#outlaw
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Yeah Ive been noticing he has way less BF damage instances
so I think hes not standing in as good of positioning for that
making concerted efforts on where you stand is often missed
thankfully usually you are just within range of 8 targets
good to know ty tobfon
yeah thats pretty substantial
would u say this is skill gap guys
makes sense
maybe you dont need to feint 81 times in a 10
last season fucked my feint usage
I p much feint whenever im over 80% energy and the buff is down
i just press feint so often cause i ppressed it with ks
could be hurting his cpm
its now a rotational ability
I feint and vial almost every ks
@frail veldt
he still got you on the first pull or three
yeah honestly I low rolled p hard at the start there
I remember the key it was tilting
we recovered though
but ya you are couping more
does HO press ps way more than kir
Yes
Kir can press ps even less than current apl probably
im just looking at a HO player vs a KIR player in a key log rn
Can hoard fth a bit for subt etc
HO player has like 120 more ps casts than KIR
well they are 2fth
They don’t play deft
does this KIR players name rhyme with gang?
yes wtf
and this ho player
go on
loch nessa monster
hahahahhahah
close yes
hmmmmm
you all are good at this
im still offended you guys voted for an HO player to win a dps race
@gaunt phoenix you voted
I never voted
But was there an actual race?
we did a double outlaw key like 2 weeks ago
like no cap
the numbers i see on streams and in wcl, something very unfortunate would have to happen to lose
We want blood
you could choke
its entirely possible
Buffs soon
pressure makes diamonds mewo
and im shining rn
the last time i was nervous was sophomore year of hs when we played crosstown rival in my first varsity game
if you care
actually senior year of college i needed a 83% on my final to pass class (one of my tests got counted as a 0 lets not ask why)
that was nerve wrecking
When is it time to start pressing f5 on wowhead?
id prefer to be firedup
actual alt f4
mewo
dmg to neophytes on aemya pull
so our aoe is bad surely i blasted ameya right?
I think it’s about 93% chance that outlaw is untouched even if they do change something today
aemya dmg
I wasnt saying our aoe should be nerfed
im saying blizz probably would
See we are not pad spec
nor ethical
we dont care about your rules
What's the best spec for each boss?
So you're telling me there's a chance
big chance yes, for mage buffs

400% popo buff
I'll take it
ok can someone explain to me what these numbers mean on hardmode listings
is it an abacus thing or what
hes padding and making us look better than we are
I think they're just trying to make their listing visible to more people
aaaaaaaaaa
understood
thanks
makes sense
yeah just search keywords
It's annoying tho
There is an internal Blizzard memo stating outlaw buffs will not occur until Zac retires. I have my sources.
So I’m having troubles keeping ad rush uptime high
Do yall save your vanishes for as long as possible?
Or just never let it hit 2
And always keep one on deck in case you need to go stealth
Or burn it if ad rush cd is still too long?
Lol there are a billion nuances I haven’t figured out 😄 and it seems like if I do all the coup, killing spree prios I fall behind on spending
Like sometimes it feels like you have to break prio to go into a subterfuge window right?
try to not let it hit 2 and especially try to not let adrenaline rush fall off
if you're going to lose adr, vanish to save it
guys i cant get into a 14
what the fuck
i have 1 left for resi
whats going on
i might just go sub to finish it XD
outlaw bad
id expect atleast the assa rogue
to accept me
so we go rogue friend key
but no
not even he wants me
🙁
but naowh put it onto his tier list so we just need to spread that info (after blizz decides on tuning)
chill on that friend
id rather suffer
and get buffed
lol I’m with a group of guys who when I switched sub to do more dmg wouldn’t let me back into 14s until I went back to outlaw rogue cause tank played outlaw in shadowlands and loves the class too much to let me swap lol
than make blizz think we are good
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/tier-lists/dps-rankings-mythic-plus honestly sin rogue needs buff, just look at these rankings
yeah that's why we wait until patch notes
and only then spread misinformation
So now I do 13s and 14s and do like 5.8-6 million dmg and feel bad about performance but tank is happy I guess

Rogue specs don't pair that well together imo
Outlaws st isn't good enough to carry assa through bosses
You can pump those numbers up though
not even outlaws invite outlaws, i always try to friend key in weeklies when i see one and i always get declined
Fuck an outlaw
I am trying. I was going to try to spend like 2 to three hours on dummies this weekend or maybe play HO
This spec is amazing for my ADHD though
Keeps me engaged
that seems to be the prevailing mindset in this game yes
How often do you guys cheap shot in subterfuge windows in m+? Do you use it as a kick when up or just send dmg?
i almost never press it 🙂
Cheap shot is pure emergency 'we're about to wipe' type shit
It feels like a real boner killer to the rotation and engine whe I use it
Same with kidney
Woah that’s the greatest gif man has ever created
i fallened

