outlaw

[fathom bramble]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[copper radish]

suck it up cupcake 12.0 is almost here

[unborn basin]

11.2.7 will be a distant memory in a month or so

[rancid token]

anyone know how good the combat assistant recommended abilites are for outlaw?

[past falcon]

how am i supposed to redo the exterior of my player house in these conditions 😔😔😔

[elder phoenix]

43 minutes LEFT BOYS

[fluid cobalt]

I know a lot of theorycrafting just focuses on Raid/M+ , but as a mostly casual, Outlaw changes seem to nerf it into the ground for open world & delve

Vanish changes + Restless blades not affecting it also reduces tmog speedruns

[haughty wigeon]

its not midnight tho

[ancient cobalt]

guys idk what to play for fun in prepatch

[covert kestrel]

World of warcraft would be my rec

[ancient cobalt]

alright i think ima do outlaw guys im convinced...

[limpid flower]

I can't even play outlaw, no sword in my pockets lol

Will be using some default prepatch event sword

[covert kestrel]

outlaw loot spec vault

[limpid flower]

true but my next vault is only 1 item

[covert kestrel]

believe in the heart of the cards

[limpid flower]

I guess I will roll the bones....crickets

[rotund depot]

na servers up

[keen belfry]

logging in as new outlaw...

[lime lake]

[keen belfry]

new ui banging

[gaunt phoenix]

[fathom bramble]

somethings not quite right with that ui

can't really put my finger on it

[keen belfry]

why is there an ilvl 17 whetstone

[copper radish]

why so many bars

[fathom bramble]

some kind of addon going haywire I assume

[lime lake]

bros still got the fortune cookies

[fathom bramble]

some of them are just repeats of other bars

[smoky lotus]

they were probably hidden bars / pages from a bar addon he no longer has

elvui has like 12 or something

[keen belfry]

solo

trickster aoe... no kir???....

[gaunt phoenix]

You'd have to remove dispatcher for it

which I mean, you can

Just see how trickster is with 31% haste

[fathom bramble]

someone check if our AAs still have a halflife

[keen belfry]

ok

what if cold blood works

[gaunt phoenix]

wtf my faq layout got stolen

Twice

[quaint sable]

a day or 2 agao I saw someone show a google docs that had a the working status of a bunch of popular addons is that a public resource?

[covert kestrel]

server UP

this character list is taking its sweet time

[fathom whale]

prepatch talents where

[elder phoenix]

no addons gang

LETS GO

[indigo token]

so

hows outlaw

[untold wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-15574091040572480755

[indigo token]

amazing idea to have the prepatch version have energy issues because no apex talents

masterful gambit

[chilly atlas]

they take outlaw into consideration on every decision

[worthy dove]

is outlaw talents for both cleave and m+ the same? just making sure

[low glade]

stoked to play the next must-have S tier class in keys

[lusty tartan]

new back to wow, is everyone just using blizzard ui?

[elder phoenix]

suggewst going sub

LOL

[indigo token]

im already a sub

[elder phoenix]

i might go assassination tbh

[covert kestrel]

holy energy drought batman

[copper radish]

auto attacks with haste going crazy

[agile quiver]

the faq mentions dropping cold blooded for supercharger because of bugs, anyone have a build with that?

[gaunt phoenix]

remove cold blood, remove featherfoot or some utility

[echo tapir]

trying to import foreverguys cd layout and it will not let me put a name and import it wtf xD

[gaunt phoenix]

rip

[echo tapir]

its acting like the code isnt right

[gaunt phoenix]

tends to happen with imports

[echo tapir]

yeah i think something is wrong with the one on wowhead cause i just made my own and i can reimport that one fine

guess ill just wait till it gets updated or make my own xD i wanted to be lazy

[chilly atlas]

now im clueless of how i want my ui, being able to import spec setups spoiled us

me at least

[indigo token]

almost like the issue ew complained about all beta and alpha is an issue

[bronze wadi]

my haste went from 18 to 31% after patch went live

[elder phoenix]

so whats the profile build

for m+ rn

is it updated in Wowhead?

[chilly atlas]

yeah

theres a prepatch section

[cinder relic]

welcome to the champions club

we have never been more back

[rich moon]

guys, where is the toggle to see the remaining cd on an ability in my action bars? Or do I have to turn on the cd manager?

[cinder relic]

It might be cuz it was made on beta or something

[limpid isle]

whose got the juicy UI imports

[echo tapir]

yeah its weird you cant have a bar for bladeflurry and also track it as a cooldown?

also rip servers

[elder phoenix]

im curious

any one of you dorks doing m+ yet as outlaw

or assasination or sub

will save me alot of time testing 😄

[cinder relic]

bruh

[cedar wyvern]

whats the best trinkets for outlaw now

[tight kernel]

Yo how do I disable the blizz castbar

[low glade]

i think there's a 1-800 number you can call

wait times are a little long atm, understandably

[pure folio]

if we are stage 2, do we still reroll??

[tight kernel]

no

[pure folio]

kk ty

[frail veldt]

did you pre-order the xpac?

[smoky lotus]

seen any absolutely broken classes yet?

[frail veldt]

is anyone elses grapple really slow now?

[nova marsh]

end it

put me in the grave now

[echo tapir]

lol blind still aoe ccs?

i thought they removed that

[frail veldt]

just removed it from the tooltip 🙂

[echo tapir]

sweet

they did change grapple i thought

i could have sworn i read somewhere about the retract rate or something

[low glade]

surely unintended?

isn't it officially just a single target CC

[frail veldt]

they also dont have adr gcd reduction on tooltip

[low glade]

on beta at least it is

[frail veldt]

so

nop

aoe in beta too afaik

[low glade]

no fucking way let me check again

[frail veldt]

the talent still does the same thing

its just missing from tooltip

[cinder relic]

DK

UDK seem v broken

[agile quiver]

Donkey Kong

[cinder relic]

But theres like no parses so who knows

Theres like 5 ppl clearing the raid rn

[low glade]

i heard it's supposed to crank in prepatch

but it's back to being more in line on beta

[low glade]

you're right!

[cinder relic]

I don't believe any spec that says stupid shit like this i can't lie

[low glade]

24 sec aoe cc kinda pog?

