#outlaw

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vivid vessel
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I removed the damage amp and lust

glass mortar
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they thought u were looking at the whole fight

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u removed the whole fight

vivid vessel
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which is also p3

glass mortar
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its just the patchwerk part of p3

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that has no lust or amp

vivid vessel
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ok sure

glass mortar
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dimi would be an outlaw fight if every single aspect of the fight wasnt the way that it is

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i rest my case

random stirrup
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Should be able to stack grapple hook charges and combine them to get a super long grapple and grapple from plat to plat

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No more flying

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Ezpz

honest sparrow
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Quick question can the coins from fatebound miss?

glass mortar
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they are a projectile that can likely be line of sighted

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but they fly so fast it would be extremely unlikely for that to happen

gaunt phoenix
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Not literally miss but it seems there is a bug where 3-4 tails will fail to deal damage in a typical encounter

glass mortar
gaunt phoenix
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like my last log I had 132 tails buffs but 129 hits

vivid vessel
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skill issue

glass mortar
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did u see where the misses happened

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maybe we can figure it out

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im sure that would be pleasant and easy to find in the log

gaunt phoenix
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it most certainly has to do with our coin stacking shenanigans

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or maybe it is just some logging error tho

timid portal
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the adds on araz are dying so fucking fast

glass mortar
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the important thing to remember about outlaw is that while it may perform poorly on prog on many raid tiers and fights, its almost always even worse on farm

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especially in a season where the only thing making it not bottom of the barrel on overall is fights it can pad aoe

timid portal
glass mortar
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mhm

copper radish
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Can we discuss how fatebound is outlaw related lmao

midnight agate
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Man. They need to bring back personal loot + extra rolls. Fuck NBG

gaunt phoenix
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hmm looking at the buff events it might just be a logging error

copper radish
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Trickster I get. Never got fatebound

glass mortar
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how about we discuss how fatebound is wow related

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remember the fatebinders

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i remember them

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buncha robot nerds in sepulcher going on about fate and whatnot

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thats my power fantasy

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i feel so seen whenever the last boss of ecodome goes "your fate is BOUND"

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like thats me

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im the fatebound

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!!

copper radish
grave carbon
copper radish
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Cannonball guy

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Walk the plank

clear plover
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yo how much haste do we need for outlaw?

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minimum?

copper radish
clear plover
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perfect thanks

vivid vessel
gaunt phoenix
vivid vessel
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i think

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its the first seconds of the fights

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that can be messed up if ytou start early idk

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well

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you wouldnt pull the boss yourself tho

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so idk

quaint mauve
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wise words from longnamelock

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indigo token
quaint mauve
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vivid vessel
honest sparrow
copper radish
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That’s outlaw new hero spec

remote pecan
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;9

vivid vessel
copper radish
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Violating the terms of service smh

rocky kiln
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!fuu

ornate heathBOT
frail veldt
frail veldt
vivid vessel
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idk but its better that way no ?

frail veldt
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lol

copper radish
indigo token
frail veldt
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playing outlaw might be against tos

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for intentionally throwing

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ngl

copper radish
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Discriminating against outlaw is def against tos

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Bout to find out next time someone boots me with that. Screenshot right to blizz

frail veldt
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throwing keys should be reported

copper radish
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Blizz gonna have a conundrum. Ban the people kicking outlaws or just ban all the outlaws

frail veldt
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well one of those populations is 100 fold the other

red zinc
copper radish
keen belfry
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if they arent uncapping gildeds do i even have to sit on my runed crests anymore

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i wonder if they are uncapping

red zinc
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It usually gets uncapped at 900 or somethin

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Idk what we’re at now

keen belfry
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630

vivid vessel
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idk they didnt announce it

red zinc
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I mean

vivid vessel
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while they detailled everything else

red zinc
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In 2 weeks we’re at 810 then

vivid vessel
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i do think the uncap + syperboost is like

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very very cringe

keen belfry
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yeah they didnt explicitly say "uncapped crests" like they did last tier

vivid vessel
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but i think superboost is cringe by default

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like when can i start doing real end season keys

keen belfry
vivid vessel
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if we are forever grinding ilvbl

red zinc
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like

keen belfry
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like 180 every week or so

red zinc
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if they just increase the ilvl cap

keen belfry
vivid vessel
red zinc
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People wont suddenly play more

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no

keen belfry
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or, a longer peak

vivid vessel
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which is what superboost + no uncap does

frail veldt
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tbh it could just be gradual

vivid vessel
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you have to keep grinding forever

frail veldt
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every 3 weeks they up the cap

vivid vessel
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it legit never ends

keen belfry
red zinc
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I think the optimal solution for blizzard player numbers is like

frail veldt
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would be a lot cleaner

vivid vessel
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no it wouldnt

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m+ by design

red zinc
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180/270 a week when turbo boost starts

vivid vessel
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need a finished

