outlaw

[frail veldt]

uhuh becoming active without requiring stealth woudl be nice

[red zinc]

[vivid vessel]

this is this week

and he told me

sub again this week

on dimmy

[fathom bramble]

unlucky

[frail veldt]

what part of the fight is this?

[vivid vessel]

damage amp

idk i did less damage this week

whatever

this spec is so trash

[frail veldt]

working as intended

[fathom bramble]

pretty sure sub can do just the burst on the damage amp and then promptly die

immediately

and still be better than 1/3rd of the specs in the game on last phase

[bright crane]

When are you gonna join the dark side (BM)??

Took me a week to go from 688 to 708

[dim falcon]

solopractice ad Raid target I get to stay around 3.5 mio dps. Ilvl 713 .. I am doing something wrong or not?

[copper radish]

Did the raider leader ask for a reroll yet lol

[frail veldt]

idk whats your sim at

[dim falcon]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ogkQCcdY1HGxaZS4ondtnF

[fathom bramble]

I don't think anyone my guild is expecting me to play sub again for the entire expansion

people were calling it the "wrong timeline" when I swapped to it on dimmy

[frail veldt]

thats dungeon slice

[dim falcon]

woopsy one sec

5 min sim or 3?

[frail veldt]

idk up to you

whatever you want to compare to

doesnt change much

[dim falcon]

well then I just go for 4

that was on the training target

with makro

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5j417KxYwrBBJ89D69nKrX

[frail veldt]

dont use statweights just do a quick sim

your coin dam looks low still though

[dim falcon]

if i compare myself to outlaws other outlaw that was the Huge difference. BTE and Coin dmg

But its not that I can press BTW more..

[frail veldt]

yeah that usually means youre getting less cdr

you get more BtE by getting more vanishes from getting more cdr from being better at builder and spender rules

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel thoughts

[dim falcon]

just vanish to use GS or to keep AR .. or at 2 stacks right?

[gaunt phoenix]

Proper rtb rules means more combo points and more bte crit chance

!rtb

[ornate heath]

How to use RTB
(Assuming season 3 tier and Supercharger)

• Roll if you have 0 or 1 buffs.
• Roll if you have 2 buffs and Loaded Dice is active.
• Roll once asap after pressing KIR, as your buffs don't get rolled away. Use this weakaura to see when your buffs don't get rolled away (yellow border).
• After the KIR roll, continue to watch the weakaura as buffs tick down. As your buffs expire you may hit a point where your remaining buffs are yellow and you can roll again.

[frail veldt]

probably the best thing you can do is link a log if youd like someone to review it to see what mistakes youre making

it could be a bunch of possible things

[gaunt phoenix]

Except no one does log reviews anyway

[frail veldt]

yeaaaah lol

[dim falcon]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kSeRBBiCtrwvBRvATvMa11

[frail veldt]

I guess next best thing is to read the faq very very carefully and thoroughly

[vivid vessel]

maybe i can still get first kill next week ..

@near rock

you not killing dimmy as outalw in reclear

[fathom bramble]

yeah next week we won't be killing dimmy as you know

it's on you to get us to drop on the logs

unles otsdarvaa does it first

[vivid vessel]

idk

fatebound is cringe

cause i cant even hold stuffs for the damage amp

but also i got cucked twice in the damage amp im ngl

both kills

were terrible rng

[proven ocean]

fuck you zac

actually

i take that back zac fk your class no cappy

[vivid vessel]

@fathom bramble

1 vanish

in the damage amp

i cant

[proven ocean]

wtf

...

zac

i got a new keyboard

no cappy

i got like 10

or more

[vivid vessel]

nice bro !

[proven ocean]

idk

!

[dim falcon]

do I want to use GS as soon as possible or is there a situation were I wanna like keep it to use it for with vanish or with AR ?

[gaunt phoenix]

If you have a vanish charge or if vanish is up very soon (like 10s on tooltip) then you hold gs for the upcoming vanish

[near rock]

im not even in on dimmy for prog bro

we never saw a single prism or forge on all mythic + heroic kills

and I aint playing sub without that

[random stirrup]

prismless sub

[vivid vessel]

ah

[copper radish]

What’s this new keyboard tech

[dim falcon]

Thank you

[frail veldt]

https://x.com/casthaleigh/status/1969886223755014592

Toaster 🍉🦈🗡️💥// Gangle’s Pencil Grip (@casthaleigh)...

🚨 Blizzard confirms that Anduin are there were once they are did.

They became the first ever to have the first as in the era of that when of a gaming and the media began.

X · Sep 21, 2025, 10:07 PM

[desert tendon]

is outlaw a decent tank?

[vivid vessel]

does fine

[stuck sparrow]

Is this english

or did the post maker have a stroke

[frail veldt]

sure looks like it

[stuck sparrow]

"Anduin are there were once they are did"

american education system

[frail veldt]

yeah if anduin actually was there were once they are did, then he probably did once or at least if not, they did if they are.

[desert tendon]

mewo

hand check

[frail veldt]

I actually hurt my wrist

well its been hurt

hands are good

[gaunt phoenix]

i think it's humor

[stuck sparrow]

idk anymore

[cinder relic]

Yeah I think its what we call in the business, a joke

[glass mortar]

not immediately reading that as a joke

EU education system 😠

[stuck sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-gif-1346139666874943897

[glass mortar]

😰

[hasty warren]

is there an addon/wa for cc/interupt rotation as team, for calls and organisation

[hollow creek]

i do shit dps on loomithar mythic any tips ?

[rotund token]

Ey guys, does wpn swap not work for some bosses ? Never can swap on first boss in streets, first in gambit often. Its driving me mental lol

[split ingot]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
• Just before key placement use AR into KS to get Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
• KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
• During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open onto the pack with AR into BtE.

