#outlaw

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quaint mauve
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my first interaction with mewo he called me a fat stupid donkey and cursed the rest of my life bc i talked about having 60% adr and asking when i should press it

worldly sinew
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I mean thats cool. I'm the Autistc Outlaw, the cooked guy. It is what it is. I'm just chasing Zac forever

covert kestrel
worldly sinew
frail veldt
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all our moms took tylenol

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lets be honest

quaint mauve
frail veldt
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some took tylenol PM so theyre only autistic at night

worldly sinew
keen belfry
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pic of my mom during my pregnancy

ocean lodge
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The autism announcement thing has no right being as funny as it is.

frail veldt
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I mean

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how could it not be with images like this

worldly sinew
frail veldt
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idk if this is against discord rules ill take it down if it is

ocean lodge
worldly sinew
tender wedge
covert kestrel
tender wedge
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does that explain everything?

serene brook
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hey boys, send gif with "arcane speaking" please pepe_nice

worldly sinew
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I mean, it gives Gary Bucey(sp?) yknow

ocean lodge
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They said tylonel causes autism with zero evidence, hence the pic above lol

glass mortar
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Where is som I havent seen him since I went on vacation

floral compass
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I remember Coup de Grace dashing you to the target a while back (like blade rush ig) when did they change that?

frail veldt
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he gooned too hard

ocean lodge
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Did it used to dash

glass mortar
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ah fuk

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I assumed it would happen sooner or later

frail veldt
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I think he made a very bad taste charlie kirk joke

glass mortar
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🫑

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Oooo boy

frail veldt
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yeah

ocean lodge
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I was a deathstalker sin enjoyer in s1

frail veldt
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like day of

glass mortar
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I can imagine

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Yea coup charged

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In s1

frail veldt
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poor guy I liked him

ocean lodge
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Chad way to go tbh

glass mortar
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Maybe they removed it in s1 also but I dont know because nobody law was playing trickster in s1

frail veldt
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they removed it

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cuz I played it s1

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in pvp

floral compass
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Would have been nice to have a choice node to choose if u want the dash or not, think monk had that on their palm strike for abit? Lowkey liked the dash was cool xD int in some content though

glass mortar
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Kk

frail veldt
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the dash wash cool yeah

ocean lodge
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There's a lot of things that should be choice nodes

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Like auto thistle

cinder relic
silver venture
glass mortar
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I thought it was s1

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Either way

frail veldt
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damn really

glass mortar
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It did originally dash yes.

frail veldt
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I thought it was s2

covert kestrel
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was it the same time they fixed the original coup bug

frail veldt
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but yeah it was def there for a while in s1

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cuz I for sure played it in pvp

cinder relic
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I mean they got rid of dust, and added supercharger, and death perception for sub in a mid season patch too

frail veldt
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oh wow

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thats wild

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so what youre saying is

ocean lodge
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Didn't supercharge replace ER

frail veldt
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outlaw rework 0.5 patch

frail veldt
ocean lodge
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I'd rather have er than flag ngl

cinder relic
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Delusion

covert kestrel
covert kestrel
red zinc
ocean lodge
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Bonespike was the best covenant ability, I will hear no counterarguments.

red zinc
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switched philosophy since

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flag with the legendary was lit

frail veldt
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SC goes hard as sub

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its just free damage

tired rune
frail veldt
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ER was nice as outlaw cuz it was bad luck protection

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it meant when you werent getting ss procs

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you could use those low cps

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it was kinda nice

covert kestrel
floral compass
tired rune
covert kestrel
wintry solar
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a fuckin brain tumer is what you got

covert kestrel
wintry solar
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black ops 6 is more fun than outlaw tbh

tired rune
covert kestrel
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The nice thing is that if they fuck outlaw up in midnight then ill have more time for other games cause i dont think any other spec will keep me around

keen belfry
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casualaddict playing hutner now

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nice

tender wedge
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arent we all?

wintry solar
keen belfry
copper radish
untold current
covert kestrel
keen belfry
red zinc
tender wedge
keen belfry
frail veldt
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no role modelz

red zinc
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uh uh its grippy !

frail veldt
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and im here

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right now

copper radish
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I went with an original hunter name. I’m a dwarf. So it’s Huntindwarfs. All my pets the same name too πŸ˜‚

keen belfry
red zinc
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what position did you play

frail veldt
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haha its a good song ngl

tired rune
keen belfry
tired rune
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why play rogue

red zinc
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sneaky athletic

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first in last out

keen belfry
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grinder

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i could grab rim

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nbd

red zinc
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MODS look up his high school stats

spare lake
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Love some good rim

red zinc
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"Awang Awang - Shooting Guard"

copper radish
spare lake
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πŸ‘€

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πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ 🀨 βš”οΈ

wintry solar
quaint mauve
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best bow in the game btw

copper radish
quaint mauve
wintry solar
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nope

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try again

keen belfry
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@red zinc I was called for a foul here

frail veldt
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are you the one getting elbowed in the face?

keen belfry
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yes

frail veldt
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rofl

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rip

wintry solar
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I can take em

frail veldt
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I had the most ejections in the entire league in water polo hahahahah

red zinc
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he the trae young prototype

covert kestrel
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i reject this, awang is asian in my head canon

covert kestrel
frail veldt
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I played defense on the main point scorer

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so

junior coral
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we give up on hoping for buffs tomorrow lmao?

frail veldt
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it kinda came with the position

frail veldt
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I was whole D

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hole D

copper radish
frail veldt
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idk ive never typed it out

covert kestrel
frail veldt
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its hole I just looked it up

quaint mauve
frail veldt
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yeah haha

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water polo was fun

quaint mauve
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i do the coolest sport of all

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yall would never guess

frail veldt
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are you gona say fencing

quaint mauve
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high jump

covert kestrel
keen belfry
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epee

frail veldt
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I dont miss swimming though lol

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I did that year round it was awful

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never again

covert kestrel
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yeah that was buns

frail veldt
quaint mauve
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...