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set of gear

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you cant keep going up perma lol

frail veldt
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yeah that will still happen

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well yeah obv stop at some point

vivid vessel
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also it make it so people like me are perma ahead

red zinc
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if they wanted to minmax retention

frail veldt
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ideally at the 0.7 patch

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thats when it should all be done

vivid vessel
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like my feral is 5 ilvl behind me

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yiou think he is catching up ?

frail veldt
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yes?

vivid vessel
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no he aint

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not if they dont uncap gilded

frail veldt
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he will catch up eventually

vivid vessel
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its going to take him forever

frail veldt
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the shit part is the vault rng

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for getting myth track

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imo

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as a m+ main

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thats the worst part

red zinc
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If lizzard doesnt change the cap structure for turbo boost

frail veldt
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has nothing to do with crests

slate forge
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No raid no mythic gear big sad

red zinc
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Their player retention team is literally dumb

vivid vessel
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idk

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kinda cringe

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like you get lucky

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you just have infinite gilded

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like i did this season

keen belfry
# vivid vessel you cant keep going up perma lol

i mean if you get an extra 360 crests in 2 weeks isnt that max upgrade? idk the exact number needed to upgrade every slot by 2.

30 crests for 16 slots = 16 x 30 480, ok so give us 240 crests each week

vivid vessel
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i legit took 4/5 717 vualts

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like ??

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ok buddy

red zinc
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and yet you still do no dam

keen belfry
frail veldt
red zinc
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They are just balancing your class by the gear you get

frail veldt
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the vault is the problem here

red zinc
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Insane balancing method

vivid vessel
frail veldt
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vault is inherently broken in terms of gearing

vivid vessel
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its the new vault system

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that is even worse

frail veldt
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ye def

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well they need dinars sooner

vivid vessel
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it increase the rng and the gap between raider and not

frail veldt
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tbh

vivid vessel
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x10

frail veldt
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and

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its fucking INSANE

vivid vessel
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like i cant even take a mythic+ vault anymore

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that shit is useless

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for like

frail veldt
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that m+ players dont have a reliable way to get myth

vivid vessel
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10 weeks straight

frail veldt
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other than shitty hard mode

red zinc
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idk why myth track is so long now

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No cap

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it was 6 ilvls extra up until df s3

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now its 13

frail veldt
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its kinda silly how many systems are designed around protecting raiders from themselves so they arent forced to do a million different splits

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otherwise we coul djust have myth track loot drop from high enough m+ like 1 or 2 times per week

red zinc
frail veldt
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and we could remove the shitty myth raid lockout

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lowkey

red zinc
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Like the hard content only opens 2 weeks later

frail veldt
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fuck mythic raid lockout

red zinc
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For the split runners

frail veldt
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what an awful system

vivid vessel
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waht does mythic lockout defend from

frail veldt
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splits

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in mythic raid

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afaik

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that was what guy said at least

vivid vessel
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peopole did splits this tier

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in mythic

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i guess you would always pslits the first few bosses

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then

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idk

frail veldt
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yeah

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once youre doing prog

vivid vessel
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mthic lockout is cringe anyway

frail veldt
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you cant do splits

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mythic lockout is giga cringe

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like

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let me play the fucking game

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oh a players power went out

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guess im done mythic raiding

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FOR THE WEEK

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like holy shit

red zinc
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idk itll be strange asf for top 10 guilds

frail veldt
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thats fine

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then have it start

red zinc
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i mean the staggered raid openings

frail veldt
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like after hall of fame

red zinc
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Like the proposed structure is that saldahaar / dimmy would open in week 3

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If youd equate it to this tier

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i find that weird asf

frail veldt
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its so unbelievably difficult to mythic raid as a player who cant just commit 4 hours in one sitting

frail veldt
red zinc
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yes

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The first two raids dont have “difficult” bosses

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Final boss of voidspire would be equivalent to fractillus in terms of raid placement

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Is what theys aid

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And then the 3rd raid opens later with a “noticable spike in difficulty”

clear plover
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guys, when do we use killing spree?

frail veldt
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hmmm

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that means they have separate lockouts?

red zinc
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No

frail veldt
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weird

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oh what

red zinc
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Its 6/1/2 split

frail veldt
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hmmmmm

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interesting

red zinc
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Rwf voidspire will be rwf fractillus LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOO

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so hype when you say it like that

frail veldt
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theyre def gona have to make sure they have the difficulty progress properly

quaint mauve
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i have 3 midterms next week

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i just started my trial with a guild

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what timing

red zinc
quaint mauve
midnight ridge
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!fuu

ornate heathBOT
red zinc
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mom is free