[rotund token]

Im pressing like a psycho and it never swaps. Dont have that prob anywhere else

[cinder relic]

it doesnt work on any boss

bosses lock u into combat

trash doesnt

Or like, what are u asking specifically

Like the weapon doesnt proc on bosses when u vanish

[silent palm]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[craggy kelp]

[red zinc]

its past midnight send the glorps mods asleep

Ok chat what are the predictions for next week

Nothing, only new hero talent nodes, only apex talents, rework, or all three

[frank finch]

well

we wont be able to play with apex stuff

hopefully they show us tho

[vivid vessel]

we will no ?

[frank finch]

apex talents phase 4

[vivid vessel]

what

thats crazy no ?

they have class updates in phase 1

but no apex talents ?

this shit gonna make 0 sense

[frank finch]

unlucky

[vivid vessel]

its weird the only ui thing is here?

where is details

and the plates

are we just not getting these

[frank finch]

i think cuz apex talents are max level stuff

[red zinc]

Oh hadnt even seen that

fair enough

[vivid vessel]

i dont think the levels at the top

are what you will be capped at on beta

[frank finch]

so either we will be bricked cuz we cant access apex or apex is modifing stuff we dont expect

[vivid vessel]

what we had last time was 2 realms

one were you level up

and that would be locked

and other where its max levle as usual

[frank finch]

maybe

but also last testing didnt have a roadmap like this

only for dun's

[red zinc]

Wondering where the new hero talent nodes come into play though

Like the way I understood it you got alternating talent points every time you leveled up

Spec -> class -> hero

So anyway if theres nothing for rogue on thursday next week we can actually turbo doom

lovely

[frank finch]

yea wil be weird if in fact we only get them at max lvl

[red zinc]

you get 4 spec 3 hero 3 class

Probably legit just them not having it finished

i cant lie

I don’t recall whether everything was on beta by the time that went live for tww

[daring yoke]

Guys i just saw latest log from icy veins for dimmy fight. Outlaw is not even on the list 😭

[red zinc]

yo 0m he popped off

[proven ocean]

Liquid had r1 kill timer on dimensius with a buyer

💀

All speed run wannabe guilds in shambles

[red zinc]

[quaint mauve]

bro

i pinched a nerve in my neck or something

and it’s effecting my gameplay

[keen belfry]

i no cap

dont even want to do these outlaw keys

[red zinc]

You need to

dont let big lizzard win

[keen belfry]

i want to do io stuff

[red zinc]

they WANT you to QUIT

[keen belfry]

but man

this feels like ass cheeks

[frank finch]

alpha is next week , im pretty much done with retail

[quaint mauve]

awang you didn’t tell me arcane is like easy mode

also how do u even track your buffs with your WA wth

i had to make my own buff trackers

also agreed

[red zinc]

im getting in

only me

[quaint mauve]

like i log on outlaw

get declined from the key i need

wait a bit

[frank finch]

cool just make sure you stream it

[quaint mauve]

there’s no keys that i need

i wait again

get decline

hop on an alt

repeat

[rotund token]

Yea, I know that, thats why im swaping. But swap macro does not work every time, esoecially on those 2 bosses, and its driving me mad. Ty for reply.

[proper veldt]

my plain rolls kinda going crazy recently

[indigo token]

i have a list of all our alpha changes

[indigo token]

greenskin's wicker's made baseline, changed to 100% damage increase
blade flurry changed to 80% over 4 additional targets
reverted RTB to a combo finisher
reverted KS to its pre season 3 form but still hits random targets
now lets you hit coup 3 additional times, over 10 seconds
uhuh is only maintained within vanish, stealth just doesnt work with it.
1/1000 chance every 2 seconds to crash your game while playing outlaw
constant gif of ion wagging his finger at you in the middle of the screen

[fallen mural]

finally removed us from the game

[indigo token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413245732118593606/image.gif

[fallen mural]

It finally happened again

[vivid vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187390524802486344/1419538058520428595/image_1.gif

[fallen mural]

haha removed without a word

[red zinc]

[quaint mauve]

turn it into a gif what r u doing

[dense bolt]

ok i need this icon ingame to replace the og one

goes crazy

[cinder relic]

[dense bolt]

[pastel sierra]

The real KS change is to make it randomly use the old one

[wintry solar]

Outlaw rework October 2nd trust

Alpha starts when my work week begins again

[smoky lotus]

inb4 only 3 lines of useless changes for rogues in alpha

rework will come 2 weeks before expansion

no iteration

[wintry solar]

No no

Rework comes alpha

And no iteration until late beta

That's my prediction

[flint pivot]

I can't believe they're actually doing this

(obvious satire)

[indigo token]

OUTLAW!!!!!

[indigo token]

no iteration till 12.2

[tired rune]

just playing my hunter now until ilvl boost

[wintry solar]

Nah realistically the ass end of beta

[wintry solar]

Do you ever read that as "OUTLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW"

I do everytime

Mustaaaaaaaaard

[indigo token]

yeah in that same cadence

[indigo token]

idk man like

I just want the class to feel good

and do damage

like

make the class have the AR level of speed baseline or smth

because it feels like dog ass without it

[tired rune]

https://tenor.com/bD4am.gif

[royal ermine]

solos gif forever stuck as image_1

we fix

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982342616614043680/1419842577003184138/image.gif

[indigo token]

https://tenor.com/view/shane-boyle-299-birch-drive-rostock-racing-deer-club-oddkast-chocolate-gif-7604806897369123722

[gaunt phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982342616614043680/1419842577003184138/image.gif

[indigo token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982342616614043680/1419842577003184138/image.gif

[frail veldt]

We gotta have a collection for these now

Amazing

[fathom bramble]

wish I screenshot mine

I was playing my 2nd rogue(Buffoutlaw) and just got dmed a simple "No outlaw" followed by a decline

[frail veldt]

How do people not check someone's spec before inviting haha

[fathom bramble]

maybe they just assume your going to swap to the 'correct' spec before the key starts

[stiff vector]

damn they even went as far to dm you w/ the decline

thats brutal

[fathom bramble]

my character name must have motivated them

probably a certified outlaw hater

[old gull]

New meme dropped

[ember goblet]

is bubbling wax worth in M+

[royal ermine]

gonna be honest I don't think anybody has touched wax since the very start of the expansion

[cinder relic]

well they should

Its been better the entire expansion lol

for st anyway

[sour harness]

yo guys, got a question
for amulet of earthen crafsmanship, should i use enchanted runed ethereal crest when using spark of starlight?

