outlaw

[stiff glade]

I miss it

[vivid vessel]

you have nothing for p3

[random stirrup]

Yes even in p3

[fluid iron]

i did not

[vivid vessel]

ok you are playing a fight with 20 more ilvl

[stiff glade]

I like the cartoon zeross

[random stirrup]

Feint works on everything but the rings and u step them

[vivid vessel]

and 10 nerfs

[proven ocean]

Is it cuz i yapped more when i had it or idk i like ks pfp

No cappy

[gaunt phoenix]

[vivid vessel]

ye and the rings are the issue + going into hole idk

[strong halo]

[glass mortar]

ok but why isnt it glorp spree pfp

[unkempt dew]

What was the best version of outlaw you guys played? What expansion?

[fluid iron]

before it was called outlaw

[vivid vessel]

p1 dot was destroying my ass, and intermission with damage amp

i was getting one shotted aswell

[muted iron]

BFA?

[proven ocean]

My guy just said im better than the entire guild so my class is tankier

[vivid vessel]

so i played elus

and it was ok

[still matrix]

Does stone idol oversim for outlaw or is it pretty accurate?

[glass mortar]

vanilla wow, pressing SS 5 times in a row then evis (it did 60% of the mobs hp bar) was CINO

[slate forge]

Mfd necro spike peak mouse over outlaw

[vivid vessel]

i was still getting blasted in intermission damage amp tho

[proven ocean]

Ryldd honest question

[gaunt phoenix]

stone idol is good

uncapped

[proven ocean]

Did u play dimensius pre nerf

[gaunt phoenix]

damage

[proven ocean]

And kill it

Or

[lucid sandal]

First pulls on dimensius tonight wish me luck

[strong halo]

Zac got it post nerf 😎

[fluid iron]

yeah i never really felt that but TBF the strong point of the guild im currently playing with is by FAR the healers are insane

[strong halo]

Jk jk dont ban me

[vivid vessel]

i got it pre nerf

you noob

[proven ocean]

Because i dont trust anyone talking about rogue being squishy without playing the class on the hardest possible content in the game

Thats where you REALLY need

A tanky class

[copper radish]

Buffs yet or bugs

[proven ocean]

Not when ur doing 1-2 lower tier content

And complain about defensives

[slate forge]

3% dmg buff doesn’t count

[proven ocean]

When u dont even need one

In the first place

[torpid fiber]

11 delves 🙂‍↕️

[vivid vessel]

ye i mean we arent liquid ye

[strong halo]

@proven ocean do you still push m+? I haven’t seen ur stream lately

[vivid vessel]

still pre nerf

[vivid vessel]

no he is washed up

[proven ocean]

Not this season, assa is way squishier than last season in high keys and does shit dps atm

[quasi gazelle]

How set in stone is the need for 18-20% haste? Currently sitting at 17,5% and thinking should I change enchants or nah.

[vivid vessel]

play sub then

[proven ocean]

I hate sub man

Fk no

Bad dmg profile

[vivid vessel]

i know

[proven ocean]

Microwaved as hell ngl

[muted iron]

sub hates you too, dw ❤️

[vivid vessel]

ye change enchants

[strong halo]

Bro but Assas ST is like cancer as it stands in m+

[vivid vessel]

free dps

why not

300 gold

[vivid vessel]

you know what else has cancer st

[quasi gazelle]

Ok, thanks.

[fluid iron]

sub, buff it

[proven ocean]

Outlaw

[vivid vessel]

[vivid vessel]

nerf sub

[fluid iron]

buff it

[proven ocean]

zac

remmeber early season

ppl thought sub did crazy dps

little did they know it scales horribly with stats

and they scale heavily with better trinkets

[vivid vessel]

still better than outlaw

[proven ocean]

ye

agree

[glass mortar]

pretty important, if ur haste is that far under it its likely sims want u to put more haste on to get to 19% but if u try to add too much in one chunk it will look bad because anything past 19% is nearly worthless

[vivid vessel]

hm

@glass mortar

i kid you not

my dimensius kill

brought outlaw up

like 3 ranks

[glass mortar]

wtf outlaws good now

[still matrix]

hmmm okok

[proven ocean]

wtf

[vivid vessel]

isnt that kinda crazy

[glass mortar]

zac saved it

[ocean lodge]

Way to go, now we aren't getting buffed

[vivid vessel]

the way there is 2 logs so you have so much imapct

[proven ocean]

cuz u didnt do lowest dps of all classes

[jagged plover]

zac ruined it u mean

u gotta sandbag

[cinder relic]

It's not like fdk or mm/bm were weak "before gear scaling"

Lol

[proven ocean]

? ?

[cinder relic]

These specs have been op since day 1

[vivid vessel]

kinda crazy how useless wcl stats are sometimes

[proven ocean]

fdk does scale with stats very well

same with hunter

bm that is

[fluid iron]

sometimes?

[vivid vessel]

most of the times

[proven ocean]

their dmg is giga consistent

[ocean lodge]

Doesn't fdk have the best scaling

[vivid vessel]

like how sub is low on wcl while its op

agree ?

[fluid iron]

ye

[vivid vessel]

nerf sub

[fluid iron]

but still buff it

single target is dog

buff it

[proven ocean]

fdk historically had insane stats caling

[vivid vessel]

but nerf it still

[proven ocean]

because they get more procs

based on stats

[vivid vessel]

stealthi

[proven ocean]

and many other things

[vivid vessel]

how would you fix sub

you guys have wanted to have a bursty profile forever

now taht you have it

it does what it does to sub tuning

[ocean lodge]

Figured, played in in df s4 and just 5% crit was absurd

[vivid vessel]

so what

[proven ocean]

thats what ruined sub lmao

[vivid vessel]

whats the option

[proven ocean]

its so reliant on kill timers

its crazy

[glass mortar]

meh

[proven ocean]

then when kill timers giga lign up and sub does good dps

it gets nerfed

[glass mortar]

theres burst profiles almost as sharp as sub

[fluid iron]

amazing for prog so i love it

[proven ocean]

cuz it does 30% more dps

[glass mortar]

they get to do good st tho

[proven ocean]

because its "normal"

[glass mortar]

i think sub is more fucked by its scaling if anything

[vivid vessel]

you prefer it that way i assume then

[glass mortar]

but even when sub is fucked its still giga on specific fights

[proven ocean]

sub st is dogshit

[fluid iron]

yes

[proven ocean]

thats big cope

[glass mortar]

did i say sub st is good

[proven ocean]

yes u did what are u talking about

[ocean lodge]

Shoot, at least arcane does dps without surge

[glass mortar]

?