[cinder relic]

It might be true but i just dont believe it

[low glade]

i have this approach to many things

[shrewd charm]

Are we cranking?

[cinder relic]

Kill timers are like 2 minutes on mythic so probably not

[agile quiver]

!cdm

is there a command for cooldown manager presets?

[cinder relic]

Im still playing it on first reclear

[cinder relic]

Not yet but eventually for sure

[shrewd charm]

Surely someone is doing outlaw keys

[frail veldt]

what was the name of the resource addon to fix the default UI?

I forget

nvm found it(senseiclassresourcebar)

[grim spear]

wtf

[low glade]

sub OP confirmed?

[low glade]

link to log

i wanna see that mfs gear

[grim spear]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BjLYc6tTXxFJmRfr?fight=18&type=damage-done

[celest cobalt]

sorry just to be clear, best m+ build doesnt take ANY capstones? :/

[low glade]

thanks man i really appreciate this

[keen belfry]

energy is fine with 33#

%

[low glade]

yeah bro just stack 33% haste bro it's easy bro

[cinder relic]

It lowkey is easy

[low glade]

lowkey?

lowkirkenuinely?

wish I could recraft, but AH is still buggin

[keen belfry]

its easy just use oils

[gaunt phoenix]

killing spree

[low glade]

Smelling like I just cooked a brick at the Met Gala
Throwing up, real stuck, chicken with the scallops

[keen belfry]

7 bricks in the car seat like an infant

[frail veldt]

sick ui

[tight kernel]

Yeah I did and also dude yes this. wtf I thought I was lagging

it feels giga sluggish now

[limpid isle]

grapple got nerf bat

its comical

[frail veldt]

fun detected

[indigo token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413245732118593606/image.gif

ok so

finally playing outlaw

its fun

but

energy

insane problem

[wintry solar]

just ran a streets and didnt run out once

[indigo token]

i mean you're popo

the greatest outlaw rogue in history

[wintry solar]

I wouldnt go that far

[full dawn]

i hopped in this chat and thought you mistyped poop before i looked up one message....

[frail veldt]

popo=poop

[full dawn]

shrugs

[wintry solar]

my off hand mog isnt saving

[lime plank]

Anyone else Blizzards build in scrolling combat text not working?

[frail veldt]

like you arent getting any text at all?

[lime plank]

non at all on its checked in the settings

[frail veldt]

/console floatingCombatTextCombatDamage 1

/console floatingCombatTextCombatHealing 1

I think thats what you want

[lime plank]

I love you

[frail veldt]

yw

[dreamy holly]

is perfidious projector broken rn?

nvm it did the same amount of damage as cosmic hunt

[frail veldt]

anyone having trouble moving elements of the UI in edit mode?

esp cooldown manager stuff?

[buoyant stratus]

So did the fatebound melee bug end up on live?

[frail veldt]

yeah

[buoyant stratus]

W

[keen belfry]

funny

[gaunt phoenix]

/BBF

[keen belfry]

we are strong relative to content

inting a 19 eco dome and just timing it

[indigo token]

ts is lowkirkenuinely asscheecks

[keen belfry]

this is current UI

[indigo token]

wtf

[lime plank]

Damn looks nice

[indigo token]

gimme the details

i need that expiditiously

[lime plank]

Same lol

[keen belfry]

arc ui, masque, and unhaulted unit frames

[indigo token]

unhaulted

is that a word

[covert kestrel]

unhalted

[keen belfry]

is that the word

yeah it is

[indigo token]

no i mean is it a real word

[wintry solar]

yes its a real word

[lime plank]

Do you get imports with those addons?

[frail veldt]

have you found out how to mix cooldowns and buffs into the same bar?

or can you just not do that

[agile quiver]

I mourn the loss of LiteButtonAuras 😔

having buffs on the button that activates it was so good

[keen belfry]

wym

[rare rapids]

I assume there's no reason to track thistle tea at this point yea?

[frail veldt]

like in a bar I want the cooldown of bf next to the buff bladeflurry then after that the cooldown for bladerush etc

in one bar

[gaunt phoenix]

I threw it in utility just to see if im out

[frail veldt]

correct remove from bars

oh yeah you could track whether you have stacks lerft

[gaunt phoenix]

But you dont press it ye

[olive spire]

since we are still lvl 80 is it worth to unspec ravendholt mint to play fatebound?

[gaunt phoenix]

trickster is better in prepatch, but if you do go fatebound, you can untalent mint

my cold blood seems to be working

[keen belfry]

idk if mine is

[elder wigeon]

is coup just fucked on the cooldownmanager it doesn't update right

[frail veldt]

what happens when you spec kir

[gaunt phoenix]

nevermind it stopped

[frail veldt]

do you have to edit your ui every time you change talents rofl

[nova marsh]

how'd you get combo points/energy like that?

[frail veldt]

few addons that can do it

sensei class resource bar is one

[nova marsh]

ty

[hollow coyote]

Man I miss crack shot

[clever river]

this is what im fucking with rn pure bliz UI so far. I think i hate it though

[frail veldt]

hey as long as you like it

[clever river]

the health bar is so bad i didn't think itd be like this

[nova marsh]

sensei was a game changer

[limpid isle]

w/e works I guess

feels like hot dog water

[clever river]

yeah, if i can just get a better way of displaying CB and Health/Resources Im good I think for how simple things ahve gotten.

[frail veldt]

is sensei class resource bar bugged for other people?

I cant edi tit

[covert kestrel]

oh yeah i had that

[clever river]

damn

[covert kestrel]

i forget what i did to fix it

unhelpful but alas i am away from the comp

[upper surge]

the raid is a meme

lmao

[cold tide]

so is this like the easiest spec in the game now

[snow stratus]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tight kernel]

bro i deadass think its quicker to sprint than grappling hook now

[polar kelp]

Wtf is this personal resource display. Why is it 10x bigger then ever and the combo point positioning is fucked...and unchangeable

[nova marsh]

go edit mode

u can move the resources around/resize

[polar kelp]

I couldn't find a resize at all

[nova marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-not-great-not-terrible-its-okay-gif-24540363

[nova marsh]

you have to click the elements in edit mode and youll see the sliders and whatnot

[polar kelp]

Yea I know, but for personal resource display there's no sliders

[nova marsh]

yeah you gotta fuck that off and get sensei

prd is cursed af

[polar kelp]

Sensei? Ok cool thanks

[nova marsh]

yeah just search it in curseforge or whatever itll pop up and u can just make changes in edit mode

[hasty fable]

any "poison reminder" addon that works?

