outlaw

[torpid fiber]

feels shit

[hardy thicket]

I assume the CDR and not wasting EB proccs takes priority but I dont know the actual math behind it. I trust the FAQ

[indigo token]

i will say

i like the tier set

but id like it a lot more if you got full cp after coup

[hardy thicket]

Would be lit if it worked like your 2nd free coup just mirrors whichever CP you finished on for your first coup

but then again I swear Outlaw would prolly still just finish at lower CP under certain condiitons

[stiff vector]

so far p1 of nexusp rince actually feels kind of fun on outlaw

feel rly tanky and having giga mobility is rly nice

[grim spear]

lol i really did want to live.

[wintry solar]

Why weren't you locked in for Loom?

You could've got 100

[gaunt phoenix]

you send it early if you have to press sinister strike

to minimize the potential to waste unseen blades

[buoyant cosmos]

we lost another one

[stiff vector]

not my awang

its so joever

[keen belfry]

[buoyant cosmos]

fart

[keen belfry]

brap

[gaunt phoenix]

the apl pretty much delays vanish for coup every time if possible

however tobfon was looking at some things like sending vanish with supercharger if coup is likely far away which seems fine

[buoyant cosmos]

ouh a wet one

[manic light]

so you can press every other button that generate more than 1 CP and if you cant you just send it?

[gaunt phoenix]

yea

[stiff vector]

time to play a little bit of post raid decline simulator

[quaint mauve]

bro

[buoyant cosmos]

it's hot rn

[manic light]

but is it always a rule of thumb that you only send 1 global between the coups?

[gaunt phoenix]

no you might like pistol shot and then ks

[grim spear]

bc locking in happens at about 8:30 pm in my time zone

[gaunt phoenix]

if ks becomes ready between coups

[manic light]

I see, didnt know that

[stiff vector]

ye I think thats enough of decline simulator already

so few io keys posted, cant afford to just not get invited to any of them legit just not worth the time rn

[frail veldt]

thats where Im at

I just listed my key

16 gambit

hunter did a mil less than me and dk did 2 mil less.....we ran out of time obv

how do yall make sure you arent getting dead weight dps in lfg lol

they were both 3250+ score

[manic light]

what is good dps atm?

[frail veldt]

depends on the key

[manic light]

fair enough, can you give me an average. I am not very good at dps

[frail veldt]

like 7-9 mil is a good target to aim for id say

[gaunt phoenix]

most of my rando keys are between 8-9m overall

except dawn

[frail veldt]

keys like floodgate can be well over 9

[gaunt phoenix]

ye

[frail veldt]

and yeah dawn and gambit can be low

[gaunt phoenix]

i just did a key without deft

[frail veldt]

ooooof

[gaunt phoenix]

but luckily i chained 5 buffs for like half of it

[frail veldt]

hahaha

[gaunt phoenix]

[frail veldt]

ezpz

[manic light]

aight, still to break a 6m

but I'll shoot for 7-8

[stiff vector]

whelp back on the hunter we go I guess

[fluid meadow]

ideally what should be the diff between plain and ld rolls numbers? i think i roll too much times

[bright crane]

Are you playing the multi or no-multi shot build

[buoyant cosmos]

Raid logs can help, but it's still a gamble

[gaunt phoenix]

that's normal

it should be like 40:60

[buoyant cosmos]

Tried my 15 flood, stops didn't get chained on the kelp so gg go next

[stiff vector]

Ye sometimes I check raid logs, and see if they have keys logged. Generally good way to see if someone is actually good at their spec, or are just boosted io by playing an OP sec

[frail veldt]

I check raid logs

But even pink parsers in raid I've seen perform pretty meh in keys

Guess j should look at key performance

[buoyant cosmos]

I don't always, most of the time it's just Yolo phys comp

I think that even w/ logs your main WCL key ranking is just based on the points you have, not any damage metric

[proven ocean]

@vivid vessel good morning bozo friend

[stiff vector]

well yeah, but it depends if their keys are actually logged, then you can look at their damage rankings per key.

Like I personally log a lot of the keys I do so I cna look back at stuff

[frail veldt]

I feel like im not rolling enough without LD

[gaunt phoenix]

maybe not

[frail veldt]

you would be in this community @keen belfry

[keen belfry]

the ppl in there

are so cringe

[frail veldt]

LOL

[keen belfry]

no cappi

[frail veldt]

yeah I honestly never really use it

my buddy added me

[keen belfry]

you just get random whispers asking for your key

[frail veldt]

I feel like I so often have more than 3 buffs so I dont want to roll

like 3 red buffs

idk if my buff uptime is bad or not

[cinder haven]

that looks like mine kinda, I don't think it's wrong

even with SOH I feel like LD is up for most rolls

[frail veldt]

yeah

[cinder haven]

beating the odds still!

[frail veldt]

daaaang

[silk stirrup]

I miss the s2 tier set

[cinder haven]

wonder if its time to race change to dwarf again

[stiff vector]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-nuke-super-truth-nova-truth-meme-gif-16889273424352737553

[misty hawk]

I hate this wa, just shows how unlucky I am

[cinder haven]

skill issue, roll better

[buoyant cosmos]

I've started logging mine again too

Getting into them is crap, I was duoing with a BM friend but he can play all day so he's almost 3300 now

[frail veldt]

such a small sample

[quaint mauve]

i don’t like how easy streets felt with a bm hunter man

[stiff vector]

ok MM definitely feels a bit better to play than BM

BM its like I feel nothing when I press buttons

MM its like

holy im blasting

this big dick aimed shot rips

[cinder haven]

BM is 3 buttons right?

plus cds and util ofc but, main rotation is really just 3?

[torpid fiber]

maybe I should get into bm so I can play wow and silksong at the same time

[stiff vector]

it is honestly the most simple shit ever, there is barely any nuance to it

like half the nuance is just double stampede timign with your 4pc

and then basically like...making sure youre targetting the right mob so it does max dmg

but the rotation itself almost could not be more simple

[quaint mauve]

basically

press 3 buttons and you’ll do more aoe and ST than every other spec

im upset but whatever

i timed 2 15s today

[stiff vector]

altho without 4p yet, I was tending to do more aoe as DR, but thats because the 4pc is kinda OP for PL aoe

[frail veldt]

how do they always lose in overall then

idgi

at least majority of them

maybe all the good ones are already doing 18s

[stiff vector]

I am about to do my first MM key

[proper veldt]

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[quaint mauve]

because do you think people who play bm have hands?