[jagged plover]

if next xpac is all damage amp memes again we're big doomered

[ocean lodge]

Sub outside if blades feels so bad

[vivid vessel]

idk if there is many specs that can do what sub does atm tho

[glass mortar]

i said there specs with burst profiles as sharp as subs

[vivid vessel]

with the aoe + st thing

[glass mortar]

but those specs still do good st

[proven ocean]

XDXDXD

[vivid vessel]

like what sub does on dimmy

[glass mortar]

so i think the "profile" thing is partially cope

[vivid vessel]

what other spec does that

[cinder relic]

People just don't understand this game

[glass mortar]

yes im talking about the specs with profiles like subs...

[fluid iron]

think the only thing thats close zac is arcane

[vivid vessel]

hm

it deosnt do burst aoe tho

[ocean lodge]

Was gonna say arcane

[vivid vessel]

it just does good prio

[proven ocean]

well

[vivid vessel]

I meant the whole sub package

nuking adds

[glass mortar]

sub st is dogshit

[vivid vessel]

while doing good prio

[proven ocean]

its more of an issue in M+ weran especially when the specs get inflated on shit fights in raids

[glass mortar]

idk if thats because its a 1.5m big burster tho

[vivid vessel]

and incredible burst

[proven ocean]

it just masks how bad they are

like outlaw

[vivid vessel]

and normal st+ in consequence

[fluid iron]

FDK, or if you are Hawwk then Havoc

[proven ocean]

like

[vivid vessel]

ye havoc maybe

[ocean lodge]

How is outlaws badness masked

[proven ocean]

if u call sub being good because it does neutral dmg vs normal classes on the best sub fight

ur giga coping

a class thats specifically designed for a specific fight has to gap

like for example

the boss before tindral

[glass mortar]

i call sub good because raid comps will literally bring a sub just to delete certain add sets or mechanics because of how sharp its profile was

[proven ocean]

forgot his name

[fluid iron]

watching him play inertia havoc on dimmy was fcking wild

[ocean lodge]

Destro on most undermine bosses

[glass mortar]

u have a very useful profile if u get brought to fights just to do that

[proven ocean]

perfect sub fight

[cinder relic]

There's more to this game than details lol

[glass mortar]

its not fun to never be on details tho

[proven ocean]

ye log in M+ and u end fights at 3m as sub its cringe

its not just about raids

it just sucks when all 3 specs are bad it is what it is

[serene brook]

I think when Araz and Netherprism trinkets like will not be in the season, sub will suck ass

[proven ocean]

sub is semi decent in raid so it doesnt matter much

[ocean lodge]

I mean that's blizzard being shit at their job at that point

[glass mortar]

i mean blizzard is always gunna make some big 1.5m or flexible on use trinket now

[ocean lodge]

There should be a buff when turbo kicks in

[fluid iron]

its just gonna get buffs

[glass mortar]

like 1/3rd of the burst profiles in the game are 1.5minute

[fluid iron]

sub will never really be bad for prog raiding

[vivid vessel]

i knida wonder if we are going full circle weran

remmeber

[proven ocean]

sub is especially good in prog

[vivid vessel]

sl 3 min

then 2 min everyone

[proven ocean]

very bursty cd

[fluid iron]

has to be severly undertuned to not be good on prog on certain fights

[glass mortar]

1.5m healthier then 2m

[proven ocean]

early gear

[vivid vessel]

then 1 min 30 (now)

[proven ocean]

pumps hard

[glass mortar]

nah i think they like the ocmmitment to 1.5/2m

[vivid vessel]

soon 1 min ?

[glass mortar]

and its healthier imo

who tf wants to wait for 3m

[quasi gazelle]

Thanks. Will try to farm the Gambit neck. That would solve the problem in the best way possible.

[ocean lodge]

2% araz wipe last week, it dies today for us.

[glass mortar]

theres already 1m bursters tho

has been for a long time

or maybe they got rid of them actually the ones i knew got reworked

either way theres still more 2m then 1.5m and i dont see them changing it

just dont go back to 3m cause

[vivid vessel]

im ready for outlaw 1min cd

[cinder relic]

The game is different when forge and prism are gone lol, it's a new expansion with new talents, hero talents, tier set, trinkets, and apex talents

[vivid vessel]

i actually have stopped fighting against it

i will embrace it when it comes

[ocean lodge]

Also the squish

[serene brook]

rets have 30 sec 😂 BMs are almost the same with cdr

[glass mortar]

i just dont see why u dont think they will always make good trinkets for bursters, 90% of the specs in this game are bursters

[ocean lodge]

Which rarely goes without casualties

[glass mortar]

and they all share similar cd profiles

1.5m/2m cd andies

[cinder relic]

Specs are only as good as the context they exist in

Without dimensius or nexus king needing burst aoe, and damage amps, sub would be bad

[ocean lodge]

Demo is one minute and has REALLY GOOD filler damage

[cinder relic]

If the Tier was 10 fractillus

[serene brook]

I mean 1-2 seasons did you see Sub often? no?

[cinder relic]

Yes?

[serene brook]

cuz no bursty stats trinkets

[fluid iron]

im fairly sure if they turn sub into a flatline spec again, im either rerolling class or im just quitting wow

[cinder relic]

Sub was good in nerubar

[vivid vessel]

what

[proven ocean]

and out of that context some of those specs suck really hard because they're inflated on those fights

[vivid vessel]

bro deosnt know

[proven ocean]

like u cant play sub in M+ atm without trolling ur grp

same for outlaw

[ocean lodge]

I feel like it could he closer to arcane without much compromise: burst af in cds, but not useless outside of it.

[proven ocean]

idk how outlaw isnt even buffed at this point

[serene brook]

im clueless as heck

[cinder relic]

I been saying ppl don't understand this game lol

[proven ocean]

its omega garbage

[vivid vessel]

sub has been the prog spec

[agile orchid]

why is sub bad now

[vivid vessel]

forever now

[serene brook]

i mean for raid yes, but for keys?

