In their current iteration I doubt
#outlaw
wintry solar
wintry solar
You're right
copper radish
In their current iteration I doubt
In 2 xpacks we will be back to 1 talent every 10 levels lol
vivid vessel
@desert tendon
gaunt phoenix
our tree in 10 xpacs
desert tendon
<@455252099450798081>
hello what is up
vivid vessel
hello what is up
You know that french guy
That has like
Zacdh
Zacmage
Etcetc
he just joined my guild 💀
vivid vessel
oh thats a nice one actually
vivid vessel
proven ocean
@past ocean wtf dude
vivid vessel
ye im keeping it
bright crane
our tree in 10 xpacs
And then we’ll go back to MOP style talents because the hero talents got too complicated
And the cycle begins anew
fallow fractal
sadly no Sv hero tree
royal ermine
and at the end of the day no matter how many nodes there are they're still just an illusion of choice 
solid kelp
our tree in 10 xpacs
looks crazy but fine at the same time
desert tendon
he just joined my guild 💀
gg time to quit this guild
lofty pike
is dimensius trinket simbait or is it good?
lofty pike
So for mythic i can use it? Like If the Fights longer than 3 minutes
gaunt phoenix
ye
lofty pike
Another question: i got this Bombsack of tazavesh, in Sims IT sucks, in reality it blasts Like hell, why the?
tropic zephyr
You stole from him
gaunt phoenix
It doesnt have agility on it
so it skews details
your other skills do lower dmg
in comparison to it
lofty pike
But Dimi Trinker without ago is OK in longer Fights then?
gaunt phoenix
ring next week?
maybe that or gloves
muted crest
this haste cap makes crafting abysmal
i would try to sim with different gem on cloack
copper radish
ring next week?
Get that 10mil gold ready buy a mythic track one
keen belfry
Get that 10mil gold ready buy a mythic track one
debating buying a ring
tired rune
already did, pay to win bois
copper radish
debating buying a ring
I went the dumbass route and crafted them 💀
elder phoenix
ring next week?
15% haste?
keen belfry
flask
copper radish
Min max champ
subtle field
!log
gaunt phoenix
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
copper radish
It’s scary when this channel is silent. Everyone patiently waiting for changes enjoying better classes 😂
severe drift
It’s scary when this channel is silent. Everyone patiently waiting for changes e...
this is so true lmao
cold jewel
It’s scary when this channel is silent. Everyone patiently waiting for changes e...
true
serene brook
old gull
leaden folio
red zinc
buff frost and fury cuh
hasty locust
How you use Netherprism in raid? at pull then at 15 stack?
verbal herald
is holding bf for vanish in aoe a thing?
fallen mural
jolly geyser
they want to see your junk they mean
copper radish
Outlaw the new BM
gaunt phoenix
is holding bf for vanish in aoe a thing?
Naw
verbal herald
ah cool, I was watching zac and wondering why he seemed to sometimes not press it, but I guess it was another condition
long barn
Give us some love!
vivid vessel
ah cool, I was watching zac and wondering why he seemed to sometimes not press i...
unseen blades
vivid vessel
ye
jade coral
Hi, I just switched to outlaw I can craft 1 item with embellish , can you give me advice ? I saw a lot belt , ring, cloves ... Thanks 😄
normal forge
Hi, I just switched to outlaw I can craft 1 item with embellish , can you give m...
whty uve done that?
glass mortar
well assuming u are playing the current recommended builds and not HO, you need more hate
agile orchid
at how many stacks does outlaw use netherprism?
glass mortar
your hate is not quite high enough
so jewlery wouldnt be a bad choice
or running some keys with a bm hunter
anyway u can get that hate closer to 19%
glass mortar
at how many stacks does outlaw use netherprism?
no specific stacks just send it when u have 5 buffs or right before crackshots
and dont let it overcap obviously (that would be hard tho)
if u know u will need a damage amp soon for some reason (like a important pull in a dungeon or a damage amp on a boss) you can save it up for that
the usage is flexible so u can play around with it
wheat shuttle
!log
bright crane
anyway u can get that hate closer to 19%
get that hate up baby
desert tendon
junior coral
Can you change gear or only wep during a m+?
mighty pivot
only weapons
slate forge
Just wep imagine macros to change into old tier when rolling
mighty pivot
you just gave blizzard an idea for our next tier bonus
junior coral
Ah damn, I just got stoned and thought about how wild it would be to have a full set of gear with like no haste to change into when you get PI. Just enough to get 20% with
^^ that too lmao
heavy mason
Idk how accurate wowanalyzer is but sheez I suck
mighty pivot
this is wrong, it still thinks KS is 90s cd
slate forge
Idk how accurate wowanalyzer is but sheez I suck
Summary:
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because Hiko was already dead.