[frail veldt]

yeah I cant unless I disable like 4 other addons hahaha

so many addons are trying to leverage edit mode

[nova marsh]

LOL

[frail veldt]

whenever i want to edit any one addon

[nova marsh]

dude patch rocks

[frail veldt]

I have to turn all the others off

all of this is 100% worth it to delete uhuh the worst ability ever created right?

this expansion is gona ROCK

[copper radish]

When I have to change mogs it makes me disable platynator 😂

[nova marsh]

theres an update rn fwiw

[wintry solar]

Ya

[frail veldt]

thought my UI was great

then I touched a target dummy

and half my bars disappeared

and my game threw a million lua errors

and I couldnt press buttons and had to alt f4

I just want a functional addon that allows me to center justify my cooldown manager

is that so much to ask for?

[rare rapids]

Oooh how did you get the buffs like that under your energy? So many addons

[frail veldt]

I was using tweaks UI cooldown manager

but its buggy as hell

gona try arc ui now

[rare rapids]

Hmmm was thinking about arcui as well

was just using betterblizzframes but i really don't like how the key buffs look by (mostly) default

[copper radish]

Take the NephUI plunge

The way it adjusts the CDM and the built in sensei with it is great

[frail veldt]

I tried it didnt like it though

why did blizz make rtb buff and loaded dice buff both the RTB icon when buff isnt active?

[gaunt phoenix]

prolly dont need to track coup

[past falcon]

idk its somewhat passable, im hesitant to tweak any of it too much before seeing what else gets cooked up. arcui and uuf were helpful

[frail veldt]

how do you have so many different bars? is that with arcui?

[real badge]

Cp Track is arcui?

[past falcon]

the bars in the middle are twintop's resource bar, player and target frames are UUF, and then i moved all the groups around with arcui

[past falcon]

cp tracker was through twintop but i think sensei is the same thing

[copper radish]

Did u model that after Zac WA lol

[past falcon]

ya ive used like 75% of his ui set up for a while

[copper radish]

You should copyright the export codes and make him buy the setup 😂

[quartz patio]

Quite haard to track what the rol buff is with deafault uI

[keen belfry]

this is mine

[wicked kestrel]

Anyone playing trickster?

[keen belfry]

ye

[wicked kestrel]

You enjoying it more than fate? Maybe it’s just my haste/verse is kinda low

[frail veldt]

okay heres where im at

not awful

[past falcon]

yeeee

[cinder haven]

Anyone try the new jundies profile yet?

[wicked kestrel]

Can you share that with me ?

[frail veldt]

I literally dont know how

rofl

[wicked kestrel]

Heh. Let me figure it out and I’ll let you know if that’s okay?

[frail veldt]

sure haha

[keen belfry]

u need a lot of crit and then like 30% haste

[frail veldt]

lowkey

I feel I barely get 100% bladeflurry uptime

if I run low on energy

I will drop bladeflurry

in aoe

[keen belfry]

do u have da haste

[wicked kestrel]

Well fuck my stats are kinda awful then.

Lmao

[keen belfry]

go get some hate

[cinder haven]

Isn’t there enough hate in the world already?

[keen belfry]

yes tob

[wicked kestrel]

Open Edit Mode: Press Esc, then click Edit Mode.
Access Cooldown Manager: Check the Cooldown Manager box to make its elements movable and find the import/export options.
Export Code: Click the dropdown menu in the Edit Mode window (or within the Cooldown Manager settings submenu under Esc > Options > Gameplay Enhancements) and select Share or Copy to Clipboard to get your layout code.

[frail veldt]

they changed the class colors?!?!?!

what the fuck

[frail veldt]

well the problem is im not using cooldown manager to do this

[deep sequoia]

how do we do tricks macros now without my weakaura?

[frail veldt]

I have like 5 addons to get my UI like this

[deep sequoia]

i hate thiss

[wicked kestrel]

Nephui by chance?

[keen belfry]

zero in good talent with a lot of crit

[frail veldt]

I use a macro to write a macro

so I select someone then click this button and it writes their name into my tricks macro

[wicked kestrel]

Either way I can just do it Manually too.

[deep sequoia]

ur penis is so large and girthy

[frail veldt]

no im using arcui, sensei class resource bar, edit mode expanded, dominos

[deep sequoia]

can u dm me the text?

[frail veldt]

sure

[wicked kestrel]

Ohh I haven’t tried arcui yet

[frail veldt]

seems to be the best option ive tried so far

the settings are....a little confusing hahaha

is this all the info the damage meter gives?

can you see things like biggest hit or anything?

crits etc

[elder phoenix]

so aff locks are really op

[frail veldt]

Is there a way to track diminishing returns for pvp now?

[elder phoenix]

and unholy dks

[oblique trench]

fucking blizz ui is worse then expected

[frail veldt]

bahahahaha

[elder phoenix]

ngl loving the fact that im running only bug sack addon rn

[dusty pivot]

If you do end up finding out how to share this I would love the string 🙂

[frail veldt]

show ui

[silver venture]

i checked the recommended builds for beta in here and in wowhead, do we really dont wanna play killing spree at all for m+?

[frail veldt]

we do play KS as trickster

but as fatebound no

KS is pretty weak now so fatebound doesnt want it

and we are pretty short on talent points

[silver venture]

daaamn thats a shame i loved the visuals of this ability

how better is fatebound build than trickster

[frail veldt]

at max level in midnight its a good deal better

but right now it has a pretty severe bug

so the recommendation is to play trickster in pre patch

pins have more info

[gaunt phoenix]

in beta, fatebound and trickster are similar, but trickster just doesnt have energy, u cant get free 31% haste like prepatch

[silver venture]

aww man its not looking good at all damn

ty folks gonna try it out now see how both of em work so far

[gaunt phoenix]

it is just tuning that will change surely

[frail veldt]

one thing I gotta say, my game is running REALLY well hahahaha

[upbeat sequoia]

Are there any Cooldown Manager Packs?... 🙁

[elder phoenix]

the same

[midnight ridge]

what makes us want such an absurd amount of haste?