[vivid vessel]

legit every season

oh keys

[cinder relic]

Cuz hunter and dk are insanely broken

[vivid vessel]

ye sure

not kyes

[ocean lodge]

I'm hoping at this point it's coming and they're just waiting for turbo to do it right @proven ocean

[proven ocean]

im talking about M+ and it's st

[ocean lodge]

Realistically they're just bad at their job

[agile orchid]

so you're trolling if you're not playing one of the busted spec?

[random stirrup]

No

[cinder relic]

If Ur talking about pushing keys, yes, not playing the turbo broken fotm spec is "trolling" to a lot of ppl

[proven ocean]

my guy doesn't understand m+

at all

[ocean lodge]

Real trolling is losing to outlaw as bm

[random stirrup]

I only have perspective from post nerf

[serene brook]

rogues have identity crisis ngl xd

[proven ocean]

im convinced u haven't logged in last season rob

where every class was being played

[restive obsidian]

Seriously. Just play and accept being medicore or trolling

[agile orchid]

forgive me, I'm a mere mortal who doesn't push high keys

[wintry solar]

they exist and they drive on our roads

[ocean lodge]

There's no alts I'm really interested in anyway besides maybe mm/surv.

Did lock last season, I need variety

[random stirrup]

People in my guild only ever died in p3 (to non oneshot things) to getting ticked by the star during the hide, spread soak overlaps, and the post star explosion

[cinder relic]

Not really. It's just not overtuned

[random stirrup]

All of which rogue is immortal against

[restive obsidian]

Look down the peasants who reroll while you scum up high keys/high pvp . Its not a hard concept

[random stirrup]

Very very few deaths to rotting out to rings

[serene brook]

what utility rogue has for party except 1 shroud which replaced by invis potion?

[cinder relic]

What does that have to do with identity

[proven ocean]

guy u always think rogue is good enough when its fine for 3-4 fights in the entire season and its bad for 300 other fights including raid and M+

its not relaly called "class balance" anymore

[vivid vessel]

i dont think outlaw has ever been this bad tbf

since i started in sl

[cinder relic]

What does anything you said have to do with "an identity crisis"

[proven ocean]

outlaw is definitely at it's worst

[proven ocean]

didnt reply to that

[ocean lodge]

What would you do if they removed crackshot and kir

[proven ocean]

i replied to the not overtuned part

[agile orchid]

why are people hating on crackshot now

[restive obsidian]

The only part it lacks is what is outlaw supposed to be good at.

[vivid vessel]

why would they remove cracskhot

its fun

[ocean lodge]

I'm not hating on it

[cinder relic]

Sure you can change my word from not overtuned to undertuned

[proven ocean]

[agile orchid]

it's literally one of the most fun talents they came up with

[ocean lodge]

I think they will.

[cinder relic]

Rogue kinda mid rn

[fluid iron]

cuz im the dev now and i dislike it

[gaunt phoenix]

they could revert every outlaw commit since bfa and we'd still be here

[proven ocean]

outlaw was fun in bfa ngl

i enjoyed it and never complained

same with s3 DF

[vivid vessel]

i dont think the ace crackshot gameplay is going away, mayebh they change it to not relly on stealth

[proven ocean]

i enjoyed it and only complained about subt bugs

[vivid vessel]

which is fine idc

[ocean lodge]

Because dumb mfers complain about vanish in the dps rotation, and blizzard takes that complaint seriously for some reason.

[proven ocean]

cuz they were rly bad

[solemn rapids]

assa or outlaw ?

[serene brook]

they should give Sap more privileges, like only spell which doesnt involve you in combat as you passed through, remove it from DH's fear and imprisonment

[cinder relic]

Wdym blizzard takes it seriously

They've only leaned more into vanish for dps

[restive obsidian]

I hate vanish in the rotation because of solo content.

[proven ocean]

i liked the older version of outlaw but its now beyond our time anyway

[cinder relic]

Ur literally inventing a reality to get upset about

[vivid vessel]

dh fear is like blind lol

you get in combat

[covert kestrel]

Solo content is fake

[glass mortar]

realz if ur reading this i hope u make shroud a group dps cooldown

[proven ocean]

ur cooked and a half ngl

[glass mortar]

stealth is so much fun in combat i wanna share it with others

[restive obsidian]

If i didnt have bosses reset in ? ? Or other shit, i wouldnt care

[glass mortar]

💅

[cinder relic]

This is like popo complaining about vanish bugs

[vivid vessel]

[agile orchid]

they should make shroud stronger than stealth detection

[serene brook]

you actually dont

[vivid vessel]

guys cant we all be friends

[glass mortar]

[gaunt phoenix]

I mean vanish resetting kyveza is lame asf

[vivid vessel]

you dont because the dh is already in comabt

[ocean lodge]

I'm gonna dust this off on thursday

[vivid vessel]

which is how every one of these works

[serene brook]

well meld it away i guess

[proven ocean]

u clearly never played rogue when vanish was meant to be a utility which was mentioned multiple times by devs for being the way it was

[vivid vessel]

yes

[covert kestrel]

Were all insulting how cooked each other's takes are and Blizz is gonna drop the most cooked shit ever on Thursday and we're all gonna be back to being friends

[vivid vessel]

thats the saem with blind, para, hunter trap, mage poly etc

[random stirrup]

I hope they just make a new spell called super not vanish that gives you a definitely not stealth related 6 second burst window and let vanish be a second spell

[ocean lodge]

I'm not the one complaining about it!

[proven ocean]

idk why everyone just shows up pretending they played rogue for 10 years on a high level and they understand every aspect about it lol

[glass mortar]

outlawdance

[proven ocean]

ye but their complaint is valid about it

[covert kestrel]

Call it Scurvy Dance

[proven ocean]

ur memeing on it

[wintry solar]

id cry personally

[vivid vessel]

what if we had 3 charges of vanish

[proven ocean]

vanish is supposed to be a utility

[ocean lodge]

It should be OPTIONAL, not REMOVED

[gaunt phoenix]

i think they could give a damage window to killing spree, call it gun mode or what have you, gives us extra range and crackshot for a bit

[restive obsidian]

Duck the bitches who hated shadowdance

[wintry solar]

I wouldnt mind using vanish for utility if they gave us utility worth pressing for

[cinder relic]

Yeah just make finish casting ks covers you in ash which just is subterfuge

[fluid iron]

i would not be surprised if we see a sorta stealth rework

[agile orchid]

sometimes you can cancel abilities with vanish

[proven ocean]

people dont want vanish being a dps cd to be optional because whatever sims 0.1% higher will be played, it has to be a utility and thats it no one wants vanish to be deleted XD

[vivid vessel]

mfs will complani about vanish for utility and then never cast vanish for utility on sub

like

what utility buddy

[random stirrup]

Vanish being stealth is also a bit troll when you sometimes can’t press it without killing your group

[serene brook]

I want to vanish be utility only, so you can press it to save yourself from dangerous spell and so on

[wintry solar]

fr

[proven ocean]

ikr zac no cappy

[serene brook]

not to continue your burst

[jagged plover]

big heal!