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lock in

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dynamics not so much

worthy elm
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hello vault

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copper radish
worthy elm
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sure but i dont have a prism

mighty pivot
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tuning's being announced in a few hours from now Okay 100% real and true

frail veldt
copper radish
frail veldt
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oh and

copper radish
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0 trickster changes

frail veldt
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"fixed a bug causing multiple abilities to benefit from double jeopardy"

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blizz has a pattern for outlaw

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if theres a bug that benefits our dps

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it will get patched as the highest priority

fervent garden
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'

frail veldt
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over any other change

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to the spec

quaint mauve
mighty pivot
copper radish
mighty pivot
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they are 100% real and legit

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an outlaw wouldn't lie

slate forge
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Where can I invest In these coins?

red zinc
indigo token
floral compass
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Is our ST just fucking ass now??

vivid vessel
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yuh

formal abyss
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is it worth taking a mythic cursed idol over mythic pacemaker? when do we use the cursed idol

mighty pivot
gaunt phoenix
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Just on cd after stealth, not in stealth

formal abyss
quaint mauve
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ignore answers there i was lowkey guessing

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but

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ughhh

mighty pivot
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outlaw channel is now homework science channel pepescience

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imperial unit science channel

quaint mauve
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all i got in my system is coffee and frozen burritos man

vernal pawn
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do we still want the weekly cudgel for keys?

frail veldt
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So put that in relative terms

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How many attempts do you get

red zinc
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so no random people that signed up I guess

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vivid vessel
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you sign up for beta

red zinc
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I swear they handed out some random alpha codes last time

vivid vessel
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has there been a dungeon more bugged

frail veldt
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Looooool

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Yeah all the aoes on the stairs are also super broken

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It genuinely is

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The worst dungeon

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Or when first boss gets the spiral mechanic not centered on her hitbox lolololol

worldly sinew
daring oxide
quaint mauve
rare rapids
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!fuu

ornate heathBOT
quaint mauve
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genuine propaganda to make me suffer

wide flare
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!wa

ornate heathBOT
floral compass
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!fuu

ornate heathBOT
real falcon
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Is 55% mastery too high for outlaw

quaint mauve
real falcon
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Figured

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Trying to get it down

quaint mauve
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i think we have the worst mastery effect in the game

vivid vessel
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guys ..

real falcon
quaint mauve
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zac

wide flare
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what happened

vivid vessel
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ok so

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I go into first pack

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flood

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i get insane rng right

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Im thinking

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its my moment

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im blasting right

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I look down the metters

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im under tank

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isnt that crazy

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like i got turbo tier set procs

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quadruple coup

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fucking

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6 buffs

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perma

wide flare
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feels bad man

fluid iron
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you were creeping up on him

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also have you just tried hitting more than 8 mobs?

vivid vessel
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I swear thats peak outlaw rng tho

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im confused

haughty wigeon
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TO BE FAIR

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oop caps

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to be fair, that is more than 8 targets

vivid vessel
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where is fair

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i dont see nothing fair here

haughty wigeon
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:) i like how fury has a way to go past 8 mobs now

vivid vessel
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i was doing fine in s2

haughty wigeon
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and outlaw cant

vivid vessel
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also 15 targets

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barely above

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its not like it was floodgate first pull

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or whatever the fuck

worldly shale
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friends i just did hc hunters to see what i can parse

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i procd

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broadside

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twice

haughty wigeon
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new brew is also

worldly shale
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twice

haughty wigeon
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insane

worldly shale
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twice

haughty wigeon
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and alot easier to do damage on, plus uncapped :3

fluid iron
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failed tuning if a dps loses to a tank on dmg

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in any scenario

wide flare
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getting good rng but shit damage is just wrong

vivid vessel
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nah im sorry but

wide flare
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we should be rewarded for constant gamba

vivid vessel
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in s2

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when i was getting that rng

haughty wigeon
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i feel like blizzard needs to nut up and give on on the target cap shit

vivid vessel
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i was topping that pack

haughty wigeon
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on god

wide flare
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yeah i get you

frail veldt
vivid vessel
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like i would be doing half monksea dps

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with normal rng

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here

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idk

frail veldt
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relative is literally just V_b - V_a

vivid vessel
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stfu you nerd

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we talking about wow

frail veldt
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also in s2 I feel like we were getting that rng all the time

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every pack was good rng

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it was only ever ST that felt bad lol

wide flare
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like if any other class get that kinda rng on those pulls you reaching DPS limits, you there chilling behind tank

vivid vessel
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this is kinda peak s3 rng

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idk

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i feel

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when im getting good rng

frail veldt
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yeah quad coup goes hard

vivid vessel
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on outlaw its easy

frail veldt
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thats the only time im over 20mil

fluid iron
frail veldt
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and damn you kept over 20 for so long

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thats wild actually

vivid vessel
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lets be serious