[reef ruin]

share wa

[mighty pivot]

I see it didn't catch part of your LD rolls because it doesn't add up to 100

[cinder haven]

yeah it's some case where you 5 roll after KIR I think and only replace buffs you already had

[cedar kernel]

tobfon i have an idea, what if we take off odd for 2 points fth, when we using sleight and loaded

[cinder haven]

odd?

[cedar kernel]

wait

uh yea

[mighty pivot]

if you mean cto you can't

[cinder haven]

ace or GS are the only things you can drop unless you wanna int

but it's still troll

[cedar kernel]

oh

sry i just woke

my brain is not woke

[cinder haven]

aceless HO works

because you can always ambush and refill CP

aceless KIR is not a good idea

[mighty pivot]

playing without ace takes half the fun away

[quaint mauve]

bro i feel so bad for this group

but i felt so sick mid key

[cinder haven]

yeah, just saying it's viable on HO (but not fun)

[quaint mauve]

and had to go throw up

gg

[cinder haven]

it's very easy to play aceless HO because there's almost nothing you have to react to

[quaint mauve]

ace is like

the most dopamine producing talent tho

[cinder haven]

yes I know

[quaint mauve]

aceless HO sounds like death and misery

[cinder haven]

yes, but for a beginner it is probably a good starting build

[quaint mauve]

go straight into learning 1 fth kir

like a real outlaw rogue

(me)

[stiff vector]

time

[cedar kernel]

wait u sleep rn?

[glossy nest]

Hello there 🙂 Do you think the effect of the "Band of the Shattered Soul" is valuable for outlaw on mythic+ ? Did someone tried it ?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=242405/band-of-the-shattered-soul

[frail veldt]

NA bro

[cedar kernel]

ok have a nice sleep brothers

[quaint mauve]

what even does cosmic dmg

i’d assume it’s meh

too much haste on a ring too imo

[coral onyx]

is crit ever better than vers?

from a m+ pov

[torpid fiber]

It can sim better if you have very little of it

[vale warren]

When I had like 4k crit and like 30k Vers it was simming way better lol

[mighty pivot]

does the ring only reduce true cosmic damage, or does the reduction apply to a subset of the cosmic spell schools?

[vale warren]

Top comment on wowhead says all subsets

[mighty pivot]

with how common shadow and arcane are this should affect a lot of spells then

[vale warren]

Yeah should be pretty much everything in raid and most things in m+

Aside from some physical stuff ig

[frail veldt]

Well arcane holy nature shadow

But yeah this season that's got to be most stuff

[rotund zodiac]

What even is cosmic spells

[glossy nest]

Could be nice then for M+ , i guess. Top comment on wowhead also says it has a very high uptime

[glossy nest]

I agree, but even with it - i'm 19% haste with my current build. With the haste cap, I guess I can focus on versatility with other pieces of gear (currently at 26% versatility, 23% crit, 32% mastery)

[tired crow]

do we still play sword and dagger or can you also use 2x sword?

[inland acorn]

!oh

[ornate heath]

A dagger offhand is technically like 0.2% better than a slow weapon because it generates more Instant Poison procs. That is the only difference, Fatal Flourish proc rate is normalized to be unaffected by the change in attack speed. Note that item level or stats will matter more than this quirk, or you can simply use a slow weapon anyway for transmog.

[tired crow]

thanks!

[young elbow]

Any good hints/videos for soul hunters mythic?
It's a bit hard to get consistent rota and dmg in on our tries.

[inland acorn]

not really, just stick to the bosses

Your raid should position hunt in a way that melee don't loose uptime

Abuse your mobility, to stick with bosses. Try to hold ADR for last intermission, because uptime there will be always a problem, so having ADR ready after it ends is good

[wintry solar]

I can't believe they gave us Cudgel again

[muted crest]

Sim for stat weight

[inland acorn]

don't sim stat weight... just sim top gear...

[coral onyx]

rets>arcane

[muted crest]

Y ofc top gear more accurate... If he wants to see how crit scales stat weight can helpfull thats what isaid

[tired crow]

i see some outlaws they are using this weapon here in high keys.
https://www.wowhead.com/item=237780/nightfall-curseblades-cudgel?bonus=6652:12281:1540:10255

is this item so strong?

[coral onyx]

yeah it's good in m+ because we reset stealth a lot

[golden epoch]

I assume it only works if held in your main hand?

[coral onyx]

you use it off-hand only

[golden epoch]

Ah, nice!

[coral onyx]

there's a pin about it

[quaint mauve]

only source of uncapped aoe we have

[tired crow]

what is the tank chain pulling? we have only 2 vanish only

[jolly geyser]

can even get weapon swap reminder wa before bosses

[coral onyx]

i got 76 vanishes off last dungeon and 18 stealths

[tired crow]

little bit sad that we must use stealth. Would definitely be better to have it procced from a certain chance

[coral onyx]

that would make it useless for us tho

the whole reason it's good is because of the damage proc on opening combat

because we use vanish so much

[tired crow]

is vanish also reduced with RtB Buff?

[quaint mauve]

vanish receives cdr when you use any finisher

[languid sapphire]

Hi, i've come back to playing outlaw after some break and i have a few qestions. I've played mostly Hidden oportunity build last time and now i've switched to KIR build and now i'm kinda stuck couse last time i was able to be +/- 500-700k off the raidbots sims when training on dummies but now im like 2mln off the sims. Is it worth even trying to reach same dmg as sims say or i should rather move my attention to other things like trying to have big uptime on AR, trying to not munch or waste CP etc. and dmg will come either way?

[quaint mauve]

having big uptime, and the rest of what you said lead to you doing closer damage numbers to your sim

make sure you’re not using ambush AT ALL as kir

[languid sapphire]

why is that?

[quaint mauve]

!kir

[ornate heath]

KIR build compared to HO:

• doesn't use ambush, uses the same builder priority inside and outside of stealth
• is more cp efficient with pistol shot usage (see faq)
• has to use KIR itself as soon as you hit 4 buffs from RTB/CTO
• has an additional reroll logic after pressing KIR (see faq)
• is more punishing if you mess up builder priority at a given moment
• needs 19% haste from rating to reach 25% during adrenaline rush after alacrity
• KIR 1 FTH really likes trickster optimizations, like prioritizing SS when unseen blades are guaranteed (see faq)

[agile kernel]

is outlaw really that bad in content atm or is it just that you have to have like 250 more apm compareed to other classes to get results ?

