outlaw

[gaunt phoenix]

oh

[fathom bramble]

I wonder if they want people to not know how it works to mitigate gaming of the system

[frank finch]

@vivid vessel did that 20 ara give u score?

[wintry solar]

It's like that thing where 1 person only lies and the other only tells the truth but there's 20 of them and they all lie

[dawn talon]

dude it's actually so obnoxious

it feels like they perma withhold information

about how everything on their fucking site works

u have to lap up vague crumbs of information that may or may not be true to have any idea how anything works

[quaint mauve]

if i don’t have to travel i’d love to apply, applying to air force internships has been a chore

[frail veldt]

ooo

My college roommate is airforce now

its interesting

its a wild time haha

[vivid vessel]

y

[vivid vessel]

idk lol

[quaint mauve]

you don’t seem to be doing you fb vanish rules properly

[fathom bramble]

or quite possibly the only person who knows how it actually works is the one dude that set it up

and there is no documentation

so everyonee you asked was just guessing

[frail veldt]

they told you that you couldnt int the meters?

with just 1 person?

[vivid vessel]

ye

they told me 50

logs

which is false

[frail veldt]

thats bullshit ofc

[fathom bramble]

it's 50 public kills total to get onto the stats right

not 50 of that spec

or something

[vivid vessel]

yep

50 of any spec

class i mean

[frail veldt]

ah maybe miscommunication

[vivid vessel]

and the boss is in stats

nah no way

i asked like 3 times

reworded

3 times

cause i was sure they werent understanding my question

and i still didnt get a proper answer

but now i know so its fine

you can int overall all stats

with one kill

thats all i needed to know

im killing dimmy as outlaw this week guys

dw

i gotchu

[fathom bramble]

when do you raid?

[vivid vessel]

tomorow

[fathom bramble]

maybe too late for buffs to be next week then

[vivid vessel]

why you trinna snipe r1 from me

[fathom bramble]

I'm probably not getting a dimmy law kill for like another 10+ days

[frank finch]

to late?

[vivid vessel]

[frank finch]

zac told me to hold on the buff talks

[fathom bramble]

we are only planning 6/8 next week(4 days from now)

[frank finch]

ohh hell nah

[fathom bramble]

only raiding 1 day for that week so

[vivid vessel]

I hope my raid leader doesnt mind i play outlaw

[fathom bramble]

not exactly going to pull a full reclear probably

[vivid vessel]

we have no boost on dimmy yet

so should be fine

[fathom bramble]

did you see our kill

[vivid vessel]

nah

[fathom bramble]

we would have legit not killed it if I was law

[vivid vessel]

i mean

i know

[fathom bramble]

5 people alive at the end

[vivid vessel]

like i was hard carrying platforms in p2 wiwthout me idk how that would have worked out

and ye

[fathom bramble]

yeah same

[vivid vessel]

p3 damage

i mean idk

maybe p3 damage is similar

[fathom bramble]

but we started overkilling so I just moved to hard focusing adds/wall

[vivid vessel]

but with p3 getting shorter and shorter

sub gonna gap harder

[fathom bramble]

so my platform damage started looking weaker

or people stop holding damage and sub can't line everything up for free anymore

which could make it look marginally worse

but still insane in P3

but I guess in the end platform damage doesn't matter once we start outgearing it like that

[vivid vessel]

ye maybe

but during prog i was hard carrying so idk

even the adds right

the casting adds

[fathom bramble]

yeah

[vivid vessel]

i was basically doing 60% of the damage

kinda wild

[fathom bramble]

I was top damage on them

[vivid vessel]

im exagerating

[fathom bramble]

sometimes by a lot

[vivid vessel]

but big numba

[fathom bramble]

pausing buffs/debuff and cooldown timers is probably far more reasonable of a solution

they could also just not design fights in a way that lets you just delay doing literally nothing for 20 seconds to gain an advantage

dimensius could have easily been a timer boss

where damage always mattered

[red zinc]

[cinder oxide]

ethiopian food is soo yummy it makes me want a ST buff

[stiff vector]

[ember goblet]

whats fast APM like Outlaw?

[haughty wigeon]

got kicked cause i keptr on stealing aggro from co tank

i love pugs

[vivid vessel]

skill isue

[haughty wigeon]

[indigo token]

YOOOOOOOO

this emote is fire

[wintry solar]

[deep sequoia]

anyone know what weakaura this is?

[vivid vessel]

luxthos with my rtb weak aura

luxthos is so bad tho ..

!

[deep sequoia]

THE BOI

[vivid vessel]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[vivid vessel]

you can get the guy one tho

oh ye afenar sorry

im stupid

idk why i said luxhtos

[deep sequoia]

the tracker for the flawless form/unseen stacks is op

[vivid vessel]

everything i said was for afenar

[deep sequoia]

i need

[vivid vessel]

not luxthos

[deep sequoia]

appreciate it bb

now i get to do slightly more than tank dam

[red zinc]

Thanks twin i made it

[heady gale]

good evening friends, question...
Do you wanna try and get high stacks of flawless form before going into vanish/AR?

Sort of push coup stacks

[red zinc]

[quaint mauve]

wym

you want to coup before vanishing as trickster yes

you should always be in AR

ur aiming for 100% uptime on adr

[heady gale]

yeah yeah you explained it perfect ty

i was just ripping vanish on cd and got coup during vanish

dont know if tthats okay too

[quaint mauve]

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
• Just before key placement use AR into KS to get Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
• KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
• During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open onto the pack with AR into BtE.