heavy mason
Summary:
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray c...
r/Counterstrike is leaking
vivid vessel
another successufl tazavesh run
spare dome
offstream 😬
jolly geyser
haste
spare dome
wox streaming anyway
random stirrup
another successufl tazavesh run <:basegcat:1107701282577334292>
I got 4 rings
In business
0 usable!
spare dome
you won by default, since you play outlaw
vivid vessel
well
I play sub
in tazavesh
btw guys
thoughts
im stuck here now kinda till reclear
jolly geyser
bald
vivid vessel
50 crests in bag tho ..
spare dome
rmt god
random stirrup
Give me 2 weeks and dh boots
vivid vessel
and what
you aint catching up buddy
cause then its superboost thing
and they aint uncapping gilded
so im still infinitely ahead of your ass
mighty pivot
imagine with how many feet pics zac bribed his guild to get fed loot
daring oxide
and they aint uncapping gilded
how do u know
vivid vessel
With discounted upgrades
im using the discounted upgrades on my main
random stirrup
yes once it drops
daring oxide
if its uncapped
vivid vessel
and i think it was so bad last time
random stirrup
I will use my alts to upgrade slots
daring oxide
i will catch up to you in a day
random stirrup
So main insta go up
vivid vessel
i wouldnt be suprised
random stirrup
I catch you
daring oxide
xd
vivid vessel
random stirrup
zacrebleu too down bad
random stirrup
my mage guy infinite loot funnel
vivid vessel
one sec
daring oxide
@vivid vessel BenMelvis when? (BM)
vivid vessel
im buying boe chest when i feel like it
and i basically have infinite gear on this guy aswell
and he boosted my main on boots, neck and belt
daring oxide
Zacrebleu has better gear than my main... wtf
vivid vessel
so im up gilded from that on main already
random stirrup
My mage is 712 with 490 gilded I think
vivid vessel
ye i know right
random stirrup
He will ascend
vivid vessel
your mage aint catching up to zacrebleu buddy
daring oxide
wtf u brought BOE belt on ZacreBLUE?
vivid vessel
and basically
daring oxide
i see
vivid vessel
i did the same for neck and boots
so im goated
i have infinite gold vai
cause boost
if i want gold
daring oxide
hmm
daring oxide
true
jolly geyser
how much is a +12 boost?
vivid vessel
and raid boost will get me a passive income aswell
random stirrup
Boe is cheat!
vivid vessel
of like idk
600k a week on average maybe idk
i think first weeks it should be 1mil + but we couldnt find buyer apparently
skill issue maybe
daring oxide
i see
jolly geyser
how much is the 6+ loot
keen belfry
zac what did u even get from vault
vivid vessel
copege
earnest vapor
proven ocean
ty zac
vivid vessel
np
quaint mauve
i was 721 when i took my first socket
france buff…
i was 712 when i took my first socket
keen belfry
when you get better at the game
ive reached my genetic potential
i was blessed to be mid
..
vivid vessel
Gg
proven ocean
Gg
keen belfry
gg
proven ocean
sup gnawa
quaint mauve
ive reached my genetic potential
keen belfry
mhm
jolly geyser
gnaw is a word
vivid vessel
@gaunt phoenix you seen the new interview of ion
He said
They actually have 2 retails team
gaunt phoenix
eh?
vivid vessel
One working on even numbered expac and the other working on uneven
Like they have a classic etc twam
proven ocean
twam 
vivid vessel
That sounds weird to me
vivid vessel
Idk that wwre his words
dawn talon
composed of smaller teams working on patches
proven ocean
classic team?
why the fuck
like
what
what are they working on? making ragnaros function or
proven ocean
That part isn't surprising to me
ye true
hoary mountain
Hey got a stupid question about the cursed stone idol trinket. on the first pull of a dungeon, when would be the best time to use it? Would it be after the initial Subterfuge window, after the Killing spree or when the pull first starts? My gut tells me after teh wfirst subt window but want to get others opinions?
proven ocean
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxpgtDklyAJE8daxs2jGSHq06O6KANFOu1?si=cQGt8hs48__Zq_u...
oh thats kinda cool
i wonder how they managed to do that?
thats great tho
i feel like blizzard always lacked in that area
gaunt phoenix
guys
proven ocean
it was either a money issue or idk lack of management?