[worldly shale]

really that bad

[daring oxide]

today is the fucking day

in 10 hours

[agile kernel]

i'll still believe in outlaw supremacy
i just need to reorder the complementary amphetamines to replay it

[cinder haven]

oasis is so buggy grrr

"return to the oasis"

yeah..

had both campaign quest and some daily that refuses to complete on the return to the oasis step, very nice

also the ball game fox thing that breaks when you stealth, nice

I need 1k more rep, bleh

maybe I can luck on out a delve or something

you can't know beforehand if you'll get ka'resh rep on a delve right?

[timid portal]

u have 1250 rep for weekly from delve

[timid portal]

every time i did bountiful t11 first time after reset i got rep

[cinder haven]

when you open a bountiful chest you get rep with something

but not always ka'resh

[timid portal]

then im lucky

every time i got karesh

[quiet root]

depends what content, it's actually pretty good in low pug keys (like 12s and stuff)

if you're not pushing past that for whatever reason

its not bad

[digital gale]

hi guys! when u sim for m+, use the Dungeon Slice or Patchwerk with 8 bosses?

[cinder haven]

you can do good overalls in low-mid keys

still kinda bad damage profile, a lot of pad

[cinder haven]

dslice is well supported on outlaw

[digital gale]

i see, thx ^^

[quiet root]

isn't looking good on the meters all that matters when you're timing the key anyway 🙂

[cinder haven]

for me? yes, certainly

[shell fossil]

anyone try gouge over blind this season?

[jolly geyser]

nah I like aoe blind

[quaint mauve]

you need to have that much apm to comfortably sit below every other spec drooling on their keyboards

[cedar kernel]

[quaint mauve]

living my dream…

i still need floodgate dawn and gambit

[supple iris]

!macro

[ornate heath]

Macroing gs is relatively "ok", be aware that it wont ever be entirely optimal: target swapping in m+ or putting it on a dying target for example. You can macro it to all your abilities.

[quaint mauve]

floodgate is actually so hard now

[cedar kernel]

those are easy

[quaint mauve]

idk

floodgate just hurts

last boss*

[cedar kernel]

cast feint

[quaint mauve]

i do

[cedar kernel]

oh btw

[quaint mauve]

and i have evasion for every single like

aoe phase

[cedar kernel]

don get too closer when it phase

yea when u get closer the dmg bigger

lessons

[quaint mauve]

oh

maybe

that’s why

he hurts so much

[cedar kernel]

if i stand with boss i will be instant kill

[quaint mauve]

idk why im talking like im even getting to the boss on a 15 🫩

[supple iris]

last boss just evade turbo charge and feint + heal cd when u have blue circle

[quaint mauve]

all my keys brick b4 first boss

[supple iris]

if u are dying heal suck

[proven tiger]

How much haste I want, gearing my outlaw rogue and I remember I needed like 17%-20% haste for KiR build

[cedar kernel]

dude i found ret pally is too crazy

in dmg

like when i with him i got no dmg there

💀

[jolly geyser]

ret be doing dmg

[quaint mauve]

exactly 19.04%

[proven tiger]

👍

[hasty warren]

Hi pirates

[quaint mauve]

god im so mad

this belt sims better than the delve belt

ONLY if

i recraft both my weapons to have no haste

delve belt stays ig

[cedar kernel]

[hasty warren]

yo bac

[cedar kernel]

hi elfi

[hasty warren]

how are u ?

[cedar kernel]

fine ty

[fathom carbon]

The arathi event offhand only drops ''high'' ilvl from the weekly ''complete the scenario'' event right ?

[cinder haven]

Yes

Remember to open the box as outlaw loot spec

[fathom carbon]

Stat related question. Guides claim to aim for around 20% haste playing KiR in m+.
I'm at 15% atm, can swap out thread in cloak + get ring enchants to hunt the 20%.
Would it be greif to keep grinding items with haste at 15%, or SHOULD i swap into that 20% meanwhile ?

[cinder haven]

Yes you should

Haste is almost double value of the next stat until 19.05% or so

[fathom carbon]

I see, tyvm 🙂

[cinder haven]

You don’t lose the fiber when swapping btw

So you can just keep diff ones around and swap as needed to juggle cap

Cheaper than changing enchants and gems or recrafting

[fathom carbon]

My plan, atm, was to swap into Haste flask + Cloak

[cinder haven]

Good plan

[fathom carbon]

I think that should do it, but rings are the backup 😄

With vers flask i just hit 27k vers though

So that's something

[agile orchid]

I wish we could have multiple cloaks at once

and not have to keep swapping the fibers

[cinder haven]

But why

[fathom carbon]

So we can use gear presets swaps and bring the thread with us :p

[cinder haven]

So it works with eq manager?

[nova basin]

how many of you guys are running a pvp ring at the moment?

[fathom carbon]

There's a pvp ring 😄 ?

[nova basin]

wowtoxic (now r1) has a pvp ring xD

[cinder haven]

They have very good stat split

But this season there’s the raid ring

So it seems unnecessary

[fathom carbon]

As a m+ only player who does not raid. This ring sounds interesting though 😄 What ilvl does it cap out on ?

[cinder haven]

There’s the ring from gambit, crafted option and the raid one

Myth track

Boe

But they are expensive af rn

[fathom carbon]

So it's a grindable myth track ring. Sounds kinda juicey as a m+ only player

[cinder haven]

I guess you can join boe farm group or something

Idk if they exist

[fathom carbon]

Did not even know pvp had boe drops, i assume they're similar to raid boe's ?

[cinder haven]

No I’m talking about the raid ring

[fathom carbon]

oh

[cinder haven]

Pvp ring is veteran track or something at best in pve

[fathom carbon]

ah, might aswell keep my gambit ring for now then

[cinder haven]

I don’t see pvp ring being worth getting this tier

[nova basin]

704

[cinder haven]

Champ track then

[stiff glade]

The boe belt is very tempting

750k atm

[cinder haven]

Yeah

[fathom carbon]

Delve belt getting nerfed at the .5 patch right ?

[cinder haven]

Yep

[fathom carbon]

was thinking belt would be my next craft

[stiff glade]

it's just marginally better than a crafted belt though, so it seems a bit silly at the same time

[cinder haven]

And boe from raid might increase in price when that patch drops

You can craft something else and gain more power faster

[jolly geyser]

Ye

[stiff glade]

true, but I'm capped on crests anyway

[cinder haven]

But then there’s turbo boost around the corner

Today is the day we get buffs surely

[jolly geyser]

Boe take ages to drop also

[stiff glade]

I've been queueing for 1 hour now trying to get into a 15. Not one invite

Can we just get ... one buff pls?

If nothing else to make people think we're good now

[nova basin]

just go find a bug that lets us do tonnes of damage, im sure there is one there, with rogue there always is.

