They dont got funnel
#outlaw
red zinc
glass mortar
i thought bm just did free aoe while doing its st off some dumb pet cleave stuff
idk about funnel
red zinc
yes
red zinc
They probably even lose damage since their stampede is hard capped 8 targets
vivid vessel
its not targeted?
red zinc
no stampede is a ground effect on in combat mobs
glass mortar
doubt stampede doesnt at least prio their current target
red zinc
tanks do 1 step and you lose dps
glass mortar
thatd be hilarious
red zinc
Shits fire
glass mortar
i dont think that can be the case cause everyone linking bm m+ logs in here comparing prio target dam
bm is always gigablasting
the prio target
and also gigablasting in aoe
red zinc
I mean they just do nutty ST
Idk if its much else
I dont know enough about what the class does i just press buttons and do 11m overall
glass mortar
not even 50m overall while ur rogue struggles to keep up with the tank
smh
that clip man
red zinc
I mean
vivid vessel
prio target
red zinc
Hes doing that dam cause nobody else is icl
hybrid crown
It seems like outlaw isn't the only spec with this problem. Its kinda silly how much of a difference in st some of the aoe builds are
vivid vessel
boss
hybrid crown
I wonder if there's like a statistics chart of differences in patchwerk sim damage while in m+ build across all specs
I bet it's unbalanced af
glass mortar
it is
we didnt think about it cause outlaw has had good ST in dungeon build for like a decade
we almost never made this tradeoff
its not very fun 🙂
glass mortar
innit that their tier thing
vivid vessel
0 damage
glass mortar
yea it can miss
glass mortar
its a ground based aoe thingy
vivid vessel
0
glass mortar
sweet iron
its axis thing if they are upstairs i think
glass mortar
its also a talent maybe?
vivid vessel
its only on a poack
glass mortar
yea it probably suffers from ground based aoe syndrome
glass mortar
meaning theres lots of things that can break it
glass mortar
waxen dome
its a line of beats that charge out of ur character in the direction u were facing when u casted the kc that procced it
its pretty deterministic when it spawns
glass mortar
oh thats even funnier
waxen dome
no rng
glass mortar
but if ur facing the wrong way when it spawns
vivid vessel
so he got skill issued or what
vivid vessel
waxen dome
ye if u face a bad angle it will just spawn in that direction for its entire duration
glass mortar
lmao
waxen dome
but it probs has some los issues ands stuff
vivid vessel
bro got hard skill issued 💀
this the overall btw
15mil details dps
he does twice the damage ofthe outlaw rogue in the first area
hasty warren
is it legal ?
vivid vessel
and twice the prio damage
first miniboss prio damage
and im ngl thats quite good for outlaw
he blasted here
copper radish
Hey that’s the BM whose build I copied for keys 😂
vivid vessel
well ye its banshers
copper radish
That pack leader no multi does so much damage lol
Brain dead to play too nice 1 2 3 action
hasty warren
when buff outlaw
quiet root
doesn't barbed shot sort of funnel as well? like maintaining it on multiple targets gets you more procs of something?
copper radish
doesn't barbed shot sort of funnel as well? like maintaining it on multiple targ...
Yeah more ticks more dire beasts and more kill commands
quiet root
idk i don't play bm (yet despairge)
copper radish
doesn't barbed shot sort of funnel as well? like maintaining it on multiple targ...
The fenryr passive proc averages more than my outlaw finishers. Also criminal
rustic lotus
Yah someone tell me why I’m playing outlaw again?
quiet root
it's fun to play
copper radish
Yah someone tell me why I’m playing outlaw again?
For the culture
quiet root
and outlaw is the ultimate johns spec
if you bottom dps your spec is bad
if you top dps you're a gamer (or the other dps are bad)
copper radish
I don’t get invites on my outlaw anymore even tho he’s a higher ilvl than my BM 😭
quiet root
it's never the case that you, the outlaw player, are bad
other people don't know to look at adr uptime anyway
red zinc
Bro
The stampede doesnt even scale with height properly either
Mfs fighting first boss priory on the stairs shits traumatizing
Just goes in a straight line height wise from where you’re standing and doesnt have a good hitbox under it
copper radish
The stampede doesnt even scale with height properly either
Gotta angle it correctly lol
mighty pivot
first miniboss prio damage
ok but what if the bm player is just twice as skilled? many such cases 🕉️
copper radish
ok but what if the bm player is just twice as skilled? many such cases 🕉️
Skill in pressing 123 in the double stampede window? 😂
There’s a weak aura for that 😂
mighty pivot
red zinc
Theyre lucky bm is broken enough for stampedes to not matter that much
Otherwise they would be even worse than assa rogues in terms of complaining about tanks
copper radish
Theyre lucky bm is broken enough for stampedes to not matter that much
Those stampedes do 10% or more of my overall on keys lol
mighty pivot
your spec can have bugs and do low damage or have bugs and do high damage 
copper radish
Ima blame tanks more when I don’t do insane dmg
wintry solar
I found it at the store omw home. It's not that bad tbh
mighty pivot
popo went out candy hunting
wintry solar
I went to pick up some beef for my week off and saw it at the checkout
old gull
Ima blame tanks more when I don’t do insane dmg
That’s why I can’t play assa, never get a chance to re
mighty pivot
you went for one thing?
