outlaw

[vivid vessel]

press and hold

uh

[glass mortar]

if u wanna look op in remix outlaw probably isnt a spec to play

but theres a thread in the general channel here for remixes stuff if nobody pointed u to it

[keen belfry]

who here playiung mop

legion remix

[glass mortar]

abit

[gaunt phoenix]

"The Warning" goes hard

[keen belfry]

are alts just fried

cuz like

[glass mortar]

wdym

[keen belfry]

u get so much xp, but u get no gear

[quasi verge]

wwewioo

[glass mortar]

o

[keen belfry]

my weapon is 200 ilvls behind the gear thats dropping rn

[gaunt phoenix]

wwewioo

[glass mortar]

i mean get some friends to carry u thru m+

i have no clue about weapon stuff im level 30 man

i played this game for 2 hours this week so far

[keen belfry]

as soon as i hit 71 i did a heroic dungeon

[glass mortar]

[keen belfry]

look at the dmg

[glass mortar]

maybe u deserve to do that damage with a name like that

[keen belfry]

jealous?

[glass mortar]

have u considered that blizzard did this to u on purpose

[keen belfry]

weran my weapon is 276

my chest piece is 457

[glass mortar]

i have no clue how ur weapon ilvl even increases in this mode

i have 1 character rn and its level 30

[keen belfry]

disenchanting

i think this exact thing happened in mop remix and they added like warbound stuff or osmething

like bro im doing nessa dmg rn

[tropic zephyr]

I can finally get out of the washed up zone

[normal forge]

NOW we talking

[wintry solar]

Spent the last 5 minutes trying to boot into bios. Was wondering why it wasn't working until I realized I was pressing escape and not delete

[mighty pivot]

bro how they are at opposite ends of the keyboard

[wintry solar]

I never go into bios

Idk

It's the first time I've ever done that

[mighty pivot]

that's ok there is no shame if it's your first time

[wintry solar]

:D

Can't wait to battlefield 6

She battle on my field till I'm 6

6 tickets left on our team (we're losing)

[mighty pivot]

your pills

[frail veldt]

THIS CANT BE REAL BRO

[glass mortar]

not everyone is able to hit a key every single gcd mewo

could u not be toxic

😠

the one button rotation is still asking alot from some people

[noble thorn]

!log

[lime lake]

ok but tbf as an accessibility option press and hold is a good thing to add

that being said its still insanely funny and i will meme on it forever

[mighty pivot]

this but unironically

[lime lake]

cant wait to put a roll of quarters on my keyboard and walk away mid raid

[glass mortar]

cant wait to bind 1 button to my gas pedal and zoom

[frail veldt]

you know what fuck it

command tables

the game

why even require you to move around

can I Just send my character to go clear an old raid or farm rep for me

[proven ocean]

[keen belfry]

right zeross?

[sullen wyvern]

Skill issue

[vivid vessel]

druid is 721 im 727

[craggy barn]

skill issue

[fallen mural]

sometimes the rolls aren't great eh? jk hahah

[strong halo]

How do we know it’s not a skill issue

I never lose to feral Druids

(But I’ve never seen one either)

[copper radish]

time for le remix

[quaint mauve]

@keen belfry why do fire mages spam jump in combust

i keep being told i should do so

[quaint mauve]

bro monksea dmg is insane

[vivid vessel]

to cancel casts

also cause it looks cool

bro on fire jumping

crazy

[sand berry]

nah I said whatever and tried the pocket grenade embelishment and this shit procced once the whole dungeon 💀

[keen belfry]

ye what zac said

u can start hard casting a pyro if u dont

jump/strafe etc

[spare lake]

fatebound for delves?

[proper veldt]

Trickster for perma tricks on bran

[long barn]

Are we even playing anymore.. what the hell is this.

[quaint mauve]

ahhhh

i see

fun

@proven ocean new pfp

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-nose-poke-capy-coconut-gif-1974646734566907144

[craggy barn]

bruh

rolling restarts mid mythic clear

wtf is this

[proven ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-nose-poke-capy-coconut-gif-1974646734566907144

[gaunt phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-nose-poke-capy-coconut-gif-1974646734566907144

[worldly shale]

POG OUTLAW BUFF?

[hasty warren]

[spare lake]

does fatebound ever beat trickster in m+

[gaunt phoenix]

in theory it might in streets

[spare lake]

wat if tank isnt pulling like more then 5 packs

[gaunt phoenix]

hard to say

you lose flexibility with vanish and you lose perma tricks which kinda blows

[spare lake]

hmmmm fair

what r the upsides for fatebound other hten better st

[gaunt phoenix]

nothing, it's just st

[spare lake]

% wise - played the exact same, comparable gear / iLvl - how is sub to outlaw

ive always played outlaw but sub seems to be not as cooked and idk if its worth trying to swap this late into the season

[gaunt phoenix]

sub is a very heavy cd spec that does nothing outside cds

[spare lake]

yuck

[gaunt phoenix]

which you can make work

[spare lake]

hmmmm

but isnt sub better arguably

[latent oak]

tbf sub is in dance for quite alot of the time nowadays

[quaint mauve]

not even gonna say anything

[slim relic]

ouf

Anyone gotten any of the bindings for Thunderfury? I completed Stormheim and Highmaul campaigns and I've done quite a bit of runs but still nothing
Starting to think they can't drop at this point

in Legion Remix I mean

[fathom bramble]

on retail they had a higher chance of dropping on higher difficulties including M+

could try that if you've just been doing normals

[limpid vortex]

Is 85% adrenaline rush uptime ok?