frail veldt
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haha

red zinc
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im playin beach volleyball now

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no ulterior motives

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i promise

frail veldt
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LOL

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coed im guessing?

red zinc
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naw just had friends doing it but

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lotta guys wearing short shorts

lime lake
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say more

frail veldt
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skies out thighs out

covert kestrel
red zinc
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dawg my first tournament i played

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someone stepped on a ball from a different court

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like fully stepped

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that bone was not attached anymore dawg holy fuck

frail veldt
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yiiiiiiikes

covert kestrel
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idk if i have anything left in there

red zinc
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i have had no injuries playing sports

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only broke collar bone skiing one time

copper radish
frail veldt
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ive never broken a bone >.>

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knock on wood

red zinc
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no i was just built very wide

copper radish
frail veldt
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my bones are dense

red zinc
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like i was still normal weight when i was younger

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just built like a tank

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literally couldnt get injured

lime lake
frail veldt
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lots of milk and weightlifting I think im safe

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my ligaments are fucked though

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torn a ligament in my ankle, rotator cuff, knee injury from climbing

lime lake
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ive broken an arm and two fingers

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fortunately no ligament damage tho

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barely even rolled an ankle

frail veldt
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I cant even count how many times ive rolled my ankle

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like hundreds

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at least

copper radish
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Outlaw must be so bad rn that we don’t even talk about rogue anymore

elder phoenix
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how heavy do you have to be to hurt your ankles

gentle sky
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shoud i use Nightfall Curseblade's Cudgel ilvl 678 in m+ on aoe over 720 ilvl?

lime lake
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you can be a twig and hurt your ankle just by stepping wrong

lime lake
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ive seen some nasty shit

frail veldt
gentle sky
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8 target no raid buffs ? 1m or ?

frail veldt
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like 170-175lbs 6 foot

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just bad ankles ig

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I mean if you step in a ditch

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how do you not roll your ankle

elder phoenix
frail veldt
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cudgel beats myth track offhand at 5+ targets

copper radish
quaint mauve
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this piece of shit man haha

stiff vector
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I fucked my ankle real bad when I was like 20 trying to dunk at like 5'8 200lbs, basically landed on an uneven part of the ground and rolled tf out of my ankle

elder phoenix
stiff vector
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almost completely tore 3 ligaments, just barely didnt need surgery HOLY

frail veldt
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for me its always something stuid like stepping on a pine cone or somet shit

elder phoenix
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oh yeah you got an achievement, but do you have pink parses?

frail veldt
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I mean tbf theres a lot of people with mythic achieves and very bad logs

quaint mauve
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hof since SL

frail veldt
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more of a dedication thing

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imo

elder phoenix
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Im not saying hes bad. Im not even aiming this at him

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Im just saying in general

frail veldt
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I mean both is impressive

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neither on their own is very impressive

elder phoenix
quaint mauve
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i think hof achieve talks on its own

elder phoenix
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instead of achievement lol

frail veldt
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also depending on when you kill a boss

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you can get a 100 parse on a less popular spec and be bottom meters lol

quaint mauve
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ur not getting carried to hof imo

frail veldt
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you 100% can

frail veldt
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you can get carried to just about anything in wow

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within some margin

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larger the group the more you can be carried

compact bear
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is there a cap on versatility?

frail veldt
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no

compact bear
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31 is fine?

frail veldt
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little low imo

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lol

compact bear
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hmm ok i will find a nice ring and i will change it

frail veldt
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!stats

ornate heathBOT
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A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because adr Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The kir_charger KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after talents_alacrity Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The ho_charger HO build gets takem Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use raidbots Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

quaint mauve
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i really dont feel like fully learning sub

frail veldt
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its hard to be in a CE guild and only play outlaw

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outlaws just a bad spec for progression

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overall

copper radish
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Just go BM. Three buttons

quaint mauve
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i know how to play sub

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but i dont understand it

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if that makes sense

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i know what buttons to press in what order

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beyond that i have no clue

ocean lodge
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I don't enjoy sub atm

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I love outlaw but it's bad, and sin but it's bugged lul

copper radish
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Sub in SL was fun in keys

ocean lodge
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I was a bone spike enjoyer

plain halo
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I find sub to be a nice pace of play …less brain 🧠 strain than outlaw and more brain power than assa.

copper radish
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We had so much variety could do multiple specs and covenants

ocean lodge
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Main thing I'm unclear on sub is just the spots between bursting

frail veldt
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The builder spender rules on sub are just so boring

ocean lodge
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trying to improve and seemingly am tho

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Idk how people get crazy shit like 10mil soulbinder parses tho

plain halo
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I agree. It’s tough to remember when to sit and do nothing vs send. Takes practice and even then takes some thought

plain halo
ocean lodge
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Even arcane does damage without burst like gd

worldly sinew
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I'm still trying to push out 1-2m more ST for all of MFO.. I'm at a loss. Idk if boss dying too soon or what.

ocean lodge
plain halo
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Yeah, if adds die too fast, you’re just screwed

ocean lodge
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I leap from bottom to the top and slowly slink down

worldly sinew
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Did logs ever push that pad vote? Or is that still pending?

zealous plinth
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!wa

plain halo
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I still struggle with the dead zone time. I’d love to play outlaw from time to time, but the apm and mental fortitude to remember all the rules is off putting

elder phoenix
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for rogue

quaint mauve
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its not hard

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i dont wanna minmax

ocean lodge
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Subs pacing is weird for me. It'll click eventually though

quaint mauve
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but at the same time

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i dont like playing below my potential

plain halo
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IMHO sub feels super rewarding when you get it right

ocean lodge
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Cold blood second sectech is pretty gnarly

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Think I had it hit for close to 200mil last night on araz prog

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Amped but still

plain halo
ocean lodge
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Oh hell yeah

wintry solar
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RAHHHH

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Come on alpha

vivid vessel
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@tough salmon fuck you !

