Very funny how that happens
#outlaw
glass mortar
proven ocean
xd
short heath
Yeah blizz decided we are not even worth a blue post
proven ocean
ye casual, anythng and all the other top rogues saying sub rogue is meta
and its broken
when i said it isn't at all even day 1
ebcause its inflated by raid trinkets
thats why numbers looked crazy high
and now no one is playing it
even kush
glass mortar
I dont know why u think my point was even about all that
glass mortar
What am I out here saying
glass mortar
What do u even think I said
short heath
Sub rogue is not broken. First of all requires more brain capacity to play than 5 fdk
glass mortar
Ross thinks I think sub is good š
glass mortar
Then why are u arguing it with me
proven ocean
me and mortiz know what the older argument was about
glass mortar
When u don't even think i think that?
??
glass mortar
U said rogue mains don't count so all I wanted to know was who you count for deciding a rogue spec is op
proven ocean
if theres a rogue 1 trick
who will never swap to rogue
how is that good data whether rogue is being played or not
XD
because he wont swap anyways
and ur like YEYE HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE
???????
glass mortar
If u thought I was implying it didn't make sense then I'm sorry I was asking u what metric u use
proven ocean
well
glass mortar
And joking about how nobody ever fotm to rogue
hasty warren
proven ocean
thats the metric, all the rogue mains that can swap did swap
and all the rogue mains that never swap wont swap whether rogue does tank dmg or not
so u cant count for those
@lone crow so
glass mortar
Ok thats probably a good metric then
proven ocean
wheres sub meta cuh
dawn talon
and all the rogue mains that never swap wont swap whether rogue does tank dmg or...
idk man i usually never swap but like holy shit man
i can't play this shit
proven ocean
its crazy
how i told the good rogues
that sub will end up like this
and they all attacked me saying XD Its op wtf are u talking about
legit 0 sub rogues rn
short heath
The real question is why we still play this class ?
short heath
I believe we are addicted to pain and suffering
dawn talon
shocking: sub has another tier where it's op when you have heroic gear and need damage at a specific time, useless for the entire tier afterwards without any tuning at all
cinder relic
The real question is why we still play this class ?
Because it's fun
proven ocean
shocking: sub has another tier where it's op when you have heroic gear and need ...
it was exactly the same last season btw
dawn talon
this has never happened before!!
proven ocean
i told them
this happened last season
omg
ppl
have gear
and trinkets
day 1 SUB OP OPOP
then oh
ppl sorted out their cds and got haste items and their caster trinkets and figured out the real meta? sub is gone? why what the helly?
cinder relic
I tell ppl all the time if they don't think rogue is fun go reroll
I still play rogue cuz it's fun
proven ocean
same
cinder relic
If u legit think the class is "pain and suffering" just leave
proven ocean
i never said that
cinder relic
I believe we are addicted to pain and suffering
.
proven ocean
well ig some ppl think it is
i love everything about rogue personally
nothing will change my mind
cinder relic
shocking: sub has another tier where it's op when you have heroic gear and need ...
I mean the spec is gonna be insane in turbo boost too lol
rapid grail
i mean what just happend right now you guys talking about what?
cinder relic
When bosses just die in sub 3 min
random stirrup
eh I donāt know if I super agree with that
You canāt leverage prism anymore in sub 3min fights
losing your best trinket kinda sucks
rapid grail
Sub gonna be op cuz the spec have 1.30 sec cd and 3 min fight will be so op for it?
i dont know cant undrestand the arguing at all xD
cinder relic
You canāt leverage prism anymore in sub 3min fights
I was looking at my damage on fractilus at like, 3:45 and I was like, 700k about everybody else
rapid grail
I was looking at my damage on fractilus at like, 3:45 and I was like, 700k about...
XD
random stirrup
itās been a while since reclear atp but I donāt remember that. Boomie/ele/hunter still ahead at that point no?
cinder relic
Nobody is arguing, just saying sub with turbo boost is gonna feel good because it's opener, and general burst damage was so high
random stirrup
Fdk
cinder relic
itās been a while since reclear atp but I donāt remember that. Boomie/ele/hunter...
I'm out rn but I'll post my log when I get in
rapid grail
Nobody is arguing, just saying sub with turbo boost is gonna feel good because i...