[proven ocean]

zacy ziczoc

[agile orchid]

getting guaranteed full combo points

[wintry solar]

if ST CC was still king then maybe but rn Vanish is just a button that changes your action bars

[agile orchid]

they should remove CC DR from ST CC

[fluid iron]

doesent for me

[vivid vessel]

if its changes your action bars ytou are a noob

[glass mortar]

wtf

[earnest sphinx]

[cinder relic]

Zac realizing that people just like to complain

[agile orchid]

imagine if in m+ you could be responsible for locking down one mob by yourself

[cinder relic]

Finally

[serene brook]

not false

[wintry solar]

I have sap on 8

[vivid vessel]

stop doing that guy

[agile orchid]

instead of doing the cringe kick rotation streamers do

[vivid vessel]

agreeing with me

it gets me angry

stop it now

[serene brook]

just macro it in 1 button with stealth

[restive obsidian]

Angry french man cant accept happiness

[vivid vessel]

you can

[wintry solar]

I use it for pvp

[vivid vessel]

just play phys comp

we do that

phys comp without voice *

i think

[agile orchid]

ok but make it mainstream

[vivid vessel]

you make it mainstream

[agile orchid]

this could be cool rogue utility

[earnest sphinx]

Phys comp like druids exist

[vivid vessel]

be the change you wanna be in the world

[keen belfry]

zac do u have focus kidney

[still matrix]

Whats best iteration of phys comp

[keen belfry]

and what about uhhhhh

@self grapple

[glass mortar]

if u dont have every cc u have on a focus/mouseover bind r u even playing

actually maybe those are leftover from pvp for me

[keen belfry]

i dont have focus kidney

[glass mortar]

this is why u will never be him awang

🥹

[vivid vessel]

focus kidney, focus cheap shot, focus blind, self grapple, focus kick

idk what else

[keen belfry]

how often do u use cheap shot

[vivid vessel]

on sub i have 5 diff step or smth

shits crazy

[proven ocean]

[agile orchid]

self grapple?

huh

[vivid vessel]

often now

[proven ocean]

and u call urself best rogue in NA

💀

[keen belfry]

no i dont!

[vivid vessel]

because with phys comp my stops are useful

[glass mortar]

grapples the floor under u, its usually to keep knockbacks from moving u

[vivid vessel]

so i bound cheap shot this season

[proven ocean]

awang...

[vivid vessel]

[glass mortar]

altho in s1 this tech was for the most banger mouseover kick macro we/ve had

[proven ocean]

i thought u were competing to be the best...

[keen belfry]

[agile orchid]

so like a scuffed death's advance

[proven ocean]

im disappointed..no cappy..

[ocean lodge]

Why is zeross pretending to be an outlaw player

[agile orchid]

big tech

[fluid iron]

i tell my premade tank that he gets 1x cheapshot from a key when i play sub

[keen belfry]

i am the goat

[fluid iron]

if i need to press it more

[proven ocean]

played outlaw more than you'll ever do bozo

[fluid iron]

its jesus take the wheel

[proven ocean]

[vivid vessel]

i wouldnt press cheap as sub

[ocean lodge]

Kekw

[vivid vessel]

but as outlaw idm

[fluid iron]

i aint pressing it again

[glass mortar]

u could @self grapple with a shadowstep kick macro to instantly shadowstep kick something and be grappling in midair back to where u stepped from

that thing was so funny in pvp

looked like scripting

[vivid vessel]

i still need to train myself to press cheap instead of kidney tho

sometimes i will jsut kidney

[gaunt phoenix]

macro them together

[vivid vessel]

when i could cheap

[vivid vessel]

ye i thought about that

but idk

[cinder relic]

This channel sometimes

[serene brook]

ultimate macro for stealth all specs xd
/cancelaura [nocombat] Shadow Dance
/cast !Stealth
/cast Pick Pocket
/stopcasting
/cast [mod:alt, target=focus] Sap
/cast [nomod] Sap

[vivid vessel]

took youi long enough to get your meme

you getting old

[proven ocean]

XDXD

zac

ur the most cooked guy in this channel sometimes

agree or

[vivid vessel]

no agree

[keen belfry]

i do swear guy agrees with our takes more often than he likes to bellieve, he just hates this channel

[fluid iron]

i will not speak i think im older

[keen belfry]

stealthi >30?

[proven ocean]

Nice

Wait

U mean

Agree

Or no agree

[vivid vessel]

i think its just me he hates

[proven ocean]

?

[keen belfry]

meow and targetcapped

[vivid vessel]

nah no way

[wintry solar]

Guy needs to put out a tier list

[cinder relic]

I'm at work bro fuck you

[ocean lodge]

You ARE the outlaw channel though

[vivid vessel]

[ocean lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-i-am-the-senate-gif-10270130

[cinder relic]

When u at work and they ask u to do work

[proven ocean]

Zac

Who do u think is the most cooked guy here

[tired rune]

sounds made up

[fluid iron]

im close to 30

[proven ocean]

Apart from me cuz im the most based of

Ofc

[fluid iron]

is all ill say

[vivid vessel]

guy

[proven ocean]

Based wtf

[serene brook]

Zero cant accept the fact, zac is better than him

[proven ocean]

Zac who

[vivid vessel]

wtf..

[jolly geyser]

Efron

[vivid vessel]

bro old af

stealthi

close to 30

[still matrix]

boomer hands

[fluid iron]

2nd best outlaw after wox

[vivid vessel]

above or

under

[vivid vessel]

[quiet root]

this is why we don't have j*bs here

[fluid iron]

xD

[vivid vessel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1384149071106932799/1387523703100674100/togif-3.gif

[proven ocean]

As much as i meme on zac but this is microwaved as hell

[strong halo]

Wym I’m working right now

[fluid iron]

did you not see me type "is all ill say"

[proven ocean]

Like not even top 3 NA is in top 10 outlaw world list

[vivid vessel]

bro ..