mighty pivot
I hope you bought some veggies too
wintry solar
I already have some
mighty pivot
pizza doesn't count as a veggie
copper radish
It does tho ask school lunch
copper radish
Pizza is a tomato apparently
wintry solar
I have onions
copper radish
You def smell like onions
wintry solar
Bro
hybrid crown
Man I'm so glad I didn't miss the pirate day event this year
wintry solar
hybrid crown
I decked my rogue out in pirate shit
wintry solar
I missed it the last 2 years because of my work schedule
copper radish
I decked my rogue out in pirate shit
Shark hat is fun
hybrid crown
I'm pretty much just using the flag but the hat is nice
mighty pivot
you work for 24 hours popo?
hybrid crown
It doesn't look dumb on worgen
mighty pivot
aren't we all eepy princesses
wintry solar
I got that name because I used to be a deputy
copper radish
Watch what you say around this guy lol
wintry solar
Dont
mighty pivot
he used to be a deputy... until the incident
glass mortar
wtf
mighty pivot
this guy is bad influence
glass mortar
popos just big law trying to sell you guys crimes so he doesnt go out of business
dont trust it
😠
mighty pivot
isn't that entrapment?
wintry solar
Listen man
How about we buy some guns with the serial number filed off
And just drive around
mighty pivot
like a tec-9 or mac-10?
glass mortar
what if we... 3D printed guns together under the moonlit sky 
jolly geyser
wintry solar
Be like walter
wintry solar
like a tec-9 or mac-10?
Tec-9 owners should be arrested for owning such a pos
mighty pivot
popo likes outlaw because he can drive by with KS 
wintry solar
Someone said one time "No wonder Popo likes outlaw, he just likes shooting people in the face"
wintry solar
the streets were safer when popo was guarding them
True tho
glass mortar
quaint mauve
popo set my car on fire
mighty pivot
were you horseback or did they trust you with a car
wintry solar
That's irrelevant
glass mortar
popo kicked my dog and stole my discord nitro
wintry solar
Should've clicked the link first before the mods ban them
mighty pivot
not this sus emote again
wintry solar
glass mortar
red zinc
mighty pivot
wintry solar
were you horseback or did they trust you with a car
Crown Vic
mighty pivot
popo did you know that in dutch seals are literally called seadogs? it's very fitting tbh
glass mortar
all dogs r good dogs, even the sea dogs
mighty pivot
seals are too cute (but they might stink dunno)
minor verge
Can we close the discord to get buffs like paladins?
wintry solar
No
mighty pivot
no
wintry solar
Git
minor verge
sad
glass mortar
when I was on fire island on vacation a few weeks ago a seal was swimming up and down the coast looking at swimmers
wintry solar
seals are too cute (but they might stink dunno)
A lot of animals share the same fate
glass mortar
at one point it had a ray it caught and was trying to show it off
wintry solar
Like hedgehogs
mighty pivot
really? hedgehogs are so tiny how can they stink?
wintry solar
Idk, I don't own one.
mighty pivot
I remember reading that otters stink (also very cute)
jolly geyser
I would imagine seal breath would be awful
wintry solar
I love otters
wintry solar
when I was on fire island on vacation a few weeks ago a seal was swimming up and...
To play with?
glass mortar
well nobody was brave enough to play with it but probably more like a cat showing off what it caught
it was tempting ngl
mighty pivot
otters also squeak 
jolly geyser
I love otters
The small species are cute
glass mortar
theres some cute bigger species to
wintry solar
it was tempting ngl
I'd have folded for sure. My red flag is thinking every animal can sense my empathy and won't hurt me.
glass mortar
its just the giant river otters that are nightmare fuel
and honestly they arent so bad people like to share pictures of them mid meal
believe it or not most carnivores dont look so cute when they are in the middle of a bloody snack
jolly geyser
Crazy
wintry solar
It's so sad bears are as dangerous as they are
mighty pivot
if no fren why fren shaped
glass mortar
what a way to go
mighty pivot
life was too unbearable
jolly geyser
They will start eating while u are alive so
glass mortar
i feel like humans are too predisposed to finding dangerous things cute. this must be a recent phenomenon.
we would not have survived as a species this long surely if our ancestors found bears this cute
wintry solar
Maybe we did and just learned our lesson
mighty pivot
it's just that the ones who found things cute didn't survive
wintry solar
But since we live in safer places, we forget.
desert tendon
i feel like humans are too predisposed to finding dangerous things cute. this mu...
you are cute
glass mortar
wintry solar
There's probably a lot of animals we tried to domesticate but couldnt
glass mortar
thats a type of danger
desert tendon
the IQ danger
wintry solar
You were not specific yeah
desert tendon
mighty pivot
call me when we domesticate catgirls and catboys caracals
desert tendon
wtf
wintry solar
I'm going to bed, wake me up when we made bears into house pets.
desert tendon
popo what is this name, what have you done
wintry solar
Dark Sim Spammer
desert tendon
you re dangerous as well
wintry solar
You know what Dark Sim is?