[obtuse schooner]

dwarf still better ? 🙂

[round spindle]

Is outlaw still considered high apm compared to other specs?

[frail veldt]

Wrong spec

[frail veldt]

We need a lot of energy

[silver venture]

yo am i trippin or u cant change the size of personal recource display

also its so annoying combo point are not coming out from the center but rather from left side

[gaunt phoenix]

Energy sucks it's a major bottleneck

[harsh forge]

If we're not running HO do we still ambush out of stealth?

[keen belfry]

rtb as a bar eh?

[gaunt phoenix]

You cant

I think BetterBlizzFrames will let move/resize it and center the cps

[midnight ridge]

Just use Nug Combo Bar, best addon ever

[gaunt phoenix]

No

You don't have to stealth at all, or you can cheap shot rando mobs

[harsh forge]

i mean like

in raid

but i guess it would only be one globalk

so it doesnt matter

[gaunt phoenix]

Ambush not worth & you start with full cps anyway

[harsh forge]

oh right

[placid marsh]

Hey, my dudes. I'm coming back now since quitting in DF. Currently lvl 70, do I just do TWW quests to level to 80?

[keen belfry]

how to make it less blocky

[gaunt phoenix]

Questing or dungeons

[midnight ridge]

dagger with tmog of sword does not invert the details xd

[unkempt dew]

I haven’t played yet. I’m a bit scared for the energy suckness

I don’t want to player another class or spec

[keen belfry]

its fine with enough haste

[harsh forge]

not gonna like guys. hearing the ace shotgun sound and having to press sinister strike two more times before pressing bte sucks

[frank finch]

be more afriad that trickster is ahea by alot atm

[winter cave]

With 30% haste the energy bar barely moves tbh from the little play I've done this morning

still need to see in a raid ST scenario though

[cobalt mist]

well im glad i got to play outlaw a bit before blizzard decided to make their game terrible for no reason

[tender breach]

is there an addon to show the rtb buffs in custom icons that i can move them whereever I want?

[daring yoke]

is it possible to hide icon or set alpha 0 when something on CD? might be via an addon?

[fathom whale]

Anyone have a cd manager string that works? the wowhead one wont let me make a name for it

[vivid vessel]

Haha nice UI bro

I cant

Noob

[vivid vessel]

No bro xdd

[fathom bramble]

might as well turn the damage meter off and just live log everything

[keen belfry]

its a work in progress, arcui needs masque support

[fathom bramble]

Arcui also seems to be unable to do combo points

[harsh forge]

ok i can set wc3 sound bites as alerts

they need to add more wc3 sounds

[fathom whale]

why cant i import strings for cd manager? doesnt let me enter a name lmao

[quaint mauve]

lmk when the ui is ready

i haven’t played yet

solely bc

i don’t wanna make anything

gonna need the mage one too awang

[quaint sable]

What are u using for ur unitframes?

[midnight ridge]

no energy problems, did they actually buff energy gains from haste or it was always like this?

[tender breach]

has anyone found a way to show the rtb buffs on the center of the screen and not with the other zilion icons on the top right?

[midnight ridge]

you have it on cd manager

[quaint sable]

Move rtb into either tracked bufffs opr tracked bars

[bleak storm]

same here

[fathom whale]

works on my warlock. am confused

[warm raven]

it's just a broken string

[raw gale]

Any idea how to fix it or just make our own?

[remote pecan]

yes i can track the cooldown of my passives

[fathom whale]

i cant be stuffed, ill just wait till one of the gamers posts theirs

[zealous plinth]

We still can’t Track DS can we?

[quaint sable]

What is DS in this case? Deeper Stratagem?

[zealous plinth]

Disorienting strikes

Trickster stuff

[quaint sable]

Its a hidden aura. It always was

the old wa guessed.

u cant do that anymore

[zealous plinth]

Yeah thought blizz might had used his Brain and made it trackable

[fathom whale]

any of you able to send me their completed cd manager string :)))) wowhead ones are broke

[nova sinew]

🚨 a wild sp4wn

[hallow hemlock]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but can we make our BF (and RTB) CDM buff icons show duration once pressed, or do we need to use the secondary bar/buff icon??

[fathom whale]

IS there a way to give jackpot a sound?

[quaint sable]

looks like thats a negative

[fathom whale]

god damit im gunna miss the brainrot i used to get from rolling 3 or more buffs

[mighty pivot]

hmmmmmm

[frank finch]

i need an addon that lets me but my utility auras where i want

[quaint sable]

I got smth I can work wiuth for now

[inner meadow]

does details still work?

or do you have some skin

or what is that

[quaint sable]

Just details

[inner meadow]

oh

thought it wouldn't work anymore

[quaint sable]

Nah it seems to be fine

[inner meadow]

🙏

please

[quaint sable]

I also have been trying plater but thats been throwing errors

Details seems fine

[inner meadow]

new meter is so buns

[haughty moat]

do you guys have roll the bones in your skill window? am i blind ?

[quaint sable]

wdym

[upbeat sequoia]

Anyone knows why the Cooldown Manager keeps shifting around when i change Specs?

[prime vessel]

It just reskins

All the features are gone

Iirc

[quaint sable]

ye it doesnt showmuch

[tender breach]

well my UI so far. Its goin to be clean but I have to go step by step

[winter cave]

question for raiding, what do you remove to take prep since i expect it might be a good pick for Noodle-King Saladbar and Dimmy

[haughty moat]

oh nice now i need a button more than before, good job blizz with the button bloat

[winter cave]

missed the small line 🫥

[tender breach]

and I still miss yhe priority option of WA to stack icons. I hop Arcui will implement that option

[gilded karma]

you have the chance to remake ur UI and this is the elements you decide to use

crazy work

[tender breach]

Its just the begining. I have to add all the cd bars defensives etc but its goin to turn out clean and not with all the icons stackd. I still need the priority option of WA to stack some icons but I dont think its difficult to implement in coding

[gilded karma]

I'm talking about the visuals themselves, rather than the organisation of it

[covert kestrel]

Halo health bar

[silk dirge]

does trickster need to relog for auto bug

or no

just FB

[grave carbon]

just fb

[split grove]

How much better is ruthlessness compared to sleight of hand ? And cold blooded killer is confirmed bugged we take supercharger ?