[fathom carbon]

The double dispatch bug was not fun though. I never used it but felt so wrong non the less

[jolly geyser]

Bunch of people killed zek vir with giga dmg bug

[nova basin]

you use the coup de grace bug in s1 with talent switching with the buff? aha. that was broken.

but lets not talk about naughty things 😛

[cinder haven]

I don’t like the tier set tbh

[nova basin]

its so janky yea

[cinder haven]

FB is alright

Trickster not so much

I don’t like that you waste so many EB stacks

[nova basin]

yea GS on fate feels nice, but im m+ so trickster struggles

[cinder haven]

And have to jump through so many hoops to avoid waste

I have experimental apl changes with even more hoops

Builder priority gets really complicated

[mighty pivot]

if only we had given them feedback on how to make the bonus less annoying to play around

[tired crow]

it feels a bit difficult to play the outlaw^^ keep an eye on which buffs are good and which are not and then also activate keep it rolling dauz still in the time window BtE use... At the moment, priority is also more of a problem for me. I know that I should use BtE non-stop with Vanish, but what about KS and CdG?

[cinder haven]

KS over coup unless you have to build with sinister strike in order to KS, in this case you do low CP coup instead

[tired crow]

so Coup with less CP then KS

[cinder haven]

it's a general rule really, if you have coup available you want to avoid pressing SS

because it could proc UB and you have for stacks of escalating blade already and can't gain another

so it would be wasted

this rule applies even if KS is available

but if you are at 6+ CP then you KS first and the coup

[tired crow]

allright

[cinder haven]

but again, after KS if you would have to build with SS you would send coup at low CP instead

often you have adrenaline rush, PS or BF to build with though

[tired crow]

ahh now i understand why coup with less cp because had the same function like 5 cp

[cinder haven]

I mean it does more damage if you can use more CP

but you still get a lot of CDR even if you use it at low cp due to the extra 5 CP yeah

and it's better to not waste stacks of Escalating Blade so you can build faster towards next set of coups

all of this could have been avoided if they let us build more than 4 stacks of escalating blade

does anyone know if we can ignore Turn to Stone in HOA somehow?

[lethal oak]

Try evasion for science

[quiet root]

i saw a spreadsheet in here detailing what could be evasioned, cloaked, and/or feinted in every s3 dungeon

[fading hatch]

If im in vanish window and coup procs, and im low cp, so i continue to ss/bte as usual? From wowhead rotation yes but ive seen people say never ss when coup is up

[quiet root]

i learned about evasioning the cyclone in menagerie fight (streets) from that spreadsheet and it made that fight so much nicer to play

[cinder haven]

!def

[ornate heath]

Rogue Defensive Spreadsheet: > Click to open <

[cinder haven]

is that updated again?

has been dead for ages

[quiet root]

oh apparently turn to stone is not in there, alright

[cinder haven]

oh ninjarobot made a new one, very nice

but yeah turn to stone is not there

but evasion works on thrash according to this

thats cool

and cloak works on sin quake, wouldn't have expected that tbh since it looks physical

[quiet root]

couping in subterfuge makes it so that you're not spending the points on BTE, which is the absolute highest priority

[sacred rune]

its a new method/author

!atro

[ornate heath]

Atrophic /Feint in Raid: > Click to Open <

[sacred rune]

exists too

[cinder haven]

very nice

[quiet root]

most surprising for me was black edge in dawn being evasionable

that does not look like it should work

[hardy thicket]

Dafaq

Thought that was cloak angle

[quiet root]

black edge is also how i got reminded that you can only dodge attacks from mobs that you're facing 🙂

[cinder haven]

but I still want a way to stay in turn to stone

[quiet root]

both work

[cinder haven]

you lose too much uptime on the BL pull after first boss sometimes I feel

[quiet root]

just have perfect grapple mechanics

easy

[hardy thicket]

Ye but evasion a million times better then

[quiet root]

yeah especially since it's the only thing in the entire dungeon evasion works on

[quiet root]

coming back to this, if you ever end up in a situation where you have to build with SS but you won't be able to build enough points for another BTE inside subterfuge, that's when you can coup. should be exceedingly rare for this to come up though

[mighty pivot]

its effect looks physical but the damage is shadow

[cinder haven]

good work with this

[cinder haven]

I actually simmed today that it's fine to low cp coup in crackshot if you have UB charges ready and would otherwise have to SS

small gain even

like 0.1%

I might go into HOA later and try shit on turn to stone

[mighty pivot]

I will look into turn to stone, but it's physical and it's hard to find someone who is brave enough to attempt cloaking it

[cinder haven]

can just do it in a normal

rather than brick some poor soul's key

[granite merlin]

So does everyone use the sinister strike cancel aura?

Should I be using that?

[cinder haven]

sinister strike cancel aura?

[stiff vector]

You can cloak it, I did it in the last 16 halls. Think I should have it logged

[granite merlin]

Sorry I meant slice and dice

[proper veldt]

Yeah I cloak it too

[quiet root]

oh that is nice to know because that glowy coup icon on my WA has been beckoning me at times

[vivid vessel]

its kinda useless

its not something that will move your overall in a dungeon in any meaningfull way

[granite merlin]

I’m having a hard time getting above 75% ad rush uptime :/

[vivid vessel]

ye that wont help

[cinder haven]

it's a little bit nice in the opener of a dungeon

[mighty pivot]

then it must only be the immunity second that works

[granite merlin]

I keep using ad rush before intermissions

[stiff glade]

Until you brain lag and roll over a 5 roll out of habit

[vivid vessel]

whats that

[stiff glade]

I've never done that tho

Never

[cinder haven]

skill issue?

[vivid vessel]

is it the circle aoe on the trash after first boss?

you cant cloak it no ?

[stiff glade]

Very much so

[mighty pivot]

the aoe stun the big gargoyles do

[vivid vessel]

idk i swear i tried the 1s imunitty

and it idditn work

are you saying it does work

[elfin mural]

!gear

[mighty pivot]

I don't believe anyone until I have a log either

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1406175771495759952/outlaw.webp

[mighty pivot]

no, others are saying that they do it

[cinder haven]

turn to stone yeah, after first boss from the reavers

I wanna stay in

[vivid vessel]

strange

im almost certain i tried 1s immunity on ptr

i tried all of it

mul;tiple time

[mighty pivot]

I can see the 1s immunity maybe working but no proof yet

[vivid vessel]

maybe it changedd since then

[stiff vector]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Nh9PfRBJAnw6vVmp?fight=34&type=damage-taken&source=2 if you look I don’t have any dmg taken from the leap or the dot it leaves, although I for sure was targeted at least once iirc

[vivid vessel]

you mean 2nd boss

[mighty pivot]

you are talking about another spell though

we are talking about a trash mob

[fair oak]

the leap is nature damage

Altho

It was phys in SL no?