[quaint mauve]

ok sure, good no

[limpid vortex]

Dang

I guess my rotational issues are the reason I have energy issues then

[quaint mauve]

you’re always shooting for 100% technically

90%+ is good

[limpid vortex]

That's crazy

I can't seem to get above 87%

[cedar kernel]

[gaunt phoenix]

[cedar kernel]

❤️

[umbral verge]

[worldly shale]

Depends on the dungeon too, u will get there

[zealous lantern]

why does blade rush exist

[cinder haven]

Give you energy in a world where we need energy

[balmy topaz]

Wait till next expansion buddy

I actually like BR in aoe scenarios feels like a nice button

[zealous lantern]

ive used it a bunch and its a good ability im just wondering why nobody ever talks about it or uses it

[lusty night]

Is blade rush still uncapped during blade flurry?

[zealous lantern]

never see it taken in any builds

[lusty night]

Cause it’s fucking ass

You used to run it in like shadowlands

It’s a nice gap closer I guess

But it was buggy as hell with hit registering

[vivid vessel]

soft capped at 8 in midnight

[lusty night]

Wow fun

[vivid vessel]

its uncapped on live tho

[lusty night]

But do you spec into it

[vivid vessel]

no it does 0 damage

[balmy topaz]

Wait I didn’t know this

Gg it’s over

[zealous lantern]

what the hell is the point of potion bombs

[lusty night]

we used them during ansurek prog

healers would throw them at the dps on pull

[agile orchid]

is outlaw any good in legion remix?

just want to know what spec will give me an easier time

[forest glade]

Same as retail. If you want easy level a tank

[worldly shale]

I switched to sub

Very good

[rich sparrow]

what is he casting at the start of the dungeon https://youtu.be/WnafDoHiRb8

what is this secret tech

[worldly shale]

adr killing spree

tempered pot

[rich sparrow]

after timer

[worldly shale]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

fucking attack speed thing

cancelaura

into that

forgor name

[rich sparrow]

ohh

slice

[worldly shale]

yes

[vivid vessel]

ye crazy bug

I won a full rtb cast this run

kinda banger

[proven ocean]

dw its fixed in midnight

[wintry solar]

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@mighty pivot

[torpid fiber]

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[mighty pivot]

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you're washed popo

did you have ||tacks|| in that guess where everything was guessed but misplaced?

[wintry solar]

Yeah lol

[mighty pivot]

unlucky bozo

[wintry solar]

Ur fat

[mighty pivot]

am not

[glass mortar]

everyone can be op in remix

[lime lake]

except outlaw

[glass mortar]

outlaws probably one of the worst tho given remix hands u an absurd amount of secondaries

and laws secondaries r largely garbage

[agile orchid]

rogue leveling is such complete garbage

[timid idol]

anyone know any addons for remix that tells you what you have yet to unlock

like how am i supposed to know all the achievs that give u stuff

[quaint mauve]

i really

hate keys rn

peep the prio dmg

guess what 2 specs were also dps

.

[timid idol]

ret pally and uhhhhh

idk another prioless spec

beast mastery kinda

[quaint mauve]

fury warr arcane mage

guess who was the number 2 on paladin dmg

[dawn talon]

bm fucking destroys paladins

[quaint mauve]

you wouldnt believe it

you wouldnt believe it

[gaunt phoenix]

i hate this game ( i play it every day)

[quaint mauve]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[dawn talon]

outlaw prio sucks but our paladin damage is good

[quaint mauve]

MY TANK

HAHAHAHAHHAHA

[dawn talon]

but also its a mage and a warrior in a pug

do you think theyre doing anything but eating glue

[quaint mauve]

pushing keys rn is so miserable

16 range is horrible

[dawn talon]

wait for crests to be uncapped so the shitters can finish the keys anyway

and then just try to get to the 18-19 range asap

[quaint mauve]

im not that good

i just want resil 16s

and ill be happy

[burnt dragon]

anyone know if there's a working version of the old uncrowned insignia addon from legion?

[tight kernel]

Has anyone tried prism over antenna?

[candid abyss]

need 3 more 16s, get into maybe 1 for every 45 mins applying :)

[lime lake]

thats pretty good

[candid abyss]

could be 0 so true

[quaint mauve]

my haste is so close to perfection

i can probably get exactly 19.04 if i move around my gems

[glass mortar]

its 19.05

but i believe 🙏

i tried for awhile and ended up with 19.07 and now ilvl upgrades have me up to 19.10

like 60 whole secondaries wasted

unplayable tbh

[gaunt phoenix]

it's 19.0476190 (repeating)

[vivid vessel]

ez

[glass mortar]

u know its probably better to have whatever haste u need to hit it with 3 or 4 stacks of lethality since lethality is 97% uptime in sims

[gaunt phoenix]

alacrity

maybe

[glass mortar]

that one

hey solo remember how alacrity was 100% uptime in shadowlands and they decided that wasnt very interesting so they nerfed it in DF so it culd fall off even with 100% uptime hitting a mob but added no gameplay to it at all

me when im a blizzard dev and i can make the game worse in some way for no apparent reason

[keen belfry]

Remember outlaw

?

[quaint mauve]

what number is being repeated....

i can def get that with gem movement

but too lazy

[gaunt phoenix]

the whole decimal

19.0476190476190476190476190476190476190

[timid idol]

so

i did the thing in halls of valor

that any high infinite power player does to speed it up

went to kill fenryr while my team did hirjya or w.e

and i had tricks on tank

and when fenrir went into 2nd place the game LITERALLY teleported my tank on fenryr

while he was in the hyrja fight

[latent oak]

reverse snap goes hard

first boss ataldazar does the same thing

[timid idol]

cant even tell if its a game bug or a tricks but

[quaint sable]

The digits 190476

[limber hazel]

can someone explain this? and is it valid to not spend combopoint for so long time?

do you get any buff after the 15th combo?

