outlaw

[copper radish]

It is rewarding to do more DPS than better classes

[errant canopy]

same, I've tried all other classes almost. Can't stay away from rogue especially outlaw

[copper radish]

Like how bad u gotta be at 3 buttons as BM to lose to a fking outlaw lmaooooo

[glass mortar]

i wish theyd undo what they did to survival 🥹

my guy still sitting in s1 gear

currently im delving on my monk and evoker since rogue is capped out on delve gear

[errant canopy]

when you try some other classes you genuinely wonder sometimes what they're doing

[vapid sundial]

Yes.

[ocean lodge]

Outlaw is the shittiest spec that I love

[wintry solar]

I wish we had wow interviewers that arent hard to watch

[ocean lodge]

It's just fun

[copper radish]

Some hunters in raid def just sit in auto attack and go afk stfg

[glass mortar]

theres rlly no spec like it in the game

[ocean lodge]

I cringe on sight of t&e

[glass mortar]

the only dps that comes close in speed is fire mage and the flow is... very different

[wintry solar]

I just did the same

[indigo token]

with how many layoffs are happening I think The Last TItan cinematic is gonna look like this https://stupidpenisx.com/hoodheresies07/status/1964520489961021640

ja-hamon 🪓 (@hoodheresies07)

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[ocean lodge]

Based

[copper radish]

Everyone socially awkward and nerdy GG

[ocean lodge]

Nothing worse than forced social awkwardness

[wintry solar]

they should let me conduct an interview

[ocean lodge]

Like good lord

[copper radish]

HANDS UP

[random geyser]

they also have to stay in certain guidelines or not get invited back

[ocean lodge]

Zac should docit

[wintry solar]

no, me

I can do it

[ocean lodge]

No wait, see my vision

[glass mortar]

!!!

[ocean lodge]

Ion is alone in some nice room

[glass mortar]

zac interviews the devs

[copper radish]

I wonder what the responses to Popo’s cooked visions would be

[wintry solar]

french taco boy? no ty

[glass mortar]

its just 5 minutes of sitting in silence then they ask if hes gunna say anything

[ocean lodge]

Angry French guy in a Winnie the poo bear costume kicks the door down

[glass mortar]

then some french rap starts playing in the background

interview ends

[copper radish]

Zac solo and guy vs Realz for the interview

[ocean lodge]

Sits down in dead silence

"We talk about killing spree now"

[cinder relic]

.. Fury..?

[copper radish]

“So realz remember when we told u about…..”

[vapid sundial]

[glass mortar]

fury is like 20% slower guy

[copper radish]

How is outlaw not at the top what sorcery is this

[glass mortar]

yes so fire mage, and tanks

and tanks do not feel the same either

they have long gcds and spam ogcds like 5 times a second

[vapid sundial]

Havoc

[glass mortar]

havoc is fake

[vapid sundial]

Huh

[glass mortar]

real havoc apm is like fury

it readys eating souls as apm

u dont click on souls

[ocean lodge]

How isn't outlaw on top with a faster gcd

[glass mortar]

it is

[ocean lodge]

I get why fire isn't

[glass mortar]

the only spec similar is fire

[ocean lodge]

Is

[glass mortar]

because fire has double our ogcds

and stacks haste

[random geyser]

tanks have a lot off gcd

[glass mortar]

tanks also spam ogcds like crazy

[ocean lodge]

Yeah no I get why fire is there,

[glass mortar]

real havoc apm is like 65 or something

[vapid sundial]

Does it tho.
Bc if it did that it'd count all 3 pistol shots

[cinder haven]

Idk if I would count ironfur

[glass mortar]

it doesnt do that for outlaw

outlaws apm is accurate (on that)

wcl idk if they fixed

[ocean lodge]

What's the lowest? Assa?

[vapid sundial]

Dev

[ocean lodge]

Checks out

[wintry solar]

remember the interview with Paul Kubit and Jade Martin?

[vapid sundial]

Yeah class is sleep

37apm

[wintry solar]

for midnight?

[cinder haven]

Not sure i watched that

[ocean lodge]

Dev is basically just the caster equivalent of dh. Press two buttons, blow shit up

[cinder relic]

This is not havoc bro

[mighty pivot]

isn't part of that outlaw apm also fake due to gs?

[cinder relic]

And vanish, and ar

[wintry solar]

https://youtu.be/VjYGetutbD0?si=HWrY8NvHTqp8QIV6&t=1222 this one?

[ocean lodge]

It's not but people really overstate how much depth havoc actually has.

[wintry solar]

I've deduced theyre making outlaw simpler and keeping uhuh

[mighty pivot]

thanks for your deduction popo

[vapid sundial]

Basically something we have said

[wintry solar]

im just making conversation man

[vapid sundial]

For like

6 months

Very good deduction

[random geyser]

uhuh is why our damage profile is garbage

[ocean lodge]

We have a damage profile?

[mighty pivot]

the topic is still uhuh?

[errant canopy]

what's uhuh

[wintry solar]

because he said he likes when specs have a buff they keep uptime on through fighting

[cinder relic]

It isn't

[glass mortar]

wat

[vapid sundial]

Our dmg profile is fine in of itself, the problem is we do no dmg?

[wintry solar]

no

[random geyser]

@vapid sundial what lol with dmg amps and add phases a flat dmg profile is dog

[wintry solar]

im saying itll be more or less the same

[ocean lodge]

That's not the profile

[wintry solar]

in midnight

[mighty pivot]

was the message not clear or?

[random geyser]

what is the profile then?

