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boots
nor
that's at the end of the month, right?
With vanish changes in Midnight will we see a big difference for NELF vs other races?
Like is Dracthyr rogue kind of trolling your dam a bit for the extra cc
Racials are tiny and mostly inconsequential
is this tooltip on the cloack new?
Does that mean that the cloack can be upgraded from 730?
tooltip error it still works
is there legion remix guides?
apparently recrafting is bugged fyi
friend claims his ilvl went down when he remade his weapon
did he make it at max quality?
zac r u here
If I have Sigil + antennae, is it worth taking a warpclaw from the vault? is antennae mega bait? (all myth)
are you
idk what to do
sleep
tahts what im about to do myself
sounds like a plan to me
oh
you got gged
skill issue no ?
Antenna isnt bait, if you have the right items you should be way under the crit diminishing return. Antena and warpclaw were .1% of eachother on my sims when i had 13k crit
@wintry solar 
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i still have 704 rings idk what to do team
boe
So is the delve belt nowworse than even a heroic belt or so?
i have hero vers ring
i love this game
cant play the character ive been playing
bc apparently my name got taken after i made the character
what i do in the howling fjord isn't me.
valid
have you tried not using illidan as a name for a demonhunter
i just cant believe
tomelvis still has 2-3 ilvls on me, after i get another reset + craft + 730 weapons
like wtf
is he gonna be like, 727 tomorrow
i fucking hate that guy
zac bout to go up 6 ilvl and get gapped by real specs by 6% more 😎
so i have achieve now
if i upgrade a chest on my alt mage to 730
does my rogue get discoutn?
and that goes for all slots
am i caught up now? 
PSA dont craft a 1h
Just confirmed this on 3 different characters (all 2-handers, if that helps Bliz troubleshoot.) When you upgrade/recraft your 720 weapons to 727, they are not granting the listed ilvl or stats. My ilvl went from ~716 to 697 when equipping the 727 weapon. I also noticed it wasn’t giving me the INT/STA as advertised. I swapped to a back up weapo...
got completely boned on my hunter
remix toon
1h or 2h ? The post says 2h no ?
how is it possible an item can be crafted up and lose all its stats and value
the poster just tested it on 2h weapons
i dont see anything saying its only happening to 2handers
apparently
druids in remix can get the forms that blizz said were not coming back
and shit is full of druids trying to bug abuse it
which forms
It's me I'm druids
Werebear forms are consistent, seems some are getting the sparkle kitties but I didnt
wait like they r getting the hidden artifact appearences?
Yes like all werebears are unlocked for my retail druid
No sparkle kitty which is all I want tho 🙁
huh
i bet blizzard will take it away anyway
cause if they dont everyones gunna ree about myyyy hidden appearence

hows yall remix rogues going
werebear is literally w/e u can get it on live anyway (just a different color)
Yeah it's v whatever but exploit early and often
White and black ones are kinda nifty
is sacbrood any good for outlaw or nah
probably like 0.2% better then most of our trinkets and 0.2% worse then the best ones
like most things
idol is great on aoe
bit tragic on st but what r u gunna do
gonna replace my hero level antenna with it for keys
remix pretty cool so far
im not starting until tomorrow when the game is in a more playable state and addons r all updated
i got my name tho
what really matters 🫡
the quest completion lag is really annoying rn
ye
game is fake on big reset days like this
plus i gotta bed early for work
not worth the headache
gl beta testing for EU and me tomorrow tho soldiers
🫡
i got to the hall of shadows quest... nostalgia just hit bout to be locked in
questing and dungeon grind time bby
The quest to get the dreadblades was hard because I kept getting 1 shot by mobs lol
Is it better to use SoH for the higher % chance over loaded dice's rng with rolls?