Arcane mage will be so much opier in 3 min fight so they have CDs every 1 min and they have excute window like hell and will also excute boss under 30% so xD
cinder relic
What do you want me to say in response to this
cinder relic
Do you want me to fire off another factoid in response
mighty pivot
another truth nuke?
rapid grail
XD
gaunt phoenix
freakazoid factoid
vivid vessel
when i said it isn't at all even day 1
ok i called that outlaw was dogshit already on ptr and you clowned on me
dont act like you know everything buddy bud
cinder relic
This is at 2 mins cut
gaunt phoenix
aug 
rapid grail
ok i called that outlaw was dogshit already on ptr and you clowned on me
hi how can i color youre plater for weakness buff on adds like you did for assassin
cinder relic
Ofc right off 2nd cds
cinder relic
Sub does a lot of damage in cds
vivid vessel
ah ye
cinder relic
are you making a truth nuke rn
No lol
cinder relic
I'm saying sub does big opener and cd damage so when turbo boost comes out, sub will remain good
rapid grail
I'm saying sub does big opener and cd damage so when turbo boost comes out, sub ...
We need you too say our class is sht and need lot of buffs we are not good at all :((((
proven ocean
dont act like you know everything buddy bud
...fine but sub is also bad..
no cappy cop cop cuh sheesh
gaunt phoenix
damn he kinda clocked you there zero
cinder relic
We need you too say our class is sht and need lot of buffs we are not good at al...
I don't think my posts in a class discord dictate buffs or nerfs
random stirrup
Holy moly bro blasting
gaunt phoenix
ya you have to take to twitter
proven ocean
I don't think my posts in a class discord dictate buffs or nerfs
ret paladin's posts definitely worked if u ask me
XD
rapid grail
I don't think my posts in a class discord dictate buffs or nerfs
i mean other classes did some sht too fix theyre class on discord xD
proven ocean
fuck you zac
rapid grail
and you still telling ppl sub is good
gaunt phoenix
fuck you !
rapid grail
But its not
random stirrup
Ig sub 3mins meant to me like 2:45 tho
proven ocean
fuck you !
ty
lofty pike
Do you think there will be some Tuning Changes in the upcoming weeks? š
vapid sundial
fuck you !
No fuck me
proven ocean
Even at 3:30 I'm topping
ye but that log is auged
cinder relic
random stirrup
Real
mighty pivot
just make sure to stop the count where it's convenient 
proven ocean
i guess auged counts
proven ocean
i mean sub looks crazy with aug there no cappy tho
wait
@cinder relic
XD
we caught ur fake log what the helly
proven ocean
nah zac
vivid vessel
you absolute noob
vivid vessel
random stirrup
Omega cheap boe rings keep getting posted while Iām at work
gaunt phoenix
random stirrup
gg
vapid sundial
cinder relic
Omega cheap boe rings keep getting posted while Iām at work
We haven't started sales yet I only have 5m
random stirrup
Pure vers ring for 3mil then itās 5 by the time Iām home
cinder relic
I don't wanna buy yet
random stirrup
I want it before we kill Dimensius
vapid sundial
Every day
random stirrup
Ideally
vapid sundial
red zinc
D4 skins 
vapid sundial
D4 skins <:MONKA:1226590776008511498>
They have some bangers
red zinc
Still no spell effect skins
gaunt phoenix
truth
cinder relic
But sometimes mid is fun
red zinc
d4 is a good arpg for like
vapid sundial
Banger not mid
cinder relic
I've had more fun with D4 than Poe 2 tbqh
red zinc
A weekend to fill out
gaunt phoenix
I've had more fun with D4 than Poe 2 tbqh
truth
cinder relic
Yeah I grind D4 for a week or two, it's fun
cinder relic
You know the best arpg in the world is owned by tencent
gaunt phoenix
i fear epoch was carried by hype alone
cinder relic
Right
red zinc
everything is owned by tencent
red zinc
pubg publishers just stink
red zinc
season 2 was fub
proven ocean
poe2 is like the opposite of what a arpg should be XD
red zinc
Idk aboht this newest one
proven ocean
legit cooked
vapid sundial
burnt
keen belfry
fr
frail veldt
You know the best arpg in the world is owned by tencent
which one is that
dawn talon
You know the best arpg in the world is owned by tencent
everything in the world is owned by tencent
cinder relic
which one is that
poe
chilly abyss
guys i was using zac plater for assassin and when i sued rup and garrot with assa the eplater color turn into green how can i change that too weeknees buff and rup buff for sub?
cinder relic
everything in the world is owned by tencent
I'm saying that the game being "Owned by china" isn't indicative of its quality
chilly abyss
guys i was using zac plater for assassin and when i sued rup and garrot with as...
thsi is the plater its red with rupture only
dawn talon
i agree with you
chilly abyss
this is the script from plater i did remove garrot and added weekness and still dont work
dawn talon
i think it's actually substantially funnier to be saying that when tencent has had an incredible eye for gaming trends for like, 10-12 years now
chilly abyss
this is the script from plater i did remove garrot and added weekness and still ...