[fluid iron]

im just jumping on the bandwagon

[proven ocean]

💀

[fluid iron]

ive got no idea who wox is lmfao

[proven ocean]

True true

[fluid iron]

i just read outlaw sometimes and see them meme'ing zac with him

[fluid iron]

i am below 30 tho

[ocean lodge]

I love the idea of the worst spec in the game just conquering leaderboards for no explicable reason.

[vivid vessel]

oh thats fine then

me too

[fluid iron]

but im getting close its not good

gonna retire from the work force before i turn 30 ong

just live off, of renting out apartments ong

[ocean lodge]

Yeah, imagine being 30 that would suck

[fluid iron]

cba working

[vivid vessel]

Wox team is litteraly the only established team in the world

Like

[ocean lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-bryan-cranston-sad-despair-gif-25732605

[serene brook]

I'm 30

[vivid vessel]

I'm not aware of any other team

That has played

Together

For as long as them

All the time

That's the reason

[copper radish]

Buffs yet? Alpha notes yet?

[keen belfry]

yeah they love eachother its so cute

[copper radish]

Welcome to the club

[ocean lodge]

Wait I haven't been paying attention did wox leap ahead recently

[vivid vessel]

no

im just saying thats why

[indigo token]

https://stupidpenisx.com/Cindtrillella/status/1957230119984255404

𝒮𝒾𝑒. ᡣ𐭩 (@Cindtrillella)

Tyler Perry starting off his movie with an abusive marriage:

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 17, 2025, 11:56 PM

[vivid vessel]

he is always there

[ocean lodge]

Oh, I know that

Wox is a gamer

[indigo token]

blizzard starting off every beta cycle with dogshit rogue changes

[vivid vessel]

and thats why im there now

banger team

with insane players

that stick together

hope it last as long as wox team

[tropic zephyr]

also you guys put yourself in a situation where no nonverbal incidents can happen

so

[fluid iron]

im the one that broke my team apart xD

[ocean lodge]

Shocking

[fluid iron]

cuz i didn't wanna play anymore

[tropic zephyr]

[vivid vessel]

i think its quite good btw

cause i know it would get a bit flammy on voice sometimes

[quiet root]

it's also because zac/wox refuse to swap off outlaw for the most part, when many other dps players will just play the best spec in their class (or even switch classes)

[proven ocean]

Any other team they disband insta

[vivid vessel]

ye

[proven ocean]

After 1-2 seasons

U see new ppl

Except echo

[tropic zephyr]

yeah i def play different/react different with or without voice

[vivid vessel]

i think kira is a good example of the complete opposite

[proven ocean]

Echo is relatively a solid team that never changes

[vivid vessel]

he has been on top forever

[proven ocean]

Ye he replaces ppl all the time

[vivid vessel]

but its never the same players

[proven ocean]

He only plays with yarrgi

[serene brook]

poor meta slaves

[vivid vessel]

i feel like the healer is there to stay aswell

wipyp?

[proven ocean]

He isnt always at the top tho

[vivid vessel]

whats the name

[proven ocean]

He gets cooked hard when the chinese play

And we beat the chinese last season sometimes

But they’re playing meta classes so we couldn’t out io them

We were 1 key away tho

Then tank disappeared for 3 days

[quiet root]

i feel like "on top" doesn't have to literally mean rank 1

they can just be one of the top teams

[proven ocean]

Well ig i mean alot of teams are r1

[errant canopy]

are we talking buffs to the current state of outlaw or midnight alfa

[proven ocean]

R1 aka like

[vivid vessel]

thats what imeant

[proven ocean]

Top 3 teams

[vivid vessel]

like top 5 team or smth

[proven ocean]

Ya

[copper radish]

Anything idc at this point lmao

[errant canopy]

lmao same but at the same time I'm afraid that they will remake outlaw in midnight and ruin the class

[serene brook]

killing spree goes brrrrrrrr

[copper radish]

Get ur guns ready

[wicked jacinth]

I have vers + mastery neck (crafted)
should i recraft it haste vers or crit vers with current stats?
cant rly check in raidbots cuz i cant seem to make a proper item in the "item search" section

[cinder relic]

You could try being optimistic

Manifest good things

Look at how op and fun every spec is after a rework

[covert kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-possible-it's-very-possible-perhaps-googas-gif-12644615660336645261

[quiet root]

as long as they keep the fast pace i don't mind what they do to the rest of the spec

[errant canopy]

you could try not being on my ass all the time

[serene brook]

"when we added 3rd half range spec for DH, we really enjoyed it and decided to make more specs like this, so meet THE NEW OUTLAW!"

[tropic zephyr]

We getting the HOTS guy to look at law so everything is possible

I'm optimistic tho

[ocean lodge]

Yeah that'd be ridiculous.

(They're totally going to do it)

[errant canopy]

would you trade the fast/fun kinda complex gameplay to be really strong?

[ocean lodge]

Fuck no.

[errant canopy]

agreed

[still matrix]

yes

[ocean lodge]

If you want easy just play HO

[covert kestrel]

Numbers are temporary, playstyle is eternal

[errant canopy]

hell ye brother

[ocean lodge]

Outlaw actually has the easy vs hard dichotomy

So idk why it's even a problem

[daring oxide]

good energy i like this

[covert kestrel]

It's not like any of us are here for the rich class fantasy so if it plays badly who would stay

[daring oxide]

i wish everyone was excited, happy and joyous our outlaw reworks are only 2 days away

[keen belfry]

rogue boots yuh!

[ocean lodge]

Watch them break the class but KS still random targets

[daring oxide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231784709634265128/1375971942720602233/image0.gif

[gaunt phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-lick-kedikizx-gif-1539313334602174067

[vivid vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-water-gif-19744162

[wintry solar]

Midnight rework, buffs or bugs? call it

[jolly geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-it's-peak-cat-it's-coal-its-peak-its-mid-gif-12295099395828911145

[quiet root]

https://tenor.com/view/sound-the-car-alarm-cat-gif-9895924581726852336

[errant canopy]

i wish there was a killing spree glyph where it made us breakdance

[daring oxide]

enough being sad and upset

i swear if we all be happy and cheerful

we will energize realz with omega cooking abilities

[covert kestrel]

Save it for thursday

[daring oxide]

so chins up

[ocean lodge]

Most classes get simplified, the floor is lower, and so is the ceiling.