[quaint mauve]

this helps

with ur first coup

[quaint mauve]

its bad but not the end of the world

youd be wasting ubs though when building with ss

[heady gale]

whats ubs remind me?

[wintry solar]

Unseen blades

[heady gale]

tytytyty

do you guys save some pistol shot stacks before vanish aswell?

or just build with it on cd more or less

[cinder relic]

fury, fire mage

[worthy elm]

isnt fire mage also garbage atm?

[verbal herald]

Not garbage afaik, arcane is just op

[cinder relic]

Fire is bad yes

[indigo token]

fire feels like ass to play too

[deep sequoia]

how do u get it so the wa doesnt disappear when i vanish? lol im bad at editing weakauras

[vivid vessel]

Idk ask guy

He a weirdo that only raid

So he has weird settings like that

[gaunt phoenix]

just load tab > in combat

[deep sequoia]

wut dat mean brother

[gaunt phoenix]

click the load tab for the weakaura group and uncheck the option to only load it in combat

im guessing it only loads in combat so thats why it disappears on vanish

[cinder relic]

That is exactly why

[deep sequoia]

nothing is checked and it still does it

[gaunt phoenix]

what's the wa link

[cinder relic]

Click in combat

and then unclick it

[deep sequoia]

https://wago.io/c4IUS8brL

[cinder relic]

Click the in combat thing twice

[deep sequoia]

ah i see

appreciate it

[smoky venture]

Is there a website that tells you what your atrophic poison works on?

[gaunt phoenix]

Not for this tier i think

[red zinc]

who up on a glorping spree rn

[wintry solar]

[red zinc]

Real talk they should redesign killing spree as if you’re a cool lil alien dude

Blinking around shooting a gun and shi

sure that would work really well in the current game

[fallen mural]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-shooting-dont-be-a-menace-funny-lmao-gif-6119299

anyone have the weak aura that puts the crosshair on your character. Just stand alone.

[graceful solar]

Zac has one on his wago

https://wago.io/6Xo93TUhx

Should be this

[fallen mural]

ty

[ember goblet]

may be time to alt having no push group and 0 active 16 keys going bleh

[quaint mauve]

yeah that’s im doing

lfg feels so dead

[tender wedge]

might be a "wait til turboboost" angle

[quaint mauve]

i don’t see a choice ngl

no one’s running keys idk

or atleast not the keys i want to do

[tender wedge]

i kinda don't enjoy the game if im not doing keys while talking shit with the lads so if i can't play with a group i just kinda dont but yeah that does suck

[quaint mauve]

my tank went to a party friday and has been so hungover since that he hasn’t even logged on

so

😕

[tender wedge]

sounds like a great party tbh

[keen belfry]

why my addon list saying this

[drowsy ridge]

Hm... yes. You have almost 4 CPUs in there. That makes sense

[quaint mauve]

@keen belfry do you have a dh wa

and a monk wa

and a

everything else wa

[keen belfry]

i forgor u asked for my mage WA

[quaint mauve]

someone sent it

but yeah i can’t play other classes with those doodoo wa

i need them all to look like my rogue ones

[keen belfry]

i have feral and dh ones

i dthink my dh ones are only aldrachi

and half cooked

https://wago.io/uOiAmvuxs @quaint mauve

[stiff vector]

[peak dock]

is wound poison not afecting sigar anymore?

it says 0%

[gaunt phoenix]

[buoyant cosmos]

Is he the first person to look at the debuff on the guy?

[quaint mauve]

invite my mage once ur at key ilvl ...

[quaint mauve]

he actually might be

back to my alts ig

[keen belfry]

my dk needs a boost and gear

[agile quiver]

I like how Flawless Form is in the new Advanced Cooldown Manager...

and it doesn't freaking work.

Like it's shown as "Unlearned" even when in Trickster:

[torpid fiber]

Press F6!

[agile quiver]

yeah, I did. I also have zero expectations of it being fixed

[agile quiver]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[royal ermine]

interaction I just had after pug healing first 2m

junk

[torpid fiber]

LMAO

[gaunt phoenix]

Wtf

[silent palm]

what enchant are we using in M+ for our weps or is it just minimal so doesn't matter much?

[stiff vector]

LMAO

new meme born

[gaunt phoenix]

it seems radiant / crit / vers are all about the same

[stiff vector]

outlaw rogue?

JUNK

[silent palm]

ty kind sir 🫡

[gaunt phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187390524802486344/1419538058520428595/image_1.gif

[random stirrup]

i have investigated the log and i believe i see why he called it junk

poor outlaw did not have a good night

[tender wedge]

Ooo a new meme I like it

[long barn]

!pre

!prekey

[ornate heath]

Pre-key fuckery

• RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.
• Just before key placement use AR into KS to get Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs.
• KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
• During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
• After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
• Before entering the first pack BF into Stealth.
• Open onto the pack with AR into BtE.