ocean lodge
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I'll stream outlaw if zac doesn't get it

royal ermine
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mom said its my turn to stream the alpha

proven ocean
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u have no idea how many idiots we've had

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that are worse than players in r400 guilds

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well im in a r400 guild atm but im just raiding with friends anyway

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mostly rank 150-250 will have a bunch of -100 iq gameplay

mighty pivot
vagrant minnow
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so azmi as outlaw is actually aids holy

keen belfry
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You can be carried to title, you can 100% be carried to hof

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Skill ranges are massive in like every guild, the lower level players are getting carried

worldly juniper
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At what point do we stop using the buyable cudgel if we're crafted a 720 offhand

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For M+

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I'm assuming now I dont swap till I get a 691 version

wintry solar
mighty pivot
copper radish
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is dawnbreaker popular or something this season? like 20 people outside of it lol

mighty pivot
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they are probably all resetting it after it bugged out

tender wedge
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urgh

copper radish
mighty pivot
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today the last add needed to get the flying buff decided to spawn about 1-2min too late garf_sit

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and we got that place because people wanted a shitty trinket

wintry solar
mighty pivot
wintry solar
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I was first

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I knew this day was coming

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but no one listened to me

mighty pivot
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first in what? this world? this discord server?

wintry solar
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NOW WHOS CRAZY????

wintry solar
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When I first experienced the reworked outlaw in df ptr

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I knew

red zinc
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alpha day gonna be funny regardless

wintry solar
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For sure

red zinc
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Either itll be changes that people that havent been here for a while suddenly yap about as if they are the rank 1 outlaw

mighty pivot
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I think popo had one too many glasses of moonshine

red zinc
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Or theres nothing and its full doom shitposting

mighty pivot
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I hope it's nothing because dooming can be funny sometimes ngl

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then again, even if there is some kind of info, people can still doom shruggy

red zinc
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Only class writers gonna have access

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If even that

wintry solar
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Either I'll like it, crackshot gets deleted and the channel has a meltdown, or it's all so bad and no one likes it and we all doom.

wintry solar
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I have what I'm gonna post if crackshot gets deleted because I like stirring the pot

mighty pivot
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if crackshot gets deleted both popo and mafic get tarred and feathered

wintry solar
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Keep in mind

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I love crackshot

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But

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Butt

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But I like this server being angry more

red zinc
old gull
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im truly curious about what they cookin

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and how much zac is gonna hate it

wintry solar
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I'm sure it's good

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Frontier you coward

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Face me!

wintry solar
tough salmon
old gull
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I'd just like to enjoy solo shuffle without wanting to stab myself in the eye

mighty pivot
covert kestrel
wintry solar
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Laugh at me yourself

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Rahhhh

mighty pivot
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fronteir in outlaw channel we use πŸ•‰οΈ as omegalul

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get with the times

covert kestrel
covert kestrel
old gull
harsh forge
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outlaw only has any players bc of the pure dopamine injection that crackshot gives and half of it is from a weak aura making a shotgun sound

if they got rid of crackshot outlaw would lose its last 10 players

wintry solar
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The shotgun sound is in the game

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Also. A lot of people left because of crackshot too so it goes both ways

covert kestrel
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what did outlaw do before crackshot, i need some lore in case it goes bye-bye

wintry solar
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You didn't play before crackshot?

covert kestrel
mighty pivot
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how fast did you solve today's wordle popo?

covert kestrel
wintry solar
mighty pivot
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I got it in 4, my first two guesses were disastrous but had a godlike 3rd

wintry solar
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It's actually really fun

covert kestrel
wintry solar
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That one was alright

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But low-key yeah

covert kestrel
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what was peak outlaw pre s3 df

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im looking up old guides

mighty pivot
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stop ignoring me popo reallymad

mighty pivot
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real outlaws don't embed

covert kestrel
vivid vessel
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ye

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noob

mighty pivot
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he doesn't know MAAAN

covert kestrel
old gull
ripe ibex
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@keen belfry whats that stat addon calkle

keen belfry
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what sthe huh

ripe ibex
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THAT SHOWS STATS

mighty pivot
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there is only one stat addon

covert kestrel
keen belfry
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character panel

worldly juniper
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πŸ™

ripe ibex
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i found it

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no thanks to you

worldly juniper
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Bring it back please

ripe ibex
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miss u tho

keen belfry
keen belfry
worldly juniper
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It's not the same πŸ™

mighty pivot
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it has the same name!

worldly juniper
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It'll never be the same peepoSad

copper radish
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what do yall new BM mains macro prism too. bestial wrath?

mighty pivot
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doesn't your OBR button use it?

copper radish
mighty pivot
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hey little billy

old gull
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won bwuttno wotation

mighty pivot
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this one button rotation that you have bound to every key on your keyboard

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does it not use that shiny pwism?

copper radish
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i do not have this super secret macro

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oh u talkin the blizz thing?

mighty pivot
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yes billy

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good boy

copper radish
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id only use that if it made me do more dps LMAO

mighty pivot
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let's go get you some ice cream now

copper radish
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thanks

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every1 needs a rewards

mighty pivot
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indeed

mighty pivot
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you don't get ice cream because you were out of the loop fronteir

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shameful

chilly abyss
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i did changed it xD so now i think ppl not gonna misundrestood xD

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id loved that pic but i think it wasnt a good idea too use it xD

dry briar
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!dagger

mighty pivot
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!oh

ornate heathBOT
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A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more instantpoison Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, ff Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.

quaint mauve
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you can use any pfp you desire

chilly abyss
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thatsss why i did changed it

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lot of ppl said that in mage discord

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ahhaha

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it was a beutifull pic for real but i think cant use it

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xDD

covert kestrel
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I READ A BOOK THIS WEEK

mighty pivot
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was it a book on piracy?

daring oxide
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ive been slowly reducing my time on discord until outlaw gets buffed/fixed/saved/reworked/deleted

real falcon
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!stats

ornate heathBOT
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A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because adr Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The kir_charger KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after talents_alacrity Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The ho_charger HO build gets takem Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use raidbots Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

mighty pivot
daring oxide
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true

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i actually need help @solo can you mute me for 12 hours please so i sleep

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@gaunt phoenix

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!mute @daring oxide

gaunt phoenix
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!mute @daring oxide 12h on request

vital wave
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the Turboboost is coming soon, is it SURE that the gilded crest limit will be removed ? I can't find it on the patchnote

chilly abyss
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pfff pug is insane nowdays ppl doing 3m damage in 15+ keys i just need a fcking team now for an ez 15+ key i cant belive it

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sry im bitching about it here

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xDD

gaunt phoenix
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3m HOLY

frail veldt
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3m overall?