desert tendon
therefor cute
mighty pivot
🦶 popo 🦶
wintry solar
I'm laying in bed with socks on rn
mighty pivot
ew I hope you don't sleep with socks on
wintry solar
I do
glass mortar
??????????
wintry solar
My feet leave from under the blanket and get cold
glass mortar
get a better blanket wtf
wintry solar
And its comforting in a way
mighty pivot
don't you wrap your cover under your feet?
wintry solar
No
mighty pivot
krill issue
glass mortar
listen i was ok with shooting people in the face, but i draw the line at socks in the bed
wintry solar
I like to move my legs
glass mortar
what the fuck popo
mighty pivot
I like to move my legs
you still can!
wintry solar
How do my toes stay extra toasty?
mighty pivot
a duvet can be like 2m+ wide
glass mortar
the blanket keeps them warm
mighty pivot
7 feet in your weird system
glass mortar
socks in the bed is for fall/winter camping only
wintry solar
The boogeyman might nibble on my toes if I don't wear socks to sleep
torpid fiber
Socks in bed is fine for when lying under the blanket to rest but not to sleep imo
mighty pivot
I don't think he wants to do anything with your stinky sock toes
glass mortar
please dont talk about stinky toes, you might get hired by blizzard
wintry solar
They don't stink, they're powdered and stuff.
mighty pivot
it's ok blizzard won't hire me because I like to work from home
wintry solar
They'll hire me
mighty pivot
what will stink more? outlaw under popo's command or his feet?
wintry solar
Yall would love my outlaw
mighty pivot
we would get revealing strike back
torpid fiber
nah popo is boomer but not that boomer
mighty pivot
Are you a closeted combat lover?
you'd have to appeal to the reddit crowd
wintry solar
I don't have to appeal to any crowd
torpid fiber
nah popo is boomer but not that boomer
It's important to be accurate about your opps bc otherwise they get easy dunks
wintry solar
I can just say it's how we at blizz believe it should be.
gaunt phoenix
Popopopopop
wintry solar
Hello solo
torpid fiber
solololololololo
mighty pivot
solo, meet the new rogue dev
torpid fiber
That's right, it's me
wintry solar
Hope you like SBS
gaunt phoenix
revert all commits after shadowlands
mighty pivot
he mistook a beet for cranberry sauce the other day
copper radish
I nominate @wintry solar as the midnight rogue dev
wintry solar
Who thinks about food they don't like?
mighty pivot
well, I hate artichokes but I still remember how they look so that I can avoid them
wintry solar
well, I hate artichokes but I still remember how they look so that I can avoid t...
I couldn't hang on to a grudge like that tbh
mighty pivot
it's more about survival, not necessarily a grudge
copper radish
If you had to rework grapple hook. What would yall rework it into
wintry solar
Leap
mighty pivot
I also hate pickles in burgers btw and I don't trust that they will remove them when I ask them to do, so I have to check
wintry solar
Leap is grapple but works
torpid fiber
If you had to rework grapple hook. What would yall rework it into
Two grappling hooks
wintry solar
Three
copper radish
It’s gotta be something pirate related
Like we shoot ourselves out of a cannon style
wintry solar
Harpoon
mighty pivot
make hook expend energy based on distance and remove its CD
copper radish
I just want cannon animations
Cannonball barrage mastery passive pls or just bring it back in general as a finisher
wintry solar
I also hate pickles in burgers btw and I don't trust that they will remove them ...
That's different tho
wintry solar
make hook expend energy based on distance and remove its CD
Make hook generate CP
uncut stratus
make hook guarantee 2 matches
mighty pivot
like the ones in a matchbox?
wintry solar
Hook increases you dmg by 10%
copper radish
like the ones in a matchbox?
Like the toy cars
torpid fiber
make hook guarantee 2 matches
just bring back the hook torghast talent that gave you 6s of a random defensive on use
mighty pivot
"sorry guys my hook rolled the wrong defensive"
torpid fiber
"sorry guys my hook rolled the wrong defensive"
This was legit how it felt
wintry solar
I hope they give us something crazy, I wanna see how creative they can be.
copper radish
I hope they give us something crazy, I wanna see how creative they can be.
lol
torpid fiber
You'd have a build that generated enough cp to let you hook like every 2gcds so you just hoped you kept rolling evasion
copper radish
Just know whatever they give us. Bugs
wintry solar
Okay I'm done
copper radish
We about to have a new 2 year old bug
tulip quarry
Borderland 4 is fun, and i do not have to worry about abysmal balancing XD That's my solution awaiting for changes 😄
torpid fiber
We about to have a new 2 year old bug
FATEBOUND!!!!!!
wintry solar
Not a matter of if, it's a matter of how bad the bugs will be.
torpid fiber
new hero talent that gives us a swarm of insects we can control
mighty pivot
zerg outlaw
gaunt phoenix
where alpha
wintry solar
Stop bring fun to talk to so I can sleep
torpid fiber
October
wintry solar
October 2nd
mighty pivot
where alpha
popo is right here
gaunt phoenix
Apex talent
wintry solar
I know I am...
mighty pivot
gaunt phoenix
wow
mighty pivot
why did he have that ready guys? guys?
wintry solar
My favorite time of year
wintry solar
why did he have that ready guys? guys?