WTF IS THIS SPEC
EVEN THIS COULD HAPPEN, OUTLAW NEED THIS
seriously i had never see something like this
Hey, can anyone help me with my log review? I opened one yesterday, but I don't know if I did it right
are you guys mentally ready for tonight's tuning? 
Bacfambo is back
"No tuning is planned for the week of September 16th."
i think its outlover

This is just the traditional BM hunter going bonkers at the end of every xpac, it’s happened every time since BFA (and arguably legion)
i want outlaw to have uncap so we can do same dmg for sure
Ascended*
Bigger issues than target cap but that would be nice for sure
I use it when I would want to kidney shot. Instead I’ll cheap shot. Only to control mobs for example on first pull ara. If you’re in a premade group it is more than likely not needed but in pugs where kicks overlap. I for sure use it.
2-3 hours it should be here
“We have decided to nerf outlaws overall damage by 3% as they are leading the pack in mythic manaforge omega” (they will not disclose that it is only soul hunters)
im waiting for buffs even though ive been pulled into tanking for my group this season
(tbf i did volunteer knowing outlaw wasnt in a great place)
If we get something tonight you all owe me a kiss
If we don’t
Then
Nothing happens !
that's not a fair trade
can i still give u a kiss
No
I only want a kiss if I did good
I don’t take rewards without working for them
I can see a thread with your log, just not a lot of people are reviewing lately. It doesn't help that reading outlaw logs suck
that looks like mmo champion
going back to combat
idk just screenshotted from a yt video talking about tinker in last titan
XD
welp my mythic team just imploded 😭
what boss nuked the guild
plexus
plz be the cannon before araz
I swear when you play fatebound in keys you realize how much you take 1h tricks for granted
I’ll be here all week folks
idk i feel like u have tricks for every pull with fb
it only lasts 5 seconds tho is the annoying part
I hit mobs while tank is gathering
padding all the way
thats about how long our busrt last
like first pull priory
dang so you're saying we go hard for 5 sec then gas out?
prolly less
Gunslinger is from final fantasy lol
how many CBs should i be slamming BtEs with during my vanish windows?
I usually send it with 4-5+ CBs but some sims I see send it 5-6 times in a row and I assume its not just lucky procs
oh...CPs
Combo Boints
Combo 🅱️oints
6/7 out
Only 2 mmo’s exist 😉
the others are SMO's?
this just popped up on my youtube feed
what a time to be alive
why is he panda btw
that cp gen is way too slow for my taste

i dont wanna go back to that
We are one of the most elite exclusive spec. Can play by invitations only
addons they telling what he has to doe ... l2p without fucking hacker addons
it feels so good to see aug dead tho
I want to make a bdk outlaw fire mage Aug and holy priest group. Call it the unpopular ones
the first team to not time a 10
I bet that comp can time 14’s 🕹️
addons they telling what he has to doe ... l2p without fucking hacker addons
no way fire is that low
it’s like actually op rn… im ngl
like it’s some
secret shit
but i ran with one yesterday and we flew threw the 2 15s i timed
im never gonna get into a boosting group huh
100 messages the second it got posted
am I greedy for cloaking spark on last boss flood for better uptime?
you re beautiful
no
cloak is an offensive cd
Only if you later died due to no defensive
not like you can just press feint on everything
Cloak is a DPS cool down
mewo's hands are a dps cool down
feint + evasion stack is already basically the closest thing you're getting to god mode that isn't an immunity
yes yes we've established that
Any other use is just covering up misplay
ty brothers, good talk
Evasion on physical ability circles also for higher uptime. All the uptime
Rogue Defensive Spreadsheet: > Click to open <
there's not that many this season though
could i send something
whirling thing in streets, brutal smash in psf
tbh i just had the worst feeling halls ever, i felt like i had no adr at all
and im at 90%
pog
am i the only one that thinks outlaw shouldnt have poisons?
it doesnt suit the spec imo idk
Bleeds would fit way better
yeah
@gaunt phoenix warriors can kick and stun during their channeling ability bladestorm
its an actual channel
We're still cutting them with our swords
but not daggers
its not making sense poisonos sword its weird xd
ye
thats crazy no ?
AHAHAHAH
we are just getting trolled
Blizz just want to make our life so much harder
They do asume that we have brains unlike warriors XD
outlaws should be renamed to the otherwise lawful, and hit people with the force of friendship
then introduce the same issues
on other specs
then they do that
over and over
never learning
these guys are fucking amateurs
its crazy
Maybe we could have been listen if Realz was still here XD
or they get laid off every 2 years so they never learn i guess idk
bladestorm is shorter than ks btw
its kinda weird like how they manage to punch someone while spinning
nothing is as long as ks