gaunt phoenix
girls
lofty latch
Hey got a stupid question about the cursed stone idol trinket. on the first pull...
i'd use it right before your double cdg
gaunt phoenix
terrible news
proven ocean
happened what??
vivid vessel
i need to read it again
hoary mountain
i'd use it right before your double cdg
Thanks! Whats the reasoning behind that btw? Is it just better to time it with the CDG for the crit strike?
lethal oak
Day 300 of no outlaw buffs, life is getting harder
glass mortar
Thanks! Whats the reasoning behind that btw? Is it just better to time it with t...
use it after first subterfuge before second
gaunt phoenix
zac
vivid vessel
a 1/2 % thing tho right
vivid vessel
shouldnt be major or
if its just the initial thing of head
and then head is half the time
but the stacking part still works
gaunt phoenix
well idk
ashen void
if head no work seems bad no? 
gaunt phoenix
its prolly like 3% or smth
proven ocean
ok ngl
what hes saying ion
zac
i completely agree
we're getting alot of updates mid patch no?>
used to be dog cow
vivid vessel
couldnt care less about that slop
proven ocean
circle shit
was 1 patch only
per expac
now its like
every patch
we get 2
1 big item
vivid vessel
we get that shit every tier idk
lofty latch
Thanks! Whats the reasoning behind that btw? Is it just better to time it with t...
actually, right before KS seems more correct. crit buff for all of KS + unseen blades, and the 2x cdg windows. if you're lucky you should have RP when you're ready to spend your vanish and you wont need the crit anyway
lofty latch
if you're not lucky, i think you will still have tail end of the crit buff for a few BTE before it falls off
vivid vessel
the head shit
worldly juniper
What's the actual consensus on the SoH builds, or just run the normal builds still
proven ocean
we didnt get trurbo boost in DF did we?
vivid vessel
no
proven ocean
hmm
vivid vessel
we got the first ring cringe shit
gaunt phoenix
because stone idol is uncapped, the proper way is probably to adjust it based on pulls a bit
i dont think the stat buff is that important to lose potential casts on it
proven ocean
ye weird idk
lofty latch
because stone idol is uncapped, the proper way is probably to adjust it based on...
oh yeah totally agree if its huge target count you send it because of the uncapped nature
glass mortar
its so dog st
gaunt phoenix
i didnt skip it
vivid vessel
ye
glass mortar
but it does slap in aoe
vivid vessel
im not taking that shit trinket with a cast time
glass mortar
i never do under 16m on a pull i use it on ngl
vivid vessel
i aint about that life
vivid vessel
i will be playing dh trinket so idc
glass mortar
literal padding
vivid vessel
its more prio and more st
glass mortar
idk what ur peak peak is this season zac but
vivid vessel
i dont wanna play a shit stat tribnket when 15% of my damage is wasted in aoe
like 25 mil idk
glass mortar
on first pull of a ecodome
i peaked at 25m
LOL
my gear is way worse then urs tho
this trinket is giga in aoe
glass mortar
its probably not worth it
its so pad
but its a pad season anyway
law cant do boss damage
im commiting to me role
which is killing funnel adds the tank pulls onto bosses for the real specs
its honest work
tender wedge
If only antifunnel was a niche
hoary mountain
Thanks for the info! Got lucky with a mythic version in my vault so wanted to check the best way of using it. It's nice to know it's uncapped though!
gaunt phoenix
i think this is right https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aWd8C2Y1gcTDxMGeTDf1tU
lofty latch
i think this is right <https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aWd8C2Y1gcTDxMGeTD...
lol how disappointing
vivid vessel
vivid vessel
its an ingame bug its not like it changed anyuthing really
you do the same damage
(bad damage)
keen belfry
do u guys wanna know what i miss
keen belfry
enahnec shaman season 1
lofty latch
yeah wonder if they'll fix it like they fixed fury bug then suddenly it's pumping
keen belfry
i miss enhance shaman season 1
gaunt phoenix
so tails coin is legit 6 times better than heads
quaint mauve
bro it’s so hot outside
gaunt phoenix
rn
quaint mauve
im dripping in sweat after walking for 3 minutes
vivid vessel
yeah wonder if they'll fix it like they fixed fury bug then suddenly it's pumpin...
you think if outlaw gets a 3% buff it pumps ?
kekw
lofty latch
no
keen belfry
enahnec shaman season 1
@vivid vessel remember
glass mortar
did u ever figure out ur tails randomly missing solo
vivid vessel
oultaw could get 10% aura it wouldnt do bm damage
glass mortar
or was it just log bugs
quaint mauve
you think if outlaw gets a 3% buff it pumps ?