[midnight granite]

another week another no weekly weapon 🙂

[deep sequoia]

anyone have a weapon swap weakaura?

i keep forgetting to swap lol

[gaunt phoenix]

!weaponswap

[ornate heath]

You can swap most weapons in keys. Outlaw swaps between the Nightfall event weapon for trash and a better offhand for bosses, such as Capo (change the name):

/equipslot 17 Nightfall Curseblade's Cudgel
/equipslot 17 Capo's Molten Knuckles```
If your offhand is the same name as your mainhand or you have two of them in your bags, then the above macro won't work, you have to swap by bag slot:
```#showtooltip 17
/equipslot 17 Nightfall Curseblade's Cudgel
/equipslot 17 <bag #> <bag slot #>```
Note that **Gallywix's Iron Thumb** cannot be swapped in keys.

[quaint mauve]

the alt experience

[delicate seal]

Rookie numbers

20 deaths and you already have more than one boss dead

[torpid fiber]

It be like that

[vivid vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187390524802486344/1419538058520428595/image_1.gif

[torpid fiber]

image_1.gif

[desert tendon]

image_1.gif

[vivid vessel]

Why my gif no worky tf

[balmy topaz]

Zac sending Mr boeast doggy links

gg

[vivid vessel]

Glorping it rn

[stiff glade]

[balmy topaz]

Woah that emote goes hard

can we have that as a server role

[haughty wigeon]

[red zinc]

we rise

[fallen mural]

If you shiv +imp wound poison mini boss does it do a concentrate wound poison?

of HoA?

[red zinc]

naw

maybe it stacks slightly faster but i think it reaches max stacks before the heal without that already

[fallen mural]

Ya we attempted our 17 HoA, We made it last boss and 62% on him with about 1 min 25 left and called it 🙁

[frail veldt]

Shiv amplifies your non lethal poison

Wound is a lethal poison

[fallen mural]

oh ya that's true lmao i always think its non lethal. Thanks for the correction

[strong halo]

I’ve been gone a week we get buffed yet?

[cinder haven]

Doesn’t look like it will happen

[cinder mica]

what do you mean with buffed? Outlaw is the best performing rogue spec looking at mythic stats and public logs

[deep sequoia]

@vivid vessel

[wintry solar]

Energy still shitty

RAHHHH

[devout garden]

This shit scared me like job application

[young prism]

that should go to pins

[deep sequoia]

real

[young prism]

can we also add battle res or BL to that image please?

or something like "grappling hooks grips two targets to player location"

[cinder mica]

Adrenaline Rush now also buffs another player is also missing

[smoky lotus]

"adrenaline rush gcd reduction no longer tied to haste. Sorry"

[nova basin]

and blade flurry also doing 10% more damage per target above 8 targets.

[wintry solar]

Adrenaline Rush now paused after not attacking for 3 seconds

[red zinc]

20% lowkey too much i cant even lie

[red zinc]

We DESERVE this patch note on alpha

sorry included

From whoever added it

Signed confession

[hollow bloom]

[cinder mica]

so real talk. why do I always get baited to play outlaw just to end up crying in a corner at the end of the day?

[wintry solar]

Because Outlaw has this thing where it ruins every other spec in the game

Frankly it's annoying

Falling asleep playing another spec and I'm also doing triple what outlaw does

[red zinc]

ok popo

😃 👍

[wintry solar]

Don't be mean

It was an exaggeration

[cinder mica]

i do not have that problem.. i enjoy other classes who are as fucked as outlaw KEKW

[wintry solar]

Outlaw is leagues the most fun spec

Nothing competes

Bdk is fun

From an immune to mechanics standpoint

[ivory valley]

I can agree with that, i do hate outlaw but i have been having fun practicing it for soul hunters, even if i look over at the meters and somehow im bottom

[wintry solar]

Yeahhhh best we not think about damage lol

[ivory valley]

Yeah.... idk, im assigned mechanics and the movement is actually amazing

and then me and the other alt spec outlaw rogue are just neck and neck battling for last

honestly, i really cant understand what im doing wrong. I'd assume it lies in rolls, but i hope its not and i can actually improve before next raid day

or my lack of comprehension of rolls

[quaint mauve]

i do better ST on my 690 arcane

[torpid fiber]

outlaw is really hard and also loses giga dps from literally any downtime bc it's cringe

[ivory valley]

idk i have a WA that tells me when to re roll, KIR, etc

and im wondering if thats kinda cucking me

cause i really feel like im pumping or should be

[quaint mauve]

i think that weakaura isn’t bad from what i’ve been told

[wintry solar]

It's alright but it kinda holds you back

[ivory valley]

yeah, im probably just bad and missing some rules i suppose

[torpid fiber]

rolling isn't the hard part of outlaw

[ivory valley]

what would you say is the hard part?

[torpid fiber]

the hard part is everything else tbh

it's being consistent at full speed for the whole fight

[wintry solar]

Uptime, vanish rules, stuff like that.

[ivory valley]

I'm good with vanish rules, i'm ngl uptime is probably lacking since in soul hunters im literally having mechanics that I need to do every 15-30s

bosses arent stacked sometimes when im hitting a vanish, but that can be fixed

[wintry solar]

None of it is hard by itself but there's a lot of crap and its just annoying to play around so many BS rules

[ivory valley]

AR uptime is rough on that boss though

i only had a full pulls where i actually even had it for intermission one

few*

[torpid fiber]

Yeah if you're not getting giga uptime I also kinda can't imagine outlaw is better than the other specs on the fight either tbh?