@vivid vessel can help with this pls
chilly abyss
how? and where should i edit that?
chilly abyss
craggy quiver
fyi im not
U tried at all or don't have?
chilly abyss
constructor i think
nothing too edit here i think xD
vivid vessel
init or show
keen belfry
U tried at all or don't have?
I have
chilly abyss
this one i think
vivid vessel
update
vivid vessel
idk if its names or id i dont remember
jade abyss
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fKK6oAUejaUTAsxfW6Q4d2
Is it normal to sim higher with Thief versatility rather than Sleight of Hand ?
for Dslice
Also do we use wound poison somewhere in this season m+?
cinder relic
miniboss at the end of halls
frail veldt
and I always forget to switch back after haha
jade abyss
miniboss at the end of halls
ok if simming higher with thief you would still recommend using it or it's normal that it sims higher?
frail veldt
The APL does not have the SoH cooked updates afaik
slate forge
Soh abuses bugs too that the APL canāt replicate
frail veldt
I mean it doesnt abuse them
they just happen to happen more often with it lol
not like you have to play around it
slate forge
I do š¤
slate forge
Idk solo said itās possibly happening when cto buff gets bumped because of a buff you already have so I try to pay attention to that buff seems to appear red instead of blue when it happens
buoyant cosmos
and I always forget to switch back after haha
Same
slate forge
But a cto buff should be blue not red
frail veldt
the bug ive experienced isnt that
random stirrup
Cto can be red if itās rolled with less than 8s left on container
frail veldt
for me its when I have 1/2 red buffs and I roll and then I have 3/4 red buffs
magically
random stirrup
It isnāt inherently blue
frail veldt
Cto can be red if itās rolled with less than 8s left on container
other way around
its yellow
if its over the container right?
frail veldt
both blue and red are rolled off when you rtb
random stirrup
maybe around same second as container?
I know my ctos are red sometimes p sure
maybe showing my lack of outlaw recently
frail veldt
well red and blue are the same
slate forge
I think itās showing as red when the cto buff was suppose to be a buff you already have and it get rerolled then that means the buff it bumped off is now āyellowā you canāt tell which though
frail veldt
well the bug I get is sometimes I roll and get 1/2 buffs then when I roll again I just dont lose those buffs
doesnt seem at all related to cto
random stirrup
how long until zac figures out that bug
fallen mural
I seem to always roll the exact same thing I locked in with kir when I roll right away
frail veldt
free supercharger
mighty pivot
Idk solo said itās possibly happening when cto buff gets bumped because of a buf...
fairly sure that's not what solo said, but that it might be happening when CTO internally rolls a buff you already have and has to reroll it. But a) that's invisible to the player because it's server side and b) that assumes that's how CTO is implemented
cinder haven
for me its when I have 1/2 red buffs and I roll and then I have 3/4 red buffs
Itās when you roll and have some existing buffs that end up on same duration after the roll as the new buffs
earnest marsh
It might be a dumb question, but I don't lose anything by asking, I shouldn't be using any builder when I'm at 6 combo points, right?
frail veldt
Itās when you roll and have some existing buffs that end up on same duration aft...
hmmm
does that mean you can time it?
cinder haven
Sometimes though you get to keep buffs that you shouldnāt
Itās some race condition
frail veldt
It might be a dumb question, but I don't lose anything by asking, I shouldn't be...
correct, 6 is the finisher condition
5 in subterfuge
earnest marsh
Aye thanks
cinder haven
Not easily reproducable
earnest marsh
5 in subterfuge
Why 5 in subterfuge though?
frail veldt
Why 5 in subterfuge though?
because when we tested, it does mroe damage to do so
that being said there might be updates to that
but as of now the rule is 6 outside subterfuge, 5 inside
mighty pivot
fairly sure that's not what solo said, but that it might be happening when CTO i...