[gaunt phoenix]

It's for downtime when you have to step out of melee

[limber hazel]

I see

but if you can stay melee, you just ignore it?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes unless we discover a reason to play around it

it does very briefly proc in unlucky moments

[quaint mauve]

@tired rune bro im so happy i sold all my solana

holy shit

[tired rune]

Lmao I closed a long a few days before. Should’ve went short

Tariff talk with the markets zzzzz

[vivid vessel]

727 vs 721

maybe its time to buff outlaw

thoughts

[hasty warren]

maybe

[worldly shale]

the thing is people that dont understand what we are going through

will think

they are the ones with 727

[vivid vessel]

at least im topping prio damage

at least outlaw got that going for it

[worldly shale]

[daring topaz]

Hi! I have a question about the ui on outlaw, I decided to enable the cooldown manager by blizzard but their is some spells that are grey but I have them in my bars like sinister strike, when I'm playing HO build I have it but when I play Keep it Rolling I don't have it Idk why (I know I use it like by reflex so I don't need to track it but it's for aesthetic if I can tell)

[quaint mauve]

genuinely what are the pulls that yall r doing

brew almost doing 9 mill is crazy

[daring oxide]

how do u get dinar items?

[gaunt phoenix]

You cant yet

21st

[daring oxide]

oh

i see

[molten oasis]

Midnight next time you’ll do dam

[proper veldt]

quit yapping bro outlaw is dead center on mythic statistics

seems perfectly balanced

assa on low percentiles is actually so busted though wtf

hard to play it wrong ig / less punished for mistakes

or I guess not enough people play rogue

[vivid vessel]

well we arent pulling big with our comp

[quaint mauve]

ye thats crazy

monksea too goated

youre alright ig

[lime lake]

It's always nice to see the good work the make a wish foundation does

I heard John Cena is gonna visit Zac soon

[quaint mauve]

hes gonna meet spider man :)

[desert tendon]

Did zac already quit outlaw or no?

[gaunt phoenix]

@vivid vessel Did zac already quit outlaw or no?

[daring oxide]

doubt it

i watched him do 21 eco earlier

he almost beat farover

outlaw OP!

[quaint mauve]

@vivid vessel Did zac already quit outlaw or no?

[craggy barn]

there sno way to do a conditional focus cast, right?
ie cast on focus or target if focus not infront/range

[hasty warren]

when outlaw buff

[frail veldt]

10th percentile rofl

[craggy barn]

finally

[fluid iron]

nerf, those are my thoughts

[craggy barn]

saladbar prog time!

[craggy barn]

im so good at this

[torpid heath]

Thx

[quaint mauve]

this gonna be me soon

(after reclear)

[frail veldt]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/45/?dataset=95
why cant I view damage for the stats page of dungeons?

I can view it if I just click on rankings but it wont do the statistics on it for some reason

[quaint mauve]

oh

my god

@frail veldt wanna log review me

i felt like i was getting cancer aids

[frail veldt]

lol sure

[quaint mauve]

with mechanics

[frail veldt]

lnik it

[quaint mauve]

and where i got placed for soaks

but brp

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rDWctKXyhPMJNGY8?fight=60&type=damage-done&source=42

[frail veldt]

you not using the macro or something?

[quaint mauve]

I am

bro

my main thing is it felt like

[frail veldt]

you might have been out of range

[quaint mauve]

i was weaving in and out of range

[frail veldt]

youre fucking something up bad with your macro

like dat shit aint workin

then you sent a vanish right before getting both adr and gs back

[quaint mauve]

i think this was to not drop adr

hollup

[frail veldt]

You can drop adr if you're about to recast it for the sake of getting the macro used correctly

It's like 3 seconds you would have went without it haha

[wintry solar]

3 seconds in outlaw time is 7 years in real life time

[broken quiver]

!kir

[ornate heath]

KIR build compared to HO:

• doesn't use ambush, uses the same builder priority inside and outside of stealth
• is more cp efficient with pistol shot usage (see faq)
• has to use KIR itself as soon as you hit 4 buffs from RTB/CTO
• has an additional reroll logic after pressing KIR (see faq)
• is more punishing if you mess up builder priority at a given moment
• needs 19% haste from rating to reach 25% during adrenaline rush after alacrity
• KIR 1 FTH really likes trickster optimizations, like prioritizing SS when unseen blades are guaranteed (see faq)

[latent panther]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[sharp jackal]

Is assa the go to progress spec for nexus and dimensius now?

[mighty pivot]

@wintry solar bruh I hate this
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there were at least 3 more options btw this was full on rng

[verbal stag]

idk if anyone gaf abt legion remix but if so, is it just me or does outlaw feel really shit to play in it

am I just bad or does it just feel really awkward

every other class spec i've tried feels way better

[quaint mauve]

both

it sucks

and it sucks to play

gg

[verbal stag]

least it's not just me

but it's a shame

was really enjoying outlaw on retail

[wintry solar]

Get your infinite power

[vivid vessel]

Isn't it the same

Same talents and shit

[arctic hollow]

It's the same, other classes just benefit more from the cool interactions with the bnus spells

It's like reading the Riven discourse all over again

[wintry solar]

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I did the same thing

Crazy

[verbal stag]

oh on retail I use keep it rolling and smth taht gives me combo points with every bladestorm use

but the talent build I looked at on the remix section doesn't have that

guess I could just use the normal one I use on retail

[wintry solar]

I just use regular HO build

Doesnt really matter

[hybrid crown]

KIR is fine in remix if you want to use it instead. Look at the icy guide instead of wowhead for the cookie cutter kir St and aoe builds

[hasty warren]

Hi pirates

[jolly geyser]

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[mighty pivot]

you low rolled unlucky

[jolly geyser]

[zealous lantern]

this is GLORPSHIT

[strong halo]

I beat a bm hunter in a prio 15

Am I goated or was he trash

[gaunt phoenix]

you're barack and he was joever...