For this exact topic
My friends and I send it to each other
quaint mauve
those frozen burritos are catching up to me
gaunt phoenix
lmao
glass mortar
deserved
mighty pivot
"friends" 
quaint mauve
my stomach sounds like the vietnam war
glass mortar
My friends and I send it to each other
mighty pivot
is that frozen burrito you had yesterday html5?
quaint mauve
yes
wintry solar
You ever going to finish it?
copper radish
You ever going to finish it?
Go to bed
wintry solar
It's THEIR fault
mighty pivot
🕉️
gaunt phoenix
vivid vessel
No
magic shuttle
truth spitter
vivid vessel
Image_1.gif is better
copper radish
Whose got the bets going that rogue changes aren’t live with alpha
torpid fiber
I'm gonna just start typing image_1.gif
vivid vessel
Stop using that fake shit solo
gaunt phoenix
hm
copper radish
I wanna put money in the bucket that we don’t get changes until beta
mighty pivot
📎 image_1.gif
vivid vessel
You a beta noob
mighty pivot
it's the passcode for the cool yet secret outlaw club
copper radish
I’m gonna stealth into all this player housing and loot everyone’s stuff. Can’t wait
WTB pickpocket on player housing and for friendlies gold
mighty pivot
how about pickpocketing tuning from other specs
where are all the murrican vault pics today btw
wintry solar
Pickpocket bubble
copper radish
Can they introduce it so I can open a vault on one character and send the item I pick to an alt
quiet root
Can they introduce it so I can open a vault on one character and send the item I...
10 rogues angle
mighty pivot
warbound vaults
glass mortar
guys i had a crazy idea for the new turbo charge event to keep players playing longer from it so we dont need to keep adding 6 ilvl mid season
mighty pivot
"I didn't get antenna on all 8 of my vaults"
glass mortar
what if blizz made it so the ilvl cap on stuff went up by another 6 ilvl but it couldnt be upgraded using crestsd
instead it was just rng everytime a piece of gear dropped
if it went up 6 or not
torpid fiber
glass mortar
u could even make it so lower gear could upgrade all the way to mythic quality
@vivid vessel thouts?
copper radish
instead it was just rng everytime a piece of gear dropped
That’s sounds like titan forged
mighty pivot
what a novel idea
glass mortar
surely people would love this
copper radish
No
glass mortar
makes that infinite mythic+ grind infinitly more rewarding
!!!
anything could be an upgrade
lfr could be an upgrade
copper radish
LFR would be crazy if that was the case lmao
glass mortar
keep players consuming all the slop content for possible upgrades
hmm what to call it
its related to the turbo event and its the item being forged higher ilvl
maybe turboforging?
something like that
copper radish
maybe turboforging?
Titanforged
copper radish
Sorry it’s Void Touched
glass mortar
xalatoeforged
stoic brook
wait so reason I sim low st on outlaw is cause outlaw actally doesnt have good st or what?
glass mortar
outlaw indeed does not have terribly great st, but it sims about average iirc
middle of the pack
stoic brook
Damn
I play fire arcane sub fury warr so this was weird to me man doing only 4m on a good day
I simmed myself and thought theres no way with this gear
fiery parcel
Skill issue fr
copper radish
wait so reason I sim low st on outlaw is cause outlaw actally doesnt have good s...
Plain and simple outlaw is bottom of all ST. GG. Cooked
red zinc
Plain and simple outlaw is bottom of all ST. GG. Cooked
wrong
red zinc
holy priest
fiery parcel
I sense malware in the link, fake news
stoic brook
This sim is actually terrible idk how bad is my gear?
red zinc
we fighting the healers now
stoic brook
isnt my gear pretty decent?
gaunt phoenix
it's trickster 1FTH on ST
fiery parcel
Which is terrible for st
copper radish
it's trickster 1FTH on ST
I heard it’s HO fatebound for ST with GSW
fiery parcel
So in raid where you actually run st build it’ll be higher
But in m+ it’s a bit low comparatively
stoic brook
yes its m+ talents
glass mortar
outlaw sacrifices an exceptional amount of ST between its aoe and ST build now
fiery parcel
Yeah, and the talents for m+ suck for st
frail veldt
It can but it's bad at it lol
glass mortar
badly
gaunt phoenix
fatebound in keys is ... experimental
glass mortar
fatebound by design is bad in aoe
and it loses its prio target "advantage" whenever theres aoe
meaning its not even really better at prio
just pure ST
stoic brook
yeah idk I do like 5m as sub and all the mage specs effortlessly in m+ talents
glass mortar
our damage profile this season is extremely gimped and for how gimped it is its not tuned well either
stoic brook
I guess dungeons are diff since bosses are/can be like 2-3 min
glass mortar
you cant do decent aoe and ST at the same time anymore unfortunatly
stoic brook
But we do alot of aoe then or what?