lol
:)
scurvy 
how old was it lol
i remember they indruduce KS in wotlk i guess
i work with john blizzard he says big changes comin don’t worry
Nah Bruning Crusade ^^
SHEEEESH i havent played rogue in classic bc sadly
didnt know that lol
OKAAAY GUUUUYS
I play my rogue since Vanilla ^^'
nah im just a kid
like wotlk is older than me
XD
tf
it’s cuz warriors have no other util
what are u
2009?
Human
tomorrow i’m tellin blizzard to launch em tomorrow
they aint workin on saturday
My uncle Trevor Blizzard said he was putting in extra time this weekend
There was a new build but nothing happened
joe blizzard lettin me try all the changes wow
they uncapped outlaw
want me to stream it?
@cinder haven
u now are forced to play fate bound and spend a gold every time u flip a coin
this mans bait is putting up tony snell numbers
how does one go 0 for 23 on funny messages

They will update outlaw 1 week before outlaw gets a rework to something worse haha
1 week to enjoy
are they 0-23 or are they funny messages 🧐
5% buff live
if only if only
we need to incinerate these hunters man
🤤
did druid mistakenly press moonfire?
yeah maybe its the problem
i got lily for sub tho
it looks goofy xd
lets go
nah bro u dont understand what he put me through
ive never cycled defensives better in my life
NOW youre ready to push higher
😄
outlaw damage is 50% blade flurry is this spec ez or wat
I think its p sick
very reaper esque from OW
looks better than randomly teleporting around
just looking like youre lagging
god the old KS was fucking cringe
so just trying to get a hold of min maxing, if i have ghostly strike but NO vanish, do i hold for vanish or just send? is there a "<" or ">" number of seconds i would go by i.e. if vanish has less than 20 seconds hold GS?
it's looking like you can hold gs for at most like 10 seconds
Is it a big dps loss if i dont hold ? And just send GS
solo do i want to be sending bte after a vanish - gs / ar - gs . or should i let it breath b4 i send. maybe im bugging but i feel like coins dont send sometimes
for vanish - gs, it's fine
for vanish - ar - gs, you need to let it breath
Or bte will bug it
i knew it
in the bad kind of bug
It means do not send AR GS BTE all at the same time
no you can send it as the next global
but not at the very same time
AR GS - pause - bte
i see
next global not same global
im slow enough that i do not need to worry
Shit, I've been doing that a bit I think
is it bad to send Vanish - GS if im at max combo points?
no its fine
bet bet
theres no rng in coin amount over a 5 min patchwerk right?
but AR GS at low cps
bet bet
yes there is
how
maybe im not sure what you're asking
hands of fate damage is Tails
Heads is just a buff
and lucky coin
yes
wtf
htis skenga frac log still haunts me idk
253 hands of fate
how
iv done 5 min on dummies with perma buffs perfect rotation and never come close
he did stealth AR GS 13 times
oh no i summoned him
how does that line up that many times
this was this week on heroic, got 5/5 instead of 6/6 on pull noticed this happens sometimes if ive unstealthed and restealthed before pull hahaha dmg was in the bin
hes playing MM
everyone knows BM is the top dog rn
wonder if some people have accidentally triggered the bug
that shorten adr cd
i do it all the time on assa
wat
it gotta be kinda insane if you trigger it on outlaw no ?
well you can have a bug wehre your lucky coin double or smth idk
what does this mean
like on assa it does weird things
wehre kb becomes some sort of
30s cd
and dm like
1min something idk
weird ass