don’t we deadass need like 15% aura to catch up
gaunt phoenix
rate my daggers?
proven ocean
like
vivid vessel
don’t we deadass need like 15% aura to catch up
prolly kekw
keen belfry
put some clothe son solo
proven ocean
i genuinely dont remember a worse outlaw
stiff vector
so tails coin is legit 6 times better than heads
ok so im not crazy and its not my fault when my damage is brewmaster level in raid because im getting fuckign 40x more heads
proven ocean
we never had a bad one
vivid vessel
s1 tww was bad
proven ocean
s2 DF was bad but
vivid vessel
but
proven ocean
not this bad
proven ocean
s1 tww was bad
ye sure i remember it
vivid vessel
people werent playing phys comp
proven ocean
but
vivid vessel
so like
proven ocean
this season is way worse than s1 imo
stiff vector
yeah I mean...this version of outlaw is a fucking warcrime holy shit man
proven ocean
it was ok
vivid vessel
ye without raid buffs
lofty latch
i have notice a variance of up to 800k dps pull by pull in raid with fatebound even though my globals feel fine
proven ocean
ye
keen belfry
idk if you did some today in your pugs zac, but doing a pub m+ rn without raid buffs makes you actually want to delete your outlaw
vivid vessel
idk if you did some today in your pugs zac, but doing a pub m+ rn without raid b...
did you not see
you saw
wdyum
you were there
keen belfry
i saw the hunter keys
vivid vessel
for the run with arxes
proven ocean
idk if you did some today in your pugs zac, but doing a pub m+ rn without raid b...
we talked about it before btw me and zac
quaint mauve
literally you don’t get to play without monk warrior
proven ocean
no
vivid vessel
one sec
proven ocean
what happened
btw awang
we talked about that thing
outlaw does low dmg no buffs cuz its just purely hard capped
and the rtb is too rng
vivid vessel
stiff vector
completely pathetic tuning(blatantly undertuned since PTR), nerfed our dmg profile to be the literal worst dmg profile in the game that is good for nothing, worst ST/boss dmg in game, worst hero trees in game+giga bugged hero trees
vivid vessel
proven ocean
stiff vector
absolute cinema
keen belfry
imagine you go do a pug, with 1 maybe 2 raid buffs, and your tank pulling like he has uncapped specs. you actually feel so useless, like no cap
proven ocean
alt too not just 713
vivid vessel
arxes died twice also
proven ocean
vivid vessel
bad deaths
earnest marsh
I'm new to the spec, but why is outlaw rogue doing so low in many people's words?
frail veldt
i have notice a variance of up to 800k dps pull by pull in raid with fatebound e...
that can happen, our 95th to 5th percentile spread is 908,000 dps
and thats even with perfect play in the sim
frail veldt
so its very possible to have an 800k dps spread
though rare ish
stdev is more like 275k
stiff vector
blizzard has done us so fucking dirty its despicable
severe drift
its even worse than season 2 outlaw zac
Thanks for reviving my ptsd
keen belfry
r1 outlaw losing to alt hunter player (outlaw has 8 ilvls on the hunter)
lofty latch
i had a frac pull where i was doing 5.8M dps but we wiped at 40%, next pull around 40% i was at like 5M dps and i dont even think it felt that much worse. i was expecting less of a spread
gaunt phoenix
Buuuuggggssss
Fatebound 
Heads is bugged and has been the entire season.
The initial 8% damage doesn't work correctly on skills, only the +2% per stack works.
So when you have 1 Heads it is really giving you 2% damage instead of 10%.
We believe this to be about a 3.5% average dps loss, and also probably a good reason why Fatebound can have heavy RNG swings because the Tails coin is legit 5-6 times better than Heads.
Fatebound is still lightyears ahead of Trickster for most of the raid.
stiff vector
I called it that the coins were bugged
quaint mauve
bro genuinely we r so chopped
vivid vessel
ah wiat nvm
frail veldt
# Buuuuggggssss
<:fatebound:1273369194322464899> Fatebound <:talents_fatebound_h...