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you are at 20 mil

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on sub

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without cd

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on this pack

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wdym even

fluid iron
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maybe, havent done any keys really the last 2 ½ weeks

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so probably yeah

vivid vessel
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idk i do sub keys on my alt

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on these type of packs

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i can be half afk

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kinda does infinite damage anyway idk

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if i go in with cds and shit its gg

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would be doing 40 mil fucking bonkers ass

fluid iron
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highest ive peaked to far is 71m

vivid vessel
fluid iron
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thats with the stars in perfect equilibrium yeh

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i just kept proccing coups

vivid vessel
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ye i mean

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thats what happened to me here tho

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haha

fluid iron
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and prism just being a bonkers trinket

vivid vessel
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fking prism

fluid iron
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sub is gonna feel so hollow without that trinket

vivid vessel
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its a fun trinket on sub i will give you that

fluid iron
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only reason it isnt nerfed to the ground is because only like 3 classes play it in raids ong

quaint mauve
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like lets be fr

frail veldt
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idk what it is about sub

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but it feels like all my buttons are super delayed

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feels just awful to play

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maybe theres something super broken in my sub was

quaint mauve
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it feels slow

frail veldt
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yeah but im not talking about overall gcd count

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I mean each button you press

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takes longer to register

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like I will SS

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and it takes like 0.6s for me to get combo points

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idgi

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fucking awful

long barn
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@vivid vessel - it’s only going to get worse. You have perfect gear. Minus some ilvls, we will continue to fall off as others catch up.

vivid vessel
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ah ye forgot im 5ilvl ahead of everyone in the party

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@fluid iron thoughts

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these are the guys gapping me every key when im bis gear already

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long barn
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Yep

indigo token
daring oxide
proven ocean
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cuz u scale 0 with ilvl

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?

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or u not ready yet zac

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Zerossthinking ?

quaint mauve
proven ocean
quaint mauve
vivid vessel
vivid vessel
fluid iron
frail veldt
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damn I was really hoping it would also not have a preview haha

vivid vessel
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fuck

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didnt work

frail veldt
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HAHA

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yeah

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I tried

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I even converted it

vivid vessel
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haha

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idk how it worked for the other one im ngl xd

frail veldt
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me neither

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kinda makes it better

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tbh

vivid vessel
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yoiu have it saved

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?

frail veldt
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yours or the image of zeros?

vivid vessel
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mine ye

frail veldt
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I ssed the zeross message

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oh

vivid vessel
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or well

frail veldt
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nah

vivid vessel
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its solo's

frail veldt
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leme

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see

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imma download it

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then try to resend

vivid vessel
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nah you cant

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you gotta save the og

frail veldt
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ah

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its cuz its a link

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to a discord message

vivid vessel
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ah

frail veldt
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shit that didnt work either

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hmm

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HAHA

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fuck

vivid vessel
frail veldt
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it previewed it

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it was there

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for a second

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yeah you can see it

vivid vessel
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fuuuck

frail veldt
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I think it has to be from like outside of the thread so it cant reference it idk

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oh maybe if I delete the message now?

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damnt

torpid fiber
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I think the reason the original broke is discord cdn jank

vivid vessel
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the links are diff

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I wonder

torpid fiber
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Which takes 3 days

frail veldt
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fuck

vivid vessel
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fuck

frail veldt
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did you try hard coding it to cdn

daring oxide
frail veldt
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darn

vivid vessel
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ok i give up

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i need to sleep

frail veldt
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same were spamming

vivid vessel
vivid vessel
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every tier

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guy legit managed to gaslight me

quaint mauve
vivid vessel
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into thinking it wasnt an issue

quaint mauve
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why am i a gif

vivid vessel
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its only not an issue if blizzard does tuning

frail veldt
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its always an issue

vivid vessel
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do you trust blizzard

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to tune us

frail veldt
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hardly

vivid vessel
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appropriately

worldly shale
vivid vessel
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i dont

daring oxide
daring oxide
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So now scaling is an issue!

fluid iron
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any minute now

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cuz surely they saw that what they did to BM was beyond idiotic

daring oxide
fluid iron
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i have faith in them not being "that" dumb

daring oxide
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I can’t tell if this is raccoon sarcasm

fluid iron
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nah i think there is gonna be tuning with the turbo patch again

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and hopefully they take BM out back again

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and ofc that comes with some sub buffs

daring oxide
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Oh for the 7th oct?

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Maybe

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But I’m surprised there’s no dev notes

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Unless my expectations are too far in advanced

fluid iron
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yeh dont think we are seeing anything until a week before

daring oxide
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I lost hope tbh a week ago

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Just been vibing on BM Hunter and playing sub rogue on last two mythic

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To treat the depression

daring oxide
cinder relic
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Turth atom bomb

nova tapir
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opinions on ticking sac trink for m+ keys 15 and above?