indigo token
where are all the murrican vault pics today btw
i dont wanna play rn
stoic brook
Then what do we do
glass mortar
but u do alot less if u dont play the aoe build
indigo token
play a better game
rotund zodiac
L
glass mortar
well what do u want to do
quiet root
Then what do we do
📎 image_1.gif
glass mortar
u can complain in here daily with us
u can partially quit the game and look to greener pastures for the season (like many of us)
u can play something else thats fun
stoic brook
I have sub gear dont worry
glass mortar
thats good, play what u find fun if ur specs arent doing good damage in keys anyway
i think sins still the strongest spec for us in keys? could give that a try as well if u wanna push higher numbers
keen belfry
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
quiet root
i think sins still the strongest spec for us in keys? could give that a try as w...
isn't it sub?
glass mortar
sacposting
glass mortar
isn't it sub?
not that im aware of
keen belfry
sacposting
ive gotten the sack like 3 times now
fiery parcel
where are all the murrican vault pics today btw
I’m in class rn bruh
thorny zinc
all trinkets man..
thorny zinc
keen belfry
3/3 on sockets this week kinda cooked
red zinc
i just want prism on one character so I can do funny things in tazavesh hm
thorny zinc
I will say the dopamine hit when u press it at 18 is huge
glass mortar
what boss is prism from
i wonder if i have it unlocked for when we get our dinar...
ah rip its fract
quit raiding a week too early 
thorny zinc
pray for a random frac pug and hope it drops 
glass mortar
aintnoway im pugging that boss on mythic
its far to easy, and easily fuckuppable a mechanic for pugs i feel like
those fights r always a nightmare
thorny zinc
copper radish
all trinkets man..
Send that prism to my BM pls and ty
thorny zinc
glass mortar
solo nerfing law???
elder phoenix
have they fix'd the ar+gs bug?
red zinc
aintnoway im pugging that boss on mythic
i mean with turbo boost gear and raid buff it might honestly be puggable
just need a lockout from somewhere and everyone to have WA
glass mortar
maybe, its easier then some of the bosses before it
my main concern would be u get 1 shot to find a pug that makes it all the way there
how often r u gunna find a mythic pug thats just on it
thorny zinc
my guild killed it with 5 pugs like 2 weeks ago but idk if I would call it a pug
glass mortar
maybe itll be more alive then i think after the turbocharge
copper radish
pray for a random frac pug and hope it drops <:prayge:803711491021733888>
Turbo boost mythic pugs bout to be lit
buoyant cosmos
I found it at the store omw home. It's not that bad tbh
That's cool, I think it's seasonal
vivid vessel
@cinder relic nice vault bud gg!
glass mortar
@vivid vessel nice vault bud gg!
vivid vessel
I'm eu you noob
cinder relic
thanks man
red zinc
@vivid vessel nice feet bud gg!
copper radish
Love me some Tuesday vault gooning
scarlet drum
The stone idol is good in aoe right? How is it for single target?
glass mortar
not good
inland acorn
The stone idol is good in aoe right? How is it for single target?
Shite
glass mortar
the 723 one i have barely beats the 704 trinket i was using on ST
decks it in aoe tho so im using it anyway
not like we can do boss damage regardless of the trinket
might as well do more aoe
inland acorn
scarlet drum
might as well do more aoe
Tru. Thanks.
vivid vessel
<@352916297262301194> nice feet bud gg!
Thanks man
I wanna open my vault so bad bro 
I need 2 items
2
Surely I get either
50/50
vivid vessel
That's a skill issue I'm ngl
quaint mauve
pain
vivid vessel
@cinder relic show gear cuh
red zinc
Surely I get either
What if you get both
vivid vessel
Well
Then I have to hold my vault till reclear and that would make me mad I'm ngl
Or I gamble
I would rather only get one and not feel bad about it
Honestly reclearing at the end of the week is kinda annoying
hasty warren
gamble
harsh quartz
anyone else still using the delve belt?
hasty warren
we gambling pirates
vivid vessel
anyone else still using the delve belt?
You probably should
hasty warren
anyone else still using the delve belt?
y
vivid vessel
It's equivalent to an unsocketed 714
hasty warren
only pyth belt are better
vivid vessel
Around that
harsh quartz
yeah I had to buy a boe belt just to get my runed to gilded trade up
what titan disc effect is everyone using?
vivid vessel
Crit
It's nerfed soon tho
I think it's when turbo boost comes out?