[ember goblet]

so M+ think its worth? i know you say ST but i mean we struggle ST think it helps enough to use

[cinder relic]

its a value judgement u have to make

[fallen mural]

i would just wait till you have extra gilded

unless you don't need runed anymore

[wintry solar]

I can't wait for October 2nd

[fallow sonnet]

Is it just me or this class unbelievably frustrating to play in m+

[sour harness]

i cannot, i am noob!

[sour harness]

its gambling, i love gambling

[fallow sonnet]

Feels so fun in raids but m+ is just aids
Get on a DH or warr or other melee class and it's so much less stressful

I love it I love the play style

[old gull]

Most fun rotation in the game. Sometimes our numbers aren’t as good as others

[fallow sonnet]

Definitely

[fallen mural]

It's definitely the most fun for sure. I agree

trickster outlaw *

[wintry solar]

Depends on the dungeon

[glass mortar]

these absolute cowards

branns level is capped again

[old gull]

Ruined the game for me, I can’t play anything else

[glass mortar]

now what am i supposed to do for the rest of the season

[fallow sonnet]

It's just so frustrating that if a mechanic or a bad placement or something makes me move and I don't keep perfect track of AR for a moment and lose it it tanks my DPS like hell
Have to constantly try so hard to achieve the same DPS other classes do by spamming builder spender leaving so much brainpower so do everything else

[fallen mural]

haha i usually play 3 characters and i haven't even touched another this season.

[wintry solar]

Outlaw in general is annoying atm

[old gull]

I like demo a lot, but I don’t like dealing with pet ai

[fallen mural]

so use the !def and see all the things you can cheat!

!def

[ornate heath]

Rogue Defensive Spreadsheet: > Click to open <

[fallen mural]

This increased my dps by about 10%

[stable wolf]

I knew this was fake when I saw -rogue changes

[frail veldt]

Depends what you're used to

I prefer how it plays in m+

Outlaw on the last two bosses is so so so miserable

The worst part of outlaw in m+ is playing 1pt fth

[glass mortar]

1fth in m+ is slightly forgivable because of deft

every boss in the raid that u play 1fth on

[fallow sonnet]

i guess, i have never played the game seriously really, last time i played a lot was legion and i mained dh the whole time so it makes sense
i never played a rogue until i came back to the game at the end of this last seasdon

[glass mortar]

is a sin against man

how do we have 2 seasons of playing the most unfun stuff man

[fallow sonnet]

but i find warr easy too like so 0 stress

[glass mortar]

kspree now 1fth

[fallow sonnet]

last 2 bosses of what?

[frail veldt]

Fr fr

[quaint mauve]

in what way

[frail veldt]

Well yeah it's easier and does more damage

[torpid fiber]

if you want a low effort spec that does good dps outlaw is just not that
We're all too addicted to the high effort to do anything but complain about low dps

[wintry solar]

Real

[fallen mural]

We are all masochists

https://tenor.com/view/boisestate-notsure500-readytogethurtagain-gif-18260561

^me looking at the dmg meters

[ember goblet]

so is frac trink really not worth?

[fallen mural]

for m+? Get warpedclaw, loom trinket, or soul hunters trinket

If you need haste run ara trinket till you have the haste on other pieces

[frail veldt]

More effort for less reward

It's the outlaw way

[copper radish]

wait this sounds good tho

[frail veldt]

It's concerning that you think so

[copper radish]

anything sounds good than what we gott now lmao

[wintry solar]

No it can be worse

That fake blue posts shows

Finisher RtB paired with SC would be funny though

[copper radish]

brb prayin for myth track bow on my hunter so i can swap main tomorrow

[quaint mauve]

it’s fun but no it’s not

[wintry solar]

Believe in the Outlaw rework or die by the blade

[hollow thunder]

Joined group with the Name Bladeflurry, got kicked after invite for playing Outlaw

[old gull]

I also just like how cool our animations are, slice shoot slice shoot coup de grace just looks awesome

[hollow thunder]

How are people this mentally handicaped

[wintry solar]

They don't want your blades

A nasty phenomenon

[wintry solar]

I believe

[gaunt phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif

[wintry solar]

Solo do you believe in the rework?

[restive obsidian]

I dont trust a rework from them, considering what the last one did

[wintry solar]

That was more of a talent refresh tbh since our tree was pretty caca

Solo didn't answer btw. He lost hope.

[wintry solar]

Yeah I will say it aged like milk

Imo

[gaunt phoenix]

the last rework? so crackshot?

i do think outlaw peaked many moons ago but i'm not pessimistic about midnight

[copper radish]

Mid range Inc. Reroll Hunter now

[wintry solar]

No

You have to pay me to read hunter propaganda

[wintry solar]

Uhuh specifically

[pastel otter]

sorry if i missed this somewhere but is there a certain uptime for adrenaline rush we look for through a key?

[cinder relic]

I mean idk, every rework comes with pros and cons

everybody loved UHUH and crackshot on reveal

A lot of its quirks have shown its ugly head

I wouldnt say it was a "bad rework"

[teal wing]

90+

Moar lik 95+

[frail veldt]

People still think bladeflurry is just a button we spam

Had a warrior go "is outlaws damage still all bladeflurry" and I'm like "it works like sweeping strikes it's just a cleave mechanic" and he went "oh". Then at the end of the key he goes "lol 60% bladeflurry does outlaw even have a rotation?"