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i feel like its the only way i can keep up with prio and st dmg

keen belfry
vivid vessel
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Say they do tuning before turbo boost

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And buff outlaw

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To be normal spec

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When people get + 20 Ilvl

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Do you think they are going to tune again to account for that

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No they won't

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Anywya I'm sleeping

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I have neck in vault

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I decided I wanted neck rather than the trinket

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Cause neck comes lower illvl

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So it's a bigger gilded save

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And then I can be 730 ilvl next week

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Bb

elder phoenix
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idk how to get rid of

vivid vessel
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Moot

elder phoenix
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the .02

vivid vessel
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Legit

elder phoenix
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QQ

vivid vessel
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Stfu

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You are either stupid

elder phoenix
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How do i get rid of it

vivid vessel
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Or Perma baiting

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Like

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Stop

frail veldt
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cant fight the maths

elder phoenix
frail veldt
fluid iron
elder phoenix
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I mean wrong is only perspective. If you think about it. Some people still think that the earth isnt flat and to flat earthers thats just wrong

frail veldt
fluid iron
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facts

cinder relic
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Wrong isn't perspective

frail veldt
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thats a bad example

cinder relic
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Only room temp IQ people think that

elder phoenix
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Thats wha tim saying

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to flat earthers were all wrong

cinder relic
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They are morons

frail veldt
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I think guy was implying here that scaling is meaningless IF blizzard does tuning

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if im remembering hte context of the conversation

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which is fair

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but

vivid vessel
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I think there is a big overlap between flat earther and people that think scaling is fake

frail veldt
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they didnt tune

vivid vessel
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Thoughts

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Mewo

frail veldt
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theres an overlap

vivid vessel
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Also moot is 100% a flat earther

frail veldt
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oh for sure

vivid vessel
frail veldt
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seems like the kinda person who will say we never went to space

fluid iron
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im a flat bread'er

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shit goes hrd

frail veldt
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does focaccia count?

vivid vessel
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Flat bread?

frail veldt
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cuz focaccia fucking slaps

fluid iron
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ill make an exception cuz that alos goes hard

vivid vessel
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You mean NA bread or what

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Fake bread

frail veldt
#

no

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flatbread is middle eastern i think

daring oxide
#

I like sourdough bread

frail veldt
#

historically

daring oxide
#

Tasty

vivid vessel
#

Wtf is flat bread

fluid iron
#

flat bread

daring oxide
#

Flat bread is bread that’s flat

fluid iron
#

duh

daring oxide
#

Like

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Imagine bread

frail veldt
#

zac u good?

daring oxide
#

But flat

vivid vessel
#

Ah I see

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Fake bread from na

daring oxide
#

Not like baguette that’s like not flat

vivid vessel
#

The na bread

daring oxide
#

No flat bread is more like

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Greek

frail veldt
#

no its not from NA lol

daring oxide
#

Or turkey

vivid vessel
#

Vai you eu? Forgot

daring oxide
#

Or Arabic bread

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I am UK

vivid vessel
#

Oh nice

daring oxide
#

Basically eu

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I’m next door to you

vivid vessel
#

You can join the outlaw neighborhood

daring oxide
#

I will

fluid iron
vivid vessel
#

Mewo can't since he is a na cuck

frail veldt
#

p sure they were making flat bread before france existed

daring oxide
#

Cos housing is all we can do while we are un-tuned

frail veldt
vivid vessel
#

Flag bread is just bread for flat earther

quaint mauve
daring oxide
#

Flag bread?

frail veldt
vivid vessel
#

Not rogues

frail veldt
#

flat bread is earth shaped bread

daring oxide
#

Is that USA bread?

frail veldt
#

dont you understand

vivid vessel
#

Just outlaws

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Fuck all the other rogues

quaint mauve
#

im robbing all of you once i touch down in the eu

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pickpocket macro ready

random stirrup
vivid vessel
daring oxide
#

Zac I went sub for nexus king and dimmy, does this make me a traitor to outlaw?

vivid vessel
#

Farm doesn't matter

daring oxide
vivid vessel
#

It's keys tuning that is important after prog

vivid vessel
#

That makes you not a troll

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Gg

random stirrup
#

ya well we know they dont care about keys lol

daring oxide
#

Gg

random stirrup
#

see: boomie and mage

vagrant minnow
#

is the 4 set for outlaw that much of a damage increase?

fluid iron
vivid vessel
#

Ok bye fuck you guys

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Fuck you stealthy

daring oxide
vivid vessel
fluid iron
#

im busy playing skate

daring oxide
#

Dream about it

fluid iron
#

cant touch me

dawn tundra
#

So, my vault isn't good this week. It's all gear that's lower Item Level than what I've got and it's shoulders (which I already have the appearance of and can catalyst.), a helm, and wrists. Which do I pick?