what boosting group is this? Im in The Collective, but the other ones I used in DF stopped doing NA boosts unfortunately
he had like 200 finishers (100 tails average), 13 stealth AR GS (78 tails), 9 stealth GS (27 tails), 8 regular GS (16 tails), 2 regular AR (4 tails), 22 lucky coins
that's 247, so a bit higher with some tails luck
yeah Idk this week its felt like my heads/tails RNG has looked like this(complete dogshit) far more often than it has in the past, suddenly it just feels common that I have more heads than tails(sometime sby a lot)
i had to take the sub pill anyway for last 2 bosses so no reclear for a bit
13 stealth AR GS is also not expected
how do you mean
like sim average would be lower than that
but if you have TB the entire pull and bend the rules a little bit to align them better
im playing Outlaw on Nexus Prince(at least for now, definitely could change as we prog the fight), not even going to attempt Dimmy though, just gonna play sub from the start.
can happen i guess
i tried outlaw at first but i just felt like i was doing more playing sub
!sndbug
There is once again a bug that lets you spam
Slice and Dice during downtime for CDR. It works by causing SnD to refund CPs as if it benefits from Supercharger.
To activate the bug have to consume Supercharger once normally with RTB > finisher, and then SnD will bug out until your next damaging finisher, so you can spam a cancelaura macro while it is bugged. From 1CP, SnD will have an 80% chance to refund CPs so you can't spam it forever. To activate it between pulls, you have to delay RTB until towards the end of the pack. This can mean that trying to activate the bug can cost you more dps than it's worth.
The bug is not a secret to 11 million overalls, it can mostly just help you get AR back through periods of forced downtime.
/cast Slice and Dice```
almost 9% 
look at zacs
this is horizon
can send invite if u want
very active
wait I can't find that WA I need those statistics on my screen so I can cope my group into believing I'm unlucky
will this bug not die or what?
Never
I swear it was supposed to be fixed, or is it still the same one from a while back
or did they fix it then recreate it
it's different
is dawnbreaker the worse dungeon ever made or what
it rose from the dead
My AR watching me flying between two phase
i dont even care about that
its just
so many bugs
and dogshit design
everywehre
its legit the worse dungeon i ever played idk
first boss is ??
It's what a dungeon would look like when blizz tries hard to drop your AR
is anyone even using the trinket

which was like the only reason it was voted for
🙂 voted for
legit we fucking just voted back dungeons that had trinkets
is in stairs
@vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel @vivid vessel
then the flying is bugged
you go trough boats
then the aoes down are bugged
then everything is bugged
then last boss is shit
every boss is shit
everything is bugged on boats
yeah its so bugged
what
is it a compilation of all the bugs
or what
hi solo
Basically blizz saying fuck outlaw

I think people either voted for the easy dungeons or the ones with good trinkets
We all love blizz here, right? Right?
SORRY YOU HATE EVERYTHING , ZAC
bro they even added a baguette dagger model for you
they voted arakara not realizing the trinket now sucks balls and the dungeon is annoying to deal with
smh zac
not for swords
so its basicvally useless
dw like 5/6 tiers you're holding an OH dagger anyway
This might be my least favorite tbh
i play douible sword
basically ebvery season
when i have double sword
i dont even care if its a 0.2% dps loss
like who cares
about 0.2%
aesthetics or we talking cudgel nonsense
when you can have a better mog
Double sword mog is important
respect but you'll still have a dagger for like early parts of season cus craft for raid
until you get a 2nd myth OL wep
i didnt craft any wepaon this season
unless you actually all in, but most don't
thoughts?
I love you zac tmog King I'm gonna change my myth dagger to veteran dagger, tbf tmog is like 20% dps anyway
why not a sword? you dgaf about early power since it's not push season til turboboost?
i play sub
or did you get spooned myth weps super early
in raid
so i just get daggers
i got a dagger week one
then i week 2 i got an outlaw weapon
cause i wanted to play outlaw on soul jhunter
so they gave me a weapon
then week 3 i got antoher dagger to kill dimencock
perfect 
then week 4 he got a hunter weapon
tbh the wep from soulbinder is giga uncontested with enh being missing
I wish I had the patience to mythic raid
plot twist: Zac got giga juiced with loot every week
i didnyt get juiced at all
but
the only melee players
you have rn
is an havoc
zac is getting loot in exchange for naughty pics
If Zac swaps Assa for keys we will get Outlaw buffs confirmed
i didnt not on prog
ye i got super lucky with vault tho
and then
no one is leather in raid
and no one is on zenith either
only guy on zenith is 2 healer and our dps drake
wait, you killed dimmy already?