It is not
u use both or u use loaded dice
theres no build that is only sleight right now
theres a pin on the talent if u scroll down a little
tells u which talents ud give up for it
yeah this one intro dreadblade quest bugged or something
randomly popping me outta stealth then u get swarmed
its def bugged
randomly getting sent into the air lol
its like mobs under the ground
"unknown explosion" hit me
bout to play some HO in remix should be a wicked time
isnt it only hero and myth track stuff
last time venodr stuff was upgraded
I haven't checkedd pins here, THat might explain my low dps. I had be going to the guide
well this stuff in the pin is more like sidegrade to the build recommended guides
i dont think that sleight sims better then any of our best builds
people just like how it feels
it should generally sim lower then the alternatives by a small amount
hi outlaws
GG cudgel
Maybe a stupid question but does it matter what enchant is on the MH VS OH. Like if the sim shows one enchant on MH. but i put it on OH, and vice versa?
like which enchant is on which hand? unless ur weapon swapping no it doesnt matter
You should try them
@mighty pivot you too
Also wordle in 5
mango is good idk about chili mango tho
You ever have any Mexican candy?
I forget what it's called but it's that
A bunch of spices
Chamoy
whats a cheese now
Bleu blows
Sarcasm. But yeah honestly it's sad to me
Because blizz put a lot of work into it and people want instant gratification
well theres bronze rewarded for the achivements for exploring each zone in legion
And then when they get everything within a week they get bored
and blizzard added a warband functionality to instantly discover all FP and zones that ur most achieved character has
i'll let you work out the rest

i aint loggin in even for this tho
so its a warband ability or something lol
yes
it is GG lol
i just clicked it and got like 20 achieves
nah only a few but i got a ton of bronze
like oathsworn and council's guile
you attack 500000 times a minute with both weapons
shouldnt matter what hand they are on unless u r weapon swapping
i, the only outlaw without a loom trinket, have finally got one
@frail veldt i didn’t pick up my exam bc i wasn’t there but i hope im not that 2 man
just left a remix dungeon annnnnnd the loading screen is stuck
I thought you already knew what you gto
6 stdev on a test with a 50% average is crazyyyy
leave dorn
ive heard its only active in dorn (the bug)
this is another midterm
wow...small indie company
happened to me too
im gunna be real, its more impressive to me that this bug is only active in dorn
how do u even manage that
its bugged so it gives negative ilvl when crafted, but only in dorn
🍝
lol fr u its like they did it on purpose
supposedly friend fixed it by messing with presets
it actually fixed after i flew out and came back in
i think its still bugged
it showing 716 ilvl but my stats are not there
doing way less dmg
QUESTION!
During Mythic Forge... whats our target priority? Like.. do we get pylon assigned? do we focus 2nd echo? do we sit on tank add for cleave? I'm trying to figure it out while progging.. anyone?
whatever your raid lead tells you
!wa
Class packs:
is it time to hang up the cudgel?
Fuck a cudgel
It's probably technically better past a certain cap still
It's very strong
dagger off hand for life
would a 730 OH outscale it now?
probably?
the proc from the cudgel scales exponentially
Even if you have the bought cudgel and not drop?
Prob not past a certain target count
It's uncapped aoe
It can't be competed with
its a bug in dorn. once you leave, unequip and requip
I remember playing surv back in legion thinking "fuuuuck" this
now its up
ty ty
ok good, we got the patch features with randomly not working things, how to fix this?
its probably a tooltip bug
try to atk something see if it procs the dmg
thats how it was to 1 guy on NA atleast the dmg still worked for him
No hahaha I still have more before spending
Y
display bug
can confirm after raid lol, worked as it normally does.
@mighty pivot
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brother we don't have those here, want me to teleport across the atlantic for candy? @red zinc have you seen these anywhere? neither ah nor jumbo have them
They're too spicy for you anyway
that's possible because I don't like very spicy
You can't spam it on alts fwiw
First thing I tried
My friend could only handle 2 nibbles before it became too much for her
Because it was sweet
It's also got a weird flavor in general
because you are not used to fruit? it must be weird tasting something that isn't chocolate or burger as an american 
why is this on the retail lfg
Remix lag is insane lol cant even pickup 2nd quest
take a guess
wiki did though. why would I know mexican stuff
Why wouldn't you? Mr. Worldwide
No you dont
wdym I don't
??????
were you dropped as a child
In my head you're scottish
lol
I don't want to know the truth
Someone say Scottish
Right how do we level in this funny game mode
Just quest?