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
stiff vector
wasnt exactly hard to tell that something was bugged af though when im looking at my damage in raid on some pulls and it literally looks like week 2 of the tier dps
keen belfry
killing spree losing to main coochey?
vivid vessel
ye
keen belfry
solo how can ilook at a log and see how many heads vs tails i got
gaunt phoenix
buffs tab
gaunt phoenix
stiff vector
keen belfry
i had more heads on my frac kill last night
stiff vector
I feel like recently most of my pulls are mroe heads than tails somehow lol
the rly bad ones are when you have like 30+ more heads than tails
keen belfry
GRANDPA I DONT WANT TO PLAY OUTLAW NYMORE
stiff vector
you do actual Z dps
gaunt phoenix
tfw you chain roll Heads for 10 seconds
keen belfry
remember when the damage meter could look like this?
bring back enhance season 1
so i can delete my outlaw
NOW
jolly geyser
ofc billie plays fotm
stiff vector
for the past week ive basically just logged on my outlaw for raid, and a few keys earlier last week
keen belfry
i didnt have 8 keys done until monday night
stiff vector
I tried logging on and doing a few io keys
and it was just too miserable
went back on hunter
quaint mauve
rn its just outlaw
what happened to the mage
i do more ST on my 700 ilvl mage rn in m+
keen belfry
should i go do a mage key
stiff vector
I didnt play anything but my rogue up until last week, but its hard to want to seriously go try and get io on my rogue at this point
royal ermine
# Buuuuggggssss
<:fatebound:1273369194322464899> Fatebound <:talents_fatebound_h...
HOWLONGCANTHISGOON
gaunt phoenix
GOON
royal ermine
wait that was unintentional
quaint mauve
should i go do a mage key
it’s pretty fun…
doing yk
a good thing in your keys
rather than trolling
daring oxide
Solo are these bugs implemented in simc so we can see the actual dps we have
all these losses
added u
up
-10%
gaunt phoenix
what other bugs are there
keen belfry
fatebound existing has to be a bug
stiff vector
the craziest part is even with bugs on top of just being the worst spec in the raid....still complete and utter radio silence. More hunter buffs im sure 
gaunt phoenix
hm
gaunt phoenix
i think that one might be display issue in wclog
daring oxide
its not actually getting a damage increase
royal ermine
waiting until we find proof of fatal flourish being bugged
daring oxide
well it does damage before the buff
royal ermine
keen belfry
gaunt phoenix
to simc
daring oxide
ah ok
gaunt phoenix
"disable heads" is like -4% now
daring oxide
is there any way ravenholdt can flag the bugs to realz directly
so hes aware of them
vivid vessel
who cares
keen belfry
yeah @ him and then DM him
vivid vessel
its fatebound
daring oxide
its been a long time since the tiers come out and were still plagued with bugs left and right
keen belfry
me zac
dawn talon
is there any way ravenholdt can flag the bugs to realz directly
we have to complain loudly
stiff vector
I am fatebounds #1 hater
daring oxide
i think you should @reals
stiff vector
dogshit dumpster fire of a hero tree
daring oxide
yeah @ him and then DM him
do it awangawang
stiff vector
blizzard should be ashamed of themselves
daring oxide
ok lets not get angry and negative
we can ask them nicely to fix
they'll be happier to fix in happy way
vivid vessel
who tf want fatebound fixes??
daring oxide
I WANT TO DO MORE DMGGGGGGGGGGG
vivid vessel
you can fix fatebound all you watn
outlaw is still trash in raid
and fatebound is still unplayable
daring oxide
daring oxide
then
vivid vessel
on fatebound >?
daring oxide
just giga buff trickster
vivid vessel
legit useless
stiff vector
ye just 20% aura buff trickster, toss fatebound in the trash'
vivid vessel
if they fix fatebound bugs imma acatullay be mad btw
vivid vessel
I got mad when they buffed fatebound on ptr
And you guys laughed at me
Look at us now
Who was right
Again
daring oxide
Save us brother
vivid vessel
On ptr I remember saying that everytime fateboudn get buffed outlaw get worse
And on god
It's one of the truest statement I ever made
And you guys hated on me for it
daring oxide
# Buuuuggggssss
<:fatebound:1273369194322464899> Fatebound <:talents_fatebound_h...
I'm thinking but could this bug have been in since the very start (when fatebound was first made)?
gaunt phoenix
No
daring oxide
how does the 8% initial damage just suddenly disappear at some point in the expansion 
gaunt phoenix
It's because the spell data has 'flat' modifier
so it's perhaps adding +8 damage...