[quiet root]

yeah was going to say, you're probably talking about the OTHER turn to stone

[fair oak]

I remember being able to bop it

[red zinc]

The thing i was wondering

[mighty pivot]

the leap is already listed as cloak/feintable

[red zinc]

Why cant you cloak debuff from hooktail in gambit

Shit is literally magic

[vivid vessel]

talking about this

[normal forge]

what is the name of that thing that shows casts in order that you have done? I think its from details, but i cant make it active again, i closed and i cant get it back showing, it was by default opened when in a dummy. How can i get it back working?

[stiff vector]

O I thought you were talking about that one since that one is actually like, the one to really worry about immuning lol

[vivid vessel]

i mean the boss one is cloakable tho everyone knows it

[red zinc]

Does the game count that time debuff as a beneficiary debuff and not cloak it or something

I dont get it

[quiet root]

no we just want to stay in to hit the gargalons

[red zinc]

dwarf works on it too

But not cloak

[stiff vector]

Just greed with grapple

[mighty pivot]

the bombs you mean?

[stiff vector]

Or if you have 3 pulled at once just hope the tank desyncd them so you can still hit the other while the other ones are turning to stone

[red zinc]

ye

[quiet root]

yeah that's what i said, just grapple perfectly

[summer mauve]

Just got around to opening my vault, any idea if the JoE trinket is any good

[quiet root]

should be easy for the average outlaw player

[mighty pivot]

the bombs you can cloak

[red zinc]

what is this short for

[quiet root]

JoE mama i think

[cinder haven]

hmm, I might use this actually

[red zinc]

[summer mauve]

I play on Finnish client, it's the one from the spider dungeon

[quiet root]

sacbrood?

[cinder haven]

haven't bought raid ring yet and also havent spent gilded on second ring after craft

[magic shuttle]

Simmed very high for me

[red zinc]

the egg or the pillar

[summer mauve]

The one that looks like a big egg

[cinder haven]

so it'll be same ilvl as gambit ring anyway

[red zinc]

ye thats aight

depends if you need haste or not

[magic shuttle]

If I ever get that ring from delves on hc track that would be a jackpot

[summer mauve]

Sorry if u thought i was saying something weird, don't know name of items in game haha

[stiff vector]

I have one but I don’t use it anymore more just use crafted crit/vers and gambit ring

[cinder haven]

I'll see what I can do, I'm at 19.21% haste so I'll lose a bit too much from this

but can solve that I think

[red zinc]

naw all good just didnt know what you meant

[quiet root]

next time ask us about the DN trinket 🙂

[red zinc]

[normal forge]

here is mine

[cinder haven]

yeah should be possible to get a higher simming combo with that instead of gambit

[rotund zodiac]

Where u get that ring

[cinder haven]

delve

I was actually fishing for ka'resh rep

[granite merlin]

Woah there are people using fatebound in high keys 🔑

[rotund zodiac]

Juicy

[cinder haven]

no luck tho

[rotund zodiac]

I’ll try my luck for hero track ring next week

[cinder haven]

it's probably better than trickster in Streets and maybe Dawn

[rotund zodiac]

From delve

[granite merlin]

6 of top rogues on murlok

[cinder haven]

murlok..

they just logged out in raid spec

[rotund zodiac]

Noted!

[civic zephyr]

wait whats so good about this ring? why not farm dungeon rings?

[granite merlin]

Oh hahaha I thought it snapshots

[cinder haven]

pretty sure it doesn't

do they take deft?

if not, it's surely raid spec

[quiet root]

i do hate playing trickster 1fth in streets but i'm not sure if i want to relearn fatebound and get all the cringe macros for it

[stiff vector]

I have so many socked rings and necks lol prob spent like 100k on enchanting and gemming then all easily

[rotund zodiac]

Pretty sure only 1 dungeon ring has vers/haste

[quiet root]

yeah it's just the gambit ring

[civic zephyr]

yea then you go for a vers crit ring

[quiet root]

i crafted ring though

is there a vers/crit ring?

in dungeons

[rotund zodiac]

Which dung has it?

[civic zephyr]

idk i also crafted

is there not one? i just assumed there is one

[rotund zodiac]

I don’t think there is one iirc

[cinder haven]

there isn't one

[civic zephyr]

devout is crit haste

[cinder haven]

we don't do that here

all items must have vers

[civic zephyr]

have both signet of collapsing stars and devout and im wearing devout cause it sims higher

think cause it was giving me too much haste or something iirc

[cinder haven]

probably yeah

but if you can remove haste elsewhere and get more vers or crit it'll be better most likely

[stiff glade]

We gaming now

[civic zephyr]

expensive waist lmao

[mighty pivot]

this simmed 0.1% loss (by also losing the socket) at that ilvl

[civic zephyr]

2m gold

[vivid vessel]

its 700k

lol

[stiff glade]

not that bad

vers crit is the cheapest one too

[civic zephyr]

oh last i checked it was 2m, mustve dropped a ton

[vivid vessel]

the belt ?

never was taht much idk

NA maybe

[stiff glade]

some sell them for 2M

but it's usually high haste, low mast and with avoidance or socket

[proper veldt]

probably go haste vers belt instead of crit no so you can go full vers statted ring eventually

[mighty pivot]

prices vary significantly per realm

[proper veldt]

• raid neck

[cinder haven]

oh I hadn't done the lore books rep stuff

can get r18 easy now

[civic zephyr]

ok yeah prices dropped a ton, i may have checked when boes came out

[vivid vessel]

i mean

check on the website tho

not on your realm

you know everything is cross realm now with the warbound bank

[civic zephyr]

what website?