[indigo token]

if they wanna keep uhuh

they gotta make a lot of things not break stealth

or retool it somehow for it to not get fucked on so many fights

[frail veldt]

I think the rework was great considering how much good it had on one pass

[indigo token]

also

I'm a huge fan of crackshot personally

but if people are sick of it

just get rid of greenskin's wickers and replace it with something else

there's no reason for it to be there

I don't think anyone's ever taken it

[frail veldt]

Gsw is a pretty boring talent

[indigo token]

it isnt even that its boring

its that its never ever taken

[cinder relic]

It is

When its played, it does nothing

[indigo token]

well its also that its boring

[wintry solar]

It's just reliable dmg procs

[indigo token]

its a complete waste of a capstone

for a class in which most of the capstones are very static

[cinder relic]

It used to get taken, it didn't do anything

[wintry solar]

The power distribution between capstones is bad rn yeah

[fathom bramble]

capstones should probably do something when you pick them

[cinder relic]

U just play ur normal rotation and some ps do more damage

[fathom bramble]

instead of just being a passive damage %

like when we did take GSW it had no rotational change at all

[indigo token]

like if we want to keep the theming of fan the hammer have it to something more substantial with that

[cinder relic]

I think some boring do nothing capstones is kinda fine

[indigo token]

[fathom bramble]

and a lot of the fixes people cook up for GSW tend to promote no rotational change even further

[cinder relic]

But yeah, it should be competitive if nothing else

[wintry solar]

I think gsw is fine if it were good

What guy said

[fathom bramble]

I feel like boring do nothing nodes belong as travel nodes

[wintry solar]

But it's not, so delete it.

[indigo token]

honestly

do something with ghostly strike

[fathom bramble]

I think if it had sufficiently high damage % we would play around it on some builds though

so it does have potential to exist somewhere somehow

[indigo token]

have it be like arcane surge or something

like it counts up all the hits and does something

idk man like

it's a rock and a hard place

[fathom bramble]

I think a decent answer is for it to do something when consumed

other than simply damage

[indigo token]

we got KIR/Crackshot/HO, which are the bread and butter of outlaw

that leaves ghostly strike, which is always taken

and GSW

which no one takes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982342616614043680/1419842577003184138/image.gif

[wintry solar]

You always take crackshot too

[indigo token]

yeah

[wintry solar]

But crackshot doesn't do a lot without ace

[fathom bramble]

KIR/crack/HO are all reasonably gameplay warping

I feel like GSW and ghostly are the problems

even though GSW is currently being saved by a tierset that may or may not exist in midnight

[wintry solar]

I feel the divide between HO/KiR isn't that large in terms of gameplay. Outside of 1fth

[indigo token]

imagine having to play with GSW for a season

[indigo token]

??

[fathom bramble]

yeah it would be like taking no talent at all

[indigo token]

using ambush as a builder feels pretty different from SS as a builder imo

[fathom bramble]

just actually having a reliable generator in stealth makes a world of difference

[indigo token]

unless you meant something else

[wintry solar]

Idk

Idk how many more keys I have to play before I feel the large difference it's made out to be.

[fathom bramble]

everytime you have ever had a dud of a vanish due to SS rng making the entire thing useless on kir

that literally can't happen to ho

[indigo token]

yeah

idk maybe you havent played with HO enough

[wintry solar]

It's 1fth that makes it so bad imo

It's not that bad with 2fth

[indigo token]

yeah they gotta make fth baseline

[wintry solar]

Lower total CPs would be nice

[indigo token]

?

[wintry solar]

7cp does nothing but make dry spells worse

[fathom bramble]

the problem isn't necessarily that CP generation is high

it's that it is all backloaded on procs

in previous iterations it was 1cp per SS hit and then 1/2 CP from a PS cast

now it's 1CP per SS hit except Fatebound gets 1 extra one on the 2nd hit

and PS casts are through the roof

and then to balance the strength of those procs the chance of actually getting a double hit is lower than ever

[wintry solar]

Yknow what though

[fathom bramble]

moving some of the backloaded CP back to frontloaded or just removing it outright and adjusting CP economy could both address it

[wintry solar]

I've personally never felt the novelty of a talent wear off faster than uhuh

Outlaw specific talent

[indigo token]

death chill

oh

killing spree

[wintry solar]

I was an UHUH hater week 4 of it being live

Maybe not week 4 but it didn't take long

[haughty wigeon]

everyone praising ret rework

when i knew alot of shit was hot garbage since day one

[fathom bramble]

not me

I'm a certified ret rework hater

[haughty wigeon]

good

[wintry solar]

Remember when they thought they were gonna get leap?

[haughty wigeon]

[wintry solar]

I remember telling my ret friends they weren't getting it

[haughty wigeon]

yes the datamined talent that has 5 versions of itself each with a different discription on how it worked, 2 of which just copied from other ability tooltips

[wintry solar]

And they'd get so mad and call me wrong

[haughty wigeon]

totally getting it

real talk tho, the only reworked/revamped/refreshed spec that got more pros than cons i feel like

was vdh

that shit is near perfect

[fathom bramble]

blizzard definitely thought about it

[haughty wigeon]

[fathom bramble]

or someone spent a lot of time making versions of it to try and convince the higher ups that ret needed it

[wintry solar]

The fdk one is pretty good

[haughty wigeon]

oh ya for sure, especially if there was 5

[haughty wigeon]

wait till things are settle. having little to no skill ceiling causes problems later on

[quaint mauve]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[quaint mauve]

@main isle

[fathom bramble]

I'm skeptical whenever a spec is just doing a shitload of damage and people call it a good rework

[wintry solar]

Fdk has what we have but less cringe

[fathom bramble]

maybe it is good though

I haven't and wouldn't play frost

[haughty wigeon]

always

i mean, ive seen tcers talk about some concerns about it

but i dont play fdk so im not gonna really bother with it

[wintry solar]

This is the first season I've played it since cata and the new breathe is super fun

Played it seriously rather

It's how killing spree should've been

Or new talent idk.

Point is the damage isn't propping up its fun, it's fun on its own.