[raven socket]

Wow the slow grappling hook is really shitty

[unreal drum]

yo, whats the name of the addon that allows the bar style combo points

[normal forge]

no more double coups?

[unreal drum]

read the set bonus now xDD

[pastel sierra]

why do i have to look at the shitty blizz dmg numbers now

[hardy vault]

i just got baited by the item upgrades

imagine getting a myth track weapon in vault this week and not being able to upgrade it

[shy sandal]

any replacement for SUF?

[bright cedar]

okayokayokay, since we playing fatebound and no more 1hr trick, someone help me with a macro or something

how do I use tricks of the trade like a normal human being

[normal forge]

2/2 fan the hammer seems like a must with this current energy regen rate

[quaint sable]

I see no changes?

Isnt that wat it always did 😄

[gaunt phoenix]

My cold blood stopped working so i think so :l

And ruthlessness is like 2.5% ahead of sleight

[normal forge]

i think the spec is good, its just lacking energy regen imo

not missing the vanish loop, thx god

[oak forum]

I liked the vanish loop but yes its look good

[unreal drum]

wait what does yours say? 😂

[unkempt dew]

Are we having fun yet?

[wintry solar]

Ye

[copper radish]

💯

[placid marsh]

hey bros

how to stop stealth from changing the action bar

[quaint sable]

I saw som eone with a 45 key... wtf did blizz mess up

[brisk spear]

Can you not disable them anymore?

[pastel sierra]

you can

but i want to see dmg numbers

just not the blizz ones

i used to have nameplate scrolling battle text but that's ded now

[steep rampart]

Blizz left 600+ ilvl in time walking WoD vendor. But it is already fixed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/03wuiBQzOZ

[quaint sable]

ooh dam

a dagger that casually has over 10x ur character agi or smth

[steep rampart]

Yeah, people cleared Dimensius mythic basically for free and got ez mount) unlucky it might be reverted back tho...

[placid marsh]

how to open damage meter

[quaint sable]

wdym open?

[placid marsh]

Open it. Does it only show in when I join dungeons or something

[copper radish]

This is amazing 😂

Bros first wrong step was logging it 🤦‍♂️

[bold sphinx]

Can I hide combo points from here?

[gaunt phoenix]

BetterBlizzFrames can do it

I don't think there is a native way

[bold sphinx]

Thanks

[quaint sable]

I assume this is the swap we make tyo take super over cold blooded

remove iron stomach

[silk stirrup]

Is tight spender really better than the other options?

[echo tapir]

Haha how goes it 🙂

[quaint sable]

We never cast ambush

[silk stirrup]

Ah but wait, I thought it competed with the bottom rows

[sinful rapids]

yo, is it possible to place buff icons one by one where i want them to be or i can just place them in one row ? and is it possible to make energy bar and CP vertical ?

[quaint sable]

or u mean drop it for like 2 pnts supercharger?

[silk stirrup]

Ye

[quaint sable]

u cant

[silk stirrup]

But I guess it's not on the same tier

[quaint sable]

Also since we are a tad energy starved it is nicve

[silk stirrup]

How's energy feeling after the rework?

[quaint sable]

u need a decent amnt of hast to have no downtime but for the most part its good

[silk stirrup]

All right.

It felt good in beta keys with lowish haste, but you have a break between backs sometimes and to get tea back

Not sure in prolonged ST fights like raid bosses

[quaint sable]

in beta u have ur apex talents

and some extra points to spend in the other trees

[silk stirrup]

Oh, I didn't realize the apex talents gave energy regen

I just assume they are all passive and with no effects outside of some extra damage

[wintry solar]

It's not regen it's just your bte doesn't cost energy

[vivid vessel]

i mean

its mostly yhat it refund cp

[shell fossil]

1 fth for kir?

[quaint sable]

probs not worth since we want the resource efficiency

[shell fossil]

aw

[dire plank]

Can be outlaw Rogue worth if i dont play phisical comp on M+ on midnight?

[vivid vessel]

no one knows about tuning

it wasnt even worth in physical comp this tier

[dire plank]

Yeah haha

I mean, i always play outlaw but i dont really know if the damage is bigger playing phisical comp comparing to my teammates(mague and warlock)

[vivid vessel]

phys comp is basically 15% damage boost for outlaw

doesnt make it good tho

[dire plank]

Yeah i understand maybe i can play It like an utility class with good damage but not like the Carry

[vivid vessel]

well

rogue is prolly one of the class with the least utility in keys

so idk about that

outlaw is now also very squishy so you dont have that anymore

[dire plank]

O something similar like if u play WW monk right?

Is°

[vivid vessel]

well ww brings a real raid buff at least

[fathom wharf]

jesus christ i hate thistle tea

[dire plank]

Yeah i mean just M+

[fathom wharf]

how is there still no purely manual tea

[vale saffron]

whats a good alliance race for rogue?

[dire plank]

Dwarf

[gaunt rover]

female draenei, for reasons i will not elaborate

[unkempt dew]

Okay i would love that crackshot(forgot the name) just reward full combo points. It feels weird after a proc to press SS

[runic gulch]

Just logged in, my theory was correct, I still have a paused stealthed ADR in pre patch before stealthing + ADR before servers went down

Currently stuck at 18 secs

So all I need to do is just never break subterfuge for 2 years and I should be good

[brisk spear]

Good luck

[sour cedar]

apologies for probably asking a question someone has asked, I did search
can we not track RtB buffs in the cooldown manager?

[quaint sable]

We can

[shell fossil]

my situational transmogs aren't working heem

i'm telling

[quaint sable]

I think by default its tracked as a bar

[sour cedar]

oh found it right clicking a Trackecd Bar and changing it to a Tracked Buff

but then you lose the bar

[covert kestrel]

If you're not doing title push then play what you like

[sour cedar]

this implementation is so ugly

[haughty moat]

so what addon are we using for better combo points now ?