[strong halo]

I did lose to the arms warrior tho

But if Zac loses to a little kitty cat then it’s ok

[desert tendon]

Zac loses to anything

so the more you lose, the better outlaw you are

[frail veldt]

Zacs whole group is getting carried by a brewmaster

[strong halo]

How come the brews I play with don’t carry me smh

[glass mortar]

@vivid vessel r8 my fit

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/871188656357015623/1427008801306841159/image.png?ex=68ed4d02&is=68ebfb82&hm=7e9958e493b12a8505efcc1ab9fdcdf5d23894d4e4f8d41b27f252478f4f1e22&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[vivid vessel]

wtf

is this shit

bro

fukc you

[glass mortar]

lore accurate boomkin wdym

[proven ocean]

wtf
is this shit
bro
fukc you

[gaunt phoenix]

wtf
is this shit
bro
fukc you

[tight kernel]

is outlaw doable in dimmy now?

or we still cooked

sub is zzzz

[quaint mauve]

it’s been killed on outlaw

[tight kernel]

Once

xd

LOL

[quaint mauve]

xd

get that 100 parse bro

[vivid vessel]

well

since .5

but before that there was like 5 kills

or smt h

[tight kernel]

just curious if its even worth or just trollin

i got sub gear just outlaw more fun

[vivid vessel]

no outlaw is trash on the boss

big troll

but oh well

[tight kernel]

kk so sub is it

bummer

[keen belfry]

Outlaw is so good on dimensius what r u guys saying

[runic gulch]

my tank is telling me to not use tricks on him in raid on pull because apparently this season it's causing overaggro issues and fucking up taunts/tank swaps? and apparently has been since 11.1? is this actually a thing or is he cooked? genuinely curious

[civic meadow]

Tank aggro has been an issue yes

[kind otter]

I'm sending outlaw on dimmy cause I can't play any other spec in the game 🙁 help

[tight kernel]

you cappo?

[hasty warren]

!bug

[ornate heath]

[Outlaw bug Thread](#1276315296159760467 message)

[tight kernel]

100% cappuccino

[keen belfry]

i never cappo

[quaint mauve]

i press it

my tanks have no issue

can u use the artifact weapon appearances from remix?

on retail

[wintry solar]

Yeah

[quaint mauve]

REALLY?

[wintry solar]

Yeah

[quaint mauve]

sigh

now i have to play timewalking

[wintry solar]

No you dont

You can earn them on retail

[quaint mauve]

what

[wintry solar]

Yeah

You can actually earn more than on remix

Because theres no pvp on remix

[quaint mauve]

wait whatttt

i think i got the pvp ones

bc i got a new recolor not too long ago

i thought it was just for everyone

im so confused now

i need to look this up

[wintry solar]

All the ones you can unlock in remix are the same ones you unlock on retail

Only MT aren't available

This shouldn't be news to anyone

[mint crater]

There is a guide for remix?

[strong halo]

how come i have a public log, that i can see on warcraft logs

that doesnt appear on my profile

[keen belfry]

because

[strong halo]

because ???

[keen belfry]

yeah

[strong halo]

well when you say it like that. True

[upper surge]

Apparently outlaw rogues are now known as @vivid vessel s minions?

[strong halo]

Im not a minion im just part of his cult.

[keen belfry]

what disc is that? the RLE discord hates outlaw players

[upper surge]

Evoker

[keen belfry]

evoker discord

needs boom boom

larias can u make a remix guide

[proven ocean]

They hated us because my old rl sent outlaw logs on raszageth that matched sub rogue shield dmg

And they just disagreed because of their ego

And got pissed off for no reason

Might’ve been alot of more other stories aswell

But thats one i remember on top of my head

[keen belfry]

they hated me palying outlaw on fyrakk

[proven ocean]

I did sub rogue dps as outlaw on prog

So

[keen belfry]

they said a good sub rogue would do 30mil boss dam in p2 of fyrakk, why are you playing outlaw? and i did like 31million

yeah

[proven ocean]

My rl did send logs

Somehow they got even more pissed off

Was crazy to read

Idk man some ppl just have ego for being a part of something they just develop on their own that its bad while they are already working hard on that subject

Especially when things are quite identical or way better

[keen belfry]

cant really blame them, they are probs used to avg outlaw rogues and during that tier if thats the case, play sub

[proven ocean]

Probably

Most outlaws are microwaved tho thats for sure

So logs are abit hypermicrowaved if outlaw isnt played too well

[strong halo]

really? i feel like it takes a special breed to play outlaw

so average parses are harder vs shit classes like fury warr or hunters

i always felt like its super easy to parse on hunter

well "relatively"

[quaint mauve]

get ur vers up not ur funny up

[mighty pivot]

@wintry solar
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[fallen mural]

has anyone tried fatebound in M+ since the buffs? like using our M+ spec but just swappign hero talent to fatebound?

[keen belfry]

can maybe in a dungeon like streets, but its not good

[frail veldt]

Did they buff it recently?