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thats criminal

chilly abyss
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after 1st boss of DB

frail veldt
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thats wild

chilly abyss
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xDDD

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it is and he didnt even use his PIs on me

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and gave it too DH

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idk why

frail veldt
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I think its p close

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between you and dh

chilly abyss
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hahaha

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teh damage was insane before 1st boss

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i was around 11m overall

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and the DH was 8m

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i thinm better choice was too give it too em maybe on boss atleast

ocean lodge
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not really an outlaw thing

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but does anyone else hate how fucking lame engi has been since like wod

mighty pivot
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I had an ele shaman do 2m overall in a priory (10 or 12 can't recall)

ocean lodge
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i could press nothing but cl on mine and do more i think

chilly abyss
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man its so stupid after 1 Button ppl doing damage like that i mean if you cant do rotation just sue that you will do more damage than what you are doing right now

ocean lodge
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I get what they were going for with the one button thing

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but that really feels like the most

wintry solar
ocean lodge
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there's like a line that should be drawn for holding noob player hands

mighty pivot
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they did die literally 10 times, but don't ask me how you die so much in a 10

wintry solar
ocean lodge
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and that crosses it

ocean lodge
plain halo
ocean lodge
mighty pivot
wintry solar
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I do

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People enjoy my presence

chilly abyss
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anyone have any idea hw too waste 2h time in wow right now? except doing keys

plain halo
chilly abyss
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thats good too

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ill go creat a new UI for myself

plain halo
ocean lodge
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is gathering even worth anything r/n

plain halo
chilly abyss
ocean lodge
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I love it for the first month of an expansion

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then that shit craters.

chilly abyss
plain halo
worldly juniper
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Cudgel Acquired

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Time to have some fun

plain halo
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My current UI

gaunt phoenix
mighty pivot
wintry solar
indigo token
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@wintry solar you stink

wintry solar
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I stink good don't I?

indigo token
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im gay

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but no

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fucking freak

unborn basin
red zinc
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Gotta be qatar/dubai or somethin judging off that time

#

wait naw thats further

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Turkey?

covert kestrel
lime lake
#

kazakhstan probably

frail veldt
#

thats eastern europe

#

thats less far lol

lime lake
#

the plane is gonna go north offscreen and come back around

#

thats how they do it there

frail veldt
#

oh I guess thats more east than eastern europe

#

idk where the line ends

#

ukraine is eastern europe right?

lime lake
#

about as eastern europe as you can get

frail veldt
#

yeah western part of kazakhstan is in erope

#

according to google

#

but the country is "central asian"

wintry solar
covert kestrel
worldly juniper
#

This cudgel did 8% of my overall in a test run lol

thorny zinc
#

yea its op but so unfun to swap

ocean lodge
#

guys, what class do I make on tourney realm

#

I already made the rogue

severe drift
dawn talon
ocean lodge
severe drift
#

was talking about his global ilvl, but I believe the one you buy is actually the big one

#

you can get the same veteran one in weekly bag and a BOE adventurer one aswell

ocean lodge
#

for keys is a mythic stone idol probably the play for outlaw?

#

or are we astral sigil gang for life

wintry solar
#

Idr who asked but I got the wordle in 3

severe drift
#

Astral / Sigil if you have access to raid items, then warpclaw, then stone idole I believe

wintry solar
#

@mighty pivot

ocean lodge
#

Playing with antenna on tourny realm was a mistake

#

now I want it more :c

worldly sinew
#

Whats my prio for Mythic Araz.
Do I follow tank add? Do I swap to pylons?
Playing KIR Precision Trickster I was gonna just do heroic tech and follow tank add with cleave.

flat gate
#

!wa

quick scaffold
#

how can i get more cast of bte ? i seem to struggle to keep adr above 90% up time

last veldt
#

anyone got that "outlaw!" meme from party chat

bright crane
#

could it be??

grim spear
#

wtf the bug

hardy thicket
#

idk what im watching

stiff vector
#

obv details shows buffs differently than logs, but look at how cursed that heads to tail ratio is on one of our nexus pulls OMEGALUL

#

I am cursed

worldly juniper
#

Buff soon because they see the bug

#

The bug is the class

fluid meadow
#

assa b tier on wowhead tierlist(outlaw a-), assa less keys at +20(or none), assa top10 below 60io compared to outlaws, assa buff inc.wowhead post also said "Outlaw might be the preferred Rogue spec over Assassination." these things really not help on us to get buffs

frail veldt
#

so we will gain 0 dps when they fix it

#

I guarantee it

winged inlet
#

why is it so hard to stick to outlaw. I wanna play so much my rogue

sullen nimbus
#

You’d have to be completely delusional to think the devs are sitting there looking at wowhead tier list posts

wintry solar
#

@covert kestrel did you look up the gameplay?

fluid meadow
#

the thing is that, they do more work after wowhead posts without any attention and just do that what those posts said about a class/spec. like if im lazy or really not care about anything, why would i search for infos if they do that instead of me? nevermind if the infos are true or not, but they work instead of me and i can show up some work with class buffs

wintry solar
#

If you're not one to watch wow gameplay like me, it won't look interesting.

worldly juniper
#

Anyone know if Cudgel procs on Soulbinder adds if we swap on add phase?

tender wedge
#

No

worldly juniper
#

F

tender wedge
#

You’re perma in combat during boss fights

chilly abyss
#

anyone knwo hwo too fix SUF too fade colors when party or raid members are out of range?

frail veldt
#

p sure thats how that works

#

it can hit every new mob once per combat cycle

worldly juniper
#

Wait so every mob you hit WITH the cudgel (Blade flurry? or tab target hit) will proc the aoe burst

strong cargo
#

Ye, but you maybe overestimate it, the only good thing about it is to be abble to vanish and proc it multiple times to be worth it, so it's useless in raid and m+ boss fights

worldly juniper
#

No I get that part

#

I was looking at it like yep I get proc, but it didnt seem that much but it definitely was noticable and was like why...