[cinder relic]

So fun fact, outlaw has had a flat profile since its inception

And uhuh is a new talent

[vapid sundial]

So what about outside the amps when people are stuck holding cds and you can just send

[ocean lodge]

You are correct incorrectly

[cinder relic]

Uhuh has nothing to do with the profile being what it is

[glass mortar]

any button u press actively is real apm

if i call tanks fake apm im mostly coping because outlaw cant keep up with their ogcd spam

[vapid sundial]

Damage amps are not the problem with outlaw

[cinder relic]

The issue that uhuh creates is the "expectation" that the spec has 95%+ uptime of ar

[vapid sundial]

Neither is our flat profile

[glass mortar]

its like 30%+ of their apm

[hollow portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233915177685352448/1422406628233183354/output.webp

[ocean lodge]

Alright time to vault loom trinket

[glass mortar]

and some of it is truly fake (like ironfur bound to every regular button)

but most tank ogcd is not that

[mighty pivot]

it's "fake" when it's macro'd very often (in case of FB it's optimal even to macro it)

[vapid sundial]

Wrong!

[errant canopy]

praying, I'm using seaforium and netherprism atm

[glass mortar]

oh true if u play it macrod then it could be considered fake

[vapid sundial]

Where's the early barbed shots

[glass mortar]

i dont macro my ghostly

[vapid sundial]

[random geyser]

and does that not contribute to a flat profile i dont disagree that it has always been flat but this talent keeps it there

[ocean lodge]

DAMMIT

[cinder relic]

It doesn't contribute no

If you took current outlaw, balanced it accordingly but removed uhuh, the spec is still a flat damage profile

[errant canopy]

You can check your vault???????

[glass mortar]

@vapid sundial i lied btw i have no clue what simcraft page is reading as havoc apm to inflate

[ocean lodge]

...ya?

[glass mortar]

just checking top logs on fract havoc apm looks to be in the mid 60s

[vapid sundial]

[mighty pivot]

logs count casts differently tbh

[errant canopy]

I thought reset was the same for everyone

[random geyser]

we would speend way more time outside ARR and vanish so it would force them to put more dmg there would it not or would the just increase base dmg and gut AR

[ocean lodge]

huh, idk what to do here, idol for m+ maybe?

[ocean lodge]

are you eu

[glass mortar]

sure but usually logs overcount and have much higher cpm then simcrafts apm

[errant canopy]

ye

[ocean lodge]

yours is tomorrow

[glass mortar]

idk why havoc is like 20 apm higher in simcraft

[mighty pivot]

sometimes they filter casts out too

but I have no idea how havoc works so dunno

[ocean lodge]

like real talk while I wait eight years for sim, is stone idol good or

[glass mortar]

its good in aoe

its bad in st

but so are we so

it adds on to ur damage profile!

[ocean lodge]

figured, I have warpclaw+signet though so I assume in keys it'll be better than warpclaw

[wintry solar]

you do more than before

[glass mortar]

probably overall yea

[wintry solar]

si that not enough?

[cinder relic]

No lol

[ocean lodge]

I've never used it before lol

[vapid sundial]

Bro didn't play outlaw

[ocean lodge]

so was just curious

[cinder relic]

Again, outlaw has been flat since legion

[glass mortar]

itll be like u do 4% more aoe and 2% less boss damage (numbers made up)

so more dungeon overall easily

[cinder relic]

Uhuh has only existed for a few years

[vapid sundial]

Bfa outlaw wasn't rly in ar too much

And was flat

Until last season

But that was funny power things

[glass mortar]

outlaw is always flat and likely always will be because people want it flat

any design they make new will necessarily "keep" it flat because thats the intention

but thats not the same as saying its the fault of a modern talent that its flat

[random geyser]

a flat dmg profile will always be bad unless it is just more dmg then everything else it feels like

[glass mortar]

sure

i agree with that but it doesnt matter

[cinder relic]

Not necessarily true, but tends to be true

[glass mortar]

id still rather it be flat

[vapid sundial]

I don't want cds as I've said

[wintry solar]

a necessary evil

[vapid sundial]

I don't want to have to hold

[cinder relic]

I'd rather outlaw be outlaw, than just get a cd to be stronger generically

[jagged plover]

would be cool if they stopped designing most important fights to fuck over non burst specs tho

[vapid sundial]

Having a cd = raid lead putting it in the note and making you hold.

[ocean lodge]

Using loom trink on tourny realm was a mistake, now I crave it more

[random geyser]

it wouldnt hurt the spec to have a 2 min button off Restless that just geave u x% more dmg for 20 seconds xD

[vapid sundial]

I swear why is every outlaw chat cook just

Bad

[inland acorn]

If i wanted that I would go sub

[vapid sundial]

[copper radish]

BFA was uncapped tho right

[glass mortar]

giving outlaw a major cd and making it a cd profile would make it more likely to be viable on more fights for sure

id still rather it stays flat tho

[random geyser]

@vapid sundial u have to hold anyways if there is an intermission or something coming up

[vapid sundial]

Every class was uncapped

[glass mortar]

theres 40 other specs in the game i could play if i wanted burst

hell theres 2 other specs in this class i could play if i wanted that

[vapid sundial]

Downtime =/= amp

[glass mortar]

[random geyser]

I want to be able to play outlaw on prog and not get shit

[vapid sundial]

Hope outlaw makes it though heroic week

[jagged plover]

i like flatlining too but all the amp stuff just feels bad, same as stuff like sarkareth having a fat haste buff which does absolutely nothing for you

[vapid sundial]

That's ur prayer

[vapid sundial]

Like I've said. Lust needs to be reworked and let you choose what stat you get

[jagged plover]

they don't design these mechanics with the goal of them being an equal boon for every spec apparently

[wintry solar]

I wish discord would stop telling me theres an ignored message rather than saying theres a message but its ignored.