[vivid vessel]

wowpay2win

[mighty pivot]

not that many people are aware they can do that ye

[vivid vessel]

you can put golds in the warbank, then buy on any realm, then put the belt in the warbank

[slate forge]

Promoting pay2win smh

[vivid vessel]

like

essentially

everything is cross realm

rn

[civic zephyr]

ohhh cool ty

[quiet root]

yeah that sounds so much like an rmt site

[civic zephyr]

right, lol just the name of it

[quiet root]

i could see that getting spammed in general chat with a bunch of weird characters and fonts

[cinder haven]

name is very accurate though

[fervent garden]

yeah, the site im on looks like 3rd party and asking for specific realm

[vivid vessel]

wdym

[civic zephyr]

you dont need to specify realm

[vivid vessel]

ye idk why there is a realm specific thing anymore

its useless now

[fervent garden]

agree. the site im going to for worldwide auction is wowauction.us which i imagione is wrong?

so im wondeering what site you are going to

[quiet root]

it is literally called wowpay2win

like zac said

[fervent garden]

there you go

didnt see what zac said

thanks

[mighty pivot]

it's ok many people have zac on ignore, devs included

[quiet root]

based

[civic zephyr]

what site do i go to for outlaw coachings, guy ignores my DMs

[mighty pivot]

you find ryukage in the wilds

[civic zephyr]

my cpm always in the 70s and idk why

in dungeons at least

[quiet root]

the forbidden teachings of 50% haste

[civic zephyr]

lmao i had 27% haste i think last season? so i learned a lot about ryukage

until i recrafted

waiting for wowhead to update so i can click on class tuning and expect to see outlaw buffs

[cinder haven]

and get disappointed

[civic zephyr]

hoping for the best but expecting the worst

[shy meteor]

Imagine Seeing outlaw in Patch notes

[mighty pivot]

they will announce it tonight yes 100% (100% if they announce it that is)

[cinder haven]

100% chance that they announce outlaw buffs if they announch outlaw buffs

meh, maybe I can't use the delve ring

I already got rid of all mastery that is possible to get rid of

can swap crit for more vers but crit sims higher now I think

[quiet root]

just play sleight of hand so you can drop thief's versatility and restore vers' rightful place at the top of stat weights

[cinder haven]

I already play SOH ofc

meh faction change is so expensive

I kinda feel like blizz are secretely laughing at me every time I pay for this

[craggy quiver]

[quiet root]

laughing all the way to the bank

those guys

[cinder haven]

beating the odds !

[craggy quiver]

good seed

[cinder haven]

[quiet root]

wait you guys are cheating

[stiff glade]

I don't have enough rolls yet, but the needle is moving the right way

[quiet root]

extremely loaded dice

[civic zephyr]

what WA is that please?

!wa

[ornate heath]

Class packs:

• Guy's - Afenar's Edit Luxthos Edit
• Zac's Group Devlin
  Utilities:
• Combo Point Standalone
• Last GCD in Crackshot window / Subterfuge timer
• Ace refund sound trigger
• RtB buffs tracker (shows normal, CTO, and KIR'd buffs)
• Unseen Blade tracker
  Fun:
• Ace max combo counter and Ace current combo counter

[cinder haven]

it's not there, lemme dig it up

[civic zephyr]

ty man!

[cinder haven]

https://wago.io/I9nB9GUcJ/

[civic zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-i-appreciate-you-pathtosuccess-appreciate-gif-5440528

[coral onyx]

flickerstrike is OP

dont tell anyone

[cinder haven]

31523 vers with flask now

[mighty pivot]

I checked a week ago and nobody ran it on lexus king saladbar

[cinder haven]

I assumed the UB tracker WA doesn't handle flickerstrike?

[mighty pivot]

no

[vivid vessel]

eh

i doubt this talent is good idk

[mighty pivot]

but flickerstrike might be easier to handle for specific fights. Or at least, more reliable to track

[vivid vessel]

every 5s is already kinda what you get with the normal thing anyway

its like 20s cd but i bet on average its more like 7/10s

[cinder haven]

yeah sounds about right

[mighty pivot]

what you get is more like once per 10s with thousand cuts

4,5 ppm hasted

[random stirrup]

I press my 25 energy feint every 5 seconds to proc a ub so that I can press my 40 energy sinister strike to use it while losing the attack speed from thousand cuts

[cinder haven]

with ala

19.04%

[mighty pivot]

yes but you relive what trickster would've been with feint tied to UB

[vivid vessel]

tbf if you are proccing

feint is litteraly free

so

[cinder haven]

either you have infinite energy or none

[vivid vessel]

ye

thats the outlaw way

[mighty pivot]

my suspicion is that it procs even from aoe damage auras, which is why I want to see someone using it on saladbar

I think it's 2 more bosses with damage auras

but dimmy's stops at points

maybe I can find someone using it on soulbinder

[strong halo]

Legit never crossed my mind

[mossy shell]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255110288081162311/1374365469884289034/KillingSpreeDawnbreaker.gif

life is not the same without killing spree

[mighty pivot]

where duel with awang nessa?

[copper radish]

I miss those days 😭

[mossy shell]

awang is the busy one I'm around

[mighty pivot]

or he's scared

[jolly geyser]

we need surviving spree

[mighty pivot]

this is happening now with no outlaw buffs

[jolly geyser]

nah this is kill me spree rn

[mighty pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-spy-medic-kill-me-team-fortress2-gif-21078154

[jolly geyser]

[tranquil panther]

I feel like I’m really, really bad at Outlaw, even after practicing on the dummy

am I wrong in thinking this is one of the hardest dps specs in the game? am I overthinking it?

[cinder haven]

it's pretty hard

#outlaw-faq here is a very good resource

[stiff vector]

Most specs these days are generally pretty easy/simple to grasp and not terribly complex to master. Even the historically more difficult specs(like say, Arcane) have mostly been simplified and made easier to a certain extent.

[cinder haven]

outlaw is probably up for that soon

[daring oxide]

Outlaw in midnight be like

https://tenor.com/view/sml-jeffy-crayons-drawing-coloring-gif-17828611879770550491

[mighty pivot]

not just probably, it's basically confirmed

outlaw will be the first OBR-only spec

[daring oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/treys-trades-trey-crayons-amc-eat-crayons-dumb-money-gif-22697927

[jolly geyser]

[cinder haven]

feeling optimistic today?

[torpid heath]

https://tenor.com/view/tryan-trying-blocks-block-head-tryan-blocks-gif-13157134546106029566

[jolly geyser]

tbf I dont like current outlaw,too much shit but its ok ig

[mighty pivot]

outlaws can only find the square hole

[cinder haven]

today is buff day yes?

[craggy quiver]

Going from otl to bm is like night and day

[stiff vector]

ngl im kind of scared at what theyre going to do regarding what they said about Outlaw being known as being hyper reliant on WAs

[vivid vessel]

even I

[craggy quiver]

I dunno what to do with myself when playing bm I feel like I have all the time in the world

[vivid vessel]

I thin nk current outlaw went too far in the bullshit

mostly hero talents tho

[jolly geyser]

yes

[vivid vessel]

shits horrendous

[jolly geyser]

bloated mess

[vivid vessel]

and its not fun difficulty'

[mighty pivot]

guessing whether thousand cuts has procced is very engaging gameplay

[stiff vector]

its just tedious shit added on top of the normal complexities of the spec...all while the hero trees are designed like complete fucking hot ass

[cinder haven]

I wonder if I will gain dps if I change from 20s to 15s in LEs UB WA

[jolly geyser]

I have fun doing m+ with ret (ye ye I know)

not much with outlaw

I do good dmg and I take not much dmg

[mighty pivot]

that would only become very misleading when there is downtime

[cinder haven]

true

[pastel cedar]

outlaw does good damage i dont get the doom and gloom

have you seen our ST?