[gaunt phoenix]

Bugfix

[frail veldt]

Ah was that the heads coin thing?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[verbal trellis]

I just watched the first 3 minutes of an Outlaw 20 priory video and all the APM/CCing etc. and still gets dumpstered by Fury/Feral. What's the point

[teal garnet]

fun and dedication

[keen belfry]

Love of the spec/self deprecation

[fallen mural]

to strive for the one time you have 6 dice up the whole instance. It's like sitting at a slot machine. one day it will happen

and when it does

You'll be second on the meters

[teal garnet]

if u arent pushing like r1 keys, honestly Outlaw blasts most pugs outta the water 🤷

[frail veldt]

@vivid vessel how would you say fried apple in French

[frail veldt]

More of a curse than a blessing

[teal garnet]

🤷 atleast the damage in the key can come from somewhere without externals, makes pug keys more palatable

shame you want melee god comp to push

[indigo token]

outlaw fun

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[teal garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-callouts-rogue-gif-26757787

[spare lake]

at least were front page for m+

[clear grove]

Am i the only one getting broken out of stealth when i take the portal on dimensius? I dont get broken out of stealth on sub, idk why its happeneing on outlaw

[gaunt phoenix]

it's a bug with subterfuge

so it happens to outlaw specifically

[clear grove]

makes sense, thankyou

[quaint mauve]

outlaw op??????????????????

[wintry solar]

Did you look it up

The remix thing

[quaint mauve]

ye

too much work

[wintry solar]

Lol

[wintry solar]

Wordle 1577 5/6*

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@mighty pivot

[strong halo]

Pomme frite

[frail veldt]

how would you say french fries?

[strong halo]

Des frites?

[frail veldt]

or fried potatoes I guess

I thought pomme frites was the word for french fries

[strong halo]

Pommes frites works too

[frail veldt]

thats funny haha

I guess no one fries apples

so it doesnt matter

[strong halo]

Well I guess you don’t really say fried potatoes either in English

You just say fries

[frail veldt]

you say french fries

but yeah

[strong halo]

Zac’s French Canadian though he barely speaks French

[frail veldt]

LOL hes gona be so insulted to hear that

[strong halo]

It’s ok I’m just trying to steal his title as the French authority on this discord

[vivid vessel]

?

Stfu

[mighty pivot]

you guys forced zac to stop watching hockey while eating poutine

[molten oasis]

Is the Cud still an thing to use in off hand in Keys? Or dose a 727 off hand just do better

Also What’s this Dagger Vs sward thing I’m reading it’s like not much dps dif right

[hardy thicket]

!oh

[ornate heath]

A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.

[quaint mauve]

@frail veldt why is my green parse on fract a top 100 parse

[molten oasis]

Thank you

[hardy thicket]

Im not sure its been checked regarding cudgel tbh

[molten oasis]

I guess if you want “Minmax” damage you want it plus if you make a Vers/Crit dagger can play other 2 specs with it

[molten oasis]

Just raid Cud replaced at hero track anyway 🤔 witch I’m over sounds good

Thank you for the info

Gotta Sim it see if it’s “best” for me 🙂 probs will be but still need to sim

[frail veldt]

Cuz there's only a couple hundred people dumb enough to play outlaw in mythic

[serene cosmos]

On fractillus, it could make sense tbh

[earnest sphinx]

@vivid vessel did u fix the annoying sub Sounds on platform

Im losing my mind

On saladbar

[vivid vessel]

no

idk

its just fucked on there

i dont get it

[earnest sphinx]

Its so fkin annoying

I cant fix it im losing my mind

[mighty pivot]

annoying sub sounds

[earnest sphinx]

I cant even find the root of the problem

[sour vault]

and my parses are still grey

[left jay]

Outlaw ruined the fun of all of my previous favourite specs

Does anyone have any recommendations for other specs they still enjoy?

Not necessarily similar to Outlaw I just want to know what other specs Outlaw players enjoy so that I can hopefully enjoy another spec again :(

[vivid vessel]

none

[left jay]

damn

[torpid fiber]

it's legit a problem with the spec

It's like getting addicted to drugs

[left jay]

I'm trying to find other specs to enjoy since I suspect Blizzard do not want Outlaw to exist as Outlaw anymore

Based off what they've been saying lately in interviews

Their new combat philosophy is just the opposite of everything Outlaw is

[strong cargo]

I like protpal/retpal/frost mage 🤷‍♂️

[serene brook]

shadow priest

[cinder haven]

what aspects of outlaw make you like it?

[vivid vessel]

Guns!

[serene brook]

then why dont play hunter instead

[devout garden]

If you like outlaw then u can play fury or enh. Imho in terms of playstyle, reactive and fast gameplay they are closest to outlaw out all melee specs

[serene brook]

cant even transmog or change the guns we are shooting from, symbols are all the same

[devout garden]

Fury is more fast than reactive but who cares whoosh whoosh

[serene brook]

enhance is close one

gameplaywise

[devout garden]

In DF it was more like outlaw in elem build rather than phys

[serene brook]

piano gameplay

[devout garden]

Still kinda close right now in both but i dropped my enh this season cuz it is same shit metawise(outlaw) and 2pc gameplay is shit in m+

[hasty warren]

Hi pirates

[wintry solar]

hello

[violet ferry]

Discord not closed yet? No buffs then

[small nacelle]

Quick question: Is there a way to disable the default pistolshot proc effect on screen? i wanted an WA so that it only appears when ive 5 or more stacks

[gaunt phoenix]

spell alert opacity in game settings

[small nacelle]

Is there something else which will be not visible then? as side effect?