[ivory valley]

honestly

atp

I think sin or sub dmg WOULD be better

for me at least

but also

outlaw movement is clutch on that fight too

[torpid fiber]

that's fair

[ivory valley]

so im just trying to learn this shit

okay so

I've been doing a lot of 10s

im 713 and my avg run is like 6m dps

i feel like it should be 8 or higher

obviously that depends on pulls/ tank etc sometimes

but idk, i just need help

i'd like to parse for this fight but my dps last week was bad the whole week ( along with the other off spec outlaw rogue we have) and i'd just like to do better i suppose

I feel like ive looked at wowhead guide and it seems pretty straight forward but i feel like i must be missing something

im adjusting while playing and trying different things and learning and idk, im at a bottleneck

[wintry solar]

Could it be you don't have vanish rules down?

But fr do you record your gameplay?

[ivory valley]

i dont unfortunately, i could have them wrong

i have some logs

[wintry solar]

Darn

[ivory valley]

if you'd like to look

[wintry solar]

Zac can look

[ivory valley]

i know they kinda suck to look at

[vivid vessel]

rtb will now roll more buffs more often is the most accurate blue post fake i have ever seen

[wintry solar]

Welp

[ivory valley]

tbf, since those logs, ive learned a few things

[red zinc]

I can look

[deep sequoia]

nah bro its real

[wintry solar]

You can do that !log command

Oh there you go

Did you see how Timmy was mean to me earlier though?

[mighty pivot]

Logs help way more even if they're not easy to parse for outlaw

[deep sequoia]

wox sent it to me he would never lie about it

[red zinc]

[vivid vessel]

frfr

[wintry solar]

Timmy pulled up on my block!

[ivory valley]

cook my shit please

[red zinc]

im bout to slide on your glorpck

bend that corner woaoah

[wintry solar]

This used to be a nice neighborglorp

[red zinc]

outluh neighborhood coming soon

[mighty pivot]

No thanks the chat is readable right now

[ivory valley]

i dm'd you timmy

should i post here

idc either way

[mighty pivot]

You can do !log

[red zinc]

Idk where the message requests thing is on mobile

[wintry solar]

He pulled up on you

[ivory valley]

ill post here fuck it

im bad, i know that lmfaooo

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XJ6pkDZTFw1YyMRC

[vivid vessel]

im doing an outlaw EU neighboroud day 1 bro

that shit gonna go crazy

only the goats are allowed

[red zinc]

We are not voting you as mayor twin

[mighty pivot]

I'm in then

[red zinc]

Vurai for mayor day 1 supporter

[wintry solar]

Same

[mighty pivot]

Bread enjoyer neighbourhood

[red zinc]

yall better do the neighborhood endeavors man im tryna get my night fae cuck chair for the cuck chair collection

[wintry solar]

I'm gonna make a porno room with cameras and shit

[red zinc]

ill take a look when i get home from my train

[red zinc]

woah chill

on topic

[wintry solar]

Ninjarobots idea btw

[red zinc]

he is not invited to the function

[wintry solar]

Dang dude

[ivory valley]

bet, i told you the things ive learned since those logs. Appreciate it

[mighty pivot]

Bruh what

[vivid vessel]

your name is blue

[wintry solar]

Imagine not being invited to your own party

[vivid vessel]

you staying out buddy

[mighty pivot]

Yours is pink

You are as fake

[red zinc]

thats the real outlaw colour

[vivid vessel]

im getting popo in tho

[red zinc]

[mighty pivot]

Ok that's gigarude

[wintry solar]

You're bringing a knife to a gunfight dude

[vivid vessel]

All the outlaw goats

[red zinc]

What other outlaw abilities are glorpifiable

[mighty pivot]

I'll make my own neighbourhood with blackjack and grappling hookers

[vivid vessel]

outlaw

Outlaw

Playing the outlaw spec

[red zinc]

ouwlaw

[vivid vessel]

You have to be

To qualify

You get me

Or

[red zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/124169701881282560/1265638924580159488/outlaw.gif

[vivid vessel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187390524802486344/1419538058520428595/image_1.gif

BRO

[red zinc]

skill issue

[vivid vessel]

What's the issue with this gif

[red zinc]

nice gif idiot

[mighty pivot]

[vivid vessel]

Whatdeheck

[wintry solar]

I knew one tricking outlaw would bear fruit at some point

[red zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923682607857685/1413242281515024545/image.gif

[mighty pivot]

Noob embedder

[red zinc]

zinc ill return to ouwlaw in time for neighborhood dw

[wintry solar]

zinc

Timmy's just waiting for outlaw to be good again instead of sticking with it while it's bad

Smh

[mighty pivot]

That's a long wait

Until this week's tuning

[red zinc]

dawg I played ouwlaw in s2 df shit was trenches

Its just not healthy gameplay wise rn

[vivid vessel]

You are in dw cuh

[red zinc]

so many illogical decisions

[wintry solar]

It is not no

Yeah

[vivid vessel]

Only guy in this chat not in is ninjarobot

[wintry solar]

Imagine

[vivid vessel]

This cuck doesn't even have a right colored name

Like

[red zinc]

like legit I’d probably play it solely if they switched ks to be single target

[vivid vessel]

bro expecting to be in the goat neighborhood

[quaint mauve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187390524802486344/1419538058520428595/image_1.gif

[vivid vessel]

With this

[quaint mauve]

wtf

[vivid vessel]

Like I can't lmao

[red zinc]

aw hell nawl

[mighty pivot]

Holy fails

[vivid vessel]

You are in aswelll

[red zinc]

hml my favorite new guy

[vivid vessel]

Everyone is in!

Ye this html giy

Kinda goated