vivid vessel
#

I'm getting neck in vault or stealthi is a little bitch

vagrant minnow
#

hmm i see the damage increase from 2 set the 4 set just feels weird to me idk

vivid vessel
#

Mark my word

daring oxide
fluid iron
#

cant say shit to me im doing a tri-flip off of a 10 stair right now

#

im untouchable

daring oxide
fluid iron
#

yes

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according to google that is

daring oxide
#

The focaccia I always get looks like this

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Quite thick

frail veldt
#

thats weird

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focaccia isnt risen

daring oxide
#

Really?

frail veldt
#

for nearly as long as other bread

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no its like a quick bread

daring oxide
#

It’s all they sell here in London

frail veldt
#

I mean it rises when you bake it

daring oxide
#

These big focaccias

frail veldt
#

but thats like what makes focaccia focaccia afaik

daring oxide
#

Maybe it’s a bougie thing

fluid iron
#

it should be about finger joint high

daring oxide
#

Hmm my mind is blown lol

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I need to find proper focaccia

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My mission tomorrow

frail veldt
#

it can rise when baked I think

elder phoenix
frail veldt
#

but I believe after you "rise" your dough you reflatten it into the pan

elder phoenix
#

am i doing it right?

fluid iron
#

i usually make sammy's with it

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frail veldt
#

so good on like a pulled chicken sandwich or something

fluid iron
#

yuup

daring oxide
quaint mauve
#

i wanna make bread now

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tap in if you wanna make bread with me

keen belfry
#

hey team

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law or sub for forge reclear tn

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i literally shit on forge for boss dam on our first kill

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would kinda be sad to play law right guys?

elder phoenix
#

did i wint he game?

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did i cook?

#

am i locked in?

keen belfry
#

that shits ass

elder phoenix
#

Not if your assasination

keen belfry
#

prism exists for assa too

elder phoenix
#

Im okay with 2 on use trinkets

quaint mauve
keen belfry
#

i fucked up the adds and boss as sub

elder phoenix
#

GOTTA LOCK IT BRO

keen belfry
#

what a cringe spec

quaint mauve
elder phoenix
bright crane
#

my hunter getting love 🙁

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red zinc
#

This game better give me antenna or prism tomorrow man

frank bane
#

oops all trinkets

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vagrant minnow
#

whats an ideal uptime % for adrenaline rush in any mythic plus run

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i mean 100% ofc but like whats a realistic number to shoot for as someone learning outlaw

vagrant minnow
gaunt phoenix
#

maybe not in dawnbreaker

vagrant minnow
#

oof i got work to do

#

just had 71% in ara kara

gaunt phoenix
#

Rip

vagrant minnow
#

although it was kinda scuffed we wiped on the last boss and i was dead on the 2nd pull cuz the healer was new and was having a hard time lol

gaunt phoenix
#

Lol yea i don't look when i die

vagrant minnow
#

before the messy end it was 80-85% so i think thats pretty good for my 3rd key as outlaw dracthyr_shrug

wintry solar
#

Gm solo

vagrant minnow
#

the overall is breaking my brain when looking at my damage. ive been a DK main (Mostly unholy) since end of BfA and having blade flurry show as like 50%+ of all damage is not computing lmao (i mean iget why cuz how blade flurry works but still)

gaunt phoenix
#

This makes me so sad

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gaunt phoenix
red zinc
#

hi solo

gaunt phoenix
red zinc
#

A DUEL

gaunt phoenix
#

rng duel

wintry solar
#

WOW

gaunt phoenix
#

WOW

wintry solar
#

@mighty pivot goodmorning

craggy quiver
#

Good seed

gaunt phoenix
#

Nice

rocky kiln
#

!fuu

ornate heathBOT
gaunt phoenix
#

what happened here...

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wintry solar
#

Outlaw in BFA be like

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/s

glass mortar
#

U played vanilla for abit

#

It happens

frail veldt
#

You have over 1.5% more 5 buffs than I do

wintry solar
#

20 zebras in and only 2 hooves

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🫠

gaunt phoenix
#

Why is tails buff legit 3x better than tails

#

Are we stuck with this for another year

glass mortar
#

hmm

gaunt phoenix
#

heads

glass mortar
#

which one is heads

gaunt phoenix
#

heads is heads

glass mortar
#

the second

gaunt phoenix
#

ye

glass mortar
#

putting a tiny stacking damage amp on such a linear profile is funny and blizz sucks ig

#

look at them giving me an actual decision to make

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if i pick this neck i gotta redo all my stats again

#

actually the necks a bait theres no way i can turn most of that haste back into vers

#

tier shoulders it is

wintry solar
#

They should uncap conquest on season launch so I can get full vers gear on day 1 and not have to pvp the rest of the season

#

But only for me though. I only I get uncapped conquest.