#outlaw message here is exactly what solo said
frail veldt
AAAAAH
that makes sense
cuz then that buff is operating as if its a CtO buff at the same duration as the rtb container
which means it doesnt get rolled off
chilly abyss
@vivid vessel i tryed everythign but it didnt work even tryed chatgpt for codding it againa nd still nope xD i wish you have time and look at it pls
cinder haven
5 in subterfuge
This rule has turned out to be not needed this season, 6+ always is in fact slightly better
frail veldt
This rule has turned out to be not needed this season, 6+ always is in fact slig...
ye I saw that just wasnt sure if that was in the faq
I try to just answer in line with faq so I dont confuse people haha
frail veldt
for those who want the cooks htey can go find them
but also fuck building to 6 always I hate it hahahaha
cinder haven
We think itās because you get higher chance for ace procs
slate forge
https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/316923682607857685/1417555917800...
Thatās what I meant only theory is that the red cto buff that should be blue are the ones being bumped off revealing that you have a possibility of keeping a buff assuming you donāt roll over it and you wouldnāt know which one
opal raven
i didnt got kicked but wouldve been funny
cinder haven
I had someone say something of the lines āwhat class is yellow colourā the other day
Guess we are a dying breed
earnest marsh
because when we tested, it does mroe damage to do so
Roger that! Thanks
ornate heathBOT
Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.
next wedge
!ss
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
frail veldt
!ambush
ornate heathBOT
It is possible to use a macro to cast Ambush during Stealth/Audacity and Sinister Strike otherwise, instead of using the stealth bar:
/cast [known: Hidden Opportunity, bonusbar:1] Ambush ; Sinister Strike
*This is most useful to swap between HO and KIR builds without changing keybinds.
Stance swap delay is, for now, not an issue since we don't want to cast vanish into ambush anymore.
next wedge
pog
frail veldt
Gotchu boo
median nest
Simming my char on 5 targets I should sit on 15 mil with current gear. currently struggling reaching 8 mil
cinder haven
Read #outlaw-faq
latent oak
also ur sim will include all the raidbuffs and lust, unless u specifically simmed for target dummies
- consumables etc
also isnt bladeflurry known to be wierd on target dummies
cinder haven
Think itās working ok in dornogal now
latent oak
ah ok
keen belfry
outlaw being bad in hard keys makes me not want to play m+ guys
what should i do
touch grass?
cinder haven
You can sim what you should do on dummies with the target dummy option on raidbots
Itāll disable raidbuffs and consumables
cinder haven
touch grass?
Poe?
cinder haven
Donāt touch grass, youāll get dirty
keen belfry
is the game released yet
latent oak
new season came out
cinder haven
Poe1
latent oak
but ya poe1 >>>>>poe2
keen belfry
the mine chaters 4-6 were just replaying chap 1-3 it lost me
cinder haven
Not the new crap
vivid vessel
im actually scared of waht happens when they catch up to me on gear
cinder haven
Vurai promised buffs today (again)
latent oak
the mine chaters 4-6 were just replaying chap 1-3 it lost me
they removed the replaying old acts and added some new ones
bright crane
Donāt be scared š
frail veldt
requires too much effort to enjoy for me
I aint got the time for it
Need lower hanging fruit lol
cinder haven
D4 aināt too bad either
frail veldt
Yeah D4 was decent
cinder haven
Doesnāt last very long for me but itās fun while it does
frail veldt
tbh though I liked D3 seasons more than D4
I didnt like how the D4 gearing/builds worked
cinder haven
Think they nerfed loot since I last played
No idea if thatās good or bad really
I guess remix is an option soon
Or maybe vurai is right and we get buffs tonight
keen belfry
phys comp -outlaw +havoc gotta just be really good right? @vivid vessel
is it not just an upgrade, ignoring skill gap
cinder haven
Or hunter?
frail veldt
phys comp -outlaw +havoc gotta just be really good right? <@352916297262301194>
Does havoc benefit?