[wintry solar]

[red zinc]

html . Https

type beat

[quaint mauve]

what i do

[wintry solar]

Will you be my neighbor?

[quaint mauve]

sure move in to LA

[red zinc]

we are gentrifying popo’s neighborhood and sending him to the barrens

[mighty pivot]

I bet popo's house will stink

[red zinc]

!!

[vivid vessel]

Wait Timmy

Ain't you NA

[red zinc]

no

[vivid vessel]

You ain't getting in the goats neighborhood then

Oh

[red zinc]

im dutch

[quaint mauve]

this video is actually so funny

[vivid vessel]

You eu?

Nvm then

[quaint mauve]

why’s is christinas mom a demon

[red zinc]

ouwlaw topic #26 random tiktoks

[vivid vessel]

Solo won't even be in the goat neighborhood

What a loser

He will be alone with foreverguy

💀

[red zinc]

Why is this game not crossregion yet

like

shits dumb

[mighty pivot]

Why is it not crossfaction yet

[quaint mauve]

i wouldn’t wanna play with the

[red zinc]

at least make it crossregion for economy / world content cause who tf cares about ping in that

[quaint mauve]

europeans

i feel like those guys r mean

[vivid vessel]

Wait you are na??

Bro that's crazy

[wintry solar]

I am undead so wouldnt it be weird if it didnt?

[red zinc]

Not if you’re extremely racist against certain servers

[vivid vessel]

The na neoghtboursohfhf

Is gonna be so bad bro

[mighty pivot]

If it was cross region we'd have to beta test like murricans. No thx

[red zinc]

neoghtboursohfhf

[vivid vessel]

Popo you eu?

[red zinc]

how do you fuck it up that badly

genuinely

[wintry solar]

NA

[vivid vessel]

Idk I hate that word

Bro wtf popo

[red zinc]

neoghtboursohfhf

[vivid vessel]

Popo is also going in the cucks neoghtboursohfhf

That's crazy

[quaint mauve]

how r u just now figuring that out

what

[red zinc]

he has goldfish memory

dont bully

[mighty pivot]

Zac didn't know he was talking to yanks

[red zinc]

i mean its 3-5am for you bozos

[rotund zodiac]

I’m NA

[red zinc]

Go to sleep

Wtf

[wintry solar]

Word around the block is there is oil under Zacs house....

[mighty pivot]

Liberation time

[wintry solar]

What a coincidence

They also need democracy

[vivid vessel]

Why would there be oil under my house

I'm not American

[wintry solar]

I put it there

[vivid vessel]

I see

[mighty pivot]

It's olive oil

[wintry solar]

Magic

With cracked black pepper?

[mighty pivot]

And a piece of brie and a stale baguette

[wintry solar]

Mmmm

[quaint mauve]

i want bread

[wintry solar]

Party under Zacs house

[red zinc]

get that bread twin

[quaint mauve]

and parmesan with olive oil

[red zinc]

[wintry solar]

Gonna eat bread and listen to rock and roll CD under Zacs house

[mighty pivot]

Timmy will bring the stroopwafels

[red zinc]

man

I bought some stroopwafels the other day

But they were stale

[mighty pivot]

Did you get scammed?

Were they caramel or butter ones?

[wintry solar]

I love butter

[vivid vessel]

You are na

You wont even enter the neighborhood

You noob

Like actual outplayed

[mighty pivot]

Get owned popo

[vivid vessel]

Stfu bro

You ain't even invited

Blue colored

[mighty pivot]

You are not welcome in our neighborhood

The one I'm totally invited in

[vivid vessel]

You EU ninja guy?

[craggy jay]

there are no ninjas in EU

only asia

[mighty pivot]

Of course, I'm not a loser

[vivid vessel]

Nice

Check your mails for an invite

Coming soon

I wonder if you have to pay golds to start a neighborhood

Maybe I need to start banking some gold

[wintry solar]

You're outnumbered 10:1, we'll just take it.

[mighty pivot]

69g

[wintry solar]

Yarrr

[vivid vessel]

Like if everyone can start a neighborhood solo

Or maybe it's like guilds

Where you need a few people

[mighty pivot]

No way it costs much or casuals would riot

[vivid vessel]

To start one

Right

That would make sense

[vivid vessel]

Ye true

[desert tendon]

ik hou van je

[vivid vessel]

I was thinking 10 mil

But that's probably too much

Maybe more like 100k

[red zinc]

lik mn kont kaolo neef

[vivid vessel]

[mighty pivot]

I bet it's like 5k if even that

[wintry solar]

I'm pretty sure it's one neighborhood per account

[desert tendon]

please

can we ban tiem?

He just said very bad things

[red zinc]

dont think so

you can have a horde and alliance house for sure

They said as much

[mighty pivot]

It's one per faction

[desert tendon]

zac i can teach you one dutch word if you want

[wintry solar]

I see

[desert tendon]

it goes

idioot

that s usefull, can spam it to tiem face

[wintry solar]

So much hate recently

Housing will save wow

And more people will play outlaw

[vivid vessel]

House =/ neighborhood

I'm making the eu outlaw neighborhood for sure tho

[red zinc]

well yes and no

[wintry solar]

We will be the next ret pally in terms of popularity

[vivid vessel]

Ain't no one stealing that one from me

[red zinc]

You cant have the same house in multiple neighborhoods

[vivid vessel]

Ok

But then you can be in multiple neighborhood no?

[red zinc]

idk how many diff ones you can have

been pretty vague on that

[wintry solar]

You can also have horde houses in alliance neighborhoods

[vivid vessel]

Just only one house per and one neighborhood per account ?

Or

Bro it's def time to have cross region tho

Like

[desert tendon]

Cool that will be a 5 people village

[vivid vessel]

I want a eu + na neighborhood

[wintry solar]

I'm putting an orc hut in elwynn forest

[vivid vessel]

With all the outlaws

[vivid vessel]

Censi you aren't invited

Stfu

[desert tendon]

is zeross invited zac?

[vivid vessel]

Ye

[desert tendon]