[covert kestrel]

Sensei

[quaint sable]

What are ppl using for unit frames with ur doing arc + sensei.

[vapid blaze]

how easy is it to gear now?

[real badge]

the notification thing in cd manager doesnt work? on beta i can make a sound when bf is rdy

[quaint sable]

as easy as last week

[vapid blaze]

sad

[quaint sable]

Since we like crit now I assume is p solid in m+?

[tender wedge]

Always was

[pale herald]

What talents are we rocking in m+ now btw?

[inland acorn]

Check pins, there is prepatch build

[covert kestrel]

Unhalted Unit Frames

[lament cloud]

@vivid vessel did you/are you gonna remake your unitframes in another addon or just playing default frames with suf gone?

[vivid vessel]

imma use unalthed prolly

[proven ocean]

zaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaac

!!!

[vivid vessel]

but unaltedf doesnt do borders

[proven ocean]

me

[vivid vessel]

so idk

[proven ocean]

biggest fan of you zac

!

[vivid vessel]

imma pull request adding borders maybe

otherwise idk

i give up and go play league

[proven ocean]

zac zac zac zac zac zac zac zac zac zac

zac zac zac zac

[vivid vessel]

Ye that's me

Yo cuh

[proven ocean]

Yo cuh

[vivid vessel]

Did you login yet

I didn't

[proven ocean]

login what

thoughts?

[vivid vessel]

Login to wow

It's prepatch kekw

[proven ocean]

yeye

sec

me show

ok

[vivid vessel]

Least hype prepatch ever

[haughty moat]

dont do it, its aweful

[proven ocean]

are the WA files gone

or

[vapid sundial]

My mouse cursor weak aura is gone

I'd have to buy Yolo mouse

Cba

Wow p2w now

[untold wadi]

free works in wow

[vapid sundial]

Wow p2w now cba

[vapid sundial]

[untold wadi]

u only need paid for league

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel

all my accounts are inactive

[untold wadi]

or use a custom skin

[proven ocean]

not logging in again

[vapid sundial]

Yo same

What's up

Big man

[proven ocean]

sup sup

[wet nest]

@vivid vessel i was using your outlaw WA's and loved them, do you have a CDM or something thats atleast similar ._.

[vapid sundial]

I personally feel like this expansion will be a great purge

[proven ocean]

of players yes

it will be

[vivid vessel]

Not yet

[proven ocean]

their plan wont work if u ask me

it will heavily backfire

[wet nest]

fair

[proven ocean]

people coming back to wow usually ask current wow players if its in a good state or not

[vapid blaze]

zac needs to do a ping or smth when he updates his ui xD

[proven ocean]

guess what feedback they're getting

[vapid blaze]

im so anti hyped having to redo everything

[vapid sundial]

Yeah

I don't think it's gonna do good

I started to quit when they added haste tax and removed acro

And the feeling has only grown deeper since

[proven ocean]

they're just forcing game integrity bullshit that nobody cares about

people just want smooth good gameplay

and good ui visuals

not just some enforcing ass do this do that

nobody likes that in any game

[vapid sundial]

Maybe they should have hired some add on and weak aura devs

To make this shit for them

[proven ocean]

most games its the opposite they like to add new cool features

not remove good features

idk some dev in blizzard just wants to make things worse intentionally or something thats what it seems like rn

[vapid sundial]

This was all a plan set in motion by the lead Dev who is now working on riots mmo

[proven ocean]

i haven't heard any positive feedbacks regarding WAs being gone/addons being way less practical

[vapid sundial]

To capsize wow in years time

So everyone will flock to riot mmo

[vapid blaze]

what i think is kinda weird
they change outlaw so that its more like other specs
but didnt actually give it some cool flavour or animations

[proven ocean]

riot mmo has to take it's time

if they rush it its gg

but idk they also have to release it 2027 imo

[vapid sundial]

AFAIK they are looking at 2029-30

[proven ocean]

like december of this year would blast hard

or october

[shell fossil]

y'know as long as they allow reskins of the advanced cooldown manager i think it's pretty good

i hate the font and how strong the outlines are but it's pretty good

[proven ocean]

thats not what people need

but whatever makes u feel better i guess

[shell fossil]

what's your take on it?

or like what are your issues wit it

[vapid sundial]

Let you track whatever you want?

[proven ocean]

people want full customizations on their UI

[vapid sundial]

lol

[vapid blaze]

its missing some stuff
i swear they will forgget to update it at some point

[shell fossil]

nah yeah i hate that there's no columns so i can't do a 2x2 but the wa esque buttons are passable

bars for rtb duration/adrenaline rush/blade flurry are hella decent though

[vapid sundial]

I still interested in the game but atm it just seems bleak

[vapid blaze]

idk why they didnt implement adding spellids to what you wanna track
would futureproof the entire cdm so much

[wet nest]

welp outlaw feels hella bland without crackshot imo

[shell fossil]

it's definitely a phase where all the shortcomings and inadequacies are on display but hopefully they can add complexity and intricate stuff back in as the game moves forward

[proven ocean]

we always get this brainrot cleansing of things

[gaunt phoenix]

game is just missing a powerful "fix it" tool

Prep is not in the cooldown manager and literally nothing can put it there

[shell fossil]

still have to setup the yap but its really not too bad

[proven ocean]

game ends up getting worse in certain areas for no reason

[shell fossil]

can't recolor bars is grief as heck red for bleeds, kingsbane is blue etc

[vapid blaze]

this
i really hope thats on their list way up

[vapid sundial]

Sorry you're playing rogue

The devs don't know you exists

[mossy compass]

I never realized how much muscle memory I had built around hearing the Ace sound and instantly sending another BTE. Anyone else feeling this?