[gaunt phoenix]

Not for outlaw

i don't think we have any other spell alert

but it would disable stuff for other specs

[small nacelle]

mhmm okay, you got any idea about sub and assa?

[gaunt phoenix]

Haven't played those specs in 6 years so nope

[small nacelle]

lul

[vivid vessel]

blindside

[small nacelle]

do we still shoot BTE in stealth when atleast 5cp?

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[untold yarrow]

im playing outlaw

for the rest of prog

fuck sub

idgaf

[hollow creek]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[delicate seal]

what would you say old vs new is

[small nacelle]

I just started again after Dragonflight, which playstyle would you recommend without any new set pieces and while still leveling?

[keen belfry]

@tough salmon bro

@vivid vessel can u tell him to stop

[covert kestrel]

Lmao calling in big bro

[quaint mauve]

monksea is the group leader

zac has no say

[desert tendon]

For 20 bucks i ll unban anyone

[keen belfry]

@tough salmon runs a bad stream and bans passionate fans

[flat pebble]

guys, anyone see a video about outlaw on midnight?

[tough salmon]

is that your unban request?

I feel like you should work on it lmao

[vivid vessel]

bro fr fr tho ..

@tough salmon runs a bad stream and bans passionate fans

yo @tough salmon

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-nose-poke-capy-coconut-gif-1974646734566907144

[keen belfry]

Can you help me revise it rq

@vivid vessel I got banned for flaming u btw

[vivid vessel]

gg bro ..

[keen belfry]

Yeah. Gg…:

Whatever. Porsea wants to lose the support the United States….

Whatever..

[tough salmon]

only I get to flame him smh

I will unban you dw

I thought it was just some random dude flaming my boi zac

we cant have that

[keen belfry]

how could u not know awang?

[tough salmon]

my bad dawg

[keen belfry]

All G..

[vivid vessel]

@proven ocean we got 2 zeross cuh

[keen belfry]

if u type in tomelvis chat u may get a timeout porsea

[proven ocean]

on top?

and on bottom u

or

nice

like it alot

ty zac

[vivid vessel]

npnp

@proven ocean

imagine if we can ride capys

in midnight

that would go crazy no

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-gif-10487976503085012594

thoughts

@proven ocean 3 of you now ..

[proven ocean]

WOULD BE SO GOOD

[gaunt phoenix]

Is that ahedgehog

[vivid vessel]

no?

its a big rat

bro doesnt know ..

[gaunt phoenix]

Hm

[desert tendon]

it s sonic

cant u see

[spare lake]

is crest cap gonna be dropped tmrw

[vivid vessel]

next week

[spare lake]

how much does it increase weekly

[spice cedar]

Infinity next week

90 per week otherwise

[spare lake]

ty

[mighty pivot]

@wintry solar
Wordle 1,578 3/6*

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[daring oxide]

why are capybara just the best

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-nose-poke-capy-coconut-gif-1974646734566907144

[proven ocean]

???

what]

well

it has a face of a lion but

its not a hedgehog

or?

[fallen mural]

did somebody say capybara

[daring oxide]

this needs to be a mount pls

[lime lake]

excuse me show some respect

thats a loa

[wintry solar]

aint no way in fresh hell we dont get one as a mount eventually

[proven ocean]

Not with the zandalari shit

Looks ass

But ye me want capybara mount

[desert tendon]

@wintry solar you should check GDQ

[wintry solar]

whats that

[desert tendon]

Sorry for the offtopic in the never offtopic channel

[wintry solar]

thats fine idc

[desert tendon]

You are clueless popo

Entering your dm

[frail veldt]

Is it a pet or something?

[desert tendon]

i wish i could pet Mewo's hand

[wintry solar]

dawww

[desert tendon]

idk what that would means but let s not think about it right

[wintry solar]

do that thumb pet

[fallen mural]

someone loves us

[mighty pivot]

or they want someone to bully

[vernal star]

They want to bully

[molten oasis]

Only wow player in the game that actually wants one

[frail veldt]

What key level lol

[shell fossil]

where's the vers lebowski

[frail veldt]

Whens the dinar stuff happen this season

and will you be able to buy the boots?

[fallen mural]

12 😛

[strong halo]

wtf this is dope Mount

What’s it called?

[long barn]

!prepull

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
• Just before key placement use AR into KS to get Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
• KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
• During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open onto the pack with AR into BtE.

[wintry solar]

Wordle 1578 4/6*

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@mighty pivot

[ionic mountain]

[wintry solar]

Let's see YOU do better wiseguy

4 or less

[vivid vessel]

Zeross

[mighty pivot]

I did

[wintry solar]

nah

[mighty pivot]

last I checked 3 is "4 or less"

[wintry solar]

thats not what I was saying

im just saying

you cheated

its your scottish way

[mighty pivot]

I like how we both hit 0 letters first word though

[wintry solar]

fr

warm up guess

[mighty pivot]

but after that you got gigagapped

popo do you like ice tea

[wintry solar]

I do

sweet and unsweet

[mighty pivot]

proper southerner

do you like arizona tea? it's borderline too sweet but I like some of its flavours

[wintry solar]

not really. I only like homemade tea

and lipton green tea

actually yeah I like some Arizona flavors

[mighty pivot]

lipton green is ok ish

I like peach flavour a lot in ice tea

[proven ocean]

Zac

[wintry solar]

I prefer lemon

[proven ocean]

Lemon i ass

Peach way better

[wintry solar]

okay

I like the tartness

[mighty pivot]

might be my least favourite one

I don't like lemony tastes in sweet things too much

[wintry solar]

theyre my favorite fruit

[dawn talon]

mcdonalds unsweetened iced tea is the most enjoyment you can get out of $1

[mighty pivot]

skill issue. I love cherries but they are only around for 2 months of the year

[wintry solar]

cherries are good too

[dense forge]

@vivid vessel we are thinking of playing the physical comp but we came in the conclusion that hunter will be 10x times better than rogue , thoughts?