I couldnt care less

[vivid vessel]

All the outlaw goats

[desert tendon]

i aint no wow player

i ve a life

[vivid vessel]

Good for you

My life is wow

Wow is fun

[desert tendon]

i ve monni now

a spouse

kids

2 houses

[red zinc]

cap

[desert tendon]

and a world record

yea guys, you re talking to a world recordman

crazy right?

[wintry solar]

I've seen the proof

Not even bullshitting

Un-stupid for a minute

[desert tendon]

i mean

[wintry solar]

He's telling the truth

[desert tendon]

i m litteraly world record holder

[red zinc]

world record what

[desert tendon]

look at that, 510 views

are you guys impressed or what?

i hope that s not considered self promo, that s not the goal at all

[red zinc]

band

[torpid fiber]

technically I have a dustforce world record on a level (300+ way tie)

[desert tendon]

GOOD

[leaden folio]

[desert tendon]

and we re talking to zac who got nothing, the dude a full random

fr fr

[wintry solar]

I had Rayman legends way back in the day

[torpid fiber]

I also think I have a bunch of fake ass world records for VVVVVV custom levels that are only WRs because no one else ever bothered to try

[desert tendon]

hey

that s a speedrunner trick

make your own category

so you re always winning

[wintry solar]

If you have no competition you don't get better

[vivid vessel]

imn r1 outlaw cuh

[torpid fiber]

tbf one of them I actually did grind out a bunch of frame perfect tricks

That's the only one I think isn't fake

[desert tendon]

good

1 out of 3

gg

[quaint mauve]

yeah sure you are….

zac is a buyer, ima expose him soon….

i have links with the chinese boosting mafia

[desert tendon]

let s check

what s the meta currently in m+?

[quaint mauve]

it’s phys no?

[desert tendon]

Outlaw top 19

top 19 fdk

[quaint mauve]

oh

nvm

check arcane top 19

[desert tendon]

the top 19 dk is almost top 2 outlaw

gg

here have arcane

[vivid vessel]

I'm litteraly rank 20 dps and we play 3 keys a week censi

You fucker

[desert tendon]

good

in a competition with like 50 players at most

that s at least above half of the competition

[vivid vessel]

[desert tendon]

i m so proud of you son

[vivid vessel]

You ain't entering the neighborhood

[desert tendon]

i dont want to be housed next to zeross yapping house anyway

[vivid vessel]

Brother you linked the most niche speedruning category where you are rank 1 btw

[desert tendon]

oh yea niche

that s the most ran category

any% EuEx PC

gg

[vivid vessel]

Ye right

[desert tendon]

how hype are we for SH F tomorrow?

[vivid vessel]

No one knows wtf that game is

[desert tendon]

Noone knows metal gear solid?

[vivid vessel]

What is sh f

[desert tendon]

Ok dude

Silent hill F

[quaint mauve]

i’ve never heard of metal gear speed running

[desert tendon]

i forgot you play only wow

[vivid vessel]

See

Get owned

[wintry solar]

Is it really tomorrow

[desert tendon]

He s mewo apprentice

[wintry solar]

Time flies

[desert tendon]

like no flame

but

anyways

[wintry solar]

Mewo is a born hater ngl

[desert tendon]

Mewo actually hottest hands in this discord

[quaint mauve]

he has a masters in engineering

he’s like a genius

[wintry solar]

Every popular game has speedrunning

[desert tendon]

yea engineering frustration

i gave him this title

[wintry solar]

And he takes it out on US

[desert tendon]

came from a reddit post or something

[desert tendon]

even non popular

[wintry solar]

Yeah

[desert tendon]

you would be suprised about how much competition some non known games have

[wintry solar]

Some people make competition on games no one knows about

He gets it

[desert tendon]

i tried to learn silksong run last week

i FF

too hard for me

[quaint mauve]

man these frozen burritos i got are so good

[mighty pivot]

Popo bad takes speed run - any %

[wintry solar]

Popo has bad takes!

Meanwhile my takes are energy economy sucks and UHUH sucks balls

[wintry solar]

Bring back combat

Did I get the record?

I'll be faster next time

[quaint mauve]

only game i’ve speed ran is re2

[mighty pivot]

Sorry you are only second

[wintry solar]

Dang it

Maybe next time

[mighty pivot]

Second place = first loser

[wintry solar]

1 is the loneliest number

[quaint mauve]

my burrito shit itself

wtf

[wintry solar]

Ngl that's about to be me

[mighty pivot]

Bro wtf is that

Is this outlaw food

[vivid vessel]

Peak outlaw food

[quaint mauve]

my burrito that blew up

[mighty pivot]

Microwave burrito

[quaint mauve]

it’s good

[mighty pivot]

Zac will offer cooking lessons for the ones in need

[quaint mauve]

ik how to cook

but it’s easier to put these in the microwave for a minute

[mighty pivot]

Well yeah, but it's also easier to eat grass tbh

[wintry solar]

He'd have to eat rocks

So its not actually

[mighty pivot]

I think the only decent microwave food that I've had are some steamed buns

[long lichen]

Unless he learns how to make rock soup

[vivid vessel]

I would steam your buns ninja guy

[wintry solar]

[desert tendon]

wtf is that

is this a nem or what

[mighty pivot]

Sure, when do you have time?

[pulsar notch]

The single-target damage of Outlaw’s [Fateful Bond] is coming out lower than in SimC—what would be a reasonable ± margin of error to expect?

[quaint mauve]

make sure you are following rules for vanish described here

#outlaw message

[pulsar notch]

I'm following the rules, in SimC it's 3.9 million, but in the game it's around 3.5-3.6 million.

[stable pivot]