[jagged plover]

which is lazy and lame imo

[copper radish]

Word salad

[vapid sundial]

Nu uh

[inland acorn]

that's just design being bad on outlaw, having 2 stats being dead

and the best solution they could come up with, was haste tax

[wintry solar]

I dont want to know theres an ignored message

thats the whole point

[vapid sundial]

Monkey paw

[cinder relic]

Not true

[ocean lodge]

I wonder if the play is to just not spend any crests this week at all

[cinder relic]

Fury and mm were hard capped in bfa

And arms technically too but not really

[vapid sundial]

Were they? Didn't see a single one so Idk

[copper radish]

What deal w the devil do we need to sign for uncapped fury in midnight and for a 11yard melee range again????? Ill sign it idc if they take my soul

[jagged plover]

i mean not wrong, but i still think while these problems exist it's bad fight design

[glass mortar]

there wasnt any actual dedicated mass aoe design paragrim before bfa i feel like

[inland acorn]

there are always going to be fights

[glass mortar]

people had just ended up with the aoe kits they ended up with after many design cycles

[inland acorn]

that are better for certain specs/classes than others

[glass mortar]

because m+ was still very new

[wintry solar]

wasnt it 8?

[inland acorn]

you can't change it

[glass mortar]

they had never really needed to properly balance high target aoe

[jagged plover]

i never said otherwise

but those kinds of things are meant to be a generic "everyone does more damage now"

but it isn't

that's bad

[inland acorn]

again

[cinder relic]

If that was the case, it'd just be a damage amp lol

[copper radish]

Why can’t they just add for flurry “deals reduced damage beyond 8 targets”

[cinder relic]

It's not like they can't do a damage amp

[inland acorn]

thats more on spec design issue

not the fight issue

not same people

work on those

[cinder relic]

Because spells that cause your st abilities to cleave are target capped

[jagged plover]

i don't care what issue it is

[vapid sundial]

No they're not.

[jagged plover]

it's an issue

[vapid sundial]

Enhance moment

[inland acorn]

[vapid sundial]

Black arrow moment

[jagged plover]

if the teams don't talk to eachother, not my problem

while it exists, it's bad

((imo))

[glass mortar]

ignite is like half capped right

[wintry solar]

youre on the receiving end so it kind of is

[glass mortar]

u spread it to X nearby targets every cast of something now

i havent touched fire since bfa

[copper radish]

But were they like that the last time flurrry was uncapped? I don’t get how we have had it in the past and they can’t add it back the right way lol

[vapid sundial]

Shrug. I just know crash is soft capped

[jagged plover]

there's other specs it's probably similar for, bad for them too
anything that is designed as a generic buff that doesn't end up being generic is bad

crazy to argue otherwise

[cinder relic]

Yes

[vapid sundial]

And so is black arrow

[glass mortar]

i mean theres no rule that % damage splits need to be hardcapped

it just so happens the few ones currently in the game largely are

[cinder relic]

Whirlwind, trickshot and sweeping strikes have always been capped

[glass mortar]

i think people overestimate how much it would effect their overall if they softcapped bf tho

usually when u do an uncapped pull its because other people in ur party have cds

[vapid sundial]

Yes

[glass mortar]

u will never approach these peoples dps on those pulls

whic his not me arguing against a soft cap btw

i think its an obvious thing to do because it wont increase the power of the spec much at all but people complain about this shit 24/7

[vapid sundial]

They think we spend more time above target cap than we do

[wintry solar]

itd be nice to just do it so they can see for themselves

[vapid sundial]

Is the problem

[cinder relic]

People complain about rtb variance 24/7 should they fix that problem?

[vapid sundial]

They don't kookyat what they actually do

[jagged plover]

i mean there's merit to things changing because they feel bad not because they are actually very bad

[glass mortar]

i mean not in here

maybe ur arguing against forum goers now

[cinder relic]

This is an echo chamber

[jagged plover]

not in every case but i don't think anyone finds being aoe capped particularly interesting

[glass mortar]

we only ever get the cringers complaining about rtb in here tho

[copper radish]

Sleight with loaded feels like I have very little variance nowadays at the expense of dropping verse talent. It’s actually more enjoyable

[sullen wyvern]

is soulhunter's trinket oversimming or what exactly? Whenever I finish a dungeon it does really low damage, but simms higher than some other trinkets at my disposal

[vapid sundial]

You made me want to find my argument about this

From SL

[wintry solar]

I wish rtb was our biggest issue

[glass mortar]

but changing RtB would require a ton of design space and tuning and whatnot and if u softcapped outlaw tomorrow with no tuning changes it would still be weak this season

so i dont think its a super fair comparison

[wintry solar]

what did we complain about in SL?

[cinder relic]

Capped bf

Covenants

"sub is better"

[vapid sundial]

No

We had our communities tell guy to end himself

Over a legendary

What a time

[jagged plover]

foreverguy more like neverguy

[gaunt phoenix]

Bugs, cap, tuning, scaling

[vapid sundial]

Actually

Killing spree.