[vivid vessel]

yes

but you will die maybe

but i do 0 damage indeed

[dense forge]

wdym

hunter DR with resto sham cant die

its tanky

[vivid vessel]

ok well

do that then

or dh idk

[dense forge]

is feral bad anywhere?

[vivid vessel]

ye in keys like dawn and street

the prio is also kinda meh

what carries our key and let us be able to time keys even with outlaw damage is just brew

brew does infinite damage

fury super op aswwell

[daring oxide]

you almost beat farover in your 21 ecodome

[vivid vessel]

ye

its hte only good outlaw key i feel

not evne suer why

[daring oxide]

probably because you can pull trash and stuff on boss easily

all 3 to some degree

[vivid vessel]

ye true

i guess

we just perma pull on bosses

but ye idk outlaw feels like the worse spec in the game rn

im lowest st

lowest prio

no burst

lowest aoe

the only advantage you have is that you perma cleave so you will kill adds on bosses etc

but you also lose prio when there is adds on bosses so

[desert tendon]

5 brew comp inc

[mighty pivot]

remix meta

[daring oxide]

how many weeks left until our buff?

1 week right?

[vivid vessel]

Yep

[serene cosmos]

What buff? 🙂

[daring oxide]

@vivid vessel predicts 10% aura and precise nerf

[serene cosmos]

rofl

🔮

[vivid vessel]

I didn't say nerf

[zinc briar]

1st pull and the key owner stops to replace me

Coz i did 15M (my best dmg in the 1st pull of HoA) and they did 30M

[strong cargo]

What key level was it even ? 🥲

[zinc briar]

17...

[strong cargo]

Ahah, stupid people I swear

[remote pecan]

did you gap them overall by the end?

[strong cargo]

I did hoa 17, and overall wasn't a good thing to check at the end of the key 😄 vs bm and elem

[serene cosmos]

Thanks me later

[zinc briar]

No, we wiped b4 1st Boss

If Hunter is good u cant win him in overall

[zinc briar]

I know hahaha but wanted to send to a friend by WhatsApp

To rage about how wow sucks nowadays

And yes, i know i can put WhatsApp on pc

But i dont want xD

[serene cosmos]

If you don't wanna argue with stupid people, play a solo game

[zinc briar]

Nice response

This world needs more ppl like u

[serene cosmos]

I can't notice if there's irony or not

If no, thanks
If yes, I mean all online games are full of toxic/stupid people thinking they're better than everybody else

[zinc briar]

The fcking problem of this game is that they dont put an auto matchmaking for m+

This is a fukn queue simulator

And please dont tell me play in premade or play your key

[wintry solar]

People would leave if they queue into an outlaw at +19

I know I would

[granite quarry]

but that is your only solution atm so cant rly expect any other response

[zinc briar]

Then ban or penalty, ez

[wintry solar]

People would rather take the penalty I promise you

[serene cosmos]

You need to touch some grass buddy

Do a break

[stiff hawk]

Also you might want to delete this

[zinc briar]

Touch some grass? Hahahaha im going to fútbol right now

[stiff hawk]

The R word isnt appreciated here

[zinc briar]

I just play 2-3 hours

[serene cosmos]

You just look salty

[remote pecan]

replace?

[zinc briar]

Ofc im salty, i dont need to play all the day for that

[serene cosmos]

That's why I recommand a break

Don't be mean

[stiff hawk]

Not that one

[zinc briar]

And i would play more with a decent matchmaking

[wintry solar]

Let's be honest, when was the last time wow was a game for people who only had 2-3 hours a day to play?

[stiff hawk]

Especially solo

[wintry solar]

Oof yeah

[serene cosmos]

How do you want to put a matchmaking for M+ ?

[wintry solar]

Insult to injury right there

[zinc briar]

I have more hours, but just raid and leave since m+ system sucks if u are not meta

[serene cosmos]

Give me a good way to implement the system

[zinc briar]

U never pushed or u have premade

[wintry solar]

Queues would probably be longer because of the pop difference between dps/tank/heals.

[zinc briar]

U cant understand it

[serene cosmos]

LOL

[granite quarry]

make friends, run keys. it is that simple, ur not gonna get anywhere with your attitude lmao

[serene cosmos]

Alright kid, keep raging on your "not meta" spec and whine on the game

You're the one paying a sub for something you rage on it

[zinc briar]

Then is the 1st, u never pushed

[strong cargo]

What do you mean ? Put 1 tank 1 heal 3 dps together with some rules, no class stack, a minimum of short kicks, shouldn't be that hard to do

[serene cosmos]

Playing 17s isn't pushing, I agree

[zinc briar]

Its like talk to a wall

They wont understand

[wintry solar]

No but the queue times would be astronomical

[serene cosmos]

Then people gonna complain cuz you'll play with bad specs

And spend hours in queue

[zinc briar]

Yes, im not pushing this season, want to add me and i link u the 0.1 ??

[strong cargo]

I didn't see it was good, you asked for a way to do it, ofc there is way to do it

I don't think i would like it but ofc there is decent way to make it

[serene cosmos]

I was speakign about me

Wtf is wrong with you?