He wis thrown whan he wis a wee lad
My friends found out my mom's side of the family was Mexican and they keep calling me taco boy lol
one pill makes you larger the other makes you small
but the ones your mother gives you don't do anything at all
and they cannot ban you
I dunno what they've done since karesh patch but the chosen spider pact doesn't reset with the weekly reset and it's delayed
why are you deleting evidence
I haven't done karesh stuff since launch
I got tired of looking at it
I like thinking about Karesh
I don't like doing things in Karesh
I refuse to believe that you like thinking
Why?
it probably makes your head hurt
u got past the khadgar boss?
blackrook hold dungeon
No but being bullied does 
wont let me tp out
hearthstone doesnt even work
wtf is this 
theres no option to unstuck my charecter in charecter stuck ticket system on support


i talked to first quest and my whole game locked up
then i try to relog and this shit happens
yep
make a new character
load in
then log out and load in on that character
happened to me
games so bad man
Why you doing remix ..
now i have two bricked characters 
I see that some players are going with oathsworn enchant instead of radiant is it more viable?
I did it looks better but still can't be sure
hesitation is the seed of defeat
😄
is remix legion talents etc
whats the point then
Whats the point of doing a 20 key then

You can always ask
But we do it because its fun
Its the same as MOP Remix just for fun game mode ig
Also Classes dont play the same, because you will get a ton of stats
and procs and stuff
U still have the artifact abilities I guess?
No
You get new abilities that every class shares
Must be miserable to only play for m+
What about legendaries
None of those
Hmmge
What made legion interesting is not there
Ok so its like retail just with a Legion mod
hmm true
Stats scale infinitely
Unlucky well Legion Classic needs all that shit saved for the appeal ig
its just blasting and being fast etc.
Yeah
outlaw doesnt get faster
rogue is like the least fun for remix
Frankly I'm doing this for housing furniture and the scythes
They're adding more rewards at the end so maybe currently available artifact skin recolors are being dropped
That's a stretch tho
i m zeross now
Any one knows if waist nerf is live on raidbots?
!wa
Class packs:
is netherprism bis for king saladbar
Help, im hesitating a lot there. Picking a non bis weapon that is easy to loot seems troll but so does not picking it. Also logic gate omega could be nice since my guild is still aiming for CE and i'll need to go sin or sub eventually
logic gate is also easy to roll
collapsing stars for sure tho?
in lemix, does it matter which way we go for artifact powers? or just get whatever we'll unlock all anyways
that's what i went for in the end, thanks
Seen any dps change in the raid with the fate buff? Or its nothing and we are still shit ?
Should be a bit better and consistent
zac did you gain 13ilvls yet?
release date for midnight?
I don't know about you guys but my dps has lowered quite a lot
they said 26th of February tentatively I think
I'm wondering its just the belt
idk if that checks out with 103 days or not
I keep messing with the havoc apl, kinda fun. Now I've deleted their special list for meta, the cooldown list and the opener list
and I'm 1.2% ahead
19 January
so i expect Prepatch with 19. january
Because of the squish
maybe to get people to play the prepatch
so they can fix shit before midnight release
Stat squish wouldnt work with remix
nah, who am I kidding
like scaling would be all over the place
and then another 3 months or so on top of those 10 weeks
we are at week 9
Most season are 27 weeks
+- 5 weeks
its 15 weeks till 19th january
so it could be 19 January as prepatch and 3-4 weeks prepatch
new poe1 season in less than a month
so end of january is very realistic
will have plenty of time to play that then I guess
how much rep can you get from raid
like i dont want to alt
450 * 6
oh
4 *250
i forgot to do raid last week
1*600
am i screwed
and 1*1000
With the bugfix surely my guild won't care if I play outlaw on dimmy right

Surely we're competitive
yeah totally not related to our overall damage profile
Hey guys I'm a bit conflicted regarding my vault this week.