Unironically

[wintry solar]

tuning complaints are a tale as old as time

[glass mortar]

people always complain it isnt an argument against modern complaints tho

just the way of the world

[vapid sundial]

Nah the real cool one was people spending resources to upgrade shards of domination then blizzard doing massive buffs and fucking a lot of people over

That one was sick

[wintry solar]

no im just saying. Also I think peoples view of uncapped outlaw is plagued by the fact Wits was so strong

[vapid sundial]

We also complained about boomkin

[glass mortar]

ok thats deserved tho

[vapid sundial]

Boomkin was demonic

[wintry solar]

no one liked boomie but boomie

[vapid sundial]

In sl

[ocean lodge]

I'm gonna assume sims want me to take pacemaker since it's basically the "loom trinket at home"

[vapid sundial]

Doing pvp for gear vs druids

[vapid sundial]

Was so cringe

When the druid convokes and insta hits you with a full moon

https://tenor.com/view/fireman-on-fire-gif-6314503928231119861

[daring oxide]

Black Arrow has a spell that lets it be cleaved uncapped

bleak power or something

powder

[vapid sundial]

LATE

LATE

LATE

Ur too slow!

[glass mortar]

oh god s1 shadowlands was the first season me and some friends hit 2800 3v3 mmr

[ocean lodge]

Dark ranger is cool af i cannot lie

[daring oxide]

IM WORKING NOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAA

[glass mortar]

the peak of my pvp career

[daring oxide]

no u !

[vapid sundial]

I like it's sound deisgn

[wintry solar]

what a great season S1 SL was

[glass mortar]

was killing cdew and some other streamers in the opener with my boomkin friends convoke

[ocean lodge]

at least you aren't a caster

[glass mortar]

while i spam cheap shotted the entire team

[vapid sundial]

Yeeeep

I had a feral friend and I cheese to 2100

[glass mortar]

we were so good at the game (convoke got nerfed and we stopped playing)

[vapid sundial]

Boomie *

Would just choose someone and convoke go

If we didn't kill we stealth and wait

[wintry solar]

aw man

slappy hands pulling rogues from stealth

[ocean lodge]

I want that kind of vibe for a rogue spec

[cinder relic]

A big issue for rogue in sl was that our covenants were fairly low impact damage, rotation, and visually. I liked this overall but it was a complaint

Convoke literally blew people's heads off, or wild spirits for hunter, while rogue gets "an efficient generator"

[vapid sundial]

I can hear it in my head rn

[glass mortar]

which is funny cause convoke is 10X more boring then half of rogue covenant abilities

but 90% of the playerbase falls into the catagory of cool = it does 50000000000000 damage when i press it, in some fashion

[vapid sundial]

I don't care about animations

I play outlaw

Played *

[cinder relic]

Correct

[young prism]

I just kicked out of the group because I'm undead

[wintry solar]

been there

[buoyant cosmos]

19 or 20s?

[young prism]

person who kicked me said "sorry skill issue detected"

[young prism]

15 😄

[glass mortar]

huh

[buoyant cosmos]

Insane

[young prism]

wtf has happened to this game

[buoyant cosmos]

I think they just didn't see you were outlaw in the queue

[young prism]

we have more serious issues than our target cap

[gaunt phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982342616614043680/1419842577003184138/image.gif

[buoyant cosmos]

real

[glass mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif

[vapid sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif

[young prism]

that ss of mine would be a good image to our collection

sadly I didn't take ss

[buoyant cosmos]

did you log out to stare at a wall?

[young prism]

I stared to my display to make sure I'm reading correctly

[wintry solar]

in DF I had a healer leave the group on an 11 because I was playing unholy. Dude said "Sorry for what tehyre saying to you" and bounced

[young prism]

I'm getting too old for this game

[copper radish]

Yes

[vapid sundial]

Now a gif

There we go

[wintry solar]

cool is a combination of animation and rotation impact

like

CBB was cool

sucked but it was cool

[cinder relic]

I'm being so for real, nobody played cbb in legion

[young prism]

I'm wondering is this guy aware how popular he/she is

[wintry solar]

yeah

doa

[cinder relic]

That talent was complete shit, and to pretend it wasn't shit and bad is just being a historic

Fundamentally it'd bad too, it's DnD

Do you want blizzard/DnD on rogue

[indigo token]

whats cbb

[wintry solar]

it doesnt linger like dnd

[indigo token]

cock and ball busting?

[wintry solar]

cannonball barrage

a ground targeted aoe ability

it lingered for 1.8 seconds

[cinder relic]

Cbb lingered for 4

[wintry solar]

im looking at it rn

2.5 yard radius

oof

theyd have to omega buff that ngl

[cinder relic]

I don't want ground targeting on rogue

[wintry solar]

me either

but its still cool

[vapid sundial]

The only ground targeting I want is when I die

[wintry solar]

the only comment under CBB

its a shame it was so bad tho

[gaunt phoenix]

:(

i dont care for cbb but some kind of aoe that is separate from blade flurry would be a bit neat

[harsh forge]

make blade rush good 😌

[vivid vessel]

Ok

Solo

Think about it

[gaunt phoenix]

thinking

[vivid vessel]

I have a banger idea

Say

You take your big gun out right

And you start blasting

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[vivid vessel]

In a cone in front of you right

And that's like uncapped AOE or smth

[gaunt phoenix]

[vivid vessel]

I have an idea for the icon actually

I had that idea for bte initially

[vapid sundial]

[vivid vessel]

But

This will do

[wintry solar]

isnt that just surv bombs?

[serene brook]

funny, that icon is ai-generated

[vivid vessel]

No that's killing spree if they had finished the spell

No one will convince me that the killing spree we have rn wasn't supposed to be AOE

And they idk

Didn't have time

[vapid sundial]

The ks icon?

[vivid vessel]

(rogue development cycle kekw)

[serene brook]

yep

[proven ocean]

ye it is ai generated but looks sick

so

idc

[gaunt phoenix]

no wae

[proven ocean]

ye it 100% is

[vivid vessel]

Ks icon isn't ai generated wdym

[gaunt phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1407878495715070153.webp?size=256

[proven ocean]

?