But the stacking buff has percent modifer
slate forge
8dmg is pretty good thanks blizzard
gaunt phoenix
this was changed last ptr i think
daring oxide
ok that makes sense
what would it be if it was related to a % modifier rather than a 'flat modifier'
gaunt phoenix
it would be 8% dmg
craggy jay
stiff vector
we thought it couldnt be more joever
daring oxide
It's because the spell data has 'flat' modifier
@real quick fix m8
daring oxide
whats that title for
gaunt phoenix
delves
glass mortar
wish it was from something harder
my branns capped to
running out of reasons to run delves
daring oxide
It's because the spell data has 'flat' modifier
This also affects assa too?
glass mortar
gaunt phoenix
Yes
gaunt phoenix
ye
vivid vessel
Is that 1k delves
glass mortar
ye
dense bolt
u baiting me weranm
glass mortar
how am i baiting u
i still use last expacs every single fight of everything
ive probably used this rune 1000000 times
easy worth
will do the same with the next one
dense bolt
craggy jay
trust him
dense bolt
do i c.o.d zac for it
hes always bragging on how easy it is to get gold
and his m+ boosts
keen belfry
red zinc
thanks for the red arrows
tired rune
prob the least fun ive had playing outlaw in a long time
stiff vector
Id say its basically as close as you can get to just being unplayable
tired rune
like my key group msgs me and im just like I'd rather just play my hunter
daring oxide
you guys remember when we had the blade flurry bug
how did we prompt blizzard to urgently fix it?
what was the tech
anyone remember
red zinc
bd if you make a wowhead article just complaining about balance you get nowhere
bugs is a different thing
daring oxide
ye
can we make a wowhead article about heads bugs (and throw in a bunch of other stuff)
mighty pivot
this was changed last ptr i think
the flat modifier isn't new, it's been there since always or at least year
torpid fiber
3.5% bug is way less splashy a post than "target capped spec literally isn't even hitting the cap"
daring oxide
maybe we can make an assassination + outlaw combined bug post about all our bugs
daring oxide
3.5% bug is way less splashy a post than "target capped spec literally isn't eve...
ye but with the fix to 3.5% bug, they can fix the other bugs
fix assa bugs
fix outlaw bugs
buff outlaw 22%
etc
can all be done in one fel swoop
i need to get in a bath
clean my soul of outlaw depression
tired rune
lust pull after first boss in HoA I sit at like 15-17m, in 717 gear.. then I get on my 705 hunter and I'm at like 24m
the fact that we suck in AOE and suck in ST and are capped still is just wild to me
craggy jay
tired rune
craggy jay
wintry solar
Did we find a new bug? Seem to be in a worse mood than before.
proven ocean
mighty pivot
popo how is it that you are here 24/7
red zinc
either a college student in lectures or unemployed
gaunt phoenix
the flat modifier isn't new, it's been there since always or at least year
hmm, i think before it added a flat modifier to 2% heads, which 'worked' (or maybe it didnt)
but now its a whitelist of rogue spells
wintry solar
popo how is it that you are here 24/7
I work a job that allows me to do nothing most of the time.
And I work 7 on 7 off
quaint mauve
Did we find a new bug? Seem to be in a worse mood than before.
so basically
heads doesn’t work
jolly geyser
No head for outlaws
wintry solar
There wasn't suppose to actually be a new bug
vivid vessel
daring yoke
Was hoping the new discovered bug is a broken bug that increases our dps 😭
why always braindead specs tend to perform the best 😭😭
mighty pivot
hmm, i think before it added a flat modifier to 2% heads, which 'worked' (or may...
that's what I see as well. Flat modifier made sense when it only affected Fatebound Coin (Heads) (452923) because that one is using a percent modifier. Then they changed it and didn't even test to see if everything is ok 
why even change it tbh
tender wedge
this surely affects assass as well yeah
daring oxide
yeah
so if we can get angry whispyr on board, he can print a wowhead article that brings awareness to the lack of heads and maybe we get fixed this friday
🤞
how does that plan sound
leaden folio
they are actually marketing midnight, they dont care about our dead spec
keen belfry
BUT I DONT BELONGGG TO ANYONEEE
daring oxide
I'll message the wowhead boss
and see if he'll take me on as an independent writer
for this one time
ill write it for free
red zinc
Threequarters of the people here jumped ship and are here for the funny posts anyway (including myself)
red zinc
i havent played a single key of outlaw this season
daring oxide
christ on a bike
mighty pivot
build 11.2.0.62253 (1 aug) was when they made the change
random stirrup
ill craft a weapon and play it soon but idk
dimmy weapon will drop and ill do some terrorism
mighty pivot
@wintry solar
wintry solar
Yo
mighty pivot
no they stretch often
you are probably in shrimp stance when you sit all day
man, github is so dogshit can't even diff files properly
torpid fiber
dw the Australian government is banning github for under 16s
mighty pivot
well then I hope they won't force children to use bitbucket
torpid fiber
depends if they decide bitbucket is a social media or not
mighty pivot
you can leave comments and have discussions in theory...
tired rune
ill write it for free
buddy tell them I'll pay them to pin it to the top of the page
for 24 hours
frail veldt
man, github is so dogshit can't even diff files properly
I prefer gitlab but lowkey they all kinda suck lol
torpid fiber
why
they probably aren't but they sent them a notification that they might be considered a social media platform under the new social media bAn laws
tired rune
I want a pop up to with a link to the article
frail veldt
they probably aren't but they sent them a notification that they might be consid...