The belts will be worthless then
Isn't turbo boost in like 2 weeks or smth
hybrid crown
I just crafted a belt
I wanted titan belt gone because I didn't want to switch from damage proc to crit
glass mortar
19.05%
harsh quartz
12.625 is what I have, showing 19%
glass mortar
oh
like 12600 or something
12560 idr the exact number i found
12575 there u go
thats the exact amount i calculated to hit the cap
harsh quartz
you can hit 19% below 12625 but sims still asked for more until I got it to 12625
glass mortar
12575 should be 19.05% which is the exact amount to hit 25% with ur haste buff stuffs
but sim may want a little more or less depending on what ur giving up for the haste
latent panther
!fuu
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
indigo token
im starting to think we aren't going to get tuned for the remainder of the expansion
cinder relic
why?
cinder relic
<@96834520417828864> show gear cuh
mighty pivot
elder phoenix
yeah guy how dare you not get fed gear/unlucky with vault etc
cinder relic
Taken 2 sockets, still using normal and heroic trinkets, the only pieces of gear I've taken from vault so far have been dungeon gear
so I'm just down a billion crests
elder phoenix
shame on you
red zinc
They beefin
elder phoenix
red zinc
west ridge
wow zac you are so cool
mighty pivot
1 ilvl shirt 
vivid vessel
so I'm just down a billion crests
you should buy boes tho
red zinc
this is all long con to evict zac out of outluh neighborhood on day 2
cinder relic
I got both the chest, and the belt before boes were global
vivid vessel
nice
cinder relic
waiting for entropy to get cheaper before buying it
mighty pivot
the belt is actually even cheaper now 
mighty pivot
I thought it'd be higher already
cinder relic
I mean I got nexus king belt so
theres no crest save there
Chest was from week 1 hardmode
so I spent all the crests that week on it
lol
vivid vessel
<:pepW:762229862550208564>
mighty pivot
zac is a leech enjoyer now I see
cerulean portal
guys, do we use umbush or not?
vivid vessel
im kinda wondering if i buy a belt a second time to get a socket im ngl
red zinc
im kinda wondering if i buy a belt a second time to get a socket im ngl
Seek help
cinder relic
1 mythic prism
mighty pivot
guys, do we use umbush or not?
you don't ambush as KIR build, you do as HO
vivid vessel
<:pepW:762229862550208564>
you know my alt is basically this ilvl if i spend the guildeds
near rock
look man it is what it is
vivid vessel
ye
cerulean portal
what is HO D: magod
near rock
sometimes u just get giga unlucky
mighty pivot
HO = hidden opportunity
cerulean portal
is this HO build?
mighty pivot
that's KIR (keep it rolling)
near rock
I'm barely playing wow to be fair, been taking a break before midnight @vivid vessel
mighty pivot
you never ambush as KIR
cerulean portal
and which spec is better for m+?
vivid vessel
I'm barely playing wow to be fair, been taking a break before midnight <@3529162...
ah i see
near rock
this is the boring af part of the tier
mighty pivot
and which spec is better for m+?
KIR is better this season
keen belfry
have 120 crests to use this week hmm
red zinc
awangawangawangawang
keen belfry
probs max shoulders, and upgrade wrist craft
daring oxide
I have 105 gilded to spend for next week
holy fuck
cinder oxide
WOW these buffs are huge I'm so excited to go home and play outlaw rogue !!!!
slate forge
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
copper radish
have 120 crests to use this week hmm
Rocking the best sword mog that came out of TWW 🔥
elder phoenix
have 120 crests to use this week hmm
wait how are you guys getting 120 crests this week
thought we only get a flat 90 gilded per week?
quiet root
you save 30 from last week
copper radish
Don’t spend them lol
elder phoenix
OH
keen belfry
wait how are you guys getting 120 crests this week
90 + 30
keen belfry
Rocking the best sword mog that came out of TWW 🔥
yeah i feel like im never gonna change my tmog ever
craggy quiver
He's hacking the mainframe
elder phoenix
yeah i feel like im never gonna change my tmog ever
tbh ever since you can transmog
I stopped transmogging
so im wearing default
red zinc
huh?
keen belfry
I stopped transmogging
well if you stopped transmogging before transmogging even came out, you never really started so you never really stopped
copper radish
yeah i feel like im never gonna change my tmog ever
Going for the all white glad mog of this seasons tier. Then using those swords with wraithchill 🔥
elder phoenix
ARE WE BEATING THE CORPSE?
if you were sub probably yes
gaunt phoenix
first pull arakara is weird though i dont think we are hitting dead targets
keen belfry
first pull arakara is weird though i dont think we are hitting dead targets
i just feel like something is going on, but idk what it is
like ill sometimes do 10mil dps with good rolls
then go to next pack with half the mobs and do more dmg
elder phoenix
prob depends on how packed up the mobs are
or your positioning
or the other classes didnt have cds for it
but you do cuz restlress blades
etc or all of the above
or none of the above
craggy quiver
Dunno I always thought it's because the pull starts pretty early but you ain't hitting anything
gaunt phoenix
I think awang is aware of how to position and such
craggy quiver
So dps low or w/e
keen belfry
So dps low or w/e
i was thinking the same, but theres like
my details only counts when YOU start
keen belfry
I think awang is aware of how to position and such
im being mansplained rn
craggy quiver
U sure?
quiet root
my details only counts when YOU start
is that a setting? i don't think that's the default behavior is it?
craggy quiver
Cause I thought it starts when u in combat
So tanks pulls and you it's already counting dps
craggy quiver
Not sure honestly I'm talking out of my ass
keen belfry
i dont know if that would explain it, or would it?
quiet root
it starts when someone hits a mob i think
keen belfry
since combat starts at the top of the stairs
craggy quiver
It's what I assume lol
keen belfry
im just so confused so many times im like hmm 11mil dps interesting!
i played that pretty well too!
fiery parcel
rip
craggy quiver
im just so confused so many times im like hmm 11mil dps interesting!