I play both sub and outlaw and sacbrood is the clear winner on the outlaw side, while it's kinda meh for sub
i'm assuming you already have an antenna then? which would be BiS for both specs
sacbrood's alright for outlaw, good if you're struggling to make haste cap
Are we getting the two extra upgrades today, or at the end of the month?
Yeah if you're fully geared for outlaw already sacbrood would mean you'd have to lose haste from somewhere else
@vivid vessel bossman Whats the addon/wa showing you when to step arakara last boss
I struggle to do it consistently
A weak aura I made
It's on my wago I think
You can type the name of the ability I forgot what it was
Ill check when home ty boss
any1 having issues with the crafting?
it is not sending the order and after that I'm unable to do anything with my character
today but dinar and unlimited crest in two weeks
Hi pirates
Can you already get 3 artifact weapons in remix, you just gotta keep doing the order hall shiet?
nah, don't have one. Very low on haste atm
But thanks for the input, I think I know my answer then
10% ish?
gonna try 15% because I'm slow ass to collect them
the fell one is bis for everyone
dude rogue sucks at remix
its hard to do quests with it
like always
yeah i just swapped to drui
d
i guess it will be the same
any idea whats the best for questing? xd
can step as soon as your char does the little bump jump
as soon as you land back from that bump i mean
didnt even know theres a wa
can we upgrape cloak ilvl or it's caped at 730 ?


what the fuck my legion remix is broken
i cant even go past the 1st quest the game literally breaks when i try to turn in the first quest
gg
better fire more QA 
both remix and live are randomly hanging you probably cant log out rn. Alt+f4 and log back in
pretty much everything is broken 😄 great patch.
Same. I just don't bother this week until they fix all this bs on remix and retail(kicking from char and locking it mid raid)
Okay
are you John Blizzard popo?
dude at what lvl do u get dispatch
its torutre
i just swapped to hunter
i will level up my first toon as hunter
so it have 50% xp buff
and then i roll rogue agian
xd
Did you play outlaw last remix? Does it scale well for that?
Seems like it wouldn't
Outlaw below level 30 is so ass to level
im still having fun
legion was so cool
sad i only started the game late into the xpac
I’m at level 22 or something and already have like 75% mastery lol
ive said this to my irl friends but if last titan isnt at least somewhat similar on content level to legion then its a failed saga
midnight is already pretty barebones
i didnt lol
this is my first remix
why 30 btw
what do u get at 30
rtb?
By then you’ll have the OH energy talent
oh thats really good
And start getting some lower talent tree picks like the BF stuff
Starts to feel better then
also
how big of a level is a ?? character
like what is the level diff for someone to show up as ??
10 levels or so
ah so its not necessarily that big
cause its super funny
i can barely cast spells due to energy
Once you stop relying on gear proc effects for damage and instead rely on the insane stats from cape, outlaw scales poorly
Also when you get to farm content that gets one shot assa becomes better for spamming fok to one shot stuff
I'm still gonna start as outlaw and just switch when it starts being bad
Would have been neat if they made the ilvl of the wep infinitely scale. Maybe that would break things too much
Basically the damage breakdown for outlaw turns into all the damage procs on your gear doing way more than your actual buttons. Then you look at like assa and see kingsbane envenom etc because it doesn't have poopy scaling
!wa
Class packs:
what is "no sc" from zacs wa ?
supercharger
it says it in raid dont know what it is
for prepull
do you do 2 supercharge
when you press rtb, you get 2 stacks of supercharge
but you only need 2 stacks, you dont get 4 stacks or more cause they will reset back to 2 anyway
on pull
okej thx
but you rtb way before the pull so rtb is ready again on pull
20 sec timer so
so prepull 2 stacks of supercharger, boss is pulled, open with AR RTB, now you have 4 stacks of sc
No you need rtb to be off cooldown so >45s before pull
Sc doesnt expire so you can just rtb while walking to the boss or during trash
rtb instantly when you get ressed after a wipe
@vivid vessel we will AR 3 minutes before boss for supercharge...