Triple melee feels kinda not great
keen belfry
everythiung but monk i think
frail veldt
For certain fights
latent oak
havoc would benefit from monk buff
i think
its damage would be buffed by that instead of chaos brand
keen belfry
so they benefit from all phys buffs as well?
latent oak
think so
latent oak
without vs with mystic touch
cinder haven
Yeah not huge really
pure folio
but BL4 so far is p fun
very fun!
cinder haven
? Why would it replace
latent oak
bc chaos damage wont get boosted by the magic damage and the phys damage raid buffs
it chooses the best one to run against
cinder haven
I see
random stirrup
should note that mystic touch disproportionately benefits havocs funnel
latent oak
same with other multitype spells
random stirrup
since its mostly phys based
vivid vessel
phys comp -outlaw +havoc gotta just be really good right? <@352916297262301194>
i cant think of a worse dps than outlaw
so idk
yes
like put anything in place of the outlaw in our comp
and its way better i think
vivid vessel
y
median nest
but ya poe1 >>>>>poe2
this is so true
Got over 10k h in poe 1 and probably the same amout as healer in wow. first time trying melee dps
lime lake
Gangplank passive pog
stable pivot
I can't wait for tonight's monstrous tuning <:garf_sit:1334889429449314456>
Is there actually tuning tonight?
cinder haven
probably not
muted crest
Pirates day so outlaw tune hopium real
stable pivot
Didn't think there would be š
timid portal
watafak
granite merlin
Just give us the ability to call in cannon fire for no reason.
indigo token
inland acorn
granite merlin
watafak
lol the guy I group with to do push keys wonāt invite me unless I am playing outlaw cause he says it stresses the healers out way less and and with a little less dps heās fine with that.
inland acorn
U ok blud?
calm oriole
getting back into outlaw, do we macro ghostly strike to something like BTE to reduce like all these buttons to press? for KiR build
tight egret
!macro
ornate heathBOT
Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.
tight egret
Only time I have GS macroed is for the ST fatebound cheese
calm oriole
hmm ok interesting, its on the GCD tho so i feel like macroing it is ehh
vivid vessel
gs isnt on the gcd
lucid sandal
@vivid vessel You play with cudgel still or?
I have double 723 and my cudgel is 678
not sure if worth
cold jewel
@fathom bramble gz on dimmy
timid portal
I have double 723 and my cudgel is 678
i think cudgel was like 2% increase on rly big pulls
misty hawk
gs isnt on the gcd
I always use it on the monster with the most HP, fuck the priority
snow rain
don't know what i should feel about this..
frail veldt
rofl
I mean I tell people I dont need restealth
as long as you have something to hit its fine
frail veldt
don't know what i should feel about this..
is he referring to the nightfall cudgel?
hardy thicket
i mean can you blame him
Outlaw being the most dependent spec on opening from stealth makes zero fucking sense
yet here we are
snow rain
yes. it was ridiculous..
vivid vessel
I do keys where i dont restealth a single time
frail veldt
same its honestly great
I did a key with MM/WW and the war literally just pulled at 7/8 targets the wholee time perma combat
frank bane
frail veldt
the MM gapped me but we all did like 10mil overall so it was great
the war tank was duo with the MM so he was def pulling around his cds/cap
but it was super smooth
all the pulls were so easy
and MM carried ST dam on bosses
hardy thicket
funny how he thinsk sub needs restealths to function
hardy thicket
I mean they are american
vivid vessel
do they forget the rest of the world on purpose
dawn talon
are they stupid
because nobody here gives a fuck about world ranking
until you're wr25
vivid vessel
what
vivid vessel
why
hardy thicket
LOL
dawn talon
and why would US ranking
idk, just how it's been as long as ive played wow
dawn talon
and the oce guilds say they're oce 4 when it's like
world rank 100 trillion
just how it is
vivid vessel
ok well
europe people
we arent delusional ye
we say we are world xx
instead of acting stupid
stupid americans !
hardy thicket
I mean its pretty logical or
dawn talon
realistically it's probably just that
na and eu didn't communicate much even abt the race
hardy thicket
EU knows that all that matters is WR
dawn talon
until like mop
vivid vessel
EU knows that all that matters is WR
and NA still think they are the center of the world
hardy thicket
Then again i guess
nah nvm
no justification
Its like you could be #1 US guild but if that meant you were WR250 overall it means shit
lol
dawn talon
until like mop
like there would be times i didn't even know an eu guild killed the boss
until
2 entire weeks later
lol
vivid vessel
me when liquid loses world first so they put US #1 in bio
glass mortar
Blizzard is in us therefore only us ranks matter zac
š
FIRST TO THE MOON FIRST TO GHUUN
hardy thicket
like there would be times i didn't even know an eu guild killed the boss
Tbf there has not been an american guild even close to WR before Limit no? or am I trolling
WF* I mean
dawn talon
Tbf there has not been an american guild even close to WR before Limit no? or am...