#

But yeah it makes sense if blade flurry procs it once on EACH target

#

then reset

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Cause I was like "Is this just another bilesoaked crawg tusk flat damage op" situation

keen belfry
#

Raid lead and playing outlaw on soul hunters

#

New challenge

buoyant cosmos
#

Imma blast

strong halo
#

Raid lead? Isn’t that like role playing or something? Idk I just brrrrrrr

rare shoal
#

!stats

ornate heathBOT
#

A properly geared Outlaw's stat volume will look like Vers > Haste* > Crit > Mastery.

*But Haste has a **requirement ** because adr Adrenaline Rush scales your GCD based on haste, up to 25%.

The kir_charger KIR build wants ~19% haste from rating, so it becomes 25% after talents_alacrity Alacrity. 18% or 20% is close enough and not a problem. Don't play KIR with lower than 18% haste.

The ho_charger HO build gets takem Take 'em by Surprise, so its haste requirement is technically ~9%., but it continues to want haste just for energy. You will likely optimize towards 14-18% haste, not a strict number, just sim.

You need to use raidbots Raidbots Top Gear to determine what haste pieces to use. You can also get ~4.2% haste from a flask. This can be equal or better than Vers flask if you need it for either build.

tired crow
#

I switched back to my previous main (feral) and somehow I have the feeling that outlaw is much smoother to play without the roll the bones than the feral. Is it my imagination or is that really true? You get AR back relatively quickly, you almost always have something to press, there are no real energy problems and you also get CP back relatively quickly. With the Feral at the moment (it's still S2, but I'm working on it) it feels like I have to wait for energy non-stop.

frail veldt
#

Waiting for energy is considered gameplay for feral

#

It's not a flaw it's a feature

#

Not every spec wants to be hitting something every single gcd

#

Waiting for resources is entirely normal gameplay haha

#

Outlaws the weird one

tired crow
# frail veldt Waiting for energy is considered gameplay for feral

yes, of course, but it just feels so unnatural since i've been playing outlaw. on top of that, it's not about being able to use FB on 50 energy, but about being able to press something in general. After a certain period of time, you realize that you're only doing auto attacks. It feels wrong somehow.

frail veldt
#

It's intentional

#

Different specs have different designs

tired crow
#

yea i know

shell fossil
#

it's nice that outlaw doesn't need strong openers to add value

#

you just kinda lmao it into packs

wet gull
#

!logs

winter cave
#

God I wanted to play outlaw for Soul Hunters M

#

I did like 20 pulls since we were starting progress on it and dps didn't matter much

#

well getting perfect uptime in this chaotic shitshow of a fight is something haha

agile orchid
winter cave
#

No need for reviews there I know the shit I'm doing, but that fight is just so messy I couldn't haha

agile orchid
#

it's quite an annoying fight

#

I just swapped to sub

winter cave
#

Yeah same

#

at least I can try and make sure I hit all 3 bosses on burst windows

#

and focus on mechanics the rest of the time.

#

still not easy, but a LOT more manageable.

#

it was our first day on it

agile orchid
#

I killed it as outlaw, but only got a green parse Sadeg

winter cave
#

Might try outlaw again when the fight goes smoother

#

right now the debuff management is not going great

vivid vessel
#

@fathom bramble better late than never

#

but we won basegcat

#

outlaw PepeStonks

#

start investing now guys

haughty wigeon
#

I like how those are the first two emotes

vivid vessel
red zinc
tropic zephyr
lethal oak
agile orchid
#

that change is unnecessary because outlaw is getting buffed anyway COPIUM

mighty pivot
#

this was the only reason they've been ignoring outlaw I'm sure Okay

vivid vessel
#

i mean ti doesnt help right

#

its all about community perception

#

and community perception is

#

wowhead article screenshotting the all bosses statistic

quiet root
#

is it about community perception or about blizzard's own perception?

vivid vessel
#

those overlaps imo

mighty pivot
#

it's not like they interview lil billy to ask which spec to buff. I think it's legit rogue devs being semi-afk but shruggy if there is no tuning planned next week we'll have gone 4 weeks without tuning

vivid vessel
inland acorn
quiet root
vivid vessel
#

they are

quiet root
#

i don't think blizz monitors community discussion that much

vivid vessel
#

no they open wcl

#

and check all bosses

quiet root
#

yeah

vivid vessel
#

cuase they are as clueless as lil billy

#

and lil billy does the same thing

inland acorn
#

Difference is lil billy might learn with time that this is wrong

#

Blizzard wont

quiet root
#

which is kind of insane since stuff like this is literally blizzard's job

#

or at least the job of some people working at blizzard

mighty pivot
#

they don't have people who exclusively do balancing though, so they might have other things to do with higher priority (like midnight stuff)

#

whether their priorities should shift that's another topic

#

rogue attention has been minimal all of TWW, it kinda makes sense it lessens as the new expansion approaches

#

even though it would take 5 minutes to throw an aura buff at least

quiet root
#

right, but if what we're alleging is true (they open wcl all bosses, think this is fine, move on with their day) it's not about having different priorities

#

it's about them being bad at reading data

unkempt dew
#

Are we meta yet?