LOL
torpid fiber
It's so fucking funny
gaunt phoenix
Famed social media app github
torpid fiber
Kids are having their self-image ruined by the github algorithm recommending repos with lots of stars
frail veldt
yeah Kids just value their self worth in how many MRs they can get in per month
its toxic
and the cyberbullying
with MR approvals
torpid fiber
eSafety described it as an "initial" list, and not all the platforms included on it are certain to be covered by the ban, with the Commissioner continuing to consult with those she considered "borderline".
frail veldt
does this mean I can go after my devops team for harassment when the pipelines fail on swcs not related to my MR?
mighty pivot
I prefer gitlab but lowkey they all kinda suck lol
I don't remember how gitlab handles large files ("large" in this case, because it's 1.1MB) but it wasn't awful when I used it 5 years ago or so
github just seems to be getting worse somehow dunno
torpid fiber
They originally said they would specifically exclude messaging apps and gaming platforms
mighty pivot
no way github is included in there
torpid fiber
Github is by far the funniest though
mighty pivot
absolute clowns
worldly sinew
Sigh I just wanna get some io so I can be cool too.
fallen mural
see this is why its important to get io the season before. Otherwise you ain't getting invited to shit
worldly sinew
I'm 3k+ 🙁 Tryin to get into 13/14s
frail veldt
*Sigh* I just wanna get some io so I can be cool too.
oh how do you get the lifetime version
mine resets on logout
fallen mural
I'm 3k+ 🙁 Tryin to get into 13/14s
i would definitely use ur own key. Since you can get some high io players who just want to get gilded quick at the beginning of the week
later in the week jump into q's
quaint mauve
I'm 3k+ 🙁 Tryin to get into 13/14s
i got declined from 10s i was applying to for weekly
im 3200
severe drift
i got declined from 10s i was applying to for weekly
im 3000, I easily tag in +12 tbf.
Dunno why, I wouldn't accept outlaw
worldly sinew
oh how do you get the lifetime version
frail veldt
ty
frail veldt
i got declined from 10s i was applying to for weekly
same
hasty warren
!def
ornate heathBOT
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red zinc
Now that I don’t play outlaw I decline all outlaws just to see how it feels
Continuing generational trauma
severe drift
evil but legit
mighty pivot
imagine hating your fellow outlaws 
severe drift
it's not hate, it's just legacy
if we hit 0% usage, they might see it in their Excel file lmfao
ocean lodge
Bubbling wax doesn't get any buffs from the rep, right
mighty pivot
it's not a permanent enchant
long barn
What’s the pre pull tech for raid boss
Is there anything or just raid
I mean dungeon
frail veldt
nothing for raid other than give yourself a pre stack of supercharger
frail veldt
imagine hating your fellow outlaws <:weird:718676218500874320>
yeah ngl I wont invite an outlaw either
its not hatred for the players its just acknowledging that the spec isnt useful unless youre a giga pumper
and Im not taking that risk on an lfg rando
id rather take a more dipshit proof spec
mighty pivot
📎 image_1.gif
frail veldt
that actually brings a raid buff
stiff vector
I apply to groups with outlaws in them on my hunter
I know they need a hunter to carry them in phys comp 
frail veldt
rng kings lmao
dps rng is the worst part of outlaw
okay maybe not the worst cuz the list is very long
but rng fucking sucks
pls remove
I want rotational variance not dps variance
mighty pivot
dps variance eliminated: all outlaw attacks now deal 10 damage
long barn
nothing for raid other than give yourself a pre stack of supercharger
AR + KS?