from 2005 onward no
hardy thicket
so then I guess the whole "#25 rank US" kinda made sense from that view
dawn talon
us1 was like world20 sometimes
or worse
and na/eu didn't share strats w/ eachother or compare gameplay or anything
it makes complete sense that people cared about their regional ranking more than world ranking when there were 15 eu guilds comparing strats w eachother after worldfirst and na was still blind progging 3 bosses behind LOL
vivid vessel
idk
to me its as silly
as people
that are like
yo im r1 realm
bitch
your realm has 2 people in it
mighty pivot
hey guys I'm r1 in my house
dawn talon
im younger than zac lol
hardy thicket
im top RIO in my family
vivid vessel
im r1 french outlaw
proven ocean
guys
proven ocean
is it fried
proven ocean
zac stfu
red zinc
it literally is
proven ocean
no cappy
vivid vessel
it litterlay isnt
keen belfry
guys im bored
dawn talon
is dying light new game good
it's aight
proven ocean
gnawa
vivid vessel
im also bored
keen belfry
i dont want to key as law
vivid vessel
wanna do keys wang ?
keen belfry
im having more fun doing 12s as feral rn
proven ocean
i want something good
red zinc
wanna do keys wang ?
get me in a key unc
keen belfry
wanna do keys wang ?
yeah
keen belfry
should i move
vivid vessel
bro
proven ocean
no
vivid vessel
imagine if you could take a portal
keen belfry
13 halls?
vivid vessel
to the eu server for a bit ..
proven ocean
we already have gnawa here
vivid vessel
would go crazy no
dawn talon
should i move
go eu fast
keen belfry
move to netherlands and we create outlaw gaming house
amsterdam wants me back no cap
dawn talon
we can be annoying about things that are different
from in the us
like every american who moves to eu
vivid vessel
ur on eu already
for na people cuh
dawn talon
for some reason
proven ocean
for na people cuh
..
red zinc
tomdelvis better
proven ocean
wtf
vivid vessel
for tww splits
proven ocean
nice name
vivid vessel
this is 4th
vivid vessel
midnight sorry
red zinc
midnight
proven ocean
@dawn talon amy gamers i should play??
red zinc
could be the week after that too though!! !
proven ocean
!!
keen belfry
I would gap you
you wouldnt gap my feral
vivid vessel
thanks
i would
my sub rogue goes crazy
I gap every key
you arent even gapping ytour keys ??
actual nob 
keen belfry
zac my guild didnt give me mythic forge or prism last night
dawn talon
<@723418639646195803> amy gamers i should play??
i haven't played anything good lately tbh
vivid vessel
zac my guild didnt give me mythic forge or prism last night
skill issue
show gear awng
keen belfry
you arent even gapping ytour keys ??
you gapped tinygun and dhonsi
vivid vessel
dawn talon
im too busy playing tft
proven ocean
o
vivid vessel
show gear wang
dawn talon
and complaining that it sucks
proven ocean
jasterpigs
keen belfry
proven ocean
wtf
dawn talon
and then playing more of it
vivid vessel
??
proven ocean
gnawagnawangwa
vivid vessel
your main almost as geared as myu alt bro
proven ocean
LOLOLOL
keen belfry
yeah its cooked
keen belfry
my last 2 vaults:
dagger heroic prism
proven ocean
red zinc
awangawangawangawangawangawangawangawang
keen belfry
i need
keen belfry
mor egear
red zinc
keen belfry
red zinc
šļø
vivid vessel
how are you 708 wang
my alt is 710
and i have like
800 guilded
to spend
šļø
so bad
vivid vessel
keen belfry
wtf man
lucid sandal
Zacrobleu so goated mon ami
vivid vessel
i know ..
keen belfry
who wants to invite my mage to a key
dawn talon
i have so much mythslop in my bags bro i need cata charges !!!
keen belfry
vivid vessel
put on some pants ..
stuck patrol
vivid vessel
šļø
vivid vessel
??
keen belfry
bite
vivid vessel
??