[vivid vessel]

It's upscaled

That's it

[proven ocean]

this is ai generated

[gaunt phoenix]

the emote is AI upscaled but idk the original

[proven ocean]

secretholdt

and

[vivid vessel]

Ok

[proven ocean]

they all look the same

[wintry solar]

come alpha

[proven ocean]

its sick tho

[gaunt phoenix]

hmm

[proven ocean]

so idm them

its definitely AI generated

100% certain of it cuz

when i was asking chatgbt to make me rogue pics

everyone was similar to KS

[vivid vessel]

The ones you showed look nothing like ks tho

Wtf are you on

[proven ocean]

?

same hood

and same

theme

lol

same art

[vivid vessel]

Ye it's a hood

Brother

[serene brook]

it is ai cuz its style

[proven ocean]

same art tho

legit same

[wintry solar]

the goat will make a return

[vivid vessel]

No it's not lol

[random stirrup]

Pull out your handy pocket cannon (like actual ship cannon) and grapeshot in front of you

[proven ocean]

idk why zac is acting like it isnt

maybe u dont know how AI art looks like zac

no offense tho

[serene brook]

have not much exp in ai slop i guess

[proven ocean]

im not saying its bad

its really good

[wintry solar]

I'll go do it right now

What should the prompt be

[vivid vessel]

Blizzard isn't making ai generated icons lol

You guys are wild

[mighty pivot]

zeross is trying to compete with popo's overcooked takes today

[proven ocean]

its the most AI generated thing i've seen

in a rly long time

idk why ur acting like it isnt

xd

[vivid vessel]

Cause it isn't

[proven ocean]

XD

sure

[wintry solar]

It wasnt even a cook, I just hate uhuh and have hated subt since its inception

[serene brook]

whole spec is ai generated

[vivid vessel]

[serene brook]

fr

[vivid vessel]

Zeross

You wanna see something ai generated

[mighty pivot]

KS new design was ai generated

[proven ocean]

i would be heavily impressed if that wasn't ai generated

[slate forge]

I wish we had an ai dev

[vivid vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/kulpich-kulpich-minecraft-kelp-pukpukich-pukich-gif-12136395601868128223

Here you go

[proven ocean]

thats ai meme

xd

[mighty pivot]

bro can I unsee that

[vivid vessel]

No

[proven ocean]

also

[gaunt phoenix]

i want to say a company having AI generated assets is ... legally grey, unless it is their own art

[proven ocean]

thats cursed ai btw

[serene brook]

cmon ai can generate good art, its just not everyone can do it right

[mighty pivot]

that and the one with jesus and the humanoid cat are ubercursed

[wintry solar]

did yall see the alpha leak?

Solo can we share leaks?

[gaunt phoenix]

yes

[mighty pivot]

popo "leaking" things he worked on

[gaunt phoenix]

leak me

[vivid vessel]

Hm

[indigo token]

[wintry solar]

[cinder relic]

Can we stop posting ai slop

I'm so serious

[indigo token]

wdym

we play wow

[wintry solar]

its not

[mighty pivot]

what is the source popo

[wintry solar]

its alpha

[wintry solar]

a guy in another discord

you wouldnt know him

[serene brook]

4 target cap shot

[mighty pivot]

is it mafic

[vivid vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/obese-piegon-ai-gif-6274324043939227287

[jagged plover]

activision were testing interest for a guitar hero mobile app with AI slop

wouldn't put it past them

[proven ocean]

bruh

this is omega cursed

XD

[wintry solar]

a new guitar hero is being made though

[glass mortar]

Zac y is it all basketball people

[cinder relic]

You guys are acting like the candy crush dev team has the same as blizzard

Like tf

[wintry solar]

controllers already out

[glass mortar]

Wheres r these from lmao

[vivid vessel]

Idk

There is a huge market

Around lebron james

Ai stuffs

Idk why

[red zinc]

Lebron lebron lebron

[vapid sundial]

That is a cursed thing to type

Just so u know

[wintry solar]

I'll admit

[red zinc]

👑

[wintry solar]

sometimes AI can cook talents

sometimes

[glass mortar]

???

[wintry solar]

I cant emphasize that part enough

[glass mortar]

Blud ur lucky I knew the sport even

[vapid sundial]

That's a

Very racist term in America

Lol

[keen belfry]

not sure what to craft

thinking ring or gloves

[glass mortar]

What

[keen belfry]

kinda nervous

[digital linden]

basketball people is crazy work

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel thats why i mean it looks similar

[vivid vessel]

Basketball?

[glass mortar]

Basketball people like famous basketball players???

[red zinc]

NA people making a normal sentence into something crazy

[glass mortar]

I recognize the faces I just dont know the name

[wintry solar]

More at 11

[vivid vessel]

I'm so confused, this still look nothing like ks icon, not even remotely the same style

[keen belfry]

Ryaker is cooked

[vapid sundial]

Nah it's used to describe African Americans

Man

[glass mortar]

Saying that's cursed in na as I'm yapping from nyc rn

[mighty pivot]

hood = same icon

[ocean lodge]

what, we're mm hunters now? kekw

[cinder relic]

Hood = ai

[vivid vessel]

Lebron is litteraly a basketball person

Tf you on

[glass mortar]

Ain't never heard someone racist use the term basketball people

[vivid vessel]

Are You stupid

[gaunt phoenix]

oh dear

[keen belfry]

weran is literally referring to the BASKETBALL PLAYERS in the AI

[proven ocean]

im not talking about the hood

[keen belfry]

its LITERALLY FAMOUS BASKETBALL PLAYERS

[wintry solar]

is that what most people here want?