🕉️
hey rl can i get a 200 second pull timer, thanks

sounds good
Awesome
ECHOING REPRIMANDU?
cold bloodu
cold bloodedu killeru*
wtf
No we just won't
no we will !
I already afk trash after pressing rtb ks
Release and rtb so it cools down while everyone waits for you
Then you just wait boss reset anyway
Is there no duration on ks thingy
infinite KS 
INFINITE PEW PEW PEW PEW
imagine they make KS like breath
you made idk CP and it consume to pew pew more and more
xd
weird system
I would like to inform you that Hunter is in fact a class, not a race 
Judaism is a religion not a race
but still people who hate them called racist
OK so if we define hunters as an ethnic group it works out
Glad we managed to get that cleared up
😂
tbf not really
you call them anti semitists
FUCK YOU
do we have such ban reason?
FUCK REMIX
wdym
like imagine somone start talking sht towards them
the ban reason will be racism
not anti semitists
2nd google search*
i love google xd
at first i have to accept zac
okay then
im racist to EVERY SINGLE RACE that can be hunter
what now?
oh
Man
AND PALADIN
no wonder there's like no rogues
Ure classist bro
this is the shittiest leveling lmao
++
HMMMM
Classist
i like this word
HMMMM
then i can be a CC (Certified Clasist)
just play survival hunter as your first toon
then you get 50% xp buff
Oxford:
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
why survival
it made your life easier
huh
oh
Is Cudgel worth it now with the a myth track offhand with the new turbo boost item level?
I mean nah if i wanted to do that I'd play ret or something
wings buffs proc damage i think, because of fucking course it does.
Can we just say nah, and not check too closely?
HMM
were the boe rings even worth it at this point over spark rings
that's not his main
u decided to upgrade everything except ur weapon?
XDXD
Wait true and weapon
its zacrebleu
ur cooked zac
mf
Yes but for discount for main u want them up no?
Noob perhaps?
ah thats why ur rogue didnt have upgraded wep
makes sense
he will funnel gear into main guys
whole game exploded 😄
who is tomelvis
what did you do you internet gangster
🤓
did you do anything? a low key? delve? etc
its actually an ethnoreligion
streamer support from blizzard B)
yes
now i cant login in my main
in my fking raid time
insane blizzard
hunters as an ethnic group is hilarious lolol
yeah idk how blizzard broke so much
from yesterday we also got performance issues too
sometimes game crash
like consuming 20GB ram
and ilvl of crafted broken
for no reason
is it
?
yes
how does that make sense
315 agi first upgrade
idgi
and 244 agi second
does it cost less crests?
no
ooooooh
its 1 less ilvl
as in the scaling tapers off
upgrade
wtf
ye
cause first one is 4 ilvl and the 2nd one is 3 ilvl
lies
zac
in game
stealthed
this you
when u play sub rogue
and ur in stealth
no cappy
ok whats the bets tho
i dont have enough for max
is ur mom theree
AYO WTF IS 41% versa
nah
they sell milk tho you can ask your dad not to leave
ayo nvm
in game of course
it's BOE ring ?
Surely I'm not missing some additional way to edit the new advanced cooldown manager and it's genuinely that barebones monkey ass?
!prepull

ye
sigh
!prekey
Pre-key fuckery
RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.- Just before key placement use
AR into
KS to get
Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.- During the bubble, DO NOT
RTB or recast
AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends. - After the bubble drops use
RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger). - Before entering the first pack
BF into
Stealth. - Open onto the pack with
AR into
BtE.