Just curious, I know the answer to almost everything is just to sim, but when I'm looking at other outlaws' gear I find that they have way less crit than me and way more vers, where simc is telling me to drop mastery instead

[red zinc]

might be a gear dependent thing, not too many crit vers jewelry pieces this tier

[vivid vessel]

It's currently over simming slightly, but also I doubt you are playing perfect like the sim is ?

[red zinc]

crit > mastery in overall / pure st scenarios is definitely the case

[stable pivot]

Like I have double the amount of crit Zac has and the game is still force feeding it to me

[vivid vessel]

I mean is it

[quaint mauve]

this seems within a reasonable range

[vivid vessel]

How do you even know your sim want more Crit

Than vers

[stable pivot]

I'm just crafting a piece and simming different missives on it

Idk, I just thought it was weird having so much crit

[pulsar notch]

I know it can vary depending on dice rolls or other factors, but does this mean my current numbers (3.9m on sim, 3.5–3.6m on actual target dummy) are within an acceptable margin of error?

[proven ocean]

@wemo

@frail veldt

i got a new keyboard case

no cappy looks way better irl than in pic

dps gains for wow light case no cappy

[brisk meadow]

Homie is comitted

Cant even alt f4 anymore

[proven ocean]

xdd i already built it

i got so many keyboards already so np

[brisk meadow]

What Switches

[proven ocean]

lekker v2

@brisk meadow look at the keycaps i ordered

ngl the board feels so fucking nice

[brisk meadow]

[proven ocean]

i feel like i can press buttons accurately and well

idk how the keycaps are gonna feel tho

i hope they'll be good

i experimented alot of key switches and lekker v2 kinda felt the best for me when i play wow

[chrome pollen]

how much haste is considered too much haste? 25ish

yeah im simming it ikr

[brisk meadow]

I keep myself from that rabbit hole Customizing keyboards

I will Just end up giga poor

[proven ocean]

well ye

its big spend

[merry harness]

U need to get ur haste down to the exact cap otherwise unplayable gg

Blame bliz

[chrome pollen]

are u serious? XD

[merry harness]

50/50

There is an exact haste cap

all haste above this cap is not optimal

But it is better to be slightly above then below

Just sim ur gear

[nova basin]

im like .5% over and its so hard to balance gear around it when you get to a certian point its stupid.

replacing one item with an overall upgrade means i have to fully gem and enchant everything into haste.

[quartz magnet]

@vivid vessel does it matter if i pot on pull on nexus king or should i wait for the dmg amp? I can see on logs that some wait and some pot on pull

[proven ocean]

for prog u pot on amp or on platform if u need dmg on platform

afaik

he probably did the same but thats prog so idk about dps logs

[vivid vessel]

Nah after a while we were overkilling platforms

[vivid vessel]

If you pot on pull you get 2 so idk

It's the same shit

[inland acorn]

pot on amp makes sense

If our spec was doing any damage to begin with

[pearl topaz]

give outlaw a grapple that is a grip

[gaunt phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187390524802486344/1419538058520428595/image_1.gif

Nyoo

[mighty pivot]

Outlaw players cannot embed or?

[inland acorn]

you're just not good enough to see this gif

[sullen narwhal]

Turn outlaw rogue into law rogue, instead of a pirate, you're now a paladin

[agile orchid]

lawyer rogue

[vivid vessel]

Bro I know right

Why this shit no worky

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187390524802486344/1419538058520428595/image_1.gif

[nova basin]

law rogue haha, actually made me chuckle

roll the deposition

keep it ruling.

[chilly ember]

We gonna equip books as our off-hand then

[nova basin]

new wepon type being added, the Gavel

[rotund zodiac]

Is Saul Goodman a law rogue player?

[nova basin]

nah he is just a nobody

[zealous lantern]

is this bugged? just gives the 30 sec duration for me

[fallen mural]

Cast it then hit a mob and it goes to one hour

[red zinc]

[fervent garden]

well done with the wordplay there

[nova basin]

then wait to still randomly get aggro that 1 taps you with a perma tricks buff up

[old gull]

Look mom a new icon dropped

[red zinc]

NEW EMOJI TO SPAM WITH NO PRECEDING CONTEXT

[old gull]

[nova basin]

[weary fog]

[zealous lantern]

[vale warren]

[mighty pivot]

[hasty warren]

[stiff glade]

[spare dome]

[vivid vessel]

you aint fitting in cuh

[nova basin]

zac had to be the one to ruin it

[mighty pivot]

Ye I know I'm too cool in comparison

You'll be a fake too zac when outlaw plays with daggers in midnight and you'll use them for the baguettes

[civic zephyr]

my friend DM me this

[spare dome]

you need to glorp all over your friend

[red zinc]

archon sponsored by hunter to stay under radar

[civic zephyr]

yeah idk if its accurate, idk how to respond

[mighty pivot]

Dobby tier hunters

[zealous lantern]

im about to glorp all over the place

[red zinc]

bm lowkey the highest damage spec on every single piece of content rn

[quaint mauve]

[nova basin]

kill the hunters and paladins damage and we might then get enough playerbase to warrent some class updates

[mighty pivot]

The hunter devs are preparing another hotfix to buff survival next

[nova basin]

meanwhile rogue devs are taking their role a bit too seriously and living in the shadows.

[zealous lantern]

my friend called me a unhinged school shooter because i only play outlaw and survival what does this mean

[spare dome]

if you want more people to play rogue and not ret/hunter

you need to nuke reddit

[zealous lantern]