wp
you get given the antenna or vault it?
vaulkt
luckerdog
I have 2 alts with myth antenna, not main tho 🙂
not got even a normal one
not even that spooned
thing is you guys just had more bosses on farm much earlier
tazavesh slots
ahh
i got mythic boots aswell for free upgrades
random item no one ever need
so ye idk
in the end my upgrades were just insanely efficient cause i only upgraded 717 and 714 items basically
thats why
raid was just so op this tier
idk
Raid vault is insane op now
imagine putting 3 pairs of boots in this raid 
Would rather die than take a m+ vault piece
ye right g
ye idk
blizzard are trolls
legit
at least they removed cloacks
but like
waht the hell
still the emo hunter boots are so much better they destroy even higher ilvl boots
yeah soulhunter boots default 714 on myth
so you really only save 704 to 710 hc boot crests
and like
i havent recleared
but again
my items
are 0 contested
like soul hunter boots?
there is whta
a dh
do you have
and a boomie
warrior tank
only zenith dps ia dragon
i think like
the neck is not really contested either
boots are free
the trinket from soul hunter
as far as i know
its only havoic
that uses it
and he has it on mythic i think arleady
when that dropped for us I was the only person that even wanted it
ngl I want the boots off of Frac from every difficulty, some fire transmog 
the bracers making your hands glow are cool too
Yeah from demi
The DH bracers from the last boss is top tier mog
no one wanted them
they make your hands glow different colors
they'll complain a ton about this third spec
100
HM
WTF
I cant do it dude ..
I must
buy
the full vers one ..
orrr
this shit litteraly free tho
@proven ocean
what do i do
..
I kind of need to buy the haste/vers one with my gear setup rn
but I want full versa one
ilevel vs the one from gambit?
you need 2k of the other stat
to be the most stated one
toward vers
or only vers
i need only vers ..
bro ..

its wee k2
no buts..
I could be full bis this week bro ..
..
how about u be biser than the bis
and u wait for full vers
can we incinerate zac man
bozo
ok ..
i will wait ..
but imagine tho
full bis week 5 like
..
ok tell you waht
if i get all the items from raid
so like 3 items that are free
i buy the ring
im forced to
zac
they posted hotfixes
just buy it and boost later
thats what i did anyway
i paid 15m+ gold
last season
and didnt care
was worth
finally max delve rank 
ye they forgot about class tuning tho
big ol nothing burger
pizza
guys
doint guys me
We are targetting the wrong people
tobfon needs to give us buffs
he needs to cook harder


5% aura buff in apl

fatebound shit
is so fake
in keys
@gaunt phoenix
thoughts?
have you tried fb in keys
i hate it
fatebound shit
is so fake
in keys
@solo
thoughts?
have you tried fb in keys
i hate it
not much
(i didnt try fb yet)
Resolved an issue where Guise of the Phase Diver could unintentionally kill you when used on Dimensius. HUGE
SO THATS WHAT WAS KILLING ME ON DIMMY PORTAL
a fucking toy 
not alone the fact i did less overall
and then i did the same boss damage
it also felt like shit to play
cause you cant freely vanish
wait what does the toy even do
for mechanics and shit
Is 6m too much for your ring zac? there's one on silvermoon eu
ye I gave FB a few tries in keys, its just hot ass
and having to be in melee to vanisih
is so annoying
and then
i also got meleed
like 3 times
yeah that does sound shitty
it makes you turn like ethereal pinkish
acctually though
but thats mostly skill issue
no perma tricks is alone enough reason not to play FB
the best thing ever
cause im not used to tricks in combat anymore
lmao so true
when we chain and shit
perma tricks is 10000/10
like I dont get why
and also
yeah perma tricks should be baseline frfr
its too op
perma tricks isnt just how tricks normally behaves tbh
good capstone
LOOOOOOOOL
i dont even know
did they never fix that bug
i dont understand how that happened honestly
I like how theyre fixing and tuning raid finder Dimmy before addressing evne one of the laundry list of rogue bugs, or tuning us 
actual just generational incompetence
I died tho
on a pack
so htat was bad
maybe lost like
a bit
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxQi0ZLI0oIkIZnKaQb4-g_L1D2oyaYnxi?si=nBOmsmXH2DLHJITk @fathom bramble @frail veldt @gaunt phoenix thoughts
looooool
yeah you went straight to 7
ye so i should get it
its when you skip 7 that you dont
like at least a full gcd
it looks like you opened with AR GS BTE immediately
ye
that gets you 7/4 and no coin
yeah but hes at 7 for quite a bit
well ye
like he def doesnt skip it
a full gcd
there is some delay before you get the lucky coin buff no?