dawn talon
I want rotational variance not dps variance
variance under ~10% is fun
long barn
UB stacks are cleared on boss pull afaik
How do I get the supercharger stacks
frail veldt
I don't like doing less damage while playing better for no reason
frail veldt
How do I get the supercharger stacks
Press rtb
stuck patrol
Variance in damage is fine when you are a burst class
Outlaw is not a burst class
If blizzard wants us to have no burst, there should hardly be any variance in our damage. Outlaw was fun when you could play the rotation and just do consistent damage an entire fight
long barn
Ok
dawn talon
Variance in damage is fine when you are a burst class
Outlaw is not a burst cla...
being low variance is fine, but actual near zero variance is just not fun to play longterm
stuck patrol
You saying it's fun to just randomly do less damage? Huh? LMAO
dawn talon
when you also randomly do more damage just as often, yes
stuck patrol
I don't like it when outlaw requires you to be on the boss at all times for cdr
stiff vector
lol...every pull I swear my character is cursed af, just constant heads.
actually doing compelte piss damage because of this shit
wintry solar
I don't like it when outlaw requires you to be on the boss at all times for cdr
inb4 someone says outlaw has always been like this
but not to this extent
stuck patrol
I mean it always has been like this
wintry solar
its never been this bad
stuck patrol
It's just so fucking bad rn
Let me just
Get a mechanic
Come back
And have my variance dip to the low end
No procs
Very fun
No adr
wintry solar
I really dont think they can realistically make it worse tbh. You could come up with hypothetical ideas but in the context of what blizz could/would do, this is it.
floral compass
Come in here to read up on why my ST Fatebound has such high variance thinking I'm fucking something up
Leave with a depression at the state of this spec
also fuck hunters
mighty pivot
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tired rune
More like five years
stiff vector
I think my character might just be cursed cuz I swear my dmg is complete dogass cuz of shit coin rng more often than not recently
quaint mauve
I think my character might just be cursed cuz I swear my dmg is complete dogass ...
i rolled almost double the amount in heads on fract
cursed doesn’t even get close
stiff vector
like how bad my dmg is when this happens is insane..ive never come remotely close to performing this bad on outlaw ever
quaint mauve
i’m just in shock honestly
but eh
to be expected since we’ve been untouched
maybe they fix the bug now that’s it’s been caught
:)
stuck patrol
I've never been able to find the log, but I remember back in BFA palace against heroic Ashvane, and trolling the entire fight not getting a single good buff, back when rtb costed combo points
It was so statistically unlikely that everyone here called me a liar
And I don't have the log to prove it, but I know it happened bc I was baffled
It's why I hate when RNG is so massive in a spec
Even with low RNG you can just get the worst luck ever
severe drift
liar
stiff vector
the variance isnt really a problem, both DR BM and MM have higher, but its the fact that even with a giga high roll of everything(buffs, ace rng, coin rng) on outlaw...your damage is still ass, and if you low roll you are literally by far the worst spec in the game in raid
and low rolling on outlaw feels way different gameplay wise than something like my DR BM hunter, outlaw just becomes unplayable when you lowroll on top of awful damage
worldly juniper
When was the next patch coming out? the rumoured 
Buff patch
severe drift
how is Tomelvis able to pull up 11m in keys tho?
I didn't pay attention to his keys this season yet
quaint mauve
the variance isnt really a problem, both DR BM and MM have higher, but its the f...
we are pretty low SD no?
stiff vector
I mean we arent "low" but its not super high
quaint mauve
but yeah i agree it sucks when you’re at 6 buffs getting the best procs of your life to be still basically at the bottom on charts
wintry solar
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I get where theyre coming from but a few days is a little crazy >.>
stiff vector
another boss kill with way higher heads than tails 
swear its literally every pull
I forget...do the void circles on mythic araz do dmg to you or can you grapple thru them, been too scared to check lol
severe drift
!macro
ornate heathBOT
Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.
pearl topaz
as much as I do enjoy a lot of how outlaw plays, if they have to simplify it so they are able to actually balance it then so be it
wintry solar
im actually surprised people like the adr looping with subt
quaint mauve
severe drift
adr is what makes outlaw fun imo
quaint mauve
this absolute banger
severe drift
i mean, the low gcd, not the spell itself
cinder relic
al;ways has been
wintry solar
adr is what makes outlaw fun imo
sure but the vessel for high uptime is super cringe
pearl topaz
it really complicates everything, same with the extra combo points
Im not taking fun into account at all, just the way in which these components all come together to create a hard-to-tune mess that by design makes any attempt by Blizz to make complex boss fights just frustrating
severe drift
sure but the vessel for high uptime is super cringe
what grind my gear is the fact even tho you played with your 20 fingers to make the perfect rotation you ever made, you can still lose adr if the rng fucks you over.
Not being rewarded for playing very well is very painful