he plays ret paladin so i think its a bit ironic

[wintry solar]

Aw I missed the emoji spam :(

[nova basin]

you didnt miss it, you just didnt have the combo points to cast it at the time.

[mighty pivot]

Solo BT roll

[wintry solar]

Ah yeah

[old gull]

First boss of streets I just had really bad rolls, got every disarm and the leader wanted to surrnder becuase “the outlaw does tank dmg”

[nova basin]

outlaw does tank damage on a good day

[old gull]

We timed it and I won the overall

[nova basin]

imagine you could respec mid key without leaving dungeon, bosses would actually be tollerable.

[wintry solar]

You could change talents in legion but idk about specs

[nova basin]

even if its a hero talent change that would be huge

[wintry solar]

God, Legion did so much right.

[mighty pivot]

Legion was 10 years ago popo. It's time to move on

[nova basin]

until october

then go at it.

[wintry solar]

[wintry solar]

I'm still waiting on a functional Legion private server.

[mighty pivot]

Why

[wintry solar]

Why not?

[nova basin]

even wow cant make classic classic so you be waiting a while.

[mighty pivot]

Why yes

[wintry solar]

You got me Ninja

[mighty pivot]

Lawyered

[nova basin]

law rogued

[severe drift]

Imagine having 3 dps specs class but none of 'em reaching 2% usage in +15 keys and higher. Crazy right ? But imagine.
Outlaw topping at 0.5%, jeez

[wintry solar]

But I just want old versions of WoW accessible for archival reasons.

Blizz won't do it tho

[mighty pivot]

Ye buddy they will run 15 versions just for you

[wintry solar]

Yay :)

[long barn]

When outlaw buffs

[mighty pivot]

Tomorrow

I called John Blizzard and he confirmed

[severe drift]

I wish you were right

[wintry solar]

Tauri is working on it

All is good

I'll never have to download classic again

[long barn]

Yep

[visual bay]

hi new to outlaw. My fatebound coin does like 30-40% less damage on bosstraps. The rest of the damage breakdown looks fine. Anyone has an idea what im doing wrong?

kinda weird

[slate forge]

You bug abusing?

[visual bay]

what bug?

[vivid vessel]

Pin

The second pin

[visual bay]

oh thats interesting. So the raidbots apl does the bug too?

[vague cape]

https://youtu.be/Cl0SNQ59xIU

[severe drift]

lmfao

[copper radish]

This exact video is why I’m playing 3 button BM no multi right now 😂

[fervent garden]

hilarious. sad, but hilarious

[copper radish]

1,2,3 spam whatever’s off CD. 695 hunter and I hit like 20 mil plus on that same pack last night

Did more than my 712 outlaw does on that pack almost 20 ilvls lower 😭

[vague cape]

the hunter doubling your dam with 3 buttons at standard heartrate

[severe drift]

Is it true there are dedicated team per class to balance things or is it a urban legend ?

[grim spear]

starting to suspect that after the future rework we’ll also just turn into a 112113 spec

so until then they’re going to make things as miserable as possible for the people who still like this spec

until basically nobody plays Outlaw anymore.

[severe drift]

What kind of rework are we talking tho, i've never seen anything going that way even tho rogue as a whole needs one

[old gull]

[wintry solar]

It's all speculation

It's only been heavily hinted at

[severe drift]

Here's the thing, I've heard rogue rework stories since S1 DF

[old gull]

Gunslinger, mid range melee

That’s their favorite thing right now that mid range

[wintry solar]

We had the talent revamp in s3 df

[copper radish]

This. Get ready to be a glorified hunter boys without a pet

[wintry solar]

I couldn't stomach outlaw being mid range ngl

[old gull]

Same

[severe drift]

S3 Outlaw was peak gameplay wise imo, then turned horrendous S4

[jolly geyser]

I think they will do nothing,they will just remove the WA "heavy" abilities and give buff%

[copper radish]

Question is. Do we still use DW weps or they gonna be asshats and make us use like a gun

[grim spear]

three absolutely terrible hero talent trees, and from the very beginning until now there’s been basically no meaningful improvement

[old gull]

New weapon type: gun blade

[grim spear]

Across the whole of TWW, the changes we’ve gotten might not even add up to as much as a single minor patch for some specs.

[copper radish]

I could see this tbh 😂

[severe drift]

who wants that mid range shit

[wintry solar]

I've never seen it put that way, that's rough lol

[copper radish]

Sad days to be a rogue. My new hero spec for outlaw is called BM pack leader

[grim spear]

It’s fine if the performance isn’t great, but being ignored is a whole different matter.

[wintry solar]

My prediction changes based on my mood but I can def see them removing KiR and the like while leaving what's really wrong with outlaw alone.

I'm imagining current outlaw without KiR

[copper radish]

This. They gonna be like “guys we revamped outlaw” and leave all the shit we complain about in game still

Leave all the 2+ year old bugs

[indigo token]

they've all but said "we dont want you to play outlaw rogue"

[wintry solar]

They're giving rtb to the new DH spec

[rocky kiln]

!fuu

[ornate heath]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[wintry solar]

I don't want to be pessimistic but damn ngl

Kinda hard not to be lol

I don't think there's ever been a bad iteration of outlaw but, some patches are much much worse than others.

Now probably my least favorite

[copper radish]

When I do a milly more DPS 20 ilvls lower in a 7 key on my BM over my outlaw….. yeah outlaws cooked

[orchid gale]

Well we had one of the best iterations of Outlaw the season before that