[quaint mauve]

i think unholy had a good rework

but it doesn’t do as much as frost so bleh

[wintry solar]

Pairing DT with Apoc was a cringe move

Other than that it's pretty good

[haughty wigeon]

i mean thats what people say about ret rework

[wintry solar]

Ret people don't matter

[haughty wigeon]

now ret has alot of issues people like to ignore cause it gets buffed middle of farm to do crazy damage

[haughty wigeon]

:(

i hope killing spree gets buffed by another 68% for you guys then >:(

[fathom bramble]

there are worse fates

[wintry solar]

Teehee

[fathom bramble]

like having your primary class resource get generated by AAs

[haughty wigeon]

would work for yall if it just generated energy lol

[ocean lodge]

Paladin has been broken since it's rework.

[haughty wigeon]

big damage means its was a good rework :)

obvi

[ocean lodge]

I wish damage was the only thing stupid about it.

[frail veldt]

honestly I think paladins in a good spot

its always relevant but rarely like giga op

which seems smart for their most popular spec

[ocean lodge]

I mean it's pretty op, it only falls off at like, the highest of the high keys.

[gaunt phoenix]

They really needed that 5% aura

[ocean lodge]

I'm so glad they waited for people to get their 4 sets before making a stupid balancing deci-oh no

[granite merlin]

Good lord just did first two bosses on mythic and thought I did good nope 13 and 16 parse lol

[ocean lodge]

O O F

My outlaw parses went from green to purple with just a crit ring a few weeks back, pretty sure I did nothing else differently.

But that was like, week one of dusting off the rogue

[granite merlin]

My crit is very low

[frail veldt]

I fucked something up and now I cant see the water waves on swapface lol

[torpid fiber]

lmao

Good game

[frail veldt]

they were like invisible lol

[fluid meadow]

bruh, this season is so undertuned or what's going on? those 2 others have 15 resi but that dmg is illegal from them at any keylvl, at least we just wiped before boss and left the dungeon

[frail veldt]

fotm

[fluid meadow]

yeah but crazy how much ilvl we miss until full gear and how much dps do they miss with current gear and still timeing 15s

[torpid fiber]

Think about it this way: every time you smurf a group as outlaw that's 4 more people who are more likely to invite outlaws to their groups.

You're doing a public good by carrying shit players.

[fluid meadow]

sure, but this season will be a full meme like this

[dawn talon]

it's the end of the expansion

25s were memes in bfa/sl s4 and df s3

15s are memes this tier

nbd just do a higher key

[fluid meadow]

okay but im sure the "balance" will be that in this season every high team does the same keylvl but different time and blizzard will clap they made balance between classes

[dawn talon]

i mean that doesn't sound like an issue

the top 5 teams are often decided by timers more than key levels

[tender wedge]

io is a reflection of time available to play, not skill

until you get to the very top obviously

i also think that your average outlaw player is going to perform far better than your average arcane mage

[fluid meadow]

u r right, not that hard to be better, outlaw>arcane prio confirmed?

[tender wedge]

confirmed against your average fotm mage

this happens literally every season mage it meta

so like 2/3 of the time

[quaint mauve]

reminds me of me doing more ST dmg on first boss streets than a dh and mage while tank literally made it to where they had funnel the whole time

[tender wedge]

i constantly top first boss of Halls for some reason, even when tank brings lil dudes in for funnel

[quaint mauve]

tbf ig suley isnt the prio target in the first pull

it’s the knight

[stiff hawk]

I decline Rets out of spite

[vivid vessel]

Only if you are a pussy

[haughty wigeon]

il ldecline u

[stiff hawk]

Woah

[cinder haven]

Outlaw and ret in same key never feels good imo

Too much pad

[stiff hawk]

Nono i mean in general, no matter on what acharacter

[cinder haven]

[haughty wigeon]

idk

i found havocs more annoying that rets

or outlaws

[rotund zodiac]

I’ll gladly invite another 2 outlaws in my key

[wintry solar]

But can we all agree mages are the worst?

[fallow sonnet]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[earnest sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-turn-down-arcane-mage-gif-27420484

[serene brook]

Brothers, please, wth, no buff for us i guess

[vapid sundial]

@vivid vessel do people just not blame hunter for anything

No matter how bad they do

Low kicks cc etc

Deaths

Just 'theyre hunter' and no second look

[vapid sundial]

I don't like rets bc they eat funnel

[serene brook]

I always blame all hunters for doing no cc and no kicks, even if they do

[vapid sundial]

The amount of rets I had pop aoe cds s1 when I was enh

Mind boggling

[haughty wigeon]

I’ve out dpsed every hunter as tank today

[vapid sundial]

Gg

[haughty wigeon]

Granted it’s meme keys but still insane

[vapid sundial]

Bm ain't even that hard

[haughty wigeon]

That people can’t put out more than 4mill overal

[vapid sundial]

Dark ranger is payphone af

Just press arrow.

[midnight widget]

is there a youtuber that does rogue specific breakdowns for mythic bosses?

[vapid sundial]

For outlaw?

Just send yo shit unless downtime is about to happen

[midnight widget]

yeah or sub, as I'm starting to learn sub

[vapid sundial]

[serene brook]

wrong channel bro

sub isnt dat hard either when you start to understand his + and -

especially in raid

[vapid sundial]

Sub is literally timed out for you

With how you send cds normally

[earnest sphinx]

https://lorrgs.io

[midnight widget]

oh shit this site looks busted for noobs like me

[earnest sphinx]

Its rly good

If you want to learn more About sub look at shindigs guide on YouTube boss

[midnight widget]

will do, thank you!

[hollow temple]

my existence as outlaw is at stake, no pug invs at all , and running my own keys is a nightmare, only failers ...