Do we also have pre pull shenanigans in raid?
nope
u can rtb before pull
for sc
got 4mo to practice counting unseen blade in my head 🙂↕️
i play melee so i think my hands could be up for the apm
kek
how many modifier we'd need to make it works xd
ppl playing war with controler have like 2/3 modifiers
i mean outlaw doesnt really have that many buttons
724,50 I SAY
I have 33 binds
idk if it's a lot compare to other dps classes
do you pvp
not this season
but I don't specific pvp bind
Do you also have werid lags rn ?
so what could you possible fill 33 binds with lmao. our main rotation has like 12 binds in total, plus 4 defensives,2 mobility, 3 cc. is like less than 20
Ima be higher ilvl than you soon
- 3 for consomables, pings and extrabutton
!ambush
It is possible to use a macro to cast Ambush during Stealth/Audacity and Sinister Strike otherwise, instead of using the stealth bar:
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
*This is most useful to swap between HO and KIR builds without changing keybinds.
Stance swap delay is, for now, not an issue since we don't want to cast vanish into ambush anymore.
shift 1 for bte is wild
I haven't chnage my binds since I start playing in SL
honnestly it's not that bad
what about alt + f for bladeflurry haha
swap it to alt f4 xdd

vial on 'A' never turn/move left, is that a hidden thing?
@red zinc @blissful idol @viral bison low af ilvl ..
could have been a bit higher but the trinkets werent discounted
still insane tho i was expecting 25
wait why your versa droped lol
it was 41% before 😄
Azerty kerboard
It's Q for u
boy do I have an expansion to sell to you
what expansion you talking about
looooooooool
im not buying anything xd
idk why im chatting here when tomorrow i have a Huge STATIC EXAM
that only god can save me from it
could have been worse
u r in the best place here, cause outlaws has static dmg
HMMMMMMMMM
thats a problem
i can fix that
(not yet)
im shitting my pants cause im understanding nothing
it wont be
im taking it away after tonight
u gotta pick between ur test and wow, sorry
ok shieda decide
been here for some time
i prefer to study actually
i will close the game myself
ok
why are
legion remix
in my chat
tahts why nothing working
can we boot them out of the game
recraft ring and hands with the runed crest thingies
nice
tonight raid will be fun
how bro
u have 6 ilvls on me LMAO
DUDE I LEARNED STATIC BUT STILL CANT FIND ANY USE FOR IT
like why did i solve that
xd
all rogue specs play like dogshit at level 20ish no wonder nobody plays this class if levelling is like this
dead game
im leveling hunter for 50% xp boost
then i level my rogue xd
Crazy how Outlaw was very briefly stealthless but it left such a mark people want it back
dude
thats all specs
ff leveling is so much better cause theres a story to care about and the jobs actually function
Ew ff
when tried levelling in ff before just buying the skip i swear i had one button
playing ninja was like sub without dance symbols blades
i was just backstab man
msq is consistently ass though
really? "all specs" have a button like shadow dance that lasts 6s during which you can cast 2 abilities because you have no symbols, no shadow techniques? Meanwhile the DH next to you eyebeams 3 mobs and kills them 
of course low levels will have simpler gameplay but that's just miserable
guys i killed 2 mythic boss but in vault tab this shitty games tells me that ill get hc vault is this just a visual bug or what? xd
Says you only killed one mythic boss. When you scrolled over it. Not visual
Did you killed the 2nd boss and get in a mythic that was a saved lockout 😮 hahaha
how come boots are prio'd i thought their effect doesnt scale with ilvl
Can anyone craft in the game or is it broken for everyone and we have to wait to do any workorder ?
the % scales with their track
yeah so if u have other myth pieces that are better than vers mast or boots
isnt that higher prio?
I am not sure I understand the question but regardless of the stats on the boots 10-20% extra proc rate on the cloak is big. You can just sim what's better for you
Not for outlaw. The boots are significant for outlaw. Especially heroic making your cape proc 40% more








