanted a gosh darn clanker to play the game for me id wire up my furby to the keyboard
craggy barn
ez
fathom bramble
also why does cold blood make a noise everytime I get a crit
craggy barn
fun
covert kestrel
also why does cold blood make a noise everytime I get a crit
They knew rogues wanted better fx so they included that
fathom bramble
hearing cold blood noise 3 times from 1 ps is definitely something
idk if it's fun though
craggy barn
they should make bte only do damage when the tumble weed rolls over an enemy, for each enemy
limpid isle
also why does cold blood make a noise everytime I get a crit
because youre cold blooded 
gaunt phoenix
radiant wyvern
is there an addon that lets you fully customized combo points down to individual...
pride flag combo point bar
jolly geyser
oh ye flight
vivid vessel
na bro solo got it
covert kestrel
Solo the goat
low glade
https://tenor.com/view/sigma-gif-10119958626511826896
lmao what did you even search for this gif
jolly geyser
also zac im curious, are you gonna play still and complain here or play something else?
covert kestrel
lmao what did you even search for this gif
vivid vessel
deadlock is not my typoe of game
craggy barn
zac cant shoot but plays outlaw??
mighty pivot
zac hates everything, and guy loves everything to bring balance in the universe
cinder relic
nah play deadlock
jolly geyser
I like ow, I dont play comp. Comp is boring
cinder relic
wait new char??
6 new characters
covert kestrel
6 new characters
icefrog loves a content nuke
cinder relic
cinder relic
icefrog loves a content nuke
craggy barn
yooo
cinder relic
Game just has so much saucr
craggy barn
shit looks FIRE
copper radish
Outlaw feeling so smooth now that it’s slowed down a bit
cinder relic
frank finch
i need a list of aswome addons to add
covert kestrel
Rem looks like the goat
frank finch
who wants to do that
cinder relic
Rem looks like the goat
None of the characters are unlocked yet
Every win gives you a vote
And you vote for who's unlocked next
First hero unlock is tomorrow
gaunt phoenix
clawing at the sky cause i thought silver was a dude
cinder relic
https://tenor.com/view/get-these-twinks-off-my-screen-twinks-twink-cat-cute-gif-12002248159174325385
mighty pivot
twinks? where? 👀
cinder relic
Ppl are saying it's Victor's hand
pastel sierra
@frank finch look at enhanceQOL if u wanna drop like 3 to 4 addons
covert kestrel
And you vote for who's unlocked next
That's badass lol
craggy barn
one of my fav things guy, is watching all the shorts with character interactions
some fun lore and shit
cinder relic
That's badass lol
It's fun cuz it builds like, memes and stuff within the community who to vote for
cinder relic
some fun lore and shit
Yeah it's a valve game, they eat
craggy barn
they really do be eating with this game
jolly geyser
I got deadlock access, how is the game for a ow player?
craggy barn
different
desert tendon
different
craggy barn
not a huge transition, just add ur hero shooter knowledge to moba knowledge
and then add in ur movement tech knowledge
jolly geyser
you have to aim in deadlock
?
craggy barn
deadlock has a lot going on
desert tendon
listen ram
craggy barn
censi only plays mercy
desert tendon
i dont have a midnight channel anymore 😔
false
1200h of tracer in ranked
before brig release
and me uninstalling the game
sorry
craggy barn
sounds like im not wrong
desert tendon
meanwhile i went from 4300 sr to diamond
it was a fun time
that s why i uninstalled 
craggy barn
idk better than the mercys during moth meta getting GM
desert tendon
fun fact, my mate who s an otp mercy was t500
then they did the bullshit reworked
and she managed to drop out of t500
she was better at old mercy than perma rez mercy
desert tendon
yea that was really not her gameplay
but she had some crazy 5man rez clips
i remember when she was pocketting me as tracer, and we were mercy tracer in flanks
craggy barn
huge