inland acorn
#

yeah

#

in 2035

unkempt dew
#

Aah cool i can wait

mighty pivot
quiet root
#

or zac (and other good players) are making us look too good

#

maybe you guys should stop logging

inland acorn
#

No we just need loud voice to keep crying and sandbagging, like hunters and warlocks

vivid vessel
#

in every key

#

idk about that

#

in a group where im the only one not having a raid buff

#

arguably having the worse utiltiy

#

worse prio damage

#

target capped

#

benefiting the most from the raid buffs

#

no burst

inland acorn
#

so what you're saying is

#

mage aura 5% buff
hunter aura 10% buff

agile orchid
#

classic fire mage aura buff classic

quiet root
agile orchid
#

you don't need to be cringe to get buffs

quiet root
#

i'm not advocating being cringe

agile orchid
#

and there are plenty of known rogue players in the wow community

#

casual, shindig, kush, etc.

inland acorn
#

in rogue community*

#

If you ask some random wow guy

#

If he knows who casual or shindig is

#

He will say no

#

Kush is exception because he is RWF

#

If you ask random wow player

#

If he knows who kalamazi is

#

Or tettles

#

Chances are way bigger, they'll say yes

quiet root
#

am i weird for not knowing who kalamazi is

agile orchid
#

tettles at least is just a content creator that happens to main boomie

#

and I think kalamazi is known mostly by warlock players

inland acorn
#

Thats true though Kalamazi is more known, because he kinda became a meme face of warlocks

red zinc
#

SEND MORE BUFFS PLEASE

inland acorn
#

more buffs for hunters ?

red zinc
#

no the kalamazi screenshot

inland acorn
red zinc
#

damn discord mobile trippin wont even let me send it

#

probably going to send it 10x out of nowhere as soon as i go to the toilet

agile orchid
#

how old is that video

red zinc
#

ptr

agile orchid
#

there is no shot he's asking for buffs

#

ok

inland acorn
#

2 months old

red zinc
#

he was asking for buffs right after the mythic testing

#

during which warlock was insannely broken

#

delulu

agile orchid
#

rogue is usually asking for nerfs xd

inland acorn
#

rogue is usually asking

#

for bug fixes...

agile orchid
#

remember dragonflight beta when bozos here would ask realz for nerfs Icant

inland acorn
agile orchid
#

rogue is built different

inland acorn
#

DF beta was

#

When they introduced FTH ye ?

#

no crackshot till later

agile orchid
#

yeah

#

wasn't fth a thing in shadowlands too?

#

I remember a legendary being similar

inland acorn
#

Not sure, I dropped shadowlands after sylvanas tier

#

The chore was actually bigger than my normal work

inland cairn
#

shadowlands it was a legendary

inland acorn
#

Ye i mean they ccoked most legendaries into talents now

inland cairn
glass mortar
#

We had something like it it didn't generate cp tho

agile orchid
glass mortar
#

Just did damage

gaunt phoenix
#

it gave cps

glass mortar
#

It did? I dont remember ot doing that in s4

gaunt phoenix
#

blunderbussy

#

ye ur fried

old gull
#

solo what do u think will be reworked

gaunt phoenix
#

imma tell lapras

#

I'm not sure but i have several suggestions

inland acorn
#

I'm sure they will listen

#

Just like they did with KS rework right

agile orchid
#

they mentioned outlaw multiple times, so surely something big is coming monkaW

red zinc
#

KIR is #1 on most likely to be reworked

old gull
inland acorn
agile orchid
gaunt phoenix
#

I would like KIR to just be 6 minute- your next roll is a guaranteed 5

#

if they are going to change kir

red zinc
#

They cant be saying all that stuff about weakaura requirements and then not get rid of container

timid portal
gaunt phoenix
#

ye

red zinc
#

Thats like one of two things that actually needs WA’s

inland acorn
red zinc
#

trickster UB also needs stuff but

#

doubt they even know

gaunt phoenix
#

they do

inland acorn
#

Both hero talents need some lifting

#

Especially the criminal fatebound

agile orchid
#

fatebound needs to be reworked from the ground

covert kestrel
daring oxide
#

Nothing should be hidden

#

So that anyone picking up outlaw for the first time can actually understand everything going on

#

Also fuck unseen blades

#

And fuck fatewank

rotund zodiac
#

I wish outlaw is new player friendly

daring oxide
#

It’s the most unfriendly for new players thanks to blizzards tech to hiding everything like rogue role play

agile orchid
#

It means they are going to turn it into ret paladin slop

#

See dk

supple iris
#

give me back my fighter spec

hardy thicket
#

What

slate forge
#

Supercharger makes roll spamming not feel that bad your really not losing dps with the roll gcd now

indigo token
#

was the worst one

agile orchid
#

Wdym blunderbuss was implemented as fth

torpid fiber
#

We also got kyrian unity

honest sparrow
#

Which is also bad

hardy thicket
#

It is ye

agile orchid
#

I remember greenskin being pretty good in SL

indigo token
#

oh

agile orchid
#

No idea what happened

indigo token
#

well yeah

#

we got a really good one

#

and fucking wickers

olive fractal
#

Guys quick question, im new on rogue. i think im okay okay/good on sub and assa - i wanted try outlaw but i dont do any dps.... now i see some streamer they playing outlaw like piano with 600+ apm button spam while tracking everything. i dont know if it looks too complicated.... but ive the feeling outlaw is one of the hardest classes.... πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„

Or im just super noob cause new on class = πŸ˜„

hardy thicket
#

Its hard

honest sparrow
hardy thicket
#

Compared to sub and assa

#

Mechanically

golden lark
#

Do we know anything of Outlaw reworks etc?