[daring oxide]

look at BM hunter rework

[ocean lodge]

That's my call

[daring oxide]

it went from toilet paper class to golden crayon spec doing a billion damage with one button

that could be us too

[still matrix]

Inb4 we are the new melee bm hunter

[ocean lodge]

I don't want to top damage if it means losing crackshot

[errant canopy]

nice two button rotation

[daring oxide]

i mean

we only press two buttons yeah

BTE and SS

[wintry solar]

maybe this iwll be good for outlaw

[daring oxide]

3 if you are a HO

[ocean lodge]

NO

[wintry solar]

dude

I gotta show you something hold on

youre gonna hate it

[ocean lodge]

Us in 2 days:

[errant canopy]

they already made stealth reset the CD of BTS, easiest class in the game now

BTE

[ocean lodge]

Maybe shorter if press releases stuff before that

[quiet root]

i like the fact that you can one-trick this spec and still not be able to play it flawlessly

[gaunt phoenix]

They will nuke both fatebound and trickster iterations and we get reworked trees

[daring oxide]

we are the cat and the dev is jesus on thursday:

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ai-hug-cat-jesus-hug-cat-ai-gif-3164886642376333242

[quiet root]

fun to have room for improvement

[ocean lodge]

Can we ban vai

[jolly geyser]

this fuckin gif

[vivid vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-lebron-james-meme-funny-gif-3425517799009042574

[errant canopy]

scariest shit i've seen in my life

[glass mortar]

all 3 rogue trees r more halfbaked then the hero talents they spent like 3 seasons reworking this expac so

i could see it unironically

[ocean lodge]

We can't ban zac so can we ban Vai twice

[glass mortar]

they dont need to be fully scrapped (maybe fatebound culd xd) but they definitly need some love

[daring oxide]

I hope so, they need to rework Fatebound into Swashbucker and Trickster into Pistoleer

[errant canopy]

fatebound is such a snooze hero spec

[glass mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-ai-lebron-james-lebron-lebron-ai-gif-5792462131339945126

[daring oxide]

Pistoleer will replace SS with a pistol ability and we become a full time 25 yard range spec

[vivid vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-ai-lebron-james-lebron-lebron-ai-gif-5792462131339945126

[vivid vessel]

wtf

[gaunt phoenix]

If they want to cut weakauras/complexity then trickster is going to change

[glass mortar]

BOZO

EY

[vivid vessel]

i was looking for it

ahah

[ocean lodge]

I would go as far to say fatebound is the worst hero tree in the game

In terms of theme

[agile orchid]

and buffs in just 3 days

[daring oxide]

ya bye bye fucking unseen blades

[daring oxide]

2 days right

[ripe ibex]

did this actually happen

[glass mortar]

idk about worst

[gaunt phoenix]

Yes

[ocean lodge]

What's worse

[agile orchid]

friday

[serene brook]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ai-gun-ai-slop-wizard-gif-9190571583879225085

[glass mortar]

its down there tho like the baseline idea of the theme is fine but the way it plays out the theme is uh

[daring oxide]

Thursday

[ocean lodge]

Aside deathstalker rogue hero trees are so terrible themewise

[glass mortar]

not my cup of tea for sure

[ocean lodge]

Deathstalker is like the one that fits

[agile orchid]

thursday they will be busy with setting up the alpha

[errant canopy]

outlaw deathstalker

[glass mortar]

we have all these procs and nonsense that are clear rng rolls in ur rotation as outlaw

and u name a tree fatebound

and then it 99% is about a new rng coin flip it adds instead of just impacting ur core rng elements

idk about that choice

[daring oxide]

Ye but Thursday we'll see our midnight buffs and rework, that we have access to at midnight (expansion release date next year december 2026)

until then

[ocean lodge]

Yeah that's what I mean though. The name fits but the coin flip shit is stupid

[glass mortar]

i mean i do know

[daring oxide]

outlaw in the (reworked dont come back bin)

[glass mortar]

they had to make it work for sin and outlaw

[wintry solar]

https://youtu.be/VjYGetutbD0?si=1XlCl7PyGM2wZjXD&t=1225

[glass mortar]

and theres so little overlap between those two specs

[wintry solar]

theres a chance

it all depends on what blizz thinks

[daring oxide]

i mean its practically guaranteed

[still matrix]

So tmmrw they are announcing reworks?

Or just general midn8ght shit

[wintry solar]

Its timestamped

[errant canopy]

imagine ghostly strike being removed

[ocean lodge]

Alpha is Thursday so we find out soon either way

[copper radish]

What’s the cliff notes

[wintry solar]

at 20 mins 25 seconds in

[cinder relic]

Not watching that movie

[wintry solar]

hear what he has to say gah damn

[cinder relic]

Grok can you summarize it for me?

[copper radish]

Popo summarize it

[wintry solar]

its like 30 seconds

[copper radish]

Popo is grok for us rn

[wintry solar]

okay hold on

[daring oxide]

Grok: Outlaw rework 2nd October big stuff

[copper radish]

Vai I don’t wanna see nothing except for a confirmation of changes lmao

[agile orchid]

you guys really expect a rework

[copper radish]

I need receipts

[daring oxide]

again its not my fault if blizzard chooses to dither and delay outlaw's promised salvations

[errant canopy]

Grok: Killing Spree is now a 28 minute channel

[agile orchid]

when historically rogue was an afterthought on ptr

[copper radish]

$20 changes don’t come until the last iteration of alpha or the first one of beta

[serene brook]

so much

[copper radish]

Or if they do have changes they aren’t complete and outlaws unplayable lmao

[errant canopy]

When is Mid-night coming anyway like early 2026?

[daring oxide]

like how hunters have one melee spec and two ranged, outlaw will become the ranged spec and other two will be melee

[ocean lodge]

Remember when everyone complained about rogue soloing and their solution was slightly longer stuns

[copper radish]

Prob March ish

[cinder relic]

Literally what are u talking about

Why do u constantly do this thing

Where you invent a narrative and then get upset at a change

[ocean lodge]

At the start of tww

[copper radish]

Couldn’t kidney be like 9seconds in legion?