[vapid sundial]

I know he is

[gaunt phoenix]

what have you done

[vivid vessel]

It's like saying faker is a league of legend person

[proven ocean]

XD

[vapid sundial]

I am aware he is

[mighty pivot]

I did predict that this chat would go insane around this day btw

[vapid sundial]

But the term

[mighty pivot]

and here it is

[ocean lodge]

...no?

[vapid sundial]

Itself

[keen belfry]

ryaker

[vivid vessel]

What term beo

[keen belfry]

you might be cooked

[vivid vessel]

Basketball

[copper radish]

Thought these were alpha changes at a glance 🤦‍♂️

[random stirrup]

Nah that’s definitely a racist phrase. maybe weran didn’t know but

[wintry solar]

idk to me it feels like they want MM at a super high apm

[ocean lodge]

But i'm just meming on the fake ai image lol

[vivid vessel]

Stop spitting nonsense

[keen belfry]

zac

add ryaker to your list

[red zinc]

@gaunt phoenix dawn of the final day 24 hours remain type beat

[vapid sundial]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/5ynxy9/what_is_the_origin_of_basketball_american/

8 years ago man

[cinder relic]

Weran didn't know or intend to be racist but the term "basketball person" is a racist term racist people do use. I read what he said and had to do a double take

[glass mortar]

Fukit we ball !ban weran 420 hours racism

[vapid sundial]

I'm not saying you meant it that way but
The term in of itself.

[vivid vessel]

Americans are so stupid

[glass mortar]

I have never heard someone say that term ngl

Maybe it's not a coast thing

[random stirrup]

I have

[glass mortar]

[mighty pivot]

how do you call someone involved with basketball in the us then?

[lime lake]

Ive never heard this in my life

[keen belfry]

not coast thing or midwest thing

[red zinc]

These hateful people got too much time on their hands

[wintry solar]

a balla

[proven ocean]

hmm, we call each other basketball ppl here didnt know it was racist either? atleast in uae some ppl here like to watch basketball

[red zinc]

They should start using their time spent on thinking of slurs and stereotypes on getting the bag

[vivid vessel]

A guy that play with balls

[proven ocean]

i like basketball kinda

[vivid vessel]

With his hands !

I need to add that precision

[vapid sundial]

Basketball player.

Wow

[mighty pivot]

so handegg?

[proven ocean]

no idea how its racist anyway

maybe im missing something

[wintry solar]

im going pro soon

[vapid sundial]

It's used to get around filters

[red zinc]

come play for the pels we need all the help we can get

[mighty pivot]

not everyone involved with basketball is a basketball player

[vivid vessel]

Bro 🕉️

[red zinc]

🙏

[gaunt phoenix]

it's really besides the point to argue whether it 'makes sense' as a racist term or not

[wintry solar]

a basketball person is a person who goons

[proven ocean]

huh

[wintry solar]

as per zac

[proven ocean]

wtf does goon have to do with basketball

[keen belfry]

guys

i played basektball in highschool

nbd

[vivid vessel]

Ok no the point is that American people invent stuffs Perma how tf does the rest of the world is supposed to know

[copper radish]

Goons to baskets and balls

[cinder relic]

Nobody is saying Ur suppose to know lol

[mighty pivot]

cooked culture

[vapid sundial]

Legit just letting him know that term is a bit risky to post and people getting mad at me xd

[proven ocean]

i feel like this conversation is about to get rly weird so maybe change the subject

[red zinc]

i saw ur stats page

garbage time player

[upper hawk]

basektball

[keen belfry]

i wouldve cooked

ANYONE HERE

[glass mortar]

No reason to keep yapping about it yea

[wintry solar]

my backetball career peaked in highschool ngl

[gaunt phoenix]

I mean I never heard of it either and it's not like weran is instantly banned

if it's a thing then it's a thing, oh well

[glass mortar]

Just ipban the offenders and move on

🫡

[red zinc]

Weran really got bonked a day before d-day

[vapid sundial]

I'll come to your house and kiss you buddy

[red zinc]

crazy

[proven ocean]

i think ppl just make up random shit all the time nowadays

theres no way its realistically racist

[gaunt phoenix]

man

[vapid sundial]

This term is 9 years old

[proven ocean]

its 2025 anyways

[keen belfry]

imagine timmy trying to guard me

he couldnt

[mighty pivot]

rumour has it awang was afraid to 1v1 nessa in basketball

[vapid sundial]

What do u mean nowadays

[proven ocean]

ah

had no idea

[red zinc]

I could but id get a flagrant

bodyslam

[proven ocean]

anyways

[cinder relic]

Racists are very creative when it comes to ways to be racist

[glass mortar]

Back to the topic on hand

Why is there so much LeBron ai slop

[copper radish]

Anything could be racist in 2025 it’s just how u view it LMAO

[glass mortar]

And why does zac own all of it

Portfolio of LeBron slop

[gaunt phoenix]

Like why are we attempting to apply logic to where there is not

[red zinc]

fuck racists

[vapid sundial]

Cuz Zac Ai

[vivid vessel]

Proud owner of lebron ai

I own it all

[red zinc]

racists are buncha bitches

[wintry solar]

Zac has a monopoly of Lebron AI slop

[red zinc]

[mighty pivot]

every time you post lebron ai zac gets 15% of the profits

[random stirrup]

It machine learns off videos and whatnot and there’s a lot of lebron memes and such

[keen belfry]

i was the season 3 frost DK on MN highschool basketball

[proven ocean]

zac has stocks on lebron AI

[ocean lodge]

true

[vapid sundial]

Get out of my state

[red zinc]

HES AVERAGING 40

[vapid sundial]

[gaunt phoenix]

lebron sounds french kinda

[vivid vessel]

Does it

It doesn't

[random stirrup]

Le = French

[red zinc]

Theres a great rdc video for this

[proven ocean]

its not le bron

its lebron

XDXDXDXD

[gaunt phoenix]

le bron

[proven ocean]

Le = french

[red zinc]

Its literally spelled LeBron

[random stirrup]

Le bron

🥖

[vivid vessel]

Le bron 🥖

[red zinc]

capitalized like that

[copper radish]

Lebron is 41 and in his 23rd year in the league. Let that sit in

[mighty pivot]

"le me" from rage comics

[vivid vessel]

Really ?