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On launch

frail veldt
#

How does heroic lockout work

#

if I join a group thats currently on araz

#

do I have to participate in a kill to get on their lockout

glass mortar
#

u only get locked to bosses

frail veldt
#

well I want the lockout

#

so I can skip to soulhunters

glass mortar
#

uh

frail veldt
#

so how does the lockout work

glass mortar
#

i think u need to kill all the bosses up to soulhunters to do that

#

i dont think heriocs have "lockouts"

frail veldt
#

hmmmmmm

glass mortar
#

the lockout is based on what bosses r dead in the openers weekly

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iirc

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like ull open an instance with those ones dead

frail veldt
#

aite so I gotta join a fresh

#

damn

deep sequoia
#

!wa

ornate heathBOT
deep sequoia
#

anyone have a weakaura for fatebound coins?

frail veldt
#

am I fucking up the macro or something

#

my damage was piss

desert tendon
#

mewo i hope your hand is getting better and stronger everyday

frail veldt
#

need to revissit doc on it

desert tendon
#

Pic or fake

frail veldt
#

such a beggar lol

desert tendon
#

this is my favorite internet meme ngl

frail veldt
#

its p funny hahaha

desert tendon
#

i know foot, hear, heel, lot of kinf of fetish

#

but hand's in a rogue discord, is probably the only one ever

frail veldt
#

hands would be something here

desert tendon
#

Guy started it all

#

with his giant fingers happy_holiday_pepe

fluid cobalt
#

H Soulbreaker's Sigil outsims H Antenna on Single or Cleave? Is the Delve Sigil like BIS heroic trinket?

gaunt phoenix
#

it should win single target

#

for me they're the same at 2 target

fluid cobalt
#

With 15% miss - should've clarified

quaint mauve
#

guess its another day of not playing

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teal wing
#

maybe delete filter

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and chose a more suitable time than 5am

buoyant cosmos
teal wing
#

uganda yea

#

why u know

buoyant cosmos
#

I'm in Tanzania rn lol

teal wing
#

doin shady stuff ig

buoyant cosmos
#

Eating breakfast fr

teal wing
#

same

buoyant cosmos
#

What's your ping like? I assume you play on EU

teal wing
#

3k

buoyant cosmos
#

Huge

teal wing
#

in japan i had 5k

quaint mauve
#

looking for my last key for resil

#

i got an invite

#

:)

teal wing
#

play your own key

#

how else would you play as outlaw anyway

gray lichen
#

!coup

indigo token
buoyant cosmos
quaint mauve
#

its not like im not getting invites

#

im getting invites

#

also why can i get targeted by leaps when im stealthed

#

and why do they break my stealth

#

like fuck this cancer game

wintry solar
#

Uhuh will be gone next expac don't worry

fleet dew
#

can anyone that is good with sims help me

ripe ibex
fleet dew
#

i want to sim the best use of my crests wheter do i craft or upgrade things

#

can u sim it for me?

ripe ibex
#

yeah but generally upgrade myth > craft > upgrade heroic

quaint mauve
#

bro why

#

i swear ive never seen this bh4

worldly juniper
#

How's the pure verse ring for us?

#

Or would we just go for the Bis List JC rings

#

Aside from sim it.

sour harness
#

yo guys should i craft weapons or just get them? theyre 681 and 658 i cant do mythic+ raids im still new but my ilvl is 686

quaint mauve
#

720 main hand very important

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offhand whatever

sour harness
#

what should i craft? sword mace dagger etc

frail veldt
sour harness
#

the siphoning dagger or

#

somethijng else

glass mortar
#

law cant use dagger in mh

sour harness
glass mortar
#

doesnt matter as long as its a slow 1hander with agi

#

just dont craft an int weapon or a dagger

#

dagger can be crafted for oh

sour harness
#

whats oh

glass mortar
#

off hand

sour harness
#

yeah so should i craft a dagger of offhand?

glass mortar
#

if ur crafting an offhand then a dagger is fine

#

other weapons are also fine

#

make sure u do ur mh at the highest ilvl u can first

#

its way more important

sour harness
#

my main hand is 681, if i craft the dagger itll be 678

#

or 691

glass mortar
#

whatever u can that ends u with the highest ilvl mh

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it wont stay that low for long anyway since itll be the first item u wanna upgrade with gilded

sour harness
#

zawesome

keen belfry
#

thoughts guys?

Medal_xPg0HA7pDP.gif
#

360p

wintry solar
#

Sometimes when I feel nostalgic I'll bring my graphics way down for a little bit

#

By a little bit I mean 5 minutes because it's awful

dawn talon
keen belfry
#

whys my feral a blaster now

dawn tundra
#

Welp. I'm just bad.

frail veldt
#

I form a non leahter heroic group and this is what I get man lol

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#

fucking rip

dawn tundra
#

Fuck it. I give up. I can't do DPS as Outlaw for shit, even after all this time and everybody's advice.