I feel they gotto do something now.. 😬

jolly geyser
#

no

olive fractal
#

i srsyl dont know how the buffs work when to rerroll or stay or increase timer on the rools and how to prepare for next pullst my stuff etc πŸ˜„

#

i mean i read them but it feels hard to choose and play with nice reaction on buffs to do dmg

mighty pivot
#

@daring oxide knows everything about the rework but he won't tell us

#

kind of rude tbh

olive fractal
#

cause guild asked me play outlaw on soulhunter mythic

#

is it worth when its complete new to me instead of playing sub?

mighty pivot
#

I would not recommend learning outlaw on soul hunters

strong cargo
olive fractal
#

where do i starT? i tryed read on maxroll any sites... and im not normally that bad... just in casual guild cause IRL. but i wanted play new class this raid. Assa & sub is fine... 2 days ago i tryed on dummy ST outlaw and i dont know why its only 1,8 mio ST dps πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„

mighty pivot
golden lark
copper radish
severe drift
#

guys, how do you obtain 691 cudgel ?

torpid fiber
#

Nightfall weekly

#

One chance per week

severe drift
#

fml

#

thank you

covert kestrel
mighty pivot
#

it will likely be worse 1-2 days before that

covert kestrel
mighty pivot
#

no, but people will go insane with all the anticipation piling up

#

unless there is a leak of course (vai????)

vivid vessel
covert kestrel
vivid vessel
#

what is glorp even

#

im clueless

jolly geyser
#

alien cat

vivid vessel
#

where does it come from

jolly geyser
#

twitch

#

prolly 7tv

covert kestrel
#

idk what these words mean but apparently

vivid vessel
covert kestrel
vivid vessel
covert kestrel
proven ocean
proven ocean
vivid vessel
slate forge
#

@zac in ecodome when the rift lizards tp away and you less then 8 mobs are you mouse over/focus bte/ps them?

vivid vessel
proven ocean
#

@zac in ecodome when the rift lizards tp away and you less then 8 mobs are you mouse over/focus bte/ps them?

slate forge
#

I need to get better at that shit

wispy elbow
#

do tanks have to pull around outlaw so u dotn use adrenaline rush or smth

covert kestrel
slate forge
#

Outlaw isn’t worth pulling around in any scenario

wispy elbow
#

dont lose i mean

#

im jsut mostly puging thinking of playing outlaw

wispy elbow
#

never played it before

proven ocean
#

ur playing the worst spec in the game

wispy elbow
#

xd

severe drift
wispy elbow
#

ye

#

how u know

proven ocean
#

Only way to play around you is to kick you from the grp

#

Outlaw sucks

#

Valls

wispy elbow
#

welp

#

why is that tho

merry harness
#

Target cap zero prio dmg mid st dmg

slate forge
#

It doesn’t go away while stealthed im not sure what you mean

vivid vessel
#

STOLE IT EASY

proven ocean
severe drift
#

dw, @daring oxide says it will be reworked on 2nd of october, and I like it, so it must be right

covert kestrel
long barn
#

!fuu

ornate heathBOT
spare lake
#

Outlaw is getting reworked in October???? Hmmmge

#

Coin flip if it gets worse

mighty pivot
#

coin flip except it disappears like those missing tails flips

ocean lodge
solid kelp
real falcon
#

Just remove the aoe cap and make KIR baseline so other builds can open up πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

red zinc
#

remove this add that i just want to glorp with outlaw chat

daring oxide
real falcon
#

Can't tell if srs or not l

#

Lol

mighty pivot
#

vai we know that your source is your lover @wintry solar who is secretly the rogue dev

daring oxide
daring oxide
#

Popo * oops sorry

ocean lodge
#

Poop

daring oxide
#

Sorry iPhone thinks poop more fitting for popo

#

We might get tuning tonight btw

#

@agile orchid told me

solid kelp
#

I hope one day I will wake up to see notes about crackshot getting removed.
What a blessed day that will be πŸ™

ocean lodge
#

What is wrong with you

real falcon
#

I love crackshot

devout garden
#

Crackshot only fun cuz you have ace up your sleeve

agile orchid
ocean lodge
devout garden
#

How is this comparable

agile orchid
ocean lodge
#

It's a silly thing to say

agile orchid
#

Crackshot is beloved by most

ocean lodge
#

We love crackshot.

#

Crackshot is crack.

jolly geyser
#

now try crack

ocean lodge
#

Why, I have crackshot

vivid vessel
#

just random blue names

vivid vessel
#

talking about a spec they never play

#

dw about it vurai

ocean lodge
#

Crackshot is the best addition outlaw ever had.

devout garden
#

The only thing I don't like about crackshot that is it tied to vanish.

ocean lodge
#

How hard are we coping about tuning tonight

jolly geyser
#

no tunes

devout garden
#

No tuning garf_sit

jaunty garnet
#

was thinking about getting back into wow for a bit but seems like rogues has been abandoned by Blizzard. We get nothing every patch or expansion while frost DKs and resto shamans hog every key and leaderboard. Our cooldowns are all over the place, tools that used to make us strong are barely relevant, and so much of our gameplay feels pointless. Abilities get nerfed or ignored while other classes keep getting stronger and more impactful and the timers blink and beep and my brain screams vanish vanish vanish DPS DPS keys keys nobody cares Blizzard why why just let us be we are shadows we are ghosts we are clicking nothing and nothing clicks back.
Arcane mages are really tight and play incredibly smoothly right now.

red zinc
#

yeah that ones getting pasted

jaunty garnet
#

dont quote me, this is private outlaw rogue intel/opinion

vivid vessel
#

was thinking about getting back into wow for a bit but seems like rogues has been abandoned by Blizzard. We get nothing every patch or expansion while frost DKs and resto shamans hog every key and leaderboard. Our cooldowns are all over the place, tools that used to make us strong are barely relevant, and so much of our gameplay feels pointless. Abilities get nerfed or ignored while other classes keep getting stronger and more impactful and the timers blink and beep and my brain screams vanish vanish vanish DPS DPS keys keys nobody cares Blizzard why why just let us be we are shadows we are ghosts we are clicking nothing and nothing clicks back.
Arcane mages are really tight and play incredibly smoothly right now.