[earnest sphinx]

Im pretty sure thats a yellow class issue for everyone

[mighty pivot]

watch out there are mage players in this channel

[balmy topaz]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yCwwt0_mFBU Can we get this UI for outlaw

[earnest sphinx]

I just look at that video its insane

[mighty pivot]

instead of a gorilla butt on the left it will be pirate booty

[earnest sphinx]

Just a icon of old ks

[mighty pivot]

it will be a picture of outlaw ST dps (because it's ass)

[nova basin]

im assuming on plex the top parse as outlaw is bc they were carrying cd's from the trash? weird 30 seconds with nothing used and is number 1 parse? lol

[wintry solar]

Who where

[mighty pivot]

at least two have outed themselves in here

[timid portal]

[vivid vessel]

dont look at lorgoio

for outlaw

[agile orchid]

I bet next tuning pass rogue is not getting touched

[vivid vessel]

Good

I need a few more time

To kill dimensuis

And for warcraft log to remove the pad from the bosses

Then we can truly be absolute bottom

[earnest sphinx]

Yo zac bossman

i have a song from your stream stuck in my head i was wondering If you know it just by the lyrics i cant find it anywhere

Something like since the begging of time i have been (idk) my mind

[vivid vessel]

Ye that rings a bell

Hmm

[vivid vessel]

Do you know when that was btw

Yesterday or before

Important for the timeline

[simple gull]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hravg6D1CzPnVyAN Can someone look at some of these kills and see if there are any major mistakes I'm making? The other outlaw is consistently performing better then me and idk why. I know for 1 fight I was in the wrong hero spec but other then that I don't really know where to look on how to improve

[true shadow]

Hey guys, is outlaw really that bad rn? It’s the most fun I had with a spec as outlaw but I’m worried about wasting time, effort and resources like crests into someone that won’t be invited in high keys

[simple gull]

My experience is no invites over 14

[vivid vessel]

It's the worse it's been since I started the game in SL imo

Take that how you will

[mighty pivot]

why is zac so dedicated to become absolute bottom ( )

[vivid vessel]

I'm committed

[frank root]

Isnt it Wrestling my mind - Das Beat ?

[mighty pivot]

[pearl topaz]

give outlaw a death grip grapple and delete shroud from the game

[true shadow]

Why is outlaw not F or D tier in most tier lists that I’ve seen tho? Like on icyveins, archon, wowhead, etc

[pearl topaz]

because some of the people in here are superhuman freaks and will rise above it

idk i think the sample sizes are way too small in comparison

[vivid vessel]

These tier list are based on data that is heavely skewed toward low keys and worse players

For m+ at least

Like archon and shit is legit useless

But I mean if you are doing low keys outlaw is always good

Just by design of not having crs

Cds

[true shadow]

Yeah, low keys have been good for me compared to my Assa and sub

Well, is it better than to switch to sub or even reroll something else entirely lol? Not the best question in rogue discord I know but still

[strong cargo]

I've never felt worse than SL s3-4, we were leggit behind tanks, 5 target cap with giga pulls in hoa/dos

[vivid vessel]

Ye true but SL was weird

Basically all the melee in the game

We're like that

You were kinda a support idk

Was some weird shit

But also in sl you legit never played with raid buffs

No monk no war

[earnest sphinx]

YES

ty gang

@vivid vessel yo boss i got it ty for looking

[gaunt phoenix]

Np

[vivid vessel]

Np

How did this guy find it

[earnest sphinx]

Idk hes the goat

[vivid vessel]

Goat

Ok I was like

2 songs above

I would have gotten it

[earnest sphinx]

Gg

Bro read the text and instantly knew

i only can aspire to be as locked in

[vivid vessel]

You know I mostly discover new sounds from Spotify weekly playlist

It's kinda goated

[earnest sphinx]

i am a AppleMusic enjoyer

[vivid vessel]

It will legit recommend me the most obscure random shit everytime

Kinda a banger I'm ngl

[vivid vessel]

Does apple music has a similar thing

Spotify does like

Recommendations based on what you listen to

[earnest sphinx]

You basically

[vivid vessel]

Every week you get like a 2 h playlist

[earnest sphinx]

Have a radio filled with new songs

Based of What you listen to

[vivid vessel]

Ye

[wintry solar]

Do people still use Pandora?

[vivid vessel]

Does it work good tho

Wtf is Pandora bro

The blue people planet or

[earnest sphinx]

It occasionally delivers some bangers

[craggy kelp]

Not oldge enough buddy

Pandora was the random internet radio back in the day

[wintry solar]

I forget Zac is 16

[mighty pivot]

pandora was US only, zac is eu anyway

[craggy kelp]

Oh was it

[earnest sphinx]

@vivid vessel

Recently discovered bangers

[wintry solar]

I didn't know that

[mighty pivot]

yeah I don't think they ever made it available here

[vivid vessel]

Sorry I don't listen to things coming from apple music

[earnest sphinx]

g_g

Spotify is bringing lossless so it might be time to swap

[craggy kelp]

[wintry solar]

Apple music would mean I have to use an iphone

All the streaming services on my phone are cracked

I forget spotify has ads

And youtube

[earnest sphinx]

we dont use YouTube to listen to music in the big 25

[wintry solar]

It recommends better music than spotify tbh

I just type music in the search bar and boom

[vivid vessel]

I wish I was using ytb music I'm ngl

[earnest sphinx]

I feel like YouTube is looping the same 20 songs

[vivid vessel]

Ytb got everything

[wintry solar]

There's my Demon Hunter or whatever

[vivid vessel]

Spotify is limited

[earnest sphinx]

Thats the only reason YouTube on top

[vivid vessel]

Can't have remix and shit

[earnest sphinx]

leaks and allat

[vivid vessel]

Y

[earnest sphinx]

Live sets

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-happy-chilling-smile-shaking-gif-17646273

[vivid vessel]

On Spotify I probably have a good 1/20 of my songs

That are gone

In my main playlist

They are greyed out

And will never come back

[earnest sphinx]

My main playlist is absolutely grey

[vivid vessel]

[earnest sphinx]

HAHA same

[wintry solar]

Spotify has Acid Bath which YouTube doesn't

So it goes both ways sometimes

[craggy kelp]

Is lastfm still a thing

[vivid vessel]

Also one of my favorite song got legit replaced by another

And that makes me so mad

Like it was a random girl doing a cover of a song

And for some reason that same song now link to another guy song singing the cover

Like ??