[cinder haven]

probably not worth

Could instead make it count aa:s

[mighty pivot]

that's what I suggested it in the tc channel as well. Make it count autos and increment the chance that it has procced based on the number of autos

but at that point it's as gamba as it can get

[daring oxide]

There’s a 50/50 chance we get a buff or get ignored

[zealous plinth]

We Need wowhead article about that shit design

[daring oxide]

I’m hopeful

[worldly shale]

everything in life is 50%

except that

its 0%

[mighty pivot]

lock the channel, write a wowhead article, and spam everywhere #something

[zealous plinth]

I mean the UB stuff is basically the Same Like lunar Storm for Hunter was before, just even worth cause lunar Storm didn’t get resets

And Even lunar Storm got a trackable buff now

[cinder haven]

We must track the untrackable

[muted crest]

Whats the optimal spelllque window for outlaw what do.you guys use?

[indigo token]

ro ro fight the powah

[slate forge]

Blizzard dev will wake up it’s 4pm the community manager has sent him an email 3 hours ago asking if there are any tuning updates he needs to get out to the public he looks at the headline of the wowhead articles for the week sees fury climbing replies 5% aura nerf to fury warrior then goes back to sleep a weeks worth of work accomplished

[bright crane]

What’s the fastest way to gear an alt

[quaint delta]

what do you consider "gearing"? rely on warbound gear, craft as much as possible, run around to quartermasters for free crests and valorstones

[inland acorn]

Warbound + crafting + getting boosted in m+

[rotund zodiac]

does this buff affect whetstone?

[quaint delta]

no

[inland acorn]

No

[rotund zodiac]

what about radiant power?

[inland acorn]

Yes

[rotund zodiac]

cool

[quaint delta]

the tooltip is wrong. the buff only affects enchants

[rotund zodiac]

small indie dev smh

[inland acorn]

Well technically whetstone is not enchant

[craggy quiver]

Buffs today?! 📡

[cinder haven]

it's 50/50 Vurai said

either it happens or it doesn't

[jolly geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

[wintry solar]

Idk what everyone's problem with UB is, just see into the future.

Like

???

[mighty pivot]

what do you see in your future popo?

[cinder haven]

buffs!

[wintry solar]

Buffs!

And remix fun

300% mastery

200% haste

[mighty pivot]

1s KS as god intended

[wintry solar]

Exactly

The energy is just a bonus

Keys are gonna be a breeze

Downtime? Who cares?

[mighty pivot]

with 300% mastery you might run MG talents

[spare dome]

will todays patch include increase of my teammates kicks in keys?

[quaint delta]

you mean when they kick you out of the group?

[eager rose]

When? Today?

[spare dome]

I would need to get into group first

[quaint delta]

it's 8:30 am in blizzard land. let them get coffee

[wintry solar]

With how fast I manage to stack mastery in retail, 300% sounds kinda low ngl

[spare dome]

Nah but seriously

[wintry solar]

We'll see

[spare dome]

Im by no means a great player

I need only one 13 for a resi

but people are honestly so bad at the game

its impressive

and i mean that they just need to kick

literally

[mighty pivot]

@wintry solar cato

[spare dome]

I think blizzard is at semi fault because there is no "tutorial"

and earlier keys dont show the importance of ccs and kicks

[hasty warren]

m+ is kinda hard to learn if u have no friends to help u

[red zinc]

There will be a tutorial for kicks

in midnight

[hasty warren]

oh for real ?

[red zinc]

ye they said it

[hasty warren]

that's a good idea

[red zinc]

No clue at what point (probably some minor ass point in exiles reach)

But still

[spare dome]

oh shit

[hasty warren]

better than nothing

[spare dome]

big

[wintry solar]

[zealous lantern]

so with supercharger does it consume 14 combo points

[quaint delta]

it consumes all the combo points of other rogues in your party/raid

druids too

[zealous lantern]

im genuinely curious

what the final number is

7 base + 2 from super + 5 from coup bonus

or does it only add 5 regardless

[wintry solar]

I feel like I could destroy a pumpkin pie rn

[wintry solar]

Super is 3

[zealous lantern]

it says 2

[wintry solar]

That's weird

Whyd I think it's 3

But yeah it's 14

[wintry solar]

Wait

Forced Induction

Makes it 3

[zealous lantern]

oh yeah

[wintry solar]

15

[indigo token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451631560827994112/1350902980614033428/ride.gif

[zealous lantern]

https://imgur.com/OTndNJr

[wintry solar]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cute-cat-kitty-uwu-dont-touch-me-im-soft-gif-12936555

[gaunt phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/shane-boyle-299-birch-drive-rostock-racing-deer-club-oddkast-chocolate-gif-7604806897369123722

[craggy quiver]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1384149071106932799/1387523703100674100/togif-3.gif

Show catos

[indigo token]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ai-hug-cat-jesus-hug-cat-ai-gif-3164886642376333242

[mighty pivot]

ok

[quaint delta]

04

[mighty pivot]

Here you go

[mighty pivot]

gigafloof

and socks

[gaunt phoenix]

my cat has yet to discover she can put her weight on the bowl thing

[mighty pivot]

have you tried bribing her with snacks in it? I didn't have to do that for them but it might work for yours

[keen belfry]

is there a way to mass delete routes in MDT

i have so many saved ones

[vale warren]

Delete and reinstall the addon?

[mighty pivot]

no he'd need to delete the saved vars file of the addon in WTF

[wintry solar]

Don't wtf. It's not that serious.

[mighty pivot]

awang when are you going to stop chickening out of dueling nessa?

[keen belfry]

do i have to gap again

[mighty pivot]

we were promised a showdown

[keen belfry]

i must win twice to win once apparently

[mighty pivot]

it's ok if you are scared though no worries

[keen belfry]

shivers and trembles

[heavy shadow]

!gear

[ornate heath]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1406175771495759952/outlaw.webp

[craggy quiver]

No more outlaw chat only catlaw chat

[keen belfry]

where

[mighty pivot]

search in your WTF folder for MDT.lua and MDT.bak but that will delete ALL routes and settings for the addon

[gaunt phoenix]

WTF

[mighty pivot]

those ye

your system's date format is wrong btw

[wintry solar]

WTF!!!