stuck patrol
i show cock
Trust me, your cock is not as magical as you think it is
keen belfry
i like to pretend
stuck patrol
Time for me to race change to draenei, download total RP and put in my profile that I have a futa cock
random stirrup
713? my main is 730 with 600 gilded left to spend
mighty pivot
the best part with the new masks is that if you stealth your face shows for some reason
quaint mauve
man i hate that dwarf is so hard meta rn
vivid vessel
like big one
quaint mauve
what mechanics can u meld atm
frank finch
and then we gointo turbo boost yioked the fuck up
stuck sparrow
Meld is basically a poverty vanish
quaint mauve
Ghost on 3rd boss hoa
oh bless
i can make it some elses problem even with vanish down
vivid vessel
ye do not do that
quaint mauve
and it went to the hunter in narnia
vivid vessel
when you vanish the mob will melee people that are close
quaint mauve
and we wiped
quaint mauve
when you vanish the mob will melee people that are close
????????
quaint mauve
holy shit
quaint mauve
so like if necessary i have to drop adr for the team š
vivid vessel
do not vanish
quaint mauve
will keep your wise words in mind zac
mighty pivot
I had that happen when my vanish just aligned perfectly with getting fixated šļø
I did not say anything in chat, they thought it was a bug
frail veldt
thats litteraly a wipe btw
Looooool
I've def done it a lot
Maybe key too low
Or it's just hitting the tank or no ones nearby when I do it
glass mortar
so like if necessary i have to drop adr for the team š
get gud tanks
i have never had to vanish that thing idk
tank should always be holding boss semi close to a lantern
for if it targets melee
and u should position so u dont spawn puddles covering the whole lantern
or dodge aoes w/e
i dont even know whats going on in that boss tbh it haslike 2 mechanics i just sit behind a lantern and tunnel boss whole fight
jolly totem
what is the go to for weapons, i see some running double sword and some running sword dagger
glass mortar
oh dagger is technically bis by an absurdly small margin
people go with what was convienent
if u crafted a weapon w1 and got a weapon w2 then they probably have a crafted oh
if they crafted for sub/sin then they probably have a dagger oh
strong cargo
!oh
ornate heathBOT
A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more 
Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, 
Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.
glass mortar
if ur using extra crafts to upgrade ur oh from a herioc track one now (which is very minor) then theres no reason to not do a dagger
gray lichen
!spreadsheet
ornate heathBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
glass mortar
it can be used for other specs and its slightly better then a 720 crafted oh
quaint mauve
i have never had to vanish that thing idk
well vanishing for yk my rotation
quaint mauve
I did not say anything in chat, they thought it was a bug <:Okay:104315308669011...
iāve done the same exact thing
so they blame blizzard and not me
frail veldt
do that in a high key
So do you just rely on the tank placing boss near a lantern and be careful not to vanish
vivid vessel
y
frail veldt
tank should always be holding boss semi close to a lantern
Yeah but sometimes during circles positioning can get wack
glass mortar
idk
u got like 270 degrees around the boss that melee can move thru baiting puddles and thats a long time to have to get ur ghost thru it
u dont need to move immediatly to dodge them
maybe ive just gotten lucky timings idk if ive ever had downtime on this boss
i have also only done 5 or 6 HoAs tho
its not a key i enjoy because 90% of the pugs i do trying to push rating do the +19 pull of 20 caster guys and if we wipe on it i look like im trolling
so u usually just get kicked
xd
opal raven
!prekey
ornate heathBOT
Pre-key fuckery
RTB TWICE some time before entering dungeon to get 4 Supercharger stacks. These stacks don't have a duration.- Just before key placement use
AR into 
KS to get 
Loaded Dice and 2 free Unseen Blade procs. - KS will consume one stack of Supercharger but the 3rd+4th stack are removed when the key starts anyway.
- During the bubble, DO NOT RTB or recast AR as you will lose the CPs and Supercharger stacks when the bubble ends.
- After the bubble drops use RTB again (now back at 4 stacks of Supercharger).