#

All of the time trying to figure out my rotation while trying to do Heroic Raid stuff on top of it while trying to make sure I don't run out of energy (and FAILING like an absolute idiot.) and hey, what do you know, I'm STILL at the bottom of the DPS charts against bosses.

frail veldt
#

never give up

#

unless you arent having fun

#

then thats fair

dawn tundra
#

I JUST WANT TO DO DPS BUT I CAN'T AND IT MAKES ME FUCKING MAD! I WANT TO PLAY THIS CLASS AND DO THE BIG DICK DPS SO I CAN GET PAST THIS STUPID RAID AND NEVER TOUCH HEROIC RAIDING AGAIN! I DO GOOD IN TIMEWALKING AND MAX LEVEL DELVES, BUT FOR THE L I F E OF ME I CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THE STUPID MAGIC DAMAGE CALCULATIONS IN ORDER TO BE A D E C E N T OUTLAW ROGUE!

lime lake
dawn tundra
#

I JUST want to play the class and be good at it, but no matter what I try to follow, I'm getting overwhelmed between having to focus on my cooldowns and ensuring I have them on cooldown while ALSO doing all of the boss mechanics AND trying to stay on top of energy managment. But no. Everybody else here gets it! They all know how to play Outlaw as Raiders! But I seemingly CAN'T. I CAN'T understand this class, apparently, and it makes me HATE myself because this is my main and it makes me feel worthless that I CAN'T DO THE DPS THIS CLASS IS SUPPOSED TO!

wintry solar
#

I JUST WANT TO DO DPS BUT I CAN'T AND IT MAKES ME FUCKING MAD! I WANT TO PLAY THIS CLASS AND DO THE BIG DICK DPS SO I CAN GET PAST THIS STUPID RAID AND NEVER TOUCH HEROIC RAIDING AGAIN! I DO GOOD IN TIMEWALKING AND MAX LEVEL DELVES, BUT FOR THE L I F E OF ME I CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THE STUPID MAGIC DAMAGE CALCULATIONS IN ORDER TO BE A D E C E N T OUTLAW ROGUE!

worldly juniper
#

I JUST WANT TO DO DPS BUT I CAN'T AND IT MAKES ME FUCKING MAD! I WANT TO PLAY THIS CLASS AND DO THE BIG DICK DPS SO I CAN GET PAST THIS STUPID RAID AND NEVER TOUCH HEROIC RAIDING AGAIN! I DO GOOD IN TIMEWALKING AND MAX LEVEL DELVES, BUT FOR THE L I F E OF ME I CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THE STUPID MAGIC DAMAGE CALCULATIONS IN ORDER TO BE A D E C E N T OUTLAW ROGUE!

wintry solar
#

He cooked with this one ngl

worldly juniper
#

!prekey

ornate heathBOT
#

Pre-key fuckery

  • rtb RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
  • Just before key placement use adr AR into ks KS to get rtb Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
  • ks KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
  • During the bubble, DO NOT rtb RTB or recast adr AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
  • After the bubble drops use rtb RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
  • Before entering the first pack bf BF into stealth Stealth.
  • Open onto the pack with adr AR into bte BtE.
frail veldt
#

energy management is not a thing very much on outlaw

#

you can ignore it

#

sometimes you run out of energy

#

but you dont play around it

worldly juniper
#

Someone make a one button macro for the prekey fuckery for max laziness, thanks

dawn tundra
hardy thicket
frail veldt
#

which hero talent are you playing

#

cuz unfortunately they play a little different

dawn tundra
#

FST.

#

Fatebound Single Target. I failed on Loom.

frail veldt
#

kk so as fatebound in ST your builder rules should be very simple

#

use PS when <=3 cp (if you dont have broadside or you have max stacks) or <=1 with broadside up, otherwise SS is your builder

gaunt phoenix
#

This game is not worth crashing out over brother

frail veldt
#

Vanish rules are also pretty simple, you vanish only when you have GS ready and at 6cp, if you have adr also ready then you vanish at low cps and use the macro pinned in the channel to open from stealth with

#

I'd focus on doing a couple of the basic stuff right first and not worry about any nuance

#

then add on extra rules as you go

#

but yeah also what solo said, if its not fun then give yourself a break

dawn tundra
frail veldt
#

you got pleeeenty of time for aotc

quaint mauve
#

i think

#

im done

#

until .5

wintry solar
#

Retail is remix waiting room tbh

gaunt phoenix
#

i'm not sure what to say, i don't think i'm good at this

quaint mauve
wintry solar
#

Smooth seas don't make a good sailor

quaint mauve
#

bro

gaunt phoenix
#

you said you're autistic. so i'm not sure you should be quite so hard on yourself by struggling with this