[vapid blaze]

same goes for all the other ingame addons they made
if the players cant fix issues with it
wtf happens next expansion or whatever when they cba fixing a new issue

[knotty abyss]

so vers are not needed badly anymore right

[proven ocean]

i never played with sounds that help with rotation

[gaunt phoenix]

Yeah we are big critters

[proven ocean]

only mechanical sound cue's

[shell fossil]

same, just the default crackshot sound

[vapid sundial]

Did you just remove the crackshot sound file then of something

[proven ocean]

i have entire game sounds off except for WA sounds for specific mechanics

that i want to hear

[shell fossil]

sound reaches the brain before visuals, not gonna pretend it's not important to have sound options for reaction tests https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFGpLdGEL9k

getright's glock shot promps the inhuman reactions xd

[knotty abyss]

any recommend talent now?

[proven ocean]

ye i have 0 errors in my rotation so

i dont rly care

i keep the sounds i hear quite simple

if u need it then feel free

i played the game for 12-16 hrs a day so i dont expect anyone to do that normally

[vapid sundial]

Me blasting music and not listening to anything else

[proven ocean]

i do blast music ye

[sonic pawn]

can you actually recraft stuff atm ?

I just get crafting order creation failed please try again later.

[shell fossil]

also..not to be a pc nerd but /acm should open up advanced cooldown manager

pressing escape every time i wanna check something is console baby stuff

[jolly tapir]

Is outlaw cool to play yes or no please

[vivid vessel]

no

[jolly tapir]

💀

[pastel sierra]

you mean like /cdm does?

[shell fossil]

type /help for a listing

[pastel sierra]

maybe that's from an addon then

[jolly geyser]

try it

[shell fossil]

what addons are you using if you got a minute

[dark steeple]

[mighty pivot]

@wintry solar my highwayman plushie arrived. A true outlaw actually capable of using a dagger

[pastel sierra]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/cooldown-manager-tweaks

[shell fossil]

thanks, platynator isn't installing

[pastel sierra]

does a bit more than enable that command but i'd almost say it's usable just for that

[shell fossil]

plater "works" but it displays all the buffs

oh it installed to ptr nevermind :b

[pastel sierra]

i havent looked at plates yet

[wintry solar]

Nice

[real shoal]

hey guys, did they make grappling hook slower or am i crazy?

[grim spear]

Seeing this talent recommendation honestly makes me not even want to play

[glass mortar]

they removed fast grapple from the talent tree

[harsh quartz]

is this supposedly the meta now?

[glass mortar]

dont think fatebound is good on live unless they fixed the bugs without telling us and no pins

its too bugged to beat trickster

[copper radish]

May want to sit down for this one…..

😭

[copper radish]

Take one out of mint and the one above mint and move it to the two on the left

[real shoal]

got it, why the nerf tho?

[pastel sierra]

that's what guy put as recommendation at least

[thick vigil]

yeah solo has a pinned comment about that I think

[pastel sierra]

oh

F

we love bugs

[desert tendon]

there are no bugs

in game

[glass mortar]

because it didnt match their desire for the game to be more slow and boring across the board

[desert tendon]

sorry

[glass mortar]

there was no stated reason it was removed and plenty of feedback given asking for it back

[random stirrup]

its definitely because devourer got a similar spell to grapple and they wanted it to be much better

perhaps conspiracy but i cant see another reason

or some pvp bs

[fringe cargo]

is new outlaw just s1 dragonflight?

[desert tendon]

idk i was playing kir in s1

[glass mortar]

less then that imo but yes

[desert tendon]

one of the rare to do

[glass mortar]

similar ish to that

[untold wadi]

it's actually because fast grapple triggered the fun alarm

[fringe cargo]

ok cool

[pastel sierra]

guys how the fuck do i set up my utility shit so i can read it

[wintry solar]

Closer to bfa

[fringe cargo]

is that just because of no kir/ho

[wintry solar]

No it plays very similar to bfa

Just not as many rerolls

[fringe cargo]

ah ok

[cinder relic]

S1 DF was still about vanish and shadow dance

This version doesn't have any gimmicks really. It's just build and spend properly

[wintry solar]

Yeah really the only similarity with S1 df is the existence of HO

[clear zephyr]

We take none of the skills in last row as outlaw?

🙃

[copper radish]

I was doing fatebound last night. No raven mint. And autos were always top 3 dmg. Was keeping up with trickster in 2s pvp

Felt really good ngl

[glass mortar]

autos always top 3 damage

felt really good

i guess i shoulda guessed as soon as i saw who pinged me

[desert tendon]

the best part about auto being 3rd

is that

autos still lose value over time right?

[pastel sierra]

Only if u got lucky coin AND ravenhold mint

According to pins

[keen belfry]

man does it feel weird thinking about secondary stats

[upper surge]

@glass mortar don't forget to re craft your gear

[keen belfry]

kinda sick

[upper surge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397661615561900082/1463544082218352857/image.png?ex=69723724&is=6970e5a4&hm=626a376717e81d36cea45a98a57afed531e4c0c0ab7517881d5fb800e35a12b5&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397661615561900082/1463544543277219970/image.png?ex=69723792&is=6970e612&hm=047fc4fdd9afcd13a3a74f456a7fc09326283dd87fed2ab6a399fb92453b400c&

[glass mortar]

is that a 50 second ramp

oh did they just forget to squish it right

[upper surge]

Yeah

[glass mortar]

nice

[upper surge]

Also you can use dragonflight helm enchant

[glass mortar]

im sure there must be more then just that too

[rancid token]

anyone know how good the assisted rotation is on outlaw?

[copper radish]

Guess u not outlaw gaming then 🤷‍♂️

[glass mortar]

not if i can help it

[upper surge]

Survival hunter is busted

Time for year of the spear again

[glass mortar]

🤢

[minor verge]

anyone knows where i can get a good profile for cooldown manager?

[glass mortar]

there were some from the beta im sure the guys who made them r gunna share them eventually

might be a bit early tho

[quaint sable]

These vertical bars are soo cute.

[pastel sierra]

Are u using TweaksUI?

[quaint sable]

arcui

[frank finch]

how are u getting ur utility on diferent sides of the ui

[pastel sierra]

How much cpu utilization does that pull?