Happens to me every time too
fiery parcel
seeing myself at the bottom all the time would tilt me also
quiet root
im just so confused so many times im like hmm 11mil dps interesting!
happens to me decently often too, but specifically first pull ara i think the long gathering time is the main factor
keen belfry
yeah, but then i see burst specs still hitting 30
but maybe theyd hit 50 instead?
if it was normal gather
quiet root
i mean they hit those numbers in gambit too
maybe gambit is a bit of an exception but ara has a lot of mobs in that pull too
keen belfry
problems will arise
antenna is not that crazy lil cuh
you wont equip it and be like hmmm i blast now
buoyant cosmos
show damage taken or smth
I only have the current pull showing and it tilts my friends when I stream for them
buoyant cosmos
you wont equip it and be like hmmm i blast now
That's prism frfr
quaint mauve
you wont equip it and be like hmmm i blast now
it’s a .3 upgrade
and sigil is .5
idgaf abt what it does
i care abt what sims say
i have dick and balls for trinkets rn
i’ll take mythic helm ig
jovial sedge
does anyone have the ara kara singularity weakaura ti link?
thorny zinc
did that boss do the little knockup towards the end in s1? thats usually when I grapple but I dont remember the knockup
hasty warren
@gaunt phoenix is it possble on route sim to add pi on specific pulls ?
gaunt phoenix
im not sure
hasty warren
idk if there a pi=1 thing
blissful zinc
gaunt phoenix
with no raidbuffs buffs except lust
can you beat tomelvis https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aDYvpJi7R7TSzBTYHuXFxB
copper radish
Bro said we measuring 🍆
desert tendon
have 120 crests to use this week hmm
show us your mage now betrayal
keen belfry
show us your mage now betrayal
my mage is same gear! he only did 4 dungeons last week
last week was my feral druid arc
jade abyss
I asked multiple times but is Sleight of hand supposed to sim higher than Thief versaitility in Dslice or not? If not does the bug makes it betterN
copper radish
last week was my feral druid arc
What’s this weeks arc? BM?
keen belfry
sub rogue
gaunt phoenix
noob
keen belfry
unlucko
gaunt phoenix
I asked multiple times but is Sleight of hand supposed to sim higher than Thief ...
it's not supposed to currently
copper radish
What can they do for midnight to ease up some of this vault rng
keen belfry
What can they do for midnight to ease up some of this vault rng
dinars
gaunt phoenix
but then with the bug it is "better" cause we cant model the bug
keen belfry
i hate vault rng but its just a good aspect of ammorpg imo
copper radish
dinars
That would be cool. Item isn’t there. Take dinars. Just buy it.
Should be the same system as turbo just there for the whole season and more than 3 dinars to use
keen belfry
im GM of my guild and on loot council and i dont get gear, am i most ethical gamer of all time?
top 5?
copper radish
I woulda taken what I needed at this point 😂
gaunt phoenix
Do you raidlead as outlaw
keen belfry
yeah
gaunt phoenix
Nice
quaint mauve
bro i hate fed ex
keen belfry
im kinda a psycho, ive raid lead s outlaw, fire mage, arcane mage and enh shammy this xpac
copper radish
bro i hate fed ex
No shoes? Lol
frail veldt
prob still worth even though stats are shit right?
keen belfry
outlaw raid leading kinda cooked i have my other officers help out a bit when implaying law
quaint mauve
No shoes? Lol
they body slammed my box bro
tulip quarry
it will just be similar or slightly worse
I'm surprise though, i would have expect this to be ahead with APL properly implemented
frail veldt
they body slammed my box bro
I cant read it
lofty latch
i've been running sleight over thief vers in m+, trying it out. did 9.03m in details on a 16 flood, sham/dh/druid buffs. idk it just feels good to get several natty 5 buffs
copper radish
prob still worth even though stats are shit right?
Mastery outlaw back baby
frail veldt
who writes that small
quaint mauve
rick owen ig
gaunt phoenix
Ye i mean you will get pulls where you highroll and pulls where it does nothing
while thief's vers always does something
frail veldt
gaunt phoenix
Sleight is better but it's not cracko wacko 18% dmg
tulip quarry
Even if it is 0.2% that's a gain
every crack of dps we can grab would be great to have
frail veldt
Sleight is better but it's not cracko wacko 18% dmg
have you tried playing with 6cp always rule as trickster?
my brain just cant accept it
copper radish
have you tried playing with 6cp always rule as trickster?