I told me "you don't push"

I told you yes, I play 17s, I don't push

[zinc briar]

Cant u understand that i had a premade to push and now im playing solo, more causal, but i want to push a little bit puggin

And its impossible with non meta class

[serene cosmos]

That's was not the topic and you never said that

[wintry solar]

Feels like 2 conversations in 1

[serene cosmos]

And calm down, you gonna have a stroke

[zinc briar]

Bro its simple, Game should be also for ppl Who wants to push playing solo

Like cs go, lol, etc

[stiff hawk]

But thats not how it work

[serene cosmos]

But it's not possible

[stiff hawk]

Well it can work like this

If you change to your Meta

[serene cosmos]

You can't have the same queues

[zinc briar]

Why not, u cant play coz u are not meta

Nobody gives u the chance

[wintry solar]

3 hour solo shuffle queues last night

[stiff hawk]

I mean why would they, if they dont know you

[serene cosmos]

Yes, take the PvP queue as example

[tropic zephyr]

I had a post about that where I basically proposed that we remove most spec specific utils and put them in Utility talents that works exactly like PvE talents, but everybody can pick them.
So everybody has access to the same util, but nobody has ALL the util.

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/utility-talents-towards-a-better-version-of-wow-matchmaking/515001

[zinc briar]

Thats why we need the auto matchmaking!!!!

[wintry solar]

A shit ton more dps than tank/healer roles would bring you right back to where you are now.

[zinc briar]

Hahahaha im always 1st in overall

[tropic zephyr]

Anyways, I'm pretty sure we will see something be done about matchmaking in the next 1-2 years with fellowship coming out etc...

[zinc briar]

And they think im shit coz im outlaw

[wintry solar]

Follower M+ dungeons though? That'd be a spectacle. Those AI followers try to throw.

[zinc briar]

Watching pro player pulling Big

With pugs and perma chain, outlaw is god

The problem is that they think im a shit

[wintry solar]

Community perception is a bitch sometimes I agree

[serene cosmos]

Interesting, but then, you'll play spec for damages and you'll dodge group when you don't have the spec you want with you

Some tank/healer have no synergies

Some route won't be possible

There's too much different "utilities" to bring

[serene cosmos]

I think we're all the same for this

I don't play with mage if you don't know them cuz I never see a good one

[wintry solar]

Yeah I do the same lol

I have to know the mage to play with them

[serene cosmos]

If most of players don't like Ol, it's cause spec is punitive and hard, so they don't see a lot of good ones

Same for hunters

[zinc briar]

With ppl like u queues are insane. I have to know him, his wife, where he works blablabla

[serene cosmos]

But in the other way

[zinc briar]

And we never play

[wintry solar]

I don't take outlaws I know tbf

I like to time keys

[stiff hawk]

real

[serene cosmos]

I don't stack rogues unless I play outlaw

[tropic zephyr]

It might be how it plays out, but then the classes would only be different on only one metric, which is infinitely easier to balance than what we have today

This system is more about giving every spec the tools to not feel useless in a key

Like rogue has nothing for itself rn rofl

except survival

[serene cosmos]

Yes, happy that elus is a broken talent

[zinc briar]

Dodge group? If they are in the group os b4 they are able to time the key

And if u dodge It, derank

[serene cosmos]

But you should just give temporary lust / Cr to everybody when key start

[zinc briar]

Thats how a matchmaking works

[zinc briar]

Extra button

[serene cosmos]

You dodge based on previous experience + There's no ranking system right now

And yes, extra button, what else?

[zinc briar]

Oh noo It breaks the lore of the super Game blablabla ok, let the Game die more

Let the game keep losing players

[wintry solar]

"The lore of the super game" is a hilarious line

[serene cosmos]

I don't get what he try tro say

[wintry solar]

He's ranting

[serene cosmos]

I had that point

[tropic zephyr]

I mean you don't break much, there could be flavored version of a CR and BL for literally every class

[serene cosmos]

But, I feel like I'm feeding a troll

[zinc briar]

Hahaha no, is what ppl always says when u talk about that

[tropic zephyr]

yeah but I don't get the argument

Like, we have pets giving BL rofl

[stiff hawk]

Feed me instead hahahaha, you wouldnt do that haha, unless?

[wintry solar]

I'm hungry too

[zinc briar]

The argument is that they have to put a matchmaking, with bl and cr as extra button

[serene cosmos]

Come home boys, I'm making fries right now

[wintry solar]

Remember this era of the internet?

[serene cosmos]

We had it in the past but it got nerfed

Drums and Ing CR

Cuz Blizzard didn't like us playing comp without these as native spells

[shut matrix]

I'm trying to get rid of WAs concerning midnidght but cant seem to get the blizzard CD manager to display Opportunity-procs? What am I missing?

[serene cosmos]

You got it as a visual alert around your char

[mighty pivot]

peak

[wintry solar]

Life was better then

[mighty pivot]

it was

look at all the shit that went wrong after it ended

[wintry solar]

This is Solo coded

[shut matrix]

oh damn, ty, i always missed it behind more opaque nameplates Xx

I still believe the cdmanager is lacking here though°°

[serene cosmos]

I just take a look by curiosity

Yep, I don't see any opp proc or HO

[mighty pivot]

someone ruined the lolcat bible and now you can only access it through web archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080415013158/http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Genesis_1

[wintry solar]

Aw man

[hasty warren]

Hi pirates

[wintry solar]

Hello

[lime lake]

Hello

[vivid vessel]

Hello

[hasty warren]

[opaque ocean]

How much dps loss is it to only press BtE in Subterfuge windows?

[gaunt phoenix]

like 3% or smth

[glass mortar]

wtf that much

massive

[gaunt phoenix]

You end up losing buff uptime on bte

if you completely ignore it outside of stealth