cinder relic
#

What is uncle talking abg

red zinc
#

punctuation is #outlaw is a death sentence

#

nobody here can read that long im sorry

earnest marsh
#

was thinking about getting back into wow for a bit but seems like rogues has been abandoned by Blizzard. We get nothing every patch or expansion while frost DKs and resto shamans hog every key and leaderboard. Our cooldowns are all over the place, tools that used to make us strong are barely relevant, and so much of our gameplay feels pointless. Abilities get nerfed or ignored while other classes keep getting stronger and more impactful and the timers blink and beep and my brain screams vanish vanish vanish DPS DPS keys keys nobody cares Blizzard why why just let us be we are shadows we are ghosts we are clicking nothing and nothing clicks back.
Arcane mages are really tight and play incredibly smoothly right now.

ocean lodge
#

was thinking about getting back into wow for a bit but seems like rogues has been abandoned by Blizzard. We get nothing every patch or expansion while frost DKs and resto shamans hog every key and leaderboard. Our cooldowns are all over the place, tools that used to make us strong are barely relevant, and so much of our gameplay feels pointless. Abilities get nerfed or ignored while other classes keep getting stronger and more impactful and the timers blink and beep and my brain screams vanish vanish vanish DPS DPS keys keys nobody cares Blizzard why why just let us be we are shadows we are ghosts we are clicking nothing and nothing clicks back.
Arcane mages are really tight and play incredibly smoothly right now.

slate forge
#

Guys I’m serious about getting back into wow for a bit but seems like rogues has been abandoned by Blizzard. We get nothing every patch or expansion while frost DKs and resto shamans hog every key and leaderboard. Our cooldowns are all over the place, tools that used to make us strong are barely relevant, and so much of our gameplay feels pointless. Abilities get nerfed or ignored while other classes keep getting stronger and more impactful and the timers blink and beep and my brain screams vanish vanish vanish DPS DPS keys keys nobody cares Blizzard why why just let us be we are shadows we are ghosts we are clicking nothing and nothing clicks back.
Arcane mages are really tight and play incredibly smoothly right now.

devout garden
#

Guys I’m serious about getting back into wow for a bit but seems like rogues has been abandoned by Blizzard. We get nothing every patch or expansion while frost DKs and resto shamans hog every key and leaderboard. Our cooldowns are all over the place, tools that used to make us strong are barely relevant, and so much of our gameplay feels pointless. Abilities get nerfed or ignored while other classes keep getting stronger and more impactful and the timers blink and beep and my brain screams vanish vanish vanish DPS DPS keys keys nobody cares Blizzard why why just let us be we are shadows we are ghosts we are clicking nothing and nothing clicks back.
Arcane mages are really tight and play incredibly smoothly right now.

royal stump
#

!wa

spare lake
#

Pray for outlaw

ocean lodge
#

Allow me to guide you to a better way to ask questions

#

Hey zac, why is our class dogshit

red zinc
vivid vessel
spare dome
devout garden
mighty pivot
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was thinking πŸ€” about 🌈 getting πŸ’† back πŸ‘―πŸ™πŸ»πŸ’― into πŸšŸπŸ‘ wow 🀩 for πŸ”πŸ™‹ a bit 😁 but 🦎 seems πŸ‘€ like 😼 rogues has πŸ›’ been πŸ’΄πŸ₯œ abandoned by 😑 Blizzard. We 🎎 get πŸ‘†πŸ» nothing 🚫 every πŸ‘† patch or expansion while πŸ’― frost DKs and resto shamans hog πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ€¬ every πŸ’― key πŸ” and leaderboard. Our πŸ’© cooldowns are all πŸ˜’πŸ™ over πŸŒ„πŸ€­ the place, πŸ† tools that 😐 used πŸ“…πŸ˜ to make πŸ’˜ us πŸ‘―β€β™€οΈ strong πŸ’ͺ are barely relevant, and so much πŸ”₯ of our πŸ’©πŸ‘‘ gameplay feels 😡 pointless. Abilities get πŸ’©πŸ’©πŸ’©πŸ’© nerfed or ignored while πŸ˜‚ other πŸ’° classes 🀑 keep 🌡 getting πŸ‰ stronger πŸ’ͺ and more πŸ€²πŸ™Œ impactful and the timers blink ❌ and beep πŸ€–πŸ€– and my πŸŒŠπŸŒ™ brain 🧠 screams 😱 vanish vanish vanish DPS DPS keys πŸ”‘ keys πŸ”‘ nobody πŸ™…πŸ€ cares 🀷 Blizzard why πŸ§šπŸ‘‘πŸŒΈ why πŸ˜‚ just πŸ€– let πŸ™†πŸ˜€ us πŸ‘¨ be 🐝🏻 we πŸ‘§πŸ˜’ are shadows we πŸ‘΅πŸ‘¨ are ghosts πŸ‘»πŸ‘» we πŸ‘₯ are clicking nothing 😬 and nothing 😼 clicks back. ↩️ Arcane mages are really πŸ’― tight πŸ‘Š and play 🀣😊 incredibly πŸ’© smoothly right πŸ“· now. πŸ•‘

ocean lodge
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Thank you zac(s)

jolly geyser
jaunty garnet
red zinc
# mighty pivot was thinking πŸ€” about 🌈 getting πŸ’† back πŸ‘―πŸ™πŸ»πŸ’― into πŸšŸπŸ‘ wow 🀩 for πŸ”πŸ™‹ a bi...

Imagine being so wrong on something you can easily prove is wrong, you mute somebody for calling out your bullshit act, which is acting right when you are actually wrong about the subject currently being discussed (soothing got a nerf which means it isn't a net 0 change) While LMFAO'ing me despite you clearly being wrong if you thought for one second about it.
"LMFAOOOOO"
"He still has no idea"
But no you have the special role so whatever you say is law.
1984

severe drift
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Imagine remake turning outlaw into tank lmao

ocean lodge
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I think zac would kill somebody

timid portal
vivid vessel
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you cant repost your own made copy pasta

jaunty garnet
vivid vessel
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its the rule

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its ok buddy

mighty pivot
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(it is not ok)

keen belfry
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What was karver saying yesterday

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Rememebr that?

jaunty garnet
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severe drift
ocean lodge
severe drift