Sounds fried
gaunt phoenix
nah
copper radish
Is that a DPS gain finishing only on 6?
frail veldt
I mean its 0.2% I think according to tob
gaunt phoenix
just from a brief test
copper radish
😭
gaunt phoenix
i didnt look into it
frail veldt
to me it more means
it dont matter during subt
lol
so if you mess up and double press a builder past 5 its not like you lost dps
gaunt phoenix
your luck is ass
frail veldt
your luck is ass
LOL is it really?
gaunt phoenix
gg reroll
frail veldt
I thought it was accurate
gaunt phoenix
I mean the expected 5 roll is 7%
frail veldt
oh wow
gaunt phoenix
you're off a bit
frail veldt
game hates me IG
gaunt phoenix
ye
indigo token
idk what im even playing for anymore
like if im perma benched for the season
all im doing is filling my vault
old gull
indigo token
its not
indigo token
Next season surely no outlaws on the bench
we have 2 other rogues
idk im scared im going to get dropped
slate bloom
!WA
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
lilac wharf
What add on is this?
frail veldt
What add on is this?
someone shared it here a while ago its a wa
lilac wharf
Sleight just feels way better imo
quaint mauve
wow i even forgot to open my vault
frail veldt
yeah sleight feels more consistent
quaint mauve
yesterday i had 6 buffs going all the way from 1st pull of ara kara to the 1st blood guard
and then we wiped on the second blood guard :))))
lilac wharf
Regardless of when you high roll, I feel like I’m able to maintain AR with it
Plus who doesn’t love the dopamine hit of getting a 5 buff
quaint mauve
well my rogue got a socket :)))))))))))))))))))))
copper radish
When legion remix so I can be top outlaw dmg in raid
long barn
Would you guys take Tier Myth with Avoidance or myth bis weapon. Already have crafted weapons 720.
indigo token
When legion remix so I can be top outlaw dmg in raid
as if
glass mortar
ok but everyone else gets that much mastery also and their mastery is actually good
glass mortar
we r probably the weakest dps spec in the silly op mode
it wouldnt surprise me at all
not that it really matters
bright crane
Remember when we thought we’d get some tuning after RWF ended
cinder oxide
oh boy!
random stirrup
Remember when we thought we’d get some tuning after RWF ended
Hof will close soon and then we’ll see something for sure
quaint mauve
oh boy!
atleast you got mythic pieces that you can do something with
i got
3 dog shit trinkets
wait mythic souls boots
goated vault
slate forge
Hof will close soon and then we’ll see something for sure
I don’t think buffing outlaw will effect hof still no public logged outlaw kills on dimmy
random stirrup
I meant general tuning
outlaw won’t see anything in first pass
There will be a public outlaw kill on Dimensius this week though
fathom bramble
there was already a first round of tuning though
cinder oxide
wait mythic souls boots
yeah 
and all bc of fractilly kill, we wont kill soul hunters until tonight
random stirrup
eh that one was practically just delayed beta tuning
fathom bramble
outlaw is also so supremely bad on dim that no amount of reasonable buffing would help
glass mortar
s3 DF outlaw would be a dumpsterfire on dimi
no amount of tuning is tuning that one away
fathom bramble
at best we just reach a point where the platforms don't matter too much
random stirrup
There will be at least one outlaw kill for sure this week, and it will bring down the outlaw stats, but doubt blizzard tunes off sample size of 1
fathom bramble
which is more about gear and raidbuff than outlaw buffs
random stirrup
When soulbinder is removed and more outlaws kill dimmy the buffs will roll in
random stirrup
ye drutile
They are our “rival guild” but he’s a pure outlaw otp
We both deep p3 and will kill this week
fathom bramble
nice
vivid vessel
There will be at least one outlaw kill for sure this week, and it will bring dow...
I'm allowed
This reset
random stirrup
2 parses 
vivid vessel
oh wtf this guy get it first?
eta gg man
couldnt even get the first outlaw kill
..
vivid vessel
im raiding monday so
random stirrup
eta gg
vivid vessel
honestly if he absolutely int the boss
imma just kill as sub
and keep that log for a bit
vivid vessel
he could die tho
old gull
vivid vessel
jolly fox
outlaw buffs when
viscid perch
Never
vivid vessel
bro kinda blasting
quaint mauve
image_1.gif
vivid vessel
bro
i think
with a little luck
he can actually finish last
just above tghe tanks
im looking
most pulls he is almost last
vivid vessel
ye
he def finish last
only guys under him are people that die
thats gonna be a banger im ngl
maybe he is catching up in p3 tho
nvm
he klast in p3 aswell
random stirrup
Warlock is a bit low because they infernal pargoth
They will beat him when it comes back up
random stirrup
Damage amp + lust removed
Outlaw still bottom half on 100% uptime fight 
vivid vessel
yeye
glass mortar
noice
slate forge
You can hit while flying?
random stirrup
maybe outlaw loses a tiny amount by not stepping rings
glass mortar
theres no flying in that log
glass mortar
zac removed everything except the patchwerk part of p3
vivid vessel
last phase kinda an outlaw phase if it werent for the damage amp, and the lust, and if it lasted like 5 min
vivid vessel
zac removed everything except the patchwerk part of p3
no i removed the damage amp + lust
its all patchwerk in p3
just extremely hard
outlaw prolly hard to perform in p3
glass mortar
so the fight begins at 7:15 into the fight?
vivid vessel
you kinda want a spec like sub im ngl
glass mortar
zac removed everything except the patchwerk part of p3
yes thats what i said
then u corrected me
corrected me saying the right thing
vivid vessel
thats not what you said what
glass mortar
the person asked if u can hit the boss while flying