Sounds fake

[copper radish]

Yes

[vivid vessel]

Ye that's fake

[copper radish]

LeBroooooonnnnnn

[vivid vessel]

Nice try tho

[jagged plover]

L bron

[copper radish]

I mean it’s on his birth certificate

[vivid vessel]

Like I would fall for fake shit bro

[keen belfry]

i was the s1 enhanec shaman of northern MN basketball in highschool

[gaunt phoenix]

what is that

[proven ocean]

his name originated from spain

[vivid vessel]

He is hacking I knew it

[jagged plover]

u guys are still falling for zac bait

[copper radish]

AI robot Lebron

[jagged plover]

crazy

[vivid vessel]

Fucking cheater

[copper radish]

Europeans man think they so smart

[red zinc]

Lebron got the same finals record as zac in arguments vs realz

[random stirrup]

Can’t believe wow is 19 years younger than lebron

[mighty pivot]

this is nba chat now

[vapid sundial]

Don't believe u mr wiener

[copper radish]

10 straight finals appearances on 3 diff teams. No one touches that greatness

[keen belfry]

literally goat

[red zinc]

I got people touching my greatness every other week

[vapid sundial]

Proof

?

[red zinc]

no

[copper radish]

Bro had a 100% chance to make the finals for 10 straight years let that sink in regardless if he won them or not

[ripe ibex]

actually unreal

[random stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/let-that-sink-in-sink-door-open-door-meme-gif-11027748423699535107

[red zinc]

Imagine if lebron was our dev

[ripe ibex]

with teams that had no business being there

[red zinc]

Woulda been a movie

[keen belfry]

people flame lebron for losing in the finals to the warriors XD

[old gull]

https://tenor.com/view/let-that-sink-in-sink-door-open-door-meme-gif-11027748423699535107

[keen belfry]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[proven ocean]

ur pFP XDXDXDXDXD

[copper radish]

With 3 DIFF teams and 2 diff conferences….. bro OWNS the league

[ripe ibex]

meow

[vapid sundial]

Imagine if we had a Dev

[red zinc]

Im a poverty franchise fan

Is what it is

[keen belfry]

TIOMMY

[dawn talon]

they wanted him to start controlling the ball with telekinesis or smth to win vs the warriors LOL

[keen belfry]

PELICANS FAN?

[red zinc]

yes

[old gull]

I’m ravens fan, ruining Lamar’s prime

[copper radish]

Gross

[ripe ibex]

that’s a rare sighting

[keen belfry]

wheres the stat on amount of HOFs played in finals lebron vs mj

why pelicans fan

arent u eu

[red zinc]

yes

Eu fan and i CHOSE the pels

[keen belfry]

imma keep it abuck

you are from EU

[ripe ibex]

they have basketball in eu?

[copper radish]

Bro not everyone LeBron played in the HOf yet give it some years lol

[keen belfry]

u can choose whatever team u want

and upick nawlins

[mighty pivot]

so brave awang

[red zinc]

bro we got trey murphy the third

and uh

trey murphy the third

[keen belfry]

trey murphy good

skinny zion back?

[copper radish]

Yall Europeans have Luka to root for

[dawn talon]

zion still big asl

[copper radish]

So that means ur LeBron fans then

[keen belfry]

jokic is the best basically player o all time

[copper radish]

My boi needs to stop eating donuts

And running around with 10 baby mommas

[dawn talon]

fr

[red zinc]

https://youtu.be/9bLEdRt-010?si=AD2FJ0Z-EZWD17Xm

[vapid sundial]

@keen belfry

[red zinc]

important video

[vapid sundial]

How do u feel that enhance is

[dawn talon]

he making the dudes i play pickup games w think they onto something

[vapid sundial]

Worse Than outlaw

[ripe ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-not-ridiculous-to-say-that's-not-ridiculous-chilltownhoops-playerschoice-unc-gif-9099361461632503372

[dawn talon]

by being bignecked and lazy

[keen belfry]

i havent touched enhjance since s2

1 point elemental assault

[copper radish]

Joker is technically one of the best of all time too

[keen belfry]

needs to be shot in head

ijn game

[red zinc]

bro my 2k mygm sim had the pels going 50-32 this year

With the current roster

[vapid sundial]

I quit it when they removed all the skill from lighting rody

[red zinc]

[copper radish]

Never seen someone care so less about basketball but yet be so good. Joker is a machine

[vapid sundial]

Made spec u fun

[dawn talon]

they got 2k in eu??