[cinder relic]

No

[daring oxide]

hes one of those misinformation agents that manipulate the viewpoints of the depressed outlaw crowd

[cinder relic]

It was wod

[daring oxide]

while emotions are fragile

[cinder relic]

It was wod where u could 9 second kidney people

[granite quarry]

waiting for the outlaw tank rework myself, dunno about you guys

[vapid sundial]

If you're taking about the pvp changes I can guarantee you almost none of us care here

[copper radish]

Yeah that was crazy who thought that was a good idea at blizz lmao

[ocean lodge]

It didn't affect pvp so no lul

[glass mortar]

it did in wod

[keen belfry]

@vivid vessel how can i make a weakaura that triggers when feast is down, for my raiders hwo always miss the feast

[ocean lodge]

I don't mean wod

:L

[glass mortar]

for a short time period

[vapid sundial]

Just make it flash when missing x buff?

[glass mortar]

i mean on live they buffed our stuns because holy fuk is the rogue utility kit dated for modern dungeons

[vapid sundial]

Probably one on Google already

[copper radish]

U talking kidney cooldown from 25 to 35 seconds?

[wintry solar]

"We're looking at classes, we're looking at what we're asking you to do. Sometimes it can be a little too much right? We recognize some classes are harder to play than others and while some players really like that skill expression, I think like.. we're like... maybe getting to the tipping point for a lot of these. And we want to look at how we can make classes more approachable and feel like anyone can kinda pick it up and play it. While still having that skill expression for players who love that 'easy to learn - hard to master' part of World Of Warcraft."

[glass mortar]

it took until TWW for them to even give us a singular aoe stop

[serene brook]

https://wago.io/0xt34LQhc

[glass mortar]

while theyve been handing them out for years to other classes because thats the direction m+ has taken the game

our ST stuns needed a buff for sure

[copper radish]

Dev said a whole
Bunch of nothing in a lot of words

[vivid vessel]

can send when i get home

[glass mortar]

not sure st stuns in general are strong enough util still in m+ but

[vivid vessel]

you look for chat messagesd

it says in chat

weak aura can read chat

or combat log

[ocean lodge]

Sometime either during or before season one they made cheap shot like a second longer in pve, and the core complaint cited was rogue soloing

[copper radish]

Bro just talked to talk 😭

[vivid vessel]

both can be done

[daring oxide]

positivity please

[cinder relic]

Rogue overall didn't get a large set of sweeping changes going into tww because it just got changes last season of df. Mostly small scale stuff like the supercharger, like death perception, like killing spree.

Classes usually get reworked or get large sweeping changes in turns, rogue is sort of due since the last set of larger, sweeping changes was during s3 dragonflight

[glass mortar]

i feel like outlaw at least got some fairly big changes going into DF even

[vapid sundial]

Tbh just delete rogue

[glass mortar]

HO and kir were pretty big

[wintry solar]

I dont think you actually read it. Did you expect them to explicitly say theyre reworking outlaw?

[copper radish]

My glass is halfway idk if it’s half full or half empty tho 🤷‍♂️

[copper radish]

Yes

[ocean lodge]

S3 was pretty big for outlaw in df

[glass mortar]

and the playstyle changed around dance and vanish quite a bit. then s3 had even bigger changes

[wintry solar]

this guy

[cinder relic]

Well every spec got huge things in df

[daring oxide]

what did we get

[glass mortar]

yea idr sub or sin s1 so i wont comment

[daring oxide]

the double coup bug tbh which became a tier set later

[glass mortar]

i thought rogue itself got big changes going into df, and then again in s3

[daring oxide]

that was good like

[copper radish]

We got 🪙

[ashen bronze]

Do you guys think the rogue rework will make outlaw into tanks?

[errant canopy]

I enjoy telling my BM friend that I am infact the big brain out of the two of us while doing 3m less overall than him
Hope to keep it that way 👍

[ocean lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-price-is-right-a-new-car-game-show-prize-win-a-car-gif-17780839

[copper radish]

🪙

[daring oxide]

new KS (first iteration)

[vivid vessel]

@cinder relic nice tweet bro, sorry i saw it late, at work

[daring oxide]

in the right direction

[vapid sundial]

Wait new guy tweet?

Sheeeit

[serene brook]

remember SnD? U had to press it by urself not long ago

[copper radish]

I did more overall in a 10 last night on my outlaw over a BM. My season is complete lmaoooo

[glass mortar]

wait wtf wher tweet

zac link???

[cinder relic]

The talent tree changes in DF were huge for every spec in the game

[ocean lodge]

We joked about this earlier

[errant canopy]

actually more impressive than 4k rio

[cinder relic]

https://x.com/ForeverGuy5/status/1973028082018898309?t=YvEnSU7wPJ37VSd1P1LYqA&s=19

ForeverGuy (@ForeverGuy5)

It's actually sickening that this entire expansion has been hunter being in an okay spot, gets an undeserved 10% buff and then is literal thanos

I'm being so for real, they need to nerf bm and mm these specs are just playing with cheat codes.

X · Sep 30, 2025, 2:12 PM

[glass mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[vapid sundial]

The funny thing is they did this same thing for enhance season 1

[jolly geyser]

nah its this

[copper radish]

Guy the OG Hunter hater 😆

[ocean lodge]

It's like the meme with the dude singing, then it smash cuts to the dude sweating his balls off and stressing

[vapid sundial]

Payphone

[copper radish]

I wanna see Guy on a BM alt smashing buttons enjoying the fk outta the damage 😆

[errant canopy]

I made one of those about me and my BM friend

[ocean lodge]

Link it

[daring oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-supernova-super-truth-nova-true-morgan-freeman-sephiroth-gif-4644219165557616305

[glass mortar]

pretty sure frost dk/blood dk had damage variance (due to deathbringer) similar to current MMs and it was enough for the to kneecap the hero talent for a season

cause they realized it wasnt healthy

[long barn]

Does it matter what we are targeting in dungeons to get the most of this trinket? Like should we be targeting low health stuff?

[jolly geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHTsaJRai24

[copper radish]

Hot

[daring oxide]

target low targets

[ocean lodge]

Fuck hunters, but I think dark ranger is pretty cool >.>

[cinder relic]

It's hunter literally every tier this expansion

It's insane

[copper radish]

It’s been Hunter since TBC

[glass mortar]

yea i mean

[cinder relic]

Undeserved buff into thanos Jesus

[daring oxide]

Guy its cos most subscribers so best money value

[long barn]

does that also scale the dmg to BF too?