I will never figure that one out

Forever lost

[earnest sphinx]

https://youtu.be/jelaEwcewXY?si=-t-cw6hWq-9lBVOI wont find this anywhere but YouTube

https://tenor.com/view/yay-gif-582654785695353762

[vivid vessel]

I wish Spotify was more like YouTube bro ..

[mighty pivot]

yeah imagine youtube comment section on spotify

[wintry solar]

I thank my wide taste in music from YouTube. It'll sometimes play a song from a completely different genre.

[vivid vessel]

That's wild

[wintry solar]

Out of the blue

[vivid vessel]

Would never do that

[wintry solar]

You ever heard of Carbon Based Lifeforms?

[earnest sphinx]

U need to give yourself credit for not skipping it

[wintry solar]

I was listening to Conan and this came up after. https://youtu.be/hYoOrOc_Roc

I listen to them when I drive home in the morning after work

[wintry solar]

There's no telling how many songs I skipped without knowing if I liked it or not.

[earnest sphinx]

Its giving main character vibes

[wintry solar]

Gone.

Into the void

[earnest sphinx]

Yep

[vivid vessel]

I never skip a song

Song

Unless I know it already

And it's bad

I will never skip a song I don't know

Thats litteraly illegal !

[wintry solar]

Yeah. Now I don't but before I was more open minded I more than likely skipped over gold because it wasn't one of the 3 genres I listened to

[earnest sphinx]

U should make a second twitch channel where you dj

Minmaxx the profits

[vivid vessel]

I mean

That's the main reason people watch me probably anywya

It's my main business model no cap

[earnest sphinx]

so use it and build from it

[remote dragon]

I like watching other ppl suffer playing outlaw, idk maybe its just me

[earnest sphinx]

There used to be a guy that streamed league and was popular for His banger playlist eventually became a dj i think

[frank root]

i have added it to my playplist after hearing it on your stream
And the lyrics stays in mind

[wintry solar]

What song

[earnest sphinx]

Das beat wrestling my mind

[wintry solar]

Yeah it's pretty good

Imma save it too

[hardy wigeon]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
• Just before key placement use AR into KS to get Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
• KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
• During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open onto the pack with AR into BtE.

[buoyant cosmos]

Do you ever listen to Young American Primitive?

Sunrise is probably their most popular song

[wintry solar]

Trying them out now

This is pretty cool

[mighty pivot]

popo do you like the salted caramel variant of twix?

[wintry solar]

I do

[mighty pivot]

I think it's the first twix spinoff that is actually good

[wintry solar]

Adding them to my playlist, good recommendation

[wintry solar]

I agree

Their cookies and cream was such a let down

How do you mess that up?

[mighty pivot]

I don't remember having that here, but anything else was disappointing

[wintry solar]

Weird

I wonder what flavors you got that I don't then

[mighty pivot]

right now only original, white chocolate, and salted caramel

[wintry solar]

Are you eating a Twix now?

[mighty pivot]

I don't know how they decide how long seasonal flavours are kept around

maybe based on sales

[mighty pivot]

I had one 5 minutes ago

you want me to lick the wrapping and mail it to you?

[wintry solar]

Yes

My back keeps popping, I'm getting old.

[mighty pivot]

is your back a pringles can?

[wintry solar]

Do Pringles cans pop?

[jade abyss]

Does replacing Thief by Sleight of hand is supposed to sim better depending on gear or it's just performing better because of bug not reflecting in sims?

for m+ aoe build

[mighty pivot]

once you pop you cannot stop

[wintry solar]

I wish it would

I feel decrepit rn

[mighty pivot]

I can give you a back massage lemme grab the oil

[wintry solar]

[hardy wigeon]

nerf bm

[buoyant cosmos]

You're welcome

Have you tried the dark chocolate and mint kit-kat?

[wintry solar]

I don't think so. I'm very peculiar about mint and chocolate

I'm not against trying it but I don't think I would.

[buoyant cosmos]

It surprised me. I haven't had it in a while but iirc it was mint forward then dark bitter after

[wintry solar]

Next time I see it I'll try it out

[old gyro]

Im main sub/assa
now try also get hands on outlaw
Is it still good to have WA for roll?

[wintry solar]

It's decent

[true shadow]

guys what's the best embellishment for crafted sword? Elemental Focusing Lens ?

[buoyant cosmos]

You should try and not use the one that tells you when to roll and learn the rules. It's more satisfying that way.

[quiet root]

i used a when-to-roll WA as training wheels until i got good enough at the rest of the rotation

having to learn everything at the same time is rough

[buoyant cosmos]

We use double lens

[true shadow]

thanks

[buoyant cosmos]

I can see that, but I used it for a while and in my case it became a real crutch.

[quiet root]

for me, as the rest of the rotation became muscle memory, i had more room in my brain to look at the rolls myself

and eventually i started not blindly obeying the WA anymore

like not just rolling if KIR was about to come off cd

and then i didn't need the WA anymore

[torpid fiber]

Yeah I have my rtb weakaura glow when I should roll (excluding kir rerolls) but also I basically always know 5+ gcds in advance that the roll condition is going to happen

[buoyant cosmos]

It shocked me how bad I was with the entire mechanic once I turned it off. I like to caution new people if I can.

@wintry solar this mix is really good too https://youtu.be/pVcXrbOezhI

[quiet root]

if i had to start over learning outlaw from scratch i'd use the WA again tbh

[buoyant cosmos]

Totally a me problem

[quiet root]

the spec is already hard enough without having to worry about minmaxing rtb

if you're new to it

[vivid vessel]

Just maintaining rtb is kinda fine nowadays tho

That's what noobs should be doing at start

Like rtb isnt hard like it has been in the past

[quiet root]

it definitely is easier now

still, not having to worry about it past pressing rtb/kir when you're told is a lot of mental tax gone i feel like

maybe it's just different from person to person

[buoyant cosmos]

I think this is the big difference

[gaunt phoenix]

gonna change rtb rules every 3 weeks just to fuck with rotation weakauras

[buoyant cosmos]

Huge if true

[gaunt phoenix]

[quaint mauve]

what i do

[sour harness]

as an outlaw rogue, what class should i make the dwarf have when i delve?