[quaint sable]

arcui lets u make more grps

[quaint sable]

like nothing

[frank finch]

geez i need a whole ui addon for that

does nephui do that

[quaint sable]

Dont think so

[pastel sierra]

Ill test it then, tweaks was running at 15% minimum for some reason

[quaint sable]

This is the entire thing

[keen belfry]

banger stats

[quaint sable]

He do be critting

the green bars under my energy are my tea charges

opp procs show up under BtE

[glass mortar]

y track tea tho

just to know when ur gunna be unable to press buttons i guess?

[quaint sable]

for fun

and its not intrusive the way I do it

I did it like this on my old WA ui

and did the same for sin and sub who do sometimes press

[wet nest]

are icons like these https://github.com/kodewdle/IconPacks

working for anyone with Cooldown manager?

[vivid vessel]

of course

this is an icon replacement

but cooldown manager add ugly border and shit on top of it

[wet nest]

ahhh its the border then

[shrewd charm]

If u have full cp in aoe and bf falls off and u have bte do u tank the cp waste and bf or do u bte?

[vivid vessel]

that doesnt happen

bf tho

[quaint sable]

ye dont let that happen

[shrewd charm]

it happend like twice in a key was kinda sad idk

[glass mortar]

i assume bf falling off due to running to a new pack with full CP not falling off mid rotation

that shuldnt rlly happen

[shrewd charm]

yeah slow ass tank idk just afk staring at the pack

[quaint sable]

I also track the stacks of BtE which is pointless but fun to see how much of an ace streak I got.

[keen belfry]

have u found a way to reskin cd manager? arcui doesnt allow it

my buffs r ugly

[vivid vessel]

yes

i cant share

[keen belfry]

ty

[vivid vessel]

np

[quaint sable]

Since we like haste + crit now anyone check if the weapon oils are better than sharp stones?

[cobalt token]

anyone know if uuf can show combo points?

[oblique trench]

there is no good combo points and energy bar without addosn right?

[frail veldt]

There's no good anything without add-ons lol

[jolly geyser]

back to nugcombobar?

[oblique trench]

major failure patch

[glacial spade]

Did the Fatebound bugs make it to live pre-patch?

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-you-should-leave-tim-robinson-oh-yeah-gif-22987814

[vivid vessel]

of course

[glacial spade]

Hehe Blizz never disappoints I guess.

[hearty stump]

im actually fine with the cooldown manager ones

theyre not that dissimilar from guys weakaura pack before the update

[pastel sierra]

just use personal resource display and an addon that lets u center the comno points

i assume there is one

[frail veldt]

Yeah the combo points aren't even centered lol

[hollow creek]

is outlaw easy to play now ?

[vivid vessel]

ye my grandma could play it

[hollow creek]

shes aint that old anyways

[unkempt dew]

Wauw energy is really bad when everything is on cooldown. Feels like a leveling character

[frail veldt]

It's a lot easier yeah

[frail veldt]

Yeah when tea charges run out the spec kinda hits a wall

[unkempt dew]

Yeah that feels really hard to enjoy tho

[glass mortar]

its ok tea charges usually last a full raid fight

just about 🙂

[quaint sable]

I just realised that all the dungeons Ive run today I did so without poisons as I nrmly just have a wa that shouts when poisons arent active

🙁

[covert kestrel]

oh good call

[quaint sable]

Ye...

Tank told me to swap to wound poison in HoA mini boss

and thats what made me realise

[frank finch]

can i get your profile

[untold wadi]

⠀ same shit here

need to actually keybind more than just wound/instant now

[jolly geyser]

Just click the poisons tbh

[quaint sable]

lemme figure out how I do that

[copper radish]

Combat rogue was always an auto attack champ. Good to see outlaw is back to basics

[wet nest]

@vivid vessel weird. on some chars i have the ugly borders on others i dont, i cant find the option for it. Do you know?

[untold wadi]

i feel like its worth for swapping to and from wound mid-key

[vivid vessel]

masque ?

another addon >

idk

[wet nest]

Do you have the borders? if not what do you do to not have them

[vivid vessel]

i havent logged in cuh

[wet nest]

Oh my bad

no masque btw

[arctic merlin]

hello sorry if it's a repeated question, but fb or trickster for aoe?

[glass mortar]

trickster for everything in prepatch

[arctic merlin]

thanks

[quaint sable]

u might also wanna see #outlaw-faq

its been updated with all the cool new infos

[arctic merlin]

oh right, i forgot about that, thank you

[fierce mulch]

any ui sharers?

[haughty moat]

can we make the stacks number bigger at the action bars ?

[radiant wyvern]

lucky coin still bugged or did they fix it for prepatch

[glass mortar]

pins

[clever river]

heres mine

[dense bolt]

[dusty blaze]

it possible to move the personal resource bar?

[indigo token]

honestly

all things considered I think we got off pretty well

they buttfucked mistwaever

[oblique trench]

Yes with edit mod

[coral onyx]

Same here

[desert tendon]

how happy is zac on a scale from 1 to 10?

[fierce mulch]

thats pretty cool

[vivid vessel]

-10

[copper radish]

Turn that frown upside down

[desert tendon]

are u even gonna play s1?

[unkempt dew]

Yes

Oh sorry kinda late to the party hehe

[dusty blaze]

aye i just didn't have it ticked in the editor window

[harsh forge]

what if second point of ace just gave us opportunity proc

[plush obsidian]

can you not track the new rtb buffs with the cooldown manager

[quaint sable]

or also upped the chance to 10%

[quaint sable]

u can theya re by default tracked as a bar

[plush obsidian]

no

[pastel sierra]

wdym no

[glass mortar]

is that the buffs

or the active ability

[fringe sapphire]

Holy shit Outlaw is fucking boring now..

[quaint sable]

tyhe buff

seeing ashes in the second tab

[pastel sierra]

that's the buff

you can't put the level that you rolled on the ability I'm pretty sure

yet

should be possible i think

[glass mortar]

u can track the buff but it doesnt tell you what the buff is? (like the buff level)

[pastel sierra]

yeah you have to look at the icon

[olive spire]

buff tracking tells you, cd tracking doesnt

[echo tapir]

whats everyones opinion on outlaw are any of you still having fun?

[glass mortar]

🤮

[echo tapir]

lol

[glass mortar]

actually thats too strong a response to this

is my real response