[keen belfry]

regardless of tuning

enhance season 1

was like

so fun

[vapid sundial]

Yee

[red zinc]

We got water in eu

shits grazy i know

[keen belfry]

no you dont

[vapid sundial]

Properly managing tempest and going crazy

[keen belfry]

you literally odnt

[red zinc]

id send you a pic but i just finished my bottle

u might be right

[keen belfry]

let me guess

tiny bottle

u had to pay for

[random stirrup]

I’ve been watching back vods of tww s1 enh

I miss it

[red zinc]

no i refill from the faucet

try doing that

[ripe ibex]

i feel like people super hate enh from that season but it’s not like it was some easy brain off spec like boomkin/bm

[red zinc]

Bozo

[dawn talon]

feel like pure shit just want her back x

[keen belfry]

just watch billieeilish vs silken court vod

[vapid sundial]

Title push on enhance was so fun

[keen belfry]

all you need

[vapid sundial]

Still mad I didn't get my r1 cuz my priest didn't pi me

Scammed

[red zinc]

I absorb all of american culture but i dont live in the US

[fervent garden]

was in NYC two days ago. peeps honestly think the Knicks can win something.

[red zinc]

Best of both worlds

[dawn talon]

u mustve hit ur head while u were here

LMFAO

[red zinc]

they can win the east cause its a fraudulent conference

[past thicket]

do i weapon swap anymore if i got 2 mythic weapons?

[keen belfry]

remember when details could look like this?

bring back enhance

[red zinc]

Regardless making fun of fanbases as a chels fan has some irony in and of itself

[keen belfry]

NOW

[fervent garden]

hah

it does

wasnt really making fun tbh

just remarking

[copper radish]

No too many buttons

[red zinc]

im at the bottom of the barrel so I can make fun of everyone

[dawn talon]

i cant really say anything about people in any sport bc im a marlins fan

[keen belfry]

HAHAHAHAH

[red zinc]

Mods check him pc

[dawn talon]

come on

be nice

[fervent garden]

thats fucking funny

[red zinc]

Wtf is a marlins

[copper radish]

AI

[ripe ibex]

that’s what i was thinking

[red zinc]

NHL?

[keen belfry]

imagine a fish that drowns

[copper radish]

It’s a bird or a fish idk

[keen belfry]

marlin

[dawn talon]

baseball

[fervent garden]

florida baseball

[copper radish]

Baseketball

[red zinc]

doomed

Imagine living in florida and choosing to play baseball

[keen belfry]

i live in MN but im a wisconsin sports fan

packers are good

[dawn talon]

i did

that was my life

[keen belfry]

bucks have giannis

[red zinc]

[keen belfry]

brewers good

badgers are decent

[red zinc]

bucks have giannis and thats it

[dawn talon]

i lived in tampa and i was a rays fan

for so long

but like i had to upgrade

[keen belfry]

we won a title this decade and thats a lot to ask for

[dawn talon]

bc the rays are so fucking unfathomably terrible

[keen belfry]

the rays were my fav team growing up idk why

[dawn talon]

W

[keen belfry]

bj/justin upton?

i dont remmeber

[red zinc]

bucks got kyle “snell” kuzma and kevin “the ethical dilemma” porter jr

[keen belfry]

your first basemen

pena

[keen belfry]

i mean we are cooked rn no cap

we will lose giannis

[red zinc]

the ethical dilemma is the funniest nickname ever

[keen belfry]

but we won a title so

[red zinc]

Sad why it exists of course

Whoever thought of it was in his bag though

[vapid sundial]

Is this just showing your highest spike

[keen belfry]

that was a dmg amp

with insane procs

first dmg amp of court

i think i had like 10 nature wolves out or osmething

[red zinc]

chekc him pc

[copper radish]

Nerf stick Inc

[keen belfry]

season 1 enhance post nerfs

was still m+ god

[wintry solar]

I wonder how flat earthers made a resurgency

[copper radish]

Because…. The earth isn’t flat? Idk

[wintry solar]

yeah

exactly

so where did they come from

[keen belfry]

whats the point of flat earth theory?

[indigo token]

ret wasnt good

[wintry solar]

oh yeah true

[indigo token]

all the flat earthers play ret now

so they dont talk about flat earth now

[vapid sundial]

I got that in a sv first pull once

[wintry solar]

yeah nvm yall we figured it out

[vapid sundial]

Had like 13-14

Hit 40m

[indigo token]

ive been playing UHDK recently

its pretty fun

[copper radish]

According to them the ocean is space and space is the ocean

[wintry solar]

yeah I like it

[mighty pivot]

wouldn't you know, since you are one?

[indigo token]

:CAUGHT:

[copper radish]

Popo def a flat earther

[wintry solar]

[indigo token]

forever guy def a flat earther

i think we all agree on that

[gaunt phoenix]

What

[indigo token]

same with you solo

[mighty pivot]

guy would call the earth flat just to be a contrarian

[wintry solar]

Green because of the color of grass thats on earth which is flat

[vapid sundial]

Yap

https://tenor.com/view/yap-gif-439564423855971269

[wintry solar]

I would do the same ngl

[ocean lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-meme-astronaut-gif-23926290

[wintry solar]

sometimes I get bored

[red zinc]

oneoss you cant be using my artwork and then making these statements

[keen belfry]

work trying to make everyone RTO

[red zinc]

Shits ruining my brand type shit

[keen belfry]

but im just outside the radius

[ocean lodge]

cringe

[vapid sundial]

Fuck yo brand

[copper radish]

@wintry solar What u gonna do when the interstellar object turns out to be aliens and they come and land on earth

[mighty pivot]

oneoss is the least cooked -oss in this chat

[red zinc]

The number is their braincell count

[vapid sundial]

The most cooked is banned anyway

[red zinc]

One still aint enough

[vapid sundial]

Cuz he had a dream

[copper radish]

OSS like the spy agency?

[wintry solar]

oh I think you know

[copper radish]

U alien gooner u

[mighty pivot]

like open source software

[vapid sundial]

Maybe oneoss is Ryu alt

[mighty pivot]

fun fact: both oneoss and zeross are ai