[gaunt phoenix]

Healer

[sour harness]

tank is just like an extra healthbar to me, but hes much stupider and pulls everything, but hes very inconsisent as well with healer

[gaunt phoenix]

you just perma tricks healer bran

Or you are so geared it doesnt matter what you do

[sour harness]

do you know what menu i can change him at?

[gaunt phoenix]

but healer bran will rarely die on his own and will keep you alive if you need it

[sour harness]

or do i gotta go to dornogal

[gaunt phoenix]

Uhh just at the start of your next delve

[indigo token]

they really gotta make tank brann better

hes so dog ass

wrong class

ome20

[quaint mauve]

this game is so hard to teach

[indigo token]

https://tenor.com/view/ome20-gif-9226759380346778850

[gaunt phoenix]

me when i play dark ranger bm

and do 8 million boss dps

[buoyant cosmos]

He only dies in ?? Delves when you really don't need him to

[quaint mauve]

more ST more aoe more everything

[red zinc]

me when i play dark ranger bm but i miss one black arrow proc because the monkey tank im raidleading just jumped off the platform with a tank mechanic

(ON SALHADAAR)

[indigo token]

[buoyant cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/cinema-gif-5935759059195122434

[red zinc]

I was so baffled when I saw the galaxy smash move towards the edge of the platform but was like “maybe they think this is like p2 whatever”

And then he just jumps off

[hasty warren]

Hi pirates

[vivid vessel]

ok but thats true for every spell in the game tho?

why do that with rtb and not something else

pistol shot

adr

vanish

[quiet root]

well multiple reasons

rtb is further from what's "normal" in the game than the other things you mention

also most people do have UI elements telling you when pistol shot is ready

adr you notice immediately if it's not up

vanish is a cd-like

i mean technically you're right, if you're doing it for RTB why not go all the way and use hekili or something

and only press the buttons you're told to press

but feels-wise rtb is different, disconnected even, from the rest of the rotation

definitely felt that way when i was starting out

[pearl topaz]

give us death grip grappling hook

[vivid vessel]

well you need to track the rtb buffs

but i think thats a given anyway since it changes your rotation slightly and its nice to then be aware of what buffs ytou have

so you arent surprised when you gain infinite cps from broadside for example

[desert tendon]

imagine not having 100% uptime on broadside

loser

[desert tendon]

i have to remind that opportunity is tracked by default in game with the things arround your character showing procs

[vivid vessel]

that shit so bad

if i ever see a guy using that

[desert tendon]

dont even need to install something

[vivid vessel]

instant blacklist

[desert tendon]

it is, but at least it exists

and it does the same thing

idk if it tracks 3 and 6 stacks tho

[vivid vessel]

no ti doeenst bro what

it doestn have a timer

it doesnt track stacks

[red zinc]

Theyll probably remove that indicator by accident next patch anyway

[vivid vessel]

its ugly and take half your screen

[desert tendon]

yea it just tracks that it exists

oh yea

the oppacity

on that thing

[red zinc]

lizzard just removes visual indicators and never adds new ones

[desert tendon]

is a killer

[glass mortar]

CENSI

brann check

[vivid vessel]

bro my brann is litterally max level weran

am i cooekd

[glass mortar]

what level is it

[vivid vessel]

💀

90

its the max

[glass mortar]

ya ur cooked

[vivid vessel]

💀

bro

delve enjoyer

💀

[glass mortar]

90 maxed

bro not even tryin

[vivid vessel]

wit its 100?

im like certain i couldnt go above

am i cooked

[glass mortar]

yes

ur brann is skillcapped

skillchecked

[vivid vessel]

like he stopped i swear

[red zinc]

Get some hoes

[vivid vessel]

this mf went afk at 90

[red zinc]

Why are yall doing this many delves

[vivid vessel]

timmy

[red zinc]

Seek aid

[glass mortar]

it takes like 10X the xp to get 90-100

maybe thats y

[vivid vessel]

you seen my new favorite outlaw meme or

[red zinc]

is it img_1.gif

[vivid vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187390524802486344/1419538058520428595/image_1.gif

ye

idk

[glass mortar]

[red zinc]

[vivid vessel]

i think its legendary im ngl

[red zinc]

image_1 > topic 1

[vivid vessel]

i wonder why it deosnt work cause i see it here

[glass mortar]

idk i think this new reaction image works perfectly for outlaw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/524189841026580480/1419923890120949800/image.png?ex=68d386ac&is=68d2352c&hm=b2ce2ba61acfc1a362320b2bbc8b9ad912ae4713d7519c920e3cb9c8c88fb991&

[copper radish]

Pin it

[red zinc]

#outlaw unseriousness vs outlaw dev unseriousness

Top 10 anime battles

[vivid vessel]

we have a dev?

[copper radish]

When people ask if I play outlaw rogue can I choose to not tell them 😂

[vivid vessel]

thats cap bro

[copper radish]

Someone at realz where the changes at

[red zinc]

hes less serious about development than a random gay guy about a relationship

[indigo token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982342616614043680/1419842577003184138/image.gif

[vivid vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187390524802486344/1419538058520428595/image_1.gif

[red zinc]

Wtf

[vivid vessel]

loser

[red zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982342616614043680/1419842577003184138/image.gif

[vivid vessel]

no wtf

image_1.gif is so much better bro, stop

[glass mortar]

zac my toxic trait is that when tanks keep pulling trash ontop of bosses in my +12s and +13s i refuse to turn BF off

bm doesnt deserve to funnel

😠

[quaint mauve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187390524802486344/1419538058520428595/image_1.gif

[vivid vessel]

i barely turn bf off anymore

[red zinc]

Does bm have funnel?

[vivid vessel]

in higher keys

mobs last too long

[glass mortar]

idk the tank said "for bm funnel"

[vivid vessel]

we start dying

[glass mortar]

so i killed them all

[vivid vessel]

if i dont bf

[glass mortar]

maybe he was just trying to hype me up

[red zinc]

bm got like

what