[glass mortar]

i get they wanna focus on certain specs at a time

[daring oxide]

if they giga buff hunters

[glass mortar]

with like a team effort

[daring oxide]

more people play game longer

[ocean lodge]

There it is

[glass mortar]

cooking mage/hunter/shaman every season this expac tho

[cinder relic]

This isn't why because why is paladin unpalayble in mythic raiding for the past 500 years

Why is warlock op every season

[daring oxide]

paladin is special case

[cinder relic]

Nobody plays warlock

[jagged plover]

fuck warlocks

[glass mortar]

direct damage trinkets do not interact with BF

[cinder relic]

Why is balance so dogshit

The spec

[long barn]

ty

[indigo token]

they use ai

[vivid vessel]

wtf

guy dooming ?

[long barn]

Are we getting buffed yet?

[indigo token]

theyve actually had ai since 2004

[vivid vessel]

its so over guys

[copper radish]

Wowhead stats**

[daring oxide]

im recording this

a guy doom

my favourite

[vivid vessel]

take screenshots

[cinder relic]

No i'm just saying popularity has no impact on balance

[vivid vessel]

too late

sceeenshotted

[glass mortar]

balance is a dart board

[vivid vessel]

will be brought out back again out of context

[glass mortar]

the more dps specs ur class has the more often u end up as the meta

anything else is copium

i stand by this as i always have

[vivid vessel]

guy complaining about tuning, 2025 colorized

[copper radish]

Pin it

[cinder relic]

LOL

[daring oxide]

it feels good when guy agrees with us

[cinder relic]

I think actual spec balance is actually good this tier (for raiding)

Except the bm buff

Just Nerf every hunter spec by 10% every tier

[daring oxide]

we didnt see that

[cinder relic]

Broken ass class man

[copper radish]

Outlaws at the bottom we need like middle to top

[cinder relic]

What if we made a melee dps, Ranged

And then also gave it a 20% buff every week

Fuck you

[copper radish]

I wanna be able to say in midnight “wow outlaw is fucking busted”

[glass mortar]

at least mm has like 1 spell they stand still for

bm

i will not speak

[copper radish]

We will be there one day soon boys. OUTLAW IS GONNA BE BUSTED

[vapid sundial]

Your mother

[daring oxide]

Outlaw rework leaks from early alpha gamer guy?

[copper radish]

I been saying. Outlaws gonna be mid ranged. Just watch. Devourer counterpart

[serene brook]

nerfed to the ground next day hotfix

[copper radish]

Devourer gets int we get agility

[daring oxide]

then we got the acro we've always wanted right

[copper radish]

Yassssss back to ranged melee pls god

[daring oxide]

25 yard radius blade flurry (renamed Gun Flurry)

[copper radish]

I miss me 11-13 yard melee range

[wintry solar]

will our weapons just be for show?

[copper radish]

Could stand out of so much shit in SL keys with ranged melee

[serene brook]

still 8 target cap tho

[daring oxide]

thats fine tune us like thanos at least

[wintry solar]

yall

uhuh is here to stay

yall win

[daring oxide]

good

[wintry solar]

ugh

[daring oxide]

no qq

[vapid sundial]

Atleast bm has to SOMEWHAT position bc of how black arrow aoe works

[wintry solar]

not good

wdym

[vapid sundial]

About it.

[copper radish]

See u in the last expansion of the trilogy

[glass mortar]

brother thats the biggest cope i ever seent

i never seen a bm player put any effort into positioning in m+

including the ones doing 11m overall

[vapid sundial]

Nah I just don't understand what the obsession with cones is

Enh / bm

Cones

Fucking hate aoe cones

[glass mortar]

aoe cones r the best aoe design

survival proves it to me

[copper radish]

When I play BM I stand still and spam buttons

[glass mortar]

u just gotta do it right

[vapid sundial]

Garbanzo

[wintry solar]

you probably wont

[errant canopy]

crash lightning is so dope

[vapid sundial]

Also, says you. I am.

[serene brook]

BM AND POSITIONING

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1037756910247608341/1204933369029464084/Medal_aEIjG2AIWo.gif?ex=68dd11e5&is=68dbc065&hm=19293457bfe13ae399604fdfe4d34fe30f19e5a3d883e32498f002a3e2358291&

[cinder relic]

Bm is just fundamentally the best spec in the game and then it's also easy, and then it's also op

[copper radish]

LMAOOOO

[glass mortar]

i just dont respect it

i dont respect the niche of "40 yard range melee spec"

[copper radish]

Just turtle that off gg

[vapid sundial]

I never said respect it

I'm just saying it could be even worse

[glass mortar]

its not a niche that should exist

[vapid sundial]

[copper radish]

3 buttons rotation and 2 buffs. 1-5 keybound. Nothing else

[glass mortar]

yea i dont rlly believe the positioning thing, maybe thats like a 2% minmax or something

[copper radish]

Pack leader the most simplest shit to play lol

[glass mortar]

certainly not relevant in raid

[random geyser]

the way fights are designed melee should be more dps or ranged shouldnt have as much burst

[glass mortar]

or if it is our bm has never mentioned it nor attempted to play around it

[vapid sundial]

Raid is for losers anyway

[glass mortar]

and they certainly do fine

[copper radish]

Why raid when mythic track from easier keys

[errant canopy]

hell ye (I wish I was curved)

[vapid sundial]

Wtf Is cruved

[ocean lodge]

Spymaster is why I didn't make any caster alts in s1 after my mage lol

[vapid sundial]

I fell out of love with raiding the past few tiers

[errant canopy]

no idea what you're talking about

[vapid sundial]

Judt bent shit after shit

Frfr

[glass mortar]

yea this tier broke raiding for me

cool raid and every moment of it was awful as outlaw

[twilit relic]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[glass mortar]

but im at a low point in time to play wow so i just called it for the season

just do delves and keys in the moments i have

[daring oxide]

Shall we play Arc Raiders

together

[vapid sundial]

How do u think I feel.

I gave up on outlaw and just play whatever

[daring oxide]

I still love Outlaw

And still play

[glass mortar]

normally id do that but i dont have time ot gear multiple toons for mythic raid this season

[cinder relic]

This had been the first Tier in like literally 6 years where ranged is better on average

I think it's okay for ranged to have a tier

[copper radish]

I played BM for a week and I found myself back on outlaw. I can’t stay away

[daring oxide]

I think everyone should become a ranged spec

[vapid sundial]

I can. I hate kir.