- Before entering the first pack
BF into 
Stealth. - Open onto the pack with AR into
BtE.
glass mortar
me when u wipe on the first pull of the dungeon so ur at 13m dps maybe and the other two dps are pushing 30
junior coral
when you guys sim gear to see what to upgrade etc, do you use all the raid buffs to just see vaule changes? but i feel like that changs weight of stats so is it best to just do no buffs? For M+ btw
i don't run with set comp enough to set it around that
jolly totem
thanks for the info all
fathom bramble
<@101843879791177728> gz on dimmy
Free from sub now
junior coral
thanks for the info all
bruh, the amount you can learn from just skimming through discord is insane, love this place
fathom bramble
Kind of an evil fight
fathom bramble
outlaw on dimmy next reset
We are only playing 1 day next reset and planning for 7/8
vivid vessel
ah i see
fathom bramble
So probably no dimmy kill
vivid vessel
I wanna try it
if my raid leader allows me
first outlaw kill
is outlaw the only spec that hasnt killed dimmy
mabye survival
arms aswell
but that doesnt count
arms players just swap fury anyway
its like assa/sub players
tender wedge
buy a carry as outlaw, drag the overall raid performance down from 0% parse on dimmy, spec gets buffed, profit???
stiff vector
gz on dimmy and getting out of sub prison lok
I should be there myself in like a week 
worldly sinew
13 hoa Brother im trying here. Glad Warrior buff is paying off
spare dome
!wa
ornate heathBOT
Class packs:
worldly sinew
Its either gonna go REALLY REALLY WELL or really really not. No in between for Rags.
quaint mauve
wiped on pull one
my tank
pulled
from the stairs
every attendant
and then the mini boss
worldly sinew
quaint mauve
https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-gif-13730412631668536030
did he call me something
worldly sinew
[Party] [BƔro-Quel'Thalas]: Well, not everyone from Area 52 is good.
[Party] [Ibyessa]: Yeah, Quel'Thalas.
[Party] [Ibyessa]: lmao.
According to Translator.
quaint mauve
??????????
tender wedge
he called you "son", very condescending
worldly sinew
tank mental, cant be helped
Pulled too much? Nah
That would be my fault, and I don't like that.
tender wedge
good, no toads lost in area 52 son, good
quaint mauve
im a lost toad
tender wedge
this is outlaw chat, we're all lost toads š
crisp elm
glass mortar
it is bad yes
mighty pivot
just don't do your rotation good design
red stratus
wintry solar
i was joking <:garf:1320173032743899157>
quaint mauve
by allowing ur health to get down to 0 if i had to gues
but how is that allowed
what does the second boss even do
other than just sit there
and wait to die
hearty fulcrum
what does the second boss even do
Kill your group apparently
haughty wigeon
what does the second boss even do
people panic wityh circles
stiff vector
any1 have a weak aura for last boss ara kara singularity sicne the changed the way it works? Apparently my old WA timer isnt good anymore
this is for hunter disengage btw not grappling hook, grapple is ez
potent chasm
welp, was not expecting a that roar
stiff vector
ok think I found one 
frail veldt
any1 have a weak aura for last boss ara kara singularity sicne the changed the w...
Oh really? When did they change it
I'm using the same one still
quaint mauve
Oh really? When did they change it
bro i swear i have a bounty on me in warrior discord
only explanation
torpid heath
any1 has monk discord?
torpid heath
ty boss
quaint mauve
any1 has monk discord?
wow pocoā¦ leaving us huh
quaint mauve
outlaw dmg is sad and i dont want to be sad
so youāre gonna play ww
torpid heath
as an alt
quaint mauve
ima pre order midnight soon
idk what ima boost
pala sham, mage, or another rogue
i never leveled any of the 3
torpid heath
mage op
bright crane
Why would you boost another rogue
torpid heath
split ?
quaint mauve
Why would you boost another rogue
dwarf with a cool name
torpid heath
imagine playing rogue without being a Night elf
quaint mauve
bc i canāt pvp on current rogue
quaint mauve
imagine playing rogue without being a Night elf
i kinda regret it but all my characters r nelf except my priest so it felt weird
i wanted some variety
torpid heath
quaint mauve
priest is undead bc itās alright in pvp
i really like human animations
on my rogue
torpid heath
im nelf on rogue but everything else is dwarf
hybrid crown
I just did 11 mil in a priory šŖ
quaint mauve
im nelf on rogue but everything else is dwarf
dwarf is just so good this season
quaint mauve
idr care abt chaining
i did when i first started ol
but i got taken on a 5 minute chain pull today in ara
torpid heath
think about that free subterfuge
torpid heath
yeah for adr and buffs its nice
wintry solar
Wish we'd hear about alpha