[cinder haven]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-wtf-blink182-gif-13570863

[keen belfry]

that no work

[mighty pivot]

did you do that while the game was running?

you have to do it while it's not running

[keen belfry]

yes is it not like addons

okty

[mighty pivot]

otherwise reloading or exiting the game will create a new file

[keen belfry]

nice m routes are empty niceee

[mighty pivot]

most excited route deleting person

[wintry solar]

I really should use it

I can't help but draw dick and balls on it

[mighty pivot]

classic 🦶 Popo 🦶

[red zinc]

No capo

[torpid heath]

5% buff incoming

[sullen wyvern]

apparently naohw posted this

we gonna get nerfed

[grave carbon]

Bro got baited by zac

[red zinc]

Bm not even in there

[long barn]

No fury?

[cinder relic]

Bm is op but pack leader is the worst shit of all time

[vivid vessel]

15 min sim

worth it

[ripe ibex]

probably both hunter specs

no need to really separate them

[wintry solar]

how many more years until bfa classic?

[red zinc]

sevon

[wintry solar]

okie

[lethal oak]

Bfa classic but the only dungeon is Tol Dagor with 0 bug fixes

Peak WoW

[worldly sinew]

Any Tips for Loom/Araz Mythic as OL? 😂

[dawn tundra]

Don't.

I'm trying on HEROIC and failing miserably. On Araz, I mean.

[keen belfry]

blast

[worldly sinew]

I havent seen Myth mech for Araz (we're on loom atm) but Loom is terrible as melee.. and I'm trying to find the right like.. pacing/target swap/ when to cloak

[dawn tundra]

Nevermind my shit damage, the fight itself is awful.

[dawn talon]

just don't get off the boss lol

[keen belfry]

cloak the run away mechanic

grapple hook the 2nd one

[dawn talon]

^

[worldly sinew]

Yeah, Imma prolly ask to be taken off Pylons , kus that what I was doing for Heroic

[dawn talon]

and never swap to tangles ever your ranged players can do it

[keen belfry]

you can soak pylons and hit the boss, i did pylons

[dawn talon]

i say this but on our kill this week

[worldly sinew]

I was soloing a pylon bc cloak

we had a dk solo one and me soloing one

[keen belfry]

thats fine then just grapple

[dawn talon]

i did 8m damage to tangles total and it was just barrage cleaving them accidentally

LOL

[worldly sinew]

just uptime loom, no swap?

[keen belfry]

swap as needed its not that bad

[worldly sinew]

Okay. I just wanna make sure going into next week with the right things in mind. I'm on the right track then good.

What about Araz? same tech as heroic for me?

[keen belfry]

lost what, 1 gcd?

[worldly sinew]

big cleave when adds,e tc

[gaunt phoenix]

Awanga

do you record every second of your gameplay

[keen belfry]

medaltv is just running

yes

medaltv has full session

i just delete every couple days

[bright crane]

Epic gamer

[keen belfry]

its how i capture every funny moment

[dawn talon]

i just have obs running perma

bc medal ram consumption is stinky

[cinder haven]

is medaltv better than warcraftrecorder?

[keen belfry]

for wow probably not, but i play other games too

[keen belfry]

id simply forget

[dawn talon]

i just bookmark things with a hotkey

[keen belfry]

https://medal.tv/games/counter-strike-2/clips/ifZIgx4SghpcTJQqm?invite=cr-MSxFaFUsNDU1MDEwMw&v=14 how else would i capture moments like this

[gaunt phoenix]

wow 2 looks different

[keen belfry]

!continar would be like: hmm let me quick bookmark this real quick!

[dawn talon]

wp man

u earned that one

[keen belfry]

outsmarted

[dawn talon]

(ignore my overlay) i still remember to clip things...

[keen belfry]

“Ignore 40% of my screen I’m showing you”

Minnesota so beautiful in the summer

I swear this place gaslights me for 3 months

[mossy herald]

striver

[shy pecan]

bro playing with buttplugs

[keen belfry]

rusty too

[wintry solar]

rusty buttplugs

[daring oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-cat-chilling-flexing-cat-dancing-kitty-dancing-cat-gif-17432454222657908421

[dawn talon]

game sucks but nobody plays xrd around here

so if i want to play at locals my options are strive and gbvs

and if you see me on gbvs, please shoot me

[worldly shale]

Anyone got a gambling playlist?

[mellow mica]

10 halls

its good?

706

[trim hound]

no

[keen belfry]

hes learning the way

[frail veldt]

can always check on your adr uptime if youre wondering how well youre doing the rotation

anything below 90 you def have some rotational mistakes to clean up

below 80 youre making a LOT of mistakes

though I have noticed lately ive been playing with a buddy of mine whos trying to get good at outlaw and he will have the same adr as me but I still do like 15% more overall dps than him and I honestly cant figure out why

if anything hes slightly more geared than me

I figure its got to be like trickster stuff?

[vivid vessel]

because adr uptime is easy now

trickster 4p is so much cdr

way more than s2 or s1

[frail veldt]

yeah Im just wondering what exactly hes doing wrong thats losing so much damage

he has a lot less vanishes than I do

but we have similar adr presses

maybe hes not getting as many SC into vanish as I am?

or building poorly in subterfuge?

[cinder haven]

Check amount of coups

[buoyant cosmos]

Is he building with BF too much / not enough?

[keen belfry]

i thought i remember solo saying we get the same amount of coups now as last seaosn

[frail veldt]

yeah hes usually a liiiittle behind on coups but not that much

hes way behind on total subterfuge time though

he says he isnt overcapping vanish

[mellow mica]

[frail veldt]

but maybe he is

[buoyant cosmos]

Could he be breaking stealth w/ a trinket?

[cinder haven]

Is there a log?

[frail veldt]

ye leme see if I have some

I should

[mellow mica]

my?

[cinder haven]

Nah you should have a look at #outlaw-faq I think if you haven’t

[frail veldt]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/r6XpVFYMzqcJNT7A?fight=4&type=summary

just some rat keys we were doing together carrying friends

I can probably find better ones later if we play more together in higher stuff but double outlaw is hard to find groups for lol

[mellow mica]

K

[cinder haven]

You have higher cpm and higher uptime

[frail veldt]

I have like 0.5% more adr uptime

wait what is cpm

[vivid vessel]

you just press button better bro

apm

[cinder haven]

And more

[frail veldt]

aaaah

Im surprised that doesnt impact his adr though